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Speaker 1: Approache Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am

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Speaker 1: Neil the Muscle Comments and in.

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Speaker 2: This episode I speak to Alex k one of the

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Speaker 2: pioneers of NRG dance music and an absolute DJ legend.

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Speaker 3: I loved radio transmissions and stuff, so helped me build

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Speaker 3: I was doing house parties beforehand, just took jobs wherever

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Speaker 3: I was underage, working in the cross.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: I went number one on all those albums pretty much

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Speaker 3: over there and it was just a whirlwind time. There's

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Speaker 3: obviously an unwritten law that you know you're you're honest

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Speaker 3: to who you're working for. I don't want to step

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Speaker 3: on their toes. No, no, you don't do that. You

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Speaker 3: stay with you who you're loyal to.

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Speaker 1: Alex K. Neil, thank you so much for having me man,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: And as I've said to you before, even though you

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Speaker 2: don't like this to be said, you are a legend.

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Speaker 2: You are a god to some people, and you are

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Speaker 2: a very good friend. So I'm glad to have you

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Speaker 2: on my podcast to talk about your life and your

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me very happy to be here, man.

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Speaker 1: So let's get this on the way.

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Speaker 2: I think we've had about fucking so many goals to

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Speaker 2: get this done. But you know what, I've been patient

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Speaker 2: because you've had a lot going on and we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about that. So let's get this role in, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about you growing up before you were a

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Speaker 1: All right. So yeah, born in Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Loved loved electronics and stuff from when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: My dad, when he came out from Grace.

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Speaker 3: He had a friend Arthur, who had a pirate radio

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But what did like before you even got into that,

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Speaker 2: how what was your in your head?

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Speaker 1: That what you wanted to be when you grow up?

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Speaker 3: I just escaped with music, you know. Growing up, you know,

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Speaker 3: we moved around a bit and it was my escape.

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Speaker 3: Man to man, I've got a younger brother, yep, and

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Speaker 1: Was a good growing up like period for you as

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Speaker 1: a teenager. As a kid, I was a bit unorthodox.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like she's she was married a couple of

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Speaker 1: I moved around school's a fair bit.

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Speaker 3: I actually enjoyed that because you met people from other areas.

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Speaker 1: It's different, you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I had a good social life growing up, where

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Speaker 1: I never had a job.

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Speaker 4: Full I've never My first job was with wild FM,

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Speaker 4: so that's your first job.

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Speaker 3: My first job was actually technically with wild FM, so

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Speaker 3: I never know. I never had a job. I always

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Speaker 3: radio station, and the OG people will know this. It

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Speaker 3: how wild FM. I was just doing the doing the music,

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Speaker 3: It was just a real bubbling time in Sydney for music.

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Speaker 3: Sow much we get paid for that. I wasn't getting

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Speaker 1: And all that.

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Speaker 3: But it did allow me to meet a lot of

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Speaker 1: And that's when wild FM came along.

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Speaker 3: In ninety six, I think it was, I was sixteen,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 3: So I did all the ads, I did all the

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Speaker 1: And you were just self taught for all this self

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from a while the fem I got signed with

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Speaker 3: And so I bought all the gear, mixes, all that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How long did you think it took you to learn

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Speaker 3: How long up with the DJing actually fell into it?

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Speaker 3: I didn't, actually I didn't actually, I just fell in.

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Speaker 3: I didn't aspire to DJ, it just it was just

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Speaker 3: And so I was doing house parties beforehand, just kmucking

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Speaker 1: Wow. So did you ever practice like you know what

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Speaker 2: How how would because I've I've practiced trying to be

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was something that I wanted to do

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Speaker 2: because when I was living in England, that was the thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've grew up with a lot of DJs

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Speaker 3: So I mean it's just I guess it's just learning

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever too late, Neil. It's never

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Speaker 1: Nah, I mean everyone everyone.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to do what you love doing,

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Speaker 1: Definitely, I think I get much of a fucking crowd.

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Speaker 3: Ye when you come to the events label come up

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Speaker 1: You get a crowd.

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Speaker 2: So at sixteen, you're there wild a fan. How long

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Speaker 3: You know, when you switch it on and it's going

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of the megamixes for those comps,

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Speaker 1: They they they sold like lots of units.

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Speaker 2: Did it really did it hit you how what you're

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Speaker 1: Like this was going to turn into like you you

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Speaker 3: You reckon ninety nine point three was probably the thing

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Speaker 3: that's for sure. Wild changed my life big time for

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Speaker 3: music that got me straight off the bat.

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Speaker 1: Mainstream, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And then from there, you know, you've got the label

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Speaker 2: I've noticed with you, like I can't remember the first

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Speaker 2: So going by going back to nineteen ninety six, you

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Speaker 1: No, not really, just thought.

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Speaker 3: Know, they were they were they were happy to help

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the feeling of having that on

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Speaker 1: Now we got streaming. You know, you've got to move

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Speaker 2: Last last Christmas I did I did a Christmas party

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Speaker 1: I I was just doing all movements. Nice man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's so much easier now, you know, we're lugging things around.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that because if you're going to four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first night you ever played a first night club?

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Speaker 2: How's Alex k Ever? How can I say this made

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Speaker 1: Have you ever met? Like a good question? Have you ever?

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Speaker 3: And then you go off and it's like I don't

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Speaker 3: That's happened. Yeah, but no, no, everyone makes mistakes regardless,

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Speaker 1: You have to yeh. But someone wouldn't notice if they

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Speaker 2: When you said you played at Roges that was your

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Speaker 3: It was off the chain, busy all the time, but

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Speaker 3: You know whoever went there, whoever's listening to this, who

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Speaker 1: It was amazing, Like you walk in.

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Speaker 3: You go down the stairs and you hear that and

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I loved it compared all right, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: But compared to DCMS, which one would you go with?

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Speaker 3: You go to different places all the time, end up

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Speaker 1: At the end of the night they're working at T too.

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Speaker 1: Come to T too. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know I'd go home, make a quick track, go

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Speaker 3: They go jump on, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: I remember.

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Speaker 2: I remember like back when I was in the doors,

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Speaker 3: So I remember that it was very very cut throat,

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Speaker 1: It was very hard to get in.

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Speaker 2: Working at Rows because you're their resident DJ. Were you

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Speaker 2: you have to see them first before doing that.

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Speaker 3: Look, there was there's obviously an unwritten law that you know,

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Speaker 2: You couldn't go to Roles and godseas you could, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't at the start because you know, if I'm

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to step on their toes.

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Speaker 1: No, no, you don't do that. You stay with who

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Speaker 1: you who you're loyal to.

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, that's in every facet of industry,

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Speaker 3: isn't it really?

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Speaker 1: You know, have you ever played a game venue that?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,801
Speaker 3: I was working on free FM for a while, which

443
00:19:10,961 --> 00:19:14,761
Speaker 3: was a station that was on the same frequency as

444
00:19:14,801 --> 00:19:19,521
Speaker 3: wild So because they broadcasted out of the same studios.

445
00:19:20,681 --> 00:19:23,321
Speaker 3: I do production and stuff for free FM, and some

446
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,161
Speaker 3: lovely people from their man as well which are still

447
00:19:25,201 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 3: keeping because.

448
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,081
Speaker 2: Ox Streets was known to be one of the biggest

449
00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,681
Speaker 2: game in lesbian streets.

450
00:19:30,681 --> 00:19:32,881
Speaker 3: For the matline soronic, isn't it? You got you got,

451
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,801
Speaker 3: you got, you got that? And then you had across

452
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 3: the road. You had all the heaviest of the underworld.

453
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: At my club. It's great, and they all were in

454
00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:47,161
Speaker 1: perfect harmony. Yeah it was. It did a little bit someone.

455
00:19:46,761 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, that's why I asked, because I just

456
00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 2: wondered if because you were all you were known to

457
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 2: be on street, would that did the advantation to come

458
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 2: and play any of their venues.

459
00:19:54,721 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 3: I didn't because obviously Rogues was Rogues and also a

460
00:19:59,681 --> 00:20:01,441
Speaker 3: lot of things move very quickly back then.

461
00:20:01,561 --> 00:20:04,321
Speaker 1: So like from from the Rogues era.

462
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: To about probably two thousand and three, maybe two thousand

463
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: and two, I was starting to go over to England.

464
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was with so Ian from Ultrabeat

465
00:20:11,721 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: actually got me over to do a couple of new

466
00:20:14,961 --> 00:20:17,041
Speaker 3: show and a few other shows over there, and it

467
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,241
Speaker 3: was like unbelievable. And then I came back and around

468
00:20:22,281 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: two thousand and three I got approached by who's one

469
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 3: of my best friends now, Carl, who owned the Pleasure

470
00:20:27,921 --> 00:20:31,321
Speaker 3: Rooms over there, and that's the whole English era, you know,

471
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: of moving over there. So I sort of had a

472
00:20:34,321 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 3: really really it felt really quick meal like it was

473
00:20:37,001 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 3: like you know, from seventeen to twenty three felt like

474
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,801
Speaker 3: a flash.

475
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,321
Speaker 2: But before you went to with the UK, did you

476
00:20:43,321 --> 00:20:45,761
Speaker 2: play DC's before you left, before you were did you

477
00:20:45,761 --> 00:20:48,561
Speaker 2: get I think I might have maybe done one gig

478
00:20:49,001 --> 00:20:52,521
Speaker 2: thanks to maybe Stevie, maybe just an as an honorary

479
00:20:52,521 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: thing for for whoever owned it at the time.

480
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,441
Speaker 1: Maybe it was John, I'm not sure. I can't remember

481
00:20:56,481 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 1: at the time, but mostly when you came there. It

482
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: was mostly when I came back. That's when it all

483
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,441
Speaker 1: started with the DC thing.

484
00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm being at Rogues and what other clubs on

485
00:21:06,921 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: that street do you reckon? There was besides the iconic

486
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: Robes and DC's that were were clubs that everyone wanted

487
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,401
Speaker 2: to go.

488
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: To because you had Envy, you had Cuba, you had Phoenix,

489
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,321
Speaker 3: any of them you play that I could have. I

490
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,201
Speaker 3: just didn't want to know. It was not not one too.

491
00:21:22,201 --> 00:21:24,001
Speaker 3: It's just time man, like I was doing. You know,

492
00:21:24,001 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: you gotta remember I was doing Wednesday nights Penrith. You know,

493
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 3: there was these live broadcasts with wild You're doing Wednesday

494
00:21:29,001 --> 00:21:32,561
Speaker 3: night Penrith, Thursday Night Temple at Oxtas Street. Fridays was

495
00:21:32,561 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: always busy, Saturdays was rogues, Sundays was something.

496
00:21:36,961 --> 00:21:38,801
Speaker 1: You know, there's no time for anything. How do you

497
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: fit it in? Bro?

498
00:21:48,241 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: The list is aren't like we were just talking this outside, Bro.

499
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,521
Speaker 1: Do you never get any time? No, that never ends.

500
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: So two thousand and.

501
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,681
Speaker 2: Four you went to you went to ye ye, yeah,

502
00:22:00,241 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: you went over to it might have been two thousand

503
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,441
Speaker 2: and three, Neil, was it possibly?

504
00:22:03,961 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: And you went over to the pool places.

505
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 2: You have my hometown, which I find really fucking weird

506
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,721
Speaker 2: the way you know you went to Liverpool because back then,

507
00:22:11,961 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: like to me, Liverpool from probably ninety ninety six to

508
00:22:17,521 --> 00:22:20,161
Speaker 2: probably two thousand and nine was probably one.

509
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,481
Speaker 3: Of the biggest cities in Europe to party act Bro

510
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,001
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I went over there and I was floored.

511
00:22:27,241 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: I could not believe. Every place you walked past was

512
00:22:30,281 --> 00:22:33,481
Speaker 3: like crank and energy. It was like before I Beefer

513
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,361
Speaker 3: was brought forward. Yeah, Liverpool was the place to be here.

514
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 3: It was man, it was it was magic. That's the

515
00:22:38,681 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: best word to describe it. You're walking down Slatter Street,

516
00:22:40,961 --> 00:22:42,721
Speaker 3: It's like people everywhere.

517
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,681
Speaker 1: Clubs crank and five to one.

518
00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: Cream Cream was opposite pleasure room, so like we used

519
00:22:50,681 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: to just go there and chill with whatever when they

520
00:22:52,961 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: had a night one.

521
00:22:54,481 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: It was another world.

522
00:22:55,561 --> 00:22:58,561
Speaker 3: So when I moved, Carl got us over to work

523
00:22:58,561 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: at the pleasure rooms and I loved it straight off

524
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: the bat. It was like home to me, you know,

525
00:23:05,201 --> 00:23:07,921
Speaker 3: your hometown. It was unbelievable now my second home.

526
00:23:08,921 --> 00:23:13,481
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, how can you compare Australia Sydney to Liverpool.

527
00:23:13,921 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me what's so different about it?

528
00:23:17,681 --> 00:23:20,321
Speaker 3: At that time there were less rules, so Sydney was

529
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: starting to bring in a lot of rules and whatever

530
00:23:23,321 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: regulations and Liverpool was still living how we lived in

531
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: the nineties. You know, it was just all about the music.

532
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,681
Speaker 3: It was all about having you know, fun.

533
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: It was amazing to me.

534
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: It was like every person would spend their wage from

535
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,441
Speaker 2: Thursday to Sunday, ongoing out.

536
00:23:38,681 --> 00:23:41,361
Speaker 3: I'd say, that's true. And you know the vibe was there.

537
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,561
Speaker 3: There was it was it was. It was magic now,

538
00:23:43,921 --> 00:23:46,881
Speaker 3: like the can't describe it any better. You know, it

539
00:23:46,921 --> 00:23:50,041
Speaker 3: was packed. I felt very very thankful.

540
00:23:49,681 --> 00:23:51,641
Speaker 1: To be there. I loved it off the bat.

541
00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 3: I love the people there, Lee, like you're talking about

542
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,841
Speaker 3: all the boys, like you know, Chris, Henry, all, all

543
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: of them. We had massive laughs. Man, it was it

544
00:23:58,721 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: was amazing. It was awesome.

545
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: So what was the venue that you played that I

546
00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:03,721
Speaker 1: was at Pleasure Rooms.

547
00:24:04,761 --> 00:24:07,321
Speaker 3: Pleasure Rooms was a big after hours nightclub, so it

548
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: started at midnight and went through till late so I

549
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: was just resident there. I got approached by a label

550
00:24:16,201 --> 00:24:18,241
Speaker 3: called All Around the World, which are very good friends

551
00:24:18,241 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 3: of mine, and they said, you know, do you want

552
00:24:20,921 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: to start doing to do an album with us? And

553
00:24:22,681 --> 00:24:25,521
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, for sure, and that's what started the

554
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: Ultimate Energy Series and from there it was NonStop after that.

555
00:24:30,681 --> 00:24:33,601
Speaker 3: It was like, did five or six albums with them.

556
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,921
Speaker 3: I think he had five gold album Yeah, we went unbelievable.

557
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 3: There was six hundred and six hundred and fifty thousand

558
00:24:39,921 --> 00:24:40,561
Speaker 3: units I Reckon.

559
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,041
Speaker 1: If you ask them it'd be more. Yeah, yeah, it was.

560
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,761
Speaker 1: I was crazy.

561
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: I went number one on all those albums pretty much

562
00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:48,641
Speaker 3: over there. This was the time when they was selling

563
00:24:48,681 --> 00:24:51,441
Speaker 3: CD's obviously right now, but yeah, and.

564
00:24:51,481 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: It was just a whirl winds time.

565
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,281
Speaker 3: Maybe I was in Liverpool for from two thousand I

566
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: Reckon from two thousand and three to two thousand and seven,

567
00:24:59,681 --> 00:25:01,761
Speaker 3: I reckon about that, and you.

568
00:25:01,721 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: Were permanent residents A yeah, I'd always do.

569
00:25:04,241 --> 00:25:06,961
Speaker 3: Without fail Saturday nights of Pleasure Rooms and every other gig,

570
00:25:07,001 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: whether it's Spain or wherever it was, was outside of that.

571
00:25:09,801 --> 00:25:12,321
Speaker 3: So I always make sure that you know Saturday nights

572
00:25:12,321 --> 00:25:15,761
Speaker 3: are with Carl because I love Carl and I love

573
00:25:15,801 --> 00:25:18,041
Speaker 3: the rooms and it was great, you know, That's why

574
00:25:18,041 --> 00:25:18,401
Speaker 3: I was there.

575
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,321
Speaker 1: Yeah, what made you come back? Though? Do you regret?

576
00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: Do you ever have my visa? No? I don't regret leaving.

577
00:25:23,921 --> 00:25:27,521
Speaker 1: It's this my visa. My Greek citizenship didn't come through.

578
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: My dad needed to send some original bertificate or saying.

579
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: And it was coming to the time when we were

580
00:25:32,481 --> 00:25:34,241
Speaker 3: sort of overstaying the visa, so I'm like, we've.

581
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Got to go.

582
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,041
Speaker 3: Actually came back because Dave Freeman had called me, came back,

583
00:25:39,281 --> 00:25:42,361
Speaker 3: put on Big Shot DCM there. That was massive night,

584
00:25:42,521 --> 00:25:44,841
Speaker 3: huge night. I still remember that night to this day.

585
00:25:45,041 --> 00:25:46,961
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? It was unbelievable.

586
00:25:47,201 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: It was sort of like more of a show you,

587
00:25:50,561 --> 00:25:52,001
Speaker 3: which is what I was doing in England at the

588
00:25:52,001 --> 00:25:53,761
Speaker 3: time too, So it was nice to come back to it.

589
00:25:54,521 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: I remember Freeman sometimes standing on the door with me

590
00:25:57,681 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: and he would talk about how clubs were overseas and

591
00:26:00,761 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: he was trying to change dcmso something like that.

592
00:26:02,921 --> 00:26:03,121
Speaker 1: Yeah.

593
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, from there, ended up doing events there with the boys,

594
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,361
Speaker 3: and we did that for a long time. We ran

595
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,921
Speaker 3: that We ran that place with or when George stepped out,

596
00:26:13,921 --> 00:26:15,121
Speaker 3: we ran that place for a long time.

597
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Man, maybe a decade i'd say, or eight years.

598
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,801
Speaker 2: Do you think you made you made your name more

599
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,601
Speaker 2: over there or did you think you made.

600
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: It here more? I don't know. I think both.

601
00:26:24,761 --> 00:26:29,041
Speaker 3: I think even in Spain and parts of Europe as well,

602
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,521
Speaker 3: it's still like that. You know, I still get, you know,

603
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: emails coming into since the kids, it's hard to go.

604
00:26:34,681 --> 00:26:39,281
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean I still think it's still

605
00:26:39,761 --> 00:26:40,721
Speaker 3: bubbling pretty hard.

606
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,361
Speaker 1: Were you were you when you were said the UK?

607
00:26:43,681 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: You single all the time.

608
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,041
Speaker 3: I was with ex that was like moved back there

609
00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: and so I moved over there.

610
00:26:49,521 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: And then it's kind of hard with travel and all that.

611
00:26:51,681 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you be on the road so many times,

612
00:26:53,921 --> 00:26:55,641
Speaker 2: as you said, you're you're from one city to.

613
00:26:55,561 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: Another city, said then order to jumping over to Spain.

614
00:26:58,721 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: I was blessed to have some wonderful, wonderful relationships, you

615
00:27:01,961 --> 00:27:02,241
Speaker 3: know what.

616
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:07,041
Speaker 1: Can we but you look like you know Tom Jones.

617
00:27:08,521 --> 00:27:10,801
Speaker 2: When you'll look like but when he performs, they throw

618
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,881
Speaker 2: their fucking underwear at him.

619
00:27:16,041 --> 00:27:17,281
Speaker 1: I don't understand.

620
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,721
Speaker 4: It, look like yeah, I mean, I don't get it.

621
00:27:22,801 --> 00:27:26,761
Speaker 4: But like look man, it's it's it's most definitely the music,

622
00:27:31,481 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: because that's.

623
00:27:31,921 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: How because I'm telling you, I've never witnessed so many

624
00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: people come around your DJ fucking move and set and

625
00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: fucking just worship somebody. And I've seen a lot of

626
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,321
Speaker 2: DJs perform, all right, a lot, you know what I mean. Yeah, okay,

627
00:27:45,321 --> 00:27:46,961
Speaker 2: in the UK you get that a lot. But they're

628
00:27:46,961 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: all dancing on they're off the pills and all like that.

629
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,001
Speaker 2: But these people are standing there eager to see you

630
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: still now and some of them are fucking like sixty

631
00:27:54,481 --> 00:27:57,401
Speaker 2: to fifty five, like you know, but they're still tear

632
00:27:57,481 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: it up.

633
00:28:00,481 --> 00:28:07,881
Speaker 3: But literally, like but it's amazing. It's amazing, man, And

634
00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:11,361
Speaker 3: like I don't take any of it for granted at

635
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: all at all, Like one, it's all it still amazes me.

636
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,681
Speaker 3: I just feel the music is strong. It affects people, man,

637
00:28:20,241 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: that's the that's the best way to describe it.

638
00:28:22,441 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, because I think what it is with people

639
00:28:24,921 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: and they come to see you is they bring back

640
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: fond memories of you back in the day when they were.

641
00:28:28,801 --> 00:28:31,281
Speaker 3: Good probably, and then you know, the beauty of it

642
00:28:31,321 --> 00:28:32,761
Speaker 3: is that their kids are coming out now.

643
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: Well that's that's the new generation. That's amazing too, and

644
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,761
Speaker 5: now following you. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's unbelievable. The

645
00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,121
Speaker 5: amount of kids that come up and say, like, my

646
00:28:41,201 --> 00:28:45,801
Speaker 5: mom or dad, you know, we're partying here there. It's like, man,

647
00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:48,281
Speaker 5: now we got brought up on it. And yeah, it is.

648
00:28:48,321 --> 00:28:50,841
Speaker 5: It's a cycle. It's a it's beautiful cycle. I don't

649
00:28:50,841 --> 00:28:51,881
Speaker 5: know if they gets it.

650
00:28:51,881 --> 00:28:53,641
Speaker 2: But when someone comes up to me and they go

651
00:28:54,081 --> 00:28:55,361
Speaker 2: and do you want to picture with me? Because they're

652
00:28:55,801 --> 00:28:57,921
Speaker 2: my mom used to go to d C's, and I'm

653
00:28:57,961 --> 00:28:59,681
Speaker 2: now standing next to someone who's eighteen, I feel like

654
00:28:59,841 --> 00:29:00,881
Speaker 2: this is not good taking.

655
00:29:00,721 --> 00:29:03,921
Speaker 1: A photo, Like it's not good, you know what I mean.

656
00:29:06,041 --> 00:29:08,841
Speaker 3: I think I think when you're the artist, it's sort

657
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,801
Speaker 3: of okay, but yeah, I get yah, I feel you

658
00:29:11,081 --> 00:29:13,161
Speaker 3: sometimes it's all good.

659
00:29:13,321 --> 00:29:15,641
Speaker 2: Does that when you're done the when you receive and

660
00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:17,561
Speaker 2: you've got to know that you've done the five gold

661
00:29:17,561 --> 00:29:20,361
Speaker 2: albums and it was one of the biggest selling.

662
00:29:20,841 --> 00:29:23,081
Speaker 1: Like, how does that hit you? Now?

663
00:29:23,321 --> 00:29:27,361
Speaker 3: It's a checkbox has ticked, that's for sure. It's wonderful

664
00:29:27,361 --> 00:29:29,841
Speaker 3: to see it, to have that experience, you know, I'd

665
00:29:29,881 --> 00:29:33,161
Speaker 3: never I never aspired to have all that. It was just,

666
00:29:33,241 --> 00:29:36,121
Speaker 3: you know, it just happened at the times. I am

667
00:29:36,121 --> 00:29:38,401
Speaker 3: a perfectionist. I feel that, like, you know, you make,

668
00:29:38,441 --> 00:29:41,401
Speaker 3: you make the craft, you do the music. However it goes,

669
00:29:41,441 --> 00:29:43,321
Speaker 3: it goes, it goes well, it goes well. If it's doesn't,

670
00:29:43,321 --> 00:29:46,401
Speaker 3: it doesn't, no no problem, let's go again. Yeah, you know,

671
00:29:46,841 --> 00:29:50,721
Speaker 3: I think that music you don't expect anything, and if

672
00:29:50,761 --> 00:29:52,081
Speaker 3: you make it, you make it.

673
00:29:52,881 --> 00:29:55,161
Speaker 6: Do you think you'd ever do it? Another Wild FM tour?

674
00:29:56,241 --> 00:29:58,081
Speaker 6: Oh look, I mean definitely. It'll be on the cards.

675
00:29:58,081 --> 00:30:01,161
Speaker 6: We we I mean me and Tommy my business partner.

676
00:30:01,161 --> 00:30:05,721
Speaker 6: We run the world reunions now also with mel mel see. Yeah,

677
00:30:05,801 --> 00:30:08,281
Speaker 6: so we've been doing that for a while now. We

678
00:30:08,321 --> 00:30:11,001
Speaker 6: started them up again around twenty sixteen or twenties. Yeah,

679
00:30:11,121 --> 00:30:13,121
Speaker 6: somewhere around there. There'll be more on the cards.

680
00:30:13,401 --> 00:30:15,481
Speaker 3: It's just hard to find time with you know, tours,

681
00:30:16,041 --> 00:30:21,681
Speaker 3: gigs all that. Kids, kids, kids, so.

682
00:30:21,601 --> 00:30:26,361
Speaker 2: Now looking now, looking back, you know, nowadays, I think

683
00:30:26,601 --> 00:30:30,121
Speaker 2: we've already gone to this question. But do you think

684
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:32,201
Speaker 2: you've made the right decision coming back from the UK when.

685
00:30:32,121 --> 00:30:34,801
Speaker 3: You did one hundred percent? What you do is what

686
00:30:34,801 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: you do, isn't it really? Like you know, if you're

687
00:30:36,241 --> 00:30:38,241
Speaker 3: going to do anything different, you would have done it. Yeah,

688
00:30:38,281 --> 00:30:41,641
Speaker 3: So you know, there's no regrets there. And Australia was,

689
00:30:42,281 --> 00:30:45,041
Speaker 3: you know, it was it was starting to pick up

690
00:30:45,041 --> 00:30:48,121
Speaker 3: again with the clubbing scene and all that. Business wise,

691
00:30:48,121 --> 00:30:50,001
Speaker 3: it probably would have been better to stay over there

692
00:30:50,241 --> 00:30:52,801
Speaker 3: as in the ease of it, but you know, no,

693
00:30:52,881 --> 00:30:55,241
Speaker 3: there were there were things happening back here that were good.

694
00:30:55,561 --> 00:30:57,641
Speaker 1: So coming back right now, now we can talk about it.

695
00:30:57,641 --> 00:30:58,361
Speaker 1: And I'm coming back.

696
00:30:58,521 --> 00:31:02,561
Speaker 2: You've been Freeman, Dave Freeman's been in your ear to

697
00:31:02,601 --> 00:31:07,161
Speaker 2: bring you back yep, to do temp at d CMS yep. Okay,

698
00:31:07,521 --> 00:31:10,921
Speaker 2: So when you left, you're a residence of Rogues, correct,

699
00:31:11,601 --> 00:31:13,401
Speaker 2: So when you've come back, have they tried to stat

700
00:31:13,441 --> 00:31:15,721
Speaker 2: you back to say you're coming or what's going on there?

701
00:31:15,801 --> 00:31:16,001
Speaker 1: Yeah?

702
00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:19,561
Speaker 3: So when I came back, Rogues was actually closed, Okay,

703
00:31:19,721 --> 00:31:24,441
Speaker 3: So it was a natural progression of of we're doing

704
00:31:24,441 --> 00:31:27,281
Speaker 3: it here. Now you know, and and we did that

705
00:31:27,321 --> 00:31:29,881
Speaker 3: for a long time. Then people remember when DC shut

706
00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:32,081
Speaker 3: down and went to u N Sydney. We were running

707
00:31:32,081 --> 00:31:32,881
Speaker 3: those events.

708
00:31:32,881 --> 00:31:34,961
Speaker 1: There was it exciting times.

709
00:31:34,521 --> 00:31:37,801
Speaker 2: It's a big on board with you know Freeman and

710
00:31:38,961 --> 00:31:39,721
Speaker 2: or was it?

711
00:31:39,801 --> 00:31:41,641
Speaker 1: Were you a bit skeptical if this is going to work?

712
00:31:41,841 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: The boys had told me that it was going to

713
00:31:43,761 --> 00:31:44,161
Speaker 1: be big.

714
00:31:44,441 --> 00:31:46,881
Speaker 3: The way that Dave was talking about it was, you know,

715
00:31:46,921 --> 00:31:49,321
Speaker 3: it was going to be a big night. When I

716
00:31:49,321 --> 00:31:50,801
Speaker 3: came back, I didn't know what to expect and it

717
00:31:50,881 --> 00:31:52,281
Speaker 3: ended up being huge.

718
00:31:52,361 --> 00:31:53,721
Speaker 1: But I had no idea. Man.

719
00:31:53,721 --> 00:31:55,761
Speaker 3: It was more about just you know, the first gig

720
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:59,121
Speaker 3: back from England and it ended up just being like

721
00:31:59,121 --> 00:32:01,441
Speaker 3: a full.

722
00:32:00,441 --> 00:32:00,881
Speaker 1: Full on.

723
00:32:04,401 --> 00:32:06,161
Speaker 2: The prior to this because now you were doing this

724
00:32:06,201 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: with Sunset Brothers. Ye, so prior to that. Did you

725
00:32:10,001 --> 00:32:11,001
Speaker 2: know the boys before we left?

726
00:32:11,081 --> 00:32:12,561
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, I've known them for a long time.

727
00:32:12,761 --> 00:32:16,761
Speaker 3: I wanted to actually I've always respected Wills and to

728
00:32:17,041 --> 00:32:19,921
Speaker 3: from back then. I asked Ari, Okay, listen, you got

729
00:32:19,921 --> 00:32:22,001
Speaker 3: to find this guy because he's a good He's good,

730
00:32:22,081 --> 00:32:23,841
Speaker 3: you know, and I wanted to put some stuff out

731
00:32:23,881 --> 00:32:27,481
Speaker 3: on my albums, which I did, and so Adriano found him.

732
00:32:27,961 --> 00:32:30,521
Speaker 1: He became. He worked at Rogues as well when I

733
00:32:30,641 --> 00:32:32,801
Speaker 1: when I left, which was great.

734
00:32:32,681 --> 00:32:37,041
Speaker 3: And from there we started doing Temple of Dance together

735
00:32:38,681 --> 00:32:41,001
Speaker 3: after that, so we took it to bigger venues and

736
00:32:41,041 --> 00:32:42,801
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff and yeah, there were good times.

737
00:32:42,841 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Man. So how long how long did did you say this?

738
00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:47,001
Speaker 2: You say that this is after it went to have Artuo,

739
00:32:47,041 --> 00:32:48,361
Speaker 2: didn't you you started doing.

740
00:32:48,881 --> 00:32:49,241
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

741
00:32:49,441 --> 00:32:52,681
Speaker 2: Okay, So I do want to talk about Ministry of

742
00:32:52,761 --> 00:32:57,401
Speaker 2: Sound because you did do briefly some mixes for Arsis.

743
00:32:57,681 --> 00:32:57,841
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:32:57,881 --> 00:32:59,601
Speaker 3: Man, I was working with when I was in England,

745
00:32:59,641 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: I was working with Ministry of fair Bit and let me.

746
00:33:01,441 --> 00:33:04,441
Speaker 2: See if I've got it right then that was a good.

747
00:33:03,881 --> 00:33:06,801
Speaker 3: I actually did one of Delta Goodam's first tracks. It

748
00:33:06,841 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: was called I Don't Care and literally yeah, produced one

749
00:33:09,761 --> 00:33:13,561
Speaker 3: of her first tracks. Oh wow, lady Gega. I did

750
00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:17,761
Speaker 3: Just Dance I think for I mixed Just Dance and

751
00:33:17,761 --> 00:33:19,801
Speaker 3: I think it came out on Alt Energy before the

752
00:33:19,841 --> 00:33:20,721
Speaker 3: actual single dropped.

753
00:33:20,801 --> 00:33:23,241
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that was cool. Wow.

754
00:33:23,361 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah black Eyed Peace, Yeah, done that too much, bro.

755
00:33:26,561 --> 00:33:28,121
Speaker 3: There's hundreds of ones, you know, but.

756
00:33:28,121 --> 00:33:30,881
Speaker 2: That's that's like, that's really fucking like when I seen

757
00:33:30,881 --> 00:33:32,841
Speaker 2: that that's that's awesome and you know what I mean.

758
00:33:33,201 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: So how long were you doing stuff like that?

759
00:33:35,401 --> 00:33:38,561
Speaker 3: Always always remixing all the time. So that was part

760
00:33:38,561 --> 00:33:40,081
Speaker 3: of the job too, Like you know, when you're over

761
00:33:40,081 --> 00:33:42,121
Speaker 3: there and Australia like tracks to do and you do it.

762
00:33:42,161 --> 00:33:43,121
Speaker 1: So they came and approached you.

763
00:33:43,241 --> 00:33:45,561
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they all, they all everyone, Everyone sort of

764
00:33:45,561 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: worked together. Yeah, and that was the beauty of the

765
00:33:47,721 --> 00:33:49,521
Speaker 3: scene over there at the time. You still don't do it,

766
00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:52,321
Speaker 3: you still you don't know. I'm more working on my

767
00:33:52,401 --> 00:33:55,161
Speaker 3: own stuff now. I mean, you know, if the labels

768
00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:56,841
Speaker 3: want to mix or whatever, I'll look at it, but

769
00:33:57,121 --> 00:33:59,081
Speaker 3: it's more I'm more focused on the new album at

770
00:33:59,081 --> 00:33:59,401
Speaker 3: the moment.

771
00:33:59,761 --> 00:34:03,361
Speaker 2: Okay, when you came back from the from the UK

772
00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:06,801
Speaker 2: and you came back to Sydney DC, this is this

773
00:34:06,881 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: is a question I want to know, Like I don't

774
00:34:08,561 --> 00:34:11,761
Speaker 2: even know what you were asking before you were playing venues,

775
00:34:11,801 --> 00:34:12,921
Speaker 2: but surely your fee went up.

776
00:34:13,401 --> 00:34:15,041
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

777
00:34:15,321 --> 00:34:17,401
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I get straight away when

778
00:34:17,481 --> 00:34:18,441
Speaker 2: your femous have gone up.

779
00:34:18,761 --> 00:34:20,921
Speaker 1: Well, actually it was like, I don't know DCS have

780
00:34:21,241 --> 00:34:21,721
Speaker 1: afforded you.

781
00:34:23,521 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: I think we did a door deal, really, I think so, yeah,

782
00:34:26,641 --> 00:34:27,881
Speaker 3: I think we did a door deal that night.

783
00:34:28,201 --> 00:34:30,681
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, we moved from.

784
00:34:30,641 --> 00:34:34,241
Speaker 3: Club fee to basically when I was running the events

785
00:34:34,281 --> 00:34:34,961
Speaker 3: or whatever, man.

786
00:34:34,801 --> 00:34:35,961
Speaker 1: We just take the door.

787
00:34:37,361 --> 00:34:41,361
Speaker 2: So okay, now you're moving on from d C's and

788
00:34:41,441 --> 00:34:43,401
Speaker 2: DC's is closed down. You went to Havana, you've done

789
00:34:43,401 --> 00:34:47,161
Speaker 2: things with Havana, Temple a dance was it was another

790
00:34:47,561 --> 00:34:50,601
Speaker 2: legacy that you've you've done. I've lost can with all

791
00:34:50,601 --> 00:34:54,401
Speaker 2: the legacies that you've fucking done. Like may if you

792
00:34:54,481 --> 00:34:55,961
Speaker 2: try to write a book, I don't know how many.

793
00:34:55,841 --> 00:34:58,161
Speaker 1: Fucking pages in this book. There'd be a lot of.

794
00:34:58,081 --> 00:34:59,761
Speaker 3: Pictures, a lot of pictures.

795
00:35:00,081 --> 00:35:03,601
Speaker 2: But I take my hat off to you because now

796
00:35:04,041 --> 00:35:05,801
Speaker 2: your journey is about.

797
00:35:05,601 --> 00:35:10,961
Speaker 3: Decadence, correct, So decadence started more now probably ten years ago,

798
00:35:11,001 --> 00:35:16,001
Speaker 3: i'd say, or eight years ago, and that's now taken

799
00:35:16,041 --> 00:35:19,681
Speaker 3: on from there. You've been to a few I think, yeah, yeah,

800
00:35:19,761 --> 00:35:22,601
Speaker 3: they're amazing events and yeah, like so that's me and

801
00:35:22,641 --> 00:35:25,281
Speaker 3: Tommy and we always just try and do something new

802
00:35:25,321 --> 00:35:27,761
Speaker 3: and new venues or whatever. We'll go back to the

803
00:35:27,801 --> 00:35:31,201
Speaker 3: ones that you know we visited before. It's an iconic

804
00:35:31,241 --> 00:35:32,561
Speaker 3: sort of event.

805
00:35:32,641 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Now, is that is that solely just for Alex and

806
00:35:37,001 --> 00:35:38,721
Speaker 2: Tommy or do you get o A dcs to come

807
00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:39,121
Speaker 2: on board.

808
00:35:39,281 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: No, We've got We've got a great, a great group

809
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:42,641
Speaker 3: of DJs.

810
00:35:42,681 --> 00:35:43,401
Speaker 1: We've got.

811
00:35:44,721 --> 00:35:47,561
Speaker 3: Romeo, Zach Scratch, We've got like a lot of the

812
00:35:47,601 --> 00:35:51,201
Speaker 3: young guys on board, which I deeply love these guys.

813
00:35:51,241 --> 00:35:54,361
Speaker 3: They're like, they're they're such nice and they're really really

814
00:35:54,441 --> 00:35:55,841
Speaker 3: humble people as well.

815
00:35:55,881 --> 00:35:58,201
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get their name out.

816
00:35:58,041 --> 00:36:00,001
Speaker 3: There as well with that because they're just so they're

817
00:36:00,041 --> 00:36:02,721
Speaker 3: so brilliant and yeah, man, and then obviously I'll work

818
00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:05,561
Speaker 3: and you know, we've got Tommy there sometimes use Ksey

819
00:36:05,641 --> 00:36:10,121
Speaker 3: b S, Daves, Rats, you know, Charlie Dave, Austin, Nick Nova.

820
00:36:10,161 --> 00:36:12,801
Speaker 1: Drew, all the boys. Yeah, and at the moment you're

821
00:36:12,841 --> 00:36:14,321
Speaker 1: doing a tour all over Australia.

822
00:36:14,361 --> 00:36:16,361
Speaker 3: Correct at the moment doing the Legacy to us, So

823
00:36:16,401 --> 00:36:17,961
Speaker 3: that's from the basically Legacy.

824
00:36:18,081 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: The Legacy album.

825
00:36:19,241 --> 00:36:21,801
Speaker 3: Was the end of an era for me, of that

826
00:36:21,921 --> 00:36:24,761
Speaker 3: of that of those songs, and then moving forward is

827
00:36:24,801 --> 00:36:25,521
Speaker 3: all the new stuff.

828
00:36:25,961 --> 00:36:28,041
Speaker 1: So can you believe that you've been in the industry

829
00:36:28,081 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: for twenty five years? No? No, I still feel twenty one.

830
00:36:30,561 --> 00:36:31,801
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, like it's.

831
00:36:31,681 --> 00:36:34,201
Speaker 2: A long time and to still be like up there

832
00:36:34,241 --> 00:36:37,161
Speaker 2: as a number one DJ, you know, for people.

833
00:36:36,881 --> 00:36:39,441
Speaker 3: And thanks No, it's mass unbelievable.

834
00:36:40,041 --> 00:36:42,681
Speaker 1: I don't know. Every day is it's weird. I don't know,

835
00:36:42,721 --> 00:36:43,401
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

836
00:36:43,641 --> 00:36:47,321
Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about going off a little bit

837
00:36:47,361 --> 00:36:49,601
Speaker 2: at the moment, and we'll talk about what happened to

838
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:53,841
Speaker 2: the DJ scene over Covid. I'd like to know how

839
00:36:53,881 --> 00:36:56,161
Speaker 2: you said how you survived, because there's a lot of

840
00:36:56,161 --> 00:36:59,041
Speaker 2: things that I haven't brought up about DJs when they've

841
00:36:59,041 --> 00:37:01,201
Speaker 2: come on the show, because at the end of the day,

842
00:37:01,241 --> 00:37:03,281
Speaker 2: you lift your weekends and when you can't get out.

843
00:37:03,641 --> 00:37:04,841
Speaker 1: I want to know about how did you.

844
00:37:04,841 --> 00:37:08,281
Speaker 3: Shall like this through that Covid foot Neil Man I

845
00:37:09,161 --> 00:37:13,361
Speaker 3: off the bat. I was skeptical and against it from

846
00:37:13,401 --> 00:37:16,241
Speaker 3: the start of this whole thing. Everyone around me and

847
00:37:16,281 --> 00:37:19,721
Speaker 3: everyone and beyond actually would know that it was. It

848
00:37:19,761 --> 00:37:22,401
Speaker 3: was terrible for us, especially in the entertainment industry. It

849
00:37:22,441 --> 00:37:25,161
Speaker 3: was terrible because you know, while all the traders were

850
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:27,561
Speaker 3: going out doing their thing, we had nothing coming in

851
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,041
Speaker 3: and there were no subsidies whatever.

852
00:37:31,121 --> 00:37:32,361
Speaker 1: We you know, I just had the copper.

853
00:37:33,161 --> 00:37:37,001
Speaker 3: My wife got terminated from her job for not taking

854
00:37:37,001 --> 00:37:37,761
Speaker 3: that rubbish.

855
00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:41,361
Speaker 1: How did you what were you doing well. I had, I.

856
00:37:41,281 --> 00:37:44,761
Speaker 3: Had some savings which had got us through. But like

857
00:37:44,841 --> 00:37:47,641
Speaker 3: it was, you know, you're talking two years of nothing,

858
00:37:47,841 --> 00:37:51,841
Speaker 3: especially after I just had my son, basically just bought

859
00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:55,761
Speaker 3: the house, and this all goes on and it's like, you.

860
00:37:55,721 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Know, all right, the sy op was real.

861
00:37:59,081 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: The narrative was drummed into everyone's head NonStop, and it's

862
00:38:02,521 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: just like you know, and I was just an outcrus man.

863
00:38:05,481 --> 00:38:08,481
Speaker 3: Like I remember going down to the local because we

864
00:38:08,521 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: moved down to Woollongong just before that. I went down

865
00:38:11,481 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: to the local coffee shop. We were able to sit

866
00:38:16,521 --> 00:38:18,161
Speaker 3: out the back, were able to sit at the back,

867
00:38:18,201 --> 00:38:21,481
Speaker 3: take it easy anyway. But through that, but through that

868
00:38:21,561 --> 00:38:24,481
Speaker 3: I met a lot of people, you know, like Romeo

869
00:38:24,521 --> 00:38:27,481
Speaker 3: George's and loads and loads of people from them, from

870
00:38:27,561 --> 00:38:30,361
Speaker 3: the movement that I'm actually really good friends with today.

871
00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:33,681
Speaker 1: You know. But what did you do to get by?

872
00:38:33,761 --> 00:38:37,921
Speaker 2: Did did you just start recording more stuff in your studio?

873
00:38:38,001 --> 00:38:39,361
Speaker 1: Did you did you get by by just.

874
00:38:39,321 --> 00:38:43,001
Speaker 2: Playing music to try and or think about, Okay, when

875
00:38:43,281 --> 00:38:45,121
Speaker 2: the doors do open, we can go back out there.

876
00:38:45,561 --> 00:38:47,121
Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do. How did you

877
00:38:47,161 --> 00:38:49,721
Speaker 1: keep your mind from just being I think it.

878
00:38:49,721 --> 00:38:53,441
Speaker 3: Was obsessed with the whole freedom thing, so I didn't.

879
00:38:53,881 --> 00:38:56,561
Speaker 3: Music took a back backstage for me at that point,

880
00:38:56,681 --> 00:39:01,201
Speaker 3: and it really awokened me to how how malleable the

881
00:39:01,481 --> 00:39:04,761
Speaker 3: human population's brains are really, And it actually freaks me

882
00:39:04,801 --> 00:39:06,921
Speaker 3: out that, you know, you've got everyone here now all

883
00:39:06,921 --> 00:39:08,761
Speaker 3: of a sudden now going like, oh, we'll never let

884
00:39:08,761 --> 00:39:10,681
Speaker 3: that happen again, happen again, but you know, they are

885
00:39:10,761 --> 00:39:11,601
Speaker 3: letting it happen again.

886
00:39:12,321 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: This is the thing. Everyone's in debt.

887
00:39:14,001 --> 00:39:15,801
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, you know, they want to live their life,

888
00:39:15,801 --> 00:39:18,601
Speaker 3: they want to keep the roof over their kids' heads.

889
00:39:19,441 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: They don't have time for this shit, you know.

890
00:39:21,801 --> 00:39:24,241
Speaker 3: So although they may say no now, we're not going

891
00:39:24,321 --> 00:39:26,841
Speaker 3: to stand for it, if push comes to shove, will

892
00:39:26,881 --> 00:39:28,761
Speaker 3: they will they will they say no.

893
00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:30,081
Speaker 1: You know.

894
00:39:31,241 --> 00:39:34,401
Speaker 3: So I'm not really convinced right now. I think that

895
00:39:34,441 --> 00:39:36,561
Speaker 3: we need to have a bit of a moral awakening

896
00:39:36,601 --> 00:39:39,121
Speaker 3: to what's actually going on. I think people need to

897
00:39:39,161 --> 00:39:42,801
Speaker 3: actually take seriously the lies.

898
00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:46,441
Speaker 1: And the manipulation that's going on in power.

899
00:39:47,801 --> 00:39:50,481
Speaker 3: Otherwise we're going down a trajectory for our kids that

900
00:39:50,881 --> 00:39:52,601
Speaker 3: is not not good.

901
00:39:52,801 --> 00:39:55,521
Speaker 2: Did you think that your DJing days were over after

902
00:39:55,841 --> 00:39:57,241
Speaker 2: when this was going on did you think fucking no

903
00:39:57,281 --> 00:39:58,161
Speaker 2: one want to DJ again?

904
00:39:59,201 --> 00:40:03,321
Speaker 3: Well, what it did do to me was actually gravitate

905
00:40:03,361 --> 00:40:08,201
Speaker 3: towards artists that thought thought similar to me. And I

906
00:40:08,201 --> 00:40:09,761
Speaker 3: looked at a lot of artists that I actually looked

907
00:40:09,841 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: up to or respected before just thinking like, no way

908
00:40:13,321 --> 00:40:17,281
Speaker 3: a serious like he really liked that, you know, I

909
00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:20,321
Speaker 3: mean I thought that music we were the you know,

910
00:40:20,481 --> 00:40:23,801
Speaker 3: the freedom fighters, the whole anti establishment thing. Well, how

911
00:40:23,841 --> 00:40:27,881
Speaker 3: wrong was I you know, And yeah, it just didn't

912
00:40:27,881 --> 00:40:30,401
Speaker 3: make sense to me. It's still happening to this day, Neil.

913
00:40:30,481 --> 00:40:34,681
Speaker 3: There's every every narrative they throw at you is it's

914
00:40:34,721 --> 00:40:37,081
Speaker 3: all just it's all just my high mind.

915
00:40:37,721 --> 00:40:39,441
Speaker 1: It's just no one can see it.

916
00:40:39,441 --> 00:40:41,761
Speaker 3: I don't understand how we're even at this point in

917
00:40:41,841 --> 00:40:45,361
Speaker 3: government now where you know they're bringing in this they're.

918
00:40:45,201 --> 00:40:46,161
Speaker 1: Bringing in all this stuff.

919
00:40:46,241 --> 00:40:48,761
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, like I think that there should

920
00:40:48,761 --> 00:40:53,801
Speaker 3: be maybe safeguards for obviously youth, but this is just

921
00:40:53,881 --> 00:40:57,081
Speaker 3: leading to something else. And you know, all these bills

922
00:40:57,081 --> 00:41:00,001
Speaker 3: they're bringing in Parliament that you know, no one knows about,

923
00:41:00,081 --> 00:41:03,001
Speaker 3: like you know, these health bills and these agendas and

924
00:41:03,001 --> 00:41:03,761
Speaker 3: stuff that's going on.

925
00:41:03,801 --> 00:41:05,761
Speaker 1: I mean, could talk it all day.

926
00:41:06,001 --> 00:41:08,401
Speaker 3: No one's talking about it, and everyone's letting it happen,

927
00:41:08,641 --> 00:41:13,641
Speaker 3: you know, So wake the funk up from that because

928
00:41:13,641 --> 00:41:14,201
Speaker 3: you brought.

929
00:41:14,041 --> 00:41:17,081
Speaker 1: It up about, you know, the time with your wife

930
00:41:17,121 --> 00:41:20,681
Speaker 1: there too. When did you meet your wife? How did

931
00:41:20,761 --> 00:41:21,121
Speaker 1: we were?

932
00:41:21,281 --> 00:41:25,281
Speaker 3: I was she was working at a club that my

933
00:41:25,481 --> 00:41:27,321
Speaker 3: friend had opened, and.

934
00:41:27,241 --> 00:41:29,761
Speaker 1: She was born in the bar. You went to the

935
00:41:29,801 --> 00:41:30,481
Speaker 1: bar to fuck.

936
00:41:34,761 --> 00:41:38,001
Speaker 3: It's amazing, nah, I love it a before. Now I've

937
00:41:38,041 --> 00:41:40,841
Speaker 3: been a while now, yeah, many many years and kids,

938
00:41:41,201 --> 00:41:44,081
Speaker 3: got three kids, and I've got a beautiful boy. Sashaly's

939
00:41:44,161 --> 00:41:47,321
Speaker 3: five and twin girls two and a half there going

940
00:41:47,361 --> 00:41:47,881
Speaker 3: on twelve.

941
00:41:49,161 --> 00:41:49,961
Speaker 1: She must be.

942
00:41:49,961 --> 00:41:53,681
Speaker 2: Very patient with you because of the fact that you

943
00:41:53,721 --> 00:41:56,841
Speaker 2: know every eventually every like I.

944
00:41:56,841 --> 00:41:58,401
Speaker 1: Know how hard it is to get and touch at you,

945
00:41:58,401 --> 00:41:58,601
Speaker 1: you know.

946
00:41:58,561 --> 00:42:00,401
Speaker 2: What I mean, Like it's fucking like I bang my

947
00:42:00,401 --> 00:42:02,521
Speaker 2: head on the fucking wall, think of where the fuck

948
00:42:02,601 --> 00:42:02,801
Speaker 2: is STU?

949
00:42:03,401 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Sorry? Man? Which is fine.

950
00:42:05,281 --> 00:42:07,441
Speaker 2: I get it now, because you know, I've got to

951
00:42:07,441 --> 00:42:08,961
Speaker 2: know you and how you are now and all like that.

952
00:42:09,041 --> 00:42:11,041
Speaker 1: So I take it with a pinch of salt. But

953
00:42:11,801 --> 00:42:14,561
Speaker 1: she must be your best friend more than just your wife, bro,

954
00:42:14,681 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: She's my best friend. I love her so much.

955
00:42:17,561 --> 00:42:19,521
Speaker 3: She stayed with me through thick and Thin man and

956
00:42:20,121 --> 00:42:22,601
Speaker 3: I won the Jackpop there. Yeah, I think that the

957
00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:25,601
Speaker 3: best kind of relationship is a kind of a person

958
00:42:25,601 --> 00:42:28,121
Speaker 3: that doesn't try to change you. Yeah, that's probably the

959
00:42:28,481 --> 00:42:31,361
Speaker 3: you know, the best advice I can give. Also, if

960
00:42:31,361 --> 00:42:37,401
Speaker 3: there's anyone listening who is skeptical about having kids or whatever, do.

961
00:42:37,401 --> 00:42:38,641
Speaker 1: It now, do it early.

962
00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: I wish I did it younger because it's the best

963
00:42:41,441 --> 00:42:45,001
Speaker 3: thing ever. Although your time is like completely you know

964
00:42:45,041 --> 00:42:49,161
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's it's haywire. Yeah, it adds so

965
00:42:49,321 --> 00:42:52,281
Speaker 3: much joy to your life that it's it's unspeakable.

966
00:42:52,481 --> 00:42:53,881
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just live for them.

967
00:42:54,201 --> 00:42:57,601
Speaker 2: Like like if anyone wants to know what Alex is like,

968
00:42:57,601 --> 00:43:03,001
Speaker 2: like he's in a studio holding two babies and one

969
00:43:03,121 --> 00:43:05,001
Speaker 2: arm is Vista do in the fucking mixing and the

970
00:43:05,081 --> 00:43:06,201
Speaker 2: foking studio.

971
00:43:07,481 --> 00:43:09,121
Speaker 1: And the other thoughts? Do in the fing washing down

972
00:43:09,161 --> 00:43:09,881
Speaker 1: the sink.

973
00:43:11,841 --> 00:43:15,801
Speaker 3: My son, who's unscrewing my you know, the hardware pull

974
00:43:15,841 --> 00:43:18,041
Speaker 3: taken out, all the circuits and stuff.

975
00:43:18,041 --> 00:43:20,881
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. He's right into that at the fire. He's unbelievable.

976
00:43:20,961 --> 00:43:23,841
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's got and my mate feel, my mate

977
00:43:23,841 --> 00:43:27,601
Speaker 3: feel got him a actual boshah he won't take toy tools,

978
00:43:28,001 --> 00:43:29,121
Speaker 3: so he has to have real tools.

979
00:43:29,441 --> 00:43:30,561
Speaker 1: So he's just undoing everything.

980
00:43:30,761 --> 00:43:34,641
Speaker 3: I don't have a sliding handle on my door.

981
00:43:34,721 --> 00:43:37,761
Speaker 1: I don't have half my equipment anymore. My keyboards have

982
00:43:37,801 --> 00:43:41,801
Speaker 1: been taken apart. Does your kids know who you are?

983
00:43:41,921 --> 00:43:42,881
Speaker 1: No idea.

984
00:43:43,201 --> 00:43:45,121
Speaker 3: He knows that I get on stage, and he knows

985
00:43:45,161 --> 00:43:47,241
Speaker 3: that I have a lot of friends. That's what he is.

986
00:43:48,361 --> 00:43:51,561
Speaker 3: That do you know everyone? I'm like, well, yeah, you

987
00:43:51,601 --> 00:43:54,321
Speaker 3: know some Yeah, they don't get it. They just think

988
00:43:54,361 --> 00:43:55,361
Speaker 3: that does he?

989
00:43:55,481 --> 00:43:59,361
Speaker 1: Does? He your music? The ever listened loves it? Does

990
00:43:59,361 --> 00:44:01,601
Speaker 1: you know it's yours? Yeah, they know it's mine.

991
00:44:01,721 --> 00:44:03,961
Speaker 3: They don't understand why it's mine or what it is,

992
00:44:04,001 --> 00:44:06,321
Speaker 3: but they yeah, they know they love it.

993
00:44:06,401 --> 00:44:07,841
Speaker 1: But how is it going to.

994
00:44:07,841 --> 00:44:10,401
Speaker 2: Be when when he gets that age and he realizes

995
00:44:10,441 --> 00:44:11,201
Speaker 2: who his dad is.

996
00:44:12,161 --> 00:44:13,761
Speaker 3: Well, he's going to hate it because I'm going to

997
00:44:13,841 --> 00:44:15,241
Speaker 3: be knowing all the guards and the club.

998
00:44:17,161 --> 00:44:23,761
Speaker 1: He's not gonna especially my daughters a call. And so

999
00:44:24,201 --> 00:44:27,801
Speaker 1: what is it going?

1000
00:44:28,281 --> 00:44:30,601
Speaker 3: I like it, your daughters and all that, the front

1001
00:44:30,641 --> 00:44:32,721
Speaker 3: of the stage and you play us Christ?

1002
00:44:35,441 --> 00:44:38,161
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Is your is your missus your biggest supporter?

1003
00:44:38,241 --> 00:44:39,761
Speaker 1: You reckon? I'd say she is I don't know.

1004
00:44:39,841 --> 00:44:43,241
Speaker 3: I think I think we we just let each other

1005
00:44:43,801 --> 00:44:47,601
Speaker 3: do our things and we have a great, great family life.

1006
00:44:47,801 --> 00:44:49,721
Speaker 1: They're very blessed, man, very blessed with that.

1007
00:44:50,321 --> 00:44:53,561
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed sometimes, especially because I've been coming around

1008
00:44:53,601 --> 00:44:55,921
Speaker 2: with you now for for your tour and your legacy thing.

1009
00:44:56,321 --> 00:44:59,881
Speaker 2: And I know you say it's just another gig, but

1010
00:44:59,921 --> 00:45:02,081
Speaker 2: you take a lot on your shoulders, a lot.

1011
00:45:03,361 --> 00:45:06,281
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be an unnormal, it would be unnatural

1012
00:45:06,321 --> 00:45:09,961
Speaker 3: not to have a little bit of butterflies. Yeah, I

1013
00:45:09,961 --> 00:45:16,081
Speaker 3: wouldn't say stress. I think that the stage is definitely

1014
00:45:16,121 --> 00:45:16,881
Speaker 3: my happy place.

1015
00:45:18,401 --> 00:45:20,161
Speaker 1: I feel like you still feel you get loose on

1016
00:45:20,201 --> 00:45:20,921
Speaker 1: that stage.

1017
00:45:21,521 --> 00:45:25,281
Speaker 3: It's totally totally takes your way. It's basically you as well.

1018
00:45:25,321 --> 00:45:28,041
Speaker 3: Just yeah, it's it's it literally is like that.

1019
00:45:28,241 --> 00:45:30,361
Speaker 2: So you've still got you've still got them vibes from

1020
00:45:30,321 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: when you first started, that you still enjoy playing.

1021
00:45:32,561 --> 00:45:33,681
Speaker 1: I do love playing, man.

1022
00:45:34,001 --> 00:45:36,361
Speaker 3: I still enjoy all the events and as much as

1023
00:45:36,361 --> 00:45:38,201
Speaker 3: I did and when I was seventeen.

1024
00:45:38,481 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to.

1025
00:45:39,401 --> 00:45:42,721
Speaker 3: Be and to be honest, Neil, like, how how wonderful

1026
00:45:42,801 --> 00:45:45,201
Speaker 3: to be able to do it at this age. That's

1027
00:45:45,321 --> 00:45:48,881
Speaker 3: that's unbelievable in my eyes. Like, you know, I never

1028
00:45:49,081 --> 00:45:53,401
Speaker 3: I never expected to continue to this to this point.

1029
00:45:53,881 --> 00:45:58,361
Speaker 2: You know, no one, no one has done what you've

1030
00:45:58,401 --> 00:46:01,401
Speaker 2: done for the industry, not just for yourself, but for

1031
00:46:01,481 --> 00:46:01,961
Speaker 2: the industry.

1032
00:46:02,041 --> 00:46:06,281
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's without going on social media.

1033
00:46:06,521 --> 00:46:09,921
Speaker 2: Yes, let's let's talk about your album, okay, because I

1034
00:46:09,961 --> 00:46:12,561
Speaker 2: know it's taking you a long time to do this,

1035
00:46:13,681 --> 00:46:16,201
Speaker 2: you know, and I've been there for some of it, fucking.

1036
00:46:16,601 --> 00:46:19,081
Speaker 1: Yeah, but tell me how that's going on, you know.

1037
00:46:20,241 --> 00:46:23,241
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm actually in the process of sort of

1038
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:25,441
Speaker 3: rebuilding the studio, so it's sort of like gone and

1039
00:46:25,441 --> 00:46:28,041
Speaker 3: off at the moment. But I hopefully by March we'll

1040
00:46:28,081 --> 00:46:29,721
Speaker 3: have a new new album out.

1041
00:46:29,801 --> 00:46:30,801
Speaker 1: I'll have a new album out.

1042
00:46:31,321 --> 00:46:33,761
Speaker 3: And yeah, like I said, the Legacy album that just

1043
00:46:33,801 --> 00:46:36,361
Speaker 3: got released is just a basically closure to the older,

1044
00:46:36,641 --> 00:46:37,601
Speaker 3: older stuff.

1045
00:46:38,161 --> 00:46:41,681
Speaker 1: That went that went kind of very much viral within

1046
00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:44,561
Speaker 1: a few hours. Yeah, it was crazy. We we was

1047
00:46:44,641 --> 00:46:46,921
Speaker 1: remember being and you told me that yeah, yeah.

1048
00:46:46,801 --> 00:46:50,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were looking at the at the ticks over

1049
00:46:50,281 --> 00:46:53,841
Speaker 3: it was it went up to like what was it five? Yeah,

1050
00:46:54,281 --> 00:46:57,281
Speaker 3: So I mean that's that's a beauty of streaming too.

1051
00:46:57,481 --> 00:47:00,361
Speaker 2: Tell me tell me about that Legacy album, Like, what

1052
00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:03,281
Speaker 2: did you want to bring to this album to just

1053
00:47:03,321 --> 00:47:08,081
Speaker 2: basically all the old classics that over the past decades

1054
00:47:08,521 --> 00:47:11,521
Speaker 2: all in one place, because what happens is sometimes labels

1055
00:47:11,561 --> 00:47:14,321
Speaker 2: will take off a track, it then takes.

1056
00:47:14,121 --> 00:47:16,161
Speaker 3: Down the album. You've got to redo it or get

1057
00:47:16,161 --> 00:47:18,401
Speaker 3: another thing up to get it back up. So this

1058
00:47:18,601 --> 00:47:21,401
Speaker 3: just is all in one place, So that's why I

1059
00:47:21,441 --> 00:47:25,721
Speaker 3: did it. It was also featuring artists that I've worked

1060
00:47:25,721 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: with in the past on it as well, so there's

1061
00:47:28,081 --> 00:47:29,721
Speaker 3: a lot of artists I've worked with on there as well.

1062
00:47:29,721 --> 00:47:32,001
Speaker 1: How I'm going to make it this it was about a.

1063
00:47:32,041 --> 00:47:34,721
Speaker 3: Year and a half on and off, so yeah, I

1064
00:47:34,721 --> 00:47:36,521
Speaker 3: could have done it in two months with our kids.

1065
00:47:36,521 --> 00:47:45,601
Speaker 3: But but you're happy with it. You're happy with absolutely absolutely.

1066
00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:47,081
Speaker 3: There would have been some more tracks I would have

1067
00:47:47,081 --> 00:47:48,241
Speaker 3: liked to add, but just no time.

1068
00:47:48,441 --> 00:47:51,761
Speaker 2: You still get goosebumps all the time what you've done.

1069
00:47:53,281 --> 00:47:55,441
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah times, you know, like you take

1070
00:47:55,481 --> 00:47:56,681
Speaker 3: a break and then you come back. It's one of

1071
00:47:56,721 --> 00:47:59,281
Speaker 3: those sounds man, that just seems to stand the test

1072
00:47:59,321 --> 00:48:02,201
Speaker 3: of time. So you might take a break and then

1073
00:48:02,241 --> 00:48:04,241
Speaker 3: you'll come back and go yeah man, you.

1074
00:48:04,201 --> 00:48:08,161
Speaker 2: Know because like like twenty six years and like walking

1075
00:48:08,201 --> 00:48:10,561
Speaker 2: on stage and you're You're like, what what's the feeling

1076
00:48:10,601 --> 00:48:13,441
Speaker 2: when you walk on and you just see you know,

1077
00:48:13,481 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: you won't see everybody because the lights and it's dark

1078
00:48:15,481 --> 00:48:17,401
Speaker 2: and it's dim. But then when you when you see

1079
00:48:17,441 --> 00:48:19,681
Speaker 2: and it and you look up and you see everyone

1080
00:48:19,761 --> 00:48:20,481
Speaker 2: just dancing to.

1081
00:48:20,481 --> 00:48:23,561
Speaker 1: Your music and you're set, what is that feeling like?

1082
00:48:24,121 --> 00:48:28,721
Speaker 3: It's an incredible feeling, man, It never changes. It's it's

1083
00:48:28,881 --> 00:48:33,081
Speaker 3: it's a feeling of total joy. Yeah, you know, and

1084
00:48:33,601 --> 00:48:35,001
Speaker 3: it always stays the same.

1085
00:48:34,921 --> 00:48:36,721
Speaker 2: Because I like, as I said to you, like it

1086
00:48:36,761 --> 00:48:40,361
Speaker 2: to me, And I know you don't like you don't

1087
00:48:40,401 --> 00:48:42,241
Speaker 2: like to be praised too much, but to me.

1088
00:48:43,081 --> 00:48:46,561
Speaker 1: You are. You do come across that song. God is

1089
00:48:46,561 --> 00:48:48,841
Speaker 1: a DJ. That's your that's your fucking song.

1090
00:48:48,881 --> 00:48:49,041
Speaker 2: Bro.

1091
00:48:50,641 --> 00:48:56,241
Speaker 1: They just got the name wrong. Man. Man, that's funny.

1092
00:48:56,521 --> 00:49:01,321
Speaker 1: So what's what's next for Alex K? New album? Yeah?

1093
00:49:01,521 --> 00:49:04,161
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely a new album this year coming next year

1094
00:49:04,201 --> 00:49:08,321
Speaker 3: coming out. We've got the Legacy tour of finishing up

1095
00:49:08,921 --> 00:49:13,521
Speaker 3: in January and some big events next year. Decadence will

1096
00:49:13,521 --> 00:49:16,281
Speaker 3: return in April. Just keep going.

1097
00:49:16,721 --> 00:49:18,321
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to give you some questions.

1098
00:49:18,321 --> 00:49:21,121
Speaker 2: Now, what is the best festival or event that you've

1099
00:49:21,121 --> 00:49:22,041
Speaker 2: ever performed.

1100
00:49:21,721 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: At I'll Give three Neil, I got the Scouse Nation

1101
00:49:25,761 --> 00:49:28,241
Speaker 3: me and Carl did over in England was amazing.

1102
00:49:28,521 --> 00:49:28,961
Speaker 1: I love that.

1103
00:49:29,841 --> 00:49:33,601
Speaker 3: I love Clubland Tour. Yep, that's overseas. I'd have to

1104
00:49:33,601 --> 00:49:37,561
Speaker 3: say in Sydney you can't go past decadence, like it's

1105
00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:40,161
Speaker 3: just incredible. But the one that stole the show was

1106
00:49:40,201 --> 00:49:46,521
Speaker 3: the Entertainment Center show. That just felt incredible. So there's loads.

1107
00:49:46,561 --> 00:49:48,921
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's hard to pin your home now.

1108
00:49:49,481 --> 00:49:52,521
Speaker 3: I do now, Yeah, I do now, Yeah, I am.

1109
00:49:52,601 --> 00:49:55,761
Speaker 3: I feel it's one of those places you feel like

1110
00:49:55,961 --> 00:49:59,361
Speaker 3: you're on holiday every day. You move from here and

1111
00:49:59,401 --> 00:50:01,441
Speaker 3: it's like you actually do you feel like you're on

1112
00:50:01,481 --> 00:50:02,161
Speaker 3: holiday every day?

1113
00:50:02,161 --> 00:50:02,721
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1114
00:50:02,841 --> 00:50:06,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's your hometown too, it's just somewhat

1115
00:50:07,001 --> 00:50:07,401
Speaker 3: on the loan.

1116
00:50:11,321 --> 00:50:16,761
Speaker 7: What do you think makes your sound unique? Well, it's

1117
00:50:16,441 --> 00:50:18,841
Speaker 7: it is that sound. I was going through some of

1118
00:50:18,881 --> 00:50:20,801
Speaker 7: my keyboards. I had this sample keyboards. It was a

1119
00:50:20,961 --> 00:50:23,441
Speaker 7: W thirty and I've still got it to this day. Actually, man,

1120
00:50:23,481 --> 00:50:25,761
Speaker 7: I've still got the disc that this sample was on.

1121
00:50:26,121 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: It was this clunky pan style sound and I looked

1122
00:50:30,961 --> 00:50:32,601
Speaker 3: and I played it on the keyboard and I played

1123
00:50:32,641 --> 00:50:34,681
Speaker 3: it low and I'm like, that's it.

1124
00:50:35,881 --> 00:50:38,161
Speaker 1: That's the one. It was my and I took it

1125
00:50:38,521 --> 00:50:40,121
Speaker 1: changed around a bit, did it?

1126
00:50:40,641 --> 00:50:43,561
Speaker 3: And all my club bases, all those basses that you

1127
00:50:43,641 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: know me for, that's all from that one sound. Wow,

1128
00:50:46,641 --> 00:50:50,161
Speaker 3: So that's my signature, you know. And yeah, man, from

1129
00:50:50,201 --> 00:50:53,281
Speaker 3: there it was just it was on. Yeah, that's the sound.

1130
00:50:53,921 --> 00:50:55,641
Speaker 3: You never played that one, did you?

1131
00:50:56,721 --> 00:50:58,361
Speaker 1: Yes? I did? Oh did? Yeah. I did a couple

1132
00:50:58,401 --> 00:51:00,521
Speaker 1: of sets there. Oh you did? Yeah? Yeah?

1133
00:51:00,561 --> 00:51:04,561
Speaker 3: Wow ye And you know again what wonderful times. They

1134
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,841
Speaker 3: were all supportive of the music. It was like it

1135
00:51:06,881 --> 00:51:09,721
Speaker 3: was just everyone helping each other and that's all we did.

1136
00:51:10,161 --> 00:51:10,401
Speaker 1: You know.

1137
00:51:10,801 --> 00:51:13,641
Speaker 3: I'd put albums out, we'd put the local local guys

1138
00:51:13,681 --> 00:51:15,801
Speaker 3: on it, you know, and vice versa. They'd be playing

1139
00:51:15,801 --> 00:51:18,041
Speaker 3: the stuff and sharing it and all that. It was

1140
00:51:18,081 --> 00:51:19,561
Speaker 3: just a whole other era.

1141
00:51:20,161 --> 00:51:22,561
Speaker 1: You've never you've never been into the ib for scene.

1142
00:51:22,681 --> 00:51:26,281
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I had residencies at AA, I did s parodies,

1143
00:51:26,681 --> 00:51:27,321
Speaker 3: I did Eden.

1144
00:51:27,881 --> 00:51:28,121
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1145
00:51:28,201 --> 00:51:30,721
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think Australia is up there

1146
00:51:30,721 --> 00:51:33,241
Speaker 2: with the best countries for the party scene in the nightlife?

1147
00:51:33,321 --> 00:51:38,001
Speaker 3: No, far from it. Maybe Melbourne, ironically, being in the

1148
00:51:38,001 --> 00:51:41,281
Speaker 3: biggest NUNTI state, is actually the biggest party in the city.

1149
00:51:41,281 --> 00:51:43,961
Speaker 3: We've got no I think we've got a long way

1150
00:51:44,001 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: to go. We got too much red tape here now,

1151
00:51:45,841 --> 00:51:49,001
Speaker 3: way too much. I mean, what do you think on that?

1152
00:51:49,121 --> 00:51:49,401
Speaker 1: To me?

1153
00:51:51,321 --> 00:51:54,761
Speaker 2: Definitely, Well, as I said I I've seen England, so

1154
00:51:54,801 --> 00:51:58,041
Speaker 2: there's there's no chance on England, America forget it.

1155
00:51:58,361 --> 00:52:00,041
Speaker 1: Spain, I'd be for forget it, you know.

1156
00:52:00,121 --> 00:52:01,481
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't even you can't even do a

1157
00:52:01,521 --> 00:52:02,841
Speaker 2: make club on the beach here, you know what I mean.

1158
00:52:02,841 --> 00:52:04,881
Speaker 1: You can't even a bark. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1159
00:52:05,921 --> 00:52:06,601
Speaker 1: That's my point.

1160
00:52:06,681 --> 00:52:09,881
Speaker 2: Like the closest thing I can say to like you

1161
00:52:09,921 --> 00:52:13,201
Speaker 2: say Melbourne, me, I say Gold Coast, okay, only because

1162
00:52:13,241 --> 00:52:15,441
Speaker 2: Gold Coast to me has never changed.

1163
00:52:15,561 --> 00:52:15,961
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1164
00:52:16,161 --> 00:52:17,761
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had the lockout laws, but then they brought

1165
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,361
Speaker 2: it back and it just now you just go from

1166
00:52:19,401 --> 00:52:22,401
Speaker 2: club to club. But Sydney has just got lost at fivees.

1167
00:52:22,441 --> 00:52:27,041
Speaker 1: Now it's all about restaurants. Yeah, you know, we used to.

1168
00:52:27,081 --> 00:52:30,561
Speaker 2: Go out kids nowadays go out at nine o'clock, eight o'clock.

1169
00:52:30,561 --> 00:52:32,201
Speaker 1: We should go out to fucking eleventh midnight.

1170
00:52:32,241 --> 00:52:33,841
Speaker 2: That's right, you know what I mean, That's exactly right,

1171
00:52:33,841 --> 00:52:34,921
Speaker 2: because's when the clubs get going.

1172
00:52:34,921 --> 00:52:35,481
Speaker 1: It's exactly right.

1173
00:52:35,561 --> 00:52:37,001
Speaker 2: We know we're going to party till the next day,

1174
00:52:37,761 --> 00:52:40,761
Speaker 2: but they're home by midnight. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's

1175
00:52:40,801 --> 00:52:42,481
Speaker 2: totally totally changed.

1176
00:52:42,241 --> 00:52:45,921
Speaker 3: And it's moved to now obviously events, so you know,

1177
00:52:45,961 --> 00:52:48,801
Speaker 3: the weekly, the whole weekly club thing is sort of diminishing.

1178
00:52:48,841 --> 00:52:51,041
Speaker 3: You know, it's sort of gone now. So you run

1179
00:52:51,081 --> 00:52:53,481
Speaker 3: your events so you know you'll have one do one.

1180
00:52:53,521 --> 00:52:55,521
Speaker 3: That's why we space them out. You know, back in

1181
00:52:55,521 --> 00:52:59,601
Speaker 3: the day you could do it every week. Your favorite

1182
00:52:59,601 --> 00:53:03,561
Speaker 3: single that you've made. I'm going to say, just listen

1183
00:53:03,561 --> 00:53:06,241
Speaker 3: to the Legacy album. They're pretty much all the ones.

1184
00:53:07,281 --> 00:53:09,081
Speaker 3: I can't pick one. I was just thinking about it, man,

1185
00:53:09,401 --> 00:53:10,121
Speaker 3: it's impossible.

1186
00:53:10,321 --> 00:53:14,201
Speaker 2: Which was the most enjoyable album to make that you've made.

1187
00:53:14,801 --> 00:53:18,521
Speaker 3: All the albums have been had its place, so you know,

1188
00:53:18,561 --> 00:53:21,361
Speaker 3: we started with Kicking Hard back in the late nineties,

1189
00:53:22,041 --> 00:53:24,801
Speaker 3: all the way through with the Ultimate Energies, all the

1190
00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:27,881
Speaker 3: way through with the Reunion albums, now you know, Legacy,

1191
00:53:28,041 --> 00:53:30,161
Speaker 3: all that, they've all had their place, man.

1192
00:53:30,241 --> 00:53:32,401
Speaker 1: So they've all been fun to make.

1193
00:53:33,041 --> 00:53:35,641
Speaker 3: They've all had a story, you know, in the background,

1194
00:53:35,841 --> 00:53:36,761
Speaker 3: all the things going on.

1195
00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:39,281
Speaker 1: All that, it's been fun. Man, it's been a fun,

1196
00:53:39,601 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: fun career, which was closer to your heart.

1197
00:53:41,441 --> 00:53:44,041
Speaker 3: The legacy would be the closest to my heart, purely

1198
00:53:44,081 --> 00:53:46,441
Speaker 3: because I've been able to redo a lot of the

1199
00:53:46,481 --> 00:53:48,641
Speaker 3: songs I wanted to redo, and I spent a lot

1200
00:53:48,681 --> 00:53:53,081
Speaker 3: of time perfecting the album. For back in the day,

1201
00:53:53,241 --> 00:53:55,401
Speaker 3: Kicking Hard was like huge. All the ogs would know

1202
00:53:55,441 --> 00:53:58,481
Speaker 3: that the Kicking Hard was crazy. And then you know,

1203
00:53:58,601 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: obviously the europe side of things, Ultimate Energy, which even

1204
00:54:02,481 --> 00:54:04,801
Speaker 3: was big here, so they all had their place.

1205
00:54:05,161 --> 00:54:08,361
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Bro, Like, I'm going to give

1206
00:54:08,361 --> 00:54:12,161
Speaker 2: it to you, and I'm so I will say this

1207
00:54:13,041 --> 00:54:14,281
Speaker 2: as a brother to a brother.

1208
00:54:14,241 --> 00:54:16,561
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of what you've achieved.

1209
00:54:16,801 --> 00:54:20,401
Speaker 2: You are a god to this industry and to and

1210
00:54:20,441 --> 00:54:21,801
Speaker 2: to to the DJ world.

1211
00:54:22,001 --> 00:54:22,641
Speaker 1: I'll give you that.

1212
00:54:23,081 --> 00:54:25,201
Speaker 2: Like I've never I've met a lot of DJs, Bro,

1213
00:54:25,281 --> 00:54:27,281
Speaker 2: And as I said, you know, I've told you what

1214
00:54:27,601 --> 00:54:29,481
Speaker 2: my dad used to have, and I've known a lot

1215
00:54:29,561 --> 00:54:35,841
Speaker 2: overseas too, but I've never seen clubbers fucking turn.

1216
00:54:35,681 --> 00:54:39,361
Speaker 1: How they are for one person like you. It's unbelievable.

1217
00:54:39,401 --> 00:54:40,561
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1218
00:54:40,681 --> 00:54:43,961
Speaker 2: And when you see that, you see how much you

1219
00:54:44,081 --> 00:54:46,001
Speaker 2: mean to these people, you know what I mean, Like

1220
00:54:46,041 --> 00:54:48,761
Speaker 2: they could have like no job or anything, but you

1221
00:54:48,801 --> 00:54:50,961
Speaker 2: bring joy into their life because of what.

1222
00:54:50,841 --> 00:54:53,321
Speaker 1: You do for them.

1223
00:54:52,681 --> 00:54:56,001
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know what, I take my hat

1224
00:54:56,041 --> 00:54:58,081
Speaker 2: off to you, and I'm fucking so glad that you

1225
00:54:58,121 --> 00:54:59,681
Speaker 2: came on my show to share your fucking story.

1226
00:54:59,761 --> 00:55:00,041
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1227
00:55:00,321 --> 00:55:03,481
Speaker 3: There's lots more to talk about, probably another time. That

1228
00:55:03,641 --> 00:55:05,481
Speaker 3: definitely is awesome

1229
00:55:19,441 --> 00:55:19,761
Speaker 1: Mhm