1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Get I Welcome to the show. It is Monday and 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: on Mondays. At the moment, we are working our ways 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: through the one hundred and one Rules of Show Business, 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: which started as a way of explaining certain format points 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: to the audience that we had to help workshop this 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: game show that my mate Jeeves and I are developing. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: We've got another workshop coming up. Should actually I'll let 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: you know when it's coming. I did about twelve that night, 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: came home and thought maybe there's something in this, so 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I kept writing them down. I stopped at one hundred 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and one. Well, that was a fairly good number to 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: stop at. It's been so much fun. There's a bunch 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: of other weeks. Go back and listen to them that 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: have been on the last few Mondays. They're superduper fun. 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of crackers today, including two which 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: are completely absolutely fundamental with how I managed to come 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: out of unemployment and back to four primetime TV shows 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: which I shot all within the same year. And it's 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: got a lot to do with these two particular funds 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: that I'm going to talk to you about today in a 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: moment though, because I do have to keep the lights on, 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: so I'll be right back after the break. Gooda welcome 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much for being here. 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: This is better than yesterday, making it better every episode 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen. My name's Asha Ginsburg. I am a 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: podcast as TV host. I'm a best selling author. I'm 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: an award winning documentary maker. I am someone who wrote 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: a bicycle through the fuck frozen cold of Sydney. Today, 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I had five layers on and got to my gym 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: the other time of day that I normally go to 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. And I am someone who pulled a 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: dead lift bigger than my body weight for the first 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: time since i had my third replacement hit put in, 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and I'm very happy about that. Took me a long 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: goddamn time, but here I am. Thanks for being a 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: part of the show. Thanks for being getting on the newsletter. 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: It's new and exciting, and you can find the link 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: in the show not that's really enjoying writing it, and 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: there's more there than I've ever been able to before, 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: so that's really nice. It's in the show notes. If 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: you want to jump on the newsletter, it's pretty cool. 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: It's a substack, so get on there. You'll fight it there. 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: So let us plow forwards. Rule thirty in the one 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: hundred and one Rules of Show Business. Nobody gets their 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: job by accident, so respect their knowledge. Now, I'm not 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: saying nepotism doesn't exist in the entertainment industry, but I 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: have never seen it. All Right, if you're on set, 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: if you're a part of a production, you are there 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: for a reason. And the reason is that that role 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: that you are in has been earned through your hard work, 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: through your talent, through someone who believes that you have 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: what it takes to deliver, through perseverance, and just being 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: a decent person. That is why you are there. Nobody 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: ends up on any production through luck or because they 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: know someone. It doesn't happen. Every person on set has 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: a value set of knowledge and skills that nobody else 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: on the set has because there's enough money to double 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: up and those skills and that knowledge contributes to the 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: overall success of the production. So when someone tells you 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: something that you might not understand, just respect what they 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: have to say because they know what they're talking about. 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: They're not just the blow in mate from the runner 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: who it's their very first ever gig, to the exec 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: from the network or the production company. They all have 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: rightfully earned their spot, just like you have. So not 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: only is important to respect what they've got to say, 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: or respect that they are there or how they got there, 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: respect their knowledge. Disregarding their expertise that they bring can 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: really mess up a day. It can lead to conflicts 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: among people, It can lead slowing things down. Worse, it 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: can lead to a walk off as no good. Nobody 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: wants that. And like I said, you know, nothing works 73 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: unless everything works. And while you may have an idea 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: of how to light or perform a particular bit, you 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: need to understan and that there's a bigger vision at work. 76 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: And unless you're the director, it's not your vision. So 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: by all means, ask questions. But for more, you know, 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: get more value out of it. Just learn from the 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: experience of everybody else around you and acknowledge the contribution 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: that they're making to the overall thing that you're doing. 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: It makes it for a much nicer place to be. 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: And the next rule somewhat plays into this, rule number 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: thirty one in the one hundred and one Rules of 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Show Business. Always respect the chain of command. I actually 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: quite like that. I have spent a career working in 86 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: a very vertical leadership environment. And it's like that for 87 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: a reason, mostly safety, but also quality control. Unless specifically stated, 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Television or film or radio, for most part, is not 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: a collaboratively creative environment. They're simply not the time, and 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: it also makes for a very weird product. If you've 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: got one hundred ideas trying to come at you off 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: the screen through this speakers, you are all there. Everybody 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: there is there to execute the vision of one, maybe 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: two people, and that's it, and that is fine. The 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: chain of command is vital to that because it makes 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: your things are made efficiently and with that singular creative 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: vision at top of mind. Otherwise things are just impossible 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: to watch. It's totally understandable. You might have some great 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: ideas about whatever's happening on set and how it could 100 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: be better, and that's great. Your ideas are valuable. Yet 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: those ideas will not be considered. You've got to actually 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: fuck things up. If you much straight up to network 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: that can tell them what they're doing wrong, they're not 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: going to work, neither will you. There's ways to get 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: ideas to the top of the decision train, and that 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: is through the chain of command. You might have I 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: don't know. You might have heard an act of miss 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: a line. Oh no. You might see a scene start 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: and the actor is holding the fish tank squidgee in 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: their left hand, but the previous shot they were holding 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: it in their right hand. Now, if you shout out 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: to the actor, excuse me, mister Crowe, you're holding the 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: fish squeege on the other hand, No, bad, don't do that. 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: That actor is in the middle of concentrating very intensely, 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and they do not need a person that is not 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: on their immediate team telling them that the fish tank 117 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: squege is in the wrong hand from their previous shot. 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: It's fine. People make mistakes and people get confused, and 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: they could blow their whole day, blow the whole thing 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: for everybody. You don't tell the actor directly. You tell 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: the person who's your team lead, and hopefully they will 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: then tell the continuity people and the continuity or then 123 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: tell the director. Now, why the message travels that way 124 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: is because it makes sure that any information that does 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: make it all the way to the top, to the 126 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: director or to the execut producers, it's been vetted by 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: heads of department along the way and should be taken 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: seriously so that if a message comes to a director 129 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: that says other squeegees on the wrong hand, the director 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: will cut the scene and go back to the start 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: and everyone will go again, and the director will figure 132 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: out the way to get that message to the actor 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: in a way that will keep the actor in the 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: moment and allow the thing to happen. Because if something 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: false comes to the director and the director of yell's 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: cut and it hadn't been vetted along the way, well, 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: then that's bad. So every production's got a structure like previously, 138 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: from the director of the execs all the way down 139 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: to runners and the drivers, whatever. Every single link in 140 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the chain holds the whole thing together. If you bypass 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: that chain of command, the whole thing can fall apart. 142 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: And that's it works better for everyone, and everyone's feelings 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: are far more protected. To be honest, if you follow 144 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the profit channels of communication, just respect the chain of 145 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: command rule number thirty four in the one hundred and 146 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: one Rules of Show Business. If you actively look for 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: ways to make everyone around you look good, you will 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: look good. Entertainment is a team sport. From my own 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: experience before I got sober, when I was being like 150 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: selfish and you know, focused on making myself look good 151 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: and like, how dare that person? I've got three lines 152 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: and the next bit that person's got four. We didn't 153 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: have equal It's cut the line and a half, so 154 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: we say the same bullshit, not doing my greatest work. 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Because of that. After I got sober, though, I very 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: much flipped around how I wanted to show up to 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: work to give me a different way of being on set. 158 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: So instead I had a focus of I tell you 159 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do today. I'm going to try 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: it to simply make sure that every person that I 161 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: work with today has the easiest day and the best 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: day they've had on set in a really long time. 163 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: And I would do that by being where I was 164 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be, knowing the lines I needed to say, 165 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: understanding the overall thing we're trying to get through to 166 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: that day, and making sure that I don't know, I 167 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: didn't eat with my wardrobe on, and I changed out 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: of my shirt before I had a lunch, sort and 169 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: skill some shit all over it, just making it as 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: easy as I possibly can for everybody around me. But 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: what that did to me is that to do that, 172 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I ended up doing a very good version of my job. 173 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I was as good and prepared and as on as 174 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I possibly could pussibly be, but I was doing it 175 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: for others, not for myself. And because I was doing 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: for others, it's still like I did benefit from it, 177 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: but I wasn't doing it for me, and that was 178 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: really really useful. The same thing goes for radio. If 179 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: you're a generous performer in radio, you end up looking 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: greatly instead of like trying to take up all your 181 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: time trying to just fire gags that just keep not 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: working and not leving any space for anyone else to talk. 183 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: If you're constantly setting up your co hosts, setting up 184 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: the other people around you to be the best version 185 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: of themselves, you end up looking awesome. You end up 186 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: looking just great. You enhance the entire show. Helping other 187 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: people look good doesn't diminish your talent. If anything, it 188 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: shows that you are a generous performer who can be 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: relied upon to make sure the entire team shines, and 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: it makes you wonderful to work with, and it makes 191 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: you look awesome and excellent and delightful in the eyes 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: of the audience. It always comes back to you, don't worry, 193 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: this will always come back to you and you will 194 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: benefit from this. Make sure that you are there for 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the other people on your team and the best way 196 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: you possibly can be, and in turn you'll be the 197 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: best you can be. And part of that also involved 198 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: like make sure you give people their flowers. Make sure 199 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: you tell people like mate, without you I am radio. 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: If you're talking to the lighting guy, like without you 201 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: on radio. So thank you, this is great. This is 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: the best looking set I've seen. Thank you. Let people 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: know that they're doing a great job, and it's really 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: really important. We've got two to go today and both 205 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: of them are from a very special person, my former manager, 206 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: and these two are very precious to me. They are 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to fundamental reasons and fundamental waypoints that I use to 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: drive my entire career forward. And I've spoken a little 209 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: bit about them before, but never the way I'm about to. 210 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: It's coming up right after these adsmens, Thank you so 211 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: much for listening. This is the one hundred and one 212 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: Rules of show Business. We are up to Rule number 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: thirty three. It's a classic and I love it and 214 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: it's from my former manager, John Faraday. He's unfortunately passed 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: away now, but it's unbelievable words of advice. Only you 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: know how hard you've worked to make your dreams come true. 217 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I love this one. I love it. The journey to 218 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: whatever success looks like for you is filled with struggles 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: and victories that no one will ever know about. And 220 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get a gig is rare. The opportunity 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: to work for a gig is rare, So they go 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: to the people who are the very best possible person 223 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: to present on the day that they're looking And if 224 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you get chosen, it means that you have everything that 225 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: that person is looking for. Getting chosen might mean knowing 226 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: a script or being able to demonstrate that you can 227 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: shoot a camera in a particular way or write a 228 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: great song or whatever. But if you knew they had 229 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: this meeting, and you knew you know, you had pitch 230 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: something or whatever, and instead of preparing for it, instead 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: of practicing, instead of warming up, instead of ironing his 232 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: shirt or whatever, you're fucking around on your phone or 233 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: doing something else, and you don't get the gig. You 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: can come home and say I didn't get the gig. Ah, 235 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: that's okay. You try it, but you're the only one 236 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: that has to lie there and bed at night, and no, 237 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: did you really try that you had enough to own 238 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: that shirt. You're fucking around looking at the different size 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: of fish tanks, squidjees because you were talking about it 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: before and instead of ironing a shirt, you spent time 241 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: you don't even know a fish tank, be a wasted 242 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before you left the house, and then you 243 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: had a shingy shirt. Now this one really pushes me hard, 244 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: mostly because I'm a total punish on myself if I 245 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: have phoned something in, if I have been at all 246 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: giving my own best, I am my worst worst enemy 247 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. So I want to keep 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: myself off my back and I make sure that I 249 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: do absolutely everything. I don't want to leave anything anything 250 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: on the table. I exhaust absolutely every possibility and so 251 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I can walk away from it if it doesn't come 252 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: my way going I did everything, and by doing that, 253 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: I learned heaps to be honest, I always learned something 254 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: when I give that much, even if the gig doesn't 255 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: come my way. It's exactly what I told g when 256 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: she was going for a HSC which is in me 257 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: South Wales. That's the high school mark that helps you 258 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: or hindus you getting into university. And she had this 259 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: number on the wall which was her mother's score, to 260 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: be honest, and I said, well, only you know how 261 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: hard you work to make your dreams come true, you know, 262 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: and you know only you know if instead of studying, 263 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: you're fafting around in a group chat on Snapchat looking 264 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: at some map where your friends are and you aren't. 265 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: Only you know that you've done that. You might not 266 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: give the test result you want, but I won't know 267 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: that you've instead of studying, just been fafen around, scrolling 268 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: through TikTok g ended up surpassing her mum's HSC. She 269 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: worked that hard. I'm very very proud of her that 270 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: she did that. But it's really really important, you know, 271 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: it's really really important. You're the only one that knows it, 272 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to have to live with knowing whether 273 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: you did or did not do every single thing you could. 274 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: This could be to either get a gig, or keep 275 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: your relationship together, or keep your kid out of trouble 276 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: or whatever ever. You're the only one who knows how 277 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: hard you how much ever, do you put into it. 278 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: This next one I absolutely love as well. It's from 279 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: John as rule number thirty four in the one hundred 280 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: and one Rules of Show Business. Someone will write the 281 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: next number one single? Why shouldn't it be You? I 282 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: love this one, particularly because so often we have a 283 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: think about things that we currently don't do, whether it 284 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: be Formula one race car driver or champion bass fishermen 285 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: or acrobatic pilot and go, oh no, no, that's for 286 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: people who drive cars and fish and fly playing. Is 287 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: that's not for me? I don't do that? Well, one 288 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: day none of those people did that either. They just did. 289 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: They might have pursued ways and avenues to get the 290 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: support to be able to do such things, but one 291 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: day they just decided to do it. So someone's going 292 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: to do the next incredibly successful thing. Someone's going to 293 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: launch the next number one app. Someone's going to break 294 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: through and write the most fucking um believable novel that 295 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: changes the way we think about everything. Someone's going to 296 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: come up with some incredible economic calculation that solves all 297 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: arguments against removing fossil fuels from our energy supply. Why 298 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't it be you? Why should not be you? All Right, 299 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you might need to get a bit of education up 300 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: your sleeve. You m, I don't have to meet a 301 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: few people, you know the things you get to need 302 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: to do. But you can give yourself a mission to 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: do anything you want and just start, just try, just 304 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: embrace the idea that someone's going to do it. You 305 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: may as well do it. If you'd like that sort 306 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: of thing, it could be used, so it may as 307 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: well give it a shot. Now, this is a lot 308 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: about self belief. I'm not being unrealistic here. You know, 309 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I might not be able to fly a plane upside 310 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: down while I'm fishing for bass in a river somewhere. 311 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not that good. But if it's something that I 312 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: really really really want to do, what I will learn, 313 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: what I will get out of trying to do that 314 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: will ultimately benefit me whether or not I do get 315 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: that number one single. And this is really really important. 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Just give yourself if you want, you can trick yourself 317 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: and lie on your right arm for twenty minutes since 318 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: you can't fill your hand, and then tap yourself on 319 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the shoulder and say, hey, you're an upside an acrobatic 320 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: bass fisherman. Well done. Oh great, I guess I am now, 321 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: And that's it. But someone's going to do it. Why 322 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't it be you, So just have a fucking crack. 323 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Just have a crack. Life is real short, real short, 324 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: and you want to be able to look your grandkids 325 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: in the eye and say I did everything I could. 326 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: I had a great time, but he did can get 327 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: where I wanted to go, but it was awesome. You 328 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: don't want to go. Yeah, I could have done that. 329 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: I could have learned how to fly a plane upside 330 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: down while casting a real But no, no, that sort 331 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: of thing's not for people who come from my suburb. No, 332 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh fucking shit, may as well be you. Someone's going 333 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: to do it. Someone's going to write the next number one, 334 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: someone's going to launch the next thing, someone's going to 335 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: have the next hit movie, app car, whatever may as 336 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: well be. You give yourself permission, then just start see 337 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: what happens. That's it for today. I'll be back next 338 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: week with a few more. I hope you can share 339 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: this with someone in your life. He you think my 340 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: benefit from it, That would be really useful for us. 341 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Every person that downloads this show is financially wonderful for us. 342 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: So please do share this. Do let the people know 343 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: around you about this series. I'd really be grateful for that, 344 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be back here on Wednesday with a guest. 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to get out of here and I'm going 346 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: to go and wave with my wife. I haven't seen 347 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: her for all day. That's late at night when I'm 348 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: recording this, so I I see her. And you're going 349 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: to listen to the credits for this show, which I 350 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: voiced by a strange AI doing some voice cloning thing 351 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: with a strange accent. 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