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Speaker 1: Scottie Douglas, mega starman about town, paramedic, educator, inspirer of

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Speaker 1: the masses, quickly risen to the top of the typ

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Speaker 1: popularity fucking chart, so happy with himself. Get to him

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Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll get to him in a moment,

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Speaker 1: Tiff Cookai.

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Speaker 2: He's so good.

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Speaker 1: I muscled in on this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is.

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Speaker 1: And you two had a little bit of a romance

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Speaker 1: before we went live can flattering each other. I just

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Speaker 1: did a little bit of spew in my own mouth.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Wow, good paramedic.

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Speaker 1: Oh don't we it's I mean, yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: borrow his outfit so I can go and get you know,

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Speaker 1: public adoration and free coffee, free coffee.

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Speaker 2: You get plenty of that free coffee he got pretty much.

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Speaker 2: That's it's the discount suit. I heard someone caught one.

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Speaker 1: Day, Hey mate, what's your heart rate?

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Speaker 2: I was going to tell you sixty six?

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Speaker 1: Sixty six? Yes, did you hear what his heart rate

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Speaker 1: was the other day?

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Speaker 2: Tip?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred and twelve, and then and then

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Speaker 1: like and then a few minutes later it was like

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Speaker 1: one twenty something. That's just excitement, it is, mate, It

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Speaker 1: is did do people in all seriousness, did people have

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Speaker 1: a listen to the chat and did they like it?

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Speaker 1: From your side of things, Scotty, Yes, it was.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, it's kind of amazing, and then it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit embarrassing and then you don't know how

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Speaker 3: to say thank you, Like you don't know what to say.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like that when people read my

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Speaker 3: book or when you do nice things for people, Like

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Speaker 3: it's one of the biggest things I had to learn

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Speaker 3: when I was sick is how to say, how to

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Speaker 3: accept thanks and how to give thanks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wonder what that What do you reckon

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Speaker 3: Either of you?

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Speaker 1: Like, why are we so when someone says do you

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Speaker 1: think that's a union? An equally Australian thing when people go, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're ace and then we tend to go, no, I'm not,

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Speaker 1: I'm shit. What do you reckon that's about? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that's a self estate?

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Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent agree with there because yeah,

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Speaker 3: because obviously so for me, I've had the privilege job

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Speaker 3: being involved in situations where people that you say, oh

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Speaker 3: you made my dad alive, thank you, right, and you

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Speaker 3: brush it off and go yeah, that's just doing my job.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. But when I was sick

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to say thank you to the people that, literally,

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Speaker 3: like the surgeon that comes saw me after my first surgery,

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Speaker 3: and the people that would were going out of their

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Speaker 3: way to make me comfortable, I realized that I had

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Speaker 3: been very bad at accepting thanks from people, because here

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Speaker 3: I was trying to give people thanks, like legitimately and

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, genuinely saying thank you so much,

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Speaker 3: you literally are saving my life, and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing my job, and I would sometimes you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously nicely grab them and so no, no, no, no, please,

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Speaker 3: I need to tell you that you're amazing. Like so

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Speaker 3: I probably agree with him.

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Speaker 2: I think Australians maybe just go yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: But yeah, when you upon reflection, when you think about

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Speaker 3: what some people's jobs contain down big.

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Speaker 1: Jobs, yeah yeah. When that little episode happened with the crab,

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Speaker 1: I got a letter from I don't know who's the

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Speaker 2: I don't know because that has changed a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I got a letter.

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Speaker 3: If it was Tody Walker, he kicks ass. If it

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Speaker 3: was Tody Walker, he kicks ass like he was a

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Speaker 3: good boss.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I've got it somewhere like this beautiful letter from

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Speaker 1: like thanking me for what I did. I'm like think

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I just fucking was waiting for you blokes

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we got some really nice feedback. But so

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Speaker 1: I wanted to keep the conversation going. And one of

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Speaker 1: the first episode or the first installment with Scott, everybody,

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Speaker 1: paper and crayon and progressing from there. But there's a

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Speaker 3: So I'd become a chef quite early in my life

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Speaker 2: So I was always felt very safe there.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I had a bit of a cooking school.

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Speaker 3: We did lots of catering for lots of cool functions.

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Speaker 1: And what was the like was there a tipping point,

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Speaker 1: Like was there something where you went, I'm sick of

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Speaker 3: I've never been sick of cooking. Always love it. I

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Speaker 2: Like. I never hated it. I never resented it.

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Speaker 3: Scotty man, that feed was so good, and then they'd

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Speaker 3: You know, everyone is not everyone, but so many people

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because when I was in talking, I loved

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Speaker 2: It's a really funny thing.

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Speaker 3: Like I got to travel the world and I got

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Speaker 2: But it is a little bit of a like it.

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Speaker 3: Is almost like you're playing some days it's I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't know, there'll be people listening to this guy.

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Speaker 2: I've got matesut of chefs and they're super serious. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you're in the middle of it. I was very

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Speaker 3: Part part of the problem is, Craig, you think about this, right, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then to stop it? Does you then have

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Speaker 3: There's no choice that you are going into that building,

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Speaker 1: Right right right, and how long from you and your

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Speaker 3: So I'm going I'm going to you need to do

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Speaker 3: like that. So, and having worked in very small towns,

440
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: it's not dis similar to that.

441
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: Can I just point out as a sidebar how many

442
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: calories you would burn climbing up one kilometer of ladder?

443
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

444
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: Do you know what?

445
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: Avers? Do you know what a versa climber is, Scottie.

446
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: No, no, but you're going to tell tip.

447
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what a versa climber is? So? Aversa

448
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: climber is google it while you it's a machine, Well,

449
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: it's a it's a piece of cardio equipment in the gym.

450
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: It's maybe the hardest piece of cardio equipment where you're

451
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: climbing and legs and arms.

452
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah.

453
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Cool, yeah, yeah, they're they're a motherfucker. And so that's

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: like the real life versus climber with no stop button.

455
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

456
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: Look and sometimes you're wearing what's called a BG four,

457
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: which is an encapsulated breathing device, and you have that

458
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: on you and you can't take it off once you've

459
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: got it on.

460
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: So you've got a face mask. You can't like it,

461
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: let you so, And I think they weighed maybe twelve

462
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: to ten kilo.

463
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: So you've got that in your back, and some of

464
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: the ladder ways are so small because I've been cut

465
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: by hand.

466
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: You have to take it.

467
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: Off and put it in front of you and push

468
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: it forward. So but you don't know that you're going

469
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: to be okay doing that until you go and do it.

470
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: Like I didn't realize that I loved being underground until

471
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: I went underground, and I didn't realize that for me,

472
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: it was a very comfortable place. It never felt enclosed

473
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: or small. But I have certainly been with people who

474
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: know you escort them down, you know, one and a

475
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: half kilometers to a big room, you know, and they

476
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: get out of the car and vomit right because it's

477
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: too much for them. But you don't think that about yourself.

478
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense. I didn't know

479
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: how I was going to react to being a kilometer

480
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: underground until I was, and I realized I loved.

481
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: It, like I genuinely.

482
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: It was like a big playground to me, and I

483
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: was very lucky. The people I worked with felt exactly

484
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 3: the same, so they were just as excited as you

485
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: were to go underground.

486
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: This is a weird question, but being a kilometer underground

487
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: is there a different energy? I don't know if this

488
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: is the right word, yes, but like, is there like

489
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: what does it feel like being a kilometer under the earth?

490
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: It is funky like it's so I remember the first,

491
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: very first time I was taken down.

492
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: By it's called the shift Boss.

493
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: He was a big cousin bro Mary Got, a lovely,

494
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: lovely guy, and he's he was very clever because he's

495
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: talking to me the whole way down because he probably

496
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: knew I was were in my pants, right, and so

497
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: he's explaining to me what's going to happen. And I'm

498
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: trying and I'm trying.

499
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: To be oh, yeah, mate, I'm cool. I'm cool.

500
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: You know, clearly was not cool. And so he's he

501
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 3: is such a lovely guy. He's just telling me this

502
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: is what's going to happen next, and this was going

503
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: to happen next.

504
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: Blah blahlah blah blah blah blah.

505
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: So we literally pull up and if you can imagine

506
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: if the been in the burning tunnel, that's sort of

507
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: what it's like.

508
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: Like.

509
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 3: This literally places to eat your lunch. This, you know,

510
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: really well made rooms like you sort of forget underground sometimes,

511
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, And so we pull up and he says

512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: to me, look, when you get out of the car,

513
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: just go slow.

514
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: And so when you say car, hang on, hang on,

515
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: what do you mean car?

516
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the land?

517
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're driving on a road underground? Yes, yes,

518
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: I thought you were like going down in an elevator

519
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: or something.

520
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh. Now, because if you can imagine, the drive is

521
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 3: what it's called is like the Burnley Tunnel, but massive

522
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: because it has to fit the biggest tructure you've ever seen.

523
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: They are hauling or from the face from where they're

524
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: digging for want of a better word. Their trucks are

525
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: taking that up to the surface. Right.

526
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Well, you can drive down those roads, wow, which you do. Right.

527
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, so we pull up, I get out of the.

528
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 3: Car and I'm basically sort of faint because it is

529
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: really oppressive and you're not used to it, and it's

530
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 3: really like it's yeah, it's very different, and there is

531
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: certainly an energy that you don't that you're not used to,

532
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: but then you get used to it. And so he,

533
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: you know, he came over and he's like laughing, going,

534
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: oh you know, I said.

535
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh you know, and I was sort of my head

536
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: was spinning and.

537
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: You guys, just take some breaths. And I'd literally standing

538
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: there with my hands on the knees taking some breaths,

539
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: and he said, you'll get used to it. And I

540
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: was very lucky because I did get used to it

541
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: very quickly. Whereas there are people that you will escort underground,

542
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: like geos or people like that, they have to go

543
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: and look at something and they won't like it. And

544
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: I've certainly been in the car with people who say

545
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: how long will it take to get back to the

546
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: service and you go forty five minutes if we say

547
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: it's an emergency, and they go oh, and you go

548
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: is it an emergency? And they're like, man, I just

549
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: want to I want to see the sky, and you

550
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: go okay, okay, and then you quite quickly take them

551
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: back to the surface.

552
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

553
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Here's my other weird question. So we know that at

554
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: sea level that I might fuck this up a little bit,

555
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: but it's something like eighty eighty one percent nitrogen and

556
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: twenty percent twenty point nine to three or something oxygen, right,

557
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: and we know that the higher we go, the less oxygen.

558
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: Ye blah blah blah.

559
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: What's the nitrogen O two balance a kilometer underground do

560
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you any like is oxygen the same or less or more?

561
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: So?

562
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: What's going to by the way, an amazing question because

563
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: I have to learn this, and that's a very clever question.

564
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: So when you are doing any kind of work underground,

565
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: and I'm unspeaking about underground mining, you have to calculate

566
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: how many trucks are going to be in that area,

567
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: what their burn rate is, so how much oxygen they

568
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: burn and how much diesel they put out. And there

569
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: is a guy called a vent engineer who controls the

570
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: air that's sent down to the mine. So if you

571
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: can imagine, we have these big vent stations that pump

572
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: air down into the mine. So you can stand, you

573
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: can stand next to one of those vents, share and

574
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: then walk out in front of that bent and if

575
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: you would get blown away. So I've done it a

576
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: couple of times before. See handrails on that where you're

577
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: hanging onto a handrail and you're flapping in the breeze,

578
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: because that's how powerful.

579
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: The air is that's coming down that vent. And there

580
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: are vents.

581
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: To take the air out as well, because it has

582
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: to be scrubbed and cleaned and measured because obviously the

583
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: more trucks you have, the.

584
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: More oxygen you're burning, and then the more.

585
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: Diesel particulans you put out into the atmosphere that has

586
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: been breathed by a couple hundred people.

587
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: So hopefully I've answered your questions. I didn't want to.

588
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: No, it's great, just because I think about like, you know,

589
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: when you go to altitude. I remember, I don't know

590
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: if I was talking to you about this. Maybe I

591
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: was when we had a coffee, but I remember when

592
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: I was in a place in Colorado called Breckenridge, which

593
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: is eleven or twelve thousand yeah, which is yes, yes,

594
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I remember, eleven or twelve thousand feet above sea level,

595
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: and dummy fucking Jumbo Harper goes, I'm going to go

596
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for a run, and I go, yeah,

597
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I know, there is a bit dinner, and I'm like, yeah,

598
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm a weapon around about seventeen feet and

599
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Nelly died. Like I was going to run five k's,

600
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: I literally ran four hundred meters, had to stop, tail

601
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: between my legs walk back because I couldn't breathe, and

602
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, it's just that. And then I was

603
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: thinking about underground on top of that you've got all

604
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: the carbon monoxide or whatever diesel pumps out, but all

605
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: of that being pumped into the air down there, Yes,

606
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: trying to manage and I mean with the size of

607
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: those fucking trucks and engines and all of those fumes,

608
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: like trying to create a healthy, breatheable, sustainable environment. I

609
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: mean that seems like the ultimate science experiment on top

610
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: of everything else.

611
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean that is and that is literally someone's job.

612
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: That is event indineer's role.

613
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I have to make it compatible with life

614
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: so people can go down and sometimes it's too hot,

615
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: like I've certainly been underground in areas where yeah.

616
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: It's at the fate.

617
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: This is what it's called, you know, is in the

618
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: high forties and so then and when and part of

619
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: your role is to look after the guys that are

620
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: down there and constantly checking him and do high hydration

621
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: testing and you know you will encounter people who are

622
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: consuming twelve to fifteen liters a.

623
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: Day of water.

624
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Wow, And is that the main physiological challenge? Like like

625
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: what are the other variables? Sorry everybody if this is boring,

626
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: but as a body, as someone who's weird about bodies,

627
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: so hydration, thermoregulation. I'm guessing body temperature. Yeah, just the

628
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: mental health. Like, so they get up and it's dark.

629
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: H they go into the dark and then they finish

630
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: and it's dark. So guys who are on the say, see,

631
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: they normally do a day of nights and sorry, day

632
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: of days. In the day of nights, we watch them

633
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: on their eleventh out of fourteen fifteen days because that's

634
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: normally when incidents occur. And then when you go and

635
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: visit them, they are quite pale. They have this great

636
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: look about them and predominantly again these are underground miners

637
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: and then a lot being doing it a long time

638
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: and they do a lot of self care. They have

639
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: a lot of chats with it amongst themselves. In A

640
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: massive part of your role is staff morale and like

641
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: we just we will sometimes just as we go down

642
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: to the to where some drillers are and take them

643
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: lollies to drop in and say, hey, you going, do

644
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: you need anything?

645
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, we have a whole bunch of

646
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: kit cats, you know.

647
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it breaks up their day and it's and

648
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: it's taken you at least two hours to get there,

649
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: and I'll take you two hours to get back to

650
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: the surface, you know, so.

651
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: They know that's a big thing to do that kind

652
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: of stuff.

653
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible, and I would I would imagine that

654
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: from as you mentioned, but from a mental health perspective,

655
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: that being in that environment, even with good conditions, even

656
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: with good workmates, even with you drop an in going

657
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: here's a KitKat. Yeah, it's like that's got to be

658
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to turn into a were

659
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: wolf after about six weeks of that, or no, a vampire.

660
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: So I was.

661
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: I was involved in a mental health in mining project

662
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: and I've got to you know, unfortunately, I got to

663
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: speak at a few conferences and miners or what's called

664
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: the resourcing sector, the men am nine times more likely

665
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: to harm themselves or commit suicide than.

666
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: The national average.

667
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: And so when you go and spend time in those places,

668
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: I believe you can understand why. Like you are, like

669
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: I do, too on, too off. So for two weeks,

670
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm literally immersed in a circus. Yeah, so you get up,

671
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: you're fed on and off buses. I mean, I love it,

672
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. Right, So I'm not hope I'm

673
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: not painting a dark picture. But the people that you

674
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: work with are very really, very very good at what

675
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: they do. You constantly are learning things. You are constantly

676
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: having to learn things because someone will make a statement

677
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: about something which is not even in your lane, but

678
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: you have to go figure it out. So the time

679
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: that you spend with those people is very tense, especially

680
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: in underground mining, because you are literally and part of it.

681
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: You do sometimes get into an elevator.

682
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: Or something like that, or a cage and you go

683
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: underground for ten hours and the blackstand and next to

684
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: you literally is handing you rods if you're a driller,

685
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: and then you eat with that person.

686
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: All your meals, and then you come home with that person.

687
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: Then you only get on a bus and go back

688
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: to camp, and depending I've worked on dry camps, I've

689
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 3: worked on wet camps. You know you're having a mess

690
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: and you all eat together and then hopefully which normally

691
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: is there's some kind of activity after dinner or before

692
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: dinner where you go pay volleyball or something all together,

693
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: or you play frisbee, or you can walk, or the

694
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: someone playing music. But it is super intense, and you're

695
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: very very far away, and it feels far away from

696
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: the people that you love and the people that you

697
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: want to talk to. So it's a very it's a

698
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: very intense and compressed environment.

699
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: I reckon.

700
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell me about work looking at the Isle

701
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: of Man or at the tt for so firstly I know,

702
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and Tiff knows because she rides a motorbike.

703
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: But tell tell our listeners what the Isle of man

704
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: TT is.

705
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: So Isle of Man TT is the longest running road

706
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: race in the world. It's I wanted to.

707
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: Go there from a very very early age, like I

708
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: used to watch it with the Gentleman the man. I

709
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: did my apprenticeship with my first ever really cool boss

710
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: and he was a former Australian Superboil champion who had

711
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: ridden at the island race of the Isle of Man

712
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: So when so sadly when he passed away, I was

713
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: given a small earn of his ashes to take there.

714
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: So I actually had to go there in twenty fifteen

715
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: to take those ashes there. So I had at the

716
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: time was working for the London Ambulance Service and I

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: applied to work there as a marshal or just a volunteer.

718
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah stuff, I go, and so I had to do

719
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: a whole couple of weeks of riding and tests and

720
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff to qualify to be allowed to

721
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 3: be a volunteer. Then I was staying at the volunteers

722
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: camp and which it was amazing, like it really really was.

723
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: The people I met there.

724
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: I still talk to some of those people you know

725
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, But for me, I mean it

726
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: is if you watch the footage, like it's insane the racing.

727
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Can we just can we just point out to people

728
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: that in the isle on the Isle of man t

729
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: T by the way, motorbikes not cars. Just not that

730
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: you said cars, but just so people know what we're

731
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: talking about and that these people are not racing around

732
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: a circuit like Albert Park or they're literally racing around

733
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the island. The road roads that the that the residents

734
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: use every day. Yes, at over three hundred kilometers an

735
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: hour sometimes, yes, that is correct. And these are roads

736
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: that are not built for racing.

737
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: No, they're roads normal and when you ride on them,

738
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: when you ride on them, like you realize, like when

739
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: you're going past a building that's a meter away and

740
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: you're doing two hundred plus qlumeters an hour, Yeah, yeah,

741
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: you do have a shincter moment.

742
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: You go, that's right, and you're riding through towns and

743
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: past farms and past sucking businesses at yeah, the speed

744
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: of sound, and yes, and like some of them. I've

745
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: never been there, but I've watched it a bunch of times.

746
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: And you see people coming over the top of a

747
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: bit of a rise, yes, and again they're airborne and

748
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: these floaks are just like off the ground for a

749
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: hundred or not one hundred, but probably twenty thirty forty feet.

750
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're like to watch it.

751
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: And then so for me, so obviously that was one

752
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: of the most emotional moments I've ever had in my life,

753
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: like getting off the ferry, Like there's all little kids

754
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: with flags, and there's probably a couple hundred, maybe a

755
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: thousand motorcycles all starting at once, and I remember being

756
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: very overwhelmed the very first time I went there, And

757
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: just you know, in your life, you will have moments

758
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: where least shoul say, I feel on your hand your child,

759
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, for the first time. Was one of those

760
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: moments for me. And so I then had like a

761
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: conversation with God.

762
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: While I was riding.

763
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: I was riding in one of the practice laps, and

764
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: I came over a rise doing about two forty, and

765
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: I had a bike beside me. And as I went

766
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: over the ridse, obviously the bike gets lighter and it

767
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: lifts up off the track and it slid across the

768
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: white line.

769
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: And so I speaking about two forty and it's the bike.

770
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: The back end of the bike started to wobble and

771
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: I actually went and everything went very quiet in my helmet,

772
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: and I literally, I mean, without coning down a rabbit hole.

773
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: I went, hey, God, I promised to be a better

774
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: person if you help me.

775
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: It was a very unique moment for me because I'd

776
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: never done anything like that before. And the bike just

777
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: straightened up and off I went again, right, and I went, oh, okay,

778
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: And so it was very Yeah, it was kind of

779
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to die, and then I didn't,

780
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: and then you.

781
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Go, wow, cool, So stop. Did you keep your end

782
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: of the bargain with God?

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: I was going to say, here's the here's for me,

784
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: which is what I believe in. I believe in karma.

785
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: So that's twenty fifteen. In twenty sixteen, I'm in my

786
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: tent in the volunteers area, and there's everyone in there

787
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: is a volunteer generally and a lot of medical staff,

788
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: so people like amazing people.

789
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: From all around the world who don't have the time

790
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: to come and work at the isle.

791
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Man like some really high end surgeons, doctors, trauma surgeons

792
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. Right, And we'd had

793
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: a dinner, so I half met everyone, and I'd gone

794
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: to bed, and so I'm in my long Johnscause freezing

795
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: and my tent gets opened it's about ten o'clock night

796
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: by a guy named Jack Smith. He's like, mate, you've

797
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: got to come with me. You've got to come into town.

798
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: They need you in town. And I said, Jack, this

799
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: is not funny. If this is a joke, it's not

800
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: a funny joke, mate, He goes, no, no, please, please,

801
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: You've got to come into town.

802
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: So literally put a.

803
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: Pair of crocs on, apologize, put my helmet on my motorcycles,

804
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 3: park right next to my tent, and start my bike.

805
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: Follow Jack, who's on a motorcycle out of the volunteers

806
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: camp down this road and there's a police car parked

807
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: in the middle of the road with the boots open.

808
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: Because I didn't know, but they carry medical stuff in

809
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: their boots. This guy's waving me down. I watched Jack

810
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: Parky's bike get off, run into this massive big house.

811
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: I just ignore this copp up. Run into this massive

812
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: big house. Go into the lound room. It's a beautiful

813
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: english man out like it's amazing, and there's a gentleman

814
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 3: on the floor in his forties and someone who's.

815
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Performing CPR on him. So I'm like the probably the

816
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: second or third person in the room.

817
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: So that you take off my helmet, I try and

818
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: get a little bit of an understanding what's going on.

819
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm on the airway. Jack starts doing CPR.

820
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: Then after that there's a steady stream of people that

821
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: keep coming into the room. Some of them are recognize

822
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: from the meetings I've had some of them.

823
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: I don't now.

824
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: If you're on the airway, that means you're in charge.

825
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: So I theoretically was in charge of this kardiak arrest.

826
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: So for people who watch TV or know a little

827
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: bit about medicine. So we had the monitor on and

828
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: we look at the screen and the person is in

829
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: what we call a shockable rhythm, and so there's probably

830
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: seven people crouched around this man, and I'm supposed to

831
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: call it, but bearing in mind I've probably met two

832
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: of the seven people ever. And I'm in a PJS,

833
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: so I'm pointing. I pointed at the screen and go

834
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: are we happy to shock that? And everyone nods and

835
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: goes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So we shock that

836
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: the patient. So we do that maybe three times. We

837
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: put in a cany you light. So we put a

838
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 3: needle in the gentleman's arm, and we put an airway

839
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: in the patient. So that man goes into what we

840
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: call ROSK, which is return of spontaneous circulation, so he

841
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: has so his heart starts beating by itself.

842
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: After about three minutes. So then the ambulance comes.

843
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: The people in the ambulance volunteers, so they don't have

844
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: the kind of qualifications so we have in Victoria. So

845
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: we helped place that patient in the back of this ambulance.

846
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: And Deb who runs a hospital in Liverpool, She's like,

847
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: oh gorah. So this gentleman is alive theoretically and goes

848
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: on to live. And so we go back to camp.

849
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: I go to bed, crazy, crazy night, like incredible situation.

850
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: The gentleman that woke me Jack Smith, he was so

851
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: inspired by what occurred, and he was a petrochemical engineer.

852
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: He worked on oil rings.

853
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: He went back to Union to become a paramedic. I

854
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 3: went to his graduation last year in Scotland, which is amazing,

855
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: and we've stayed in contact, like we ring each other

856
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 3: once a month, Like he went to a really bad

857
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: job about a month ago, rang me up and we

858
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: had a long chat about He's still one of my

859
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: best mates and I will see him in about eight

860
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: weeks when.

861
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: I go to Scotland.

862
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: When I go to Glasgow the next morning, I'm sitting

863
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: there eating baked beans in the mess.

864
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Because it's a mess for all the volunteers, and this

865
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: copper can't dressed.

866
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: This gentleman dressed like a very serious looking police officer

867
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: comes in. I got my head down and he says

868
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: I need to speak to the Australian that's in the camp,

869
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: going ah shit, I think he wants to speak. So

870
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm not saying nothing, like I want to speak to

871
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: this dude. And then someone says that's him over there

872
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: in the corner. So he comes over and he's like, oh,

873
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: he'd say he was the chief of police. So he

874
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: wants to have a chat with me, and I'm thinking

875
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: I'm in trouble because that's like I'm in Australian.

876
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: That's the first thought when the police speak to you.

877
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: And he says, and he says, oh, you're involved in

878
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: that instant last night. I'm going yet I'm.

879
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: Going to jail. Wow, I wonder what jail in the

880
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: other man's like.

881
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: And he said, oh, who, I said, I'm a paramedic.

882
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm a registered paramedic in the UK and I'm a

883
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: registered paramedic in Australia, and I'm trying to explain to

884
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: him that I certainly am qualified to be working on

885
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: that patient. And then he says to me, Oh, the

886
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: man's alive and his family wants to say thank you.

887
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I'm my god.

888
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Think.

889
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Oh cool. Right, So to come along story short, we

890
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: get a photo taken. They then we do this thing.

891
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: They give us the key to the city and they

892
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: think it's funny to take a photo of me handcuffed.

893
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: So they handcuffed me.

894
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: And all these places stand around me and take a photo,

895
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: right because I'm an Australian, right, So they then put

896
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: that on Facebook and it goes out into the ether.

897
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: So and I mean, they'd write a lovely email to.

898
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: Ambulance Victoria say thank you so much for lending us

899
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: Scott for the two weeks of the island man blah blah,

900
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: bah blah blah. But they also put out a photo

901
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: of me handcuff it. So if you can imagine, like

902
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: I had to say, how many people going, I always knew

903
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: you'd end up handcuffed, always knw you it ended up

904
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: in trouble, But I guess, and that was an amazing

905
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: like it was an amazing incidents. But I guess the

906
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: point of making this Your question was did I pay

907
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: back God? Did I do the thing that I said

908
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: I was going to do.

909
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: I would say yes.

910
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: I would say ironically like I do believe in karma,

911
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: and I did ask whoever in twenty fifteen to help me,

912
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: and then I had to repay that in twenty sixteen.

913
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: And that gentleman is you know a lie. Look I've

914
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: met We went back into twenty seventeen. I'll got to

915
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: meet him. We had dinner like it was an exceptional situation.

916
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: And I mean that gentleman got world class care because

917
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: of where he literally lived. He lived ninety seconds away

918
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: from some of the best trauma surgeons, emergency people on

919
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: the planet who happened to be there as volunteers.

920
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Wow, that's incredible, dude, it's so interesting.

921
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: All right, one, we've got about five to eight minutes

922
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: the lake. Tell me about the lady in Prague that.

923
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh right.

924
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: So we've been riding all day and we went to

925
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: a town called Bethlehem and we'd had lunch and it

926
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: was one of the loveliest meals I had. And I

927
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: was with I was with Cooney, who's an ex Queensland

928
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: Police officer, and we were traveling through Europe together and

929
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: I had my partner, my girlfriend with me son, she's Dutch,

930
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: and we'd gone to this lake to have a swim

931
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: and I mean, i'd love water is such.

932
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: A big part of my life. And so we.

933
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: Parked the motorbikes under the tree, you know, we'd splash

934
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: it in now of the water. It was a beautiful

935
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: day lights and lots of people there. If everyone's ever

936
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: been to Lake Dales with that's that's sort of what

937
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: the vibe was there. So lots of you repeating people

938
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: in and out of the water. So so I'm laying

939
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: on the tent and I think, so I'm laying under

940
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: the tree. Sorry on a towel, and I think to myself, oh,

941
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: I'm still a bit hot, I might get back in

942
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: the water.

943
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: And Cooney and Sona asleep and we've got all our

944
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: camp and our bikekids sitting under this tree.

945
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: So I go into the world about waist deep and

946
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: I look out.

947
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: I can see this what appears to be.

948
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 3: A lady and I think, oh, she's not doing that well.

949
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: And I'm like looking at her and I'm going, oh shit,

950
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: I think she's drowning. Which I just probably swam okay,

951
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: I reckon, and I was tired and we'd ridden all

952
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: day and I had a full stomach for food, and

953
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: so I was like, oh my god, I definitely think

954
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: she's drowning.

955
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: So I'm my fuck.

956
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: So I literally start swimming out to her, and I'm

957
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: swimming out to her watching.

958
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, she's drowning. This is not cool.

959
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: And so I get out close to her and she's

960
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: panicking and she's probably mid forties, quite a bigger woman

961
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: and really really short, and she's grabbing at me in

962
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, great, and something have to probably give

963
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: her a smack. So I probably gave her a bit

964
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: of a smack to explain the situation to her, and

965
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: then I start.

966
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Bringing her back into.

967
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Shore.

968
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: And so I'm screaming and trying to swim and trying

969
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: to pull this lady into shore, and I'm getting closer

970
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: and there's no one really doing anything. There would to

971
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: be hundreds of people in this little cove, and yeah, yeah,

972
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: it was really interesting because no one was really helping.

973
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know why. I don't know, like maybe

974
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: if you can't swim, because you know, I can swim,

975
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: so maybe some of those people couldn't swim. Anyway, So

976
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: I got closer enough that I thought I could touch

977
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: the bottom, so I let it.

978
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: I sort of I couldn't. I went I went under.

979
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: That has a bit of a wake up cool.

980
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: So then I come back up again, grabbed her and

981
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: she's very heavy dragon. And then finally this guy who's

982
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: in skinny white dude in really big broad shorts, he

983
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: comes running down and we find out later he's an

984
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: off duty fireman and he's on the phone and then

985
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: he's yelling at his girlfriend, who spoke literally half dozen languages.

986
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: She was amazing because obviously I'm speaking English, right, yelling English.

987
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: They're asking me lots of questions in whatever the language.

988
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: And by now there's quite a large group of people

989
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: watching and excuse me, I'm sort of looking at what's

990
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 3: going on.

991
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: So Karney wakes up, looks up and goes, oh, something's

992
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: going on.

993
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: Guarantee you Scot's involved, grabs my trauma bag, which I

994
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: carry on a modebike.

995
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: Waltz is over.

996
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: And tells me lady, you know, pushes his way through

997
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: the crowd, and then there we are sort of resuscitating

998
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: this lady and the gentleman who was an off duty fireman,

999
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: he called his friends and they came that They came

1000
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: in what can only be described as a ninety.

1001
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: Fifties aircraft fire truck. Was insane.

1002
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 3: It was massive, and this little white like nineteen fifties van,

1003
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, and these guys, three guys got out, always white.

1004
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: One was a doctor, and we successfully resuscitated this lady

1005
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: and you know, she was she was vomiting and trying

1006
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: to talk to us, and she had to talk to

1007
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: the off judy fireman's girlfriend, who then would said say.

1008
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: To me what had occurred? And we're talking to her.

1009
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: She had diabetes, and we did her blood sugars and

1010
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: we discovered that she you know, had maybe a hypo,

1011
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: so she.

1012
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Had a lot of Schulgren and gone into the water.

1013
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: But so she was trying to think. So I had

1014
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: my seth escape on severyone thing. Everyone's going doctor, doctor,

1015
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: and I'm.

1016
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Trying to explain to them I'm not a doctor, but

1017
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: they no one cares. Was always got a set escape,

1018
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: must be a doctor.

1019
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: And she beautiful and she was hot. Yeah, yeah, I

1020
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: I recommend it carried on all dates. And so she

1021
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: was trying to say thank you to me, and she

1022
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: said the check word for angel, which I then had

1023
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: to learn, and the girl it translated that for me.

1024
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 3: And so yeah, that was That was like my day

1025
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: off in the Czech Republic.

1026
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it's never boring, and tell us

1027
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: where you're off too, because I know you're going away

1028
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: this week. You got some stuff came up in the

1029
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: next weeks and months.

1030
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go to.

1031
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Caratha on Monday for two more weeks, and then I

1032
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 3: go to Ireland and then you Europe for eight weeks.

1033
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: I go every year, I go and work on a

1034
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: farm over there, and I have a tiny house on

1035
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: the farm. And then I'll say lecture at one of

1036
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: the unis there and I'll probably do.

1037
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: Some lecturing in Glasgow. I think i'll go see Jack,

1038
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: he's a paramedic. Yeah.

1039
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: So, and what do you do? What do you do

1040
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: on the farm in Ireland?

1041
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: Like a farm, Like it's a normal farm.

1042
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: So like you get up at four o'clock in the morning,

1043
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: you move to cows around, you work on the harvests,

1044
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 3: because harvest.

1045
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: That's why I go that this time.

1046
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: You like they're harvesting, so the harvesting wheat and grain,

1047
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: and we clean the harvesters, work on the harvests, work

1048
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: on the.

1049
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Bailers, clean the tractors.

1050
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: Like you just smell of cowshit and wet mud the

1051
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: whole time you're there, but you eat some amazing food.

1052
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: I go to CrossFit, which I don't.

1053
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: Do here, but I go across fit there and I

1054
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: swim in a place called Sandy Cove, which is where

1055
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: a lot of the English Channel swimmers train. It's a

1056
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: it's an island and it's a one point eight kilometer

1057
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: swim around the island. And I try and do that

1058
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: once a day and it's freezing, like the.

1059
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 2: Water is absolutely freezing.

1060
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: You're a maniac. Well, mate, I wish we had more time.

1061
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: We don't, but I reckon we could do a series

1062
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: with you. We could do a series with you, you know.

1063
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: I please don't mean to INTERRUPTO. I was gonna say

1064
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: one more thing.

1065
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: The idea that this isn't amazing for me to be

1066
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: on your podcast is ridiculous.

1067
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: Like it is for me.

1068
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a fanboy moment, Like I remember

1069
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: speaking to you five years ago. I've always listened to

1070
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: your staff. I just don't want that to be diminished

1071
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: by the fact that I'm clearly quite comfortable talking to you,

1072
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: like it still is amazing, Like it's amazing, like it

1073
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: really is to be on your podcast, Like I genuinely

1074
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: feel like I'm walking in the steps of giants.

1075
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: That's want to say thank you?

1076
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well mate, very I feel like saying that's not warranted,

1077
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: but I won't. I'll just say thank you and take

1078
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: some of my own advice. But yeah, I like, honestly,

1079
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean, today was like an episode of you know, Seinfeld,

1080
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: like a conversation about nothing but everything you know, and well,

1081
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. It's like, I just like talking

1082
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: to you. I just find you interesting and you know,

1083
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: even in the last minute or two. Oh yeah, I

1084
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: go to Ireland for eight weeks and I work on

1085
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: a farm, like and then I swim around this island.

1086
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: You know, I just won. You're very well. I mean,

1087
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: the whole point of the show really is about having

1088
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: good conversations, and certainly I've done that with you twice

1089
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: thanks to you and Tip this time as well. So mate,

1090
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you. I'd love to have you back

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Speaker 1: when you get back. And I just think that, like

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Speaker 1: your energy and your enthusiasm and your positivity is infectious.

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Speaker 1: So it's you know right backatch, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Tell people about just give your books a plug and

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Speaker 1: where they can get those, and yeah.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to go check out the website,

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Speaker 3: which is beautiful and has some lovely photos of Ireland

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Speaker 3: on it, go to www dot Horatio dash Jones dot

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Speaker 3: com dot au.

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Speaker 2: Just go check out the website if that's.

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Speaker 3: Cool, and then yeah, have a look and if you

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Speaker 3: want to buy a book, that would be absolutely lovely.

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Speaker 1: And did you have you had a look at our

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Speaker 1: By the way, everyone, if you haven't heard of our

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Speaker 1: Facebook page, go there the You Project Facebook page, You

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Speaker 1: Project Podcast Facebook page. Lots of nice feedback for you.

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Speaker 1: Did you read it?

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Speaker 3: No, because I don't get embarrassed quite easily with that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But if you say there's lots of nice feedback, that is,

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Speaker 2: I'm very that's lovely. Thank you. I tanged you. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much.

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Speaker 1: I also said to you, I said to you yesterday

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Speaker 1: and send your message. Did you listen to the show?

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Speaker 1: You're like, no, I don't like my voice, and I wrote,

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Speaker 1: try harder.

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Speaker 2: It's you did. And I still even now like I

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Speaker 2: am not comfortable at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll get over it. TIF Do you like Scotty.

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Speaker 1: I like Scotty. I love Scotty. You're such a captivating storyteller.

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Speaker 1: I felt like a kid listening at storytime.

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Speaker 2: Then it's so good. I know one question? How do

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Speaker 2: you spell Horatio? Okay, so h O R A t io?

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Speaker 1: And when you well, not in the middle of winter,

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Speaker 1: but when we get towards the submission stage of the year,

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Speaker 1: the PhD submission stage of the year, also known as summer,

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Speaker 1: the three of us should go for a ride.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, that would be lovely, it really really would.

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Speaker 1: Let's do that. We'll say goodbye affair. But for the moment,

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Speaker 1: Scottie Thank you, appreciate it. You have a good trip, enjoy, Enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Your travels, no worries. Thank you.