Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sharry.
Speaker 2: Look what she's actually doing is she's going to every
Speaker 2: disney Land in the world.
Speaker 1: It'll take her three weeks, but all the puddles will
Speaker 1: be here, and when Sharry's back will celebrating. Enjoy your breakdown.
Speaker 2: All right, Lots to get to tonight, including a before
Speaker 2: we get to all the obvious. Remember a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, we're all told to go to our rooms
Speaker 2: by our government, and a lot of people did and
Speaker 2: they were all fine with it. Well, there was, of course,
Speaker 2: the absurdity that people were fighting over toilet paper.
Speaker 1: I want my ten roles, No, I want forty roles.
Speaker 1: Now I'm buying a week's supply. I'm buying a month's supply.
Speaker 1: How deg are that bloody person?
Speaker 2: And yes, I, like many of you, had to go
Speaker 2: from supermarket to supermarket on bloody opening birds because oh
Speaker 2: we're running out of too roll. Remember the nonsense of
Speaker 2: the toilet paper. Well, tonight, eggs are the new toilet paper, because,
Speaker 2: as you may have heard, there's.
Speaker 1: A little bit of trouble overseas.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of places on the fringes of our
Speaker 2: cities that are starting to cause trouble. But people are
Speaker 2: now going nutty and are buying too many eggs, so
Speaker 2: much so that the major supermarkets have now decided that's it,
Speaker 2: we are going to limit the amount of eggs you
Speaker 2: can buy.
Speaker 1: Yes, apparently it's the height of World War two.
Speaker 2: Apparently we're rationing things now and as a precaution, according
Speaker 2: to Woolies, to manage its stock delay, we're introducing a
Speaker 2: two pack purchase limit on eggs.
Speaker 1: You said, whiles I see t Victoria.
Speaker 2: Will people cross the border into Queensland to get extra ones?
Speaker 2: Will people smuggle them on flights from Adelaide? Will there
Speaker 2: be a hard border between Western Australia and the rest
Speaker 2: of the country about eggs?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: But right now the majority of our customers are only
Speaker 2: buying one carton of egg at a time, So that's good.
Speaker 1: You don't have to change.
Speaker 3: But clearly they've put a limit in place because people
Speaker 3: lose it's their brain. It's a little bit like you know,
Speaker 3: before a public holiday when for some reason the shops
Speaker 3: are going to be close for one day, but people
Speaker 3: are stocking up as if it's.
Speaker 1: The end of the world.
Speaker 2: They encourage shoppers to be mindful and make sure that
Speaker 2: you only buy what you'd normally buy.
Speaker 1: They're not the only ones.
Speaker 2: Coals have also told us that the band extends there
Speaker 2: where they've limited the amount of eggs. So we've sort
Speaker 2: of seen that when there's something to worry about, sometimes
Speaker 2: we overreact to control the things we can't control, like
Speaker 2: toilet paper or the amount of eggs, or get out
Speaker 2: of my way, I'm getting the water. Well, if you
Speaker 2: are the type of person who is worried easily, I'd
Speaker 2: like to tell you remain calm. But there's an asteroid
Speaker 2: that's heading our way. Now, apparently it'll pass by about
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand kilometers. But this thing is
Speaker 2: apparently the science of Mount Everest, So Cole's Woolly's aldi.
Speaker 2: They may turn around, and I know what they're gonna
Speaker 2: limit and how people are going to prepare for the asteroid,
Speaker 2: But that could be on its way, and in fact,
Speaker 2: there's apparently an even more concerning asteroid that is headed
Speaker 2: our way. Why do I know, because I've got this
Speaker 2: clip from Canadian News.
Speaker 4: In about five and a half years, a massive asteroid
Speaker 4: name Apofas, after the Egyptian god of chaos will pass
Speaker 4: so close to the Earth we'll be able to see
Speaker 4: it in the sky. And that has NASA scientists on
Speaker 4: high alert.
Speaker 3: Ah, quick bite the eggs, the toilet paper, because this
Speaker 3: thing's going to come rather close.
Speaker 1: It's not going to hit us, apparently, but you know,
Speaker 1: science and stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm pleased to say that NASA is on this,
Speaker 2: but the emotions are pretty high at NASA.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 2: Guy absolutely not freaking out and being very calm.
Speaker 1: But listen to what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: We want to be able to get a spacecraft out
Speaker 2: there weeks two months to get a look at Apathas
Speaker 2: before that close encounter. We're going to send a spacecraft
Speaker 2: to knock it off its trajectory, just in case it's
Speaker 2: getting too close to us.
Speaker 1: Again, we panic about eggs and toilet paper.
Speaker 2: What will happen when we learn that they've sent a
Speaker 2: spacecraft to go and knock an asteroid out of the way.
Speaker 2: To knock a asteroid out of the way, well, amazingly,
Speaker 2: you know that actually already done this. Who knew this
Speaker 2: is American taxpayers dollars at work. But thankfully they still
Speaker 2: spend money on this as opposed to what we spend
Speaker 2: money on, like two new planes for the Prime Minister.
Speaker 4: Two years ago, the double Asteroid Redirection test, known as
Speaker 4: the Dark Spacecraft smashed into an asteroid to knock a
Speaker 4: massive space rock off its gravitational course and it worked.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a pretty big deal for all of us
Speaker 4: on Earth. Now.
Speaker 2: I'd love to play Aerosmith's Don't Miss a Thing right now,
Speaker 2: which of course was the song that they played after
Speaker 2: Bruce Willis and the rest of them were able to
Speaker 2: save the Earth.
Speaker 1: But we don't have the budget.
Speaker 2: So just imagine that a really boring series of scientists
Speaker 2: will head out weeks or months before an event which
Speaker 2: could well have some consequences on the Earth, and they'll
Speaker 2: just politely not shoot it, not blow it away, just
Speaker 2: push it out of the way. Now, Labor and Peace,
Speaker 2: I've got to say, while I disagree on many of
Speaker 2: their issues, I certainly admire their discipline to even argue
Speaker 2: against reality at times, but always argue in unison. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: obviously not always Like this week, that lady crossed the
Speaker 2: floor against her own government, of fact, the first person
Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty eight to do so. And remember she
Speaker 2: got so punished. Remember not allowed to go to one meeting. Well,
Speaker 2: Penny Wong, well remember one of the mean girls. Well
Speaker 2: she was waving her finger on Telly here today, wasn't
Speaker 2: she right?
Speaker 5: Well, it's from Minista, as I said, has sean great
Speaker 5: restraint on this occasion. He has directed that she not
Speaker 5: attend the caucus. What I would say to is that
Speaker 5: our expectation and the expectation of her colleagues is that
Speaker 5: senator payment abide by the collective solidaria. So if it
Speaker 5: happened again, well, our expectation is that she observed the
Speaker 5: solidarity that all labor people bring to their position.
Speaker 2: The Greats are promising to put in another vote, which
Speaker 2: of course will test all of this system again. The
Speaker 2: Labor Party, well, they don't want to boot her out
Speaker 2: because they firstly create a political martyr, but secondly the
Speaker 2: numbers get a little more uncertain in the Senate, and
Speaker 2: of course they could end up pushing Muslim votes towards
Speaker 2: the Greens. And I wish that the collective brain of
Speaker 2: our media and certainly the people who are running our
Speaker 2: country were just as in range and just focused on
Speaker 2: the issue that actually is worrying Australians, and that's not
Speaker 2: a media rite. It's not toilet paper, and it's not eggs.
Speaker 2: It's the overall cost of living. Doesn't matter when it
Speaker 2: comes to a pole or anything else. We know there
Speaker 2: are so many lies and we're in the middle of
Speaker 2: a crisis right now. The reality, as you know, is
Speaker 2: that australis inflation rate and this is not based over
Speaker 2: the three months, but over one of the three months
Speaker 2: that puts together. The overall number has now gone up
Speaker 2: to four percent. As we showed you last night. These
Speaker 2: are all the things above four percent that make that
Speaker 2: number particularly difficult to move. Tobacco at thirteen percent, petrol
Speaker 2: at nine point three, insurance rents, alcohol, electricity which was
Speaker 2: apparently falling but apparently no is still going up by
Speaker 2: higher than the average inflation rate. The same with health, house, education,
Speaker 2: new housing for people to live in, transport and fruit
Speaker 2: and veg, all of it up and up, up, up,
Speaker 2: and all of it way above where the Reserve Bank
Speaker 2: needs things to be. And that of course is between
Speaker 2: two and three percent, not three and four, not four
Speaker 2: and five. And hence why the Liberal Party was asking
Speaker 2: the questions they did today in question time Prime Minister,
Speaker 2: why do Australians have to live in fear of yet
Speaker 2: another rate rise under this hopeless government. Why are Australian
Speaker 2: families paying the price for Labour's economic failures?
Speaker 1: Prime Minister?
Speaker 6: Why are Australian families paying the price for Labour's economic incompetence?
Speaker 1: Fair question?
Speaker 2: What are the consequences, of course, of ongoing high inflation
Speaker 2: that is not between two and three percent, not three
Speaker 2: to four, not four to five. It has to be
Speaker 2: two and three is that is what the Reserve Bank
Speaker 2: seedes as the only band that we should have for
Speaker 2: a good economy and for the country working at just
Speaker 2: the right the sort of Goldilocks number. This is way
Speaker 2: too high, which of course means interest rates. I'll get
Speaker 2: to that in a second.
Speaker 1: But back to why I admire the Labor.
Speaker 2: Party some times, and I facetiously say that why I
Speaker 2: admire the Labor Party arguing that down is up and
Speaker 2: up is down and you can't see what your lying
Speaker 2: eyes are telling you is because when they go out
Speaker 2: on television, they are out there today telling us that
Speaker 2: after inflation has started to go back up is a
Speaker 2: full percent above the upper limit of where the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank will accept. They are out and about saying look,
Speaker 2: how good we're going.
Speaker 7: So inflation has come down a lot, it's absolutely true
Speaker 7: that it has got further to go, and that's why
Speaker 7: the government's plan to deliver a prudent budget surplus to
Speaker 7: pursue fiscal discipline is the right path to help families.
Speaker 1: We're doing a good job. Patting themselves on the back now.
Speaker 2: Of course that's easy for him to say, because if
Speaker 2: times get tough, he could sell one of many properties,
Speaker 2: apparently a property portfolio with forty two million dollars. Good
Speaker 2: self made man, Good luck to it. But I'm not
Speaker 2: really going to be taking my Hey, it's okay from
Speaker 2: the bloke who's absolutely dripping in cash litt alone any
Speaker 2: other politician, because let's say it all together. They got
Speaker 2: a pay rise. They got a pay rise last week,
Speaker 2: which is the third since Labour came to power. The
Speaker 2: PM now earning six hundred thousand dollars. So despite the
Speaker 2: fact that he's got two new planes, he's got a
Speaker 2: mansion in Sydney, he's got a mansion in Canberra, and
Speaker 2: he's paid six hundred thousand dollars, here's the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: telling you inflation going back up to a full percentage
Speaker 2: point higher than what the Reserve Bank is trying to
Speaker 2: achieve with the dozen interest rate rises since he became
Speaker 2: Prime Minister.
Speaker 1: Here's the spin.
Speaker 8: Australia has faster economic growth than Canada, Germany, Italy, Japan
Speaker 8: and the UK. In the G seven, we have a
Speaker 8: lower unemployment rate than Canada, trans Italy. In the UK,
Speaker 8: we have faster employment growth than Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan,
Speaker 8: the US and the UK. We have a higher participation
Speaker 8: rate France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the US and the UK.
Speaker 8: And Australia is the only only one with a budget
Speaker 8: surpas along with the smallest gross step.
Speaker 1: Hang on the gross debt.
Speaker 2: Remember was the reason to change the government, which was
Speaker 2: the trillion dollars. The gross debt will go to one
Speaker 2: point two trillion dollars within the four estimates of this
Speaker 2: federal budget. When they talk about economic growth, Australia is
Speaker 2: growing at zero point one percent zero point one percent,
Speaker 2: But the question is inflation. Inflation at four percent is
Speaker 2: higher than what the Reserve Bank is demanding. And let's
Speaker 2: compare Australia's inflation rate with the rest of the world. Now,
Speaker 2: not Zimbabwe, not Argentina, but countries that have a lower
Speaker 2: inflation rate than as you can see on your screen, Brazil, Spain,
Speaker 2: the United States, where they will probably get rid of
Speaker 2: the current president because of inflation, their rate is lower
Speaker 2: than ours. Singapore, Canada is under three percent. Indonesia, Japan,
Speaker 2: the Netherlands, South Korea and Germany are all in the twos,
Speaker 2: as is France. And in the United Kingdom, where they
Speaker 2: are about to get rid of their government in part
Speaker 2: because of the cost of living, their inflation rate is
Speaker 2: half that of ours.
Speaker 1: Oh but it's okay.
Speaker 2: Twenty five dollars a month credit is coming to everyone
Speaker 2: from the people who own mangins to one bedroom units in.
Speaker 1: The bush to help with power bills, and.
Speaker 2: Of course two little too late tax cuts the average
Speaker 2: fifteen dollars a week. As we've spoken about before, the
Speaker 2: best spin the government can put on it is it's
Speaker 2: about thirty something dollars. None of it touch as, none
Speaker 2: of it changes because all of those things are going
Speaker 2: up and they are now starting to speed up their
Speaker 2: race to the top. Now, are we going to go
Speaker 2: back where we were a couple of years ago. No, However,
Speaker 2: for the government to turn around and say, as they did,
Speaker 2: our budget will do nothing when it comes to inflation. Well,
Speaker 2: the mere announcement of their budget in May compared to
Speaker 2: when it kicks in on the first of July has
Speaker 2: seen inflation go back up, let alone when the actual
Speaker 2: money starts moving around. So what are we being told
Speaker 2: in the Financial Review? Multiple interest rate rises are the
Speaker 2: only way to push it back down, back down to three,
Speaker 2: back down to two and a half. Also the Australian today,
Speaker 2: the RBA has no option but to raise rates in August,
Speaker 2: and the Libs know this is the issue. Forget everything else,
Speaker 2: This is the issue that matters the most.
Speaker 1: Two Australians. Here's an MP Zoey Mackenzie on Telly today.
Speaker 9: We know that the budget has been inflationary. We know
Speaker 9: this government has put three hundred and fifteen billion dollars
Speaker 9: of extra spending into the government. We know core inflation
Speaker 9: is at four point four percent, which is what the
Speaker 9: RBA looks at.
Speaker 10: We know that.
Speaker 9: Inflation rate is high than the US, Canada, France, Sweden,
Speaker 9: the UK, Norway. How much more congratulations would they be
Speaker 9: asking for on no.
Speaker 10: Basis whatsoever sounds that rates to go out.
Speaker 9: It sounds like crazy to going out. Most people ask
Speaker 9: me to you a surprise. They didn't go up last time,
Speaker 9: so all eyes will be on August in terms of
Speaker 9: whether they go up again.
Speaker 2: Now, remember the Reserve Bank had a conversation. It wasn't
Speaker 2: about cutting rates, it was maybe about putting them up.
Speaker 2: These numbers means the pressure on them making that decision.
Speaker 2: So the government can spin it anyway it wants the reality.
Speaker 2: We are in a tough spot which is not getting better.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's getting worse. And you can tell me
Speaker 2: is many labor mp millionaires or people that are getting
Speaker 2: pay rise. Everything's okay, it ain't now, I like you,
Speaker 2: I've had enough of the in assane chat. As you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get involved in the good guy
Speaker 2: the bad guy thing. But you may have heard his
Speaker 2: return to Australia. Yes, last night our show was taken
Speaker 2: over by press conferences and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: But as you know, Anthony Alberanesi is well and truly
Speaker 2: washing himself in lefty joy. As he was on the
Speaker 2: phone and tweeting out pictures as he's talking to him.
Speaker 2: There was a press conference that he was holding. As
Speaker 2: he was walking off the plane, he was talking it
Speaker 2: up in Parliament yesterday.
Speaker 1: But despite the.
Speaker 2: Fact that all of those things happened, the Camber Press Gallery,
Speaker 2: or at least one of its members, says albany Assane,
Speaker 2: hero or villain either way, Albanesi is keeping his distance. Sorry,
Speaker 2: he's taking photos of himself on the phone, he's doing
Speaker 2: nighttime press conferences, he's got the chest puffed out in
Speaker 2: question time, and he's standing to the ovations of Radio
Speaker 2: National Fair Dincon. But what I thought was very important
Speaker 2: to point out to mine was don't fall for this
Speaker 2: garbage that albow is some sort of information freedom fighter,
Speaker 2: that he's a transparent figure who is okay with the
Speaker 2: most uncomfortable information being brought out, no matter what a
Speaker 2: government actually says. We've shown you how many times about
Speaker 2: the actual attitude of transparency that this bloke and this
Speaker 2: government has. When you ask for documents, you get a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of redacted, a whole bunch of questions just
Speaker 2: don't get answered. Remember we showed you the playbook about
Speaker 2: how politicians and their public servants, which one is the master,
Speaker 2: which one's the puppy, your choice, well, about how to
Speaker 2: answer questions or not answer questions in Senate estimates. But
Speaker 2: something a little more serious than that. I want to
Speaker 2: show you this bloke. His name is David McBride, and
Speaker 2: David McBride was a military lawyer. Now, he discovered documents
Speaker 2: that led to nationwide reporting of potential, if not proven,
Speaker 2: but let's say, potential war crimes that were taking place.
Speaker 2: This is the explanation via Channel two where he was
Speaker 2: found guilty and is currently in jail.
Speaker 11: Former military lawyer David McBride has been sentenced to five
Speaker 11: years and eight months jail in the set Supreme Court
Speaker 11: for sharon classified military documents with journalists. Mcbrideple died guilty
Speaker 11: to three charges, including theft and sharing more than two
Speaker 11: hundred documents classified as secret with members of the press.
Speaker 2: Now, this prosecution had been in train for some time,
Speaker 2: but obviously this government has been around for two years.
Speaker 1: There were multiple.
Speaker 2: Times that McBride and his supporters appealed to the Attorney
Speaker 2: General Mark Dreyfuss to drop the charges to stop the prosecution.
Speaker 2: Yet Drefus said, oh no, it's only under the most
Speaker 2: extreme circumstances that I'm going to be allowed to do so.
Speaker 2: So this government made a decision that information that the
Speaker 2: whistleblower believed the world should know because it was the
Speaker 2: apparent war crimes that were being committed in places like Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: That person is currently in jail now. Whether you think
Speaker 2: they should or shouldn't, that's beside the point. My point
Speaker 2: is that Albo is out there pretending that he's you know,
Speaker 2: the Wikileak's best friend and Assange's best friend and on
Speaker 2: the phone and living in the glory of the guy
Speaker 2: who tells the uncomfortable secrets. But a person who told
Speaker 2: uncomfortable secrets about our country has been prosecuted by this
Speaker 2: government that turned away from dropping a prosecution. That bloke
Speaker 2: is in jail now for multiple years because this government
Speaker 2: decided that those secrets must be kept held tight, regardless
Speaker 2: of the public's quote unquote right to know, or how
Speaker 2: many awards came out of the reporting that the documents
Speaker 2: were based off. And as Andrew Wilkie, who remember was
Speaker 2: a whistleblower himself, giving information to the then Channel nine
Speaker 2: News reporter Lourie Oakes. He made this point upon the
Speaker 2: jailing of McBride.
Speaker 12: The first Australian to front of court and the first
Speaker 12: Australian to go to jail over the alleged war crimes
Speaker 12: in Afghanistan. Is the whistleblower that brought the allegations to
Speaker 12: the public's attention. And I'll tell you why the governments
Speaker 12: behaved this way, because governments, be they LNP or labor,
Speaker 12: they hate whistleblowers, They hate people speaking up, they hate
Speaker 12: people shining a light on official misconduct.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to Albo, he's fine if you
Speaker 2: dump another country's secrets, but if you do it to
Speaker 2: our country, you definitely have to go to jail. Victoria
Speaker 2: is playing a very dangerous political game at the moment
Speaker 2: because even lefties don't.
Speaker 1: Like the idea of a death tax.
Speaker 2: Now, our death tax has been one of the great
Speaker 2: bogeymen of Australian politics now. At times people have discussed
Speaker 2: things like inheritance taxes. And inheritance taxes of course, means
Speaker 2: that the money that you would be passing from your
Speaker 2: bank account to your kid's bank account, well, it would
Speaker 2: end up.
Speaker 1: With a big tax on top of it.
Speaker 2: We've seen people like the United Australian Party back in
Speaker 2: twenty and nineteen run very hard on this particular issue,
Speaker 2: and in part, the mere suggestion of it cost labor votes.
Speaker 2: Why because of course it was the suggestion that it
Speaker 2: was a plan from the Labor Party, but of course
Speaker 2: the Greens are much more friendly to this sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: and it's been a policy that essentially no major political
Speaker 2: party would ever have the balls to actually put into place,
Speaker 2: because intergenerational transfer of wealth put simply inheriting something from
Speaker 2: your parents or your grandparents or an uncle or an
Speaker 2: auntie is a very significant way that people are able
Speaker 2: to pay off their houses or to be able to
Speaker 2: have that little bit of extra money to make things
Speaker 2: easier for themselves. It's a terrible idea. People hate it.
Speaker 2: But I mentioned Victoria where their government is apparently considering
Speaker 2: a version, pudon me, a version of this. Harold Son
Speaker 2: wrote today fascinatingly that grieving families could cop a dex
Speaker 2: a death tax by stealth under a proposed Supreme Court
Speaker 2: probate fee hike. Now, of course, anyone who has gone
Speaker 2: through the tragedy of losing somebody that they love, and
Speaker 2: anyone who's had power of attorney and gone through all
Speaker 2: of that mess knows about probate courts. And that's why
Speaker 2: we're going to sell the house here and move the
Speaker 2: shares that you know, how all of this works well.
Speaker 2: The suggestion is is that the Victorian government should increase
Speaker 2: the size of the clip that they put on the ticket.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: According to the Herald Sun today, the cost of dying
Speaker 2: is set to skyrocket with a Victoria in Victoria, with
Speaker 2: the Ollen government considering introduced what has been penned as
Speaker 2: a panda's a death tax by stealth, the move will
Speaker 2: sea grieving family slugged thousands of dollars more to enact
Speaker 2: the wills of loved ones. With probate fees set to
Speaker 2: face massive increases, the government has fast tracked a review
Speaker 2: of the Supreme Court probate fees by three years, which
Speaker 2: increases has some increases of up to six hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty percent being considered also massive change. Under the favored
Speaker 2: model being considered by the government, some fees would move
Speaker 2: from a fixed rate where it doesn't matter how much
Speaker 2: money you're talking about inheriting, to a a tiered system
Speaker 2: where the more you inherit, the more tax you pay.
Speaker 1: Now, before you.
Speaker 2: Completely freak out and start trying to buy toilet paper
Speaker 2: and buy too many eggs and worry about asteroids, let
Speaker 2: me show you what the numbers are here. The numbers
Speaker 2: are relatively low. So currently, if you are going to
Speaker 2: inherit two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, the current provate
Speaker 2: fee is sixty eight dollars, it would go up then
Speaker 2: to two one hundred and sixty one dollars. If it's
Speaker 2: between two fifty and five hundred, it'd go to five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: If it's five hundred and a million.
Speaker 2: It's one thousand dollars, and if it's two and a
Speaker 2: half million or above, it's two thousand, five hundred dollars. Now,
Speaker 2: all of that, of course, is not going to really
Speaker 2: break the bank when it comes to these fees, particularly
Speaker 2: if that much money is moving around, But it is
Speaker 2: the principle. It is the point that currently the government
Speaker 2: is clipping the ticket for most people by less than
Speaker 2: one hundred bucks. But if that is about to surge
Speaker 2: by two hundred and eighty one percent, what is top
Speaker 2: cash strapped governments into the future just turning it up
Speaker 2: a little more, a little more, a little more, a
Speaker 2: little more, a little more, and then you start realizing
Speaker 2: that what is hundreds of dollars becomes thousands of dollars
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. Lazy governments slowly move these things through. So
Speaker 2: let's see if the Allen government does it. I would
Speaker 2: hope that even labor supporters will get in touch with
Speaker 2: them and say no, thank you, hands off mum and
Speaker 2: Dad's money, hands off inheritance. If you want to tell
Speaker 2: us that there's a very mild fee for the paperwork, okay,
Speaker 2: less than.
Speaker 1: One hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Anything else is clearly going to be the frog in
Speaker 2: the pot system where they're not just going to go
Speaker 2: straight to ten thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars or
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars or ten percent, twenty five percent
Speaker 2: half instead, like all of these taxes, slowly but surely,
Speaker 2: and then, just like the frog in the pot of water,
Speaker 2: you don't realize it's over.
Speaker 1: Until it's too late.
Speaker 2: Now, also in Victoria, Australians have faith in the electoral system.
Speaker 2: We may not like the political results that come out
Speaker 2: of it, but as a rule we trust the electoral system.
Speaker 1: Why because there are so.
Speaker 2: Few cases that end up going anywhere near a court
Speaker 2: showing how people would attempt to influence or change the system. Now,
Speaker 2: unlike places like the United States, you have to do
Speaker 2: things like apply for postal votes apply to be able
Speaker 2: to get a ballot sent to your house, unlike in
Speaker 2: America where they will just send it to your house.
Speaker 1: And that's a whole another issue.
Speaker 2: Now, amazingly, the AEC has turned around and said that
Speaker 2: something that has been building for a little while is
Speaker 2: the number of people who are trying to basically double
Speaker 2: click the issues with the American system and pretend that that's.
Speaker 1: The Australian system.
Speaker 2: Well, while I'm not a great fan of systems, and
Speaker 2: I think that from time to time the AAC likes
Speaker 2: to get overly involved in issues like misinformation, I do
Speaker 2: trust our electoral system. We have seen when there have
Speaker 2: been issues like the Senate ballot paper issues in Western Australia,
Speaker 2: will they ends up with a revote. We've seen scenarios
Speaker 2: where hundreds of people who were accused of double voting
Speaker 2: in twenty and nineteen and that was in the Sorry
Speaker 2: that was twenty sixteen in the seat of Herbert. But
Speaker 2: there's an issue I want to talk about, which is
Speaker 2: this bloke. Now, this bloke was prosecuted because of what
Speaker 2: he has now pled guilty to, which was behaviors in
Speaker 2: the most recent Victorian election. Now he was an endorsed
Speaker 2: labor candidate, and when we first heard about the allegations,
Speaker 2: there were eighty three suspect ballots which had apparently been
Speaker 2: removed from people's letterboxes. There was an investigation and the
Speaker 2: tampering resulted in what resulted in a plea deal that
Speaker 2: essentially meant there was a conviction. Sorry, there was a
Speaker 2: plead of guilty that took place here. But essentially the
Speaker 2: front and center on all of this was, in a
Speaker 2: very rare example, somebody was held accountable for what was
Speaker 2: happening with ballots.
Speaker 1: But as you can see, he's not going to jail.
Speaker 2: He has received a fine, he has some sort of
Speaker 2: suspended or community sentence that's hanging over the top of him.
Speaker 2: It's not the AEC, but it was the Victorian Electoral
Speaker 2: Commission that decided to take on the prosecution. But you
Speaker 2: would think that if there was ever a need for
Speaker 2: things like weekend attention. I'm not talking about hardcore prison
Speaker 2: for forty five years, but if you think there's ever
Speaker 2: an example about sending someone to a prison farm or
Speaker 2: sending somebody to weekend attention, it would be something like this,
Speaker 2: Because if we know what the consequences are for fiddling
Speaker 2: with our electoral system. They have to be disproportionate. Why because,
Speaker 2: of course that is the disincentive for anyone going about
Speaker 2: and doing it.
Speaker 1: But I have mentioned this story.
Speaker 2: If you are a hardcore watcher and you remember many
Speaker 2: of the topics that we have raised on the program
Speaker 2: over the years, I just wanted to tell you that
Speaker 2: it ended. Were they guilty plate but no jail? Now
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twelve, but remember the year
Speaker 2: when Jeffrey Rush was named the Australian of the Year. Now,
Speaker 2: at the time I thought this was just weird. Spends
Speaker 2: most of his at that time, spent most of his
Speaker 2: time overseas. I didn't quite understand how anyone benefited from it,
Speaker 2: but he was named the Australian of the Year. The
Speaker 2: reason this has always stuck in my crawl is because,
Speaker 2: as you know, each state nominates their selected Australian of
Speaker 2: the Year, and in that year, Bruce and Denise Morecambe
Speaker 2: were nominated as the Queenslanders of the Year, and I
Speaker 2: believe should have been called the Australians of the Year.
Speaker 2: Bruce and Denise Morecambe are amazing human beings and you
Speaker 2: know why their son Daniel disappeared in two thousand and three.
Speaker 2: His murder was horrific and anyone with a child still
Speaker 2: upon hearing his name, sheds a tear for what happened
Speaker 2: to that beautiful boy and takes strength from what Bruce
Speaker 2: and Denise did.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 2: Bruce and Denise they started a foundation. They started a
Speaker 2: foundation in Daniel's name. It is now twenty years old,
Speaker 2: and I just wanted to say, in a world where
Speaker 2: we often teach your bad news and difficult news and
Speaker 2: hard news, there are really good people amongst us, and
Speaker 2: the way that they turned their pain into helping kids is.
Speaker 1: Something that I believe.
Speaker 2: If there is an opportunity for them to be renominated
Speaker 2: by Queensland as the Queenslanders of the Year and a
Speaker 2: chance to be the Australians of the Year for running
Speaker 2: this foundation for twenty years, may that honor go to them.
Speaker 2: They were in Canberra this week and Bruce and Denise
Speaker 2: have visited more than a thousand schools, as you can
Speaker 2: see in the van that goes around telling the message
Speaker 2: about safety safety to kids like their boy Daniel. They
Speaker 2: are on a twenty day, seven thousand kilometer road trip
Speaker 2: where they are going to talk to sixteen one hundred students.
Speaker 2: Daniel's father, Bruce says that we are proud to be
Speaker 2: Daniel's parents and quite move the twenty years after his
Speaker 2: abduction and those tragic events are not forgotten. His important
Speaker 2: legacy continues to grow. If like me, you are indebted
Speaker 2: to their strength, indebted to their work at admiring of
Speaker 2: their courage, support them tonight the Daniel Morcambe Foundation. The
Speaker 2: way you can help them out is via their website
Speaker 2: Daniel Morcambe dot com dot au.
Speaker 1: There's a big donate button there, Hit it as many
Speaker 1: times as you can and give.
Speaker 2: As much as you possibly can, because they are beautiful
Speaker 2: people who deserve to be the Australians of the year,
Speaker 2: but more importantly, deserve to know that we care, that
Speaker 2: we love and we continue to be in awe of
Speaker 2: what they do. Tomorrow is the big debate between Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: You are able to watch it at.
Speaker 2: Eleven am in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Canberra do your sums.
Speaker 2: If you live somewhere else in different time zones, you
Speaker 2: will see it here on Sky News. But I wanted
Speaker 2: to show you something that you haven't seen, which is
Speaker 2: this is what the set is going to look like. TODA.
Speaker 1: This is what the brand new.
Speaker 2: Presidential debate set is going to look like, not this
Speaker 2: one the CNN set. There we go, Hi, Hey everyone.
Speaker 2: It's very exciting and there's lots of CNN logos all over.
Speaker 1: It, isn't there. That's incredible.
Speaker 2: Well, CNN has gone out of its way today to
Speaker 2: pump up as part of its pre show for the debate,
Speaker 2: which you will see here simplcast on Sky News at
Speaker 2: eleven am Eastern tomorrow. They have decided to go very
Speaker 2: excited about telling you everything you need to know about
Speaker 2: the setting for the debate. They explain it like they're
Speaker 2: talking to children. But here is how it will work,
Speaker 2: so they know when to shut up.
Speaker 13: Attached to the cameras in the studio and in the
Speaker 13: candidate's field of view are the timing lates. When the
Speaker 13: lates show yellow, there are fifteen seconds left, and a
Speaker 13: candidate's answer or response thank you. When the lights flash
Speaker 13: read there are five seconds left, and when the display
Speaker 13: is solid read the time is up. At that point,
Speaker 13: the candidate's microphone will be turned off and the other
Speaker 13: candidate will have their microphone turned on.
Speaker 2: Wow I mean, that's the biggest name in news, right.
Speaker 1: Oh there's more.
Speaker 2: Please explain how turning a microphone on and off works.
Speaker 14: If we go behind the podiums, you can see two
Speaker 14: green lights. When they're on, they signal to the candidate
Speaker 14: his microphone is on. When the green lights are off,
Speaker 14: they signal to the candidate his microphone is off.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 14: Now I want to give you a sense of what
Speaker 14: it will look like for viewers a home if a
Speaker 14: candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone
Speaker 14: is on.
Speaker 1: So I'll play at what does interruption look off?
Speaker 14: To come in and take the other podium And so
Speaker 14: let's say I'm answering a question. My light is green
Speaker 14: and I'm speaking because your microphone is off and his
Speaker 14: green lights are not illuminated, but they're He's going to
Speaker 14: interrupt me as I'm speaking, and this is what it
Speaker 14: will sound like. My volume remains constant, while Phil's interruption
Speaker 14: can be difficult to understand.
Speaker 2: Wow, they're running out of topics about their own debate.
Speaker 2: So Redmin's shut up, green Main's your MIC's on. If
Speaker 2: you kind of spake normally, but if you're yelling, you
Speaker 2: will be able to hear whoever he is yelling during
Speaker 2: the debike. Megan Kelly, of course, is out wonderful friend
Speaker 2: the United States. She is hosted and moderated these debates.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to her later in the show.
Speaker 15: Of the CNN ers who you'd have to pick, they
Speaker 15: picked the best too. I know Jake Tapper's not a
Speaker 15: big Trump fan, and I'm sure Dana Bash isn't either,
Speaker 15: but I think on this the biggest night of their careers,
Speaker 15: they're going to behave. They're smart enough to know. I mean,
Speaker 15: I've already been seeing some of Jake's coverage of like
Speaker 15: the Trump trial in New York, and he's playing it
Speaker 15: right down the middle, Paul, right down the middle. So
Speaker 15: I expect to see that that night. I'm excited to
Speaker 15: watch it, I will say. And then to come and
Speaker 15: if I'm wrong about those anchors, I will rip them
Speaker 15: to shreds.
Speaker 2: On our next appearance, speaking of ripping to shreds, the
Speaker 2: beautiful rate of Pannehy and I will be watching the
Speaker 2: debate as well. You will see highlights of our take
Speaker 2: of the fight the debate, the lights on, the lights off,
Speaker 2: the mix on, the mixoft. That'll be all up tomorrow
Speaker 2: afternoon scott News dot com dot you quick break back
Speaker 2: with more ken you know, how do you think when
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Speaker 2: and tell me thank you so much for watching all right,
Speaker 2: Julian Assange, free zone, not talking about it for the
Speaker 2: rest of the night and the week.
Speaker 1: There you go done.
Speaker 2: Joining me to discuss everything else though, is lovely. Linda Scott,
Speaker 2: of course from the Sydney of City Council. She's joining
Speaker 2: us now in Melbourne. She also represents local government at
Speaker 2: the national cabinet level. Very exciting and the wonderful Caroline
Speaker 2: Marcus as well, one of the best in our newsroom
Speaker 2: at skynews dot com dot aus, where you can find
Speaker 2: many of her great reports, as well as on Telly.
Speaker 2: Love to see you both. So inflation, we now are
Speaker 2: in a scenario Caroline waere it's at four percent. That's
Speaker 2: a four percent above where the Reserve Bank needs it.
Speaker 2: I am not cheering on, but every expectation is now
Speaker 2: we're going towards an interest rate rise. Now, this is
Speaker 2: more than going to be a problem for the government,
Speaker 2: because the government, of course told us so. The budget
Speaker 2: totally uninflationary, nothing's going to happen. I think people are
Speaker 2: at their limit. I absolutely believe that it's at the limit,
Speaker 2: and if something happens.
Speaker 1: They will blame this.
Speaker 16: Government for it, and it won't just be them blaming
Speaker 16: the government unfairly. I mean, what came out of the
Speaker 16: Reserve Bank meeting last week was the Reserve Bank itself
Speaker 16: saying that because of the budgets that have come out
Speaker 16: federal on state, because of those big spanning budgets, this
Speaker 16: is this interest we're on the verse makes We're on
Speaker 16: the verge of it, and they don't think there's much
Speaker 16: that is going to be able to be done to
Speaker 16: stop that from happening. So it would be a fair
Speaker 16: assessment if it does as predicted for people to blame
Speaker 16: the government for that.
Speaker 2: Well, and again, can we if we can, guys, bring
Speaker 2: back the list of countries right ours at four percent?
Speaker 1: Okay, we are above places like Brazil.
Speaker 2: I think at the moment, but more importantly United States,
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, they are in the middle of election seasons
Speaker 2: that are about changing the government because of inflation.
Speaker 1: Our numbers are higher than that, Linda.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a concern for labor people because
Speaker 2: the assumption was, Okay, it's all the COVID staff, it's
Speaker 2: all the red it's global factors. Well, Australia's inflation rate
Speaker 2: is higher than the US, Brazil, Spain, US.
Speaker 1: UK and so on and so on. Are you worried.
Speaker 6: Let's put this into context. Of course, Scott Morrison and
Speaker 6: the former government left us with the highest level of
Speaker 6: debt ever in Australia. And let's not forget what we're
Speaker 6: going to look forward to for all Australians on Monday
Speaker 6: five major cost of living relief tax cuts for every
Speaker 6: single Australian are freezing of the medications on the PBS.
Speaker 6: Australians have got look to look forward to. The two
Speaker 6: point four millions Australian on award wages are going to
Speaker 6: get a significant increase next week. We're going to see
Speaker 6: two weeks paid parental leave, and of course three hundred
Speaker 6: dollars for every household of their energy bills. These are
Speaker 6: major cost of living relief pressures that are going to
Speaker 6: have an impact from next Monday on every working Australian
Speaker 6: in various ways. You can't just look at one measure
Speaker 6: of our economy and hang everything on that. This is
Speaker 6: about cost of living relief for every Australian household and
Speaker 6: ultimately that's what people notice, that's what matters to them.
Speaker 16: I mean, it's part of those measures that have led
Speaker 16: to the inflation.
Speaker 2: Well we're going to end up, Yeah, we're going to
Speaker 2: end up in a scenario where we'll see whether that
Speaker 2: stuff is even worse. Might look again, we can go
Speaker 2: uphill and down Daleen. I just think there's only one
Speaker 2: There's only one number we keep being told is what
Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank cares about. Because it's the Reserve Bank
Speaker 2: who says it. That is the number that we compare
Speaker 2: ourselves with everywhere else. I personally think many of those
Speaker 2: things are too late, but we'll all wait and see
Speaker 2: together now. One of the teals from Western Australia who
Speaker 2: would like to be noticed before the next election is
Speaker 2: Kate Cheney. She believes that the government doesn't have the
Speaker 2: courage to ban online betting ads.
Speaker 1: Is what she had to say.
Speaker 17: I think they're scared, really, they're scared of the very
Speaker 17: strong gambling lobby who also made significant donation and political donations.
Speaker 17: They're scared of the power of the media and also
Speaker 17: the sports codes that stand to benefit financially from online
Speaker 17: gambling ads, which have tripled in the last decade. So
Speaker 17: the government now has to weigh up what the community
Speaker 17: wants versus what the powerful stakeholders want, and I really
Speaker 17: hope it will come out and make the right decision
Speaker 17: there now.
Speaker 2: Of course, remember it is Peter Dunden who in a
Speaker 2: budget in reply speech has talked about the pairing back
Speaker 2: at advertising around gambling. But no, apparently it's a to
Speaker 2: your ideal, Linda. Again, there is a group of people
Speaker 2: who'll turn around and say, sugar tax, we've got to
Speaker 2: deal with that. The vaping issue, we've got to deal
Speaker 2: with that. The gambling issue now, we've got to deal
Speaker 2: with that. There's an awful lot of people who want
Speaker 2: to ban an awful lot of things the Australian seem
Speaker 2: to actually enjoy.
Speaker 1: Can't we just be trusted to our own devices?
Speaker 6: Well, this is about in the lead up to a
Speaker 6: federal election, isn't it. The Teals would love nothing more
Speaker 6: than to go to the election talking about the importance
Speaker 6: of these kinds of social issues. But in reality they're
Speaker 6: in a tough spot. As you point out, Paul, they
Speaker 6: in conservative mostly electorates in Australia, and they've got to
Speaker 6: find a way to think about whether or not they
Speaker 6: oppose Peter Dutton's nuclear plan, which of course they're electorates
Speaker 6: are so overwhelmingly against. That puts them in a tough
Speaker 6: spot of indicating which of the major parties they might
Speaker 6: be supporting if there's a hung parliament, and of course
Speaker 6: they really really don't want to do that, so pivoting
Speaker 6: to gambling and gambling ads is an incredibly sensible thing
Speaker 6: for those Teals to do. Of course, we saw Labour
Speaker 6: MP after Labour MP speaking to the condolence motion of
Speaker 6: the wonderful Peter Murphy who so steadfastly and in such
Speaker 6: a dedicated manner fought to have committee recommendations from the
Speaker 6: Parliament too and gambling advertising, and we saw Labor MP
Speaker 6: after Labor MP stand up in the Parliament and speak
Speaker 6: to her incredible legacy on that issue and the importance
Speaker 6: of this. I think it is a reform the government's exploring,
Speaker 6: but ultimately this is about political framing for the Teals
Speaker 6: and them trying not to talk about whether or not
Speaker 6: they support nuclear power.
Speaker 2: All right, now, speed round, But I'm going to get
Speaker 2: into specialist topics for both of you here, Caroline, you
Speaker 2: led the way with the reporting on this ridiculous bakery
Speaker 2: thing and the birthday party in the mass all this garbage,
Speaker 2: Nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So this is the story about a four year old
Speaker 16: who had a her Ma themed birthday cake and her
Speaker 16: themed birthday party that I did a story about a
Speaker 16: month ago. Now at the time, due to all the outrage,
Speaker 16: I contacted New South Wales Police to see if they
Speaker 16: were investigating it, if any report had been made, and
Speaker 16: they had not received any report, but they begun investigating it,
Speaker 16: referred it to the federal police, who I have regularly
Speaker 16: been checking in with and understand that they've been looking
Speaker 16: into the laws to see whether any law had been broken.
Speaker 16: You'd think glorifying terrorism would be in offense in this country,
Speaker 16: and in fact, the laws that the federal government brought
Speaker 16: in last year were specifically supposed to do that. That's
Speaker 16: what Mark Drefis was spooking that among the Nazi symbols
Speaker 16: and other things that they were banning, there was within
Speaker 16: the bill a clause that would deal with glorification of
Speaker 16: terrorism praising a terrorist event. And yet the AFP confirms
Speaker 16: with me this week that it had dropped this investigation
Speaker 16: because it did not believe that any law had been broken.
Speaker 16: So it seems people can go ahead and throw their
Speaker 16: child a birthday party with a picture of a Hermas
Speaker 16: official on their cake. I'm sure the boy really asked
Speaker 16: for that. We're so sorry for that child, and nothing
Speaker 16: will happen. And yet this government and this Prime Minister
Speaker 16: is saying that they condemn anti Semitism, they're taking strong
Speaker 16: action on radical Islamism, when they just walk past these incidents.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm with you. Also.
Speaker 2: I want to recognize, Linda, that there was parliamentary inquiry
Speaker 2: into funding in and around councils, but I'm slightly out
Speaker 2: of time, so we will get back to that at
Speaker 2: another time. But seven billion bucks would be a nice
Speaker 2: way to fund our councils. You've explained about how all
Speaker 2: of that has worked in the past. I'm out of
Speaker 2: time now to do it properly. But next time you're back,
Speaker 2: you go first. All right, Thank you, Linda, Thank you Caroline.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break, and then the wonder of all,
Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly joins us to preview the big debate tomorrow.
Speaker 2: With the lights on in the Microsoft. It's been too long,
Speaker 2: but she's been on holiday. Welcome back to the beautiful
Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly.
Speaker 10: Hi, how are you now?
Speaker 1: Of course, let's talk.
Speaker 2: About the debate all roads leading to Friday our time.
Speaker 2: You can see at eleven am here on Sky News.
Speaker 2: But I wish you were the one who was moderating,
Speaker 2: not the Trumpeters at CNN.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling in the build up.
Speaker 10: I don't see it like that. I'm sure they'll do
Speaker 10: a fine job.
Speaker 15: I think of the CNN ers who you'd have to pick,
Speaker 15: they picked the best too. I know Jake Tapper's not
Speaker 15: a big Trump fan, and I'm sure Dana Bash isn't either,
Speaker 15: but I think on this the biggest night of their careers,
Speaker 15: they're going to behave. They're smart enough to know.
Speaker 10: I mean, I've already been.
Speaker 15: Seeing some of Jake's coverage of like the Trump trial
Speaker 15: in New York, and he's playing it right down the middle, Paul,
Speaker 15: right down the middle. So I expect to see that
Speaker 15: that night. And I will say this, you know, the
Speaker 15: one upside of not doing it is I've had a summer,
Speaker 15: you know, I've had a June.
Speaker 10: I've traveled with.
Speaker 15: My family, So you know, you get one of these debates,
Speaker 15: and it's your whole life. Every hour you're thinking about
Speaker 15: how can I upgrade my questions? Have I thought of everything?
Speaker 15: Can I be tougher? I need to be fair? What
Speaker 15: about this?
Speaker 10: Anyway?
Speaker 15: I'm excited to watch it, I will say, and then
Speaker 15: to come and if I'm wrong about those anchors, I
Speaker 15: will rip them to shreds on our next appearance.
Speaker 2: Now we know that everyone is deeply preparing from the debate,
Speaker 2: from the people hosting it to at least one of
Speaker 2: the two participants, But Trump is not. I think this
Speaker 2: is a problem, and I know that he's going to
Speaker 2: be able to wing it with the age that he
Speaker 2: thinks he's going to. And one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: you practice is to make sure that you don't get
Speaker 2: half a sentence right, as opposed to something that stuffs
Speaker 2: up and creates a whole new world of problems for you.
Speaker 10: Here's why I'm worried too.
Speaker 15: It's not I think he'd still make comments that are controversial,
Speaker 15: and that's fine.
Speaker 10: People are kind of used of it to that with Trump.
Speaker 15: But I'm worried because as Trump has gotten older this
Speaker 15: time around, he is rambling more there's definitely there's no
Speaker 15: comparison to Biden. I'm not making that point, but he's
Speaker 15: become a bit of a rambler, and the practice would
Speaker 15: be beneficial for him to practice getting up and down
Speaker 15: on a topic. You know, just this is your in
Speaker 15: and this is your out, and these are the three
Speaker 15: points you make on that issue, right, this is your end,
Speaker 15: this is your route, these are the three points you hit.
Speaker 10: And if he could.
Speaker 15: Memorize, you know, six of those, on immigration, on abortion,
Speaker 15: on the economy, you go down the list, I think
Speaker 15: he'd be in good shape if he could just remember
Speaker 15: those to stop the rambling. Now there is a time limit,
Speaker 15: so that's good. That'll help stop rambling, presumably on both sides.
Speaker 10: But I think everybody could benefit from a.
Speaker 15: Little practice on these subjects. And look at what Trump does,
Speaker 15: what his kind of self declared practices. These rallies, Well,
Speaker 15: that's a one man show. There's no no one interrupting Trump.
Speaker 15: It's stream of consciousness in front of a loving audience.
Speaker 10: This is the opposite of that.
Speaker 15: The only one who's going to love Trump in this
Speaker 15: whole production is Trump. The anchors don't like him, Joe
Speaker 15: Biden can't stand him. I don't think that the topics
Speaker 15: selected are going.
Speaker 10: To be Trump friendly.
Speaker 15: I'm sure we're going to be doing a fair amount
Speaker 15: of January sixth, and you're going to pardon the insurrectionists
Speaker 15: and things like that, and so he's I hope he
Speaker 15: does have some concise points he can make in a
Speaker 15: way that will resonate with the viewers at home. Having
Speaker 15: said that, his biggest mission is to say something memorable
Speaker 15: that will get people talking and ideally make them laugh
Speaker 15: or make them fondly remember the moment, and I think
Speaker 15: he's very capable of that.
Speaker 2: Now, give us a bit of an insight to somebody
Speaker 2: who's hosted one of these things before, been a debate moderator.
Speaker 2: Are you the type of person who works up to
Speaker 2: the big question which is going to produce the big moment?
Speaker 2: Or is it like you know that moment where supposedly
Speaker 2: you go to prison and the first thing you do
Speaker 2: is to go up and slap the biggest person in
Speaker 2: the yard. I wouldn't be able to do that, but
Speaker 2: you get my point. Do you go for impact first
Speaker 2: or do we build up to the biggest moment of
Speaker 2: the debate.
Speaker 10: Well, that's my style on the debates I've done.
Speaker 15: I like to pull no punches and you know, get
Speaker 15: them all right away. But it's on, let's go. This
Speaker 15: is adversarial. I'm not here to please you. You're not
Speaker 15: here to please me. This is about the people behind
Speaker 15: me watching at home, like, let's do this thing. I'm
Speaker 15: not going to go easy on you, and I shouldn't
Speaker 15: go easy on you, and let's see if you can
Speaker 15: handle And that was what was so great about Trump's
Speaker 15: answer to me and that debate.
Speaker 10: He could handle it. He was funny, he wasn't thrown.
Speaker 15: He was self deprecating in a bit, and he kind
Speaker 15: of said what we all knew, which was people have
Speaker 15: gotten sick.
Speaker 10: Of how political politically correct we are, and you know
Speaker 10: what I say is what I say.
Speaker 15: That was his answer after the Rosie joke, which had
Speaker 15: people laughing and on his side and showing he's not scared.
Speaker 15: He can make fun of other people of himself. So
Speaker 15: it's a big opportunity. It's a I think it's a
Speaker 15: gift to them in a way. You know, you throw
Speaker 15: your fastball and they could potentially hit a home run.
Speaker 15: If they hit a home run off of a fastball,
Speaker 15: then it's absolutely brilliant for them politically and for TV,
Speaker 15: which let's not forget.
Speaker 10: This is not some.
Speaker 15: Basement debate between kids. This is television and you have
Speaker 15: to make it electric and dynamic to keep the people's
Speaker 15: attention at home. You want a memorable moment, You want
Speaker 15: everybody talking about you, what you didn't keep