1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: When I left the Wiggles, and you know, I actually 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: went into back to full time study because the whole 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: premise was that I was going to finish my PhD 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: and that became the focus. But of course that wasn't 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: bringing in any revenue. And then we knew that our 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: runway was one year. So we thought, if it's not 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: successful or if we're not getting any you know, bytes 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: or potential work after that time, we have to stop. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: It and then try for a different situation. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: So only right at the end of the twelve months 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: we started to get some bites for the business. And 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: then that puts you in a tricky spot because then 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: you have to put in more cash to try and 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: get yourself up to you know, year two, or for 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: us it was year one. 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: That was Emma Watkins. She's the host of Teenage Boss 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: on the ABC I View and ABC Family. No stranger 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: to the ABC Emma for a long time, she was 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: there in her capacity as the Yellow Wiggle. Today, she 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: and I talk about her journey from dancer to wiggle 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: to earner of a PhD, the businesswoman that she is, 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: why financial literacy is I'm port And we also speak 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: about our capacity to reinvent ourselves. It's a great chat 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: and we'll do that after we pay some bills. Pi's 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: of mats. This is better than yesterday, making it better 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: every episode since twenty thirteen. My names Osha Gizburg. Thank 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: you so much for being here. Thank you so much 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: for joining on to the substack. It's lovely to see 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: more people there. The link is in the show notes. Also, 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 3: thank you to the people that came to story Club 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: at the Sydney Comedy Store. It was an enormous night, 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: a fantastic night. Don't worry if you missed it. We're 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: doing another one December the eighth. The tickets are on 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: sale right now, but I'm only telling you that if 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: you want to get tickets, to get them now because 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to announce it to the public on Friday, 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: So get on. That link for the tickets is in 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: the show notes. Emma Watkins is here. You know, Emma 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: the Yellow Wiggle, Emma, Emma men the Dancer, the PhD student, 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: the lady with the nonverbal communication of the same language. 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Is incredible. Her new project, Mmmmma is a bold adventure 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: into the world of children's entertainment. We talk a lot 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: about that today. She's got a lot of experience in 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: that space thanks to her many years and working with 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: the Whiggels both on and off camera. Today we are 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: talking about that. We'll also speak about her new ABC show, 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Teenage Boss. We talk about financial literacy and the learnings 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: that the young people involved in the show had, what 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: it takes to reinvent who you are and what it 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: takes to back yourself in a big swing. And we'll 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: point out Emma's internet connection not great. It's a bit fractured. 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes we even end up on the phone at the end, 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: but don't worry, we get there, enjoy the show. How 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: are you today? 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: Am? 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: Are you good? 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm good? 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: How are you yeah? I'm all right. Thank you. I've 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: got to say thank you so much for being a 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: part of little ABC show that we were on the 61 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: art of. It was really lovely to be a part 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: of what you're doing at the moment. Did you see 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: the episode? How'd you think of it? 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 5: I did? 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like you and I check in 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: with each other like at inter minute phases of our life, 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: and I feel like this is a this is like 68 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: a good set. 69 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: It's like a catch up on a standard. It's like, 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: where are you at? Where are we at? And how 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: do we go on? 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 3: Look, I'm I'm in pivot town right now. 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: But pivot town is a wonderland. Like you, you don't 74 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen next. 75 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's it, isn't it? And that's you know, which 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: is what I was really delighted to talk with you about, 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: because there's this super super sure thing that everybody knows 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: you for, and in my case, it is a subset 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: of my skill set that I thoroughly enjoy. I'm really 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: good at and I love it, but it's not the 81 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: totality of who I am and what I'm about. And 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: now that's gone, trying to explore other parts of my 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: skill set. It's almost like an in and I've been 84 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: through a rebrand before. It's almost like trying to remind 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: people's I do other stop. 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: But it takes ages, and I think it's actually almost 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the exciting part because it means that ninety percent of 88 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: your skills haven't been shown, so that means that everything 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: else is up for grabs. 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: But it does take a long time. 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the good news that I don't have to learn 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: anything new, not yet. I'm not no, not yet like 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm not I don't have to learn how to tap 94 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: dance or anything like not yet, not yet, not yet 95 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: like you had. Similarly when you left the Wiggles. You know, 96 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: you've got all this other stuff that you already do, 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, but maybe tap dancing is something that was 98 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: already there. But who knows? 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: That's part of my ten percent? 100 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Who knows? What tell me about? And I'm, you know, 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: kind of we'll get to teenage boss, which is what 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: we're here to talk about, which is the fascinating adventures 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: into financial literacy, which is something I really had none 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: of until I met my current accountant in my late forties. 105 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: I know, but taking a big part of financial literacy, 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: knowing where you are is a really important thing, and 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: I didn't really know that. But when you know where 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: you are, you can really back yourself and make an 109 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: informed choice as to you know, am I going to 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: swing for this? And we're going to really wind up 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: and go did you do a bit of an inventory 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: before you broke out of the wheels or did you 113 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: just find yourself out and go, Okay, I got this 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: much runway, I reckon I can go. 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a really good question. 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: I feel like probably the inventory has only happened more recently, 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: to see how much money we've burnt through and where 118 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: can we go now and will we be sustainable with 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: our current business. And I think it's something that you know, 120 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: when you do have your own business, it's very very 121 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: tricky to keep on top of when you're so busy, 122 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: and when you are the accountant, the producer, the book keeper, 123 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the product, the product to the legal the singer, the 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: dancer and the tap dancer. You know, trying to keep 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: all of that afloat all the time means that you 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of time to do anything else. 127 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm a very good professional email 128 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: writer and I spend a lot of time doing admin 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: and bookkeeping and not enough time dancing. So at this point, 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: I think it's flipped. But I think it's to try 131 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: and give a better foundation so that the runway for 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: the next couple of years, you know, we can go 133 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: for it. 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: Then that we talk about runway in case people aren't 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: familiar with the term, it's essentially if you're in a 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: startup situation or you're starting a business, there is it's 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: the initial injection of investment or even it could be 138 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: even a loan that you get from a bank and 139 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: the other and I just started a business. You started 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: a restaurant with a bank loan. You know they backed 141 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: in and say you've got Let's say we're studying a business, 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: a restaurant business, and we are I don't know. We 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: borrow two hundred thousand dollars and that might give us 144 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: a year of lease of the premises, fit out staff. 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: If the projections of the cash flow work, we will 146 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: be okay and be able to pay off the loan 147 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: and be able to keep afloat and be able to 148 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: wash our own face as well as payof loan after 149 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: a year. So that's what we're in by runway, and 150 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: it's important to calculate to know how much time you've 151 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: got left. I avoided it for a long time, but 152 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: then it kept me up at night, and thankfully I 153 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: figured out how to use spreadsheets. And it's funny, you 154 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: don't want you to get the numbers out there, and 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: you put in this as much to the mortgage, just 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: as much as the groceries, just as much as the 157 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: home insurance. Da da da da da. I need this 158 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: munch a month. So we don't have to move house. 159 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: You look at M and go, well, okay, that's the number. Now, yeah, 160 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: now I've got to go go get it. 161 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: And you know, you're absolutely right, Osha. That runway is 162 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: something really tricky. And when I left the Wiggles, and 163 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, I actually went into back to full time 164 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: study because the whole premise was that I was going 165 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: to finish my PhD and that became the focus. But 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: of course that wasn't bringing in any revenue. So my 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: husband and I when we left the Wiggles, we went 168 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: into full time study and then we knew that our 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: runway was one year, so we thought, if it's not 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: successful or if we're not getting any you know, bytes 171 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: or potential work after that time, we have to stop 172 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: it and then try for a different situation. 173 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: So only right at. 174 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: The end of the twelve months we started to get 175 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: some bytes for the business. And then that puts you 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: in a tricky spot because then you have to put 177 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: in more cash to try and get yourself up to 178 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, year two, or for us, it was year 179 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: one of the business. So we had like a weird 180 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: gap year of runway and then we started year one 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: of the business and now we're only in year two. 182 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: It is. It's a high wire act. 183 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: Cool. 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: You've got to back yourself. And when I was a kid, 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: like growing up in Australia, we generally kind of have 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: this inbuilt obsequious nature about us. I think it's diminishing now, 187 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: which I'm happy to hear. I'm happy to see. But 188 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: I didn't know anyone that backed themselves. 189 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: No, but the arts, I mean, how can you. 190 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: It's unknown, you don't know what's going to happen, and 191 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: so I think that's the tricky part. Of course, every 192 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: industry is difficult, but in the arts there's something that's 193 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: very precarious. 194 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And certainly in the current version of what 195 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: the business model looks like. Rule number one, there's show 196 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: and show business. Rule number two, it's show business, not 197 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: show friends. The business has to work right. And growing 198 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: up they were still gatekeepers, you know, the only if 199 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: you were able to get the permission of the gatekeeper, 200 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: record company, publisher, television network, radio station, whatever. They took 201 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: care of a lot of the rest of the stuff. 202 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: They were the ones that took the risk by giving 203 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: you the record deal or the show or the movie 204 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: or whatever. Now you've got to be the one that's 205 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: you've got to absorb the risk. 206 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people are risk adverse. And also in this 207 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: kind of climate, there isn't a lot of expendable income, 208 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: so you're putting up all the money or all the 209 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: investment and the time and you're basically the safety net 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: as well, which is a very scary place to be. 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Of course, that can reap the benefit, but it takes 212 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: a long time. And where again you two. 213 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look you leave the Wiggles arguably one of 214 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: the most successful children's entertainment and franchises in all of 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: children's entertainment, and yeah, like, well, I could become competition, 216 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: but then what happens? I know what I'll go for 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: the I'll go for the niche sign language market. That's 218 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: what I'll go. 219 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: For, I mean exactly. 220 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: And choosing something that's not a business strategy really has 221 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: come from that love and passion of the research project 222 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: that I was doing with my PhD, integrating sign language 223 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: and dance for children's screen media, which is of course 224 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: a niche, but the benefits are far and wide. So 225 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: now it's about being able to present that knowledge to 226 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: a wider audience and for them to appreciate that this 227 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: research is not just for a small market, but it 228 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: is for everybody. But that is an ever growing and 229 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: an ongoing process. 230 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm thrilled that's something. I've got significant hearing loss. In fact, 231 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: one of my hearing aids died yesterday, and Now'm going 232 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: to go find a mechanic. Oh like, oh wow, because 233 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: they're not cheap things. So I'm not going to go 234 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: find someone. But I remember the last audiologist that I 235 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: worked with, and maybe you might be able to shed 236 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 3: light on this because I've been to the Shepherd Center 237 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: over there in the Inn west of Sydney. And if 238 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: you've ever seen footage of a kid getting the cochlear 239 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: earplant ear implant turned on, it's possibly at the Shepherd Center. 240 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: There's a two way mirror there because it's just full 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: moment that it's just exquisite to witness, and you know, 242 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: they want people to see it. And those people were 243 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: telling me that there were some people in the hearing 244 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: impairment community who we're really quite concerned about the loss 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: of sign language because now that the cochlear implants are there, 246 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: why I teach a kids sign language and put them 247 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: in another group like a that's wonderful that this thing 248 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: to have it then go away, is like, well, is 249 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: it like Morse code? What happens now exactly? 250 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: And you know, there are real examples of communities or 251 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: countries where sign lingg whige has become extinct and hence 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: why the reality of that issue is real and true 253 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: and very worrying for some people. But one of the 254 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: best things that we can do is provide lots of 255 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: options so that the child, whatever communications method that they 256 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: need or that they want to use, is available to them. 257 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: So even you know, with the technology like the cock clear, 258 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: there are instances or environments where the cock clear may 259 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: not work. Or for example, if you're hearing aid is 260 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: run out a bat treaty, or you've lost it, or 261 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: you're going for a swim. You know, those kinds of 262 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: instances are perfect examples of a place where sign language 263 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: actually becomes queen. So this is a big discussion, by 264 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: the way, and as a hearing person, you know, looking 265 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: into this discussion, we have to be super mindful that 266 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: we don't live these barriers, and so it's a bigger 267 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: discussion that needs to happen. But it's been about thirty 268 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: years of intense scrutiny. 269 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, having learned the l's line alphabit, which is really useful. 270 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't take you long and it's really useful. Yeah, 271 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: when you're in a club or something, or if you're 272 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: a cross a room, it's actually quite handy to send 273 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: secret codes to each other exactly. But then I moved 274 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: to the States and it's all one handed, and I 275 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: don't know what they're talking about. It's like, guys, we 276 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: both speak English. Surely someone could have figured out here's 277 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: the English version of it, but I'm sure in the 278 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: UK it's completely different as well. It's real annoying. 279 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the way that I think about it, it 280 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: is with technology, like you know what we're using today 281 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: with Zoom. That technology video calling was not even there 282 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: when we had the telephone or Morse code, So it 283 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: has taken a while for video to catch up to 284 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: share language across the world. But with sign language, once 285 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: you know one, you do have a better opportunity of 286 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: connecting with people across the world because facial expression and 287 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: tone and body language is more aligned than rules in 288 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: spoken language. So there is research out there to show 289 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: and demonstrate that crossing over sign languages is easier than 290 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: spoken languages. 291 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: When Wolfe was born, we taught him finished, We taught 292 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: him more, taught him what else did we teach him? Oh, 293 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: I want to nappy? We taught him water. And he's 294 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: five now and the other day I just caught him 295 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: doing it. The other day I said, have you had 296 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: enough dinner? He goes, yeah, I'm finished, and his hand 297 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: did it. You know, like four years later, his hand 298 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: still does it. And it was super handy. When he 299 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: was a baby, he was six months old, and it 300 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: was like it was helped us stay ahead of the 301 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: game because he was a perfectly able to communicate that 302 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: he was hungry or we wanted more, or he was done. 303 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: It was great. 304 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I cannot wait for the time when curriculum and daycare 305 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: centers actually integrate visual language even more so than we 306 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: already see it, where that connection between parent or care 307 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: or educator and child can be that smooth. And that's 308 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: the beauty of visual language, which we don't really pay 309 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: attention to. Even once children may go to spoken language, 310 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: we don't come back to it. 311 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and visual language is everything. It's my eyebrows, it's 312 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: my nostrils, my shoulders, my elbows, my hands exactly as 313 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: my friend Campbell would say, the hand is the eyebrow 314 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: of the arm. It's very expressive, very very expressive stuff. 315 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: It's wild. When I was getting my hearing age, it like, 316 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: don't worry. Only five percent of communication is the actual 317 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: words exactly. This is why texts are always the worst 318 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: thing to have an argument over. Just taking a few 319 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: moments away from em I to play some ads back 320 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: in a second. When it does come to education and 321 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: when it does come to curriculum, I did nothing about money, 322 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: and neither did my parents. You know, they were immigrants 323 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: and they were in a high earning profession, so they 324 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: kind of got away with a lot, but they certainly 325 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know anything and got into a Hey for trouble. 326 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: What is it that made you want to be a 327 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: part of a show that has teenagers explore their financial literacy? 328 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: And I guess you know, take responsibility for the finances 329 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: of the home. 330 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: I think even recognizing you know, as a business owner, 331 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: as a small business owner, those valued lessons have been 332 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: able to know about your own finances and where you 333 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: need to go. I really respect now as an adult, 334 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: but I would have loved to have known that years 335 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: ago when I left school, even more so that I 336 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: could be independent. And so when this opportunity arose, I thought, yes, 337 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: this is perfect. But Osha, even though you say that 338 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: about your parents, my dad is a chartered accountant and 339 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: that's what he's been doing for decades and decades and decades. 340 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: But then I think I relied too much on that 341 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: and didn't have that understanding myself. So I feel like, 342 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: only now I have a better understanding that I did. 343 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: You know, back in high school, I didn't have any. 344 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: Wow, you can't be what you can't see, and so 345 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. When I started in radio and I'm 346 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: working with people who have multiple investment properties because they're 347 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: on breakfast radio and they make a coin that was 348 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: also kind of quite strange to me. But I kind 349 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: of picked up a little bit about what things might 350 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: look like when you're get into something as just this 351 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 3: jargon or machine of the Wiggles and you you know, 352 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: they're selling toothbruss. Was your face on it in the UK? 353 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: I mean, was there any kind of structure or cash 354 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: flow ideas that you went, Oh, that's real clever, I 355 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: should remember that one. 356 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh look, I think some of the processes that the 357 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: wiggles were put in place. You know, we've got to 358 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: remember that that's thirty years of a business. So I 359 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: think by that time, being able to have that runway 360 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: and know what works and what doesn't in any business 361 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: is enormously helpful. 362 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: And you can see why. 363 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: A business like that absorbed so much of that process 364 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: and control themselves, because then they could control the output. 365 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: And it makes sense, It absolutely makes sense. 366 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: What was really interesting about them early on is that 367 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: they literally seized the means of production. They bought their 368 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: own place, they had their own access to production facilities. 369 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: They didn't have to wait for a studio to be 370 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: free or pay for it. 371 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: All. 372 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: There's money that way. I know they had the coin, 373 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: but it wouldn't have hurt him. Throw an extra light 374 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: up here or there, because boy, howdie. Come on, guys, 375 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: you're getting to watch the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. 376 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: Wouldn't kill you to bring a flecky to shoot. Come on, guys, 377 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: come on, you don't have to talk about it. You 378 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: don't have to trugg about the production values. But every 379 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: now and again, I'm like, dude, you I appreciate your frill, 380 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: I get it, but come. 381 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: On it's the charm. 382 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, you're underrexposed here. There's a lot of back light. 383 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: It's not hard just get someone holding a thing, but 384 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: it is, I guess, you know it is. You know, 385 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: seeing the way that that business model works is also 386 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: a great education when you're working on on Teenage Boss. 387 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: What were the kids like? What were the families like? 388 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the teens were awesome. All the families were 389 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: amazing and you know, really different. They all had different likes, hobbies, 390 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: different savings goals. So each teen had to set up 391 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: a goal that they were going to save for. Obviously, 392 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: this particular goal was mostly material, so it was money 393 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: towards a car, or a plane ticket overseas, or a 394 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: fancy necklace or a pair of shoes. 395 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case in all situations. 396 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: But really, I think for them being able to see 397 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: what their goal was, you could tell a little bit 398 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: more about them and what their relationship was. 399 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: With their family. 400 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: So you know, one of the teens, in particular, Elsie, 401 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: she was saving up to take her family on a 402 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: day out. 403 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 3: Oh wow, so beautiful. Elsie knows that. You know, the 404 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: fact is, like stuff doesn't make you happy, it's shared 405 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: experience that makes you happy, and helping others that makes 406 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: you happy. Like when you're making this show, what kind 407 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: of things did you find yourself surprise to learn? Because 408 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: every day's a school day, every day. 409 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 5: Is a school day. 410 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: I actually was more laughing at the parents having like 411 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 6: sneaky lunches at work without telling the teams, even though 412 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: they were meant to be collecting their receipts and meant 413 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: to be reporting that with the team, but it didn't 414 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 6: just quite happen like that. 415 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: So they're seeing, they're noticing leakages in the cash flow 416 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: and going, hang on, yeah, nineteen dollars, ten's what's fat, 417 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: Larry's Burger's and Ship's dad. 418 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: And I think it was good. 419 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: It was good for the teams to have that moment 420 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 6: where the parents were acting up because clearly it was 421 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 6: just the taste of their own businesses, and I think 422 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 6: it was nice. 423 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: That that was happening, you know, fairly early on in 424 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 5: the month. 425 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 6: So the challenge actually was over the four weeks, but 426 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 6: you know, some of the you know, extra coffees or 427 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 6: the crosshunt at work were actually only slipping into knowledge 428 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 6: about halfway through. 429 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: But it's it's it's like anything. You know, you think, ah, 430 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: the extra croissant isn't going to make a difference until 431 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: in summer time and you get into your togs and 432 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: they don't fit. 433 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: Well. That too, you know, that's also a byproduct. 434 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 435 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: But like for speaking of the coffee is like, we 436 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: have a coffee machine, it's a fancy one. I have 437 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: a grinder. And even with the fancy thing and the grinder, 438 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: because I figured it out, it is cheaper to buy 439 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: the fancy coffee machine and the grinder than to buy 440 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: the amount of coffees that we were buying from the cafe. 441 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 5: Isn't it amazing? 442 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: It's a racket man, Like, there's so many things that 443 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: you can do yourself that save you so much money. 444 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: What were you what were you most surprised by when 445 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: it came when it came to innovations in saving that 446 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: the teens were coming up with. 447 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 6: I think one thne in particular Imagen. She had her 448 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: eighteenth birthday coming up, and one of the big challenges 449 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 6: that Image and faced was that she wanted to put 450 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 6: on an eighteenth within the month of the challenge, but 451 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: she needed to hook up electricity to the shed to 452 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 6: have lights and music for the party, and then that 453 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 6: cost them over two thousand dollars because there was some 454 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 6: sort of problems. And then she got really nifty and 455 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 6: started selling furniture online. 456 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: What were people eating? Takeaway off the FLOORA was it? 457 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: I mean, luckily it was furnature that apparently the family 458 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 5: wanted to get rid of. But she snapped into action 459 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: really quickly and then ended up being okay by the 460 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: very end, And that decision happened within like three days 461 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: before the end. 462 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 7: Of the challenge. 463 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: Is it like I've been to dietitians in my life. 464 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm Celiac, I'm vege, and I had to understand and 465 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: I didn't know enough. So I didn't want to have 466 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: nutritional deficiency. So I went to go see dietitians and 467 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: just by writing down what I ate for a week, 468 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: I learned so much about the choice I was making. 469 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: I didn't realize. Did you find once people started writing 470 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: it all down that they were surprised? 471 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 5: Look? 472 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 6: And I think that was always helpful right at the start, 473 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 6: when we had the budget spreadsheet to begin with, because 474 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 6: then the teams actually realized that they weren't just looking 475 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 6: at food situation. It actually was everything else with water, gas, 476 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 6: home maintenance, cars, public transport, some socket money. And I 477 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 6: think once they. 478 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: Were alerted to that right at the beginning, they were 479 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: much more aware of what they had to control. But 480 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: that did actually give them more responsibility, and I think 481 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: they were you know, some of them were a bit overwhelmed. 482 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 5: At the start. They thought, Oh, I thought I was 483 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 5: just doing grocery. 484 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: Well you were when you were a teenager. What were 485 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: you saving up for? 486 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 6: Well, my dream was to have a pet goat, and 487 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 6: I would go to the Seeking Royalist to show every 488 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 6: year and just like hang out with the animals there and. 489 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: Just get so explosive. 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: I didn't realize that actually keeping a goat would be 491 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: a lot trickier than just going to the show. 492 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 5: But yeah, I had a piggybank and I saved up 493 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: for goat. 494 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: Did you ever purchase this goat? 495 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: No, but I did save up for it. But I 496 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: did finally get my pet goat when I was an adult. 497 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: What did you call it? 498 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: I had two little ones. They were adult chain guitar. 499 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: You're kidding, but they are actually no longer. River Well, 500 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: I've had multiple things. 501 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: Look, look, I was going to say, are you sure 502 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: you didn't live near my wife's family, because man, that 503 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: goat curry that they're into is like comes from somewhere. Yeah, 504 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: oh yeah, and the like as humans, Why did we 505 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: choose pets that don't live as long as ask? African 506 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: gray parrots live eighty five years? No more labradors, just 507 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: African gray parrots and then exactly perfect pet. 508 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 5: We do have to have succession planned. 509 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: That galapig is turtle, They move slow, they never get away, 510 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: they eat lettuce, massive two hundred years, beautiful things. But 511 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: what about you know, when you saw the way that 512 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: these you know, the realizations that these teens had around 513 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: the money they were spending, in the value they were getting, 514 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: at some point you have to answer the question, well, 515 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: what are we doing this for? Where's the enjoyment? What 516 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: do we get out of it? What's the value? Did 517 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: you see that they came to this kind of realization 518 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: of there has to be some something else that isn't 519 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: just saving money. 520 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. I think it was different for each 521 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 5: of them, but definitely. 522 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: The realization that saving money wasn't to be on indoor 523 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 6: because sometimes in some of the households, the morale was 524 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 6: starting to deco because the food was on ration, people 525 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 6: were being restricted, they couldn't go out to the movies, 526 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 6: and I think once it started to hit home that 527 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 6: people in the household may not have been loving the 528 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 6: new spot. 529 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's when things changed. 530 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 6: But in some cases where for example, pocket money was 531 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 6: a line item you know that was put in at 532 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 6: the start money and the team decided to get rid 533 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: of pocket money, that realization happened on the first day. 534 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 6: So when siblings, you know, were raising their concerns about 535 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 6: where I want my money, the stakes are quite high 536 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 6: right at the start. So I think it has happened 537 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 6: for all of them, but just in different ways. And yes, 538 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 6: when the decline started to happen in terms of emotional 539 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 6: and in supporting each other, you could see that that's 540 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 6: when they then decided to change their strategy. 541 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, government's running on austerity, can only do it 542 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: for so long. And yeah, you've got to have a 543 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: bit more carrot and a little less stick. Yeah, we're 544 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: taking a quick break away from Emma back in a moment. 545 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: You You've always struck me as someone who is very 546 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: a very positive person. You've been quite open about some 547 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: of the things that you've struggled with You've been really 548 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: open about speaking about endometriosis, which I'm really grateful for. 549 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: We cover that in the new doco actually is coming 550 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: outbs oh crazy, oh yeah. Sitting down with the specialist, 551 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: like the most elite pain specialist in the area, in 552 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: the country, and even him going, we don't even know 553 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, And just the staggering figures of how 554 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: much it affects people when you're facing the kind of 555 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 3: pain like that. And it must have been the young 556 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 3: lady in the documentary with and Them was Alana. We 557 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: followed her story and so I was able to really 558 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: get a handle on how incredibly impactful this thing can 559 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: be to people when you're facing that kind of significant pain. 560 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: How do you manage to get I don't know, to bedtime? 561 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: How do you manage to get think aheads like, oh 562 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: my god, I've got that engagement party next Saturday. How 563 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: can I even do that? 564 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. 565 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: I think at the time when it was really bad 566 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: and I was diagnosed exchange for INDO, not that I 567 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: knew that I had that. 568 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 5: It was only of course through a surgery that they're 569 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: now like, that's what you had. That explains why but I. 570 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 7: Actually really was just trying to get through the show. 571 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 7: So at the time, I was touring and we were 572 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 7: doing four shows the day, six days a week. So 573 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: for me, I was just hoping that I could, you know, 574 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 7: be on stage and also bring a beautiful vibe to 575 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 7: the children as. 576 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: Opposed to worrying about myself. 577 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: And I think naturally, with children's entertainment in a great way, 578 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 6: your mind. 579 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: Goes off yourself. 580 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: You know, you're there for the children and you can 581 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: see how much they're enjoying it. And so in some ways, 582 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: once I weren't to relax about myself and focus on 583 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: the children, then that's probably what kept me going in 584 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: a way, because I wasn't thinking about myself, and then 585 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: I'd get off stage and then you know, I'd. 586 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: Be doubled over. But you know, at that time, I 587 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 5: was just really trying to survive. 588 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: But then once I'd had a surgery, and you know, 589 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: I would have to say that I probably if I 590 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: could have chosen, I wouldn't have chosen the surgery, but 591 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: I had had to at that point because I didn't 592 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: really have any other options because it was so to 593 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: be us. Then I was able to figure out a 594 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: different management plan. Really think that it's been I think 595 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: it's been a good six years. 596 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's maybe maybe a little bit less. Yeah, 597 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm happy for you. I'm really really happy for you. 598 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: But it's what you just described is very much something 599 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: that we uncovered in the in the film about Yeah, 600 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: the I mean, not everyone can have that moment of 601 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: pure intense on stage focus where it's choreographed. There's two words, 602 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: everything's planned. You're not in any state of uncertainty. You 603 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: know exactly what's going to happen for the next hour. 604 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: All you have to do is concentrate on it, and 605 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: your brain just doesn't have a space to even attend 606 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 3: to the sensation exactly. 607 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: I reckon that's probably what we're good with distraction. 608 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: I completely. People always ask look, I had no idea 609 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 3: that you struggled, mate, and always say it. It was like 610 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: if you saw Ariana Tiitmas walking down the street, you 611 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: would go, holy shit, she walks because all you ever 612 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: do is see your swim right in the same way. 613 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: You know, It's like, those were the moments of respite. 614 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: It's the other twenty three hours. 615 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: Where no one else saw you. 616 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: It was hard. That was hard. 617 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a moment where I distinctly remember being 618 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: at the Adelaide Entertainment Center and we actually, for the 619 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: first time from you know, from when I was there, 620 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: had to hold the show for five minutes because I 621 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: actually couldn't get up. But I knew in my brain 622 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: that once I could get myself mentally there, I'd be okay, 623 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: And so it just took me an extra five minutes. 624 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: You carry on like me, and I'm normally right on 625 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: the ball, but I had I just couldn't physically stand up. 626 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 6: But then once I was in the show, yeah, fine, 627 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 6: totally fine, I. 628 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: Had I do. I mean, it's the name of the show, 629 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: and I always like to ask it, but you know, 630 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: the name of the show is better than yesterday. Is like, 631 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: you know, the idea that we are set and done 632 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: and we just repeat this pattern and we might think 633 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: we're stuck here and this is what it will be 634 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: for life, isn't actually what we are as humans. We 635 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: have opportunity to wake up every single day and go, well, 636 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: what could I do a little bit different that might 637 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: make things a little better in this way or that way. 638 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: How do you as you were moving in this new 639 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: phase of your career and your personal life. How do 640 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: you make today a little closer to where you want 641 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: to go? 642 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: Oh that's such a good question. 643 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: I feel like in this new chapter, in the last 644 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: three years, being able to do different projects and meet 645 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: different people, and have a little bit more time to 646 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: chat with people and get to know people a little 647 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: bit more. I feel like it happens automatically or in 648 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: another way. And this probably sounds a little. 649 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 6: Bit dull, but I actually look forward to opening my 650 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 6: email and in my inbox sometimes and more often than 651 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 6: not now there's something really exciting in there that sparks 652 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 6: a new opportunity that I would never have dreamed that 653 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 6: i'd be doing. And I think luckily I get to 654 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: be at home a little bit more, but I do 655 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 6: try and set myself to do something different. And actually, 656 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 6: my good friend Josh, the composer from Bluie, he's always 657 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 6: said to me, am, I you've got to like try 658 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: and eat something different or do something different every day, 659 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 6: because that will help your brain grow. 660 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: I always remember that always. 661 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: He's not wrong. He's one of the greatest humans to 662 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: ever walk the planet, the great just the genius of 663 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: the opening credits, being a musical statues game and in 664 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: the music he makes. Each time the kids stop dancing 665 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: is an extra beat, the bars an extra beat so 666 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: deliberately you can't win it. You always fuck it up. 667 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: It's just genius. He's amazing, And in Josh's honor, I 668 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: will go and eat something new today because I think 669 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: he's absolutely right. 670 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think you know, he's a super creative person. 671 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: Brain. 672 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 5: It's constantly striving to bring that fun. 673 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, you know that game within itself, just 674 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: with the first thirty seconds of the Blue Beans one. 675 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: That's something that we all need to do something different, 676 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: change our environment. I mean, I think the beauty about 677 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 4: touring is that you do get that change in the 678 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 4: environment often, but to so many people that are obviously 679 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 4: not on tour. 680 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: You know, how do you bring that to your every day. 681 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, mate, After a while, like I just 682 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: want to be able to get up at night and 683 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: not walk into a wall looking for the toilet and 684 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: where's my pillow? I missed my pillow? 685 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 6: You know. 686 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 5: It's the creed to comfort. 687 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: To comfort, Emma, it's an absolute delight to speak with you. 688 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch Teenage Boss. That's super cool. 689 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: Financial literacy. How exciting. 690 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 691 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: That was Emma Watkins her new project, Emma Mema. You 692 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: can find all about that on socials. Also, the new 693 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: TV show We Spoke About Their Teenage Boss is streaming 694 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: right now on ABC iView and also being shown on 695 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: ABC Family. If you want to get among the story 696 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: Club Christmas Spectacular to somebody the eighth in Sydney, It's 697 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: a Sunday night tickets around so right now, I'm going 698 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: to announce to the public on Friday, but if you 699 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: want to get in early, I would recommend you do. 700 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: The link to those tickets is in the show notes. 701 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for everybody that showed up last time, 702 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: and I can't wait to see you there if you 703 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: can make it. Thank you to the people who help 704 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: me make the show today. 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