WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 14 October 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.480 Lately. 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.039 Welcome late Bay. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.239 Well, thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.600 Storer and kayleb Bond. Coming up. We want to talk 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.280 to you about the dumbest criminals in the world, caught 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.920 with drugs after they literally advertised to police exactly where 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.840 they were. We'll tell you about that later. Plus when 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.280 we look at the papers, Victorian public servants to receive 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.360 training about white privilege, of course only in Victoria and 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.279 in other news making the papers front pages. Tomorrow. Independent 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.120 schools to launch a campaign against the Greens nationally in 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.200 the lead up to the next election. But first it's 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.040 been revealed Environment Minister Tanya Plibis's decision to block a 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.360 one billion dollar gold mine was based at least in 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.080 part on a series of Aboriginal drawings. It turns out 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.880 the gold mine wasn't that bad. It was just drawn 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.720 that way. The mcphilamy gold mine near Orange in New 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.440 South Wales had been set to go ahead before plus 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.319 X slapt a Indigenous Heritage Protection order on it at 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.240 the last moment. Now she did this despite the fact 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.120 the New South Wales government and the local Aboriginal Lound 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.720 Council all supported the development, but Plittersek preferred the advice 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.720 of eighteen local Wdigery people, one of whom was artist 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.760 Nirie Reynolds. Marie Reynolds said that she got involved after 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.320 hearing from her ancestors have alism. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:34.200 Every time both passed ancest help and I thought, if 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.960 I can to work with everyone and the ancestors to 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:47.120 stop this, because to kill Labella Pulla by putting meant 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.040 in the springs, it's unthinkable. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:57.240 So, after hearing from her ancestors artists, Nirie Reynolds painted 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.440 a series of pictures which she admitted to Tanya Pliba 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.240 Sik as the main thrust of her argument. She wrote, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.880 my paintings are all based on this beautiful part of 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.840 Fordidjery country. I can't bear to think of the desecration 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.960 of this land and its ancient heritage if the mcphillamy 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.839 proposal were to go ahead. And so it turns out 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.840 now according to the Daily Telegraph, that these paintings you 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.800 can see on your screen were the main thrust of 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.919 the argument that convinced Tanya Plibasek the one billion dollar 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.720 gold mine, which would have created eight hundred jobs untold 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.680 wealth for locals, should not go ahead. And of course, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.160 for people wanting to invest in this country, why would 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.280 you bother doing all the groundwork when you've got government 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.040 ministers who believe a picture is worth a thousand wordscale. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.720 I've found that thoroughly convincing. I mean, hell, I'm going 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.840 to make all my decisions henceforth based on painting submitted 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.880 to me. Look, if someone makes a submission that is 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.600 out of kilt her with what the majority of the 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.760 local people want, the local indigenous people. But there's some 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.560 paintings in there, you'd think you just dismissed it out 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.160 of hand and go, well, this woman must be a crackpot. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.120 I mean, if she's trying to tell me that we 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.280 can't have a billion dollar gold mine that's going to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.680 provide jobs to locals on the basis of a few. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.120 Paintings, then she's cooking on another planet. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.919 No, it was exactly what Tanya Plibisick needed and wanted, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.440 I mean, and her department had tried to hide the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.080 fact that the paintings were part of the argument because 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.040 they knew how embarrassing it would be. But because Tanya 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.720 Plibisick is more worried about what is happening in her 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.080 electorate in a Sydney than what is going on in 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.280 any rural or regional part of Australia. And she wants 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.360 to make it look like, well, you know, I'm knocking 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.960 back mines out in the regions. It plays well to 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.400 voters in the inner city who might otherwise go and 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:49.240 vote for the Greens. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.720 That's what she's really worried about. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.440 So along comes on the table a submission from a 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.520 local moajerie woman saying, we couldn't possibly have this, it'll 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.440 be detrimental to the cultural heritage the joint. Yes, perfect, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.680 exactly what I need, except that it was paintings. I mean, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.080 did she not think that at some point this was 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.280 going to come out and people would go, hang on, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.680 we're making decisions in this country about billions and billions 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.599 of dollars of investment on the basis of a woman 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.760 who spoke to her ancestors somewhere out there in the 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:24.040 ether and then put ink to paper or paint or whatever. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:25.800 Seriously, what so. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.760 The country is this if that's how we make investment decide? 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.560 I think this is just rage bait though, because there's 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.080 nothing to show that this moved the dial whatsoever, and 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.520 In fact, a spokesperson for Tanya Plebseca said that they 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.920 did not rely on this particular submission in any way, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.440 shape or form. Two pages long. It was composed of 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.839 these paintings and a few short stories that Miss Reynolds 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.000 had put together in her submission. So I do think 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.200 we're being a bit disingenuous here. I don't believe it 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.880 was based on these paintings. Even the article doesn't claim that. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.200 The truth of the matter is we still don't know 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.279 why this jolly mind was vetoed because Tanya pleversec says 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.960 we got to keep it secret because the reasons are 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.839 culturally sensitive, which is exactly what the Queensland government told 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.919 us last week when those fifteen townships which are facing 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.480 pending claims of native title, like there's not enough native 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.640 title in Queensland to sink a battleship already, That's what 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.359 those townships were told. Oh, look, we can't tell you 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.800 the details of these submissions which are now claiming native 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.360 title in your patch because well, it's culturally sensitive, so 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.640 we can't give any details. This seems to be a 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:43.000 reoccurring excuse that the government is using to make these 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.919 calls that affect hundreds and hundreds of people. So Regius Resources, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:52.559 who's already spent two hundred million dollars developing this site, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.920 getting all the plans together before you turn the tiniest 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.159 lump of sod. There is a lot of work that 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.279 goes into getting plans a proved and these plans were 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.240 approved by a great many departmental heads, including the New 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.919 South Wales Parliament. Was given the green light until Plibask 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.840 came along and said no, veto veto. So Regis has 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.080 spent two hundred million dollars already and the indigenous groups 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.760 in that area have said, she's not even we're agerie, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.800 we've never heard of this woman. Hashtag no relation and 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.160 they're incredibly frustrated because, as one of the guys who 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.960 spoke to this said, we own forty percent of the land, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.400 but we're dirt Paul. We're trying to make this some 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.360 sort of economic power empowerment for indigenous people. Why else 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.880 do you think we want it. We've got this massive 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.400 project and it's been scuppered by a few voices like 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.400 Mss Reynolds. This was going to employ like nine hundred 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.360 people in the region. It was going to make us 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.000 big bucks, thanks for nothing. So it just goes to 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.240 show this labor government. They talk the talk like they 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.159 did ad nauseum trying to get the Voice up, and 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.520 then when it comes to rubber hitting the road and 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:11.760 actually empowering Indigenous people in the area who want something 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.320 like this development to go forward, you're going to scuffer 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.680 it over details that you won't release because they're culturally sensitive. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.520 And ladies like this get primetime news across the nation 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.080 because somehow she was involved. But the only involvement she 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.440 really had was writing a submission. We don't know how 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.480 many submissions there were. Hers was one of them. And 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.640 I'm happy to give at least that much leeway to 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.640 the government to say there is no way that that 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.320 was actually a big umph in the decision to veto it. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.840 It's interesting that this comes on the one year anniversary 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.440 of the failed Voice referendum, because the government made a 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.120 big deal about we've got to listen to Indigenous people. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.520 Then when they've got their official Land Council who have 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.560 been appointed to provide advice from the Indigenous community to 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.800 the government, that don't listen to that because that would 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.400 power indigenous people. They prefer to listen to other Indigenous 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.520 voices that would help them curry favor with potential Greens 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.200 voters in the Environment Minister's seat. And that's incredibly cynical 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.520 on behalf of the government that typically use Indigenous people 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.640 for their own rank political purposes while claiming that they're 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.200 the height of virtuous. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.560 Well what just political pin Why would you not take 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.520 the word of Arti farty people. I mean, look, you 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.320 want to combat the Greens, you got to get the 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.920 arty Farti's on site. That's exactly who you should be 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.560 taking your advice on the favens. We are not a 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.880 serious country anymore. We Liz mentioned Queensland before. Let's talk 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.680 about the Queensland state election of course coming up very soon. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.840 Now I know about you, but every time we have 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.920 an election campaign, with it be federal or state, you 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.760 get this barrage of text messages that you don't ask for. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.640 It's just because your phone pings against a tower that 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.320 a political party has paid a carrier to send a 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.760 text message to everyone whose phone is pinging that tower, right, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.880 So you don't have a choice in the matter. You 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.800 just get bombarded with these texts from the LNP or 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.120 the ALP or the UAP or whoever it might be. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.520 Vote for us, Vote for us. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.240 Now you know, you can choose whether or not you 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.760 want someone to send you an email, and by law, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.400 you can unsubscribe from an email. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.200 In this country. It's not the case with text messages. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.679 They just send them to you anyway. It is so annoying. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.680 Well, the LNP is doing it in Queensland at the moment. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.400 They send out a text message over the weekend, just 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:35.319 before early voting began up in Queensland warning people that 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.360 they should not vote for the Labor Government. I mean, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:39.720 I don't think they really have to worry about that 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.520 too much, but they've worried warned people not to vote 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.360 for the Labor government because of their patients tax. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:46.800 At the GP. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.840 Now, what all this centers around is the fact that 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:51.679 last not to. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.520 Vote for the LMP. Not sorry, what trying Labours trying 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.040 to get people not to vote for the end. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.240 No, no, no, this is the LNP has sent this to 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.120 the ALP. I'll get to them in a minute because 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.480 Labour's actually returned five So the LNP sends out these 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.760 text messages saying don't vote for the ALP because they're 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.360 going to charge you attax to go to the doctor. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.840 All that stems from the fact that last year the 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:19.800 states started leaving payroll tax on doctors gps who had 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.080 previously been exempt from payroll tax because of a decision 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.960 out of the courts in New South Wales that said 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.680 they had to pay it. So of course all the 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.040 states fell into line and said, yepe, we can get 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.160 more tax out of these people, so they started charging 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:33.040 the doctors. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.400 So the LNP is saying, hang. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.880 On a minute, Labor has levied a tax on the doctors. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.720 The only problem is that Labor has said if they 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.240 are returned to government, they will change the law, so 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.840 the doctors are no longer charged payroll tax. So Labor 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.920 comes out today and says, this is terrible. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.880 How dare you? It's misleading? 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.000 So what better for the ALP to do than to 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.120 return serve with their own barrage of text messages to 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.319 people in queen and this time warning that the AIRLNP 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.920 is going to lie to hide their planned health cuts. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:11.200 Another misleading message because there is no evidence whatsoever that 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.600 the LNP wants to cut the health budget in Queensland. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.200 You know, they actually had an argument the Labor government 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.439 when they said, hang on, you've sent out this barrage 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.439 of misleading text messages. Then they've gone and done exactly 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.439 the same thing twenty four hours later. As far as 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.120 I'm concerned, these text message campaign things should be banned. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.040 You didn't ask for it. It seemed to you unsolicited. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.360 I don't know why they're allowed to continue doing it. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.480 Yeah, no one typically pays much attention to them anyway. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.280 You just get annoyed, delete and think I won't vote 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.080 for whatever party keeps harassing me on my phone. The 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.080 situation with this is the LNP said on September twenty nine, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.640 we won't charge GPS this payroll text. The Labor Party 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.439 only agreed to do the same last Wednesday, having been 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.280 in power for the last however many years. So I 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.760 don't know that it's that much of a lyra scare 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.240 campaign to say, Look, the Labor Party could have done 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.960 this at any time. They decided last Wednesday after we 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.080 said we wouldn't do it. Now they're saying they wouldn't 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.480 do it. They won't do it. Do you really believe them? 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.400 But putting that to the side. For Cameron Dick from 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.679 the Labor Party, to accuse the LNP of a scare 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.080 campaign is the height of pot kett or black. I 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.600 mean we've had in the last few weeks Labour saying 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.920 that the LNP are going to you know, get rid 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.480 of abortion and trash women's rights, They're going to sell 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.840 off hospitals, they're going to cut public service jobs, and 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.120 to have a look at this mean that's been going 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.480 around online from the Labor Party Campbell Newman the sequel 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.599 R eighteen plus horror themes. It says, I mean, so 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.360 if the Labor Party want to talk about scare campaigns, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.439 I mean, the Labor Party know all about scare campaigns. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.080 They've pretty much been running one for months now. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.360 Well, I disagree that these are entirely powerless, right because 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:01.200 you've just got normal everyday people getting these and a 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.080 lot of them freak out, especially if you use patient 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.080 services quite a bit, and you're like, wait a minute, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.080 we've got to vote Labor because the LMP are going 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.600 to make patient services more expensive. The fact is both sides, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.120 if you ask me, are complete sickos. Because the whole 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.960 idea of a scare campaign and the two you mentioned 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.360 absolutely baseless. All the LMP is going to change abortion laws. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.160 And then the Nurses Union, the biggest union in Queensland, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.000 we're telling everyone or you've got to, You've got to. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:35.400 They're going to. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.760 Privatize the health services so it's going to cost more 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.079 in that respect as well, both of which were completely baseless. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.920 So now the LMP is just fighting fire with fire. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.880 But here's my point. Every day, normal people just going 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.240 about their lives, putting food on the table for their families, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.400 get these texts and quite a few of them actually 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.000 freak out with good cause because they still trust government 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.160 and they go, hang on a second, you're telling me 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.560 that my medical costs are going to go up if 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.400 I don't vote Labor. I'm listening because this will affect 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.720 me in my family to the extreme, depending on how 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.000 sick you are or how sick the people in your 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.720 family are. And the fact of the matter is these 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.400 sickos will feed off that fear. That is what they 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.520 are trying to capture. They will literally lie to you 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.840 to get you to go to the polls and vote 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.760 for them. They don't care about the fear and anxiety 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.520 they're causing everyday, honest people by lying to them. They 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.240 just want your vote. And they will stop at nothing 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.480 to do it. And as far as I'm concerned, that 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.600 means neither of them belong in Parliament because you're not 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.120 governing for the people. The very fact that you would 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.680 hit send on that mass text and not care the 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.200 least for the genuine anxiety you are going to cause 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:01.200 Queenslanders tells me everything I know about you. It's and yes, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.280 both sides are now caught in the they've been caught 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.080 out doing it, but that just goes to show me 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.080 who are these people? And why on earth would it 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.480 we elect either of you your sickos. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.720 Well, it's politicians, isn't it that they should have the 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.000 Misinformation Disinformation Bill. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:22.840 Specifically for politicians. Empt Let's have them road. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.000 Tested for a couple of years and if that works out. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.920 Then maybe the rest of us will consider it. But 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.600 of course that will never happen. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.920 And meanwhile, the Premier, Stephen Miles and Queen's out. He 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.000 knows he is toast and he is so desperate to 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.160 hold on to government that he's wheeling out literally anything 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:41.880 he can find now like he. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.760 Is just coming up, Well, a policy written on the 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.840 back of a coaster, that'll do. Let's go with it. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.360 So of course, yes, his campaign launch yesterday and he 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.200 comes out with this ripper, We're going to give free 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:53.680 lunches to school kids. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.000 Take a listen. When I was the Health minister, this 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:57.920 came up a lot. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.800 We did a lot of work on preventing obesity and 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.040 teaching kids what a healthy meal looks like, and a 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.800 lot of people pointed to countries around the world that 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:14.200 have school lunch programs as places where you could test 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.840 side by side different approaches and places where universal free 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.320 lunch had made had made a big difference. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.400 Never mind that ministers in his own cabinet have canned 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:25.760 this idea previously. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.280 We're in the middle of a desperate. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.840 Election campaign, so let's roll it out now. He talks about, oh, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.600 we're going to give free lunches to school kids. Well know, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.240 the tax payer is charged for it, to the tune 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.280 of one point four billion dollars for this plan. It's 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.960 only going to be provided should they win government again, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.360 to students in public schools, not those at independent or 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.600 Christian or or any other denomination schools, because of course 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.560 they can go without lunch. It's just the kids at 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.400 the public schools. It is like the most blatant ploy 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.840 for votes with oh did free money free money? I 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.640 think I have ever seen you? Thought Right was bad 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.000 with his economic stimulus and baby bonuses. Going back to 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.080 the Howard government would. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.080 Say, Clarah, a good idea. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.400 Maybe they actually came with a bit of merit. Now, look, 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.120 I understand that there are a lot of children who 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.600 go to school without having had breakfast, to go to 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.400 school without any food in their lunch boxes. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:19.760 But let's the real problem. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.440 There is not something that the school can fix by 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.960 giving you a free lunch. The real problem is that 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.200 those parents either don't have enough money to put food 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.040 on the table or they're too neglectful to look after 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:31.720 their children. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.640 So the kid goes to school, gets a free. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.399 Lunch, he goes back to exactly the same house at 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.000 the end of the day. None of that changes. It 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.120 simply band aid measures that do nothing. But oh, if 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.800 we tell people we're going to give their kids free lunch. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.520 Maybe they'll vote for it. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.280 And as you pointed out, this isn't even an original idea. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.479 The Greens suggested this in twenty twenty one, and Die Farmer, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.080 who's now the Education Minister just three years ago said 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.000 this was the height of irresponsibility. Now it's her policy. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.199 That's how desperate they are to find something, anything to 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.640 convince people to vote for them, aside from being a 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.960 massive waste of money one point four billion dollars and 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.280 very unfair because, as you said, if you're sending your 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.439 kids to a Christian school or an independent school, and 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.600 most of those are very low fee schools, you're paying 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.800 for everybody else's lunch, whereas your kid doesn't get anything 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.720 from the taxpayer teat. But logistically this is going to 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.639 be a nightmare. Yeah, I mean, I've made lunch for 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:33.280 two kids and it's an absolute nightmare. Satisfied both, They're 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:34.920 going to make lunch for three hundred and twenty six 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.320 thousand kids, all with different allergies and all with different 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.399 wants and needs. How the heck are they going to 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:40.719 do this? 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.879 And also there he was trying to make this about health, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.640 like if you teach kids the elements of healthy lunch, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.639 they're not the ones packing their lunch box. They're not 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.200 the ones responsible for the food in their house. Even 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.640 if they do pack their own lunch box, they can 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.159 only work with the ingredients that mum and dad have 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.520 bought them. So how does that figure. Also, I wouldn't 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.520 trust the state to feed my kid. You can't even 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:10.240 trust the state to educate your kid properly. So please state, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.760 stop impinging on parents' roles. And let's go to the 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.000 US now, where the Democrats, all the famous or rather 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.960 infamous ones, are out in force, trying to scrounge up 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.959 those last few votes before everyone hits heads to the 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:30.600 polls just next month. Yes, it's breathing down our next now, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:36.040 lady and ladies and gentlemen. So imagine you are Bill 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.879 Clinton and you're out on the hustings, trying to hustle 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.720 a few votes, press the flesh, meet members of the public. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:48.320 And this lady, it's some chicken shop, thinks you're Joe Biden. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.679 There he is at a local Macer's and they don't 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.919 even remember Bill Clinton is to be fair, most of 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.800 them do look like Morgue wanderers at this point. So 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:23.480 an old man, white hair shuffled him decrepidly, and you're like, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:24.639 you must be Joe. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.840 But you know what that proves. No one's seen Joe 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.399 Biden for the longest time, so no one remembers what 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.720 the president looks like. So you know, and all old 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.439 guys look the same. But I bet she got his 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:35.240 order wrong as well. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.880 But how would you how would you feel as Bill Clinton, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.119 like you've just been not recognized? She thinks of Joe Biden. 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.639 I mean, what an insult to Bill Clinton. You know, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.919 apart from some of his personal indiscretion. Sure, while he 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.520 was while he was president, you know, he wasn't wrong 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.560 when he said it's the economy stupid. He was a 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.240 reasonable political brain, unlike Joe Biden these days, given that 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.760 his brain has conly disintegrated. But she goes from oh 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.760 my god, it's Joe Biden to it's Bill Clinton, and 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.520 then she's like, oh my god, it's Bill Clinton. Recognize 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.040 and then she's all over him like I knew exactly 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:16.920 who you were. 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.080 Isn't it great to be a former president? 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.400 And then you think about the potential future vice president 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.680 of the United States. Tim Waltzho, of course, is Kamala 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.280 Harris's running mate and his wife Gwen. We know she's 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.479 come out with a bunch of cringeworthy public appearances lately. 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.399 We saw that clipper. A couple of weeks ago. She 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.400 was at a rally saying, you know, we're going. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.600 To turn the page, turn the page. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.879