1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the land of the Gatigel 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: people of the Eur Nation. Hello, and welcome to the 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Real Story with Joe Hildebrand. Look, I keep trying to 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: take a week off, but the news just keeps getting 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Absolutely massive show for you this week, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: including what is going on with Donald Trump and his cabinet. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: Has he appointed anyone who isn't alleged of criminal activity? 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: We'll find out after this. Also Albow and China, are 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: they friends or are they frenemies or are they just 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: playing enemies? And what's going on with Albo and Donald Trump. 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll get to the bottom of that as well. All 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: that more coming up. So first up this week, I 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: want to take you into the incredible hive mind of 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, his first buddy, Elon Musk and the permittand 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: RFK Junior and why they're all eating McDonald's on the 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump jet and what is going on with Donald Trump's 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: cabinet picks. Everyone is absolutely up in arms about some 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: of the selections. Some are pretty normal. Marco Rubio for 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. Okay, looks like Ukraine might survive a 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: while longer. He's sane, He's a Republican he's conservative, obviously, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: but he's saying Donald Trump, I think once accused him 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: of having a small appendage, but they seem to have 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: put that behind them. Shaking hands. I think they both 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: agreed now that they've got good, normal manly sized hands. 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Just American political debate just never fails to amaze me. 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: But Donald Trump is doing something. And it's hard to 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: know whether Trump even knows that he's doing it, but 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: he's doing this classic kind of rule of three move. 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: And everything Donald Trump does is show business. Okay, that 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: is the most important thing to remember. And the rule 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: of three is a classic rule of showbiz. It's a 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: rule of comedy. It's basically the Englishman, the Irishman, the Scotsman. Right, 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: you introduce a scenario first up, then your second player 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: then confirms that scenari and that sets up the audience's 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: expectations for the third thing, and then of course it's 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: something else, and that's the punchline. And it's known among 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: comedians and social historians or whoever actually comes up or 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: thinks about these things, is the rule of three. And 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has played a classic rule of three on 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: the whole world. And this is the amazing thing. About it, 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Like if you look at the cabinet that he is assembling, 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: and none of these people have been confirmed yet. And 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: that's another story whether or not he even needs the 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: Senate to confirm them. Normally, the president puts forward the nomination, 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: the Senate then has to rub a stamp, and Donald 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Trump has the numbers in the Senate. But of course 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: the Republicans are a little bit divided. They don't have 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a binding caucus, and so they might not actually go 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: with some of his crazier picks. Then there is another 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: cause that Donald Trump has where he could just make 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: them the position he wants to make them by declaring 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: the Senate in recess, saying, oh, I would have got 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: approval from the Senate, but the Senate's not sitting. So 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: there's this little clause in the Constitution or wherever it 55 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: is that says I can just do it anyway. 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Whatever. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: All that is kind of immaterial. The point is this 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: is the show that Donald Trump is putting on. Think 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: of a giant reality TV show where you get half 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: a dozen people. A dozen people, let's say let's get 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: a cast of it. Doesn't like think Think Love Island. Right, 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: You've got a cast of a dozen people. And the 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: casting is the most important thing in any reality division. 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: So you've got to make sure they're all. 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Crazy, or they're malevolent, or they're dastardly, or they're wicked, 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: or they're sly, or they're fiendish or just plain nuts. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: But they can't all just be nuts or sly or 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: evil in the same way. They've all got to be 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: crazy in a different way. You know, you've got to 70 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: have a crazy genius and a crazy idiot, and you 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: assemble all these people together. And of course, in a 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: reality TV show in Australia, they'd all just end up 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: having sex with each other. But in Donald Trump's reality 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: TV show, they get given the task of running the world. 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And it's not even a reality division. It's 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: a live show. It is happening, and it is being 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I've streamed on every single news network in the country, 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: and of course everyone is losing their minds. Now, let's 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: just get to the most contentious picks, the picks that 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody is talking about. 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: And how many are there? 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: That's right, Three, always, the rule of three, the Holy Trinity, 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: the trifector. And again it's hard to know if Trump 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: even knows that he's doing this or if he's just 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: got this incredible instinct for showmanship or this instinct for comedy. 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: So he's dangling these three people, and again, what does 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: he do first? First up, he appoints a Fox News host, 88 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth, as Defense Secretary, his nomination for Secretary of Defense. Okay, 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: plenty of people of Fox News hosts. These are guys, 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: are you know, They're often very intelligent, they're conservatives, they're 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Trump loyalists. All makes perfect sense. He's a military man, 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: he's got a strong background serving in the US Army. 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: So where's the controversy. Well, the thing about Pete Hexeth 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: is that when he was a member of the Home 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Guard and appointed to attend Joe Biden's inauguration as part 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: of the grand ceremony, that great democratic institution that used 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: to be the United States. When he was actually put 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: down to do this and he was all set to 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: do it, someone raised on Twitter that he could be 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: an internal threat, a security threat because they saw a 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: cross symbol that he had tattooed on him and they thought, oh, 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: that's a white supremacist symbol. 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: Oh it's a crusader symbol. Oh you know, maybe. 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: God just a Christian basically just what they call it, Jerusalem, 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: a cross go to Jerusalem. 106 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: They're everywhere hints in the name. 107 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: So he is actually accused of being or flagged as 108 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: being a potential internal threat, a threat against the presidency. 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: And this is who Donald Trump has made Secretary of Defense, 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the person in charge of the defense of the United 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: States of America. Amazing right. And then he has Robert F. 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, or as Caroline Kennedy, the US Ambassador to 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: Australia at the moment, calls him cousin Barbie. And of 114 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: course Rhode F. Kennedy Junior is a vaccine skeptic and 115 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: anti vax meruceder. He doesn't like fluoride in the water either. 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: He's also a bit of a good old fashioned health night. 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: He's a bit of a hippi. He doesn't like additives 118 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: and processed food and stuff like that. He's worried about 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: what's in the you know, the drinking water or that 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: PFASs or whatever. 121 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: He's all over that. 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: He's googling that, and he's you know, he's followed his lawsuit. 123 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't like big farmer, big pharmaceutical companies, you know, maybe 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: he's got some good points. One other thing about Bobby Kennedy, though, 125 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: rfk Jr. He said in a New York Times article 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: recently that a worm eight part of his brain and 127 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: then died and was indeed laid to rest or I 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: suppose it self to rest inside his brain. So about 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: propos of nothing? Now, is that the sort of person 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: you want in charge of your health department? 131 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe, maybe not. He wants to drain the swamp. 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Okay, this guy with a brain part eaten by a 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: worm that is sadly now passed and therefore unable to 134 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: give us its side of the story. 135 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: It's unfairly maligned parasite. 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, point B. So anyone goes, Oh, so everyone's losing 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: their minds about that. And so what does Donald Trump do? 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: The rule of three? The punchline. He nominates a congressman 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: called Matt Gates, and guy who is just so out 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: there that even the Republicans hate him, And he nominates 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: this guy for attorney general. Now, Matt Gates's main claim 142 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: to fame vis a vis the law is that he's 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: been accused of trafficking a minor across state lines for 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: sexual purposes, and these allegators have come forward. You know, 145 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: there's more people have come forward since and said that 146 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: he brought these women to New York to have sex 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: with him and blah blah blah blah blah. So this 148 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: is a guy whose most famous interaction with the law 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: is as an alleged sex trafficker. That is his previous 150 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: engagement the Justice Department. And what does Donald Trump do. 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: He makes him head of the Justice Department. Now again, 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: this is just amazing stuff. Just strap yourself in, sit back, 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: and enjoy the show. But what happened when here appointed 154 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: Matt Gays. Well, this time even the Republicans lost their minds. 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: Everyone is just going absolutely crazy saying this is insane. 156 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: The Senate will never pass it. Get up, this cannot be. 157 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: Let us stand. 158 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: You know this time, you've gone too far. How many 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: times have you heard that sort of said or thought 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump? 161 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Oh? 162 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: Donald, you know when you just said grab him by 163 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: the you know, okay, but now you've gone too far. 164 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: And yet he just keeps going further, further and further 165 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: and further, and until it just becomes a new normal. 166 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: He creates the world around him, and so Matt Gates 167 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: is now at the center of this giant male strom 168 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: and everyone is just going absolutely bonkers about that. And 169 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: suddenly Bobby Kennedy Jr. Doesn't seem so bad. Suddenly Pete Hegseth, 170 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: who is also accused of Peygoff, someone who accused him 171 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: of sexual assault, which he says he didn't do. But 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: that's just a that's just a minor detail compared to 173 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: what's going on with the AG. So again, Donald Trump 174 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: is just creating all this noise, all this color and movement. 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: God knows what the rest of his appointments are going 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: to be. And of course if these three crazy people 177 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: get knocked off, even if just Matt Gates gets knocked off, 178 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: then he still gets his way with defense and health. 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: And the other weird thing about Rfkjune, I've got to say, 180 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: there's a photograph of him with Trump and Elon Musk 181 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: on Trump's plane eating McDonald's, the very food that's campaigning 182 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: against Trump. We all know loves Mackers used to work there, 183 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: and you've got RFK sitting next to him, hoeing into 184 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: a big Mac. 185 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: Everyone thought this was. 186 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Pretty weird, but I learned a tidbit from a certain 187 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: podcast in the US that we'll get to. And the 188 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: reason they're sitting around eating McDonald's is because McDonald's is 189 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: one of the very few foods, the very few restaurants 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: that the US President can go to and order a 191 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: meal and it doesn't have to be checked by the 192 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Secret Service because when they made that quarter pounder, they 193 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't know the president was going to order it. They 194 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: they don't know who's getting it, so it means it's 195 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: not a poison risk. So that means you can just 196 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: rock up to the McDonald's drive through, order a quarter pounder, 197 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: give it to the commander in chief, and you don't 198 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: have to have the Secret Service. The guys with the 199 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: sonnies and the black suits, the men in black around 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: you coc and fries. So there you got a little 201 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: fun fact for you. Point being, however, Trump is just 202 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: sending everybody crazy, and indeed it is so crazy it 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: just might work. In fact, it might even be working 204 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: because what Donald Trump is doing is a form of 205 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: actual real politic that was conjured up by the great 206 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon called Madman diplomacy. So the 207 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: idea is that you basically present yourself as so volatile, 208 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: so unpredictable, so crazy, so prepared to do anything that 209 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: everyone else around you just gives you everything you want 210 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: or doesn't dare make any sudden moves, doesn't dare threaten you, 211 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: doesn't dare escalate any situations because you're crazy. You could 212 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: do anything. And this is what Kissinger and Nixon did 213 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: during the Vietnam War, or to stop it from escalating 214 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: into World War three, to stop the Soviet Union getting 215 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: more involved, or the Communist China getting more involved and 216 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: suddenly turning it into a much broader global conflict, or 217 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: heaven forbid, a nuclear conflict instead of just keeping it 218 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: contained within sort of Indo China. 219 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: And it worked. 220 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: Vietnam wasn't exactly a roaring success, but it wasn't World 221 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: War three. And it worked because the Soviets and the 222 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: Chinese thought, God, this Nixon guy, he's nuts and kiss 223 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: just going around. He's in the back channel and saying, 224 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can control him. He could 225 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: do anything. And Trump is doing the exact same thing, 226 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: and he's doing it to everybody. And again it's hard 227 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: to know whether he is doing it deliberately or it's 228 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: just who he is. But he's doing it and it's working, 229 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: and this is what people around him are saying he 230 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: could be good for that, this is what the world needs. 231 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Now there are reports and again you know, you never 232 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: know because you never know what's propaganda, you never know 233 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: what these regimes want you to think. But there are reports, 234 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: for example, that Iran has held off another missile strike 235 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: against Israel because they want to maybe do a deal 236 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, see what he's actually going to do 237 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: to respond. And of course they know that Trump is 238 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: all in on Israel, far more so than the previous 239 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Biden administration, which was a bit more equivocal, perhaps understandably, 240 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: but Trump is just all in, and so Iran, to 241 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: put it politely, is shitting itself and holding off on 242 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: any further hostile action because again they don't know what 243 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's going to do. They don't know if he's 244 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: just going to Newkem. And we see the exact same thing. 245 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: For example, in the Ukraine, you can bet your bottom 246 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: dollar that Vladimir Putin is looking for an exit strategy. 247 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: His invasion has gone absolutely appallingly a couple of years now, 248 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: they're dug in. It's been a thousand days, three years 249 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: Ukraine is now making inroads into Russian territory. Putin has 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: been utterly humiliated because he's a strong man. You can't 251 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: just stop for no reason. But maybe with Trump in 252 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: the White House, that gives him the circuit breaker, gives 253 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: him the excuse to say, oh, well, now Trump's here, 254 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: He'll agree to some deal, take a couple of chunks 255 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: out of the east of Ukraine and pretend it's a 256 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: victory when everyone else knows it's not. And again, could 257 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: just give him that cover because Trump brings the crazy. 258 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: But most importantly, Trump has rattled China, and you would 259 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: have seen in the news over the last few days 260 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: all this controversy over the fact that China is telling 261 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: other world leaders ahead of the g twenty summit and 262 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: APEC to be more like Anthony Alberanezi. So we've got 263 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: a great relationship with any Ambleurasy. He's really sensible and 264 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: good and supportive of us. You know, why can't you 265 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: all be more like Albo, says the China Daily, which 266 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: is just a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party and Jijinping. 267 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: And that's all well and good, but of course, when 268 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: you're getting praised for being a good leader an evil dictatorship. 269 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: That's not the best kind of five star uber rating 270 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: that the Australian Prime Minister once. So everyone's saying, oh 271 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: my god, well, if China is saying this about Albo, 272 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: then he must be terrible. Never mind the fact that 273 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: Albo's got nothing to do with that. This is just 274 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: China trying to do a snow job on the rest 275 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of the world, and it is a blatantly transparent snowjob. 276 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you have a one party 277 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: authoritarian state. The production values go way down. You're so 278 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: used to having a population you can just tell black 279 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: is white, tell them whatever you want them to believe, 280 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: and they'll just believe it because you've censored everything else 281 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: and there's no other facts out there for them to accept. 282 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: But when this spills out into the rest of the world, 283 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: it just looks a little bit hand busy. I don't 284 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: know if anyone out there is a fan of North 285 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: Korean cinema, but it's just, you know, the character development 286 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: just isn't quite there yet, and so this is what 287 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: China says, says, Look, here is nice, compliant, pretty boy 288 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Alberanezi. Why can't you all be like him? Of course, 289 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Alo's got nothing to do with That's what they're trying 290 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: to tell everyone. 291 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Albo's like. In fact, Albo met with. 292 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: Jijiping at the G twenty and apparently raised quite a 293 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: few concerns about human rights and other issues, as well 294 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: as cementing the trade bond. So sounds like Albo did 295 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: pretty well. But this is what everyone is missing out him. 296 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: By focusing on China's praise of Anthony Alberanizi, everyone is 297 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: kind of forgetting about why they actually came out and 298 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: said this, and the entire reason why China felt it 299 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: had to do this, and it even says so in 300 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: the China Daily itself. It is because they don't know 301 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: how to handle Donald Trump. They're saying, here's this new 302 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: crazy guy who's come along. The world's not predictable anymore. 303 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: We don't know what he's going to do, So can 304 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: everyone else just try to fall into line, because this 305 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: guy could do anything against Madman diplomacy, and it's put 306 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: China on the back foot, and that puts everyone else 307 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: in the world in a greater strategic position. And there 308 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: is absolutely nothing more anathematic. You have to remember that 309 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, the government of Jijiping, everything it 310 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: relies upon. This is a government that controls its people. 311 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: It controls the speech of its people and what they 312 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: can hear, what they can say. This this is a 313 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: government that provides incentives for good social compliant behavior. This 314 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: is a government that runs absolutely everything, that runs the media. 315 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: This is a government that is completely reliant upon order, 316 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: upon predictability, and on control. And suddenly, in Donald Trump, 317 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: you've got someone who's disordered, unpredictable, and they can't control them. 318 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: And that is a triple threat to the Chinese government. 319 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Once again, the rule of three. 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I'm chatting away talking about 328 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, what's going on this podcast, stuff that you 329 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: get no one else gets. 330 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Including some of the info that I gave. 331 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: You just before, and I make what I thought was 332 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: just a tiny an in joke that is so in 333 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: that basically only I get it so I, which seems 334 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: to be most of my jokes some of the time. 335 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: So I plugged the podcast, and in doing so, I 336 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: gave a bit of a wink and a nudge to 337 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: a podcast in the US called No Agenda, which is 338 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Sarah Harris introduced me to it. These kind of gonzo guys. 339 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: They're very funny, they're arch libertarians, they're pretty crazy about 340 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: some stuff. But one of the Adam Curry, is known 341 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: as the Podfather. He basically kind of invented podcasting or something. 342 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: He sort of made it sing, made it work. And 343 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: then he's got this other computer nerd, a former chemist 344 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: called John C. Dvorak, and they do this podcast and 345 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: they tear apart the mainstream media and you know how 346 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: everyone's lying to them and everything's a conspiracy, and they 347 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: go down all these rabbit holes and it's quite entertaining 348 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: him sometimes just completely out there anyway. So I make 349 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: this tiny joke on Sky News where I'm talking about this, 350 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: and I say, you know, download it wherever you get 351 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: your podcast no Agenda. You can hear that for yourself 352 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: right now now. 353 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: Download it now, No Agenda. 354 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: See I did say that, and of course I'm just 355 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: seeing that. No no one else on the panel those 356 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: what on earth I'm talking about? And so imagine my 357 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: surprise when Sarah Harris gives me a call and says, 358 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: guess what You're on the No Agenda podcast. They have 359 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: just taken my line and made it one of the ISOs, 360 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: one of their sound bites, and I'm thinking, oh my god, 361 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: this is incredible. They know who I am, these guys are. 362 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, this is what they did. They cut up 363 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: the SoundBite. 364 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: John C. 365 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Devor cut up the SoundBite, and this is how they 366 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: presented me to the world. Let's start with the with 367 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: the bonus, which is the no Agender one. Okay, download 368 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: it now, No Agenda? 369 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: Where's that from? Where is it from? 370 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Download it now? 371 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: No agenda? It's from the lefties. 372 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: So one of the Australian things gays bragging about his 373 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: own podcasts and he says, no gendo, he has no agenda. 374 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: But it's not that's no good. It was it was 375 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: muddy anyway. 376 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just some guy from Australia bragging about his 377 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: own podcast. But it was muddy anyway, And that is 378 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: all we have time for this week. Thanks very much 379 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: for your company. Don't forget to leave us a review 380 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: or rating if you haven't already five stars. And I 381 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: love this guy. 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