1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Rugby League from every angle. Watch 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: you by fort Everest joining me yet again, the great 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Gordon talents. It's been a journal is in buzz Rothfield 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: and Brett Reed. And we've got West Tiger's CEO Shane 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Richardson coming up after that win yesterday. Gorny, that'd be fun. 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: He's been around the game for a long time, so 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: looking forward to hearing what he's got. The same Panthers 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: are very successful at the Panthers and the Bunnies. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: First win in seven weeks. The West Tiger's desperately needed. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear rich O explain Lockland Galvin Tallon 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: de Silver out the door and I really want to 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: learn not just why they left, but why they wanted 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: to leave. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: What they didn't see at the West Tiger. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Interesting, we're asking all those questions. You want to stick 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: around us? 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: I'd love too much. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Should we go back a long way? 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: We've had our ups and down Rocky Road or Rocky Road. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, Rugby league journalism is not a popularity contest. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: It's not. 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: And when people go through rough spots, you've got to 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: report on it. 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: You said you set ups and downs, but mainly ups 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 1: or mainly downs us rich out when. 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: He gets on okay, he'll probably say. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Down the Raiders. They're on fire leading the competition. They 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: got two buys in here and they had a good 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: win on the weekend to just get two points clear 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: of the Melbourne Storm. Have overtaken the Bulldogs and you 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: had them finishing fourteen three this year. 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: You know what, I'm still three spots better off than 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: make carry on the spoon. 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 6: Covered well. They had them for the spoon fair income. 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: They've done amazing and the minor premiership premiership is basically 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: flavor complean. Now, I think they're going to be hard 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: to toss, real hard to toss. 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Will they go they buzz? 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm trying to work out if they can win 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: a comp because you look at those two front railers, 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Tarp and the big Parper. You look at the strength 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: they got on edges. They got a stack of edges. 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: They've got beef and strange that genius at vib eight. 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: That the half's a good player, and their back five 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: is so much speed and they're adventurous. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 6: Ok. 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: Weeks is business superstar. 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: He was superb thrond the three tries two of those 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: tries highlights reals for the rest of the now. You 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: said it, but I want to get you two in 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: this now. Can they win the competition? Yes? 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Okay, why why? Because they're young. They got two front 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: rowers they can knock down the front door. The halves 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: are playing with a lot of confidence, and they got speed, 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: they got X factor, they got hard working back rowers 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: and that's what you need. And they got confidence. I 57 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: think they've done enough through the year that when they 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: go into the big games they'd be confident to win them. 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 5: I think it's wide open. It's obviously wide open. I 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 5: think the team that beats Melbourne if if they can 61 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: win the comp and wouldn't surprise me if they're in 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: the Grand final of Melbourne. The way they're going at 63 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: the moment, they're just as Gordy said, They've just got 64 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 5: all the. 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 6: Components that you need. Can they win it? 66 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 67 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they can win it. 68 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 3: The big thing breath as youth and the fact they've 70 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: only had one buy. They're so young, they're so fit 71 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: and I use that word adventurous before. Ricky doesn't shackle anyone. 72 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: They play to their natural ability and they seem to 73 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: recover at that age quicker than some of the older 74 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: foot I don't know. 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: I think there are chance. 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: They're great. The watch very excited to watch and he 77 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the youth and they've got their recruitment right, which 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: is very difficult for Cambra for different reasons. But they've 79 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: nailed this, haven't they. Yes. 80 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: I was going to say, if you needed to print 81 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: in a newspaper the names of every knockback Ricky Stewart 82 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: has had in the last ten years, you'd need natee 83 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: page lift out. They have gone after so much big 84 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: name talent and outside of the Englishmen they've signed, they 85 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: have not been able to deliver in the national capital. However, 86 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: they changed their tactics and they've got what six or 87 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: seven ye said, I was under nine seven a couple. 88 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: Of years ago. 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, women, it's paid off from as I. England going 90 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: young has paid off of them in Spadesman Tamali Eathan Stranger, 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: two of the guys had picked from that younger that 92 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 5: new said under nineteen c M. K. A. Weeks have 93 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: got for Manly where he wasn't necessarily wanted and didn't 94 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 5: really have a spot there. So I've been very intelligent 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 5: with their with their recruiting. 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Well one players go there? Why they hesitant? Is it 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the weather? Is it? 98 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: Well, if you have a choice of living near the 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: beach at Crnala or Eastern Suburbs or Manly or you 100 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: know in a town where it's it's more it's cold there, 101 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: and it's it is and you know they have had 102 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: trouble for that very reason. Attracting good football playing like. 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 6: This they will help them. 104 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: If they can play at this and compete and be 105 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: in the finals every year. Players I want to go there. 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: They're going to get stronger too. They've got people like 107 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: Maddie Nicholson to come back. They'll get Hudson Young back 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: after the origin. 109 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 6: Those ref injury both. 110 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: I love to say that page lifting one day. Yeah, well, 111 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. There's bad a lot of knockbacks. 112 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: After another disappointing loss, Dragon's coach Shane Funning and Bristol 113 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: that questions about his half back, but he did have 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: support from Ricky Stewart. 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 7: Did they are going from the crowd towards Kyle spur 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 7: on the team at all? 117 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: Never heard it? 118 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: What would the crowd be? 119 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: Bill and call for just kick conversion? 120 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: Early in the game. 121 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: They were quite passionate this camera. 122 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: They do that. 123 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: That's good. That's going to happen everywhere. What is this 124 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: sort of I mean, the win last week and then 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: this week, but you came so close, but you should 126 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: have wanted. 127 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 7: I think it's a disgrace. How how you guys in 128 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 7: the Moodia are just absolutely bashing the kid. I've got 129 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 7: a sun plane and that's my biggest fear you people, 130 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 7: not him, but the media. I think it's a disgrace 131 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 7: what he's so called supporters and so called dragon supporters, 132 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 7: the social media, the bullshit that he has to listen 133 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 7: to and cop. I know he's old manal handler, but 134 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 7: he'd be torture for his mother and his sisters. 135 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Shane Funny in there fight up over that question about 136 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: your son, and then Ricky Stewart has left to the 137 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: defense and a strong defense of his mate Shae and 138 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: his son Kyle. What do we make of that? 139 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: I think it's been unfair blaming the media, because I 140 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: think all we've done in this show in particular is 141 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: debate the merits of whether Kyle should be in the 142 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 5: team necessary or how Kyle's playing. I think you know, 143 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: obviously over and over again. I don't think Kyle Flanning 144 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 5: is the issue at the Dragons, and the issue is 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: that they've got guys playing you said, whilst couple playing 146 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 5: really well and you've got to reward those guys. I mean, 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: that's debating form and players and whether they should be 148 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: in the team. That's not being critical beyond the bounds 149 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: of what we normally do. 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 151 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: Look, I'm a bit torn on this because I don't 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: think Kyle is an elite halfback and I don't think 153 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: the Dragons do. And I think his dad's on record 154 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: is saying that and Tim Watts for the new chief executive, 155 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: and I rate Tim Watts, but I had a couple 156 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: of conversations with him and you picked up the piece 157 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: from what he said on the podcast last week. Kyle 158 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: was never hired by Saint George la Warry to been 159 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: elite halfback. They saw him more originally as a forward 160 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 3: doing something to play Hawker five eight come off the bench. 161 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: There was a shortage there. Lochlannilius was dropped early in 162 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: the year. Glover was going okay. They haven't been able 163 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: to make it back into the side. That's a debate. 164 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: That's out there among their fans. It's got very nasty 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: on social media and look, I do feel for the family. 166 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: As Ricky said, it's not. 167 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Social media, not the actual media. 168 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 5: Well that's just what's something on social media's disgusting, broath 169 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: and no one should con done what's been said about 170 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: Kyle and his dad on social media because it's beyond 171 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: the pale. 172 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 6: But that's I think the media debate is valid. 173 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair point you made too. They didn't 174 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: buy him as a fourteen or nine and now he's 175 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: landing at seven. 176 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: And the problem Kyle's had and what's fired up the 177 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: debate is that week after week the new South Wales 178 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: Cup side with Lochlanilius and Jonah Glover have been winning 179 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: football again. 180 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: On the weekend and Jerry John's messages me to and 181 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: said now I'm both outd I think. 182 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: It's fair what people are saying the social media. It's 183 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: just because your dad coaches you, it doesn't mean that 184 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: it goes away. Just I menagine if Luke Brooks's dad 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: coached him. 186 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 6: I think some of the social media go. 187 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Brad Arthur something through heavy. Yeah, but we're not over 188 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: the top. No, No, the media yeah, but the Dragons 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: fans have always always been like that. They used to 190 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: carry coffins around the ground like and they'd been pretty 191 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: nasty for a long note like they have for like 192 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: a long time. 193 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: But who's the coffin from? It was one of the 194 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: officials one day. 195 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: But you know what the thing is with Kyle, the 196 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: poor kid, is he couldn't make it at the Dogs. 197 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: He couldn't make it at the Roosters. So there's history there. 198 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: So when you go there and you watch it and 199 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: every half back's targeted, and when your dad coaches you, 200 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: it's always going to be around because it was with 201 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: Jake Arthur, it was with Billy Walters, and now it 202 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: is with this kid. And the anyway it's going to 203 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: go away is if he changes clubs and makes it 204 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: without his dad, and that's it, And that's the end 205 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: of the story. 206 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: That's all fair comment. You know, it really is. 207 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: And it's a difficult one, as I've said before. Unless 208 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: you're John Lang and you've got Martin Lane, unless you're 209 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: I haven't clear and you've got Nathan and they automatic 210 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: selections every day of the week, it can get typicult. 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: It seems the beginning ugly at the Dragons or is 212 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it online attacks? Debellon hugging influencer alleged try celebration bullying 213 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: on the weekend with Denny Wider's article from the City 214 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Morning Herald. What was this all about? 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: Well, there's been some try celebrations after tries that some 216 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: of the players have done. 217 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 6: Basically, I think. 218 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 5: It's imitating a burger, which is apparently a term which 219 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: I didn't know about. 220 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 6: It's a term for Derek or someone Derek. 221 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: They call each other, You're a burger, You're an imbecile. 222 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: But the club said that this is affectually a term 223 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 5: of endement at the club, and you know they they've 224 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: obviously spoken the place about it. 225 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 6: They don't have an issue. 226 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: I mean an issue is getting caught a burger. 227 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 6: Has been suggested. 228 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: If what's been suggested the article was true, it's disgraceful. 229 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: B Can I just jump in. I spoke to the 230 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: manager of Damian Cook today. I didn't want a pest 231 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: a cookie. He checked it out with Cookie. You've seen 232 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Cookie speak about the funny and situation, he insists, and 233 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: he did one to Cookie. 234 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: It's an in house g up. Think your burger, that's 235 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 4: what it is. 236 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: I find it very hard to believe that. Its very 237 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: hard to believe. And you know, I think unless you've 238 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: got solid evidence of that, because this is this is 239 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: this is personal because you're talking about you're talking it's 240 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: all alleged, right, but you're talking about it is personal 241 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: because it's his teammates and suggesting that he's being quite 242 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: like visibly called a burger by his teammates on the 243 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: field while he's standing next to them, and you've got 244 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: no real evidence of that apart from here say that. 245 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: That's like, we talk about being critical of players and 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Kyle's no exception of that in terms of his performance, 247 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: of critiquing him and you being unhappy with his form 248 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: and that. But this is, this is a bit different. 249 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: This is personal, and this is what we don't like. 250 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: This is what probably Ricky Stewart was alluding to. You know, 251 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: is he going beyond criticism of performance? 252 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: You know, it's a horrific insinuation break the teammates would 253 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: do this sort of thing. So yeah, obviously Tim watsons. 254 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: But Tim Watson on the way and he repeated what 255 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 5: he said in the article, it's not that's not what 256 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: it is. So it's got to take my place, Bade. 257 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: The Bulldogs were in cruise control against the Broncos, leading 258 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: eighteen points to neil with twenty minutes on the clop, 259 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: but with their prize signing in the halves, things began 260 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: to unravel. This time the more conventional bomb on the last. 261 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: No one wants a bar of this coming through. 262 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: Can't quite get a point to it, picked up by 263 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: kick out. 264 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 6: Kick out is over maybe using he's running game. 265 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: They giving you the Caro pony, Caro Coponi one at beautiful. 266 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 4: Foot work, at you just saw a Carro copany. 267 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: You' see Welterster Reynolds deep for me. Man gets. 268 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: Still his hometown prism, get turned around, a short plan, 269 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: he's overlt wallet stars, I'm just prepping. 270 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh they're still cutting Man praying yes a chance and 271 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the two stars. 272 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 4: Praise count point deficit to tight the lay. This is 273 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: from a camel. 274 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 7: I have come from the clowns to stun the Caterbury Bulldogs. 275 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: That was a turning point thanks to actually In Martin 276 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Medical Hair Centers and the Dogs low the team up 277 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: to accommodate for the other. That's a be extreme, but 278 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: that well it is an Sorry it is an extreme. 279 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 4: Well you have to think about it. 280 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: Ree Marney's gone from an eighty minute player to a 281 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: fifty minute player, then the weekend he went back to 282 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: an eighty minute player. Section's gone from half to hooker. 283 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Bali Haywood's gone from starting to the bench. Matt Burton's 284 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: gone from five to eight to center. Montoy has changed 285 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: from one wing to the other wing. 286 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 5: But that was Origin because our missing players for Origin. 287 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: That's that's not Gelvin related. That's Origin related, isn't it. 288 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: Well Burton played centers because Crichton wasn't available. 289 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because because I was started to fit Galvin and 290 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: you know as well as I. 291 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Do Burton, you know, Yeah, but they moved in with 292 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: the centers and he's a five eight, yeahuse of origin. 293 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: You don't think they're putting him there to see I looked. 294 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 295 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 5: No, really, well, we know he's a good we've seen 296 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: him playing since before, very good. 297 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Five eight and greatful. So you've moved him to a 298 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: comrade Galvin. 299 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: And to be back there next week. 300 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: We will be Now where will this week? 301 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. Both. That's what the problem. 302 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Gathered. To play Good on the weekend would have been 303 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: back to five definitely. 304 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 6: Well, I believe you would have. 305 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you believe you would have. 306 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: Well, you believe you believe you wouldn't have. 307 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I believe they're testing it and if that had worked, 308 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a fair chance. Galvin stays in the halves and 309 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Burton quite and doesn't play. 310 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: We chuck him out. 311 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: Er. It's all clear, it's clear. 312 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: That's do you. 313 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: Know that class? 314 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 6: That part I think is very clear is yes. Yes. 315 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: What else is clear? 316 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 6: That's all we've discussed so far, isn't it. 317 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: We don't know. 318 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: The other part a clear. I don't know whether it 319 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 5: be in the team next week. I don't know both. 320 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 5: Steve Crichton will be back in the team and. 321 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: He will Confusion Canterbury right now about the future long 322 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: term of each of their players. 323 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: We've got the behalf. We've got alright. 324 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 6: Hold on confusion. We know what they're doing, what the 325 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: money doing, we know that. 326 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: Just hold on real They were leading the competition up 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: until a week ago. Then they dismantled the football side. 328 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: They give the permission for the hooker to go and 329 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: they don't offer sex and anything. These two boys, two 330 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: of the four in the spine. What are you looking 331 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: like that because the top of the competitions has. 332 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: Been a contract all year. 333 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: They've made off too and all year was suddenly initie 334 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: in the last four weeks and I'll tell what else past. 335 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: You know what they've done the last nine weeks. Let's 336 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: go back nine weeks because Lochlan Gevin wasn't there nine 337 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: weeks ago. They've got spank boy Broncos. 338 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: Spank boy. 339 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 5: The Dolphins lost. They've won four four of their last nine, 340 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: four of the last. 341 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: The Broncos was a one off loss. Right that a 342 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: bad note Dolphins months ago and then and the Dolphins 343 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: was exactly bad origin players and it was pissing the week. 344 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: It was a sim You can't honestly, like I've said, 345 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I said that throughout the week, said on the weekend, 346 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: I love the Dogs. I want them to win the camp. 347 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: I want to win every week. But if you're telling me, 348 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: if you can sit here and keep a straight face 349 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: and tell me that there's been no disruption or interruption 350 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: to that team with Galvin going there, then can. 351 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: I ask you two weeks ago that played Penrith, what 352 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: did we say that'd be that was a Grand Final worthy? 353 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 354 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was okay, well Galvin was there then, ye, then, 355 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 6: so that. 356 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: It came on when the Bulldogs are winning exactly. 357 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 6: But the why what happened They didn't have an origin player, 358 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 6: so that to shove this. 359 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: By the way at all, not at all. 360 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: At the weekend they had to make changes because players 361 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: were out, so they were always going to make changes 362 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 5: at the weekend. There was always going to be a reshuffle. 363 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Right, you had to move Burton? Did you did you 364 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: have to move Burton? Yeah? Well that matter they changed 365 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: to move Burton. Yes, lost the game drive ball in 366 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: the second they dropped the bory because I don't know, 367 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: but you see those a. 368 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 6: Lot of them were Galvin. 369 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 5: Some of them were Galvin related, yes, but they all weren't. 370 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 5: They completed fifty percent in the second half the eight. 371 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: No one had an issue with the changes. Eighty mil 372 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 5: up second half. They come out, made too many errors 373 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: and Ezra Man got the Broncos. 374 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Can I ask a Bulldogs fan question, do you reckon? 375 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: Everybody's happy with what's happening. 376 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: As in plat we No? Probably not. 377 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: Toby Sexons have to leave read Marney's leaving. No, I'd 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 5: say they wouldn't be happy. 379 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: Do you think anyone else will be asked to leave. 380 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: You know, they've got Big Thompson from Newcastle coming in 381 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: on eight hundred thousand dollars a year, which is double 382 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: the money, Max King so on, double the money, Preston, 383 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: so on. 384 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: Who's going to be next to go? I don't know. 385 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 6: I'm not on the recruitment committee. 386 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Do you think Gavin's has accelerated the Sexton and Money 387 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: lead to leave? 388 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: No? 389 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: I thought not. 390 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 5: The Sexton won't, no, because I think he's always been 391 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: I mean Money. 392 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 6: Read Money. 393 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 5: His manager asked for permission the off season to explore 394 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: his options, so that was again always on the cards. 395 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably been happened to accelerate a little 396 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 5: bit because Galvin's right, but that's been on the cards 397 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: for a long time. 398 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 4: Broth. 399 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 6: We've talked about it previously on the. 400 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: Show, that that Money and his management asked for permission 401 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: to explore their options because the Dogs weren't, because they went. 402 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: To the Dogs to ask. 403 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: Well, my understanding is Sam went to the Dogs to 404 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: ask about an extension, and the Dogs at that point 405 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 5: Gus must have said, we're not positioned to give an extension. 406 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: This was in the preseason so we asked the permission 407 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: to go to market. 408 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: That was what before was on the what's happened? You 409 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: hear that money was on the nose before then? 410 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 6: Or wen't he's on the nose now? 411 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: Well, well he was, and I'm surprised he was on. 412 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: The nose before then. Yes, it's not Galvin related. 413 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: No, Look, I've spoken. 414 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: To people at Canterbury who've been worried about his discipline 415 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: for quite some time and the fact he's for a 416 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: number of years he's been the most heavily penalized player 417 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: in the game. 418 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 6: So that's not Galvin related. You just con and it's not. 419 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't know if it's Galvin related yourself. 420 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: Well you asked the question, was he or break did? 421 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: Was he on or was he off? 422 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: Right? 423 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: Was it Galvin related? Was it Thompson related? They have 424 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: to free up money in the cap. I think their 425 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: long term plan is to pay Bailey Heywood. I think 426 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: of this, that's what their plan is. Doesn't take away 427 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: from the point I'm trying to make, is you reckon? 428 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: You want to go back nine weeks two weeks ago 429 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: they were leading the competition. 430 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: Now half of the spine that took them there have 431 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: been shown the door. 432 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: True, we've been saying it for weeks, right and they 433 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: could find their feet here. But still right now everyone's 434 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: sitting here, and I'm sure they are I think for 435 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: the first time, Zero Serroaldo would have to be thinking, 436 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: oh what do I like? This is the toughest test 437 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I believe, apart from the rebuild, is now they've got 438 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: there is what do I do? Now? What move do 439 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I make? It's going to benefit our team And in 440 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: the process of this, unfortunately, which just will happen, is 441 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: other players are impacted and affected by you. You know 442 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: that they're going to be thinking about where their positions 443 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: in the team are or what their future lies. And 444 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, have we gone backwards here? Do we have 445 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: a good enough team to win the compo? We're going 446 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: to get this right off? So's they've added a whole 447 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: lot of dimension they didn't need at this period of 448 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: the season. Do not agree with that. 449 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: There's no doubt it's added another dimension and another dilemma 450 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: for Camracealdo. 451 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 6: But there's time to work it out. There is not 452 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 6: themselves in a really good position. 453 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 5: I think I said a week or two ago, I 454 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: think they just need to make a call and stick 455 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 5: with it, whether it's Sexton or Galvin. 456 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: Maybe Galvin and reserve grade. 457 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 6: No, I don't think you put him in reserve grade. 458 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's some pretty good judges who were 459 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: suggesting that. I had Greg Alexander on the Super Saturday 460 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: talking about his performance and he said he can't find 461 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: a spot for Lachlan in the starting seminary and. 462 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: On his performances and without one the quoted one. 463 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: I think I heard you say yesterday Gordon on radio 464 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 3: that the Dogs bring them in when they brought him 465 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: in that would it have been wiser to wait until 466 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: the end of the season, let West Tigers continue to 467 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: pay him and then give him a full off season. 468 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: And then that wasn't feasible because of what was going 469 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: on with the West Tigers. That just was not feasible. 470 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: If things were untenable there, it couldn't. It couldn't work 471 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: that way, Buzz. 472 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: It's always been why was it untenable in the clubmates? 473 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 6: A bullying back there? Yeah, well that's that's pretty untenable. 474 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: And what was his social media posting was there? 475 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 6: What was that about when he posted about talent? Yeah, 476 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: he's clubbing, amag or something. 477 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: His kids very talent and he's going to be a 478 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: success story there. But I know one thing about the 479 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: Balldogs is every player's ever played, they had to earn 480 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: their jersey. You earn that right, and I feel like 481 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: it's just been headed to it a little bit too 482 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: easily and it has impacted other players there, and that's 483 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: something they to look at, I think, because. 484 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: I cannot say one other thing. There's three other clubs 485 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: in the top four. It's the canber Raiders, there's Melbourne 486 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: Storm and then New Zealand Warriors. Are we talking about 487 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: them chopping changing half back out, porker out. 488 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: But it's happening on the weekend. Yeah, Melbourne made a 489 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: lot of changes on the weekend. But no, no, no, no, 490 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 5: Pizzard played. 491 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 6: No Dogs. 492 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: You've lost. 493 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: I can't even talk to you anymore, Number nine. 494 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: That is not what I was talking about. 495 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about next year, in the next three years. 496 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: You know, they signed Brailey from Newcastle, right, they didn't 497 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: want to move him. 498 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: They'll slide him in in the off season. 499 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Just Milt. 500 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: I just told you why he had to go. 501 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 6: Now you know why he had to leave mid season? 502 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 6: You know it was untenable with the Tigers. 503 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, you know, let's move on 504 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: Buzzy Monday Buzzes. Yeah, you were pretty hard on Gus. 505 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: Oh well, look all I did? Did I go hard 506 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: on him? I gave him a wrap? Actually, I said, no, I. 507 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Want to hear what I read it. I read it. 508 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: I said that no one can build a Premiership team 509 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: like Phil Gould. I then said, but can he actually 510 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: deliver a title? And I pointed out that's been twenty 511 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: three years since two thousand and two when Richie Stewart 512 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: coached the Bruce and Gus said, since he had any silverware. 513 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: That's all I pointed out. 514 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: And it was all fact mind you, completely factual, completely factual. 515 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: And he did the same thing at Penrith exactly the same, 516 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: set him up, pathway, everything, brilliant, they could win a title. 517 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: He left, He bought him Jamie Soud and he punted 518 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: Jamie Soud. He brought him Marny Marty didn't see board 519 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 3: in Trent Marrit said he captain just got rid of him. 520 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Did the same with Ivan. He was tied signed Griffin, 521 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: except all I did was point. 522 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 4: Out the facts. 523 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: He's the best set up man in the business to 524 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: build a thriving football club, but the fact of. 525 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: The matter is he cannot go that extra step and 526 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: deliver it job. 527 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely questioning whether he can actually get there. 528 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: I wrote this morning they have the best pathways in 529 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: the NRL, he's set them up and he doesn't have 530 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: the junior bases stockpiling juniors. 531 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Do you think you just overset the mark on this occasion? 532 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? 533 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: I think I think they've had this massive mid season 534 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: upheaval that they didn't need to have. 535 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. And there was a history of 536 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 4: this happening at his previous clubs. 537 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Really respond, you go off, you go? Is it true? 538 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: Twenty three years? 539 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 6: I feel like at times it's like super coach for him. 540 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: You know, who's going out and trying to build the 541 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 5: perfect team at times and it involves some tinkering. And 542 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: they're a better team with Lockean galvinet in my opinion, 543 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: they're a better team now. Maybe we didn't see it 544 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 5: in the second half on Friday night, right, but I 545 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: think Lochland Galvin will eventually be a great signing for them, 546 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 5: and maybe it might be as as early as later 547 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: this year when the finals and Gavin's and number seven 548 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: Jersey and. 549 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 6: Maybe they win a camp with him there. 550 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: And I go back to my other point. Those other 551 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: three top four clubs are so settled and all they're 552 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: worried about this next nine weeks in the finals. There's 553 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: no upevil, there's no confusion, there's no players walking on 554 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: eggs shells. 555 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: They're settled. 556 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 5: I reckon, if you could say to the Warriors, there's 557 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: a heart, We've got a half pack for you, I reckon, 558 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: they probably take them right now, give. 559 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: So they'll be happy to happiness. 560 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: We're talking about the situation. The girls didn't need to 561 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: do it though, that's the whole thing. He obviously thought. 562 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 6: Gus obviously thought they. 563 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: Did really well. What do you reckon? What else would 564 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: and you didn't go it's a bit crazy, given I'm 565 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: coming first and second. 566 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 6: I'm not going to turn around now and said it's crazy. 567 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: But what I said for weeks it was a great 568 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: decision and their spine I've set it from the. 569 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: Great he is a great decision, but the actual to 570 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: interrupt the team effective immediately. 571 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 5: Because both I said at the start of the year, 572 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 5: if you remember you guys asked me to the docs 573 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 5: when the comp and I see the spines. 574 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 6: Not good. 575 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: Nothing really, there's better ways to do business. The Raiders 576 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: are letting go their number seven and they haven't dropped 577 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: anybody around. They're not chopping and changing. They're letting him 578 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: finish the year with a bit of respect and they're 579 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: still going on the way. 580 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: And they planned for this by bringing the young fellow 581 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: what's the young fellow from paramaed and Sanders? 582 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: This was planned. 583 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: The Dogs got Mitch Woods there too, by the way, 584 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: they have yes