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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitz and Whipper podcast.

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Speaker 2: She's a topic relationship that was exposed last night in

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Speaker 2: the video. Well that's that was released at around about

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Speaker 2: six o'clock last night. I was going, no, there can't

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Speaker 2: be footage of it, can they can't be? It is

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Speaker 2: pretty full on. Okay, So it involves the two sisters,

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Speaker 2: Jade and Jasmine's in there now. Jasmine's married to Carl Stephanocks,

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Speaker 2: so Carl was there as well. You've got Michael Clark,

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Speaker 2: who was with Jade Anthony Bells there as well. Here's

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Speaker 2: what happened in the video.

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Speaker 3: Thank you she.

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Speaker 2: Can but no, that's every me up, don't talk, can

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Speaker 2: give me stop?

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Speaker 4: She that's confronting. I mean, Michael Clark has obviously lost control.

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Speaker 2: In that moment.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened in the lead up to

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Speaker 4: that moment either, because if Carl, if Carl Stevenovick is

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Speaker 4: walking away, it sounds like there must have been an

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Speaker 4: altercation between the two of them as well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Jade is with Michael Clark now, she's making an allegation

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Speaker 2: that Michael Clark hooked up with his ex girlfriend Pip Edwards.

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Speaker 2: On December seventeen, and he was also texting and saying

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Speaker 2: to her, you're the love of my life. I want

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Speaker 2: you to come to India with me. He's denying it,

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Speaker 2: like to the point where he was and I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't like it when people do this, you know,

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Speaker 2: on my daughter's life. I didn't do it. I didn't

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Speaker 2: do it. But Pip has now come out and commented

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Speaker 2: and said, I don't want to be involved with this circus.

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Speaker 2: Michael and his true nature has taken responsibility for his actions.

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Speaker 2: And I was blatantly lied.

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Speaker 4: To, he said. Michael Clark said, I was lied to it.

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Speaker 2: This is what.

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Speaker 6: Sort of would think that maybe if they did hook up,

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Speaker 6: she didn't think they were together, because in that they

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Speaker 6: allude they're sort of saying as well that Pip and

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Speaker 6: Jade have spoken.

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Speaker 7: That's how it's all come to light. So maybe Pip

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Speaker 7: didn't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe then she reached out to Jade and said, this

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Speaker 6: went on a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Here that I need to point out who's in the

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Speaker 2: bushes doing the video because it.

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Speaker 4: Looks like you can see where that they almost look

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Speaker 4: like they're hiding behind like a timber paneled fence at

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Speaker 4: the end of the video. They're the ones, you know

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Speaker 4: for the Stefanovics. You can't get in an Uba, you

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Speaker 4: can't get a NUSA. Everything is go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's throw to a professional tom. When you're in

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Speaker 2: a bush and you are feeling what's the best too?

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Speaker 2: Is it better to be behind the bus stop?

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Speaker 4: Sand dunes are often the.

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Speaker 2: Sand duns are not the way to go. But as zoom,

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Speaker 2: do you have what what? What's the best?

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Speaker 3: Just?

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Speaker 2: Three times on the iPhone guys.

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Speaker 4: Three times World Under the Daily Telegraph, Sex and Out

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Speaker 4: as the front pages, Michael Clark commented on the jacket

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Speaker 4: he's wearing on the front page.

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Speaker 7: It's not his best shot.

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Speaker 4: It's not his best shot. That's probably they've gone with it.

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Speaker 4: What I'm trying to work out. You're right in that

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Speaker 4: part in what sounds like that main argument towards the

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Speaker 4: end about whether Michael Clark or what was going on

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Speaker 4: on the seventeenth of December, it sounds like Jade has

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Speaker 4: somehow contacted pitt Ye to try and work out what's

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Speaker 4: going on, and she massive move.

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Speaker 6: She sort of says she's seen the texts, That's what

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Speaker 6: she say.

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Speaker 2: She's read it. Yeah, and she's also spoken to pit.

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Speaker 2: You're right, this is a huge thing. When you suspect

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Speaker 2: your partner of cheating, do you contact the other person

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Speaker 2: the other person that they're cheating thirteen, twenty fourteen. If

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Speaker 2: you've done this before, remember that story.

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Speaker 4: I told you about a guy that used to work

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Speaker 4: here and he received a phone call from another bloke saying,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to let you know I've been seeing

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Speaker 4: your wife. I think your wife is cheating on you.

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Speaker 4: So he was the other guy and said, I need

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Speaker 4: to double check that this girl is I think she

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Speaker 4: might be mad, and then he explained the situation. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's my wife. You've been seeing my wife. So then

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Speaker 4: he said, look, why don't we catch up. I want

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Speaker 4: to confirm this, and that this guy was at a pub,

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Speaker 4: drove to the pub. They both sat in the car

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Speaker 4: and worked out what had been going on and that

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Speaker 4: she'd been seeing both of them at the same time.

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Speaker 7: What a horrible feeling.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Because you would get a lot of

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Speaker 2: pushback as well. You would get a lot of people

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Speaker 2: denying it, Yeah that's not me. Or I would like

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Speaker 2: if someone gave me a phone call and said, look,

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Speaker 2: I've been with your wife.

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Speaker 6: You have Jason busy fingers and I'm also coming around

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Speaker 6: to fix your fly screen later.

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Speaker 2: Invoice. If he is, well, what the hell I would

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Speaker 2: be Okay, well let's talk through this.

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Speaker 7: And that's the thing. So I had a girlfriend who

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Speaker 7: did this.

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Speaker 6: Dobbed in called the parliments and I was with him.

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Speaker 7: He said that you guys weren't together at the time.

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Speaker 7: I think you probably were.

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Speaker 6: This is it the problem is? I mean, yes, you

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Speaker 6: can do that, but then there's questions. It doesn't stop

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Speaker 6: with the revelation that person wants answers horse.

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Speaker 2: Has this stout taken it to the next level as well?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think back to Gindeel and Pack a Beauty,

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Speaker 2: isn't it in their tracks plumbers cracks showing going their

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Speaker 2: head down at BONDI. I just couldn't think that you

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Speaker 2: could get peak Eastern suburbs more than that. This is

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Speaker 2: this is a heart for the East. This was up

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Speaker 2: in Noosa, but this is Michael Clark top off does

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Speaker 2: a hamstring?

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Speaker 4: Does he still have access to the club? Doctors love

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Speaker 4: to know if you've contacted the other party. Eric in Liverpool,

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Speaker 4: what happened when your sister confronted her.

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Speaker 8: X, so she's he was still in contact with his X,

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Speaker 8: and they they found out, so they conspired together and

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Speaker 8: made a date with him at a local cafe. But

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Speaker 8: he thought he was only going to go see the

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Speaker 8: X on the side, and when he showed up to

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Speaker 8: the cafe was only one there very much and.

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Speaker 4: So he walks in on twitch the penny drops and

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 2: Does he deny? Did he deny it? Deal Eric?

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Speaker 8: Or did he man straight up apologizing? But then the

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Speaker 8: lashing as well, and then they publicly embarrass him, get

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Speaker 8: the water in the face, and then ordered a bunch

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Speaker 8: of food and pissed off.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I had to pay for it. And

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Speaker 2: was Karl Stefanovic there, Eric or you don't know?

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Speaker 4: You were trying to walk away and then he did

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Speaker 4: his amsterring away out the belle had a super yacht

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Speaker 4: in the background. He was doing a Sydney to hober.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know this is a big thing to do,

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Speaker 2: but if you suspect your partner of cheating, do you

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Speaker 2: track down the mistress? Did you call the other party?

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Speaker 2: Did you call the other party. We're talking about the

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Speaker 2: biggest story in the past twenty four hours. There was

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Speaker 2: a fair bit going on, a couple of breakups, celebrity

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Speaker 2: of breakups and in the conscious flight coming in as well,

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Speaker 2: but that's been pushed to the side when the video

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Speaker 2: was released last night of Michael Clark and his partner Jade.

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Speaker 2: This was a week ago up in Noosa. There was

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Speaker 2: a bit of a fight going on and obviously Jade's

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Speaker 2: had a crack at Michael for hooking up with his

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Speaker 2: ex girlfriend Pip Edwards on December seventeen. She said that

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Speaker 2: she'd spoken to Pip. She knows everything. She knows about

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Speaker 2: the messages. She knows that he wrote your the love

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Speaker 2: of my life. I want to take you away to India.

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Speaker 2: He denies it, Pop, but I think he has now

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Speaker 4: He apologized for his behavior.

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Speaker 2: He's accepting all responsibility.

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Speaker 4: I mean the idea of going you know what, I

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Speaker 4: think something's going on. I'm going to put in a

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Speaker 4: phone call like how do you start that conversation? And besides,

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Speaker 4: where were you on December seventeen? What do you?

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Speaker 2: What do you I mean when you ring someone?

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Speaker 4: I just thought I just wanted to ask a question, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you start with?

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Speaker 4: Is this one eight hundred cheters? I mean, what do

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Speaker 4: you go with?

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Speaker 6: The problem is that he gets papped all the time

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Speaker 6: and Pip Edwards gets papped all the time. So they

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Speaker 6: I think they do male have photos of them at

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Speaker 6: a party together that night, do they?

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Speaker 7: Well, they've got certainly the leading up to it.

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Speaker 2: So it's O my God and Daily Marle also tell

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Speaker 2: you what they were wearing on the nine of the air.

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Speaker 4: To describe everything. A glass of champagne in the right

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Speaker 4: hand with orange shorts complimented with green T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Anna from Bellefield. Now, was this your husband or was

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Speaker 2: it a boyfriend? Anna?

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Speaker 9: It was my husband. I had just given birth for

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Speaker 9: my first child, and I was blindsided by the situation.

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Speaker 9: But anyway, he's forgotten his work phone at home and

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Speaker 9: this phone just kept ring ringing, So I just reduild

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Speaker 9: the number, and it was a quite long number. I

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Speaker 9: As this female answered, I knew it was her. I

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Speaker 9: in the heart. It was his ex girlfriend for many

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Speaker 9: years that he left to marry me. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: he had been seeing her behind my back and it

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Speaker 9: was just a horrible situation that I wasn't with and

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Speaker 9: he just was confronted, but they both denied did not

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Speaker 9: deny it, and I just divorced him. The stuff to

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Speaker 9: go through just after having a baby, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And are they still together?

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Speaker 9: No, they're not. And I just think he's cheating on

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Speaker 9: his now partner with her. It's just this wasn't that

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Speaker 9: they like that they watching others.

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Speaker 4: Just don't don't get married if that's if that's your way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just get out of other people's lives.

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Speaker 9: Don't hurt other people, anyone else's life.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I wasn't there around that relationship as well,

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Speaker 2: And I know, no, Okay, let's move on. Sally in

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Speaker 2: dram Morne, you found out that they were cheating through

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Speaker 2: a phone bill South.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one day I just our phone bill was doing

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Speaker 1: and they went through and I thought, oh, that's a

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Speaker 1: really high bill and may being dramatic, It wasn't. It

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Speaker 1: was just Spotify, But I actually ended up being a

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Speaker 1: lot of calls which were quite lengthy to a number

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Speaker 1: that wasn't mine, and I then put that number into

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Speaker 1: pay ID and found out who the person was. And

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Speaker 1: I did call her, and I was pregnant, four months pregnant,

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Speaker 1: and this was in ourselves child and I called her

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Speaker 1: and she was back and blue. I said, are you

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Speaker 1: speaking to my fiancee? She goes, don't know who, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you talk about? And I said his

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Speaker 1: name and she she truly went to bat for room

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Speaker 1: like our praise her and that because she was not

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Speaker 1: giving me anything until when I found her social media

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Speaker 1: and found that she had a fan, and said, well,

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Speaker 1: if you don't tell me, then I'll tell him.

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Speaker 2: Katy was seeing you every weekend? When was your weekend?

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Speaker 3: I was absolutely shattered my first love. It was just

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Speaker 2: I've never gone, have you. There's got to be some

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Speaker 4: That's kat from great story. Thanks for sharing Tommy, your

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Speaker 2: Where were you on der No? Ask your sister man right,

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Speaker 2: It's juicy. Yeah, there's another one that's quite juicy, involming

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Speaker 4: Brilliant Next Michelle and five doc, What was story that

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Speaker 10: I was suspicious that my ex boyfriend was cheating on

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Speaker 2: She's fully open she got sucked in, fully opened up.

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Speaker 10: Completely shocked? He couldn't believe I did that. He had

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Speaker 8: Is busted.

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Speaker 10: Well, he's flie because he said he was going away.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michelle Kaylor in Thornley, you both confronted your cheating

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Speaker 4: Remember there was that website. Of course, is what he's done.

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Speaker 4: All right, you're in the running, guys. Well done free

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Speaker 2: Because I would try to conspire, But what did you do?

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Speaker 5: I gave her everything, like I seen her screenshots of

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Speaker 5: I just sent her everything and she favor them and

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Speaker 2: It's look terrible.

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Speaker 4: For the past half an hour on this topic, guys

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Speaker 2: I think I think all of these assizes that these

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