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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Breaking Even with El Peyton on

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Speaker 1: your official Super Coach AFL podcast feed heading into round

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Super Coach Grand Final Week is here. We

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Speaker 1: have a very special show with me El Peyton joining

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Speaker 1: me on the couch patch. Great to have you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's very exciting to be here, very excited to

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Speaker 2: be in Grand Final week. Good to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Good to have me. Not have any Grand finals to

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Speaker 2: be in, so you know, glarded to be here.

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Speaker 1: You might have a couple. But of course we're joined

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Speaker 1: by a very special guest, Lee Montagna, Official super Coach

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Speaker 1: Ambassador Lee, great to have you back. On you in

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Speaker 1: any grannies this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I think I am.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm in five, but I'm in a lot

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Speaker 4: of leagues now plus starting plenty people had me in,

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Speaker 4: so probably five out of one thousands, not many, but

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Speaker 4: that's all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a couple, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: It's five more than me at this age. So well done.

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Speaker 1: Because it gives you something to play for now if

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Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to have any trades left, worsk goodbad.

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Speaker 1: That's Julie. We will name some Grand Final specials and

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Speaker 1: die deep into who to put the captaincy on this weekend,

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Speaker 1: which will be huge, of course, and we'll have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a look back at our best and

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Speaker 1: worst moves and maybe some lessons that we learned over

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Speaker 1: the course of the year. But first we have some

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Speaker 1: big breaking Super Coach news. Next Monday, we will have

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Speaker 1: a brand new Super Coach Champion who will be fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars richer. And that is a very tight race.

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Speaker 1: If you go back and listen to the fantoms Layer,

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Speaker 1: they discuss that at length. But Super Coach does not

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Speaker 1: end for all of us this weekend. Super Coach EPL

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Speaker 1: of course, is up and running. Super Coach NFL is

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Speaker 1: coming with lots more sports on the horizon as well,

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Speaker 1: and we can reveal today that Supercoach AFL will continue

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Speaker 1: through September with a brand new game, Super Coach Finals.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a nice one. How does that one work?

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Speaker 3: What's that? Well?

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Speaker 1: It is a new Hi, I'm glad you asked, Joe.

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Speaker 1: It is a new high stakes, short format game to

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Speaker 1: crown the ultimate Finals champion. In Super Coach, there's no

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Speaker 1: salary cap, unlimited trades, pick a fresh team every week. Captains,

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Speaker 1: triple points, triple wise captain's double points Pasch. How excited

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Speaker 1: we'd have finals back in Supercach.

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Speaker 2: Very Excity spent a long time Super Coach was were

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Speaker 2: on on the table and I'm very keen to get

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Speaker 2: back into it.

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Speaker 1: Just some of the quick mechanics. We'll get more a

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Speaker 1: lot more details to come out. But you pick nine players.

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Speaker 1: Eight scores count, so one drops off. That will be

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Speaker 1: two defenders, three mids, one ruck, two forwards and a flex.

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Speaker 1: There were with limits on how many players per team

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Speaker 1: in the finals you can pick, but there is a

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Speaker 1: prize at the end of twenty five hundred bucks. So

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Speaker 1: the game is open live. Now get in and start picking.

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Speaker 1: I guess so you.

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Speaker 3: Pick a new team each week for the finals.

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Speaker 1: Correct. At the moment, I suppose there's probably nine teams

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Speaker 1: worth of players in there. But in a little bit

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Speaker 1: be able to actually start deciding who we want to put.

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Speaker 2: In our lineups. Yeah. So yeah, you start with obviously

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Speaker 2: you know, two per team, so you can't you can't

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Speaker 2: And then yeh grand final week you'll have to make

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Speaker 2: a fifty fifty slip basically, which is a very interesting

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean very limited which players you can target,

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Speaker 1: but Joey is someone who's been out there in September.

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Speaker 1: Any insights into the types of player and how a

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Speaker 1: final is different to the home and a wait.

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Speaker 4: Generally final is a bit more contested, probably harder for

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Speaker 4: So I'd be sticking if you can to the guys

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Speaker 4: I regon the intercept defenders can sometimes have a big

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Speaker 4: Home of the Way season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And the fact that we

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and well that's the other huge thing. Triple

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Speaker 1: So that's really going to you know, where you can

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Speaker 2: You can really set you apart there if you nail

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Speaker 2: the cap and if you get it wrong as well

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Speaker 2: on the flip side, you know, you pick a lucky

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Speaker 3: Then that's going to be hard.

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Speaker 4: Separate BoNT and Pali from Dekos, from Jordan Dawson from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, plenty of good player to cheers from. So,

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Speaker 1: some more videos and more content around it as well.

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Speaker 1: But we better turn our focus back to this weekend

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Speaker 1: because there are plenty of league finals on the line,

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Speaker 1: league premierships and of course the fifty K as well,

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Speaker 1: and we know that every super coach knows that managing

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Speaker 1: injuries is a key to success. This is the injury Report,

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Speaker 1: credibly brought to you by HESBF, your health dream team

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Speaker 1: and yes, some big names and not a lot of

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Speaker 1: them but some names that are going to make a

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Speaker 1: big difference. I think in plenty of Super Coach.

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Speaker 2: It'll make a massive difference to the run to fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars as well. Brady Grundy is a test for

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Speaker 2: concussion playing the West Coast Eagles in Perth. Does he play,

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Speaker 2: does he not play? I think the fifty k will

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Speaker 2: be decided by that as well. Hundreds of thousands of leagues,

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Speaker 2: hundreds or thousands of leagues. Zach Merritt, he's going to play.

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Speaker 2: He's twy und fiftieth AM on Thursday night against Carlton

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Speaker 2: Rankin is not going to be playing at this stage.

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Speaker 2: We're recording lunchtime on Wednesday. Looks like the cycle will

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Speaker 2: he won't be playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's probably not knowing what the outcome

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Speaker 1: to affect. He's in forty nine percent of Super Coach teams,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Lord, not a huge name from it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: too many super Coach teams, but he's going to miss

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Speaker 1: that's a bit of a double bonus if you're a

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Speaker 1: zach merit owner that he comes back in and does

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Speaker 1: not cop the tag Tom Gross on my bench. He's

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's pretty big and some big news. I did

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Speaker 1: spot down at Richmond. Obviously Nick Fostone going down with

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe in the VFL. Richmond has some finals suppley there.

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Speaker 1: That is a wrap on it. This week's injury report

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Speaker 1: thanks to HbF make the Smart Move joined HbF your

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Speaker 1: Health Dream Team. So the big question, Joey, you're in

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Speaker 1: Grand Finals, do you have any trades?

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Speaker 4: I'm stuck with Isaac Rankin that I need the trade

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Speaker 4: and I'm not sure I can make it work because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, flex has been a savior this year,

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Speaker 1: and you know, if you can play with twenty two,

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Speaker 1: you know, there weren't too many other land mines that happened.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you just have to cross your fingers

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Speaker 1: and hope that gets through. But it's certainly been a

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Speaker 1: The most popular traded in players this week, and the

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Speaker 1: numbers are not huge, but Tristan Cherry, obviously of his

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Speaker 1: People are trading in Cooper Trim Bath, so he's a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just risky taking Harry McKay.

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Speaker 2: him INVC when he kicks eleven, yeah, actually that's a

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Speaker 1: But I mean some of the other players that I

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Speaker 1: if you have sort of unlimited money, I guess you

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Speaker 1: know Grunted his seven hundred and fifty K nearly Isaac

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Speaker 1: Keeney part of me is five eighty nine and he's

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Speaker 1: up ninety four disposals to Sheezel and Luke Davies Uniack

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Speaker 4: On the line for yeah, potentially, so watch Bailey Smith

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Speaker 4: thick in Philly's boots trying to potentially win a Brownlow medal.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Jess is the other one that I'm sure

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Speaker 1: when people brought him in they probably had their eye

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Speaker 1: on this fixture. And just looking back to last year

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Speaker 1: round twenty four, if you think he might take his

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Speaker 1: foot off the pedal, he kicked nine goals in that

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Speaker 1: game corresponding game against West Coast, So yeah, i'd expect

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Speaker 1: him to kick a few this week. And how many

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Speaker 2: five games? If he gets a massive bag this week,

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Speaker 1: Anywhen else you think he's the obvious one? If you

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Speaker 1: Imagine how many points Rail could score if you'd added

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Speaker 4: I think if the Pheelers Melbourne will just let the

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean the poor Gold Coast game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Honestly you could trading grind Myers and VC and it's probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had so wrong in my team or year.

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Speaker 4: He's been a little bit disappointing, so I'd probably steer

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there' anyone you'd be captaining there

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Speaker 1: unless you know absolute hail Mary, you're watching the live

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Speaker 1: No one else I could really think of in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably go with Nick Dakos vice and then play

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going Jesu. I've gone chips in on

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Speaker 4: that he was one that yeah, didn't probably go to

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00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,359
Speaker 4: the level that I was hoping to.

436
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,159
Speaker 1: Do you remember what your team looked like him?

437
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon I would without No, I don't think

438
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 4: I had a lot more that have set and forget

439
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 4: that I locked in the Dash Brothers Homes and Bailey Smith.

440
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 4: Bailey Smith one was obvious at the start of the year,

441
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,199
Speaker 4: but I don't think we could see that would go

442
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,760
Speaker 4: as well as he did. I went with Sinclair, Remember

443
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,640
Speaker 4: I said Joe Sinclair, even though he was injury concerned. Yes,

444
00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,159
Speaker 4: I just stuck with Jack Sinclair, kaylored Sarong, Nick Daykosmack

445
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,119
Speaker 4: Scorn and so I sort of had a few that

446
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,920
Speaker 4: I locked away throughout the year that, Yeah, I stuck with.

447
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm pretty loyal to my team Patch.

448
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,520
Speaker 1: And he hits and misses from here.

449
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,880
Speaker 2: I had Nas as well all through the year, which

450
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 2: you know, very fun to have him. Yeah, all season,

451
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: a lot of players that, you know, I had eight

452
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 2: guys I think were still there from round one, not

453
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 2: Baily Smith. Bailey Smith was a miss and brought him

454
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:58,640
Speaker 2: in round four, So two smart people to me. Yeah,

455
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,359
Speaker 2: Brayshaw as well was a nice start. I don't think

456
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 2: I messed up the side too much from the premier perspective,

457
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 2: but it was more the rookies. Yeah, like Murphy Read

458
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 2: missing and then trading out Sam pal Pepper after he's

459
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 2: eighteen or whatever it was in round one. Both of

460
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 2: them really hurt a lot more than starting bo Allen

461
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 2: to get you know, a VC scorer in round one,

462
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 2: and then you know whoever else I started instead of

463
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Murphy Reid.

464
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one of my keepers that I've heard the

465
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 1: entire season is Ben Peyton. Yeah, I mean I had him,

466
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 1: and Connor Stone has sort of my you know, had

467
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 1: some nice little DPP flexibility which was sort of useful

468
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 1: in a couple of occasions. But yeah, neither of them

469
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: obviously made really any money or did anything. And I

470
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: would have been much better with some of those names

471
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Speaker 1: that you mentioned, even at Elijah Hewet, who I didn't

472
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 1: start for some reason.

473
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, But yeah, like trading through. I think that it

474
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: shows that you don't really need to nail your starting

475
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 2: side in order to Yeah, that's true south through and

476
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 2: I've had a reasonably good season, So I'm pretty happy

477
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 2: with how I've taken that that set, taking that side forward.

478
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the trades, any that stand out

479
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: that you're really happy with or that to yeah up completely.

480
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: In a round three, I finally got on Joey's bandwagon year. Yeah,

481
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: that was nice. Anderson a few weeks later, oh yeah,

482
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,719
Speaker 2: you know, getting even though trading chasing harn Francis out

483
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 2: the week before he scored one hundred and fifty kind

484
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: of sucked. I did get Bally Smith and Ryan Marritch

485
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: for him, so that was a net win in the end.

486
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, like those guys were, you know, under the

487
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: foundation to build the rest of the team on through

488
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: the year from you know, those early trade ins were

489
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: really I got them right, which was nice.

490
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, horn Francis just sort of seems to come up

491
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: repeatedly when I look back at my mostly my worst

492
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: moves of the year, and I sort of I was,

493
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean knowing as if people will remember over the

494
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: off season, and it wasn't really convinced, but sort of

495
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 1: felt I had to start him, which I did, and

496
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: then I traded him out after his first two games,

497
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: which were pretty underwhelming and at the time like, yeah,

498
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: he went out and scored one hundred and fifty that week,

499
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: and I brought in Matt Rael who scored seventy or something.

500
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: But I thought, this is the dumbest move I've made

501
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: in the history of super coaching if you look at

502
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: that trade in isolation by the end of the season,

503
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: like getting Rare in round three, that's been fantastic, and

504
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: Horn Francis was in and out and didn't score that well.

505
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 1: But unfortunately I went and used another trade to get

506
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: him in and then another trade to get him out,

507
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: and yeah, so that didn't work out. And really the

508
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: fallout from that what really hurt me the most was

509
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: I used the boost that week, but I think people

510
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: were a lot of people traded in. There were sort

511
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: of two obvious rookies that week, which were Riley Bis

512
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: and Christian Marius, and because I did this Horn Francis thing,

513
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: I could only get one of them, and I got Marius,

514
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: So I missed Riley byas that first week when he

515
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: scored one hundred and twenty went up by like eighty

516
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 1: grand or something like that, and I got him in

517
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: the next week. But yeah, just that money just effect,

518
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, as flow and effects all the way down

519
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: the line. I mean, I look at some of the

520
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: amounts that I've spent. I paid six hundred grand for Dacos,

521
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: which now looks fine, but he did get cheaper after that.

522
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: I paid seven hundred for Gorne, seven hundred and thirty five,

523
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty for Grundy, and I paid six

524
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: sixty for BoNT, and all those guys were maybe except

525
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: for Grundy got quite a bit cheaper. That's a tricky

526
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: one though, because I don't want to look back now

527
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: and say I wish I didn't get Max. I wish

528
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get BoNT and Pelli. But you're just trying

529
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: to get the timing right. He's always the trick.

530
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: You worry about the premiums at the start of the year.

531
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: If you lock them and they go in they fluctuating

532
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 4: price or is it sort of still now, if you've

533
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 4: got the premium that you're going to sit and forget,

534
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: like a Max Corn, it doesn't matter because I had

535
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: Max Scorn all year. I didn't even think about his

536
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 4: price going down and up.

537
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: You just, yeah, that's probably the better way to do it.

538
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: Really.

539
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose if you're trying to be.

540
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: Just trying at the stock market, trying to get it

541
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: the exactly right weekend yourheah, do.

542
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: You know exactly exactly, and to get the timing of

543
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: when the trades are there and when you've got the

544
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: player to trade out to make it happen, you know,

545
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: sort of on each of those occasions, it was like, well,

546
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: I've got this guy to trade and I've got the money,

547
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: so bonce there, why don't I just grab him? And

548
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: then two weeks later other people getting for undergrand cheaper.

549
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's very hard to predict.

550
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, you then weigh up there,

551
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, like when I got him with them, he's

552
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: got two sixties in a row, and I've got a

553
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: scoring advantage over the guys that that missed him and

554
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: waited two weeks. But sometimes you trade someone in and

555
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: you know they'll score two and fifty points across two weeks,

556
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: and then other people jump on and you're like, oh,

557
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not fuss about paying extra, even if the price

558
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: is dipped, so it's you know, you win something, you

559
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: lose some. There's no real correct Yeah, and.

560
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I was saved a bit by getting some guys cheaper,

561
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: like you know, I got Butters when his price came down.

562
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: I got home for five hundred, just under five hundred,

563
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: just over five hundred.

564
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: CA.

565
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: Shoud say Callum Mills when he was sort of on

566
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the bubble, I guess at three fifty odd. Now he's

567
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: over five hundred. So he's been a great pick. And

568
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: of course the great Tom McCarthy who saved all of this,

569
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: coming in just at the perfect time ninety nine K.

570
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if he hadn't have been there, I don't

571
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: know who I would be playing.

572
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: He stayed in my team.

573
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: I kept him as a flex the whole because he

574
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 4: kept scoring towards one hundred. It was what you're trying

575
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: to clutch, and I thought, no, just keep.

576
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: Him in there. He's been he's been very reliable.

577
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm close to hat your heart out. Yeah, he

578
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: saved us last year, but you ain't got nothing. I'm

579
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: Tom McCarthy.

580
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: And speaking of flex, obviously, he was a new feature

581
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, how did you find it? Joe?

582
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: Did you do you remember who you started there.

583
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: No, I can't remember who I started early in the season.

584
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: But for me, just using the optimized coach really helped

585
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: with all that, just to be able to get a

586
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: good look at how.

587
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: It all work.

588
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 4: But no, I think we managed to get around it okay,

589
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: but a lot.

590
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Of the time, to be honest, I stuck.

591
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: The one that I regret, I stuck with Tom Stewart

592
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: for the whole Like it was Tom Stewart's driving me

593
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: mad because he was a premium and then it was

594
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: not worth training because he'd lost his value, and then

595
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: thought he'd come good and so he ended up being

596
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: FlexIt quite a bit few weeks.

597
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, frustrating one for me.

598
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: When you can pick him again and see beach.

599
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: Fine, Well that's what I was saying. I've sort of

600
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: I'm off Tom Stewart, but he might be winning finals.

601
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: It might have a big, a big September with the

602
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: way the Cats are playing and the way they set

603
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: the game up for him in the back half of

604
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: the field.

605
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: As a brief little aside, while you're commentating games, do

606
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: you have the thought in the back of your head

607
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: of Tom Stewart's disappeared on this.

608
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: Game, like I need him to get the balls sometimes

609
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 4: sometimes a little bit. Not so much when I'm commentating

610
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 4: because then I focus on the call, but when I'm

611
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: certainly watching other games, you can't help but look for

612
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: your players and wonder where they are at times.

613
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: I saided Matt Flynn in Flex that lasted one week

614
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: when he got dropped. Then he ended up back in

615
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: there for a while for fair chunk of season. Actually

616
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: they're not finished. McCarthy there too. But I think probably

617
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: the most beneficial aspect of it, which I didn't really

618
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: take advantage of when I could have, is that that week,

619
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: one of the things that sort of weighed me towards

620
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: getting Maras instead of Bias is that I had I

621
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: think two rookie defenders that I still liked. They didn't

622
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: really have anyone Obviously I wanted to trade out, but

623
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: I could have got Bias and just stuck him in

624
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: Flex yep. But I sort of passed on that opportunity.

625
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: So that's something that I'll probably try and remember next year.

626
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we sort of thought the three rucks might

627
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: be the obvious way to go, and it has worked

628
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: at different stages, but no, I think.

629
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: Long term like I got so much utility out of

630
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: using the flex for its flexibility. Yes, it's in the name.

631
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: It's not just the not just kind of a gimmick name.

632
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: It's it's I found it so useful to be able

633
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: to move my side around and yeah, do that for

634
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: guys like bias or bring other guys in or you know,

635
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: have a DPP in there. And there was a period

636
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: I had Matt Flynn locked in there, incredibly frustrating because

637
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: then you've got a really you know, nail where you've

638
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: got your DPPs and be really alert as to you know,

639
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: can I move a guy into this position? Do I

640
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: have cover on this line if someone misses? But like

641
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: having flex kind of made that a lot easier in

642
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: a way that just wasn't possible. And I had a

643
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: ruck stuck in there, so I don't think I'll be

644
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: rushing to a three ruck set up next to the year.

645
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just that best twenty two scoring has been

646
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: such a godsend. Like this time last year, I was

647
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: running with two or three donuts and yeah, even with

648
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: bench running it very thin at the moment. Yeah, most

649
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: people were able to get at least twenty two scores. Yeah,

650
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: each week, which is yeah, makes the game a lot

651
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: more enjoyable. I did well.

652
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: You mentioned some worst trades. I just want to get

653
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: a shout out to Shape Bolton. I held you back. Yeah,

654
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: that was not my finest call. It was great for

655
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: three weeks and then he's been thorn in my side

656
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: ever since. I haven't been able to get rid of him.

657
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: It was the Jackson argua. It was Luke Jackson Shae Bolton.

658
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: I think there was a similar price, and it was

659
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: for some reason I got sucked into the Shaye Bolton

660
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: as well, where Luke Jackson would have been a no

661
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: brainer in hindsight, and.

662
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: We chose poorly in hindsight. But that's the way quick crumbles.

663
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: By the talent and the upside, but not the reliability.

664
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: No no, So if anyone brought him in on account

665
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: of me talking him up and then going to Spain

666
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: and not talking about it for a month, I'd like

667
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: to take this moment to formally apologize.

668
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: I did put the code on X and got a

669
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: few replies from some of the great community out there.

670
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy said he best traded he made earlier this season

671
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: was he started Jayden Short. He was a laid out,

672
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: so we switched him to Max Holmes. That worked out

673
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: pretty well. Huge Scud says choosing Neil over Brayshaw haunted

674
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: me all year. Yeah, that's a tough one.

675
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: That got that hurricane. Just it wasn't for the hurricane.

676
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: And I remember that, yeah, yeah, true butterfly effect situation

677
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: where you know there's butterfly flaps that wings hurricane starts.

678
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: I'd start locking Neil in supercoach. So blame the hurricane,

679
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: you blame the hurricane, Blame butterfly exactly.

680
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: A J said. The move I made this year that

681
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm most annoyed was bringing in Tom Stewart in round

682
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: two when I heard Holmes was going to get egged.

683
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if Hopes was tagged or not, but

684
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, who cares. I mean, it just shows that,

685
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: like it's a long season and even if seven does

686
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: get tagged one week, yep, you can ride that out.

687
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: And he said that wishes he had that trade this

688
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: week to use it on ranking Lord. He says dislikes

689
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: bringing in Kieran Briggs in round four. That was a

690
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: bit of a nightmare, but he likes you got marriage

691
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: when he was cheap, he got lucky. Ash when he

692
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: was cheap and nas for five hundred k in round fourteen,

693
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: which was a great move, and Hawksy says, hopefully I

694
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: can brag about bringing Grundy in with the two trades

695
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: I've somehow held for a league Grand final. So maybe

696
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: he's one of the Cooper trend bath owners. He just

697
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: trade someone to him and then use all your money

698
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: to get Brodie Rundy.

699
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: Yep, if you can do it, do it. There's no

700
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: point saving them away.

701
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: No, definitely not now. So just to finish off any

702
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: names perhats that you've been just putting aside in her

703
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: little black book to pick when Supercoach comes around for

704
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, which will be, you know, sooner than

705
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: we think.

706
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be certainly very soon. I've spoken with ark

707
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Archie Roberts a bit the back end of this year.

708
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Really like the way he goes about it. Just full

709
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: lessoned enough for you, But I'm chips in on him.

710
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: Sam Banks I really liked as well from the Tigers.

711
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: He looks pretty good. It'll be you know him or

712
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Tom Brown or maybe look at to see if one

713
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: of them gets a half back roll. Sam Flanders maybe

714
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: possibly depending on what his role is, what he's doing.

715
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Love Tom Green, he'll be underpriced I think for what

716
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: he can do next year. And then you know, maybe

717
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: trade wise, if we look at a Clayton Oliver if

718
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 2: he's in hoops, Darcy Parish if he's in hoops, you know,

719
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: Sam marsh Roland Marshall if he's in hoops, anyone Geelong

720
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: picks up. But and then Mark Bittnett maybe, I don't

721
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: know what.

722
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: About Tom mcconey if he goes to the Saints, he'll

723
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: be probably cheaper than he was this year.

724
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to be honest, if you go back and

725
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: have a look at his numbers first fourteen rounds, they

726
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: were pretty impressive. He was the third highest well more

727
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: the player ratings, not so much the supercach but he

728
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: was the third highest rate of ruckman and averaging twenty

729
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: disposals and he was allowed. I think people forgot that

730
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: his first half of the air good it was, and

731
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: I think that's what Saints fans and the club are

732
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: banking on that. It was the decooning of the first

733
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: half of the year. And I think it's it happens

734
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: when a player probably knows they're leaving, they check out

735
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: a little bit and they don't play.

736
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean I saw it happen with Shae Bolton year

737
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: before it.

738
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: Which then where he probably knew he was coming to

739
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: Freemantle and he's second half he was really poor. So

740
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: I think Tom deaconey is a good one that i'd

741
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: be looking at for an early ruck and I regon

742
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: one little bounce back on.

743
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to say Sam Walsh. If Sam Walsh is

744
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: and he has.

745
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: A full pre season, he's a jet, He's a bone

746
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: and five jet. He just hasn't had a good run.

747
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what he's priced at, but he might

748
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: be one that will be a premium that'll be sort

749
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: of under the under the price next year.

750
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: That you can lock in early.

751
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, definitely, I know it's very early doors.

752
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Would he be concerned if Ron Marshall stays looking at

753
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: picking Tom deaconey, Yes.

754
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: That would be a concern. Yet if they're both there,

755
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure where that'll land. But if Tom mconey

756
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: suit he's won out ruck at Saint Kilda, then the

757
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: one you look at.

758
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Harry boyd Instro, Harry.

759
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: Boy I, Reckon Igan Dodson and Max Heath have gone

760
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: past Hawry the fourth in line now, so i'd stay

761
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: away from him for next year.

762
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Cole names. I love Finn Callahan started in

763
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: this year. Loved having him my team. He was the

764
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: one I had to traded to get Dekos, and I

765
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: really sort of hated having to do that because I

766
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: love Finn as a player. And then he went on

767
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: to score. He'scored better than Dacos for the next few weeks,

768
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: but then he got injured and I sort of would

769
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: have had to trade him away. But he's back after

770
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: the year's been fantastic. He's everything about one hundred and

771
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: twenty since he came back from injury, so he won't

772
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: be cheap. He'll probably be six hundred K. But he's

773
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: sort of one of that next generation of you know,

774
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Primo's human cluggage, these sort of guys that we might be.

775
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: David Junia might be. Yeah, well, well he'll be cheaper too.

776
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Talking talking about before next year starts, hopefully Josh GiB

777
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: Kiss and Josh Smiley can get a clear run in

778
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: it over pre season. Both be sort of Richmond rookies

779
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: we can we can pick at the start of next year.

780
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: Definitely, Now, Josh Smiley. He'll be a chance for the

781
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: rising start next year. If he's fitting healthy, he'll be

782
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: He'll be one. I'll be putting it for sure like that.

783
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: Chloe of course made sure we mentioned Jago Smith. Yeah,

784
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: a lot cheaper next year if he if he's ready

785
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: to go from the start of the year. Will Day

786
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: and Hayden Young a couple of guys who will be

787
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: that mid price again but both so.

788
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Every year we spend hours talking about them and they're

789
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: injured by round three.

790
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: And so every year at this time we say no,

791
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: no way, and then next pre season.

792
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: Like there'll be five. Get him to be great.

793
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: That's something we'll talk about over the preseason for sure.

794
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: And another name that be curious on your thoughts on well,

795
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: first of all, nas, do we just pay whatever is

796
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: whatever is priced at two million.

797
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: He's going to be a high price.

798
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

799
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: For my first thought, he is Kenny. I'm not sure

800
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 4: he's a lock. I don't know he'd he'd be. It's

801
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: gonna be hot, it's gonna be wo'd be one of

802
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: the would he be? How high would he be next year?

803
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Well over six hundred k Yeah, I think he's a

804
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: number one scoring defender. For the years, so be probably

805
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: the most expensive defender.

806
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Does he start as a defenders?

807
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: He starts well, actually, that's a good point. Yeah, we'll

808
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: be watching that if you can pick me in defense

809
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: and makes it.

810
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's still done enough to be

811
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: eligible the first half of the.

812
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Maybe then he is someone you'd lock away and the

813
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: other Saint Tayos Philipprooves played the last few games, but

814
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: clearly underdone barely, you know, you know, but he's going

815
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: to be probably under two hundred cakes.

816
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: If he's under two hundred, then you'd take him. But

817
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: if he's at mid price, he's just maybe a watch

818
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: early in the season to see how he goes. But yeah,

819
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: there'll be plenty of options, as there always is. Does

820
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: Marcus Windager stay at the Saint sort of? I don't

821
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: know if he goes elsewhere Jeezy be tempting. Yeah, I

822
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: don't know that there's plenty there. The North Melbourn team

823
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: will be in interesting too. They should becoming good winning

824
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: more games, so that the Sheesel mckkircher, Davies Uniac.

825
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's a few options there that you

826
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: look at as well.

827
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used I'm not sure, his seasons.

828
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: Just he's just just play.

829
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah where I rate him so highly off he's he's

830
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: got a high ceiling, so he might be one next year.

831
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: I did look at him with my last trade, could

832
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: have gone chair to him, but I decided to go

833
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: Grundy to Marshall instead, and instant regrets as as we

834
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: know that feeling super coaching. But yeah, hopefully row And

835
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: can have a big win for me this weekend to

836
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: finish it off. Thanks everybody, thanks for coming in. Joe,

837
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: It's been great to chat to you again.

838
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: It's been fun. Enjoyed the year and patch.

839
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Yes, a fantastic super Coach season again, and yeah, good

840
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: luck with your final. No grand finals, but overall rankings

841
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: are still still up for grabs.

842
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Are still up there. Still got to stay ahead of

843
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: the clubs in the lair. Yeah, but I'm sure I

844
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: should be able to do that.

845
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: In the final, super Coach, though.

846
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: We can redeem ourselves with the finals, super Coach exactly.

847
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back talking about that, no doubt very soon.

848
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Good luck everyone out there, if you're in a grand

849
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: final this weekend, not just gunning for that PB in

850
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: the overall ranks, or if you're aiming for the fifty k.

851
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: Be very stressful time, I'm sure, but yeah, try and

852
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: have fun. This is our last show of the regular season.

853
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've got Super Coach Finals is open already,

854
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: so no doubt we'll be back talking about that very soon.

855
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Of course, you've got Super Coach GPL and all the

856
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: other great Supercoach games coming your way. So one last

857
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: time for the twenty twenty five regular AFL season, Happy trading,

858
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: and we'll talk again.

859
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: Zep