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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christa

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Speaker 1: naming it. It's Thursday, April seventeen, twenty twenty five. Half

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Speaker 1: of the international students enrolled at the Queensland University of

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Speaker 1: Technology were phantoms. The Australian is revealing today the university's

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Speaker 1: annual report shows the students never turned up to class

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Speaker 1: and then dropped out. But it's keeping mum on where

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Speaker 1: they came from and where they went. That exclusive story

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Speaker 1: is live right now at the Australian dot com dot au.

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Speaker 1: Chinese exporters peddling their wares at the world's biggest trade

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Speaker 1: fair have found a unique way of getting around the

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Speaker 1: White House's astronomical tariffs. And it's not the only way

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Speaker 1: they're exacting their revenge on their biggest market. Today, our

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Speaker 1: North Asia correspondent Will Glasgow unpacks why the factory of

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Speaker 1: the world isn't worried about the trade war.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing a Chinese factory can't make. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 3: The Secret has many Chinese supplies, but they just.

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Speaker 1: Stop a minute.

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Speaker 4: Brooks Brother, a premium shirt bran from the States, actually

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Speaker 4: produce most of their products on China.

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Speaker 1: Does urble Lemon have OEO factories in China.

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Speaker 5: Of course, yes, but because it's only five to ten dollars.

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Speaker 1: For days, videos like these have flooded the TikTok feeds

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Speaker 1: of American consumers. Chinese manufacturers and suppliers stand in front

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Speaker 1: of vast workshops and stacked warehouses, and they claim to

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Speaker 1: produce luxury clothing and accessories for some of the world's

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Speaker 5: Our strongest suit is that we were the real OEM

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Speaker 5: factory for those luxury brands.

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Speaker 2: We know how to make them real, we know how

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Speaker 2: to make them good.

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Speaker 1: And they say they're prepared to cut the American public

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Speaker 1: a deal. Buy direct from me, and I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a good price.

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Speaker 2: Ten dollars and ten dollars, oh, ten dollars.

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Speaker 5: This need a were hot, If you'll need less contact

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Speaker 5: with me. If you want to source both with good

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Speaker 5: quality and low prices, ontape me.

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Speaker 1: The Americans are eating it up.

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Speaker 3: They probably should have took this app away when they

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Speaker 3: had the chance, because the Chinese manufacturers just hit them

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Speaker 3: folks with the Uno reverse.

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Speaker 4: The Chinese manufacturers woke up and chose total violence today

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Speaker 4: and I've never supported anything more in my life.

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Speaker 2: What are the American companies going to do? Because they

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Speaker 2: can't do.

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Speaker 1: Anything, and some of the American TikTok creators have seized

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to boost their own profiles.

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Speaker 4: Guys, if you like real Birkenstocks and you want them

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Speaker 4: for super cheap, one tenth the price of normal, follow me.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop where I get them.

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Speaker 4: And it was already just about to make a whole

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Speaker 4: series talking about designer clothes and what they actually cost,

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Speaker 4: So this would be great to amplify that.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know how this tariff thing is going

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Speaker 3: to play out, but the way that the Chinese manufacturers

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Speaker 3: are playing their hair absolutely well done, tends across the board.

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Speaker 1: The mockery of America by Chinese social and state media

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Speaker 1: is just the latest in the escalating trade war between

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Speaker 1: the United States and China. In a few moments, I

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Speaker 1: will sign a historic executive order instituting reciprocal tariffs on

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Speaker 6: Reciprocal that means they do it to us, and we

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Speaker 6: do it to them.

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Speaker 3: Beijing not backing down in the face of Washington's latest tariffs,

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Speaker 3: imposing an additional eighty four.

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Speaker 1: Percent levy on the US starting from tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump says he is open to talks with Chinese

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Speaker 7: President Shijing Ping after imposing an even higher tariff of

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Speaker 3: Word China is now ratcheting up its tariffs on American

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Speaker 1: Just in the last few moments, the BBC has confirmed

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Speaker 1: that US tariffs against China add up to one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five percent. And it's the manufacturers who are

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Speaker 1: exacting revenge or trying to survive, depending on who you ask.

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Speaker 6: A great channel is just a euphemistic way of saying

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Speaker 6: an illegal channel, right, This is to get a good

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Speaker 1: Will Glasgow is the Australian's North Asia correspondent. I caught

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Speaker 1: him on a break from the Canton Fair in Guangzhoo.

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Speaker 1: It's the largest trade fair of its kind on the

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Speaker 6: An example of that that I was told by a

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Speaker 2: Tied with South Korea, and so.

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Speaker 6: The workaround that he's got for his business going forward

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Speaker 6: is they're just looking for a partner in Vietnam. Now,

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Speaker 6: I thought that meant and asked him, you mean you're

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Speaker 6: going to set up a factory in Vietnam, and he said, no,

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Speaker 6: we're just going to get a partner and we'll send

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Speaker 6: I had heard that was going on. I've heard rumors

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Speaker 6: of that and seen reports of that. To have someone

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Speaker 6: tell me that so directly is pretty incredible. He said

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Speaker 6: that same arrangement is going on across the country with

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Speaker 6: a whole bunch of different Chinese factory makers as they

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Speaker 6: look for ways to work around Trump Administration's tariffs.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration has said it'll crack down on countries

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Speaker 1: that facilitate this passage of Chinese products into the US

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Speaker 1: via these grade channels as you've described them. Has it

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Speaker 1: said how it plans to do that.

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Speaker 6: The President at times has just complained about that rather

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Speaker 6: the most detail, and it's not much detail at all,

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Speaker 6: was from his trade advisor Piternovaro, who said, in essence,

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Speaker 6: if you do that, countries like Vietnam, we will punishue

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Speaker 6: with high tariffs. It's possible after the ninety days have

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Speaker 6: Vietnam gets higher tariffs.

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Speaker 2: That could happen.

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Speaker 6: That would mean the channel wouldn't exist anymore. Right, they

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Speaker 2: But if the model's not.

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Speaker 6: Actually moving a factory, it's just finding someone to receive

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Speaker 6: the good and then change the label and send it on. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: you could imagine the American administration just ending up in

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Speaker 6: a whack a mole exercise. So it does show the

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Speaker 6: real complexity for the Americans in enforcing this, and of

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Speaker 6: course it's hard to see how this could function with

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Speaker 6: because they'll be applying different tariffs based on the country

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Speaker 1: Officially, around fifteen percent of China's exports go to the

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Speaker 1: Top officials say they're not concerned if that evaporates, because

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Speaker 6: Look, privately it's definitely worried, but publicly it's presenting a confident,

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Speaker 2: Now the trade data shows that's lunatic. Right.

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Speaker 6: America is the biggest trade destination for Chinese goods. So yes,

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Speaker 6: they're getting on doing business with everybody and trying to grow.

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Speaker 2: Those are the markets.

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Speaker 6: But they can't just grow so much that one fifth

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Speaker 2: From America wouldn't hurt, right.

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Speaker 6: But by speaking to the factory owners themselves, this stuff matters,

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Speaker 6: and you wouldn't be taking that risk unless the market

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, it's Chinese workers who'll bear the

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Speaker 6: The research for analysts at Goldman Sachs estimate between ten

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Speaker 2: So that's a huge number.

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Speaker 6: Now, of course, China is an enormous country, but it's

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Speaker 6: not nothing, and unemployment here has already been ticking up because.

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Speaker 2: Of broader economics slowdown and.

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Speaker 6: Other problems in the property sector that.

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Speaker 6: So job losses increase because of trade troubles with China's

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Speaker 6: because it doesn't want to be forced into negotiating with America,

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Speaker 6: so it needs to make a deal. So it's trying

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Speaker 6: to show the opposite. And right now you see quite

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Speaker 6: a gap between the confidence of the Chinese government and

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Speaker 1: About coming up while Chinese vendors are confident Trump's tariffs

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Speaker 1: won't stick. On Monday, President Hi Jimping touchdown in Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: part of Beijing's efforts to promote China as a defender

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Speaker 6: This is one they've identified as a real superpower that

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Speaker 6: Chinese have. They dominate the production of heavy rare earth minerals.

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Speaker 6: These businesses are very environmentally damaging. The margins allows the

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Speaker 6: China's had it and no one else has. But there's

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Speaker 6: huge economic knock on effect if Beijing press go on that.

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Speaker 2: And it's a.

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Speaker 6: Real clear example of China trying to give itself leverage

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Speaker 6: in this ongoing trade tussle with America.

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Speaker 1: But getting the Trump administration back to the negotiating table

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Speaker 1: might be more difficult than the Chinese Communist Party anticipated.

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Caroline leave It read

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Speaker 5: Look, the President has made his position on China quite clear,

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Speaker 5: although I do have an additional statement that he just

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Speaker 5: shared with me in the Oval Office. The ball is

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Speaker 5: in China's court. China needs to make a deal with us.

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Speaker 5: We don't have to make a deal with them. There's

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Speaker 5: no difference between China and any other country, except they

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Speaker 5: are much larger. And China wants what we have. What

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Speaker 5: every country wants what we have the American consumer, or

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Speaker 5: to put in another way, they need our money.

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Speaker 1: Still, the Chinese manufacturers spooking their wares at the Canton

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Speaker 6: Work for these manufacturers. They've been in this business for decades,

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Speaker 6: and the supply chain down here in Guangdong and the

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Speaker 6: the world, it's just extraordinary that they're set up down here.

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Speaker 6: It's such a sophisticated, huge operation, but all run on

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Speaker 6: huge volume that they turn out. But in essence, it's

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Speaker 2: Smartphones and laptops.

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Speaker 6: While I don't see see a lot of this business

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Speaker 6: coming back to America, in fact, I see almost none

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Speaker 2: The margins make no sense.

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Speaker 6: If the president did keep a regime where tariffs and

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Speaker 6: to this, he got the tools, however, he would do

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Speaker 6: this to stop to crack down on those grade channels.

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Speaker 6: If he could crack down on that, then if he

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Speaker 6: can stick to it. With the passage of years, as

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Speaker 6: people look to replace factories, it seems inevitable that things

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Speaker 6: would move from China into other parts. But right now,

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Speaker 6: the great comfort the people in the guangzul trades world

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Speaker 6: see is that predictability and long term thinking is not

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Speaker 6: what they're seeing coming out of Trump's White House, and

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Speaker 6: they just don't see a smart, long term plan to

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Speaker 6: replace them. For now, he hasn't convinced that he's serious

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Speaker 6: enough about doing it, But ultimately that's his decision and

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Speaker 6: it's going to depend a lot on how American consumers behave.

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Speaker 1: Will Glasgow is The Australian's North Asia correspondent. You can

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Speaker 1: read all his reporting and analysis of China's trade moves

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Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot com dot au