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Speaker 1: You Project. What else would it be? Who else would

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Speaker 1: So fuck and hell, it's just me and I got

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Speaker 1: a new friend. His name's Ian Williams. He's not having

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a bit of that and more. Ian,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the You Project. Thanks for joining me on

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Speaker 1: a Monday to keep me company. I was a little

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure to meet all, haven't we all?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how when you are the dude who

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Speaker 1: Of course, this is a not a gender specific thing,

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Speaker 1: but I think people sometimes erroneously assume that, oh, you

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Speaker 1: in a different environment. That's all it is, and it's

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Speaker 1: probably more valuable than a lot of what happens within

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Speaker 1: the very very controlled parameters of let's say, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: the business faculty at Montes University or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate that. And it's funny because I do

438
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Speaker 3: corporate stuff. I do leadership stuff, do workshops, and we've

439
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Speaker 3: got a corporate side to the business called the Wellness

440
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Speaker 3: Accelerator Program. Similar methodology around the five pillars. We do

441
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Speaker 3: like a six week program with organizations. And I did

442
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Speaker 3: that because I used to run the workshops for likes

443
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Speaker 3: of DHL, one of the companies I used to work for,

444
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Speaker 3: for example, and we'd do these kind of global leadership

445
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Speaker 3: programs and stuff and I'd be you know, I'd be

446
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Speaker 3: in them, and then i'd be in the future. I

447
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Speaker 3: was running them, and I'm thinking, we ain't landing the

448
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Speaker 3: message year. People are going to come away with their

449
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Speaker 3: booklets and it's going to go on the bottom of it.

450
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Speaker 3: It's going to go on the bottom of the draw.

451
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Speaker 3: So that's a great experience and the money we were investing.

452
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Speaker 3: So I came very passionate about that. And then I

453
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Speaker 3: was working with I was actually helping another leadership company

454
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Speaker 3: scale and I used to do some of their workshops

455
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Speaker 3: as well. Over here in Australia, same thing, and like

456
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Speaker 3: I'll be watching, like I highly skilled facility to come

457
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Speaker 3: from a learning and development background, twenty odd years in

458
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Speaker 3: learning developments. Top of the shop are run the shop,

459
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Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there going you're overwhelming everyone. You're complicating

460
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Speaker 3: the shit out of this. I can get to this

461
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Speaker 3: in two minutes. You're spending an hour and I'm looking

462
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Speaker 3: at everyone like, okay, know, and I think there's a way,

463
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Speaker 3: you know, I think there's a way to simplistically inject

464
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Speaker 3: that emotion in people that lands and what do we want?

465
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Speaker 3: We want movements. They don't have to understand everything, but

466
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Speaker 3: we want movement and then and you know, a kind

467
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Speaker 3: of passion to want to continue that, you know, And

468
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Speaker 3: that's what I found and that's what's working, and that's

469
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Speaker 3: what we're trying to cement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, irrespective of the message, I think, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: do they understand it? Is it meaningful? Can they do

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Speaker 1: something with what I'm sharing with them? Are they engaged

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Speaker 1: do that? Are they enjoying this at least a little bit?

475
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Speaker 1: You know, there's so many really really simple, practical questions

476
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Speaker 1: where you can get somebody up who their content is.

477
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Speaker 1: Let's say it's all well researched and it's mind blowingly

478
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Speaker 1: accurate and whatever.

479
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Speaker 2: But if they're standing in front of a group for.

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Speaker 1: An hour or an hour and a half or two hours,

481
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Speaker 1: and the experience of the group, which is often the case,

482
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Speaker 1: is how fucking much longer is this going for?

483
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Speaker 2: How do I get out of here? When does this end?

484
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Speaker 1: And they're checking their phone and they're looking at their whatever,

485
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Speaker 1: they're looking at their messages and their social media, and

486
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that You might know a lot, But

487
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Speaker 1: if you can't read the room, if you can't build

488
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Speaker 1: rapport and connection, if you can't disseminate complicated stuff in

489
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Speaker 1: a user friendly way, then you're probably not doing a

490
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Speaker 1: very well You're definitely not doing a very good job.

491
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Speaker 1: So that skill that you had to be able to,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, take that sixty minute monologue from whoever and

493
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Speaker 1: turn that into two minutes of something that might build

494
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Speaker 1: rapport and connection and trust and understanding and maybe a

495
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Speaker 1: light bulb moment. That's a superpower as well. And I

496
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Speaker 1: think also apart from the relatability that we want from

497
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Speaker 1: people who are in you know, leadership roles or speaking

498
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Speaker 1: or coaching or educating roles, you know, if you can

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Speaker 1: tell a story where you're going to engage people, if

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Speaker 1: you can be likable, you're going to create engagement. If

501
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Speaker 1: you can be a little bit funny, if you can

502
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Speaker 1: be mildly amusing and self deprecating, well, all of a sudden,

503
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Speaker 1: you're building real connection. But if you're up there just

504
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Speaker 1: barking data and information, people are switching off, not switching on.

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Speaker 3: Well, the zooe people who like the of the lasst

506
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Speaker 3: kind of gizmos, or they love what they love and

507
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Speaker 3: they love some certain dates, and it's like they're going

508
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Speaker 3: to realize not everybody loves that stuff that you love,

509
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Speaker 3: you know. And it's like I always try and get

510
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Speaker 3: to a certain persona, and I think if I can

511
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Speaker 3: get to that persona, I'll get to all of them.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? What's my persona? Which

513
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Speaker 3: I've a land that one get the lot and that's

514
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Speaker 3: what we've found it done. And some of the people

515
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Speaker 3: I've worked with, I'm just thinking, you're not pitching this

516
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Speaker 3: message to you. You've got to realize you're pitching into

517
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Speaker 3: trying to get the collective. You know.

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Speaker 2: I've got a name for that for you. You can

519
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Speaker 2: you can weave this inn.

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Speaker 3: I'll get ready to steal this already. Look, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you write this down, dude, because you'll like this.

522
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Speaker 1: So there's a concept in psychology called the false consensus effect,

523
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Speaker 1: the false consensus effect, and all that means is it

524
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Speaker 1: speaks to the issue or the fact that people assume

525
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Speaker 1: that other people think like them. So when we finish,

526
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Speaker 1: maybe google it. You'll you can definitely with that in

527
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Speaker 1: because that's exactly what you see. You know this stuff already,

528
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Speaker 1: you just didn't know the name, right, So you know

529
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Speaker 1: that people get up and they talk as though they're

530
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Speaker 1: talking to themselves, whereas they're talking to a room of

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Speaker 1: Like if you're talking to fifty different people, well there's

532
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Speaker 1: fifty different experiences being had. Like nobody lives in the

533
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Speaker 1: same personal reality, nobody's got the same mind, nobody's looking

534
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: at life through the same window, nobody's got the same filter,

535
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Speaker 1: nobody's got the same brain. Therefore nobody's having an identical experience.

536
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Speaker 1: So that's your starting point. My question is when I

537
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Speaker 1: always like my research is around this very thing, around

538
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Speaker 1: thinking and around perception and what's it like being around

539
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Speaker 1: me and all of that stuff. But you know, the

540
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Speaker 1: starting point should be for speakers and teachers and coaches.

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Speaker 1: Other than their content, The next important question should be

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Speaker 1: how do these people think, Like, what is their background,

543
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Speaker 1: what is their version of right now? What is their

544
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Speaker 1: reality now? If if you can speak to their version

545
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Speaker 1: of reality they're in the moment, experience, their background, their situation,

546
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Speaker 1: if you can get some insight into how they think,

547
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Speaker 1: which is called theory of mind. If you can get

548
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Speaker 1: some insight into how they think, then you dramatically increase

549
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Speaker 1: your chances of building rapport and trust and connection.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: But if you're just guessing, Oh, Ian thinks like me, well, no,

552
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Speaker 1: Ian's not you. You're fucking idiot. Ian's Ian. So do

553
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Which I like to chat

554
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: to you before we get going, so I can meet

555
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Speaker 1: you for a few minutes to figure out a little bit,

556
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Speaker 1: just like you would do with your guests on your show.

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And it's that's so much easier

558
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Speaker 3: to do if you've got this skill of emotional intelligence.

559
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Speaker 3: So you have what I have in a face to

560
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: face I can be in a room and go, that

561
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: person's got it. That person, how's that going to play

562
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Speaker 3: with you? I'm going to give you a little nudge

563
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Speaker 3: on the side. You need a bit of a hug

564
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: PREVERI you know, I'm going to play this room and

565
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, go, you got you got you go,

566
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Speaker 3: I've got the room. Yeahline perspective, it's a little bit different,

567
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: and it's obviously more complex, more hard, and that's what

568
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: we're working within this MVP will have multiple iterations to

569
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Speaker 3: make sure that we get to that position where we

570
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Speaker 3: do capture everyone, because they're going to be the people

571
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Speaker 3: who are socially awkward to genuinely don't want to use

572
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Speaker 3: the community aspect, but they do want to learn by themselves.

573
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Speaker 3: There's people who learn by listening, these people who live

574
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Speaker 3: by reading. You know, there's all these different ways, and

575
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: we've kind of built the framework there ready to kind

576
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Speaker 3: of go at all that as we kind of iterate

577
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Speaker 3: and develop. But no, I enjoy all the stuff you're

578
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Speaker 3: talking about. It's actually the thing I enjoy most to

579
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Speaker 3: do if I'm doing something in person because one of

580
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Speaker 3: the business I used to run, I've just sold my

581
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Speaker 3: half a shares in a company called kiss My Axe,

582
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Speaker 3: So I had an act owned business over here. When

583
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Speaker 3: I came out of corporate, I was doing leadership storef

584
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Speaker 3: I also launched a business with a business part of mine,

585
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Speaker 3: and we built it to three venues around sitting a

586
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Speaker 3: lot of corporate events, and I would do some like

587
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Speaker 3: whole days there, so I'd do like a half day

588
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Speaker 3: leadership experience going through whatever, and then they'd go into

589
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Speaker 3: the team building where they'd have a two hour tournament

590
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Speaker 3: chucking access, you know, an ultimate celebration and the all

591
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Speaker 3: of the acts thro and kind of hosts without the

592
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Speaker 3: runners tournament. But they were like we get them, like

593
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Speaker 3: you know, actors, singers, because it was like an experience.

594
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Speaker 3: And when we first launched, I said, I'm going to

595
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Speaker 3: get in and the second venue run, I said, I'm

596
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Speaker 3: going to manage the venue. Get up, get me hands

597
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Speaker 3: on the ground, and really, you know, put my energy

598
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Speaker 3: into this. And it was so interesting because you bring

599
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Speaker 3: I said, it was like this hyper way of learning

600
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Speaker 3: and emotional intelligence because every every couple of hours, I've

601
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Speaker 3: got twenty new people, fifty new people and any collective

602
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Speaker 3: and I'm having to make them all enjoy this experience.

603
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Speaker 3: And it was like you, right, this person's really shy.

604
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: This person doesn't know to throw this that, But that's

605
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: the same. And I used to say to our coaches,

606
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Speaker 3: you have that you are You've got such a gifted.

607
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Speaker 3: If you take this by the balls, you show them

608
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: are young kids, you know, I say, if you learn

609
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: this skill, you can transfer this into the corporate world

610
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Speaker 3: because effectively you just kind of learning how to connect

611
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Speaker 3: to people on a deeper level and really get everyone

612
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Speaker 3: on board, and I love that. You know, it's kind

613
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Speaker 3: of my thing to do. If I missed someone on

614
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: the side, I'm like, how did I miss that one?

615
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Speaker 3: You know?

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

617
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also in the middle of that particular scenario,

618
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Speaker 1: trying to make sure that people don't kill each other

619
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Speaker 1: with an axe. I mean, that's another variable that we

620
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: don't genuinely have to deal with. That's fucking precarious, mate,

621
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Speaker 1: good luck. How the fuck did you get insurance for that?

622
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Speaker 3: I know everybody always asked that, but it was, okay,

623
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: don't you worry. We had, we had safety measures in place.

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. I'm not going to

625
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: lean too deeply into that. I was interested before when

626
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Speaker 1: you were talking about Stephen Bartler's podcast Diary of a

627
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: CEO and Chris Williamson's podcast is It Williamson.

628
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Williamson, Yeah.

629
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Speaker 1: And I like both of them, And there's there's quite

630
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Speaker 1: you know, Lex Friedman and Andrew Huberman, the neuroscience dude,

631
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Speaker 1: and like, there's a lot of guys in that that

632
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: space where they're really at a high level in terms

633
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: of the conversations and the the content. But I'm with

634
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: you in that sometimes I would come away from that going, well,

635
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: that was two hours of like almost cognitive overload. You go,

636
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: fucking my brain needs a little sleep now. And I

637
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: don't know, while they're great, and obviously they're doing great

638
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: and they've got big shows. So this is not criticism

639
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: for me, This is just curiosity. I always wonder how

640
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: practically helpful that's going to be for the average punter

641
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: in the average life, whatever that means, who's listening to

642
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: this trying to think better, do better, create better?

643
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree. And if you think of again,

644
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: Chris Williamson, I was speaking to his much Jaid last

645
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Speaker 3: year when I was thinking about the app as a concept.

646
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: Acting Mechros Williamson when he came to do a show

647
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Speaker 3: here in Sydney, and I went to the show and

648
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Speaker 3: I find, you know, the way he's so titulous, he's

649
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: so he's pure, beautifully spoken. But I look at all

650
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: the people in the audience. The majority of the people

651
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: in the audience were people on on the journey. They

652
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: were on the growth journey. They were you know, look

653
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: like a lot of high performers. They look like people

654
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: who maybe took care of themselves, had the fitness wise

655
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: I didn't see the people. It might be really the

656
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: struggle point of struggling, and my persona of the person

657
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to reach wouldn't understand Chris Williamson. We've got

658
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: a persona. We've got a name for him and everything,

659
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: but I don't want to talk because there's actually a

660
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: real guy who I was coaching previously. So we've got

661
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: a persona. That persona would not understand Chris Williamson's language

662
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: because he's very articulately. He goes deep the words that

663
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: he users and stuff like that. You know, sometimes ALPHACU

664
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: has struggled, so you're one hundred percent right, and the

665
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: overwhelm that comes from that, it's almost like I'm not

666
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: good enough. I don't understand. I don't understand this stuff.

667
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: I might be I might be in a waste position

668
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: than I actually thought. There's all this stuff coming at me,

669
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: and then you should see me and what I watch

670
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: these sometimes and I am screaming, I've got the answer.

671
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: They would the fucking app here go here when they're saying,

672
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: you know, because you preach all this stuff, and that's

673
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: why I'm sitting here as a you know, forty eight

674
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: lad from Liverpool, done my thing, humble background. You know

675
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: I haven't got, you know, a shipload of money. What

676
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: money I've I've invested in this passion papers. I've just

677
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: sold another business to burn my boats to focus on

678
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: the thing. And I'm thinking, you guys have got a

679
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: shed load of money and a shadow of reach and

680
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: a shadload of drive in this. If I can get

681
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: to this point, and I know where it's going to

682
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: get to, I believe it will be the biggest, the

683
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: biggest global men's metal fitness app in the world, and

684
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: it will reduce suicide directly correlated to it, because it

685
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: once again, I'm looking investment at the moment of doing

686
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: all the thing, and I don't think and if A

687
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: can do this, yes and get those points, why the

688
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: hell are some of these people who seems to be

689
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: that passionate and in a position far greater than me,

690
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: little old me to be able to do this? It

691
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: baffles me.

692
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could guess that a few of the

693
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: answers to that, but I might get myself in trouble.

694
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that all of these people care as

695
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: much as they want people to think they care. Maybe

696
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: they do, Maybe they do I'm not sure. I think

697
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: the brand and the pr might override some of the

698
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: other stuff, you know, and the sales and the bottom line.

699
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's okay. You can do both.

700
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: You can have a good business, you can make some dough,

701
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: you can help some people. You can be kind, you

702
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: can be generous, you can live in a bloody mansion,

703
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: you can drive it, you can do whatever you want.

704
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be one or the other. But

705
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that you know, and I'm

706
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: still a work in progress and i'm a fuck up,

707
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: But you know, like I know that with your passion,

708
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: with your drive, with your brain, with your experience, with

709
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: your skill, with your very very high level of communication,

710
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: you can do some amazing shit.

711
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: And you're already doing amazing shit, so you know.

712
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: But I think that the thing with that too is

713
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: there's no reason why you need to choose helping people

714
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: or making a great living, like this is.

715
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: We can do both. You know.

716
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm a corporate speaker. I get paid really well. I

717
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: also do other things for free. Right I've done over

718
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: two thousand podcasts. Nobody pays for any of these podcasts.

719
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: This is just all free content. That goes into the world,

720
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: and I do it gladly. And yes we're sponsored, but honestly,

721
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: some months we make quite good dose.

722
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: Some months we make fuck all it.

723
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Speaker 1: You know, it's I'm definitely not like if your plan

724
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: to get riches to start a podcast, you need to

725
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: rethink it.

726
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: Well, I'm totally with you. I mean, you've gone all

727
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: in with two thousand. I do put I launched, I

728
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: do one every two weeks. I've got a few in

729
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: the bank. I think I'm nearly up to thirty now.

730
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: And again, nothing in that, no SPONSORIP at the moment.

731
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: I've been bathing that to coincide as a bit of

732
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: a social kind of conveyor belt for the messaging that

733
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: we're doing. But like you know, one hundred percent right,

734
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: I I've got the you know, I haven't been. I've

735
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: sold my business, which is give me some money, but

736
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: I've got nothing gaining at the moment. But I've got

737
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: good men helping good men. I've got the Artist to

738
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 3: Humanity Wellness program. There will be a good women helping

739
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: good women, and there will be a good parents helping

740
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: good parents. Will have vent to get to the children.

741
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: Probably around twenty twenty seven. Now, this will generate revenue.

742
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: It will generate abundance. Once it turns, I will do

743
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: stuff with that abundance. What the thing is. I'm not

744
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: sitting here thinking I just want to get shitloads of

745
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: money and do this thing. I believe that to be

746
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: in a position of influence to do what I want

747
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: to do because I believe that. You know the thing

748
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: I just described there, It's like if I talk on

749
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: social media. Social media, you know, the age of children,

750
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: age of men is now fifteen to forty five years

751
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: ago it might be twenty to forty five. Social media

752
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 3: continues and the age is dropping, right, So humanity is failing.

753
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: Clearly the employee opinion say, survey of human kind business

754
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: is our increasing mental health crisis and the rise and

755
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: rates of suicidality that our employee opinion survey. We're no good.

756
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: As I said the other day, we'd be bankrupt, we'd

757
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: have no investors, we'd be making no money, we'd have

758
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: no customers, and all the employees who are believing we

759
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: couldn't recruit. We would be failed. But yet we continue

760
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: down this pathway. So it's a failing it's a completely

761
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: failing business. And you when you put it like that

762
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: and simplify the message. I'm thinking, if I was in

763
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: a position of influence, whether it be whoever it be,

764
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: not throwing names, there's people in positions of influence, I

765
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: would be saying out the social media even AI, right AI,

766
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: everyone's saying it could be the end of humanity, could

767
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: becoming sentient. All this type of crab, Well, I would

768
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: want to know. If I was leading, I would say, well,

769
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: hang on a minute, stop, all you fuckers stop, can

770
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: you can you tell me that it we're safe? Well

771
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: fucking stop, I'm telling you that stops. Can you tell

772
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: me now you fucking stopped? And there's got to be

773
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: a check for humanity. Now there's multiple layers. I almost

774
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: see this solution, and the solution you have to be

775
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: in a position financially and credibility wise as a position

776
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: to be able to get in today to have discussions

777
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: and ultimately whether it would be the likes of the me,

778
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: the likes of you, or someone who's genuinely down the line,

779
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: who genuinely asks humanity's best interest to harts to start

780
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: having some discussions because clearly it's so obviously fucking corrupting

781
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: aspect of financial gains. It's all about this financial medical round.

782
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: It's so obvious that anyone with the brains we that

783
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: were sailing off the edge of a cliff. And for me,

784
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: I've got a bigger thing behind it. So, yes, the

785
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: money will come. I believe the abundance will be great

786
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: in across the all. But then what would that may

787
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: allow me to do? Help more, create things, bring back

788
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: youth censors. When I was a kid, either youth sense

789
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: I used to play football Tuesdays and Thursday Stafford more

790
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: than youth club round the corner of my goal. It's

791
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: all done. They're done. Everyone's fucking stuck on the phone

792
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: now and I think this. I think the solutions are

793
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: more simple. Some of the solutions are more simple than

794
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: they're being made out to be. I think if with

795
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, and ultimately so they're going back. I know

796
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: it's along with the way because I have this vision

797
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: and mission of where all this goes. I love it.

798
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 2: I love it. Keep going.

799
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the money will come, but it's going to

800
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: come for the right reasons. And when it does come,

801
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to help more and I'm going to get

802
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: more of a Yeah I can I can it how

803
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: we would I think this goes, but I am on

804
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: a fucking mission and I wont stop until I get there.

805
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: I love it, And you know what, you're right? I think.

806
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: Like just when you were talking about going off the edge, humany,

807
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: going off the edge of a fucking cliff, right, I think, Okay,

808
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: if we if we could hit the pause button for

809
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: a moment, and we go, okay, So let's talk about

810
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: a couple of things.

811
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Let's talk about health. Let's talk about obesity.

812
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: We go, Well, we've got more information, education, more fucking

813
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, workshops and books and programs and products, pills, powders, potions.

814
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: How are we going with, you know, the obesity crisis.

815
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about what anyone looks like. I'm not

816
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: trying to devalue anyone's worth. But we know that obesi

817
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: correlates with poor health. Well, we're more obese than we've

818
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: ever been. Cool, Okay, what about mental health? Oh, we've

819
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: got more of this more that. How's that going. Oh,

820
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: we've got more mental health issues than ever before, at

821
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: the same time as we've got more comsation and resources

822
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: than ever Oh, what about like commercially and financially, how

823
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: we're going, oh, well, most people won't be able to

824
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: afford a fucking home. Oh Like, it seems like despite

825
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: the fact that we've got more programs, products, pills, powders,

826
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: fucking books, research workshops, seminars, university degrees, shit's not working.

827
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: So like, talk about data, talk about evidence.

828
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Just shut the fuck up from a moment and just

829
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: turn down the emotion, turn down your bias, and try

830
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: to just be really aware about what is happening right

831
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: now in the world. It is not whatever we're doing,

832
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: it isn't working now. We're not blaming anyone, we're not

833
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: being critical of anyone. We're just assessing the fucking reality.

834
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Of what is.

835
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: And what is is that humans have never been more

836
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: fucked than right now now. Whether or not people like

837
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: that or don't like that, that's just my assessment. But

838
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: we've got everything and nothing one hundred percent.

839
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: As I say, if you look at the business terms,

840
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: it's a failed business. It's fucked. It's going off the

841
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: edge of it list. And yeah, I was just saying

842
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: that again. My traffic light system's coming into play. There's

843
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: a traffic light system here for humanity high level and

844
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: the likes of save me and you talking like we

845
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: were in a room and there was you know, IM

846
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: not saying we're fucking bright minds or anything, but I'm

847
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: sure there's a lot of smart, smarter people than I.

848
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 3: But if you get people in a room and said, right,

849
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: let's get a traffic light system, simple of all of

850
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: these things, if you can see it, you can manage it.

851
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: You can fucking manage anything. Everything has a solution. It's data.

852
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: It's zero ones. You can fucking sort it out. And

853
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: if I was drawing on a thing, I know number

854
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: one it. But if I was drawing with him, money

855
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: was going, right, I'd be drawing circles, going walking. You

856
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: know what's that doing there? Fucking you know what's that

857
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: doing there? And then you know we get okay, where's

858
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: money getting distributes? Okay, that's a bit fucking that's going

859
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: it's going against humanity. And this is at the core

860
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: of my movement, at the core of our movement good men,

861
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: good women, good children, and the ADDS Humanity Well Less

862
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: Accelerator program. There's a question, and the question is are

863
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: the actions I'm about to take other words, I'm about

864
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: to speak, going to intentionally harm others? And if The

865
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: answer to that is, yes, you're going against the very

866
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 3: grain of humanity, and I think we've lost that code.

867
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: It's like a code within humanity. So many people do

868
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: that and have all of a sudden of everybody done

869
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 3: that today. That would give the pause. It'd be like, oh,

870
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: stop the pause that you talk about, and we code

871
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: into ourselves that very grainy thing. It would be, you know,

872
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: it would be very There'd be a lot of different

873
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: discussions and you know, ultimate equations to decide which is

874
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: the best way for less half of your humanity in

875
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: this current climate. But ultimately that's where it go. And

876
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: I believe there would be a traffic light system you

877
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: would get in a room and all the brightest minds

878
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: in the world would be able to improve the human

879
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: card business model. Because the human card business model has failed.

880
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 3: It's been losing money how far many years, losing employees

881
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: for how many years. It's fucked. But we could fix

882
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: it because that's what we are. We're smart by design,

883
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: we're creative, but we're creating all this Why are we

884
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: fucking creating fucking rockets to piss off to Mars when

885
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: we've got all of this stuff here that we need

886
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: to sort out. Use that smart to fix some of

887
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: this stuff. I guarantee it's a lot easier.

888
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Uh, I've got a new man crush. You're very funny

889
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: and I fucking I totally agree. Good help good men

890
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: helping good men is the app. So www dot GMHGM

891
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: dot com.

892
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: Go have a look at the website.

893
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Now, tell us about Just tell my audience and give

894
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: us the sales pitch. I know, I know they don't

895
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: have to buy anything, so it's a shit sales pitch.

896
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: But tell them how they can get involved.

897
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: Support you. This is your time to shine sunshine.

898
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so as you say, it isn't a pitch. This

899
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: has been designed for men, and there will be a

900
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: women's welcoming. You know for all the piece brigades. There

901
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: will be good women helping good women that'll be looked

902
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: after by the feminine, which would be my missus who

903
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: is running women's sair. Because as we speak, so by

904
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: joining this movement, it's the early phage MVP. You know,

905
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: it's free. Whilst we kind of develop, we will want

906
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: we use much feedback to say what works what doesn't

907
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: When you come through. The unique thing is there's a

908
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: community aspect, so whether you're struggling, or you've got a

909
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: nat who's struggling and you know that guy that your

910
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: friends really having a problem. You can join add them

911
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 3: and say hey, connect with us when you rate each

912
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: other on a weekly basis. If you're connected, then you

913
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: you know, approve each other when your rate themselves. And

914
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: he goes backwards, he doesn't need to say anything to

915
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: you because he.

916
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: Might not want to.

917
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: But you can reach out because you'll get a notification.

918
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: They'll say, hey, your brother Craig's gone back twenty percent.

919
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: He might need to reach out. That's what the notification

920
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: through the app does, and then it connects you through

921
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: to WhatsApp and then you can say, hey, brother, how

922
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: are you. I've done this many times. I had a

923
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: friend of mine we went to Ireland a few weeks

924
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, and I seen a massive decline.

925
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: It came through and it came up, your brother Jack

926
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: might need a hand. I reached out to him and

927
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: he did need the hand. He was back there, he

928
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: was having problems with his family. He dropped back massively.

929
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: We spoke for an hour. It made him feel better.

930
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: And then you know how many men could we say

931
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: by doing this, you know, So it's even if you're okay,

932
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: you might need to know someone who could who could

933
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: benefit from this. But also we just need as many

934
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: people to get involved to give us as much feedback

935
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: as as possible because we're currently going for fund and

936
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: for the you know, for the big bang to really

937
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: blast it off globally. So the more information we get

938
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: for the next iteration, the better for more men.

939
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: And people can download the app just by going to

940
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: the app store type and help and good men, Yeah, good.

941
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: Men, help and good man. It's on the app Store,

942
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: it's on Android, it's on Apple. Download it for free now.

943
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: And mate, I didn't bring it up intentionally, but before

944
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: we go, you're dealing you're dealing with some really, really

945
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: really hard stuff right now as we record. I know

946
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: your dad's not in a great place and you're flying

947
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: out tomorrow morning. I don't know if you're okay with

948
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: me to share this, but love and hugs to you,

949
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: big men. And I know your dad's on the home straight,

950
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: so to speak, and you're going to get over there

951
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: and try and share the love hopefully in time. So mate,

952
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you did this today, knowing what I

953
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: know about what's going on in your life, but nothing

954
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: but respect for you and all the love and all

955
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: the hugs to you and your family and your dad,

956
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: and thanks for coming to play on the You project.

957
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: And I'll be thinking I'll be tomorrow as you fly

958
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: back to the UK. Thank you brother, Thanks mate,