WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 29 April 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.080 Wait wait, welcome wait. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.640 Babe, Well, good evening and thanks for your company. I'm 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.360 James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Joe Hildebrand coming up tonight. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.000 They say there's only one Don Bradman, but maybe they're wrong. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.160 Maybe there's a second. We'll show you the cricketer fourteen 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.360 years old who has absolutely stunned the sporting world. Plus, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.560 when we get to the papers, ambulance Victoria forced to 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.040 admit they held not one but two funerals in violation 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.760 of pandemic rules, and the Labor Party embroiled in a 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.879 scandal over Chinese campaign volunteers. We'll get to all of 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.360 that shortly, but first, as you just saw on Paul 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.800 Murray Live, we had the alternative Prime Minister right here 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.959 in the studio answering questions from people all around the country. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.880 He talked about everything from taxes to regional development and 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.080 the woke virus, and I got to ask Joe and Liz, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.440 where has this Peter Dutton bean. He came across as strong, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.200 he came across as personable, He came across as relaxed, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.360 sincere and a person who genuinely is concerned about making 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.000 Australian lives better. You just have to wonder whether perhaps 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.039 the media haven't given him a platform such as he 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.280 got tonight where he can just relax be himself. He's 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.240 not avoiding and dodging gotcha questions, He's just talking to 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.320 ordinary Australians about what he plans to do to make 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.840 the country better. My favorite part, Joe, of the interview 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.080 tonight was where Peter Dutton was asked about domestic violence, 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.440 and of course he talked about his experience as a 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.959 police officer in Queensland and I've got to say it's 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.280 so nice and refreshing to hear from a politician with 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.720 what do they call it, liz lived experience, someone who 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.160 hasn't been in politics his whole life, but has been 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.560 out in the community doing the sorts of things, facing 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.000 the sorts of things, grappling with the sorts of issues 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.640 that normal people deal with. And the way he answered 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:04.800 that with incredible empathy, compassion, a man who understands normal 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.240 people because prior to going to politics he was one. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:09.320 He had a life. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.240 Oh we love that in our politicians, and sadly it 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.560 is a rarity when you get career politicians like Albow. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.679 Has he ever had a job outside of politics. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.280 Joe, His job is politics, Liz, he lives. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.160 Oh that's the best ancey, you did work for a year. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.960 Inc's a short answer is no, he hasn't. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.960 That's all he's ever done. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.880 But you're quite right, it's refreshing to hear from an 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.639 alternative prime minister who, prior to that, like you say, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.880 as a cop, has seen people from all walks of life, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.960 in all kinds of different situations than had to deal 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.360 with them there on what we call the front lines 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.800 here in Australia, on a daily basis, year in and 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.320 year out. It was incredibly refreshing. You ask, where has 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:56.119 this guy been the length of the election campaign? I'd 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.560 say all politicians play to the crowd that they're addressing, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.519 and we all we all know that you guys sitting 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.760 at home, you're a. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.760 Friendly crowd when it comes to the Libs. Whereas he 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.520 has been under a lot of attack this election. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.360 I mean, you've got this alban Ezy government who's determined 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.320 not to be the first one term government since the 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.720 nineteen thirties. I don't believe that was ever going to happen, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.840 and I do believe that we will see a labor 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.000 win on Saturday. But these guys have been the underdogs 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.320 all along, and I think you've got to play your 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.160 cards accordingly. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:29.400 Yeah. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.360 Look, I thought it was very lovely and warm and intimate, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.520 and it's good to see politicians be human, and I 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.120 don't think we see enough. And I think a lot 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.440 of us in the media we say, oh, you're two dimensional, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.840 you're just doing the talking points, and then the minute 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.880 a politician actually starts to speak and talk as a 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.720 human being, we jump on anything that they say that 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.560 deviates from the norm and then we beat them about 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.880 the head for it. So I think that is an 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.880 unfortunate thing. And it's good to see Peter Dutton sort 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.560 of have that kind of just conversational, kind of fireside 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.200 chat kind of tone. I think he's I met Peter 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.840 Dutton a number of times informal settings, social settings. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.160 I've always thought it was a really nice, decent man. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.760 I've never liked the demonised Dutton campaign, but it has 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:21.880 been incredibly effective and I think that and I think 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.359 there's also been circumstances sort of beyond his control. But he, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.600 you know, he for a while it looked like being 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.080 Trump like was a real election winner, and it was 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.320 until it wasn't, and that's hurt him and the policy 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.920 the policy stuff I think has also really hurt him, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.960 the fact that things like the working from home debate 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.400 got away from him. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:41.920 Yeah, I mean it could have. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.400 It could have either perhaps been kept within its rails 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.920 better if it had have been out there percolating in 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.920 the community for longer so they understood what it was, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.480 or it should have been killed off a long long 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.880 time ago, you know, at first sight, instead of instead 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:56.919 of halfway through the campaign. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.080 So I don't know. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.440 I mean, it's hard to know what, if anything turn. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.560 I mean half the nation, almost a third at least, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.480 have already voted, and so it's very hard to know 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:08.520 what could win it from here. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.279 But you know, he's a good guy. Good guys are 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:12.000 there in politics. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.200 It was a great interview and well done to not 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.200 just Paul Murray for hosting that, but to well over 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.120 twenty Sky News viewers who sent in really good questions. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.360 Of course, the last time the Coalition had great momentum 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.840 was really back in October twenty twenty three, when they 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.400 defeated the Voice referendum. Australians overwhelmingly rejected that you remember 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.680 about sixty percent voting no. And at that point, all 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:40.360 the momentum, all the leadership was with Peter Dutton, ironically enough, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.400 addressing a cultural issue. So now we're in the last 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.000 week of the election campaign and a cultural issue, specifically 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.760 Welcome the Country is back center stage, courtesy of those 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.200 people who booed the Welcome the Country at Melbourne's an 0:05:55.279 --> 0:06:00.240 Zac Day service last week. Now, those who booed were 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.520 apparently neo Nazis, but there are many people who didn't boo, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.960 but yet share the same sentiments that Welcome to Country 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.040 is overdone and we have far too much of it, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.680 not least among those people former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.720 And it's become, if you're, like an exercise in virtue signaling. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.200 It's become a badge of political correctness. It's become a 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.560 political statement, a bit like wearing masks became a political 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:32.320 statement during the pandemic. If you weren't an enthusiast for masks, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.760 you weren't taking the pandemic seriously enough. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.440 Now, if you're wondering, I'm not sure, maybe it's not overdone, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.040 Maybe it's okay. I mean if you were watching Master 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.680 Chef last night, can you believe it? They had an 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.960 acknowledgment of country at the beginning of a reality TV 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:48.880 cooking show. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.880 I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.760 upon which this competition takes place and pay our respects 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.720 to the elder's past and present. This is al that 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.159 has always been rich in food and culture. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.039 At this rate, next year they'll be a welcome to 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.200 country before Married at First Sight begins. Liz Tony Abbott 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:14.200 is absolutely right. This thing is way overdone. Could this 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.320 help Peter Dutton that it's suddenly front and center headline 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.000 news in the last week of the campaign? This is 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.720 when he was strongest, when he was rejecting division and 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.640 separating Australians by race. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:26.240 Yeah. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.520 But the Libs seem to have left this alone since 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.760 the referendum was one in their favor. They haven't been 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.920 beating that drum and I think that's probably a good thing. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.680 They more just say as we do. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.800 The people of Australia have spoken, and as you know, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.320 I have said many times on this show. If you're 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.600 a regular watcher, when you hear a welcome to country. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.560 Boom, I've said I do it all the time. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.640 I do it in packed theaters, I do it on 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.760 packed planes, because that is one way for the average 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.720 person like myself to push back on what Tony Abbott 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.200 is rightly called this work virtue signaling. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.600 The elites want to shove it down our throats. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.800 It doesn't matter what you're sad at these days. It 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.920 could be an internal office meeting and you will be 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.960 greeted with a welcome to country. You've got to let 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:18.520 your disapproval be known. And it wasn't just Nazis who 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.840 booed on that day, And I do believe that this 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.640 coming back into light honor Anzac Day is very poignant 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.760 because of all the days and of all the ceremonies, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:35.360 it is the most disgustingly inappropriate thing to be doing 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.400 at these ceremonies. So I'm with the booers on this one, 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.760 not the Nazis obviously, but everybody else. And they were 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.800 large in number who booed that day, because it is 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.000 a slap in the face of our diggers who did 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.040 not fight for a country that they were a guest 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.679 of so that we could all be guests in the 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:59.360 succeeding decades. For crying out loud. But anyway, Abbit's totally right. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.000 It is empty virtue signaling. As we've said, ad nauseum. 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:04.880 I mean, what are you going to do? Give the 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.200 land back? No? No, but we'll give you guys a 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.800 shout out. That's really all that is, Joe. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.080 And the more people who simply acknowledge that, whether it's 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:19.240 booing or whatever you choose to do, the better, because 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.640 it's only until Aussie stand up and say we said no, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.520 cut this junk. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.920 Out, nothing's going to happen. It'll continue. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:27.600 Yeah. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.960 I think booing at an ANZAC Day dawn service is 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.720 absolutely disgraceful and far. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.240 More described they were booming that was. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.760 It doesn't matter, you do, not do that. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.560 It's incredibly disresgret trusting behavior. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.360 And if the idea, the idea that. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.880 You would disgrace and the idea that discussing. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.200 The idea and it was an organized protest, the crowd 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.800 didn't spontaneously start booing, and the idea that you care 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.120 so much about the sanctity of the dawn service that 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.120 you would actually disrupt it and interrupt it with booze. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.160 I mean we are talking about we are talking about 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.800 to do a welcome we're talking about. That is that 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:03.200 is that is what the organizers decided. That is what 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.120 the organizers who is the RSL and the representatives of 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.160 the veteran community. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.640 That was a decision that they made and it was 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:11.080 up to them. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.080 If people don't like it, they can complain, they can 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.040 write a letter, they can talk to the media, they 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.080 can have discussions like we do here, they can go 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:21.560 on social media. But taboo, a commemoration of the war 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.240 dead is a disgusting not what they were doing. That 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.800 That is what the Dawn Service is. The Dawn Service 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.520 is a commemoration. It is a sacred right that commemorates 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.880 those who gave their lives. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.679 For a service of Australia. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.200 Well, until we can exhume their bodies and do a 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.600 straw poll of them, I think we should actually pay 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.320 respect to the services that are there to commemorate and 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.559 if people if people have I don't know if you 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.360 can speak on behalf of the thousands of people who 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.600 have died for Australia. But if people want to voice 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.480 their opinions about that, if they want to say whatever 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.000 they want to say, I have no problem with that. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.080 I don't disagree with a lot of what Tony Abott 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.280 and others have said about the welcome to country and 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.319 the acknowledgment of country, which are two different things that 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.040 people seem to get confused and use interchangeably. But whatever, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.040 I think they both can be overused. But to do 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:11.320 what was done at that dawn service is a disgraceful, UnAustralian, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:12.520 despicable act. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.160 Agree to disagree that there's two things here, isn't there 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.240 There's whether or not it should be done at a 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.439 ANZAC day service. That is the welcome to country, and 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.280 I think most people would say it wasn't appropriate, certainly 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.280 from all the social media and comments I've read. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:27.520 But then how do. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.360 You protest it and what's the most appropriate way. Richard 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.760 Marles said it was important to recognize the important contribution 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.400 Indigenous people had made to the Australian military and that's 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.960 why it was appropriate. But I did some research and 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.240 found you know, there are a thousand Indigenous Australians who 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.880 fought in World War One. There were two hundred Australian 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.760 Chinese people who fought in World War One, but they 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.360 weren't acknowledged. In the Second World War, you had about 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.400 three thousand Indigenous people fighting for Australia. But you had 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.360 two and a half thousand Greek Australians fighting for Australia. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.240 They weren't acknowledged. So that's the problem, not Indigenous that's 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.360 providing our war dead by race. Are you going to 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.600 acknowledge everybody or only one grouping one group? Are you 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.760 really surprised people are upset? The appropriate way to protest that, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.720 that's a different argument. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.920 Liz Indeed, well Till MP Sophie Scomps has sunk to 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.439 a new low shilling for votes. She had the audacity 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.560 to use the example of manly rugby player Keith Titmus's 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.600 very unfortunate, very shock and sudden death earlier this year. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:37.080 She's decided to link that to climate change in an 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.440 effort to shill for votes, which because of course that's 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.760 all the Tills really stand for. Their biggest backer is 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.280 climate two hundred, so of course that is one issue 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.920 that they're very strong on. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.800 Here she was speaking to some would be voters. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.240 So the death of that young man and I'm not 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.040 saying the death of that young man, the rugby league 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.120 player when it. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 Was thirty three degree. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:05.360 Very humid day died from heat stress after training session. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.960 That type of legal humidity is something that the medical 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.120 fraternity is getting more and more concerned about. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.200 You can survive, apparently, the human body can survive if 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:16.680 it's dry. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.880 Heat up to fifty four degrees celsius is pretty hot, but. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.680 With high humidity that level comes down to kind of 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.880 thirty three, thirty even thirty one degrees, So it's something 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:28.520 to consider. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.360 At least get your facts raight, lady. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:36.000 It was just twenty five degrees in November twenty twenty 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:41.760 when Keith Titmas, twenty years of age see Eagles training session, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.400 lost his life. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.480 But how low can you go? 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:52.840 And naturally Keith's mother has spoken about this. She said, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.320 I'm disappointed that doctor Scomps is using my son's name 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.840 to try and gain political political points when all she 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.839 needed to do was read Derek Lee's findings. She's referring 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:09.160 to the findings regarding her son's passing, which mention nothing 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:14.880 about climate change, Like I say, amazing, lo can you 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.319 sink to be like? This is why you should vote 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.920 for me. We are the party of climate change alarmism. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.080 And this is how bad it's getting now. Twenty year 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.920 olds are dropping dead on sporting. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.400 But she's a doctor. She's a doctor, don't you know. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.560 Since when did climate catastrophists care about facts? I mean, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.080 we had the cyclone in Queensland recently and Adam Bant 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.320 was warning, this is terrible. This is another reason why 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.920 we need to quit fossil fuels. All the evidence says 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.840 that cyclones are becoming less frequent, not more frequent, and 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.840 we could cite example after example after example of climate 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:52.080 catastrophists exaggerating the situation or just outright lying. Of course, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:53.560 when don't lie. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.680 And doctors don't lie. And she's a doctor, don't you 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.320 know they're all doctors. All the deals are doctors for this. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.800 When a spokesperson for the Teal Doctor addressed what she 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.160 had said, the spokesperson didn't back down at all. The 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.400 spokesperson said, well, you know, we're desperately sad for the 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.560 tipmus family, but but Sophie takes very seriously the threat 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.200 of lethal humidity. So just repeated the whole line all 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.680 over again. This is typical, though, of climate catastrophists who 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.040 aren't afraid to use people's pain to push their own agenda. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:31.440 As I said, in Queensland, when cyclone Alfred occurred. I 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.240 remember Adam Bant firing off a tweets saying my thoughts 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.760 with the people of Queensland at this time, and then 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.120 he went on for another couple of tweets to talk 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.400 about this is why we need to fight climate change, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.200 get rid of fossil fuels, vote out the Dutton government. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.440 His thoughts were with the people of Queensland for a millisecond, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.520 and then the rest of his thoughts were about how 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.720 he could leverage this for political advantage. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.200 Exactly right, And this is the real issue here. It's 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.920 not whether you know people are right or wrong or 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.880 where the facts are. We can have all those arguments, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.240 we can have those debates, brash him out here every night. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.000 The question is how absolutely cooked do you have to 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.800 be to think that you can just pull out the 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.720 example of another mother's dead son to try to score 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.840 a political touchdown. And again not to hark on it, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.880 but you know, it's the same as my argument about 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:22.120 violating the dawn service. Whatever your political position and let 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.040 a thousand flowers bloom, surely some things are off limits. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.600 And I would dare say that rather than lethal humidity, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.280 that is the problem here. I think doctor Scott's is 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.920 suffering from some lethal stupidity, because anyone who could not 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.200 just see that that raw death of that beautiful young 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.600 man is a giant red flag that you shouldn't even touch, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.960 even if you could get your facts straight, let alone 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.280 if you can't that, I mean, that is the definition 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.920 of a fanatic. That is the definition of an extremist. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.240 It is someone for whom the cause is so absolute 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.720 and so great that all these other considerations, matters of 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.920 life and death don't actually occur to you. So and again, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.040 that is what I think is wrong with politics these days. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.280 Well, but she's a doctor. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.160 She is a doctor. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.760 Let's not forget that, as is doctor Monique Ryan, who 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.919 her staff have been told to make sure people know that. Well, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.080 we've got good news and bad news from Canada. The 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.000 good news is the Liberals have won the Canadian election. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.359 The bad news is they're the wrong kind of Liberals 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.240 in Canada. Of course, the Liberal Party is the Progressive 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.280 Party and they have won the election which they were 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.439 not expected to win in January. Indeed, in January it 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.919 was the Conservative Party who were on track for a 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.440 landslide win. But then a couple of things happened Donald 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.879 Trump put twenty five percent tariffs on Canada and started 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.760 joking about them becoming the fifty first state of the 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:52.240 United States. Then Justin Trudeau resigned. Mark Carney took over 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.480 and made what would have been a referendum on Justin 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.719 Trudeau into a scare campaign about Donald Trump having won 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.239 the election. He's show he's not prepared to let up 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.879 on that scare campaign. He is his victory speech. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:09.680 As I've been warning for months, America wants our land, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:17.440 our resources, our water, our country never But these are 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:23.240 not These are not idle threats. President Trump is trying 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.560 to break us so that America can own us. That 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.560 will never that will never ever happen. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.520 Now, some interesting things in Canada, and I wonder if 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.520 we can extrapolate to what might happen here in Australia 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.600 next Saturday. The Conservative leader certainly was campaigning on things 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.400 like cost of living and other issues like that which 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.480 you would have expected to resonate, but then he was 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.199 cast as a mini Trump and certainly seems to have 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:57.280 suffered from that stereotyping. Seven point three million Canadians voted early. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.760 We're seeing a similar trend here in Australia. As well 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:04.600 of as Peter Dutton being cast as a person aping 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.960 Donald Trump by the Labor Party. F the Albanese in 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.960 his speech the other day spoke repeatedly about the Labor 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.280 Party do things the Australian way. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.520 It's our way. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.440 We're going to use our people and our strategies, which 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.560 clearly was an inference that Peter Dutton and the coalition 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.520 are copying Donald Trump, who of course is the devil, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.160 therefore don't vote for him. Clearly that association with Donald 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.720 Trump has absolutely destroyed the Conservative campaign in Canada. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:34.399 Let's talk about that. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.919 But are there any conclusions we can draw about what 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:38.160 might happen here? 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.320 Well, I don't know if we can extrapolate it this far. Canada, 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:47.840 obviously being their closest neighbor and a massive ally, simply 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.760 did not take well to Trump teasing about next in Canada, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:57.200 and certainly in a country like Canada where seventy five 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.560 percent of their exports. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:00.880 Go to the US. 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.000 If a president of the United States of America is 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:08.000 talking about tariffs the way Trump has been doing, you've 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:13.320 got a mass amount of Canadians who are immediately offside. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.120 Like us, They've been suffering through a cost of living 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.880 crisis for a long time now, so anything like that 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.399 that's going to make their lives that much harder on 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.760 that greater scale. I hate to say it, but Trump 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.320 really handed it to the Liberals in Canada this time round. 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.119 They've just won their fourth straight term in power. Once 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.879 True Door resigned, we were all rejoicing in the streets, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.320 being like, finally this is the Conservatives time to rise 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:46.040 in Canada, and we all loved Pierre Polivier, which who 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.560 also copped a lot of Oh, is very trumpy, he 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.240 all his trump isms. People were loving him for that 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.960 until they weren't. The poor guys actually lost his own seat, 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.560 as was confirmed just to couple of hours ago. So 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:06.920 this has turned into, almost overnight a landslide in the 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.719 opposite direction of what was expected. Finally seeing the end 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.640 of Justin Trudeau, who we know was a World Economic 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.119 Forum Darling. Hate to tell you, you've got exactly the same 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.240