1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Before we start today's podcast, we want to acknowledge the 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: horrific terrorist attack that took place in Bondai yesterday. We're 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: absolutely devastated to hear the news. Today's recap podcast pales 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: in significance to the events that took place yesterday. We're 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: sending our thoughts to all the victims, their families, the 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Sydney Jewish community and everybody affected by this senseless attack. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: This is what the flux. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm Brett and I'm Justin and it's Monday, the fifteenth 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: of December. We are very excited to be doing our 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: very first recap episode for twenty twenty five now be Man. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: As you know, retail is one of the lifebloods of 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: the Australian economy, with employees, millions of ossies. It fills 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: our shopping centers and it gives us a real time 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: read on how confident people are with their money, and 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five gave us a heap to talk about. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: So in this recap episode, we're taking you through the 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: three biggest retail stories of twenty twenty five in Australia. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: What happened, why it mattered, and what it tells us 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: about where Ossie Retail is heading next. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Three generous stories today, Juzzy boys, let's do it for 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: our first. Chemist Warehouse officially launched on the ASX yesterday 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: as its mega merger with Sigma Healthcare went live. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Now it's time for investing. Why pay more for the 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: share price? So tell me what'll be man. 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: Well, juzzy boy. We all know Chemists Warehouse as the 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: pharmacy with ales tighter than compression socks. 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: And the jingle more catchy than hot Potato by the Wiggle. 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: But since its first store in two thousand, Chemist Warehouse 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: has grown to more than six hundred. 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Stores and be Man or Chemists Warehouse announced its plans 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: to merge with Sigma Healthcare back in December twenty twenty three. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Yesterday was their hard launch. 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: And Chemists Warehouse sprinted from a private company to the 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: nineteenth largest on the as HOUSE. 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: We're talking to company worth around thirty two billion dollars. 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Now, for some perspective here, Chemists Warehouse is valued more 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: than Colds and more than double of Quantus and be Man. 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: With so few big name companies listing on the ACEX lately, 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: there has been a heap of buyers that have been 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: sweeping in yep, and naturally a lot of sellers getting out, 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: in particular Man Chemist's Warehouse franchisees, who collectively were holding 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: more than a third of the company pre IPO. And 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: unlike the Chemists ware House founders, these franchisees shares those were. 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Unescrowed, so they're making a rain at buster the nasal spray. 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: So what is the key learning here? 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: When a company goes public or mergers with another company, 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: shareholders are often required to hold onto their shares for 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: a set period of time. 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: Now. This is called escro and it's designed to prevent 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: a flood of shares hitting the market all. 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: At once, which could crash the share price. 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: For example, Jazzy Boy Chemist Warehouse co founders own forty 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: eight point three percent of the merged company. 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: So if they were to sell all their shares on 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: day one, it would be way more supply of shares 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: than demands. 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Causing the share price to decline big time, not to 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: mention the fact that new investors would be less likely 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: to invest if they knew the founders were out on 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: day one. 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: On the other hand, THO. B. Man Chemist's Warehouse franchisees, 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: who earned about thirty seven and a half percent of 63 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the company aren't under escrow terms. 64 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: And with so much interest in chemists ware house stock, 65 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: many franchisees have already jumped at the chance to cash in. 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: And while the sales of franchise shares has already begun, 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: we could see even more selling in the coming week. 68 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: For our second story, the Reject Shop is planning to 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: rebrand its stores into Dollarama stores as it pushes towards 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: becoming a super low priced retailer. 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Wasn't it already kind of low priced? Hallou can you do? 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 73 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Tell me what's going on here? So? 74 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: The Reject Shop started in Melbourne in nineteen eighty one 75 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: as a retailer that sold discontinued lines of products and 76 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: factory rejects, but over the years. 77 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: It's become a lot more than just rejects. 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: It sells everything from snacks to party hats, to health 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: foods and cleaning supplies. 80 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: But beman from late twenty thirteen to early twenty twenty five, 81 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the Reject Shop's share price had plummeted more than eighty 82 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: three percent. 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: So in July this year, Dollarama announced his acquisition of 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: the Reject Shop for two hundred and fifty nine million dollars. 85 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: And be man, if you're wondering who Dollarama is, that 86 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: is the nearly fifty eight billion dollar Canadian discounting behavior 87 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: which has a nothing of a five dollar promise. 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Yep, it literally has nothing in store over five bucks. 89 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: And now the Reject Shop's new corporate overlord has revealed 90 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: its plans for a full scale transformation of the Region shop. 91 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: The Reject Shop's iconic name will eventually disappear and it 92 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: will be replaced by Dollarama branding and the Dollarma crew 93 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: plant to double the Australian store count to seven hundred 94 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: by twenty thirty four. 95 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: They're also planning to leverage dollar Arma's massive supply chain 96 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: to flight Australian stores with ultra cheap products. 97 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: And they Man, they're certainly trying to disrupt the market 98 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: with some price leadership. 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: So what is the key learning here? 100 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Price leadership is most commonly when a company uses lower 101 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: pricing to reshape an industry. 102 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: It forces competitors to either follow suit or risk losing 103 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: market share. 104 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: In Australia, we've seen Audi pull out the price leadership 105 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: against Coles and Rullies over the past two decades. 106 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: And of course they've seen Kmart do this to Big 107 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: W and ironically the reject shop too. 108 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: But now the region shop with its Dollarama Mite is 109 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: pulling out the unu reverse cards Kmart. 110 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: The danger for incumbents is that they can't always match 111 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: those prices without crushing their own margins. The goal for 112 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: Dollarma would be to push out weaker players from the market. 113 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: We know the Big W is already struggling after it's 114 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollar loss for the last financial year. 115 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: So this price leadership is about res setting customer expectations 116 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: for what cheap actually looks like. 117 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: The real discount war has only just begun. Your move next, 118 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: km Us. 119 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: For our third and final story, Coles has seen it 120 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: chares jump eight percent after a big push in its 121 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: home brand products. 122 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: The little red quote going hard and performing well, so 123 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: tell me more so. 124 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: Cole's Group is the company that owns major Rossie supermarket 125 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: Giant Coals, as well. 126 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: As one thousand liquor stores across the country under the 127 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: liquor Land brand. 128 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: But joseiboit. We know that over the past twelve months, 129 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 2: Coals has made a big push to chase market leader 130 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: all leez. 131 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Yep Coles is double down on its downdown campaigns as 132 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: well as its private label brand, and it was good 133 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: news for the big red. 134 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: Coals Group's sales lifted one point seven percent to forty 135 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: four point five billion, but be man. 136 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: It's group net profit actually dipped by three and a 137 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: half percent. 138 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: Okay, what were the main offenders? 139 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Well, the earnings from liquorland fell. 140 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: And tobacco sales fell thirty percent because of the black 141 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: market tobacco trade. 142 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Interesting the sin categories. 143 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: But Josie Boit hold up right there because on a 144 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: normalized basis, Coals Group sales were actually up three point 145 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: six percent and. 146 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: It's profits up two point four percent. 147 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: So what is the key learning here? 148 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Not all financial years are created equal, especially in supermarkets 149 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: where some years stretch to fifty three weeks. 150 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Yep. That is why Coles also reported their normalized financial 151 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: results to investors, and normalized results are well. Normalized figures 152 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: strip out unusual factors like an extra trading week to 153 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: give a clear review of a company's performance. 154 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: And this matters for retailers like Coals more than an 155 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: industry like financial services or banking. 156 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: And why is that? 157 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: Because retailers like supermarkets report results in weekly periods, so 158 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: an extra week means an extra seven days of supermarket sales. 159 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: It's basically like coals playing an extra round of footy 160 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: in the season. 161 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: YEP, the last time Coles reported on a fifty three 162 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: week basis was actually FO twenty four, but before. 163 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: That it was f OX nineteen, so it doesn't happen 164 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: too often. 165 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: That is why analysts look at normalized numbers, which strip 166 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: out that extra week to show true performance the coals. 167 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Those numbers were strong enough to impress it the checkout 168 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: and the stock. 169 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: Market, and clearly it impressed investors enough because coal shares jumped. 170 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: A only all years had fifty three weeks for goals. 171 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: That's it for today. Botsdown our first recap episode on 172 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: the Biggest Australian retail stories of twenty twenty five. Join 173 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: us on Wednesday for a recap on the biggest tech 174 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: stories of twenty twenty five. Thanks for listening and we'll 175 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: see you on Wednesday.