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Speaker 1: Better than the Lego, better than Lego. Well matches at

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Speaker 1: it again, God saying about our grabby tactics, and that

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Speaker 1: keep going with the glaz sounds like someone else has

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Speaker 1: lived in a glasshouse picking.

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Speaker 2: A fight with Talis trying to find line, but just

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Speaker 2: adds to the drama of it all, doesn't it. And

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Speaker 2: I tell you what he backed it up with the

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Speaker 2: performance that game. To performance in New south Wales that

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Speaker 2: first forty minutes is argua we one of the best

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Speaker 2: pro seen from a New South Wales team in a

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Speaker 2: long long time.

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Speaker 3: It was powerful, it was dominant.

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Speaker 2: It was Painhas, it was Angus Crichton, it was Moses.

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Speaker 3: It was it was one way traffic.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was the glasshouses comment, but

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Speaker 1: certainly into their game it was like the narrative just

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Speaker 1: switched the other way a little bit like New South

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Speaker 1: Wales played went into the game with a really aggressive

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Speaker 1: underdog mentality that I think a lot of times we

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Speaker 1: like to assume the underdog status.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was no frill, so like painhass first stint was

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Speaker 2: tremendous and that almost set the agenda for everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Then Angus Crichton got into it, and then once Mitchell

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Speaker 2: moses like, I feel like when you talk about like

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Speaker 2: main play caller, like Niko Hines is a genuine nice guy,

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Speaker 2: but he's probably a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Not really assertive, might be a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit stand off, fish cool, blase, whatever, but Mitch

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Speaker 2: seems to be the the swagger, the arrogance that I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what to do when you want to do it,

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Speaker 2: top thing, and it just fell into place.

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Speaker 4: For it did Coops.

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Speaker 1: But we head into this third game, which already can

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Speaker 1: start the feel is going to be a monster.

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Speaker 2: This will stop the rugby league world. This game like

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Speaker 2: this will be I'm always it'll go down to the

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Speaker 2: last minute golden point.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it goes go.

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Speaker 2: Is that big of a deal that New South Wales

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Speaker 2: is a lot of confidence coming into Game three Queensland.

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Speaker 2: They're in their backyard at sun Corp and the faithful

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Speaker 2: will play play their role in it and they'll they'll

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Speaker 2: stand tall.

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Speaker 3: It'll be an epic contest.

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Speaker 4: Interesting with Latrell being ruled out.

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Speaker 1: Now the betting markets are I mean, look at some

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Speaker 1: means to an end. It's probably a poor way of

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Speaker 1: played out or but dollar ninety five each Latrell gets

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Speaker 1: ruled out Queensland dollars seventy favorites.

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Speaker 3: That's a bigger swing. But I understand why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The menu of replacements manager was Bradman Best, Matt Burton,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Swali and Tommy Turbo who went for Bradman.

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Speaker 4: Who's before we little placements?

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Speaker 2: How many points differential is Latrell from your perspective? Is

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Speaker 2: it that big of a gap? Are we talking a

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Speaker 2: try here? Or are we talking it's minimal change in

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Speaker 2: your opinion?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what Coops I think with Latrell? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's maybe it's a try.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I tell what it is. It's presence,

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Speaker 4: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's what he does to his teammates and what he

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Speaker 1: does I think to it. I think he does intimidate

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Speaker 2: Because I think Vale Holmes defending next to Cherry Evans

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Speaker 2: Cherry Evans is isolated on Angus Crichton, and I mean

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Speaker 2: Nano is then isolated on Lui.

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Speaker 4: And Xavier Coats was trying to three.

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Speaker 2: Guys didn't defend well together at all in Game two

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Speaker 2: for Queensland. So I get it, but gone with Bradman,

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think I probably think it's an obvious one that

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Speaker 1: there was part of me that would love to see

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Speaker 1: Joseph Swale you get another shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the world card one right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem, I mean the problem was it

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Speaker 4: You know, we've seen that with Game two with Reyes.

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Speaker 1: Is that you need to be playing football suddenly you

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Speaker 1: hit that standard you've got, You've got to you can't

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Speaker 2: Russ I actually would have wouldn't mind it. But it's

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Speaker 2: a hell of a risk for McGuire to go Swiley.

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Speaker 2: You're in the decider in his first series, as said coach,

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Speaker 2: So I get why.

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Speaker 3: He went that.

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Speaker 1: I reckon you need to have a bit of a

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Speaker 2: Slightly like burn He's in good form, like Burne is

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Speaker 2: confident at the moment, like a couple of match winning

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Speaker 2: field goals, Like just the rhythm that he's playing with.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a moving position, but he's done it before.

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Speaker 4: But it's really best versus Bradman's power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got great power, and I probably he'll he'll

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Speaker 2: I'll think about this way, right, So here's another thing

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Speaker 2: Dane gag Guy has taught Breadman Best basically everything he

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Speaker 2: you've got a bit of like the young dog up

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Speaker 2: Guy I would know the weaknesses of Best. And you're

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Speaker 2: going to throw on Kaitlyn Ponger here too. So these

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Speaker 2: guys training against Bradman every day for the last however

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Speaker 2: long it's been. And trust me, when you play a

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Speaker 2: there's no hiding things here. So I think I think

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like that gag Guy and Ponger

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Speaker 2: know everything about Bradman and if I'm Billy, I'm sending

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Speaker 2: he is hard.

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Speaker 3: To get around.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which team he's playing for. He's playing

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Speaker 2: thing for Queensland.

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Speaker 1: I'd see what is a really good thing for New

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Speaker 1: South Wales is that Stephen Crichton defends our right side

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Speaker 1: and that is the preferred side of Calum Pongeres too

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Speaker 1: last defender skip and go long. So having Crichton there

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Speaker 1: is a big one. David for Feeder before I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about gags in a second, David for Feeder.

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Speaker 4: Billy is so astute.

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Speaker 1: It's a surprise, but there obviously is just something in

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Speaker 4: And there's no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt when you put a guy like Kurt Capell Billy

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Speaker 1: give him.

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Speaker 2: Again, my sort of guessing game at Kate Well is

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Speaker 2: or might have been in the picture for Billy and

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Speaker 2: then he was injured, so he's like, Okay, who am

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Speaker 2: I going with. He's obviously got some concerns around for

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Speaker 2: Fee to playing long minutes, and to be fair, like

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Speaker 2: we've seen that you can sit here and watch Titans

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Speaker 2: game and he'll score a try and set one up,

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Speaker 2: but there will be things that he misses through long

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Speaker 2: periods and fatigue. So maybe Suwa came in for Kate Well.

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Speaker 2: Then Sue didn't really respond in game too, So Kate Well,

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Speaker 2: you're you're going a job.

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Speaker 3: You're rock solid offensively. I thought play long minute.

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Speaker 1: I thought Sewer and Tommy didn't defend it together was

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Speaker 1: a real problem for Queensland.

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Speaker 2: And the only argument I could make for Fee to

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Speaker 2: a lot of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Now, Dave would have a bigger impact than.

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Speaker 2: Kafusi for ten, fifteen, twenty minutes max for a period

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Speaker 2: of time, but there's probably just something that Billy has

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Speaker 2: seen in his dungeon watching every player that he's able

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Speaker 2: to watch Queensland that he just doesn't want to get

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Speaker 2: to at the moment. He will get there at some stage,

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Speaker 2: but maybe there's something there. And I look from my

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Speaker 2: point of view, I've seen at different stages. I don't

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Speaker 2: watch as closely as Billy, But in saying that he

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Speaker 2: could have done what Kafusi had done for ten or

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Speaker 4: I I'm really happy for Dan Gaguy.

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Speaker 1: I mixed mixed emotions because he's close to my favorite

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Speaker 1: just love what he's about. I love the father. I mean,

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Speaker 1: gave it all. He's got two Wally Lewis Medals of

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Speaker 1: course from the wing, which is incredible. And I've got

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Speaker 1: but mate, he worries me from a New New South

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Speaker 1: Wales perspective, because he's just he's got that ability to elevate.

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Speaker 3: He played well on the weekend. He was it's not.

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Speaker 4: Funny one thing like that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he had the sense or maybe given a tip,

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Speaker 3: Little phone call from Billy it made he was sensational.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I really do what gag guys delivers Queensland on the

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Speaker 2: Wing early on, like it's some of the best performances

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Speaker 2: just feel like in an origin decider, when you need something,

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Speaker 2: someone like gag Guy is the type of person who

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Speaker 2: on this and it wasn't He wasn't a player that.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 2: Billy got the job, we all think I'll gag be

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Speaker 2: in the side how it comes in and Gago I

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Speaker 2: never dropped the bottom lip, he said, Billy, Yep, whenever

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Speaker 2: you need me, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: He was caught in at eighth min.

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Speaker 2: At different stages and I feel like this is just

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Speaker 2: like not not meant to be or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But I like how this has all worked.

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Speaker 1: Out, you know, getting out for big games, you play

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Speaker 1: with gags at origin level. Of course, I'm just curious

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Speaker 1: what he's like before the game, because that ability to

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Speaker 1: use emotion to elevate yourself is a really underrated skill.

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Speaker 4: He can do it. What was he what was he

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Speaker 4: like in build up?

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Speaker 2: And he's a good character, pretty fun loving, quiet, cheeky,

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Speaker 2: up he goes quiet. He's focused and determined and like

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Speaker 2: some of those games on the wing for Queensland, like

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Speaker 2: the tries he scored, the meters, he works the backyard

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Speaker 2: carriage absolutely that deserves the medals he won.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, he'll he'll lift again, like he

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Speaker 3: will go again.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Not the same position, but you simplify things a lot clearer.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you said that because I interviewed on their

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Speaker 4: Winger every year. Yeah, he was really good. He confided

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, Matte, even when I was playing

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Speaker 2: And it's probably why young athletic outside backs start on

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Speaker 4: Right, are the big one, Kaylon Ponger.

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Speaker 1: It's I've heard a few people say, oh yeah, he

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Speaker 4: He every touch of the football.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, he would have been there in Game one,

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Speaker 2: kicked him. Absolutely, he's a freaking our game. I love

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Speaker 2: what he's done out of position for Queensland. In terms

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Speaker 3: But then when he's done at fullback. We spoke about

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Speaker 2: And Ponger combination before orojin one, and then Pong got injured.

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Speaker 2: Billy's gone back to the book and he's gone, all right, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to play this card now.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, there's some people that

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Speaker 3: I don't at all. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I don't suit it as a risk. I suit it

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Speaker 1: as a common sense decision. Also, I'll ask you this,

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: What I mean by that is you've got Rus Walsh

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Speaker 1: It'd be like you're getting selected as you young play

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Speaker 4: How do you mean he's that?

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Speaker 2: If you're slave, completely understand it. And I'll slip the

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Speaker 2: be like picking Moses and Cleary together, yep, and then

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Speaker 2: getting Joey Johns to sit with them and say this

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Speaker 2: is how we're going to play. Billy is the greatest

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Speaker 3: Both Ponger and.

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Speaker 2: Walsh idolized Billy, I imagine, and He's going to sit

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Speaker 2: down with both of them and say, hey, listen, this

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Speaker 2: is how it's going to work. And when you two

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Speaker 1: Do you think where do you think Ponger plays? Plays

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Speaker 1: in the middle like he did.

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Speaker 2: I think he plays in the middle. I think that

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Speaker 2: would be his first call. But I also wouldn't put

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Speaker 2: depending on how the game goes. But he has definitely

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Speaker 4: Could think of.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, there's going to be a question write no doubt

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Speaker 2: about that, like how's how's Ponger going to stop paying

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Speaker 3: That's a difficult thing. But think about it the other way.

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Speaker 2: When the balls in their hand, like having Walsh on

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Speaker 1: It was very similar to us with Connor Watson bringing

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Speaker 4: On comes kind of Watson.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing with Kaylon if all

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Speaker 2: Just as an example, let's pretend the balls in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the field and Dylan Edwards is marshalling the

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Speaker 2: one side, Walsh on the other side. Which day Which

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Speaker 2: way does Edwards put all the defenders? Does he go

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's go into our club Land and Jason Riles

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Speaker 1: your ole mad did you play with Rosie at the storm?

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Speaker 2: Mad with him and then transitioned into coach. He was

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Speaker 1: There was a bit of mail coming around that Josh

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Speaker 1: Hannay was going to get a job.

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Speaker 4: But obviously.

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Speaker 1: Rosey has okay, Coops took them at the job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a great job. The paramount of club is just

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Speaker 1: a it's a giant club. But you know, I hear

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Speaker 4: Have got a strong roster.

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Speaker 3: Is the question mark?

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Speaker 4: Is it a strong roster?

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Speaker 1: It might be, it might be a strong roster on reputation,

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Speaker 1: but the bottom line is they're coming last.

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Speaker 4: And I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell was missing for a bit of a stint there,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't been winning when he's returned.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if you had any interesting coach and I didn't

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Speaker 2: like the fact that you get to work with Moses

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Speaker 2: and Brown, that's the lightning rod for me to go there,

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Speaker 2: right like that in a nutshell, potentially could be the

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Speaker 2: start working through it. But just defensively, like RCG and

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Speaker 2: Junior Paula, like their lateral movement and their ability to

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Speaker 2: have to work some magic there. They're outside backs are

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Speaker 2: not like devastating, Like I really like a couple of

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Speaker 2: the young guys. We've got a scene and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Blas along, yep. But the Moses and Brown thing is

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Speaker 4: He's got to work out the Dylan Brown thing as well.

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 1: That's just about first Dylan Brown Dylan Brown situation. He

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Speaker 4: Every two player option in his every couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's just going to be an ongoing saga unless

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Speaker 1: they address it right now.

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Speaker 2: There's one thing Rolls either backs himself in and that

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Speaker 2: player option just takes care of itself because they're playing well,

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Speaker 3: Mate, this is how we're going to go about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't need this action.

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Speaker 2: But it's a challenge for Jason because I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I've got the information Roddy, but he knocked back.

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Speaker 3: The Dragon's gig.

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Speaker 2: He did, and then he's gone to Melbourne and it

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Speaker 2: was almost like he was going to be ushered in

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Speaker 2: because he left the Roosters to take over from Craig.

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Speaker 2: But now he's parachuted out because maybe he's got indication

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Speaker 3: So he's now gone to Paramatt. So he wants to coach.

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Speaker 2: He's got all the ingredients in terms of the apprenticeship exposure.

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Speaker 2: He's done that stint with rugby stages too, So look,

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Speaker 2: you can't do any more than what Jason Rowles has done.

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Speaker 2: And that's probably why Eels hierarchy went with him.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's the if the Melbourne Storm had

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Speaker 1: anointed him as the successor.

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Speaker 4: I think it says at all it's almost like the

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Speaker 3: Due diligence already for you.

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Speaker 4: That's right. I tell what's tricky for Rosy.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have to turn over elements of the

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Speaker 4: So that's going to be tough.

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Speaker 2: And like I feel like, when you've got Moses and Brown,

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Speaker 3: But you just need some things to compliment.

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Speaker 2: When you've already got, which is Mitchell Moses, you don't

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Speaker 2: those two there are. Your key, just gets some pieces

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Speaker 1: South Sydney going great. Latrell Losses is huge, of course,

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Speaker 1: but Cody Walker and Jack Whiton there's operating brilliantly in combinations.

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Speaker 1: Made me think coops a little bit on those two blacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you pick a side and

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Speaker 4: You get there a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's you can pick on talent and you can pick

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Speaker 4: The team to how they need to play.

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Speaker 1: So you look at Jack when we were saying at

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Speaker 1: when it's a run first mentality and driving through the

445
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: middle right and and that's what Jack gives. And with

446
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: Jack there, it's just made the side just limit their

447
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: sideways ball movement.

448
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: Two things I'm picking up from this vision here the

449
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 2: Eels issues, like what Jason Rolls has to fix on.

450
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: There is so many gaps through that middle defensively there

451
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: for the Eels. But on the flip side, remember we

452
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 2: spoke a couple years back when Damie Cook was up

453
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: in about the running thread of Cook almost forced Cody

454
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: Walker to become a runner. It went from a backfoot

455
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 2: mindset of ballplane into oh I need to support yep Cooking.

456
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: It's almost that Jack's done the same for Cody. So

457
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 2: Jack isn't like a traditional ball player is give me

458
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: the ball, left foot, left foot, go through. It's almost

459
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 2: forced Cody back into his running game a little bit

460
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: because I could imagine him being the older playmaker thinking

461
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to be the one that has

462
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: to call things and set things up.

463
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: But it's actually.

464
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: Forced Cody to run the ball because the example of

465
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: what Jack's just doing.

466
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: He looks fit like when Cookie gets out of dummy

467
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,719
Speaker 1: half and that triggers Cody.

468
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: Things just start to happen.

469
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: And I suppose the original point on that is one

470
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: of the big differences has been that suddenly had an

471
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: where the bunnies dominating the artist battle, where before like

472
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: yardage wise are a legless or I will say this,

473
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: they've played teams down the bottom and they've won, which

474
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: is great.

475
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: They needed to.

476
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: One thing that I have been surprised that's been pretty

477
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: effective is they're both left footed kickers, so Cody has

478
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: had to kick on the wrong side of the book

479
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: field naturally, but he's swung around the other side to

480
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: accommodate it. The big question mark is Ken South's played finals.

481
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think they make it?

482
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I don't think I'd like

483
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: to see it. Yeah, it'd be a great it'd be.

484
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: A great story, but they put my heart and I

485
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: don't see him making it me too.

486
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: And just to back that up, like they need to

487
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: win seven games, seven of the last nine games, and

488
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 2: in round twenty seven they play the Roosters. Round twenty six,

489
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: they play the Panthers and round twenty three they play

490
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: the Storm. So they've got some they're beating teams they shouldn't.

491
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: They got the Broncos at a good time for them.

492
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: They won that, so they've beaten the teams sort of

493
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: in and around them. But when they go up a peg,

494
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: does those issues come back to play?

495
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: And could the other thing as well.

496
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: There's certain decisions that are going on within the club

497
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: that tell me that their eyes are on next season

498
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: to an extent, experimenting positionally telling Campbell Graham, Campbell, just

499
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: go away, relax when I.

500
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: Can meag you for the rest of this year.

501
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what they're going to do with

502
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Latrell with this, Frank, So, I think there's a chance

503
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: of them saying just get the operation done next season.

504
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: I just saw that then, right. So if they need

505
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: to win all those games, and they've got those three

506
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: teams in the last month and they need to win

507
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: basically every game up until the Storm game, they drop

508
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 2: one or two, there's no chance of making it.

509
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: Ye, Latrell, you're on ice.

510
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Broncos they going to play finals.

511
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: I am really stuck on this one, Like I thought

512
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: defensively for a period of time, they were lacking everything

513
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 2: that made them great at different stages. Last year, I

514
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: thought the game against the Paters, while they didn't win,

515
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: there were signs of that aggression, that line speed, a

516
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: lot of good defensive efforts on their goal line. I

517
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: just don't know that they're slipping backwards quickly. This origin

518
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: period has hurt them and talent to burn, but.

519
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 3: Also like some of their assistant coaches have left.

520
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 4: Too, like the Lee Breeze one. I don't know how

521
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 4: that right's gone.

522
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: He's gone to Super League now, Liebreez. I don't know

523
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: whether it's Breezy's decision or it's the club's decision or

524
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: what it was, but yeah, I think he's not going

525
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: to be there next year.

526
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 4: They're told him that now.

527
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if Breezy might have a sniff of

528
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 1: a job back in England or else, I don't know.

529
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: But if it's the club's decision to go, then that's I'm.

530
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: Going to hold my chips on that Broncos decision. You

531
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: asked me that, what do you think.

532
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: I think they will I think they'll get there.

533
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: My talent they have to.

534
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: My prediction for the Broncos. Would they reach second week

535
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: of the finals. I don't think they're capable of making

536
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: the eight and just having a run right through.

537
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: I reckon the second week of the finals.

538
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: What the position they've put themselves in, Coops is that

539
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: suddenly the pressure's on.

540
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 4: Now you know where you've you've got to get out there.

541
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: You've got to be.

542
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Out there, You've got to be winning games, and that

543
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: that pressure takes a toll on the petrol tank. Oftentimes

544
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: you get there and you've got nothing left. It actually

545
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: reminds me Coop if we go back to season ninety

546
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: ninety nine, way back in the rear vision mirror, Bronco

547
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: has won the comp in ninety eight. In ninety nine

548
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: they started the season, I remem there was something not

549
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: quite right.

550
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: They lost there. They lost eight in a row.

551
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: I think to start season ninety nine Alfie retired on

552
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: the way through. Remember that they plade more he retired.

553
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: Now they were in dire straits. Ba Wayne pulled them

554
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: together and they went on this great run. They made

555
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: the finals, got knocked out the first week by Cronulla

556
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: because they spent all their pennies getting there's it's the

557
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: danger they find themselves, and you think.

558
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: About just off the tom I had like Broncos manly cowboys.

559
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: I think the Dragons might even be in and around

560
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: that mark, around the eighth ninth spot. It's time for

561
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: those teams to start putting a good three or four

562
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: weeks together to separate from that pack, because the last

563
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: thing you need to be doing is worrying about every

564
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: point that your score or can see coming into last week,

565
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: and it might just come down to that.

566
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: Actually with the point now.

567
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Coop, I was going to talk a lot about Penis here,

568
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: but I'll just touch on them because I want to

569
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: do it a tribute to Jeff Robinson and talk about

570
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: some of the greatest characters in rugby league Penis. I've

571
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: never seen a team who methodically builds a performance towards

572
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: a result like Penris that it was a master class

573
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: against the Broncos in the fact that you know ball control,

574
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: but I reckon eighty of their attacks sequences ended up

575
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: with an inside ball going back through the middle in

576
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: the Broncos in through their big middleman. Now, if you

577
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: think about that, how you put all those peace is

578
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: the puzzle together. Law control, high completions make the opposition

579
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: middles just tackle, tackle and tackle, just don't don't let

580
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: them relax at all, and then hand the ball over

581
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and make them come off their own line and good luck.

582
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: And that's how Grand Final night. The other night you

583
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: just saw the Broncos middles with about fifteen to go,

584
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: we're gone out in their feet.

585
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: It was a repeat of the Grand Final.

586
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: From analytical point of view, when players come out of

587
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: the tackle, they normally go to the first or second

588
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: defender off the ruck, and that's exactly where the next

589
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: back row gets dropped off through the Pederith system and attacks.

590
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: So they're actually making middle forwards make two three tackles

591
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: in a row in a set of as opposed the

592
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: teams going sideways. The thing against it is if you

593
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: can get line speed and stop down and stop that

594
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: inside play, it actually nullifies ford momentum to their get

595
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: on the front foot and play. So there's a game

596
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: of chess right there for Benterth. But respect it, love it.

597
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: They're the best of we they do.

598
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: Last week we loft Jeff Robinson, who one of rugby

599
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: league's greatest characters. Fantastic guy, just a real lot. I thought,

600
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: let's let's have a look at our top five characters

601
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: in our time in the game, and Robbo's one of them.

602
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of the Cheese. He

603
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: was certainly an uncompromising bloke, great power runner, and was

604
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: a good coach. He coached the under twenty ones of

605
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs to the premiership in nineteen ninety one. And

606
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, the paramount of war PARAMOUNTA used to

607
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: set the wall up like that, and he just one

608
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: day just went, you know what, fuck that shit, I'm

609
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: just going to run through it. Yeah, So Robbo is

610
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: certainly one of my greatest characters. The other one, of course,

611
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: is tom Rydonicus. When you talk about Grace, right, I

612
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: got a story about Tommy. I remember being a kid

613
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: in nine eighty one and Dad's side the Cesino Go winners.

614
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: We're up against Newtown Patrol. And the next day we went.

615
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: At Tyrrells vineyard, both sides, and I just stood there

616
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: myself and Andrew and just listened to Tommy tell story after.

617
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: Story after story.

618
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: And he always started every story bout saying, now, boys,

619
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: don't tell your mother, And I said this, but and

620
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: the other one was holy you that, and the other

621
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: one was a Golden Slipper Day in two thousand Andrew

622
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: and I arrive at the race course and we're walking

623
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: to some marquee and I hear this, what are you

624
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: blokes doing. It's singer Tom Radonicus Camal and Bob Hawk

625
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and I said.

626
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: Oh, we're going to one over there.

627
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

628
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: You're the two John's boys with that. You're coming in,

629
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: You're coming in.

630
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: So we stay there and it was it was well,

631
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happened on that day.

632
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: When we get there.

633
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: They were having a chat about he is going to

634
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: win and see how it goes.

635
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: Mad.

636
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: I've got a horse in Beldazure, it's fourteen to one

637
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: back and it's going to win.

638
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: And I went, please he jump beld as you were

639
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: in that day.

640
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: He jumped five lengths last right and did this amazing

641
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: run on the inside and won and all they were

642
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: all on it. And actually history shows what singer went

643
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: free piss free drink for the whole race course, but

644
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: not for the members, for everyone, just all the parts.

645
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: The other one, Alan Langer, you'd have had lot to

646
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: do it in the origin camp.

647
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one of the greatest players our games seen

648
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: greatest halfbacks, but then one of the most loved and

649
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: good time guys you have. He's got this role within

650
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Queensland Origin team that he doesn't do a lot of,

651
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: let's say coaching. He's got this sort of knack of

652
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: bringing people together, making the awkward feel like it's easy,

653
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: and he gets.

654
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: Away with murder.

655
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Basically, he would never get a charge stuck to him.

656
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: He's he I don't know, like he is good value.

657
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: He is if I was ever to have a party.

658
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: There's one person.

659
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: Who well, this next bloke.

660
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: Honestly he's nearly murdered a few people on the field

661
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: but didn't get away with it. That's Mark Guyer and

662
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: I worked with for years, but eight years on the

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Speaker 1: Grill team with him is iconic. But mate, he is

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest artists of Also, I remember once

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Speaker 1: there was a Warreck Farm race course and there was

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Speaker 1: the Grill team handicap right, and they said, whatever wins,

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Speaker 1: would you blaze it up and do the presentation?

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Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, good as gold. So anyway, so anyway,

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Speaker 4: the horse.

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Speaker 1: Wins and they said, mate, there's the owner about to

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Speaker 1: get up, which one of you boys want to present?

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Speaker 1: The trophy, and of course our co host Gus walland

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Speaker 1: Gus goes, I'll do it.

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Speaker 4: He's ok. Chores.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, the bloke who owned the horse who is presenting

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Speaker 1: to I'm pretty sure his name was something like John

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Speaker 1: crab right, and he said to him G.

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Speaker 4: He said to m G, what's what? What's What's the

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Speaker 4: blake's name?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 4: Then went John Lobster right.

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Speaker 1: He got up one stage and went presenting, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to present the trophy, ladies and gentlemen to the cruelty

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Speaker 1: handicap John Lobster and the poor blokes.

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Speaker 4: Just like what.

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Speaker 1: And the last bloke we talk about, he is no

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Speaker 1: longer with us, The late great Peter Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Jacko played for Brisbane South's.

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Speaker 1: Under Wayne went down joined the Raiders when Wayne went

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Speaker 1: there in eighty seven. From there he went to the

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Speaker 1: Broncos with Wayne and then finished career at North Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Just one of the greatest blokes you'd ever meet.

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Speaker 2: In terms of my characters, I'm a little bit younger

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Speaker 2: than you, Matthew, so I have to wind back the

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Speaker 2: colck not that far. But when I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: the characters, the names that came to me were Red Reagan, Yes, yep,

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Speaker 2: Trent the flights to him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was a that one yeah yeah, different times.

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Speaker 5: Don Kirk yeah yeah, Kirk was good. Steven the Manchild, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm really sure about one, really good, and Jack Cooper

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Speaker 5: from the Final Window at all good, all good.

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Speaker 3: Great characters of our game.

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Speaker 4: Right, don't say anything more. We've just finished on a high.

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Speaker 4: There's good