WEBVTT - Transfer frenzy 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.240 Welcome to the Daily Telegraph and our podcast. I'm Michael 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.360 Carrianas and joined by the boys. I've got David Riccio Brenting. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.040 So good to be How are we fellas? 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:18.640 Are you ready? 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.320 It's super super good. When the Warburgers last night we 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.480 four took the soccer team. Now we had fifty cent 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.000 chicken wings nice. Yes, so you spent one hundred and 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:28.200 forty four chicken wings er. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:29.640 What did everyone else need? 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.519 Oh? He started already. That's a good Dave. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.400 Yeah, it's been busy, but it's good. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.880 It's regular league, the game that never sleeps. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.800 We won't touch on David better because by the time 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.360 this podcast goes there we might have a decision, so 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.800 we'll bypass that. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.480 But a young that you've been all over this week, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.920 Dave dan gag. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.040 Yeah, you had an offer from the Sydney Roosters, but 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:56.680 obvios to stay in Newcastle. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.720 I thought he was going to go. I really did 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.040 the an appetite from day to win a premiership before 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:06.360 he retires and he had to he had to weigh 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.640 that up on where the Roosters heading. Coupled with the 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.559 offer of a two year deal against a one year deal, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.760 of the Newcastle Knights with a mutual option for a 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.440 second season, which really doesn't give you much guarantee of 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.280 getting that second season. No guarantee, that's right if you're 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:30.520 a player. But ultimately Danes pretty settled up their young 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:35.600 family in schools and his wife is working up there also, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.160 so he just weighed up that family element and just 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.080 has decided to stay with the Knights. But as I said, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.080 I thought it was a surprise. The Roosters don't miss 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.520 too many guys. What does it mean for Newcastle? Reading 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.480 that he's not only turned down the Roosters but turned 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.840 down a two year guarantee to stay for Newcastles for 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.160 one year with no guarantee of the second season. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.760 It's pretty positive reflection on the coaching up there and 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.520 his belief in the squad. I think he's had a 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:05.520 really good year, Dane Goego. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.000 They've been a bit inconsistent Newcastle, but he's actually been 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.240 one of their better players this year. Shows no signs 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.800 of slowing down. How old is here to day thirty four? 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:14.960 That's the worry. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.320 Yeah, and I think that the twelve I think Newcastle 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.480 have played this well too to keep him for twelve 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.400 months guaranteed and then if he's playing like the way 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.119 he's playing now, it's a no brander that he rolls 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.520 on for a further twelve months. But they minimize that 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.560 risk that is associated with signing. You know he'll be 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.079 thirty five next year. A player of that agent, you 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:36.720 would have. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.560 Him in your Queensland team. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.040 We did our origin size are not up. I've got 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.640 him ahead of Valentine Holmes. Yeah, wouldn't. Valentine home has 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.720 been terrible this year and anyone that wants to try 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.720 and tell me that I agree has been playing well 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:50.840 has not watched anything. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:51.760 I don't disagree. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.519 I don't disagree Mick. But something happens when Valentine puts 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.440 a Queensland I agree. Same with don't go to the past. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.560 He's been in poor not as bad as U plays 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.040 for Queensland and scores tries. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.160 He's so far out. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.400 For the reason I asked is that's a reflection on 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:08.919 how well Dane Gago has been playing. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.280 Not an indictment. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.160 Last year was it one of the great raps on day? 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.800 And Gagoy is two things. One he rarely misses games. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.160 If you go through his career, he's playing twenty games 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.240 plus it will be a three out of gamer potentially 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.680 by the time. Yeah, if he sees in most seasons. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.800 The second point to that is, despite the fact that 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.959 he's thirty three turning thirty four, is he doesn't miss 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.880 training sessions. And that's what the Roosters loved about him, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.080 given the vacuum of outside backs that they're going to 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.840 suffer at the end of this year, is they dropped 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.839 Day and Gaga into the system and they know they're 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.800 going to get a twenty gamer who's going to train 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.840 every session and then teach their next crop of young 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.200 outside backs. How it would have worked. However, that's obviously 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.760 not going to happen. But yeah, I think I think 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.640 the Knights have got to win here, big win because 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.480 of you can't come across experience. It's rep players who's 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.080 playing at the level of what Dan is. You don't 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.960 come across them every every game. Every week. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.240 We'll go into ours and size probably a bit more 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.480 in depth next week. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.080 But who are your queen Land Sanders? 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.720 I think Vowl and the Hammer. I just think vells Billy. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.000 Billy is a law type of guy, right, I think he. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.640 Hasn't played Josh pupp Lee, Feliceafusi, Danga guy all that, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.839 he's you know, your team well, he's been mainstays in 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.120 the last couple of years that he sort of eaged 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:29.640 out the door. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.480 But those guys are a bit older. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.960 I don't think Bell's not coming towards the end of 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.560 their career where you've got to phase Val out. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.520 I mean Bells still yeah, yeah, yeah, he's still young enough. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.000 He's going to be there for a few years yet. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.000 His goalkicker too, which is important. And he's a goalkicker 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:50.080 because who's the other goalkeeper kicker daily Maybe Yell is 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.200 probably the best kicker. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:52.760 So he hasn't even kicked all this year. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.160 He hasn't done anything well this year. But I just 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.320 would be stunned if Billy left him out because he's 0:04:58.360 --> 0:04:58.800 Vale home. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:04:59.359 Who did you go? 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.960 I did vow and the hammer on the basis that, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.360 as I said, I've seen Val do this before. He's 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.039 had a bit of a flat season and then he 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.640 pulls the Queensland jump on and no doubt just play 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.320 so well. And the fact that they went away from 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.640 day last series is the decision that led me back 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.080 to Val. It feels like they may have. I wouldn't 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.400 say that they've closed the curtain on it and moved on, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.240 but they did move on last year. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.719 Do you need to move on in Origin? 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.040 Like? 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.080 Well, I can play Set and Comma on the centers. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:37.520 If they don't want to pick Vale there, pick another winger, but. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.640 You can play someone's been outstanding in the centers. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.000 I think from Brisbane, so I would have thought he's 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.159 here a done gago as well potentially as the senatece. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.840 I wonder if they even flat with our gone back 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.120 to the wing, considering how. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.480 Potentially shout me. Thanks, thanks for giving us some ideas, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.600 Billy helping us out. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:02.039 We're going good Blade, Flonga and others you're across this week, Dave, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.760 we'll just run through all your stories this week for 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:05.120 them all. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.279 But Blaze testing the open market, had an option. We 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.360 speak about options. He had an option. Yeah, he's a 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.680 way for next season. Is intimated to the Eels that 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.520 he won't to take that up. Where do we see 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:16.680 Blaze's future? 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.640 Yeah, look, nineteen years of age, obviously a really strong talent, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.480 local junior from the paramounter Reels, and the Eels want 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.800 to keep him. They have offered him a new deal 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.120 and he extended upgrade on twenty five, twenty six, and 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.960 twenty seven for Blaze. However, he did have this option 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.280 or trigger in his contract to trigger the twenty five season, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.719 of which he's decided not to trigger and take himself 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.359 to the open market. I don't think he's going to 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.360 be short of offers, guys, but it just it's a 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.120 little bit concerning if you're a paraffine when you see 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:58.680 such a young kid not just sticking strong and going 0:06:58.760 --> 0:06:59.239 with the club. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.960 Have they worked out his best position yet? Well, I 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.520 think he knows where he wants to I think he's 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.479 a six, right. He played, He's played a lot of six, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:07.559 played a bit of center. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:08.159 We can't do that. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.240 Hasn't played a lot of fullback, and they're playing in 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:11.240 a fullback this week. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.720 He can't do that a parent, right, and you'd assume 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.520 that he can't play in the centers next year. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.280 Yeah, there as well. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.920 I'man for you know, if you consider yourself. I think 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.080 they're trying to say wants to be a fullback, right suggested, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.520 hasn't played a lot of fullback. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:28.640 In his life. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.160 We're going to get a great look at it tomorrow, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:31.560 a great look at it. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.440 So I can sort of understand him looking around. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.200 Given they bought out the top, they blocked his path 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.000 with Dylan, they brought out at the top of him 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.880 with Zac Lomax. If you're a kid looking at that 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.040 situation and the club has promised to the world, you know, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.200 we see you as our future, then you go and 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.280 buy Zack Lomax at the top of him and you 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.480 block it, block his path with Dylan Brown. I can 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.280 understand the guy actually looking around and see what's out 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:54.800 there for him. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.080 If that's if his preferred positions are covered by other players. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.320 So the only concern for that readman, and I think 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.560 you're a spot on. The only concern is that clubs 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.440 wanting to buy Blaze actually haven't seen him in the 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.440 position that he wants to play. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:16.680 They would have because they would have seen not a 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.000 kid who has come from nowhere clubs. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.720 So let's just say he's blowing the lights out at 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.160 five eighths right for the Eels and he and he 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.240 still wants to move on, Well, there'd be there'd be 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.560 mass interest in him and he would be able to 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.000 demand big money. But because we haven't seen that in 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.760 the n r L, him testing the market. Yes, I 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.360 get that, but I don't know if he's going to 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.600 maybe get the excessive amounts of doors that he may 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.160 get had we know what position he actually belongs to. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.600 Paying for potential, let's just a hypothetical. You're the dragons, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.120 just the total hypothetical. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.120 Here, and you want him to be a six. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.360 Well, you're paying for upside, You're not for something that 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:02.960 you've seen in first grade. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.840 So that Galvin is a great example. We know that 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.680 now this guy's an inn role play. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:08.880 Yeah, yeah, good point. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:10.880 He can come. I'm sure he can come. I'm sure 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.880 that deals not off the table of Paramatta. I mean 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.679 if it doesn't, if it looks elsewhere, you can always 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.599 come back. I don't think it necessarily leave paramatter. I 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.960 don't think that's a fair to complete. I think he 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.000 just wants to see what's out there. His management do 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.280 see what's out there and weigh it all up and 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.959 then make an educated decision on where his future should they. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.240 Paramatta is obviously in the news and we'll be they 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:33.240 had to buy last week. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.040 So this is your favorite subject. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.840 It's not my favorite subject at all. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.560 But where do we see the stop it? 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.559 Where do we see the future for Brad as obviously 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.320 something Brad Arthur the Cave. There's some suggestions around recruitment 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:51.000 and retention and the like. Where things are around Paramat 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.480 at the moment, really well, I. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.920 Think there's pressure on, right, I didn't think that's pretty clear. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.800 You know, if they missed the eighth this year, I 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.920 think most people assume Brad will be gone. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:01.920 But by then it's going to be too late. I mean, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:02.640 I think a. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.160 Lot of people think, and you you're chief among them, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.240 who think Wayne Bennett's ready made. That's what a Paramatter's 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.640 ready made for Wayne Bennett to come in. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.720 And there so there's no well that's the problem. So 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:14.400 what do you do then? 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.040 I'm sure Paramatic could turn around at the end of 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.720 the year if they miss the eight and go, well, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.559 there's no one better than Brad. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.480 Decision, Well, that's that's likely to happen to me, they 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.559 can't do that. So where would you like them to 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.640 move to? Because can you rule Wayne Banner that's not happening. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:31.680 So where are they're going to move to? 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.480 They've got paramatter of two options in a way, right, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.800 they can go, We're going to blow up the joint. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.840 Now we'll get rid of Brad, blow up the joint, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.000 move a those senior players on and start the process fresh. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.120 Right, that's too hard. You can't give senior players, not 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:49.600 all of them. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.120 But it's not too hard because those bakes are still sellable. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.560 Yeah, like you know, move on your captain at the 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:58.120 end of the year. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.800 I'm just saying these are their options. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.800 Right, that's not that's not a realistic option. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.840 Then they go on, or they stick with the players 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.079 that they've got and then go all in the next 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.400 two years and try and fine tune that roster a 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:13.760 little bit. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.000 I don't buy the fact that. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.880 You're saying either way it's without Brad. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.560 Has to be without Bread if they don't make the age, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.600 I think to mix first point, I think there'd be 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.120 a natural attrition anyway from from Brad leaving. I think 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.920 they'd be there's so many loyal players to Brad after 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:29.520 at that club. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:30.839 Well maybe that's what they need. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.000 So therefore the club won't actually have to make decisions 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.040 on the players. The players will make decisions for themselves 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.640 that they don't want to play for the next coach. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.560 With The issue is they might leave, it's so late 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:41.840 to make a call that. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.440 Teams find space for someone like killing Garthursen's on the mark. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.320 I'm not going to cut lose Gutha. Are you serious. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.119 I'm just saying, if it doesn't. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:53.320 Matter who the coach is next year, you you're often 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.199 described as their best player, so they're going to You're 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.320 saying they should cut loose. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.560 To if Brad leaves, he won't leave. Where's he gonna 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:06.600 go signing now, I'm not saying he's unsignable. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:07.360 People would move. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.040 If he came to the market in November, people would 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.720 find space for him straight away. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:12.200 That's the case. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.760 Paramattal let him go if that, If that, if he's 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:16.920 that in demand. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.920 Because they just haven't that they've under achieved. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.000 So something that's your captain, something is wrong, best player. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.840 I'm not saying that's what I would do. I said 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.200 there's two options for them to go down. There's two 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.440 paths to go down. You blow it up completely and 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:30.040 you start again. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.160 Because I didn't think that's realistic with. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:33.760 Param matter, you're going to have to do that in 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:34.679 the next two years. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.080 As Dave said, there'll be a natural attrition, not with 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.280 the coach going I think, but with players. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.680 Correct coming to the end of the contract. You're going 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.080 to have to just roll them over. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.280 To regenerate that roster within two years, no doubt. Right. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.040 That's why I still think Wayne is the best for 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.240 him because they can go in with. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:58.920 I told you, Wayne, if they listened to me for 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.520 six months ago, that's what I would. I'm going to 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.600 give you a theory on why Wayne Bennett's no chance 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.720 of Paramatta give us, and that is that the paramount 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.400 of management structure are an all inclusive structure where they 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.360 have a recruitment retention committee and they have from chairman. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.640 Wouldn't want to sit That's right, they wouldn't. That's right. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:26.080 This is a chairman, CEO, head of every coach, every club. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.080 People smash this paramount of recruitment. But I'm not bagging that. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.080 You're missing my point. What I'm saying is is they 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.559 want the inclusivity with the head coach. They won't won't 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.880 give them that, So why would they appoint a coach 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.480 I won't give them that? It won't happen. I think 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.319 I think Wayne's got the stature in the game that 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.880 he can do what he wants for to and I 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:52.000 agree he does think that football club likes inclusivity, the issues. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.320 I just moved to slow, move too slow, that's issue. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.000 We'll talk about Paramatta's retention and recruitment. Which club doesn't 0:13:59.000 --> 0:13:59.480 have one of them? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.520 Look at Melbourne arguably the private point. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.719 Melbourne got a recruitment committee that's got Frank Pinissi, Paul Barney, one, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.280 Craig Bellamy. I think roricks on it. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.760 Anyone that learns that the coach is not having significant 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.000 say on the paramount Rosto is the looted. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.920 And they've said over and over again Brad makes the 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:20.800 ultimate decision. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.240 Does and anyone that thinks otherwise. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:24.840 I don't think I want to argue that Craig in 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.400 Melbourne actually has less power than Brad when it comes 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.520 to recruitment because Craig can get overruled. Look at the 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:36.520 Tavita Pangua situation right now. Interesting Craig's interested in other 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.720 people at the club aren't convinced. So that's I think Craig. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.720 He probably just goes okay, boys, let's move on to 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.560 someone else. I do you surprise you because it respects 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.040 the people who are in that meat, in that in 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.000 that room. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.000 Just on paramatter. And Brad Arthur, I think he will know. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.840 I think he'll make the He'll know when he's it's 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.360 time to go, you're going to walk. I just think 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.960 I just well, that's what Buzz alludes to the other 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.280 he knows that as soon as that it's at the 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.800 point of no return, he'll go. He's been eleven years, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.760 he knows, he knows the football club. He doesn't want 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:07.480 to sink the club. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.920 Still, don't give me an alternative. Coach can't throw one year? 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:13.600 Jason Ross. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.560 No, no, I think that that coach need that group 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.920 with the senior players. You're cleaning them out. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.520 With the senior players that they've got. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.400 I think they need an experienced case. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.400 So there's no one. Well, Brad's an experienced coach. Did 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.520 you know? Did you not read the back page of 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:38.960 the paper? 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.120 Jason Demetrio, I don't know if I'm with all respect 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.560 to j D, I don't know if I'm sacking I 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.280 don't know if I'm sacking Brad and picking up the 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.359 coach straight away. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.040 That probably I probably agree with. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.400 He's just giving he needs to be more time away, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.640 give a little bit and reinvent himself. Guys. I'm just 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:03.800 here to try and provide options and for the listeners 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.720 to try and to see who's out there, and you 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.120 guys have come up with duck eggs no defense. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.200 He came up with Jason Roles. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.120 I don't have an alternative? Thank you? 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:14.480 Who are the scene? 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:16.080 Is he doing again? 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:17.680 Remind everyone he's. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.840 Like coach of the coaches pathways down. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.160 In Melbourne about what about match? 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.280 But is a match that's a good one? 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.040 Isn't the replacement to. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.920 To Craig's going again? Please about match? That's a good one? 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.240 I like that one, Madge. What do you think of that? 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:31.600 Yeah? 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.040 Yeah, that's a good one. Actually good one. Match solved 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.440 the problem just like that. You're in, I'm in. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.440 Well you touched on JD Jason Demetrio, Dave you have 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:42.560 a chat with him yesterday? 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:43.520 Erstley, how's he? 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:49.880 How is he? It's look, you've just been asked from 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.800 a twenty four to seven job, right. It's amazing how 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.360 your world just stops after being a head coach. I mean, 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.320 these guys are twenty four to seven video phone calls, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.959 player managers, see players relationships with them, that's without coaching 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:15.560 relationship with and suddenly the phone just it's incredible, that's right. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.679 And I got to say he's in a pretty good 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.720 frame of mind. Hey, look he was really upbeat, more concerned. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.560 About the same outfit on. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.680 Watching on YouTube. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:34.000 But the way he carried himself that morning outstanding. Is 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.400 nothing that I've seen before from a coach that understood 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.119 why the media were there. He got the significance of 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.720 the story, wasn't surety, said a few things and then 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.560 said guys, enjoy your day, thank you, and I'll get 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.800 went home and coached his daughter's footy team. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.840 Yeah. Yeah, under four junior rugby league team. Interesting point 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.880 and this is the credit to the man. There were 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.960 people within the football club that suggested J Dre's there's 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.200 a media pack out the front, go around the back 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.760 way and we'll get a car, or we'll get you 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.200 to your car away from the cameras. And he said 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.600 to them, well, I've got nothing to hide. I'm going 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:17.639 I'll go out there and answer a few questions and respectful. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.320 It was quite funny because I was out there most 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.680 of the day and you saw there. I was behind 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:22.840 him coming from the back. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.000 That's because I was sitting there having coffee, just waiting, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.440 and suddenly this bloke walks past his It was J D. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.280 I went JD. Then I realized a better chase this 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.520 blake because of a camera's just surround him and he 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:38.240