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Speaker 8: our own Defense Minister Richard chuckles Morals speaking about his
Speaker 8: critical meeting with Donald Trump's new Defense secretary, Pete Hegseth.
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Speaker 2: News so read and James, there was by elections down
Speaker 2: in Victoria to tell us all about it.
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 6: Well, not good news for the left.
Speaker 5: The Jacinta Allen government isn't a bit of well dis array.
Speaker 5: They have had a massive swing against them in their heartland.
Speaker 5: The seat of Werribee is a seat that would expect
Speaker 5: to hold. They've had their primary vote go from forty
Speaker 5: five percent to twenty eight so it's still too close
Speaker 5: to call. They may still hold on to it, but
Speaker 5: it will be on a knife's edge. It's clear that
Speaker 5: the Victorian people are fed up.
Speaker 6: And then in the seat of Paran, the Greens look
Speaker 6: like they're going to have a loss there.
Speaker 5: It's still again too close to call, but the Liberals
Speaker 5: could pick up two seats out of two by elections.
Speaker 1: And how's this character the new leader doing.
Speaker 2: You're always very precise with your thoughts.
Speaker 6: Well, you would have to st judging by this these
Speaker 6: two by elections.
Speaker 5: Is doing pretty well, certainly better than he's predece procuto, So.
Speaker 6: Good on him, Brad Batton.
Speaker 5: We would like him to be stronger, clearer, but it's
Speaker 5: a good start.
Speaker 6: It's a solid start.
Speaker 5: I can pick up both these seats, particularly Werribee. It's
Speaker 5: going to be very demoralizing for the Labor government down there.
Speaker 5: Weerribee is a seat they would expect to hold on to.
Speaker 5: But as we've discussed on this program over and over again,
Speaker 5: that is the Liberals' future.
Speaker 6: Those outer suburbs.
Speaker 5: The regional areas where everyday people leave, middle class aspirational people,
Speaker 5: working class people. That's where the Libs need to focus
Speaker 5: at state and federal level, James.
Speaker 8: And crucially a lot of new migrants, who, of course
Speaker 8: the Liberals are going to have to if they want
Speaker 8: to have any chance of ongoing electoral success, bring into
Speaker 8: their fauld so they don't just keep getting brought in
Speaker 8: to the leading machine. It is interesting, though, I mean,
Speaker 8: what are the big issues here? Rid well, as far
Speaker 8: as I can read from New South Wales, there were crime,
Speaker 8: which has been really interestingly rebranded in a lot of
Speaker 8: the papers and on the left as community safety, because
Speaker 8: people don't even want to say the word crime because
Speaker 8: as soon as they think crime, they think you know,
Speaker 8: labor and the problems they have with that, and of
Speaker 8: course also cost of living and you know crime is
Speaker 8: more of a state issue. But it's that cost of
Speaker 8: living issue, which is where I don't know that we've
Speaker 8: quite got baseball bats out yet for Anthony Albinezi. But
Speaker 8: I would say that if you're Labor now, you're looking
Speaker 8: at no matter how fat your margin is from the
Speaker 8: last election, you know that seat now has to be
Speaker 8: treated as marginal.
Speaker 5: Federal Labor will be looking at what's happened in Werribee
Speaker 5: and would be terrified of the swing there the primary
Speaker 5: vote plummeting to twenty eight percent. It's not going to
Speaker 5: be I think the cost of living crisis at state
Speaker 5: level comes down to energy costs, because the energy policy
Speaker 5: in Victoria is insane, as it is around the country.
Speaker 5: But at state level, the Libs join Labor in changing
Speaker 5: the Victorian Constitution, which makes it so much harder now
Speaker 5: to reverse. Now, some of this stuff you can't reverse
Speaker 5: unless you're going to change the constitution again. But we're
Speaker 5: a state that sits on enormous reserves of gas, we've
Speaker 5: got coal, and yet we have just got exorbitant energy.
Speaker 2: Which is why it still baffles me that the Libs
Speaker 2: are wedded to net zero and to the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's completely insane because it's there for the
Speaker 2: taking this next election.
Speaker 1: So let's move on to the federal election, which.
Speaker 2: Will be taking place before at the end of May
Speaker 2: this year, so not long to go. We should be
Speaker 2: firing up. They're already running ads and so on. But
Speaker 2: the reality here is the argument seems to be, is
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton being too cautious in not following a kind
Speaker 2: of more Trumpish agenda or is he doing the correct
Speaker 2: thing by playing it slightly more cautiously. Personally, I believe
Speaker 2: he should be backing the Trump agenda one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He started to There was a good comments on transgenderism
Speaker 2: on the great interview he did with Peter Kredlin.
Speaker 1: The Other Knights, which I hope you will watch. But
Speaker 1: there are many.
Speaker 2: Areas, particularly this hate speech stuff, which I think is
Speaker 2: we we are heading one hundred and eighty degrees in
Speaker 2: the opposite direction to America on free speech. We're doing
Speaker 2: the e safety Karen typeer deep state stuff.
Speaker 1: We're doing.
Speaker 2: All of this clamping down on free speech is the
Speaker 2: exact opposite of what America is doing.
Speaker 1: James, Yeah, well that's exactly right.
Speaker 8: I mean, and just on this question, of you know,
Speaker 8: Peter Dutton and a Trump style agenda. Well, on some
Speaker 8: of these things he ticks the box. You've got a
Speaker 8: new credit on transgenderism, and you know, particularly the sports issue,
Speaker 8: which is of you know, absolutely crucial. I think that's
Speaker 8: something that everybody agrees on that you just simply can't
Speaker 8: have biological males competing with girls in sports. That's so,
Speaker 8: that's such basic common sense. The problem Peter Dutton has
Speaker 8: though is number one, he seems to be very afraid
Speaker 8: of being called trumpion, you know, so he's afraid of
Speaker 8: the herald of the age, the ABC going after him
Speaker 8: for this, which I think is you know, I think
Speaker 8: it's a mistake because what the issue is then is
Speaker 8: that he winds up trying to make everything about you know,
Speaker 8: cost of living, which it is and the economy is
Speaker 8: very important. But when you do that, you also do
Speaker 8: two things. Number One, you seed control of the rest
Speaker 8: of the debate to labor and the left. So you
Speaker 8: might have, you know, a fine cost of living argument,
Speaker 8: but then every other thing you wind up losing. And
Speaker 8: you live in a country where you don't have free speech,
Speaker 8: where you've got the you know, the boys and girls thing,
Speaker 8: and all of these.
Speaker 1: Sorts of things.
Speaker 8: But the other thing too is once the economy starts
Speaker 8: to improve at all, then suddenly labor takes that argument
Speaker 8: away from you and you don't have it because labor
Speaker 8: can always give you more stuff. And if you look
Speaker 8: at the scare campaigns that labor is running now, it's
Speaker 8: all about the livre going to take away your free stuff.
Speaker 8: So they have to find something more to compete on
Speaker 8: them this area.
Speaker 5: They can't just presume that a cost of living debate
Speaker 5: is going to get them over the line, because labor
Speaker 5: can write checks better than anybody that can give away things.
Speaker 5: You come up with a fantastic idea to cut costs
Speaker 5: or to improve people's living standards, labor can replicate and
Speaker 5: say that's a good idea, that's our policy now. So
Speaker 5: you need to have more that politics is about values.
Speaker 5: It's not just about economic conservatism, because every politician pretends
Speaker 5: they're an economic conservative. And if you are too gutless,
Speaker 5: if you're so terrified of the media putting a label
Speaker 5: on you that you're not going to prosecute arguments that
Speaker 5: are mainstream, that are largely supported, then get out of
Speaker 5: the game. This is a conviction.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: It shouldn't be in politics.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I've said all along, and we've said on
Speaker 2: the show since the Voice. Really all the Libs have
Speaker 2: to do is track down those sixty forty arguments and
Speaker 2: prosecute them, I'd say, And that's what Donald Trump is doing.
Speaker 1: He's taking all the eighty twenty arguments.
Speaker 2: In other words, where where the public are eighty percent
Speaker 2: behind the Trump agenda and the left are down in
Speaker 2: the twenty percent, and he's prosecuting.
Speaker 1: Every single one of them relentlessly. He's doing it.
Speaker 2: It's been the most exciting two weeks in world politics.
Speaker 2: It's being astonishing exactly. And we'll talk more about that,
Speaker 2: and we've got some great guests. But the point is
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's picking some of these things, and he's prosing
Speaker 2: the one flag thing fantastic, standing with just Into Price
Speaker 2: behind him, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Got to see a lot more of that.
Speaker 2: But then stepping back on things like free speech and
Speaker 2: climate change, big, big mistake, because that is the absolute
Speaker 2: heart of the Trump agenda. And if Peter Dutton and
Speaker 2: the Coalition get into government, which I firmly believe they will,
Speaker 2: they're going to be hamstrung by these stupid election commitments
Speaker 2: to stay with net zero when they should when the
Speaker 2: world is moving in the opposite direction.
Speaker 8: James Rowan, you know one if thing too when you
Speaker 8: pay close attention to what's going on in the US.
Speaker 8: They've got this massive multi trillion dollar debt, they say,
Speaker 8: and Scott Bessett, the new Treasury secretary, he says, part
Speaker 8: of the way they're going to get out of that
Speaker 8: debt is there going to grow the country out of
Speaker 8: the debt. They're going to grow the economy so much
Speaker 8: that that debt gets paid off. Now, what are we
Speaker 8: doing here in Australia. Peter Dutt needs to come up
Speaker 8: with some serious growth policies Number one. That has to
Speaker 8: start with energy. Australia always competed on cheap energy, but
Speaker 8: there has to be a whole suite of economic policies
Speaker 8: to get our productivity back up, because it's in the
Speaker 8: toilet right now, and we will fall further and further
Speaker 8: behind and we will wind up like a country like
Speaker 8: Germany or Spain or someplace you know that is just
Speaker 8: getting relatively poor and poorer to the rest of the
Speaker 8: world over time.
Speaker 2: And there's one sorry just on that, there is one
Speaker 2: single thing that will guarantee our future prosperity, and that
Speaker 2: is getting rid pulling out of Paris and getting rid
Speaker 2: of net Sara.
Speaker 1: That is it. That's the golden goods. It's there.
Speaker 2: It'll bring in mining investment, it'll be bringing Manu factoring investment.
Speaker 2: That is our future. And for the Libs to hand
Speaker 2: strong themselves by refusing to go down that path is
Speaker 2: absolute madness.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: And it also you have to worry about the fact
Speaker 5: that the US is going to be so vehemently pro business.
Speaker 6: This is another thing. Forget about being compared to Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: You wish Donald Trump is creating such a pro business environment,
Speaker 5: cutting regulations, cutting corporate tax rates, incentivizing corporations to manufacture
Speaker 5: in the US.
Speaker 6: We're competing with that now.
Speaker 5: So if you want to attract that beginning for something,
Speaker 5: got to actually.
Speaker 6: We are high cost, high regulation.
Speaker 5: Our wages bills are some of the highest in the world,
Speaker 5: our energy costs are some of the highest.
Speaker 1: Green tape, black tape.
Speaker 5: If you're a multinational, why would you invest in Australia
Speaker 5: where other countries are so much more welcome of business investments.
Speaker 8: And that's the thing I mean, look at the headlines
Speaker 8: from this this government, this labor government over the past
Speaker 8: even just say six months. You know you've got a
Speaker 8: gold mine in New South Wales that's been shut down
Speaker 8: on very spurious claims about indigenous rights. You've got this
Speaker 8: seven farming operation in Tasmania which may wind up being
Speaker 8: shut down at a stroke of a pen by a
Speaker 8: minister over this issue of the Margiean skate, which is
Speaker 8: some fish.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, read about it.
Speaker 8: But you know it's like anything you try and do
Speaker 8: productively in this country, Labor in the left tries to
Speaker 8: crush it one way or the other. And you know,
Speaker 8: until we stop that and start saying, hey, you know
Speaker 8: what's good for business is good for Australia, we're going
Speaker 8: to keep going backwards.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now we'll be chatting to Bridget McKenzie shortly about these
Speaker 2: hate speech laws and what that entails. I will also
Speaker 2: be chatting brilliantly to Melanie Phillips later in the show
Speaker 2: about this extraordinary Donald Trump Gaza idea. I'll be talking
Speaker 2: about that as well, the magaza, talking about gold gold
Speaker 2: post gaza exactly.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing all that.
Speaker 2: We'll also be talking we should talk on the horrific
Speaker 2: images of the Israeli male hostages released yesterday which we
Speaker 2: saw them. These poor three characters, they look like they've
Speaker 2: stepped out of Belson already. The UK Telegraph are saying
Speaker 2: this is this is war crimes, this is crimes against humanity.
Speaker 2: It's about time people recognize that Hamas are Nazis.
Speaker 1: That's there. They are no better. They are on the
Speaker 1: same moral plane.
Speaker 2: As the worst of the worst of the Nazis and
Speaker 2: need to be treated as such.
Speaker 1: These they all need to.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be talking about it later in the show.
Speaker 2: We'll also to talk to Melanie Phillips about that. But
Speaker 2: let's also just quickly mention as well, Rent and James
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has made a goose of himself for no
Speaker 2: news there that could be anyway.
Speaker 6: Why it's right really.
Speaker 2: But business leaders are finally finding some spine in this
Speaker 2: country and speaking up against Chris Bowen's insane policy and saying.
Speaker 1: You're bankrupting the country. Mate.
Speaker 2: Then and still Bowen and then mad ideologues in labor
Speaker 2: just dig their heels in more windmills, more transmission lines
Speaker 2: across your farmland, more windmills, destroying our beaches and beautiful oceans.
Speaker 2: Most all the panels, destroying our nicest, most beautiful land
Speaker 2: around the country. An absolute disaster. At least the business
Speaker 2: community James is speaking.
Speaker 1: Up of it.
Speaker 8: Well, they're speaking up, but I mean, where were they
Speaker 8: at the last election. There's part of me that experiences
Speaker 8: a little bit of I know it's shot in freud
Speaker 8: or what it is, but you know, much of the
Speaker 8: business community basically clapped labor in at the last election.
Speaker 8: They went along with the voice, They went along with
Speaker 8: all sorts of you know, labor nonsense. And you know
Speaker 8: part of it, I get it. They're just trying to
Speaker 8: keep money coming through the till. And for them, they've
Speaker 8: got to play ball with labor because labor has been
Speaker 8: very explicit from the start with them that you know,
Speaker 8: you have to back us in on policy or you
Speaker 8: don't get in to see your minister, and with their
Speaker 8: on disclosure agreements and everything else, trying to just tie
Speaker 8: up that dialogue. So it is good to see that
Speaker 8: some of them were finally coming out and breaking that silence.
Speaker 8: But it's very very late in the game, guys, and
Speaker 8: you know, this is another thing that libs need to
Speaker 8: get back their relationship with business.
Speaker 1: And we also need to talk about the deep state.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Mark Morano about that.
Speaker 2: But this disgraceful story is coming out of the UK
Speaker 2: where Donald Trump and Elon Musk have discovered the most
Speaker 2: appalling waste of taxpayers money. It's so sinister. Does it
Speaker 2: affect Australia? Has USAID money being used here? Nefariously? I
Speaker 2: would love to know. We'll be speaking to Mark Morano
Speaker 2: about that. Taking a short break, we'll come back and
Speaker 2: we'll chat. No, we were not taking a short break.
Speaker 2: We've got Bridget right here ready to go.
Speaker 1: Bridget, great to see you. How are you, Bridget.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put a commercial break between us and Bridget
Speaker 2: mackenzie ever, so Bridget, great to see you. Thanks for
Speaker 2: coming on this morning. I want to ask you about
Speaker 2: these hate bill laws. Understand the whole questions around national
Speaker 2: security and anti semitism, so keen to hear what you
Speaker 2: have to say on that. But the big question mark
Speaker 2: in my mind is at what price are we paying
Speaker 2: a high price for free speech in order to guarantee
Speaker 2: these protections?
Speaker 1: Can you please explain? Bridget?
Speaker 9: Yeah, great to be with you guys, as always on
Speaker 9: a Sunday morning, and you're outsider's army watching along at home. Well,
Speaker 9: once again you know Albow and his Labor team. The
Speaker 9: conflict internally for the Labor Party has been exposed on
Speaker 9: their inaction and their weakness on dealing with anti Semitism
Speaker 9: that we've seen rising on our streets and they've had
Speaker 9: to be shamed essentially into supporting amendments for us to
Speaker 9: their hate speech laws which would protect places of worship.
Speaker 9: I think we want to make sure that we've got
Speaker 9: mandatory minimum sentencing of up to six years for terror
Speaker 9: sacked here on shore. All the tials with the Greens
Speaker 9: against that measure, which I think is an important point
Speaker 9: to make, and it means essentially that there'll be no
Speaker 9: more hes Balah flags being waived in our capital cities
Speaker 9: in those protest marches, put Jahamas headbands away. They are
Speaker 9: absolutely going to be criminalized on the streets of Australia,
Speaker 9: as they should be. And it doesn't just send a
Speaker 9: good deterrent message to those who would seek to do
Speaker 9: harm and incite violence against fellow Australians, but it also
Speaker 9: I think sends a strong message to the Australian Jewish
Speaker 9: community that their fears that are being realized are being
Speaker 9: taken seriously and swiftly, and it was only Peter Dutton
Speaker 9: and the coalition that really.
Speaker 1: Have got us.
Speaker 9: You know, these laws through the Labor Party took two
Speaker 9: long and we saw the child Okay.
Speaker 8: I mean bridget though you know, all of these things
Speaker 8: that we're talking about here, the childcare center, all these
Speaker 8: things here, they were already against the law and the
Speaker 8: weakness of the alban easy response to what has happened
Speaker 8: ever since October seventh was to a not see the
Speaker 8: law enforced. And we saw this weirdness with his not
Speaker 8: knowing even that there was that caravan in Durall that
Speaker 8: had all the explosives in it, and you know his
Speaker 8: lack of leadership and his fecklessness in the days after
Speaker 8: those attacks. I'm wondering, though, why we need to do
Speaker 8: something like further limit speech broadly in this country which
Speaker 8: is already very limited, lowering the bar for what is
Speaker 8: now a criminal offense, taking away provisions around even intent.
Speaker 8: It seems to me that these laws are with all
Speaker 8: the best intention of the world of supporting the Jewish community,
Speaker 8: and God knows they deserve support right now, but that
Speaker 8: all of our free speech rights, what are left of
Speaker 8: them in Australia are getting further torched through this legislation.
Speaker 9: Well, James, I think what you've seen with this law
Speaker 9: is the changes to inciting violence and the use of
Speaker 9: force against other Australians. It's not if you're offended, these
Speaker 9: won't apply to you. If you emotionally feel you've been
Speaker 9: emotionally harmed, these laws won't be applying because I'm specifically.
Speaker 5: We have Christian schools warning that these laws will be
Speaker 5: used weaponized against religious teachings. We've got others warning about
Speaker 5: a chilling effect on free speech. We've already got laws
Speaker 5: in place against inciting violence against all sorts of things
Speaker 5: that are there to protect the community.
Speaker 6: But at what cost are we going.
Speaker 5: To give up our to free speech and to be
Speaker 5: able to have robust discussions, robust points.
Speaker 6: Of view that are not going to be criminalized.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing to have a disagreement, to
Speaker 5: even denounce a view, but to make it at a
Speaker 5: criminal offense and to set the bar so low, I
Speaker 5: just don't see how that's a liberal value.
Speaker 9: Well, Rita, I'm going to have to disagree with you
Speaker 9: and the Coalition senators and members that voted for this
Speaker 9: bill also disagree because our advice is that the Criminal
Speaker 9: Code has very specific and agreed definitions around the use
Speaker 9: of this word violence, and that is that it refers
Speaker 9: specifically to physical violence. Now, I don't think pulpits. I
Speaker 9: went to a Christian school. I don't think my Christian
Speaker 9: teachers ever would be inciting me to violence against others.
Speaker 9: We don't want to see Christian religious tenets of religious
Speaker 9: faiths being minimized in their ability to be able to
Speaker 9: be expressed. We want to be a religiously tolerant nation.
Speaker 9: We have a lot of different religions, but we don't
Speaker 9: want pulpits or places of worship being used as a
Speaker 9: way to incite violence against fellow Australians.
Speaker 1: That is and Bridgid would we hope to see.
Speaker 6: So that's the tension.
Speaker 1: You've argued that point.
Speaker 2: Well, you've argued that point well, but I'd just like
Speaker 2: to know would for example, the post October seventh, the
Speaker 2: sins we saw outside the Opera house, the sins we
Speaker 2: saw with Hama's flags being waved or preachers yelling out
Speaker 2: this is a day of elation where people have been
Speaker 2: murdered and raped and butchered. Does that fall under these
Speaker 2: new laws? And where we see those people prosecuting under
Speaker 2: these laws.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so there are minimum mandantrey sentencing amounts for actually
Speaker 9: displaying the symbols of registered terrorist organizations.
Speaker 1: So, as I said in my.
Speaker 9: Opening remarks, no more flying the you know, hes blah
Speaker 9: flag in celebration on our suburban streets. No more wearing
Speaker 9: your Hama's headbands at the announcement of you know, a
Speaker 9: cease fire. And we've seen those scenes here in Melbourne
Speaker 9: CBD's weekend after weekend since October the seventh, and the
Speaker 9: same in Sydney. And by allowing registered terrorist organizations symbols
Speaker 9: and paraphernalia to become a normalized way of expressing yourself
Speaker 9: on the streets here, you've terrorized Australian Jewish families from
Speaker 9: being able to move around freely in our own.
Speaker 1: Will.
Speaker 9: It's registered terrorist organizations. Guys, it's not not you like
Speaker 9: call Christian Church.
Speaker 8: Sure, but like you know, we see what is going
Speaker 8: on in the UK, and we see how we see
Speaker 8: how these sorts of laws have been used to the
Speaker 8: point now where if you tweet something that potentially causes
Speaker 8: somebody offense, you wind up with the cops that you door.
Speaker 8: People have gone to jail for things they've tweeted in
Speaker 8: the UK off of the back a very similar legislation. Now,
Speaker 8: one of the things this law does is introduced the
Speaker 8: word force or violence into you know, what you're talking
Speaker 8: about with a protected group. If somebody is having a
Speaker 8: migration debate and says I think some people should be
Speaker 8: deported potentially by force, that could even wind up being
Speaker 8: falling a foul of this legislation. I just don't know
Speaker 8: why we can't just have more free speech to this
Speaker 8: country rather than narrowing what we can say every time
Speaker 8: there's a problem.
Speaker 9: James, We're going to have to still love each other,
Speaker 9: but disagree on how this has rolled out. You know,
Speaker 9: I love our country. I believe in free speech. Let's
Speaker 9: be very clear here. It's not mosques that are being
Speaker 9: fire bombed. It is synagogues. And we need to make
Speaker 9: sure that Australian Jewish community Christian seeks Hindus. You know,
Speaker 9: Muslims can all practice their religion without fear of being
Speaker 9: subjected to an alleged terrorist attack. That's the insertion that
Speaker 9: we are seeking to minimize.
Speaker 1: I agree with you about the.
Speaker 9: Issues in the UK, and I think that is a
Speaker 9: telling warning, particularly to Western democracies, about how we proceed
Speaker 9: with caution on these laws. But the way these are recognized,
Speaker 9: the definitions already in the Criminal Code in Australia it
Speaker 9: pertains specifically to physical force or violence, and so I
Speaker 9: would see the law being interpreted can continually in that
Speaker 9: way going forward, just given this legislation.
Speaker 2: Shanks bridget Well, I think that's a great explanation, and
Speaker 2: I think you've narrowed it right down to the term
Speaker 2: violence and physical violence, physical force. That is where this
Speaker 2: debate is going to lie, hopefully, and let's hope that
Speaker 2: the proof of the pudding is that we don't see
Speaker 2: people arrested for criticizing transgenderism, or some activist judge using.
Speaker 1: It to attack the local Christian church or whoever. It
Speaker 1: might be.
Speaker 2: Great explanation, great debates and discussion. Thanks bridget and thanks
Speaker 2: so much for coming on, and we'll chat to you
Speaker 2: again soon. After the break, it's Rita's Reality Check and
Speaker 2: we've got Mark Morano.
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Speaker 5: girls and women of all ages, and they were there
Speaker 5: to witness the president's sign and executive order to protect
Speaker 5: women's sport from male bodies, from mediocre male athletes identifying
Speaker 5: as female and taking opportunities and hard earned places away
Speaker 5: from girls and women.
Speaker 6: It was one of those so called culture.
Speaker 5: War issues that the election was fought on, along with
Speaker 5: immigration and inflation.
Speaker 6: And let's be clear on this, this is.
Speaker 5: An issue where the overwhelming majority of the public stand
Speaker 5: with President Trump.
Speaker 7: In a few moments, I'll sign a historic executive order
Speaker 7: to ben men from competing in women's sports. It's about
Speaker 7: time my administration will not stand by and watch men
Speaker 7: beat and batter female athletes. And we're just not going
Speaker 7: to let it happen. And it's going to end, and
Speaker 7: it's ending right now, and nobody's going to be able
Speaker 7: to do a damn thing about it. Because when I speak,
Speaker 7: we speak with authority.
Speaker 5: Yes, surrounded by female athletes who have been hurt by
Speaker 5: the madness that saw biological men competing in their sport.
Speaker 5: The President delivered on an election promise. It was a
Speaker 5: triumph for equality, for decency, and for women's rights.
Speaker 7: Under the Trump administration, we will defend the proud tradition
Speaker 7: of female athletes, and we will not allow men to
Speaker 7: beat up, injure and cheat our women and our girls.
Speaker 7: From now on, women's sports will be only for women.
Speaker 5: And what made the moment all the more our fool
Speaker 5: was that young girls who were there in attendance, the
Speaker 5: young girls who will no longer have to fear having
Speaker 5: males steal their opportunities from scholarships to medals.
Speaker 7: You know, if you'd like to gather around me, I
Speaker 7: think I'm going to be okay.
Speaker 10: Come on, secret services worried about them.
Speaker 1: If we have to worry about them, we have big problems. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think we have a ten.
Speaker 11: We have a ten, God bless.
Speaker 5: The signing of this executive order was a massive win,
Speaker 5: and every feminist who actually cares about women's rights should
Speaker 5: have been celebrating the moment, But sadly, too many not
Speaker 5: only didn't celebrate, but they stand with the radical transactivists.
Speaker 5: The truth is the gap between male and female athletes
Speaker 5: is astonishing, and to pretend otherwise only disadvantages women. There's
Speaker 5: a good reason while we have male and female categories,
Speaker 5: and why there are no females identifying as men competing
Speaker 5: in elite men's sport. Malebodies are bigger, faster, stronger. Men
Speaker 5: cannot become women, no matter what concoction of drugs are
Speaker 5: consumed or what surgeries are performers. Self identification should never
Speaker 5: be allowed to trump biological reality. It may be abhorrent
Speaker 5: to the media an activist class, but the truth is
Speaker 5: that the protection of women's sport enjoys significantly more public.
Speaker 6: Support than access to late term abortion.
Speaker 5: What we saw this week was a triumph for women's rights.
Speaker 6: There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 5: And finally, isn't it nice to have a president who
Speaker 5: can be surrounded by young children and not feel your
Speaker 5: overwhelming need to sniff or stroke them and make them
Speaker 5: feel horribly uncomfortable. Care and contrast still makes me uncomfortable
Speaker 5: looking about. Who can forget old creepy Joe Biden, who
Speaker 5: on his first day in office decimated the rights of
Speaker 5: girls and women with an executive board out that damned
Speaker 5: him as a puppet of extremist gender and trans ideologues.
Speaker 5: President Trump has restored sanity, has restored respect for biological
Speaker 5: reality and for fairness for female sports. The adults, the
Speaker 5: sane adults, are back in charge.
Speaker 1: Great stuff for red Well.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is Climate Depot executive director Mark Morana. Mark,
Speaker 2: great to see you as always. You've been coming on
Speaker 2: this show with reader James and I in them for
Speaker 2: nearly eight years, talking about fighting the climate was and
Speaker 2: the madness and the insanity. And finally we have Donald
Speaker 2: Trump in the White House. Mark, what is the Trump
Speaker 2: effect on climate change? Are we seeing this mad cult
Speaker 2: finally in retreat?
Speaker 12: I sit here stunned, and I can tell you that
Speaker 12: in my lifetime, I've never seen a president more consequential,
Speaker 12: at least domestically, and what he's accomplished in less than
Speaker 12: three weeks, and I think he's on course. I mean
Speaker 12: to just obliberate anyone in the last obliterate anyone presidency
Speaker 12: in the last fifty years. He has literally driven a
Speaker 12: stake through the heart of the climate scam, particularly the
Speaker 12: international UN Global climate scam. And I saw it firsthand.
Speaker 12: I was in Baku, Azerbaijan. Yes, I traveled twenty three
Speaker 12: hours of NonStop travel to get Azerbaijan, which borders Russia
Speaker 12: and Iran, to this UN COP twenty nine Climate summit
Speaker 12: a week after Donald Trump was elected. I saw firsthand
Speaker 12: the infighting, the bickering. I saw the opening session where
Speaker 12: they said oil was a gift from God. I saw
Speaker 12: Al Gore, the man that countries withdraw and they all
Speaker 12: condemned Donald Trump. And there's now a whole movement to
Speaker 12: just cease the whole process.
Speaker 11: Argentina pulled its whole delegation. That was just the beginning.
Speaker 12: Since he's become president, he has wiped out the entire
Speaker 12: US domestic agenda, and he's done it in much smarter ways.
Speaker 12: And there's talk he's going to submit the UN Paris
Speaker 12: Agreement as a treaty to the United States Senate if
Speaker 12: it's rejected as a treaty, then the next president can't
Speaker 12: get the US back in. But we have Argentine, Poland,
Speaker 12: Eastern European countries like Hungary, you have the EU rejecting
Speaker 12: the Green Green Deal.
Speaker 11: All of this is the Trump effect.
Speaker 12: And I think this is going to This is not
Speaker 12: this is not reversible like twenty sixteen to twenty twenty presidency.
Speaker 12: This is going to be permanent because we've now had
Speaker 12: eight years of being lied to about climate and Trump
Speaker 12: is showing the world you don't have to follow the
Speaker 12: Soviet ideology of net zero ay Field.
Speaker 8: Chinas, well Mark Here in Australia, we've got both sides
Speaker 8: of politics saying they're going to stay in the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 8: What for a country like Australia, which has a lot
Speaker 8: of coal and a lot of gas and a lot
Speaker 8: of stuff under the ground. Is the point of staying
Speaker 8: in Paris? If the US is out, it doesn't apply
Speaker 8: to China and the rest of the world has moved on.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 12: It's a question of how long your voters and Australians
Speaker 12: are going to put up with this nonsensical virtue singling.
Speaker 12: The bottom line is this climate goals net zero have
Speaker 12: nothing to do with climate change. It's all about bureaucratic
Speaker 12: bean counters wanting to control every aspect of your life.
Speaker 12: If you actually cared, you actually believe that a climate crisis,
Speaker 12: whether you're in Australia the US, the last thing you'd
Speaker 12: want to do is, well, let's go with a social plan,
Speaker 12: net zero policy and a green new deal where we
Speaker 12: start banning appliances and regulating you know, the kind of
Speaker 12: cars you can drive and how much meat you can eat,
Speaker 12: which every European nation would It would be the opposite.
Speaker 12: You would want to unleash technology, innovation, wealth, prosperity, and
Speaker 12: you'd want to continue riding that ninety nine percent drop
Speaker 12: in climate related desk the last hundred years. The last
Speaker 12: thing you'd want to do is hinder yourself with central planning.
Speaker 11: Nightmare of that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 11: I hope Australia comes around. If Trump leads the way, and.
Speaker 12: We already have our Argentina talking about a Clexit, a
Speaker 12: climate exit for the UM Paris and the European countries
Speaker 12: aren't going to be making commitments or doubling down.
Speaker 11: They are.
Speaker 12: Once Russia invaded Ukraine and they had all their energy
Speaker 12: crisis in Europe, they started pulling back. Anyway, Australia will
Speaker 12: be alone in the world. It's only a matter of
Speaker 12: time before you come to your senses, isn't.
Speaker 1: It good question? I don't know.
Speaker 2: But if I'm.
Speaker 5: Having my diet cocaine in the afternoon, I'm obliged to
Speaker 5: use a disgusting paper straw to disintegrates.
Speaker 6: That is completely pointless.
Speaker 5: And this is where Trump is brilliant because he's not
Speaker 5: only doing the really consequential things like drill, baby drill,
Speaker 5: making sure America's energy independent, but reversing this band on
Speaker 5: plastic straws. He's saying, we're getting rid of paper straws.
Speaker 5: We're going to have plastic straws because it's.
Speaker 6: A stupid decision.
Speaker 5: And we talk about vacuous virtue signaling. We know where
Speaker 5: the plastic in the ocean comes from. It isn't real
Speaker 5: problem that pollution, but we're not dumping our rubbish in waterways.
Speaker 5: It's coming from mainly five Asian countries. Tell me about
Speaker 5: the response to this, because this affects everybody.
Speaker 6: You know, everyone uses straws.
Speaker 5: Hasn't been well received or are the left up in arms?
Speaker 1: Of it. I mean yes.
Speaker 12: I mean, first of all, you know, the greatest gift
Speaker 12: that they ever gave Donald Trump was trying to threaten
Speaker 12: him with jail at that moment, last number twenty twenty four,
Speaker 12: Donald Trump became transcendent politics because here they knew, we're
Speaker 12: going to put a politician in jail over nothing charges.
Speaker 11: The public knew it. That made a win.
Speaker 12: The same thing Donald Trump understands that transcending politics. When
Speaker 12: you lift a van on plastic straws in America, you've
Speaker 12: just said no more bull bleep and no more crap.
Speaker 12: It's not there anymore. This was the most absurd thing
Speaker 12: in California. They were threatening waiters with thousand dollars fines
Speaker 12: if they if they stuck up plastic straw to someone.
Speaker 12: You have grocery store, same thing with the plastic bags.
Speaker 12: You know, everything in the grocery store, from milk to
Speaker 12: bacon to meat to every product is packaged in plastic.
Speaker 12: But you can't have a bag on the way out.
Speaker 12: It's all designed to punish people the little paper straws.
Speaker 12: It turns out, and Donald Trump knew this that the
Speaker 12: paper straws have a bigger carbon footprint and they're less,
Speaker 12: they're not healthier for the planet or people. They have
Speaker 12: what they call forever chemicals in them. The plastics actually
Speaker 12: healthier and better for the planet. The plastic shows and
Speaker 12: actually work. So the reaction has been huge here that
Speaker 12: is working. The whole federal government is going to be
Speaker 12: lifted on this. All the states that have been fighting
Speaker 12: that you know for this. People realize this has all
Speaker 12: been virtue signaling and it's directly tied to the transgender ideology,
Speaker 12: the critical race theory, the whole woke agenda.
Speaker 11: They've just had it. In America.
Speaker 12: The NFL is removing and racism in the end zone
Speaker 12: for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 11: It's unbelievable what we're seeing.
Speaker 12: We're seeing comedians now make you know, off color, politically
Speaker 12: incorrect jokes again. The mainstream comedians America is like, this
Speaker 12: is a cultural shift that's bigger than eighteen seventy.
Speaker 1: And it'll change, it'll change the world. Mark. But I
Speaker 1: want to take your straw thing.
Speaker 2: That is the perfect metaphor for windmills, for solar.
Speaker 1: Panels, for all these things.
Speaker 2: They do far more damage, don't they. Mark You tell
Speaker 2: me you're the you're the author of the climate hoax films.
Speaker 2: Don't they things like windmills and solar panels, which we
Speaker 2: are now flooding this country with literally out in the
Speaker 2: ocean and on the land, don't they do an incredible
Speaker 2: amount of damage.
Speaker 11: Absolutely.
Speaker 12: In fact, in the United States marine mammals and particularly whales,
Speaker 12: we've had an unprecedented whale mortality since they started this
Speaker 12: huge construction off the coast and the East coast in
Speaker 12: the United States. They give them more whale takings. In
Speaker 12: other words, they're allowed to kill endangered species of whales.
Speaker 12: They're allowed to kill a number that's greater than the
Speaker 12: known amount of species in the wild. In other words,
Speaker 12: they're allowed to.
Speaker 11: Just completely obliberate it.
Speaker 12: And the thing that's amazing is that they don't produce energy.
Speaker 12: Solar wind combined to less than four percent of US
Speaker 12: total energy, and on the electrical side they're only less
Speaker 12: than fourteen percent, despite massive subsidies, massive mandates banning the competition.
Speaker 12: Takes half a million pounds of materials to build one Tesla.
Speaker 11: Size EV battery.
Speaker 12: When people talk about green energy, there's nothing green about
Speaker 12: digging up the earth. And yeah, green energy, solar wind
Speaker 12: and evs dig the earth, not in a Brady Bunch
Speaker 12: nineteen seventies groovy way, but in a literal way, China
Speaker 12: dominates most of the materials that they dig up.
Speaker 8: James and Mark, I want to ask you too, though,
Speaker 8: you know, we're all really excited about the agenda, what's
Speaker 8: been going on, the executive ard is all of that,
Speaker 8: But how fast is the legal pushback going to come back?
Speaker 8: Because you know the left is going to mount a
Speaker 8: big fight in the course the activist judges. You know,
Speaker 8: we saw an activist judge go after the Treasury just
Speaker 8: in the last few hours. What's going to happen there?
Speaker 8: And how stoppable is that? And just very quickly. Also,
Speaker 8: ken Americans and by extent of the world, get back
Speaker 8: their incandescent light bulbs because I am sick of these
Speaker 8: horrible LED things that make everybody look like they're dead,
Speaker 8: and don't want to buy incandescent lights back.
Speaker 12: Yes, I have not heard about the incandescent light bulb
Speaker 12: revival yet.
Speaker 11: That's an interesting one.
Speaker 12: They have LED bulbs which are much better than the
Speaker 12: original replacements for the incandescent. But I think I hopefully
Speaker 12: they'll lift all of those bands and those all come
Speaker 12: again through bureaucratic measures. Almost everything that we're talking about,
Speaker 12: the intentional collapse of energy, food and your restriction and
Speaker 12: movement with transportation have all come to unelected bureaucracies. In
Speaker 12: Europe and the United States, we never voted on gas
Speaker 12: powered car bands. It was just done through administrative agencies
Speaker 12: and unelected bureaucracies and executive orders.
Speaker 11: So this you're asked about, the pushback I am seeing.
Speaker 12: What I'm witnessing now is unprecedented. The entire liberal woke
Speaker 12: establishment has laid flat right now.
Speaker 11: Donald Trump is literally steamrolling them.
Speaker 1: It can't last.
Speaker 11: I tell Donald Trump.
Speaker 12: Especially Elon Munks, with the budget cuts, they have maybe
Speaker 12: a month or two months before they start rising from
Speaker 12: the ashes, and they're going to push back. And that's
Speaker 12: the first place they're going to do is more and
Speaker 12: more of these court cases, more lawsuits. But I think
Speaker 12: at that point, I think the cultural shift is so massive.
Speaker 12: We're going to look back on woke people the way
Speaker 12: the nineteen eighties we laughed about three Love hippies. They
Speaker 12: were just a punchline at that point. And I think
Speaker 12: when you see the Democrat Leadership Council that just had
Speaker 12: their DLC chairman Democrat Party, they literally had a meeting
Speaker 12: where they said, well, according to the bylaws, we have
Speaker 12: to have one gender of male, one female, and then
Speaker 12: we need a non binary map.
Speaker 11: They spend all this time about all the rules. They
Speaker 11: are completely clueless.
Speaker 12: They're still operating on a world that doesn't even exist
Speaker 12: in America anymore. So the good news is it might
Speaker 12: take him a while, but I still think within a
Speaker 12: few months the opposition will gear up and Donald Trump
Speaker 12: will start hitting resistance. But right now it's the Orange
Speaker 12: steamroller in America and that's unprecedent.
Speaker 5: Well, we're still waiting for some confirmations, including Cash Patel.
Speaker 5: He's Trump's peak to take over the FBI, and he
Speaker 5: has said that if he's in the Epstein list, everything
Speaker 5: associated with that case is going to be released. Tell
Speaker 5: me how nervous, Sam, Well, billionaires and elites in the
Speaker 5: US and elsewhere.
Speaker 11: I missed that question you said about Cash Bettel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, he's saying that he's going to release the
Speaker 5: Epstein least had nervous all of the elite.
Speaker 12: Well, there's a lot of theories here in Washington that
Speaker 12: you know. This is one of the reasons that there
Speaker 12: hasn't been a lot of this pushback is because of
Speaker 12: Trump declassifying documents and all these threats.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I can't answer that.
Speaker 12: I will tell you though, that RFK Junior, you want
Speaker 12: to talk about climate and where he is on public health.
Speaker 11: The this is where we should go with this.
Speaker 12: The COVID lockdowns globally where the greatest red pilling of
Speaker 12: people around the world, particularly in the United States.
Speaker 1: Robert F.
Speaker 11: Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 12: Went from running to jail climate deniers at the Hague
Speaker 12: with three square mails in the COT to now saying
Speaker 12: he won't even talk about climate change. It's an issue
Speaker 12: that's dead to him because it's been hijacked by the
Speaker 12: United Nations and World Economic Forum for thetalitarian control of society.
Speaker 12: That's the kind of guy we have coming into office now.
Speaker 12: These are just have been massive, and I just think
Speaker 12: liberals can't even handle it. It was funny to see all
Speaker 12: the liberals attacking people like RFK Junior when he was
Speaker 12: considered for a Biden's EPA. I'm sorry, Obama's EPA not
Speaker 12: that many years ago. The world has shifted dramatically here,
Speaker 12: particularly castin Trudeau on his way out. You can't discount
Speaker 12: that as well.
Speaker 1: And Mike Morano.
Speaker 2: Of course Time magazine refusing to acknowledge this new reality.
Speaker 1: And are they're telling us.
Speaker 2: That how climate change is affecting the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean some people are taking a long time to learne.
Speaker 2: Mike Morano, author there of the climate hoax and the movies.
Speaker 2: They're great to chat to you as always, Mark, great
Speaker 2: times to be chatting to you as well. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for speaking just from Washington. There we go after
Speaker 2: the break. Lots more coming up. I'll talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about.
Speaker 1: The Gaza property deal and Netsani Nity.
Speaker 2: You're chance side isn't thank you so much for watching
Speaker 2: with Rita, James and myself every Sunday morning. We certainly
Speaker 2: do appreciate you being there and us being with you.
Speaker 2: Lefty Luna, see there's so much of it.
Speaker 1: Wait for it.
Speaker 2: Lego Rita can now be anti LGBT.
Speaker 1: Go figure this.
Speaker 5: One very heteronormative your lego pieces because they kind of
Speaker 5: got the male and female pieces that.
Speaker 6: Go together, really perturbed. The Science Museum in London apparently.
Speaker 8: Ironic here the the Science Museum and they are I
Speaker 8: have to ask you this, what is going on in
Speaker 8: somebody's brain if they're SoC gender that everything they look
Speaker 8: at they go, you know, we see Lego, we think,
Speaker 8: oh that's likely a step on. You know, everybody else
Speaker 8: is lego. At least we see Lego, say oh my god,
Speaker 8: they're having sex. When you put them together, I mean
Speaker 8: like these people are absolutely mad.
Speaker 1: Exactly, they are lunatics.
Speaker 2: Shakespeare's works have now got woke warnings where they've had
Speaker 2: even more woke warnings slapped on.
Speaker 1: Top of them.
Speaker 2: People can't cope with Shakespeare, apparently, the poor little left
Speaker 2: is Rita.
Speaker 6: Well, of course they can't.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised they're still studying it because you know, we've
Speaker 5: got to decolonize the curriculum and make sure we only
Speaker 5: have I don't know, non binary types of literature that
Speaker 5: we can study. The kids these days, let's be honest,
Speaker 5: And it's not just the kid.
Speaker 1: Can you just see the kids these days?
Speaker 6: Kids these days. When I'm talking about kids, I'm talking all.
Speaker 5: The way into their thirties, perhaps beyond the hyper sensitivity,
Speaker 5: the fragility, but.
Speaker 2: I think the language, I think the younger ones coming through,
Speaker 2: I think they're wrong.
Speaker 1: I think there's a revolution.
Speaker 2: Because they've looked at these older millennials and gone, what
Speaker 2: a bunch of jokers. They are so the gags about
Speaker 2: what's this the big Ball story from the States?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's just jlassic, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: it's a bit edgy and so on. But like this
Speaker 8: is a story that one of the guys who was
Speaker 8: involved with the Doze thing, which I'll be talking about
Speaker 8: after the break up, about you know, cutting all the
Speaker 8: stuff and going to all the government spending at USA.
Speaker 8: You know, he went around with this nickname online and
Speaker 8: online moniker called big Balls and you know from the.
Speaker 1: Space he tweets.
Speaker 8: But you don't think it's like this whole thing now,
Speaker 8: this young generation has no time for the cancel culture
Speaker 8: of these.
Speaker 1: People who are older.
Speaker 8: You know, all the twenty somethings I know are much
Speaker 8: more robust than this with with the Shakespeare thing.
Speaker 2: Olds still all the times got PTSD from Penzil.
Speaker 5: No revolt because men, after being told or young boys
Speaker 5: being told for like twenty years their entire lives, that
Speaker 5: they're toxic and their masculinity is an issue and everything
Speaker 5: about them causes people to be uncomfortable. Yeah, there's been
Speaker 5: a revolt. Then you could argue, perhaps it's gone too far,
Speaker 5: but the girls haven't come along with that trend. So
Speaker 5: that in itself causes a few issues because you've got
Speaker 5: a whole generation of young women who have got every
Speaker 5: legal right, every opportunity that can do whatever they like,
Speaker 5: but they're also afflicted with this sense of victimhood which
Speaker 5: is pushed onto them by the education sector, by the
Speaker 5: popular culture, and it's unhealthy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a Michigan lawmaker who too, is protesting against
Speaker 2: Donald Trump being elected.
Speaker 8: James, She's taking Radical's pretty radical here, Michigan State Repisdent
Speaker 8: of Laurie Pohutsky. Well, she has made this announcement. I
Speaker 8: think we've got a clip of her talking about this.
Speaker 8: We don't we have a clip, but you can see
Speaker 8: the story. She went and got herself sterilized, took away
Speaker 8: her ability to have kids because she said she had
Speaker 8: a fear of losing access to abortion under the Trump administration.
Speaker 8: This is absolutely nuts, Now, Rita tell us, I mean,
Speaker 8: in Michigan is this even a problem.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure in Michigan you can get abortion right
Speaker 5: through to the third tri Missta, right up to pretty
Speaker 5: much birth from what I understand in Michigan.
Speaker 6: So to be doing this, but.
Speaker 5: Probably isn't PC to say this, but perhaps the likes
Speaker 5: of her.
Speaker 6: Should not be breeding.
Speaker 2: Move.
Speaker 6: We should be applauding and not criticized.
Speaker 2: There you go, and you're this is outsiders, so we're
Speaker 2: allowed to say things like that.
Speaker 1: That's mind you.
Speaker 2: With these new laws coming in, who knows what we're
Speaker 2: allowed to say. But let me just go back to
Speaker 2: a story from the Courier Mail that's being reported to
Speaker 2: all of us in Queensland where a teacher the Queensland
Speaker 2: the Coury Mail are reporting a Queensland teacher thinks she's
Speaker 2: a cat.
Speaker 1: Chance, Yeah, so this is crazy.
Speaker 8: At this school, big high school in Queensland, three thousand students,
Speaker 8: there is a teacher who asked to be called Miss Purr.
Speaker 1: She goes around growling.
Speaker 8: And hissing at students where they don't answer questions or
Speaker 8: misbehaving class. Apparently she licks the back of her paws
Speaker 8: of like she's groomed herself. Where's a cat's ear, headband
Speaker 8: and fluffy tail? And people are kind of wondering why
Speaker 8: is somebody like this having charge of their children? The
Speaker 8: parents are outraged. We don't have a statement yet from
Speaker 8: the Queen's.
Speaker 6: Land deproperc not using the sand. Peter, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't know that.
Speaker 2: What I suggested that the school installs a giant cat
Speaker 2: flap and they just push her out the cat flap
Speaker 2: when I mean, seriously, the left are completely insane. But
Speaker 2: it's good that they're so insane because more and more
Speaker 2: young people are going, hmmm, yes, I think they're insane.
Speaker 1: I think I'll vote the other way.
Speaker 2: Let's also, in fact, interestingly, you're getting people like local
Speaker 2: councils and that rising up and saying we've had enough
Speaker 2: of all this lefty lunacy stuff. There's a council here
Speaker 2: in Australia that's split down the middle debating the issue
Speaker 2: of Welcome to Countries and doing what this show has
Speaker 2: been urging, and I've been urging and saying, no, we're
Speaker 2: going to abolish this stuff because it's a waste of time,
Speaker 2: it's a waste of money. People breathing in smoke is
Speaker 2: just a ridiculous thing. It has it's virtue signaling on steroids.
Speaker 2: So there are some councils now saying no, we're not
Speaker 2: going to do this. Congratulations to those councils and James.
Speaker 2: We saw in the States in Wyoming, we saw a
Speaker 2: group of a town have voted to have no solar
Speaker 2: panels on their farm land.
Speaker 1: So people are literally responding.
Speaker 2: To the Trump effect and going right now, We're going
Speaker 2: to put an end to all this lefty lunacy stuff.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, I mean where are we going to start
Speaker 8: seeing this sort of stuff here in Australia. These projects
Speaker 8: are dividing communities across.
Speaker 1: The couple exactly. Now, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Melanie Phillips in a tick coming up and I'll speak
Speaker 2: about the Gaza real estate deal. Hello, you're watching Outsiders
Speaker 2: with Rita Raffa, Ritz carlt and Hanahi, James Amas, Hilton
Speaker 2: Morrow and myself Rowan Trump Gaza Towers.
Speaker 13: Dean.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the real estate deal of the century. But
Speaker 2: all jokes aside, and there have been plenty of those.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe what I was watching live earlier in
Speaker 2: the week. One of the most extraordinary and historic moments
Speaker 2: of our lives.
Speaker 7: Beautiful area with homes and safety and they can live
Speaker 7: out their lives in peace and harmony instead of having
Speaker 7: to go back and do it again. The US will
Speaker 7: take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a
Speaker 7: job with it to We'll own it and be responsible
Speaker 7: for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons.
Speaker 14: On the site. Level the site and get rid of
Speaker 14: the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development
Speaker 14: that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing.
Speaker 7: For the people of the area. Do a real job
Speaker 7: to something different.
Speaker 1: Just can't go back.
Speaker 7: If you go back, it's going to end up the
Speaker 7: same way it has for a one hundred year yep.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe my ears, nor by the look of him,
Speaker 2: could Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo, he could hardly
Speaker 2: keep the smile off his face, and who can blame him?
Speaker 2: The words cat and cream came to mind. But the
Speaker 2: key point Trump was making is that the past fifty
Speaker 2: years of thinking the whole Oslo Accords, two state solution,
Speaker 2: land for peace, YadA, YadA, the whole shebang is dead
Speaker 2: and buried. I might point out I have been saying
Speaker 2: the very same thing on this show since twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: and been constantly ridiculed for saying so. But the truth
Speaker 2: is it is only new thinking and bold new ideas
Speaker 2: that are the way forward.
Speaker 7: I think the potential and the Gaza strip is unbelievable,
Speaker 7: and I think the entire world. Representatives from all over
Speaker 7: the world will be there and they'll and they'll live there.
Speaker 7: Palaestinians also, Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there.
Speaker 7: But they've tried there, and they've tried it for decades
Speaker 7: and decades and decades.
Speaker 1: It's not going to work.
Speaker 7: It didn't work, it will never work. And you have
Speaker 7: to learn from history, history has, you know, just can't
Speaker 7: let it keep repeating itself.
Speaker 2: Clearly, what Donald Trump and visage is is some kind
Speaker 2: of international city built largely with Arab money and a
Speaker 2: playground for wealthy Arabs.
Speaker 1: As well as investors from Europe and elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Key to that will be security, and that security will,
Speaker 2: I imagine, end up including some kind of US military
Speaker 2: base in the Sinai or wherever. Trump the Statesman sees
Speaker 2: an opportunity to build on his Abraham Accords, and Trump
Speaker 2: the real estate mogul sees the opportunity to turn a
Speaker 2: demolition site into a glittering metropolis.
Speaker 7: I would like to see Jordan, I'd like to see
Speaker 7: Egypt take some look. The Gaza thing has not worked.
Speaker 7: It's never worked. And I feel very differently about Gaza
Speaker 7: than a lot of people. I think they should get
Speaker 7: a good, fresh, beautiful piece of land, and we get
Speaker 7: some people to put up the money to build it
Speaker 7: and make it nice, and make it habitable and enjoyable,
Speaker 7: and make it a war.
Speaker 6: Don't want to leave them say they don't.
Speaker 11: Want to leave.
Speaker 7: I don't know how they could want to stay. It's
Speaker 7: it's a demolition saying.
Speaker 1: Can it work?
Speaker 2: Well, of course it can work under US supervision. Both
Speaker 2: Germany and Japan were rebuilt into booming democracies, wealthy democracies from.
Speaker 1: The rubble of the Second World War.
Speaker 2: What is needed is visionary political leadership, backed by money
Speaker 2: and self interested parties determined to make it work. In
Speaker 2: terms of the vision, there are plenty of people already
Speaker 2: imagining how the place could look, and well, who's to
Speaker 2: say it won't happen. Certainly in Israel, there are plenty
Speaker 2: of people showing their support for the idea. Here's a
Speaker 2: photo of friends sent to me of some wag. That's
Speaker 2: that's people putting up a sign thanking Donald Trump. And
Speaker 2: here's a photo of someone who's altered the sign to
Speaker 2: Gaza to read United States. Even the naysayers were quick
Speaker 2: to come up with clever names.
Speaker 6: I've seen some clever names for it, but Magaza.
Speaker 1: Is my favorite Magaza indeed.
Speaker 2: But all jokes aside, the simple truth is that only America,
Speaker 2: and more importantly America under a leader like Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: has the clout to bang together the heads that need
Speaker 2: banging together to sort out the Middle East, and now
Speaker 2: is the time to do it. Trump has four years
Speaker 2: in front of.
Speaker 1: Him in an all likelihood.
Speaker 2: JD Vance has another four years minimum after that.
Speaker 1: That's a long.
Speaker 2: Time in which an awful lot can be achieved. But
Speaker 2: several things need to happen before Magaza or whatever it
Speaker 2: is to be called, comes into fruition.
Speaker 1: And here we can learn from history.
Speaker 2: Japan, as I said, in Germany, rose from the ashes
Speaker 2: only because they're pernicious. Political ideas were defeated. Yes military authority,
Speaker 2: namely General Dwight the Eisenhower was the law in Japan
Speaker 2: until nineteen fifty two. The evil regimes responsible for the
Speaker 2: Second World War mayhem were destroyed and the individuals responsible
Speaker 2: for implementing those ideologies were killed either by their own
Speaker 2: hand or, in the case of Adolf Eichlan, one of
Speaker 2: the key architects of the final solution. He was tried,
Speaker 2: found guilty, and sentenced to death. The simple reality is that,
Speaker 2: as I've been saying for months, the leaders of her
Speaker 2: Muss must be annihilated and all the terrorists responsible for
Speaker 2: seventh October must be either killed or captured and brought
Speaker 2: to justice. We need the equivalent of a Nuremberg Trials
Speaker 2: on full public display for the world to see the evil.
Speaker 2: Yesterday we saw the obscene display of the latest male
Speaker 2: hostages being released. Can you imagine this in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: looking like they'd stepped out of Belson in nineteen forty
Speaker 2: five in what has already been accurately described as a
Speaker 2: crime against humanity, Every rapist, every murderer, every torturer, every
Speaker 2: kidnapper must be either killed or caught, shamed, tried, and
Speaker 2: in my opinion, potentially faced the death penalty. Second, and again,
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years, the Iranian regime, which
Speaker 2: is the main sponsor of Mid East terror, must also
Speaker 2: be overthrown, or at the very least driven to a
Speaker 2: point of bankruptcy, powerlessness, and irrelevancy, at which point, hopefully
Speaker 2: the Uranian people will take matters into their own hands,
Speaker 2: which brings us to the Gazan people. This is where
Speaker 2: the left are so disingenuous. The pro Palestinian crowd have
Speaker 2: been screeching for years that Gaza is an open air
Speaker 2: prison and the people there are all prisoners.
Speaker 1: Now they are saying that they can never be asked
Speaker 1: to leave. Well, which is it?
Speaker 2: A sign of this idiocy is here in Australia, where
Speaker 2: on the one hand, our government is bringing in three
Speaker 2: thousand Gardens as immigrants, but on the other hand, Green
Speaker 2: Sanata Marine Feruki insists it is ethnic cleansing for Trump
Speaker 2: to ask Gardens to relocate.
Speaker 15: They must denounce and oppose the outrageous Trump comments today
Speaker 15: that the US should take over Raza.
Speaker 6: I mean this is.
Speaker 15: Nothing short off a call for ethnic cleansing.
Speaker 1: Again, which is a lefties.
Speaker 2: If Donald Trump asking or encouraging Gardzens to relocate somewhere
Speaker 2: else is so abhorrent to the left, why is the
Speaker 2: Australian government offering to let them migrate here? By the
Speaker 2: logic that says encouraging Ghazans to leave Gaza is ethnic cleansing,
Speaker 2: then surely all governments, including our own, are also guilty
Speaker 2: of ethnic cleansing, which is of course a nonsense. Equally
Speaker 2: idiotic is this tweet by the teals pin up girl
Speaker 2: alleg Respender, in which she says, quote, I utterly reject
Speaker 2: President Trump's plan. She then goes on to call for, Yes,
Speaker 2: you guessed the two state solution with Palestinian self determination.
Speaker 2: The stupidity and offensiveness of Allegraspender's comments, especially considering Allegraspender represents.
Speaker 1: Hopefully for not very much longer, one of.
Speaker 2: Australia's largest Jewish electorates, cannot be overstated. It was so
Speaker 2: called Palestinian self determination gifted to them by Israel in
Speaker 2: two thousand and five that resulted in the election of
Speaker 2: the Butchers, the savage, evil Butchers of Henna, and then
Speaker 2: directly to the evil, barbarity and atrocities of seven October.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if your response to self determination is to murder, rape,
Speaker 2: defile and torture the people who granted you that self determination,
Speaker 2: Guess what. You don't get a second bite at the cherry.
Speaker 1: It's over.
Speaker 2: You're gone now by all historical standards. By launching the
Speaker 2: assault against Israel and then having been soundly defeated, which
Speaker 2: they must be Hamas have lost any claims of sovereignty
Speaker 2: or political power over any part of the Gaza strip.
Speaker 1: Trump's plan makes sense.
Speaker 2: The Gazan people should be incentivized to disperse throughout neighboring
Speaker 2: Arab states while the reconstruction takes place, after which some
Speaker 2: Gazans will seek to return and others will not. According
Speaker 2: to the Palestinian writer by some aid quote, President Trump's
Speaker 2: proposals to allow Palestinians to leave Gaza offers a lifeline.
Speaker 2: It provides the opportunity to escape the suffocating control of
Speaker 2: Hamas and to find a place where they can rebuild
Speaker 2: their lives, where their children can have access to education,
Speaker 2: where they can work with dignity, and where their families
Speaker 2: can be safe and healthy. It's not just a chance
Speaker 2: for relocation, but a real opportunity for liberation from terror,
Speaker 2: for a future they deserve.
Speaker 1: End of quote.
Speaker 2: That's passimaid the Palestinian writer who we've had on this show.
Speaker 2: By the way, only those who have clearly renounced any
Speaker 2: affiliation with or even sympathy with her Maas and its
Speaker 2: objectives should ever be allowed to return to Gaza.
Speaker 1: Perhaps he's an idea.
Speaker 2: Let's ask Canberra's defat experts to do the vetting because
Speaker 2: they're really good at it.
Speaker 1: They've shown how easily it can be done Lefties.
Speaker 2: As for all the legal objections that have been raised,
Speaker 2: ultimately it all comes down to the United Nations. My
Speaker 2: hunch is that the big stick Trump has behind his
Speaker 2: back is the threat to withdraw US funding of the
Speaker 2: UN if they don't work to make his plan a success.
Speaker 2: He's already pulled out of the World Health Organization, and
Speaker 2: the day before the Guard's announcement, Trump pointedly withdrew the
Speaker 2: US from two United Nations bodies from the repellent ANOIR.
Speaker 2: We've talked about that many times and the United Nations HCR.
Speaker 2: I doubt it was a coincidence. Donald Trump will play
Speaker 2: hardball and the UN will eventually go along with him,
Speaker 2: or all those tinpot dictators and Third World grifters will
Speaker 2: suddenly find the Limos no longer at the front door
Speaker 2: and the Bubbly is no longer on ice.
Speaker 1: The Guards are Gold Coast. Bring it on, world.
Speaker 2: The Times of London columnist Melanie Phillips great friend of
Speaker 2: this show. Her new book is out, How to Save
Speaker 2: the West, which is fantastic Melanie joins us now. The
Speaker 2: book's called The Builder's Stone, How Jews and Christians built
Speaker 2: the West and why only they can save it. And
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say, Melanie joins us now from Melbourne, Melanie,
Speaker 2: you're in Australia.
Speaker 1: Always great to have you here in Australia. Australia, it's
Speaker 1: very very happy.
Speaker 2: To have you here and hopefully welcoming you, although I
Speaker 2: do know it's a certain Queensland cricket club objected to
Speaker 2: you speaking there, which just shows.
Speaker 1: What a disgrace they are.
Speaker 2: But Melanie, welcome to Australia and tell us right up
Speaker 2: front your thoughts on the Gaza deal?
Speaker 1: Can it work? Is it the way forward?
Speaker 16: I don't know whether mister Trump actually means precisely what
Speaker 16: he has said, or whether he's used it as a
Speaker 16: kind of leverage in the negotiations he's can trying to
Speaker 16: conduct with Saudi Arabia and other Arab states. If it
Speaker 16: is true that he means it, it's quite difficult to
Speaker 16: say see how in practice it can be put into practice.
Speaker 16: But I think that's not really the point. The point
Speaker 16: is that he's changed the conversation in the right kind
Speaker 16: of way. And in my view it needs to be
Speaker 16: changed still further that the idea that the Gazans need
Speaker 16: to be moved out is only part of the story.
Speaker 16: The idea that the Palestinians as such are a cause
Speaker 16: that is worthy is one that has to be scotched.
Speaker 16: It is a misapprehension based on a set of historical
Speaker 16: illusionary facts that are not facts at all, that has
Speaker 16: actually driven the Middle East into war for the last
Speaker 16: century and has knocked, in by view, knocked the entire
Speaker 16: Western liberal intelligentsia off the moral rails completely. There is
Speaker 16: no such thing as the Palestinian people. The idea of
Speaker 16: a Palestine state was never wanted by them. It was
Speaker 16: devised as part of the explicitly named strategy of stages
Speaker 16: in order to be a staging point in order to
Speaker 16: destroy Israel. It is based on Islamic Holy war to
Speaker 16: get rid of the Jews, to get rid of Israel
Speaker 16: as the Jewish homeland, as a precursor to destroying the
Speaker 16: West civilization and replacing it by Islamic rule. And consequently,
Speaker 16: the adoption of the Palestine cause has distorted everything. Basically,
Speaker 16: what's happened for the last one hundred years is that
Speaker 16: the West has rewarded Palestinian genocidal aggression against the State
Speaker 16: of Israel and against the Jewish people by promises that
Speaker 16: they will have a state of their own, by being told,
Speaker 16: by telling them in terms that they're entitled to a
Speaker 16: state of their own. Now, if you're saying that people
Speaker 16: who are bent on genocide are entitled to something, then
Speaker 16: you have lost the moral plot completely and you incentivize
Speaker 16: more war, more terror, resulting in what we all saw
Speaker 16: October the seventh, an act of unspeakable barbarity and sadism
Speaker 16: conducted against Jews as Jews, although others than Israeli Jews
Speaker 16: were involved as well.
Speaker 1: So this is an.
Speaker 16: Essential precursor, in my view, to saying to the Palestinians
Speaker 16: as a whole, you're over, you're finished. We don't support
Speaker 16: this cause. We identify now this cause as utterly bogus.
Speaker 16: You will get nothing from us in future. There is
Speaker 16: not going to be a state, You are not entitled
Speaker 16: to a state. You are not entitled to any more
Speaker 16: funding from US. Until you stop this campaign of terror
Speaker 16: and murder against Israel and the Jewish people. You will
Speaker 16: get no diplomatic recognition from US. Now, this would be
Speaker 16: an absolute revolution. It's elementary moral and political reality as
Speaker 16: far as I'm concerned. But the fact is, it is
Speaker 16: so thoroughly embedded in the whole Western mindset that there
Speaker 16: is a Palestinian people that has to be a Palestinian state,
Speaker 16: that's the root to peace, that it's almost impossible to
Speaker 16: ENVISI that happening. What Trump has done by moving the
Speaker 16: discourse in the way that he has ever Gaza, and
Speaker 16: we've seen the reaction to that, I would hope that's
Speaker 16: the precursor to some sanity finally emerging over this whole issue.
Speaker 5: What is the attitude in the Middle East to relationships
Speaker 5: with Israel being normalized without Palestinian statehood. Of course, for
Speaker 5: decades that was the view in the West that you
Speaker 5: could not normalize those relationships without the Palestinian issue being
Speaker 5: resolved and with two state solution. Is that attitude changed
Speaker 5: in the Middle East?
Speaker 16: The short answer is, I don't know. People talk at
Speaker 16: different levels to different audiences and say different things, and
Speaker 16: they don't necessarily mean what they say. We do know
Speaker 16: that Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states have a
Speaker 16: problem with what's called the Arabs Street tremendous amount of visceral,
Speaker 16: fundamental hatred of Israel and the Jews, which in past
Speaker 16: decades and centuries they have themselves unleash. They are responsible
Speaker 16: for this. Now we are led to believe, and I
Speaker 16: believe this is true, that among the Gulf states, put
Speaker 16: aside Katar for a moment. Katar is a rogue state
Speaker 16: which is identified with the Kamas, with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Speaker 16: But the other Gulf states and Saudi Arabia understand. We
Speaker 16: are led to believe, and I believe this is true,
Speaker 16: that their future and the future of their countries depends
Speaker 16: upon good relations with Israel, and they wish to normalize
Speaker 16: those relations. To a large extent they have been normalized
Speaker 16: in the last few years. Saudi Arabia has still to
Speaker 16: come on board. Now they are, as you say, still
Speaker 16: saying in public, you know, nothing can happen without a
Speaker 16: Palestine's state. They don't want a Palestine state. They hate
Speaker 16: the Palestinians, the Palestinian Arabs see the Arab world loads
Speaker 16: and detests the Palestinian Arabs. They don't want them anywhere
Speaker 16: near them. The only people in the world who support
Speaker 16: the Palestinian Arabs are the Western liberals. Unfortunately unfortunately for
Speaker 16: us that the Western liberals support them. So, you know,
Speaker 16: I don't believe that they want a Palestine state. The
Speaker 16: Saudis and the Gulf States would understand that a Palestine
Speaker 16: state would be a threat to themselves, so you know,
Speaker 16: they have to say this now. I think that they want,
Speaker 16: you know, they want to see the people of Gaza
Speaker 16: and the territories of what's called the West Bank Judere
Speaker 16: in Samaria. They want to see them treated decently. They
Speaker 16: don't want to see them, you know, abuse in any way.
Speaker 16: But on the other hand, I think that they would
Speaker 16: be open to a settlement of this whole issue which
Speaker 16: for short of a Palestine state, and would accommodate them
Speaker 16: in other ways.
Speaker 8: Well, I want to just get back. So you just
Speaker 8: said a moment ago about Western liberals and there being
Speaker 8: the ones who really support the Palatine and cause the most,
Speaker 8: and I mean we've seen it in London, We've seen
Speaker 8: it across the cities, you know here in Australia and
Speaker 8: the United States. You know, they actually don't just seem
Speaker 8: support the Palatinian cause, but also seem to have a
Speaker 8: fair bit of sympathy, if not encouragement for Hamas. Is
Speaker 8: this part of a kind of a suicidal urge on
Speaker 8: the part of the left and a sort of self
Speaker 8: hatred of the Western civilization that brought them the liberties
Speaker 8: that they enjoy. And is there a sort of a strange,
Speaker 8: kind of weird, perverse pleasure they take in sort of
Speaker 8: supporting people who would treat them just the same way
Speaker 8: as they treated these Hamas captives that we've seen released
Speaker 8: under the most horrific circumstances every week.
Speaker 16: Well, I think this is absolutely to the point, and
Speaker 16: is indeed the point of my book, which Rowan very
Speaker 16: kindly mentioned, The Build of Stone, which has published just
Speaker 16: in the middle of last month, that one can't understand
Speaker 16: the behavior of the Western liberals on this matter, and
Speaker 16: this one understands it in the context of the all
Speaker 16: out onslaught mounted by the Western liberal intelligency over many
Speaker 16: decades against the whole idea of Western civilization, which we're told,
Speaker 16: you know, was born in the original sins of colonialism
Speaker 16: and oppression and white privilege and all the rest of it.
Speaker 16: And that belief has led to an onslaught on all
Speaker 16: the institutions, the core institutions that keep the cultural show
Speaker 16: on the road, the education system, the traditional family, the
Speaker 16: very idea of the nation, and on its fundamental moral values.
Speaker 16: And one of the results of that onslaught has been
Speaker 16: the doctrine that says of cultural relativism, the doctrine that
Speaker 16: says that you cannot say that Western civilization is any
Speaker 16: better than any other, and therefore you cannot criticize any
Speaker 16: other civilization or any other culture, such as the Islamic world,
Speaker 16: such as the whole of the developing world, because if
Speaker 16: you do, as a Westerner, criticize it in any way
Speaker 16: and hold it responsible for its misdeeds, you are guilty
Speaker 16: of racism. And so the Palestinian Arabs have been perceived
Speaker 16: in this way to be the victims of colonial oppression
Speaker 16: by Israel. This is a complete lie. It is actually
Speaker 16: Arab colonialism against which Israel is fighting, the intention by
Speaker 16: the Palestinian Arabs to take over Israel, to exterminate the
Speaker 16: Jewish homeland and turn it into an Islamic and Islamic state.
Speaker 16: But the liberal, to the Western liberal mind, this is
Speaker 16: actually resistance. They are entitled to resist what the Western
Speaker 16: liberal perceives as colonial Israeli colonialism by a resistance movement
Speaker 16: of which the Hamas is one, and so it is
Speaker 16: a complete moral formation of the Western liberal mind based
Speaker 16: on what they're doing to their own countries. You know,
Speaker 16: this whole idea of victim culture in our own countries
Speaker 16: in Australia, in Britain, in which people who purport to
Speaker 16: be the members of a victim group, they define themselves
Speaker 16: as victims and they define everybody else as an oppressor.
Speaker 16: They are considered to be untouchable. When they do something wrong,
Speaker 16: they are considered to be untouchable. They can't be held
Speaker 16: responsible for doing the wrong thing because they are oppressed
Speaker 16: by the oppress or. And it is the oppress or
Speaker 16: who might be white people, might be men, might be
Speaker 16: might be heteronormative people or whatever, who are responsible and
Speaker 16: for this purpose, these purposes, and this is the really
Speaker 16: terrible kicker. As far as the Jewish communities are concerned,
Speaker 16: Jews are considered to be white oppressors. Now in Israel,
Speaker 16: most Jews are not white. Actually, believe it or not.
Speaker 16: Most Israelis are brown or black skin. Both Jews are
Speaker 16: brown or black skin, but they're considered to be white
Speaker 16: because they're considered to be oppressors. And so Jews are
Speaker 16: considered to be white oppressors, not just in Israel but
Speaker 16: in the West. Why because Jews, says the modern progressive
Speaker 16: ho ho liberal Jews control everything.
Speaker 1: They control the Acains, which.
Speaker 2: Is of course Melanie, which is of course the Banks,
Speaker 2: which takes us straight back to the original tropes of
Speaker 2: anti Semitism and of Hitler and the Nazis, which is
Speaker 2: why I was so disturbing to see those three poor
Speaker 2: men released today. Melanie Phillips, enjoy the rest of your
Speaker 2: trip in Australia.
Speaker 1: It's great to have you here.
Speaker 2: You're a great speaker and a great thinker, one of
Speaker 2: the great thinkers of the modern era. And I urge
Speaker 2: you outsiders viewers to buy Melanie's book The Builders Stone,
Speaker 2: How Jews and Christians built the West and why only
Speaker 2: they can save it. Coming up after the break, James's
Speaker 2: Donkey vote lots more slean the machine as well, then
Speaker 2: go away in it.
Speaker 8: Hello, you're watching out News with your host s Rohan Dean,
Speaker 8: Rita Pennahey, and of course I'm James Morrow. Well, there
Speaker 8: is so much going on in the US right now
Speaker 8: that it is very hard to pack all of the
Speaker 8: news into one editorial which is why the good news
Speaker 8: is that you can always watch me every Friday night
Speaker 8: at eight pm for a full hour of all things
Speaker 8: American on the US Report right here on this very network.
Speaker 8: But let's try to get across the latest developments in
Speaker 8: the last seventy two.
Speaker 1: Hours, shall we.
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, let's check in with that sad
Speaker 8: case known as yep Kamala Harris and gosh, when you
Speaker 8: watch this, you'll agree you haven't seen a bullet dodge
Speaker 8: like this since Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 17: As we think about the future, we must as a society,
Speaker 17: as a country, in fast in adaptation and resilience, and
Speaker 17: we have to understand these extreme weather occurrences are extreme,
Speaker 17: but they are increasingly less rare extreme.
Speaker 8: But gosh, we really did dodgemental all that that was
Speaker 8: almost the next president of the United States, the current president.
Speaker 1: But maybe with that.
Speaker 8: Sort of rhetoric, she can get a gig as I
Speaker 8: don't know what weather girl at her local CBS affiliate. Amazingly, though,
Speaker 8: and this is an indicator of just how far the
Speaker 8: Democrats have gone losing touch with being completely on board
Speaker 8: for reality.
Speaker 1: We'll get this.
Speaker 8: Some people in the Democratic Party think that yes, she
Speaker 8: is still Actually, Kamala Harris is still a contender to
Speaker 8: run again in twenty twenty eight, when she would presumably
Speaker 8: be up against JD.
Speaker 1: Vance. Should Kamala Harris run again, Yes, she wants to.
Speaker 1: You think she could win? I believe she can.
Speaker 8: I mean, if I didn't believe Kamala Harris could win, wouldn't.
Speaker 18: Worked as hard as I did to help her.
Speaker 1: Win this last time around.
Speaker 8: Oh gosh, I believe That's what the kids call cope Now.
Speaker 8: As always, though, our friends at the New York Post
Speaker 8: have a much firmer grip on reality, reporting on Kamala
Speaker 8: Harris's trip to the basketball with her husband, Slappy Doug Mhoff,
Speaker 8: with the headline quote out of work, Kamala Harris showed
Speaker 8: up to Lakers game and nobody even cared as she
Speaker 8: sat in the chief seats.
Speaker 1: You'll love to see it. Anyway.
Speaker 8: Let's get on to other matters, shall we. Well, Washington,
Speaker 8: DC is in absolute milkdown mode right now. As Donald
Speaker 8: Trump's DOGE, that's the Department of Government Efficiency Auditor in Chief.
Speaker 8: As the auditor in chief there, Elon Musk, sets to
Speaker 8: work finding and ending the massive waste and corruption of
Speaker 8: agencies like the US Agency for International Development, which you
Speaker 8: can see here becoming un burdened by what has been
Speaker 8: in the form of its sign and not frankly a
Speaker 8: moment too soon. Over the past week, we have seen
Speaker 8: report after report about the weird and crazy stuff USA
Speaker 8: has been funding, things like we'll get this a workshop
Speaker 8: for drag queens in Ecuador.
Speaker 1: And many sin.
Speaker 8: What or drag queens there, folks, your tax dollars at work.
Speaker 8: But much more of the work that USA has been
Speaker 8: doing it was quite sinister, such as vast sums of
Speaker 8: money given to religious outfits like Catholic charities, who have,
Speaker 8: with all of this money on offer, changed their mission
Speaker 8: from helping and feeding and clothing the poor in their
Speaker 8: own countries to importing the poor of the Third World
Speaker 8: to the United States of America as well the USA.
Speaker 8: It has become the new way for the US to
Speaker 8: meddle in the politics of other nations, often using things
Speaker 8: like LGBTQ ideology as affront. Now, a guy named Mike
Speaker 8: Benzi's a former State Department official, and he knows how
Speaker 8: these things work, has revealed. Project after projects such as
Speaker 8: one in Bangladesh. You're seeing the documents around it on
Speaker 8: your screen that sought to destabilize that country's politics with
Speaker 8: rap videos and you knew it. Transgender dance festivals long
Speaker 8: way from Operation Mongoose, I tell you what. But it's
Speaker 8: not just USA and other agencies like the Department of Education,
Speaker 8: which has done nothing but introduce ridiculous educational fads and
Speaker 8: diversity obsessions into America's classrooms while holding back students' performance
Speaker 8: are also on the Chopping Blog and not a moment
Speaker 8: to te soon. But of course this has horrified democrats
Speaker 8: like this group and I love this of congress folk
Speaker 8: led by Maxine Waters, who had an absolute milkdown for
Speaker 8: the ages when they weren't allowed into Department of Education headquarters.
Speaker 1: Check this out.
Speaker 11: Oh your face up?
Speaker 1: Look at him?
Speaker 6: Let him see you.
Speaker 11: This is him?
Speaker 19: Look at it?
Speaker 11: What's your name? Give me that idea again?
Speaker 1: So what I showed you?
Speaker 13: The idea?
Speaker 1: You do what I showed you?
Speaker 6: The you let me see the id again?
Speaker 20: No?
Speaker 12: Will someone else ask him for the I d will
Speaker 12: you ask him for it?
Speaker 11: He won't let me see it again?
Speaker 6: You dan?
Speaker 1: How good is that? Goin to tell you what?
Speaker 8: The look on that guy's face that was all of
Speaker 8: us for the entire woke Hera.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Donald Trump.
Speaker 8: Well he had this to say about his doged Hea,
Speaker 8: led by Elon Musk, are going to run a ruler
Speaker 8: across the entire bloated You ask government bureaucracy what we're doing.
Speaker 21: If you look at what has just taken place with
Speaker 21: respect to some of the investments that have been made
Speaker 21: on another agency that people have been talking about for
Speaker 21: years but nobody did anything about it, it's absolutely obscene, dangerous, bad,
Speaker 21: very costly. I mean, virtually every investment made is a conjob.
Speaker 21: There's nothing of value to anybody unless there's a kickback
Speaker 21: scheme going on.
Speaker 7: We're very proud of the job that this group of
Speaker 7: young people, generally young people, but very smart people they're doing.
Speaker 7: They're doing it at my insistence. It would be a
Speaker 7: lot easier not to do it.
Speaker 1: But we have to.
Speaker 7: Take some of these things apart to find the corruption.
Speaker 7: We found tremendous corruption.
Speaker 8: No wonder Washington is melting down faster than twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Scream girl.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 8: I loved this from the Washington Posts Ruth Marcus, who
Speaker 8: called Trump two point zero the most damaging first two
Speaker 8: weeks in presidential history, adding quote. Trump's second term is
Speaker 8: about curtailing government's power and reach. God forbid binga, Ruth,
Speaker 8: you got it in one, and that, my friends, is
Speaker 8: the whole point. This is what people vote voted for.
Speaker 8: Perhaps Ruth ought to listen instead to Jonathan Turley, the
Speaker 8: great legal expert who broke down this terror on the left.
Speaker 22: A bit further, you have people all over the Beltway
Speaker 22: breathing in paper bags right now because they the idea
Speaker 22: that you could bring in these people and they're going
Speaker 22: to sort of think outside the box.
Speaker 1: That's what Muscus known for.
Speaker 22: He's known for someone who rejects path dependents.
Speaker 1: He did that at Twitter.
Speaker 22: Musk is coming in here, and yeah, the terror alert
Speaker 22: in Washington is quite astonishing. But this idea that this
Speaker 22: is a danger to democracy is rather odd. You have
Speaker 22: a president you just ran on a pledge to shrink
Speaker 22: the government, to look for waste. He brought in someone
Speaker 22: from the outside for a reason, because past pledges by
Speaker 22: presidents have gone nowhere.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 8: The real terror in Washington is not so much of Musk,
Speaker 8: but that he will succeed and all their phony malooney
Speaker 8: jobs will be washed away like tears in the rain.
Speaker 1: Great stuff, James.
Speaker 2: Well, we talked early with Bridget McKenzie about free speech
Speaker 2: and our concerns around free speech. Well, an Australian woman
Speaker 2: she's been on the show before, has won one her
Speaker 2: legal battle against censorship and against the censorship commissioner, the
Speaker 2: E Safety Commissioner, Julie Enmanngrant over her posts Selene's posts
Speaker 2: exposing a queer club at a primary school in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Slim Baumgarten was supported by the Free Speech Union of
Speaker 2: Australia and she basically went to court against the E
Speaker 2: Safety Commissioner and the good news is Selein Baumgarten got
Speaker 2: a victory. Selene, welcome back to Outsider's great to see you.
Speaker 2: Now tell us so, this whole legal case seems to
Speaker 2: boil down to the fact that the E Safety Commissioner
Speaker 2: was trying to suppress your takedown, your tweets and posts
Speaker 2: and things, but wasn't really doing wasn't legally doing.
Speaker 1: So, So tell us about it. It's quite confusing, but
Speaker 1: it appears the E Safety Commissioner was not adhering to
Speaker 1: the letter of the law.
Speaker 23: Yeah, so firstly, thank you, thank you Roland, thanks guys
Speaker 23: for having me back.
Speaker 19: Yes, so the results of this.
Speaker 23: Case prove pretty much beyond the shadow of doubt that
Speaker 23: the e Safety Commissioner and her office are acting unlawfully.
Speaker 23: They rely on what they call informal notices to send
Speaker 23: to social media companies and they pretty much use their
Speaker 23: aura of authority to censor posts that don't meet the
Speaker 23: required standards in the Online Safety Act, which is the
Speaker 23: legislation that they claimed to use. We did take it
Speaker 23: to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal. However, the Commissioner tried to
Speaker 23: argue that there was no jurisdiction. They didn't have jurisdiction
Speaker 23: to review this case. So it got escalated to the
Speaker 23: Guidance Appeals Panel, which was a body that was set
Speaker 23: up to systematically rule out like state power, like things
Speaker 23: like robodebt, things like that. So we took it to, yeah,
Speaker 23: the Guidance Appeals Panel, and they ruled in our.
Speaker 19: Favor that there was no legal basis to take down
Speaker 19: the posts.
Speaker 23: And the thing is, but these informal notices is yeah,
Speaker 23: social media companies can't tell the difference between the informal
Speaker 23: ones and the former ones. And the former ones apparently
Speaker 23: they only send three or four per year. The rest
Speaker 23: are sent by junior staff members. It's mostly based on
Speaker 23: their opinions of what needs to be Well, let's look.
Speaker 6: At what caused this entire uproar.
Speaker 5: You posted about a queer club at a primary school.
Speaker 5: I would have thought this would be something that would
Speaker 5: be of great interest to people on Twitter or on
Speaker 5: x What was it about your posts that caused the
Speaker 5: safety commissioner to try to take it down?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 23: So the post was made in collaboration with one of
Speaker 23: the organizations that I'm a part of, and we aim
Speaker 23: to speak out about gender ideology being taught in schools
Speaker 23: and I firmly believe parents.
Speaker 19: Have the right to know what's going on in schools
Speaker 19: in Australia.
Speaker 23: The reason it was censored was because it was interpreted
Speaker 23: as cyberbullying against the teacher that I mentioned in the video,
Speaker 23: even though everything that was in the video was already
Speaker 23: public information, including her name, profile, absolutely everything. I was
Speaker 23: just reporting on what was already publicly available. But nevertheless,
Speaker 23: it lasted less than a week on Twitter before it
Speaker 23: was and because of that the old strides and effect,
Speaker 23: a lot of people ended up resharing the video.
Speaker 19: So it's been seeing well over a million times now.
Speaker 1: Je Well Selene.
Speaker 8: I also wanted to ask about, you know, in the
Speaker 8: context of what we've just seen, these new laws being
Speaker 8: passed against page speech, and you know, again the government says,
Speaker 8: we had somebody on from the government or from the
Speaker 8: opposition on earlier saying oh no, no, no, no, it's about
Speaker 8: a very limited thing, they'll never be abused and so on.
Speaker 8: But doesn't this just go and prove that every time
Speaker 8: you create the framework to start taking away rights, you
Speaker 8: will have unelected people who do not like freedom, who
Speaker 8: do not like free speech, and don't like you know,
Speaker 8: a particular agenda could be a left wing agenda, a
Speaker 8: right wing agenda being talked about. They'll use these powers
Speaker 8: against people, spot.
Speaker 19: On it, spot on. There's one part of this new
Speaker 19: legislation that I believe.
Speaker 23: It states if you have a difference in just political opinion,
Speaker 23: and it's all very subjective, it's all based on feelings.
Speaker 23: So if you make a post or speak out about
Speaker 23: something and someone interprets that as you being hateful, I
Speaker 23: believe you can cop seven years in jail, which is
Speaker 23: just absolutely ridiculous. It's extremely draconian. I'm very happy I
Speaker 23: won this case. Before it was like less than twenty
Speaker 23: four hours after I won this and then this new
Speaker 23: hate speech legislation got brought in.
Speaker 19: So yeah, as much of this as a win dark times, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that absolutely. It's a win and a great victory.
Speaker 2: And the Free Speech Union, Toby Young's Free Speech Union,
Speaker 2: which is set up here in Australia, do a fantastic
Speaker 2: job and they supported you and they got you there,
Speaker 2: helped get this result. And the reality is, Selene, that
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right that we don't know what is in
Speaker 2: these new hate speech laws or how.
Speaker 1: They will be used. You are a victim.
Speaker 2: You've had months and months of the mental stress and
Speaker 2: the agony of having to fight this whole thing. We
Speaker 2: had you here on outside as you know, six nine
Speaker 2: months ago, and the reality is that if the government
Speaker 2: can use these laws to oppress you, they will. And
Speaker 2: that's the lesson we've learned that the e Safety Commissioner
Speaker 2: cheated in effect by using the idea of the law
Speaker 2: or the suggestion, so not the legal letter.
Speaker 1: So she broke the spirit of law.
Speaker 2: I don't know whether she broke the legal letter of
Speaker 2: the law, but here she was telling you and telling
Speaker 2: social media posts to take things down. But you couldn't
Speaker 2: challenge it legally because it wasn't really an official notice,
Speaker 2: So there was trickery involved.
Speaker 1: And when you have governments using.
Speaker 2: Trickery to suppress free speech, we are You're right, Selene,
Speaker 2: in very.
Speaker 1: Very dark waters. What next for you? Selene?
Speaker 2: What's what effect has it had on you, the organization
Speaker 2: you work for, your personal life on Twitter, social media life.
Speaker 1: What's next?
Speaker 23: Well, it's been Yeah, as you said, it's been a
Speaker 23: bit of a stressful few months, just just trying to
Speaker 23: wrap my head around. I mean, I'm just an average
Speaker 23: go from Western Sydney. I don't know the legal mom
Speaker 23: like the legal mamo job over all this, but I've
Speaker 23: learnt a lot over the past couple of months. I'm
Speaker 23: very very grateful for all the support that's come my way.
Speaker 23: And as you can say, I've got a little one
Speaker 23: jew very very soon, so it'll be a great ghost
Speaker 23: story to tell her when she's older.
Speaker 19: But as for what's next, I do have some exciting us.
Speaker 23: The Free Speech Union have created a tool for all
Speaker 23: Australians to submit the freedom of information request to e
Speaker 23: Safety to find out if they've also been sensored. They
Speaker 23: are legally required to respond within twenty eight days. So
Speaker 23: the link to that is ende safety dot au slash sensor,
Speaker 23: And if anyone's interested in my particular case, then the
Speaker 23: link is end safety dot au slash Selene.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Selene Baumgarten.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on that great news, and what a wonderful mother
Speaker 2: your daughter is going to have.
Speaker 1: And I lessened to Peter Dutton and the Coalition.
Speaker 2: Selene Baumgarten is sort of person you need to be
Speaker 2: winning over, winning her over, a classic young person who's
Speaker 2: been thrown into the mire of the debate around free speech.
Speaker 2: And you politicians are not looking after people like Selene,
Speaker 2: and the Coalition should be on the side of people
Speaker 2: like Selene, not against a big, big lesson, Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: I hope you and your mates are listening to her.
Speaker 2: To Selene after the break, canber clown show lots more
Speaker 2: to coming up here on outside.
Speaker 1: This isn't roll up, roll up, step right this way.
Speaker 2: It's the wackiest, most expensive show on earth. You won't
Speaker 2: believe how much you are forced to pay. Even Ringmaster
Speaker 2: Albozo gets confused about what the economy is supposed to
Speaker 2: be doing. Doug wagsh down inflation and wages down talk
Speaker 2: about a Freudian slip of the tongue.
Speaker 1: Albo what a what a buffoon?
Speaker 2: Or was Albozo simply shock horror telling the truth. But
Speaker 2: Alboso wasn't the only Canberra clown riding his unicycle around
Speaker 2: the Burley Griffin big Top juggling facts and figures. This
Speaker 2: week here's Union hack Senator Tim Oolarou, sorry I mean
Speaker 2: Tim Yers, explaining why your energy bills keep going up
Speaker 2: and up and up.
Speaker 18: Well, what we've seen is a decade of policy in
Speaker 18: action and disinvestment in electricity I wore in Ukraine that's
Speaker 18: provided an enormous spike in energy prices. Those have had
Speaker 18: an impact on household prices, no question.
Speaker 1: No question.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Old War in Ukraine, what a hand the
Speaker 2: excuse that turned out to be for these climate cult comedians.
Speaker 1: What'll they blame when the war is over? I wonder?
Speaker 2: But tim Oolaroo was just the warm up at this
Speaker 2: week for Andrew Lee, Labour's number one La La Land
Speaker 2: economics buffoon.
Speaker 4: This under and sell us ended invoice. The wind doesn't
Speaker 4: ask you to pay.
Speaker 1: But it's not. The sun's not up all day. You
Speaker 1: need those other firming capacities.
Speaker 2: Actually Andrew the sun does and a very very big voice.
Speaker 2: Just look under the column marked Bowen's transmission lines. But
Speaker 2: unlike the planet, La La Lee was only just getting
Speaker 2: warmed up.
Speaker 4: Oh, what we're saying is a big investment in interconnection
Speaker 4: in batteries, in pump hydro, which is a form of
Speaker 4: wet battery. All of that sits around the renewable's ecosystem.
Speaker 1: Wet batteries.
Speaker 2: He sounds unpleasant if he's referring to snowy two point zero.
Speaker 2: I think wet dream might be a better allegory. Is
Speaker 2: Florence still floundering deep in the mountainside?
Speaker 1: Mud? I ask myself, this really is a clown show.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Australia's international reputation took a real nose dive this
Speaker 2: week with the relive revelations in London about celebrity footballer
Speaker 2: Sam Kurrs Night on the tiles.
Speaker 1: You should have spoken to the.
Speaker 2: Honestly, you are stupid and white, stupid and white. Sam's
Speaker 2: heritage is apparently Indian and white. Anyway, Something about that
Speaker 2: scene rang a bell. Oh hang on, isn't there another
Speaker 2: young lass in the Canbra clown show who enjoys late
Speaker 2: night in the city entertainment.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
Speaker 17: All I want to say is the black brothers there
Speaker 17: and anyone there won't fight.
Speaker 6: Well, anyone known that stands with the one.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 2: In Parliament like you, You've been a present love, Miss Patrick.
Speaker 2: And Ah, Yes, the night with Sam and Lydia out
Speaker 2: on the tiles would be a fun one. Indeed, Loopy
Speaker 2: Lydia herself spotted the resemblance.
Speaker 24: I stand with Sam Kerr with what Sam experienced that
Speaker 24: night is what so many black and brown women experience
Speaker 24: every single day.
Speaker 2: Every single day, Lydia, Really, every single day black and
Speaker 2: brown women across our wide brown land from Rockhampton to
Speaker 2: Ruti Hill hop into a taxi where some stupid white
Speaker 2: guy tries to kidnap them so that they have no
Speaker 2: choice other than to kick the window.
Speaker 1: Open and vomit all over the floor.
Speaker 2: No wonder it is so hard to find a cab
Speaker 2: these days. Meanwhile, the entire Canberra Circus, with only one
Speaker 2: or two notable exceptions, disgraced itself this week by passing
Speaker 2: the most idiotic anti free speech laws this country has
Speaker 2: ever known. And why precisely are we trashing hundreds of
Speaker 2: years of Western civilizations belief in free speech and the
Speaker 2: freedom to speak your mind even if it offends someone.
Speaker 2: Because Albozo the Clown doesn't understand the Internet, and he
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't understand democracy.
Speaker 25: People will say things on social media that they would
Speaker 25: never say to you face to face, and they engage
Speaker 25: in a way that seems to ramp up from zero
Speaker 25: to eleven straight away. We need to be able to
Speaker 25: have civil discourse.
Speaker 1: In this country.
Speaker 25: I don't want to see the sort of polarization that
Speaker 25: we see in some of our democracies around the world
Speaker 25: happen here.
Speaker 1: Polarization album is democracy. That's the point.
Speaker 2: What a disgrace and shame on the Liberal Party for
Speaker 2: supporting this disgusting subversion of free speech, the cornerstone of
Speaker 2: our democracy. And finally was Albert Einstein himself. He said
Speaker 2: the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same
Speaker 2: thing again and again. Here's Alboso revealing how completely out
Speaker 2: of touch with the modern world and the new political
Speaker 2: realities of Donald Trump and the Middle East that the
Speaker 2: Albanzy government truly is.
Speaker 1: It's not a dialogue.
Speaker 13: Well, if you let me answer, what I would say
Speaker 13: is an Australia's position is the same as it was
Speaker 13: this morning, as it was last year, and it was
Speaker 13: ten years ago, and it was under the Howard government AUSTRAI,
Speaker 13: the Australian government support and a bipartisan basis a two
Speaker 13: state solution in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: They have it. By definition.
Speaker 2: The alban Easy government is completely insane. You heard it
Speaker 2: from Albert Einstein himself. What would Fleetwood, Max Lindsey Buckingham
Speaker 2: say about that? Hyperboll extreme exaggeration has pronounced obally, has
Speaker 2: pronounced by Julia Gillard rita, Donald Trump and Prince Harry.
Speaker 1: That's got that's got hyperbowl written all over it.
Speaker 5: Well, good news for Prince Harry because President Trump has
Speaker 5: said he can relax. He's not going to have him deported.
Speaker 5: You know, there's this whole saga about did he lie
Speaker 5: on his visa application about his illicit drug use, which
Speaker 5: he then wrote about in his autobiography. But the reason
Speaker 5: Trump has given for not deporting him is, and I quote,
Speaker 5: he's got enough problems.
Speaker 6: With his wife. So that is just classic.
Speaker 5: Trump is the funniest president will ever have and Prince Harry.
Speaker 6: Will just be furious.
Speaker 5: One hand, he might be relieved James that he's not
Speaker 5: going to be deported.
Speaker 1: But highlighted the problem.
Speaker 8: Well, he went on, he said, she's terrible. She's terrible.
Speaker 8: That's the direct quote as you said. So that is
Speaker 8: Trump not doing hyper ball there, that's just speaking absolute truth.
Speaker 1: She's terrible. Tell us about this US. You were talking
Speaker 1: about us, about the USA.
Speaker 8: This this this horrendous aid group that's been you know,
Speaker 8: torching tens of billions of American taxpayer dollars on you know,
Speaker 8: woke projects and regime change and censuring the press and
Speaker 8: all sorts of frendous things. Well, you know, let's all
Speaker 8: get the violins out here, because here is one of
Speaker 8: the USA fired administrators having a big old sook to
Speaker 8: Rachel Meadow.
Speaker 20: Well, you can imagine when you suddenly in your inbox
Speaker 20: find a termination notice or leave of absence notice that
Speaker 20: you didn't expect to get on a flawed predicate that
Speaker 20: you're doing radical leftists in subordination.
Speaker 11: It's pretty jarring.
Speaker 6: And because there's so many lies and.
Speaker 11: Falsehood circulating and.
Speaker 20: So many claims that people are sort of not with
Speaker 20: the program, I think people are just completely dislocated.
Speaker 1: I think there's no stable ground wage to walk.
Speaker 8: Well, somebody think of the administrators who are putting out
Speaker 8: the money for the Ecuadorian drag workshops. Please, where's your
Speaker 8: humanity people?
Speaker 2: Well, we had the Sarah Hanson Young who never disappoints,
Speaker 2: telling us that Donald Trump is a threat to the world.
Speaker 1: Have to listen to this.
Speaker 23: The election of Donald Trump is a threat to Australia
Speaker 23: and the world.
Speaker 2: Oh, Sarah Hanson Young, bring out the violins first, Seriously, Sarah.
Speaker 6: Get with the program. It's Christmas every day. Did you
Speaker 6: not watch the program early?
Speaker 8: I think I think she's worried. She's worried that they're
Speaker 8: going to cut funding to sea patrol.
Speaker 1: And just a slight Actually we will play it next week, but.
Speaker 2: Lots of outsiders for you all to watch on Friday night.
Speaker 2: So you've got myself the world according to Rowan Dane
Speaker 2: kicks in Friday night at seven pm. Make sure you're there.
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for watching so far and making it
Speaker 2: the number one show on Friday night.
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. But it gets even better.
Speaker 2: You've then got James moraw You've got an hour of
Speaker 2: the US Report from James. Then it gets even better.
Speaker 2: You've then got Richer at nine o'clock. What more you've
Speaker 2: got left?
Speaker 6: He's losing it at nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Of course, Monday to Thursday you've got the ridd of penny.
Speaker 2: Of course you do, and we wouldn't miss that for
Speaker 2: one second. So lot's there, and we will see you
Speaker 2: then on Friday, and we'll see you next Sunday morning
Speaker 2: at nine am.
Speaker 1: See you