WEBVTT - DO YOU EVEN HAVE EGGS TO PUT IN SOMEONE'S BASKET??

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<v Speaker 1>I want the fairy tale, I want the prince charming.

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<v Speaker 2>She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>my kissing style with.

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<v Speaker 1>A boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching them.

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<v Speaker 3>Mus I love being love, I love love.

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<v Speaker 4>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are

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<v Speaker 4>welcoming nat crn goodis healthcare practitioner and natural fertility expert

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<v Speaker 4>to the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to chat all things women's health and find

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<v Speaker 3>out more about how you can improve your fertility. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also going to ask a few questions about mine.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around to hear all things hormones, birth control, and PMS.

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<v Speaker 5>At Thank you for having me, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Natt is my natural path and she has helped

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<v Speaker 4>me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously, I've done it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done the pill, I had the rod in my arm,

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<v Speaker 4>hated them all, had the marina and then I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of spoke to Nat actually about taking out the marina,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was like, this is a great idea, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it first.

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<v Speaker 1>I did love it at first.

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<v Speaker 5>I did love it first, and I think that's important

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<v Speaker 5>to actually point out because a lot of women do

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<v Speaker 5>love it first, and there's nothing wrong with that if

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<v Speaker 5>it works for you. About having all the information.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting, right because I was like the biggest advocate

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<v Speaker 4>for the marina, which I kind of feel a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit bad about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that you have to feel bad because

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<v Speaker 5>it works until it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first my first experience, because I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if I've told you this, Matt was a really great experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually getting it in was a terrible experience. But after

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<v Speaker 4>it was put in, I had five years of bliss,

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<v Speaker 4>like didn't think about contraception once.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great.

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<v Speaker 4>The marine is the right, Yeah, no, the marina goes

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that thing that you just had goes in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it sits in like a little T shape in

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<v Speaker 5>the uterus. Yeah, it's like a little it literally is

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<v Speaker 5>a rod that sits in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Say it's like oh okay, well yeah, I like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know much about this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're about to get it in education. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so great experience. Second time I had it in, I

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<v Speaker 4>went under because of my first bad experience of getting

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<v Speaker 4>it put in. But then after that I felt really

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<v Speaker 4>uncomfortable and like during sex it was quite sore, just

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<v Speaker 4>you know when intuitively something feels wrong, like I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like they put it in wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't want to be like, hey, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think you put this in wrong, because they'd probably be like,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You know nothing?

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<v Speaker 5>How do you know how you feel?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing, right, is like we aren't really taught

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<v Speaker 4>growing up to listen to our bodies.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not taught at all. And this is my I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not here to say you should or you shouldn't. I

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<v Speaker 5>just want everyone to have information, and especially I've got

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<v Speaker 5>a fifteen nearly fifteen year old, and the more I

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<v Speaker 5>can help her understand, the less she fears it, the

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<v Speaker 5>more she knows when she's actually fertile when she's not,

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<v Speaker 5>and she can make choices around that. But to flatline

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<v Speaker 5>your hormones all the time, it doesn't come without issues.

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<v Speaker 5>As you worked out, and I'm so interested to see

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<v Speaker 5>how you feel moving forward, not being on any birth

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<v Speaker 5>control because women will say to me nine and a

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<v Speaker 5>half times out of ten, I didn't know what it

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<v Speaker 5>was like to feel like me. Yeah, because it changes

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<v Speaker 5>your brain, it changes your hormones, and so therefore you

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<v Speaker 5>don't feel like you actually are a different version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's what a lot of women are discovering.

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<v Speaker 1>I already feel better.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna lie like when I initially got the

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<v Speaker 4>Marina taken out, I was in the dumbs like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Soty got it. I googled it and it said I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a hormone crash.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, would you say that the marina and that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of stuff suppress your natural life?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the marina works with the bit differently, so the

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<v Speaker 5>pill definitely flatlines everything. We know that, so the hormones

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<v Speaker 5>within the oral contraceptive pill just keep everything the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct it It's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not because there's there's benefits to your hormones cycling and

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<v Speaker 5>how you feel and your mentrual cycle is different every

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<v Speaker 5>single day. If you think about what my hormones were

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<v Speaker 5>doing yesterday and what they're going to do tomorrow is

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<v Speaker 5>completely different, and how is going to be correct and

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes but having said that,

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<v Speaker 5>there are times where you're at your peak and you're awesome,

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<v Speaker 5>and you would notice that whereas you don't get those

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<v Speaker 5>ebbs and flows on birth control. And let's just say also,

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<v Speaker 5>there are people on birth control for many reasons, not

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<v Speaker 5>just contraception. And so we're not sitting here going you

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<v Speaker 5>should stop, but we've got to look at why someone's

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<v Speaker 5>taking it.

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<v Speaker 3>For other reasons. Like I remember back at school, girls

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<v Speaker 3>would take it, particularlyar their.

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<v Speaker 2>Skin up and stuff like that. Did you do it

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<v Speaker 2>for weight loss? I don't know, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you put it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you tend to most most girls put on weight.

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<v Speaker 5>But the problem with the acne, which is really common,

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<v Speaker 5>is it doesn't treat the reason why you're getting acne.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's problem because when you come off, then your

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<v Speaker 5>acne comes flooding back because it was never actually addressed.

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<v Speaker 5>And the only way we can really know that is

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<v Speaker 5>to test someone's hormones to see what they're doing. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's a very end.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, that's probably something that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>It can have long term This is the other thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Any medication has side effects for implications and It's one

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<v Speaker 5>thing to take it, but then what can you do

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<v Speaker 5>whilst you're on that to support your body. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>I live for this day where your GP says, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to give you a marina, but we kind

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<v Speaker 5>of know it does. I imbalance things, it does upset

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<v Speaker 5>our gut health. It does that, which has a flow

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<v Speaker 5>on effect. How about also you take a multivitem multi

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<v Speaker 5>mineral of fish oil and maybe some probiotics to support

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<v Speaker 5>you and that when not there yet, that still doesn't We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Case a morning wine and an evening wine and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you're probably o ding on vitamins, so let's

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<v Speaker 4>carry well.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I just sing up with so much other shit

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<v Speaker 3>in my body, Like may as well like level it

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<v Speaker 3>up with some clean stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Good, Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely interesting because I had a chat with NAT

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<v Speaker 4>and then I went to my gynecologist and he was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a terrible idea. He's like, because I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to get it out and he was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to give you a week.

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<v Speaker 1>To think about this, and I was like, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can't get it out today and he was like no,

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<v Speaker 1>he said.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that's stuck with me is he said, women aren't

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to get their periods every month. Back in the

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<v Speaker 4>olden days, women would get pregnant at like seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they would probably keep getting pregnant throughout their life,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you're not meant to have your period every month.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, that just seems so contradictory to

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<v Speaker 4>anything I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 5>I this is a common conversation that people are having

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<v Speaker 5>with their health providers, not all health providers, but to me,

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<v Speaker 5>it is extremely lazy to suggest that you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to have a period, because here's the reality of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Say you're seventeen and you fall pregnant and then you're

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<v Speaker 5>lactating as well, so you're breastfeeding your baby. A lot

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<v Speaker 5>of women don't get their period when they're breastfeeding, so

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<v Speaker 5>you go through a period of time where you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>But the minute your body starts ovulating again, you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to get a period. Now, if you fall pregnant again,

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<v Speaker 5>then of course your period's going to go away. But

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't, your period's still going to be there

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<v Speaker 5>every month. So I was like, that doesn't even make sense,

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<v Speaker 5>because if you're not pregnant or lactating, then you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be hopefully ovulating and getting a period. I understand

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<v Speaker 5>that times have changed, but to shut down any body system,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like saying, oh, I don't think you need to

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<v Speaker 5>move your bowels anymore. We're just gonna literally just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>stop that. It's like, that's the most ridiculous thing I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever heard. There's nothing in our bodies that don't serve

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<v Speaker 5>a purpose, so to suggest that, it's very common to

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<v Speaker 5>suggest that, and it's believed that we don't need it.

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<v Speaker 5>But in the circles that I exist in especially, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're going to see a lot more of this.

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<v Speaker 5>In functional medicine, your period is really a report card

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<v Speaker 5>of your hormones and you get that feedback every month,

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<v Speaker 5>and if there's a problem with it, then you get

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<v Speaker 5>to look at that and you go, Okay, i've had

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<v Speaker 5>pain this month, or it hasn't been comfortable, or it

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<v Speaker 5>was early or it was late, Like what is my

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<v Speaker 5>body telling me? And you can use those symptoms and

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<v Speaker 5>signs as clues as to what to do next.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a chat with you, and I think after coming

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<v Speaker 4>off of contraception, sometimes it can be hard for women

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<v Speaker 4>to get their period back, So you did an acupuncture

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<v Speaker 4>point on me to help me get it back, and

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<v Speaker 4>literally woke up the next morning had my period.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like fuck, I was. I was like, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you that, but also damn it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was the sum of many things. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was the timing of the acupuncture. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was like, you know that there are accupuncture sequences

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<v Speaker 5>that you can use to promote ovulation and get a period,

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<v Speaker 5>and sometimes it can help to speed things up for

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<v Speaker 5>women that have missed circles. Altogether, it can help with

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<v Speaker 5>that as well. But I think it was it was good,

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<v Speaker 5>good time, and look the thing when you came in

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<v Speaker 5>you were also really sick. So I was like, we

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<v Speaker 5>actually have to treat that first. That's my priority over

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<v Speaker 5>you getting your period back. You don't need your period

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<v Speaker 5>right now to be healthy. We need to support your

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<v Speaker 5>immune system a little bit better. But we got we

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<v Speaker 5>got the double way.

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<v Speaker 4>I let's talk about acupuncture because I feel like not

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people know about it. I did a

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<v Speaker 4>poll saying on my Instagram story saying have you ever

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<v Speaker 4>had acupuncture before? And I think it was like thirty

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<v Speaker 4>percent of people had had it and.

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<v Speaker 5>Different yes, yes, but different. So dry needling is really common.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people have had dry needling.

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<v Speaker 5>They've gone to their my therapists, their physio, their cairo,

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<v Speaker 5>their osteo, and it's that dry need a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a little bit stick it where it hurts and

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<v Speaker 5>stimulated until you're like feeling like you're, you know, been

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<v Speaker 5>nailed to a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>They were bringing it in my shoulder and that's something

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<v Speaker 3>I actually felt, not too bad.

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<v Speaker 5>He walked out like this. So dry needling, yes, intercepts

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<v Speaker 5>the message to the brain helps to relax the muscle.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's really good for musculoskeletal treatments where you get

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<v Speaker 5>pain within the body. But acupuncture is another layer to

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<v Speaker 5>that again where I mean, I went to university for

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<v Speaker 5>four years to learn how to properly use acupunture as

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<v Speaker 5>a tool. And there's many ways that it's it's been

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<v Speaker 5>proven to work, and there's many theories about how it

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<v Speaker 5>does work. Traditionally, it's it's a little we use meridians

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<v Speaker 5>and it's it's a little bit like corridors. I explain

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<v Speaker 5>it that you open and close doors to influence how

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<v Speaker 5>energy in the body is moving. And we say that

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<v Speaker 5>every organ has a meridian and a maridian you know

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<v Speaker 5>that goes down an arm or down a leg, and

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<v Speaker 5>so we use various points to change the way the

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<v Speaker 5>body's working. Essentially, we know that certain points, well, there's

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<v Speaker 5>one acupunch of point that's been researched because there's no

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<v Speaker 5>money in researching acupunch of points, let's be honest, So

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<v Speaker 5>why we're researching it. But it is definitely been proven

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<v Speaker 5>to reduce all inflammation in the body.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And because it communicates with the vagus nerves, so we

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<v Speaker 5>know it works. And when it's been studied under observation

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<v Speaker 5>where they've injected die. These meridians that I talk about,

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<v Speaker 5>which aren't like a vein or a vessel or they're

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<v Speaker 5>not actually something that we physically see, but they are

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<v Speaker 5>a space that exists between muscles, tendons, bones, and there

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<v Speaker 5>actually has been proven that the meridian exists. So we've

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<v Speaker 5>got a lot more to learn. But I want to

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<v Speaker 5>know who the first person was that was sitting under

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<v Speaker 5>a tree one day three thousand years ago. I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna pop this point down here and oh, look, your

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<v Speaker 5>headaches gone. So there's lots of theories as to how

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<v Speaker 5>it works. At the end of the day. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>utilizing acupunchy inclining for nineteen years, which makes me feel

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<v Speaker 5>really old, and the results still surprise me today, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still ark and it's you know, so it's good.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really good. And I think one of the other

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<v Speaker 5>things we know is it reduces stress dramatically. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 5>when someone we can move them out of a state

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<v Speaker 5>of fight and flight into an optimal state, then their

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<v Speaker 5>body's going to work better.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I say, you've moved me out of some fut

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<v Speaker 1>and fly.

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<v Speaker 4>At times I've gone in and there's been I've been like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very stress and I'm not sleeping that well, had

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<v Speaker 4>some acupuncture. I actually do feel better. Yeah, migraine's good

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<v Speaker 4>for migraines.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to try it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what you can do to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the Pokoda tree.

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<v Speaker 2>You love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Take this challenge up for a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, I'm riddled with anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Good right now, I love some Look did you bring

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<v Speaker 2>your needles with you?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually? Sorry, we should have done.

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<v Speaker 2>This live done like that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so many different forms of birth control, and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>I have now at thirty, decided.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put any more hormones in.

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<v Speaker 4>My body, and I have decided to use the Daisy,

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<v Speaker 4>which I feel like a lot of people wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know about because I had no idea what the Daisy was.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe do you want to explain the type of

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<v Speaker 4>birth control that I am now using? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, So Daisy is a device almost like a tiny

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<v Speaker 5>computer that you take your basil body temperature every morning

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<v Speaker 5>and it records it. And we've been using basil body

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<v Speaker 5>temperature to record cycles for ever, for moons, so that

0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.520
<v Speaker 5>part of it's not revolutionary, But the fact is that

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<v Speaker 5>Daisy learns your cycle and over around three months, it's

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<v Speaker 5>able to become more and more accurate in pinpointing your

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<v Speaker 5>fertile and nonfertile days. So it's pretty cool. It's been

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<v Speaker 5>around for around forty years. This technology and the rhythm

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<v Speaker 5>that it used is based on over five million women's cycles,

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<v Speaker 5>so you're getting very accurate data to the point where

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<v Speaker 5>now it's around ninety nine point four percent accurate at

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<v Speaker 5>pinpointing your non fertile days.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 5>So the device itself, you literally it kind of looks

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<v Speaker 5>like a thermometer on one end, and it's got a

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<v Speaker 5>little tiny computer on the other end, and you just

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<v Speaker 5>every morning, Yeah, you just press the button, put it

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<v Speaker 5>under your tongue and it beats when you finish, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's it. That's all you have to do. And then

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<v Speaker 5>you can sink, well you would want to probably at

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<v Speaker 5>some point over the circle, sink it to the app

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<v Speaker 5>so you can see the data on an interface.

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<v Speaker 4>And it says like fertile, not fertile, or like still

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<v Speaker 4>working you out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's like a like a flow app sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, but it grows off your temperature.

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<v Speaker 5>So great, great question. So yes, any app that you're

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<v Speaker 5>using that you're not putting in data as your basil

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<v Speaker 5>body temperature is only guessing your ovulation based on the

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<v Speaker 5>last month. This is actually able to predict and confirm correct.

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<v Speaker 5>So the temperature is the key. And there's other devices

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<v Speaker 5>out there that use these methods.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>The difference with Daisies, it's been around for forty years.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the og. It's the og of this. I've I

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<v Speaker 5>used to work with the brand years ago, and even

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<v Speaker 5>then I was like it was streets ahead of the rest.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing I do want to say is we can't

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<v Speaker 5>call it contraception because it's not a device, so like

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<v Speaker 5>a marina is an actual fitted device, it's not a

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<v Speaker 5>barrier method, so a condom is a protection contraception. But

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<v Speaker 5>this is actually helping you to practice what we call

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<v Speaker 5>fertility awareness, knowing when you're firtile, knowing when you're not,

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<v Speaker 5>and doing whatever the hell you want to do with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know what I mean. And then it's making

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<v Speaker 5>decisions based on that, so you know, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a game changer for a lot of women. Some women

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<v Speaker 5>can't be on birth control for whatever reason that doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>agree with them. Some women want to come off but

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<v Speaker 5>don't trust themselves. And also, if you've been on birth

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<v Speaker 5>control for ten fifteen years and you come up off,

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<v Speaker 5>you are not going to have a clue what's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>So to have something that confirms that you can feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>well I'm actively watching what's happening here and learning is

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of a backup plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's interesting, right, because I feel like growing up,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom has drummed into me, do not have sex

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<v Speaker 4>without using protection you will get pregnant. And after talking

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<v Speaker 4>to that, I realize that that's actually a full blown lie.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're all taught that. We're all taught that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just not the truth. Like only fertile for

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<v Speaker 4>like twelve hours or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, but then we would still if we wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be cautious, we would generally we pulled that over

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<v Speaker 5>three or four days, just to be kextra safe. Well, A,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't know at what moment of the day you ovulate.

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<v Speaker 5>B Sperm can last for up to five days, so

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<v Speaker 5>we want to have we want to be and date.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the thing I love about Daisy. It's extremely conservative.

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<v Speaker 5>It won't tell you your non fertile if you're not

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<v Speaker 5>out of that window, which is nice. Also, you'll be

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<v Speaker 5>able to line it up with your own body clues.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you ovulate, it's the day you look in

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<v Speaker 5>the mirror and you're like, uh oh, really good to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard this right you hotter?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you do right? Can I tell you you probably?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. But also just to the point of your mum,

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<v Speaker 5>your body is trying to set you up for pregnancy

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<v Speaker 5>every day of your circle. It doesn't mean you're fertile

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<v Speaker 5>every day of your cycle. It's trying to put you

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<v Speaker 5>in an optimum position for pregnancy to occur, and it

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<v Speaker 5>should conception not happen. That is that egg that's released

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<v Speaker 5>in ovulation and sperm not meat up. Then the circle

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<v Speaker 5>repeats itself again and it gets ready for the next month.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, mum wasn't completely wrong in that sense.

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<v Speaker 5>She's wrong in the sense that you have sexful pregnant

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<v Speaker 5>every time. But we've got to understand that, yes, there

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<v Speaker 5>are certain peaks and troughins in the circle, but ovulation

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<v Speaker 5>you generally feel good. Your body wants you to go

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<v Speaker 5>out and meets I want to make a baby. It

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<v Speaker 5>makes you lak fabulous I heard.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard so many interesting things, like I heard that

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<v Speaker 4>when you're ovulating, your face looks more symmetrical men, And

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<v Speaker 4>then I've also heard that you want to dress and

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<v Speaker 4>sexier clothes and.

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<v Speaker 5>Your voice is higher pitched because for some reason that's attractive.

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<v Speaker 5>Sounds like a chipmunk and we attracted. Isn't that hilarious though?

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<v Speaker 5>When you're ovulating, Oh yeah, you're like basically a whole

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<v Speaker 5>vibe when you're ovulating, and then they would come down

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<v Speaker 5>the other side and then you're like wanting to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get me pregnant again. Oh God, how funny.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's all this stuff we were never really taught,

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<v Speaker 5>or if we were, we never connected the dots. I

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<v Speaker 5>think we were taught. Ovulation has to happen for conception

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<v Speaker 5>at least there has to be an egg and a

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<v Speaker 5>sperm have to meat, but the process of that only

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<v Speaker 5>happening once a month. We weren't taught that. I wasn't anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing I do want to say, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's really important. A couple of things I want

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<v Speaker 5>to say to that is that barrier methods the only

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<v Speaker 5>way to protect we protect ourselves against sti's And if

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<v Speaker 5>you're on birth control, chances are unless you're using a condom,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not protecting yourself. And I think that's really important,

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<v Speaker 5>especially for I say, my you know, the younger generation,

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<v Speaker 5>my daughter's generation. I'm like, you guys need to realize this.

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<v Speaker 3>We always promote safe sex. There's enough of it in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>About enough sex, or.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean like promoting safe sex, like like I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I spoken to a couple of like American girls, and

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<v Speaker 3>over there it's pretty big that they're hounded that they

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<v Speaker 3>need to wear condoms all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't feel like here it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone's a bit more like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're too relaxed, relaxed about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, really relax it's almost like cool to not wear

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<v Speaker 4>a condoms because it's like, I don't want to wear

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<v Speaker 4>a condoms.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially if you're having sex with multiple partners. Like I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's really important for young this next generation to

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<v Speaker 5>realize that just being on the pill doesn't actually help

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<v Speaker 5>you there at all. And I'm at the point where

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<v Speaker 5>I also treat a lot of women for fertility reasons,

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<v Speaker 5>and STIs can be a big factor for fertility as

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<v Speaker 5>to why women aren't falling pregnant, and sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's undiagnosed for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what type of STDs would have?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Safe, change it to SDI. But STDs is what I

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<v Speaker 5>grew up.

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<v Speaker 4>What type of STIs hinder women's fertility?

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<v Speaker 5>That I'll never forget the one time I sat in

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<v Speaker 5>on surgery a laproscopy with a surgeon and it was

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<v Speaker 5>for they were doing a laproscopy for fertility purposes. This

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<v Speaker 5>woman wasn't falling pregnant. So the only way we can

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<v Speaker 5>really know sometimes what is actually happening is with a laproscopy,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't. Sometimes you can't detect endometriosis or other issues

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<v Speaker 5>virus scan. In fact, most times you can't. I'd say

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<v Speaker 5>every time, you can't always, And so it was for

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<v Speaker 5>fertility purposes. This one was trying to feel pregnant and

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 5>she wasn't having any success. And that's I remember sitting

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<v Speaker 5>there and he's gone and he's like, oh, she's full

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<v Speaker 5>of chlamydia. Close her up, like that's it done, and

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<v Speaker 5>so he could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it, you can see what does it

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<v Speaker 1>look like.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I'm a surgeon, how I'm picturing gremons.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say it would look it would look pretty infected.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say it would look pretty bad. And also,

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't know this about you, I teach women

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<v Speaker 5>how to read their signs. So this is gross, but

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<v Speaker 5>women have discharge and it changes, and if you're not

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 5>used to seeing that, and the pill will absolutely suppress that,

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<v Speaker 5>then you don't even have these clues yourself. You don't

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 5>know how to read them. Whereas I have been through

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 5>personally changes with my cervix where I've had to monitor

0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 5>that and you know that's because of abnormal patsmes and

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<v Speaker 5>whatever else. And truly you can see when something's not healthy,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can see when something is and it's either

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 5>that it's a funny color, or it smells, or it

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 5>just isn't right. So if that's you, and don't be

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 5>afraid of that. It's important. Your body is serving you

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 5>signs that you need to go and then get answers

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 5>to And a lot of these things are treatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Well chlamydia is just the two pills, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But I think the problem is when it's left

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.640
<v Speaker 5>over a long period of time, it becomes really tricky

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 5>to treat and has other implications as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So didn't you think you had chlamydia and you were like,

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<v Speaker 4>just give me the medication.

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I had a girl message me and say, hey, I've

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 3>got chamydia.

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Get yourself checked.

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 3>And I was like all right. So I went to

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 3>the doctors and he's like, well we need to test.

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 2>You're like day.

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<v Speaker 3>Mother was like, just give me the just told me this,

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 3>but he's like, no, we insist you do the test

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So did the test. I actually never had an STI right,

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not.

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>So he took the meds and not.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I did the test before I took the med

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 3>so I didn't. They came back and he told me

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 3>we didn't have anything. But I was like, well, I've

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 3>already taken the meds.

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah.

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like this girl message you saying that, don't

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 2>waste your time like the test. But I did it.

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 2>So I went and did it. And then yeah, but

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I've never had one.

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 5>You were negative.

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:20.919
<v Speaker 2>I was negative. Good job positive mind though, yeah.

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Saying positive, keeping the test, but yeah, I've never had

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 3>one in my illustrious career.

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's keep it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to ask you a question in regards to

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 4>the daisy because I found this interesting. So you told

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 4>me that if the daisy comes up that I'm not

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 4>fertile at the moment, that I can still technically have

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 4>sex and it can be unprotected.

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<v Speaker 5>You can be unprotected, and and you won't for pregnant.

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 4>And I won't fall pregnant with a complete finish involved

0:23:58.440 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 4>with ejaculation.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to. I think she's waiting for me.

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:04.719
<v Speaker 5>It is like charades.

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Comes inside me. But I mean, here we are.

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 5>We were talking about periods discharge. Now we're at sperm and.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>The generation ejaculation.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely once Daisy has learnt you. Yes. The nice thing

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 5>about Daisy is that she will give you non fertile indication,

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 5>fertile indication, and unsure, and if she's unsure, you should

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 5>be unsure as well. That's where you would use a

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 5>barrier method, especially as she's learning you. So she'll give

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 5>you a red light for when you.

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Are fertile, like, don't do it, it's red.

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 5>Unless you are obviously, we also women use it to

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 5>for pregnant. Yeah, and Daisy can also tell you if

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 5>you're pregnant. That's something else that just to put on

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 5>the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So if the three lights come on,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>then I'll know I'm pregnant. I will have a heart attack.

0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 5>But that's never happened to me, so so yeah, you

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 5>can when you're When you're green, then you are absolutely

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 5>out of the woods and you will not be in

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 5>a position.

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Green means thank you, Matt.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's smart.

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>To reassure everyone can.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 5>Daisy will know if you're pregnant, which actually is amazing

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 5>for the environment because plastic pregnancy tests and landfill and

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 5>especially if you've been trying for a long time, you

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 5>will go through a lot of those. So I've gone

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 5>through a lot of pregnancy tests and I've always been

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 5>on like hormonal contraception, so I'm really unsure why I

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 5>have done them.

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Also, though it seems like you're just being a bit dramatic.

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 5>Drama, but the efficacy of birth control. Birth control fails

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 5>people all the time. Yeah, people feel pregnant whilst on

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 5>birth control. So you know you're not crazy. Yeah, it

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 5>does happen.

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 1>What was that trick you told me that the man

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just has to we.

0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 5>Before Oh, that's withdrawal method. Yes, so if you are

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 5>not if he's not ejaculating, and he's withdrawing the correct way,

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 5>the correct method of withdrawal, that makes it ninety four

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 5>percent effective. Is what I always learned when I did

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 5>all of my education, is that you have to make

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 5>sure that his peede. And if you were to have

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 5>sex more than once in a sitting sitting, I don't

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 5>you call that a session, then they need to pee again.

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>In between classifiers having sex.

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Then if he is ejaculated, he needs to pee before

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 5>he ejaculates again because they can still be live sperm,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, in they're ready to in the chamber.

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>It's funny that we're a little lingo we've got going.

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I just think a whole other topic is are recounting

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 3>it when he ejaculates and finishes.

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 5>Because it is because she's not at any risk of

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 5>making herself pregnant unless they're sperm.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 3>There having but sex finishes when he finishes.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 5>Argue with the messenger. But yes, and obviously again it

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 5>needs to be practiced with perfect use to be ninety

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 5>four percent effective. You know, people will say, oh, but

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 5>do you ejaculate them, like, yeah, well, hello, that could

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 5>definitely result in pregnancy, So there's a reliability on the

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 5>male to actually know that as well.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 4>How does being on hormonal contraception affect your gut health.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Any medication, not just the pill? But I would say

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.239
<v Speaker 5>the pill is one of the most common medications that

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 5>women use.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Would you say taking anything orally is going to like

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>if mess you up?

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately, that's what we know. We know that it impacts

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 5>the bacteria. We know that the pill specifically depletes vitamins

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 5>and minerals except for iron. It's the only thing it

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 5>doesn't deplete because you're not bleeding, so well, if you are,

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of controlled and a lot of women will

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 5>use it for heavy bleeding without looking at while they're

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 5>bleeding heavy, which is another conversation. So we know it

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 5>does that, and it really on on the overall. It

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 5>really does disrupt the integrity of the gut. So that

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 5>can be the gut wall, that can be the lining,

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 5>that can be the bacteria and other things that exist.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 5>It's just that's just the way it is, just what

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 5>it does.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 4>You about how I'm a little bit worried about my

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 4>gut health because I have been on for most antibiotics,

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 4>like especially in the past year. I reckon I have

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 4>just been doing like back to back antiotics, and I

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm just so off balance. If anyone else

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 4>is at home listening to this, also worried about their

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 4>gut health, what's some things that people can do to

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 4>really improve that.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 5>I love that question. I think we underestimate food when

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 5>it comes to we want the probot, it, give me

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 5>the tablet, give me more, give me more things. Is

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 5>there another thing that I can take for that?

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>What did I have the other day?

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have a sunburn and I was like, I

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 3>was like, my girlfriend, I will just take a tablet

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 3>that I'll get rid of it.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, there's no tablet that fixes. That's

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>my mentality.

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 5>I'll just like, you can take fish oil for some

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 5>burn you can increase your dose. I don't advocate for

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 5>you being some burnt, but but if you were to be,

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 5>you can use fish or for the inflammation. It works

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 5>really well.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I take three in the morning.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 5>Three I would have probably added an extra dose in

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 5>there just while you were burned. You might have need

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 5>some more visits to the bathroom. But so pre and

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:27.239
<v Speaker 5>probiotics really important. Probiotics. We see them, you buy them

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 5>over the counter. They helped to re establish the good

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 5>gut bacteria because after antibiotics, everything gets cleared out, and

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 5>that it's like chopping down all the trees in a

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 5>forest and then maybe just releasing some snakes and rabbits

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 5>and that's it, and that's all you've got colonizing that

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 5>that forest. What we you want to do is recolonize

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>everything that's in the forest, and that takes time. But

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 5>also it's not just the probiotic, it's the probiotics. It's

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 5>the foods that help the probotics to flourish that are

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 5>actually more important. Than the probiotic. So foods that are

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 5>rich in fiber are generally those that are the probiotics.

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 5>So I love patients to have high fiber yeah, in

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 5>their diet as a way of doing that. And then

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 5>obviously less processed inflammatory foods, so the sugar, the gluten,

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 5>and the dairy. A lot of people can't have those

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 5>in the first place, but if your gut's compromised, it's

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 5>not really in its best performance to actually assimilate those,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 5>So we might need less of those whilst we're recovering,

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 5>and then once we've recovered, we can introduce those foods.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Will we talking about high fiber stuff in hum? Was

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that on an episode?

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were. We were talking about having more fiber.

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 5>I have to say so I've always advocate for high fiber,

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 5>but actually in more recent times, I've been getting patients

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 5>to have their fiber at the beginning of their meal

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 5>and it's been an absolute game changer. It balances your

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 5>blood sugar, which for my patients helps to balance their hormones.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 5>It reduces inflammation. So it would mean starting your meal

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 5>with a small salad or eating your broccoli before your protein,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 5>or maybe a handful of almonds or a handful of popcorn.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like you know how you stretch before

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 5>a workout. It's like setting the gut up to digest.

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>So I like that I had an apple on the

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>way here.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Good job, well done, because I was feeling up the

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 4>car and I was like, Nat did tell me to

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 4>have an apple?

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And there was as I was waiting, it was just

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>staring me in the face, and I was like, I'm

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to buy that.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 2>You read something better than like two coffees for energy

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>or something.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Probably they have good coffee as well. We have to

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 5>have balance here, don't We.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't get up.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 3>We've taken our lists on a coffee.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.959
<v Speaker 4>We sometimes talk about coffee for like fifteen minutes when

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.479
<v Speaker 4>we've like not had our coffee early enough in the morning.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not okay.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 4>We're actually both like really raining it in this year

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 4>because we were doing back to bad coff That's why.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>We've got this small regular and they gave me a

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 3>small and.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Like to take the small anything.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 5>I tell you, if you were to have an apple,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 5>a handful of almonds, an apple and the coffee, your

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 5>blood sugar wouldn't spik if if you just had either

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 5>the coffee or just the apple. The will make the difference.

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 5>So a bit of a combination. Also, you don't probably

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 5>want the coffee on an empty stomach. You probably want

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 5>to my This is.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Some information that I've always taken with me. My year

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 3>ten drama teacher, she said she was like finishing her

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>lunch because we come back from lunch and she was

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>eating an apple, and she was like, an apple cleanses

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>the pellet. It works better than the palette, palette your mouth.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>So I always eat an apple.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Last. There you go, cleans your mouth.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 5>Out, beautiful. And he doesn't have to carry a toothbrush.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I still carry a toothbrush. I'm really, I'm really.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Mouth Look, I'm just going to dumb myself in I

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 4>start my date with coffee. What's something that I can

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 4>do before that to kind of make what can I eat?

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess? Or can I drink water?

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 5>You could? You could start with some fiber, like even

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 5>just carrot, a handful of almonds, some raspberries. It doesn't

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 5>have to be a lot. It doesn't have to be

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 5>a lot at all, but it's probably going to spike

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 5>your court. Well, it's going to spark your boy. Sugar

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 5>and it's going to spik your quartersole depending on how

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 5>you have your coffee, unless it's black. If it's black

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 5>and nothing else in it is different. But even then

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 5>it's it's better, especially if we're talking about hormones that

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 5>you have something with it.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, I start my morning with my vitamins, so I

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>have my fish.

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Oil that make you feel nauseous. Really, for like ten years,

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 5>I can't have vitamins on an empty stomach.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Really, I do it like thirty minutes because I've got

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>some stuff that apparently meant to start your metabolism. Good

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 3>vinegar and the one that starts with G glu.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't pronounce it.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 5>It's either glue to thion or glue to mine.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>It's something like that. It's meant to start your metabolism.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's in there. Then there was something that I

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>got for male tobido that's in.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 5>There, Horny goat we.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Four seasons. Then I've got my PCT. I just got

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>everything in there. I just take it and showing off.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm proud of you. You can have it on

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 5>an empty stomach, because I sure as heck can't.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, I try to have my smoothie, right, within half

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 3>an hour or I would have faced the day with it.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well what's your top three vitamins that people should

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 4>be taking?

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 5>Man, that's a good question. Like I said, you can't

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 5>outsupplement a bad diet. So starting with nutrition for me

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 5>is far more important than the vitamins that you can take.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 5>To me, they're the icing on the cake. So if

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 5>you don't have a known issue and you're on birth control,

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 5>I would definitely be saying a multi vitem, multi mineral

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 5>FISI or probiotic if you're not, and then I would

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 5>still probably say, let me think about this. Vitamin D

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 5>are probiotic, and magnesium. Magnesium, magnesium, v vitamins and zinc

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 5>are all together generally in formulas. Magnesium's hands down the

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 5>one thing we can't get enough of through food because

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 5>of a couple of reasons. We've sterilized our soils, so

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 5>we're not getting it in the actual food itself or

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 5>enough in the food itself. But secondly, we're all living

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 5>very far paced, highly stressed lives, and higher stress requires

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 5>more magnesium, so we're depleted, and then we depleted more.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 5>So yes, I would say magnesium is a game change.

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I take made by itself and magnesium with the B three.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 3>But then I also take zinc by itself in the morning.

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 4>End.

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 5>But you you're like a walking farmer.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say, you really are. That's

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>how your cash money is going mad?

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 5>F Do you feel good generally? Though?

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's so funny.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Girl I was dating a couple of years ago, went

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>to her family Christmas and her I was like, I'm

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>just fucking.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Tired all the time.

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm so tired, and she said, oh, my

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 3>husband was, and then he got on like this plan,

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 3>this plan of like vitamins, and it made him feel better.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 2>And ever since then, I've just done it.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 5>And do you feel better than men?

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you feel down, but for a better part, I

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>feel good. Yeah.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Good.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 2>So it's a tip.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Like all my girlfriends I have had over the years.

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 3>They always laugh because I always sit there on a

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Sunday like tipping them out. My roomies would walk in

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 3>and that seeming like divving them out, and I got

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 3>them onto it as well, get them onto a plan

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>of it all.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely. I think that there's so much merit to it,

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 5>and I think that the more we can actually work

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 5>out actually what's actually happening for us and making it detailed.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Magnesium.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I used to have magnesium baths as well, in magnesium salt.

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 5>Do you write that, Yes, absolutely, it's great for recovery.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>My dad just get them through work like samples are

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>like so the.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 4>Perfect Okay, Well, look, let's talk all things in fertility next.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 5>You're just.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of this?

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, this is not a this is not a one

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on one appointment.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Math al right, Like I said earlier, I've been what

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 3>would you say, diagnosed or told that I am infertile.

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 3>So I'm shooting blanks.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 5>How long ago was that diagnosis?

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh twenty twenty okay.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 5>And you had your sperm tested.

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Because well I had understanded testicles when I was born,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 3>and then they told my parents around the age I

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>was twenty five that I should get a tested. Right then,

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to actually clear the air on this. My

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend at the time said, my ejaculation is the same

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 3>consistency as a guy she used to sleep with who

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 3>had the phasectomy.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>There is no correlation to that at all.

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 3>My doctor told me that, but it did something that

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, we're going I told my mum and.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>She said at this age, they said to get tested,

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>so I did, and then.

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 5>You knew about the underscended testing, Yes, I knew.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 3>So that's when I told my mum and she said

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 3>about this age they said to do that. That doctor

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 3>clarified that there's no connection through that. So it's just

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 3>one of those things that happened to be set and

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 3>then was brought me to this this outcome.

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 5>So I mean it's interesting because a lot of men

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 5>won't know that they potentially don't have live sperm until

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 5>they try and ready to have children, or they've been

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 5>trying for a year or more. And so I'm in

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 5>a different you are in a very different and unique position.

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 5>There's always a reason someone doesn't have sperm in the

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 5>ejaculation and so, and it's not usually where you'll start.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 5>So I have to often prompt patients to say, could

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 5>you see if there's a var seal or there's some

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 5>type of blockage or something. It's not the first place

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 5>that they look, which blows my mind because it makes

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 5>sense to look there.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, How would you be able to tell that there

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is a blockage.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 5>They would have they could do an ultrasound, They might

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 5>have to actually have a look and see.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I've had a couple of ultrasounds on my balls over

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 3>the years, right, Like I remember one time a girl

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>was feeling it. She said that lump doesn't feel good.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 5>Right, and there was nothing wrong, and they descend this

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 5>is like personal, but they descending.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I had the surgery when I was a year old.

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, well, I mean there's a couple of things

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 5>that they haven't tried to do a biopsy to see

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 5>if there's lives.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 3>So that's the surgery, right, Yes, So the doctor said,

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 3>either I do the surgery now I find out and

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 3>I live my life knowing, or I wait till I'm

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 3>actually trying with a girl.

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Then you're going to have.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 3>The best right chance of if to get the sperm

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 3>and put it into an egg for ivy death.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So he said, I recommend doing it then because and

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I want to go get it done, but I'm sort

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>of like, do I need to right now?

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And how much is it going to cost?

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be like six grand back here, imagine what

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>it is now.

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a chance that there

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:29.720
<v Speaker 5>is still sperm.

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a very high shoe. So this I got

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 3>sixty six percent chance, Yeah.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 5>Which is great. So I have my little boy has

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 5>a condition called cystic fibrosis. They also have an issue

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 5>where basically they're not ejaculating live sperm either, So I

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 5>will go down this path with him. So it's interesting

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 5>to have the conversation. But what I would still say

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 5>is you still want to do whatever you can to

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 5>support whatever might be there. Of course, and sperm is interesting.

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 5>Sperm regenerates every one hundred and twenty days, so what

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 5>you if you are ejaculating spom, what you ejaculate now

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 5>and what you ejaculated in one hundred and twenty days

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 5>can be vastly different based on your lifestyle. So there's

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 5>a lot you can do. And even though you're not

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 5>ejaculating it because there's a blockage, sure it's not actually

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 5>able to be ejaculated live, you can still improve what's there.

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 2>They said.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that could be wrong is when

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 3>they tied well, when they did all the tubes and surgery,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>that something why I'm.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Not linked up.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 3>They could be blockage, which we, like I said on

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 3>hum when we spoke about it, would be that would

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 3>be not a bad outcome, but it would like f

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 3>lift my life with a sack to me, then we're

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 3>going to get a reverse.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 5>One, right. I think you should always live your life

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 5>with the intention of if you want to have children,

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 5>you want to do everything you can to make sure

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 5>you're in the best possible position, not assume that you can. Sorry,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 5>not assume that you can't, and do everything that you

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 5>can to help support that.

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 3>I've sort of gone down the route that I can't, yeah,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>right with in my relationships and that sort of stuff.

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>And how well you can't get someone pregnant right now

0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 5>like that, which is right, but you would there's obviously,

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 5>like you said, there's every chance through IVF that you

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 5>can unless they find even if they do find that

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 5>something's not connected as such, that it's probably still going

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 5>to be safer to leave it as it is and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, be able to extract that sperm and then

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 5>use when you're ready. So you kind of, whilst it's

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 5>a bummer, at the same time, you're kind of lucky

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 5>because you know, as it stands, you're not getting anyone pregnant,

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 5>and you probably can down the track. But this is

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 5>a conversation I'll have to have with my son as well.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 5>We will have to do the same thing. He's eleven,

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 5>he's definitely not at that point. He'll be wrapped when

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 5>he finds out. Really, mum, but you should. There's so

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 5>much you can do. And like I said, to the

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 5>point of improving sperm over one hundred and twenty.

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Days tips for that, anyone listing that.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, So this is really important, I think because

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.439
<v Speaker 5>a lot of men will be told that where their

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 5>sperms at today, they're a candidate for IVF at this point.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 5>Now that's not necessarily wrong, but I need to put

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 5>it on the record. Medicine meets you where you're at.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't actually go, oh, we've got a drug to

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 5>make this better because it doesn't exist. So therefore you

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 5>may not get that advice from your specialists because that's

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 5>not their job to do that. So we want to

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 5>look at what else we can do to improve that.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 5>And like I said, that's not taking a drug because

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 5>no drug exists for that. That's taking vitamins and minerals

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 5>and leading a lifestyle that's supportive of that. We know

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 5>that sitting down for long periods of time can really

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 5>almost cook the sperm, so that's not ideal. Cyclists often

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 5>have issues and horse riders have issues because you can

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 5>kind of work that out.

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 2>They're kind of you know with that cooked thing.

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I haven't watched a TikTok and I don't even I

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 3>don't wear jocks or anything to better anymore.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let them free. Let them.

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 4>Also, high stress really.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Really disrupts anyone's hormones, but you know, equally men and women.

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 5>So in terms of supplements that are safe to just

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 5>recommend to anybody, anything with high level of antioxidants zinc, yeah,

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 5>vitamin A and yeah, they're the they're the main, they're

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 5>the main ones that I would be recommend that are

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 5>pretty safe for anymore. And coq ten co qzyme is

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 5>really grateful. It helps with cellular function, but it's really

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 5>it's been proven to help with both sperm and egg quality.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Because I can I'm trying to write them down, but

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't spell them.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about like lifestyle as in like alcohol

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 4>or like going out on the weekends. What can that

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 4>do in regards to that with a lifestyle change.

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 5>So what I can say is binge drinking is worse

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 5>than moderate drinking. So even if you were to, like,

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 5>you know, binge drink once a month is worse than

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 5>going out on a Friday and Saturday night and having

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 5>three or four drinks and just calling it a day.

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 5>At that point, men can get away with more than

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 5>women can. For women, it messes their estrogen. Alcohol mimics estrogen,

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 5>so for men it does the same. You don't need

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 5>a whole lot of estrogen, so having that in your

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 5>system isn't ideal either. But smoking and drinking would have

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 5>to be the two things that unfortunately definitely impact fertility alongside.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 5>But let's also be logical here and sort of say,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 5>all right, well, I do a lot of things to

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 5>support my body, and how much can I get away with?

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 5>And you also know how you feel after that too,

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 5>So I think being able to check in with yourself

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 5>and be able to say, oh, I feel recovered really

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 5>quickly is very different too. I feel sick four days later,

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 5>so just checking in with that is really I think

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 5>the other thing to look at.

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how you feel.

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Every week, and I'm not doing this again.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think it's it's hard because it is one

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 5>of the things that's really difficult to pull up on.

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 5>And the more alcohol we drink, the more alcohol we need,

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 5>so It's one of those things that has to be conscious,

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 5>and I don't have good answers for that. It's not

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>my area.

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Exercise, anything you can do just general health, I guess

0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 3>can help.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 5>With for fertility. For fertility, oh yeah, absolutely, being active

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 5>is really important. So you know, the research is definitely

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 5>telling us that we need fat and protein more than anything.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 5>Our hormones are made of fat and protein, So if

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 5>we're not actually eating enough, then we're not going to

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 5>go on to make our hormones. As we get older,

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 5>we need more of those. So in our twenties and

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 5>thirties is different to forties and thirties and forties. We

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 5>definitely need more fat and protein as we get older

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 5>to be more fertile.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Would you say that anything in my last style over

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years would have affected my fertility.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 3>It might not have been the unsentded testicles. Even you're

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 3>saying that, do you think that, like when I was

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 3>modeling that, like having a crash diet would have done

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>anything to it?

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 5>Potentially, everyone's different. Men are different to women. I would

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 5>say it's probably worse for women than it is for men.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Not to dismiss that.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you said that I thought like, i'd like

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 3>would hardly eat and like crash doll right to the point.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 5>Of course, because it sends a body into a state

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 5>of stress and then it does what it can to

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 5>survive under the surfircumstances. If you're doing that frequently enough,

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 5>for ye, it can absolutely impact that. I mean the

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 5>other thing too, is I would say, just to be

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 5>truly sure, I would probably do a scene an analysis

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 5>somewhere along the line. Although if you actually are having

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.240
<v Speaker 5>unprotected sex, done another one with a healthy laster.

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh no, not with health because it's interesting hearing

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 4>that say that it's one hundred and twenty day cycle.

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I never heard that.

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 5>Now, Well, you are creating every hour, but you're creating

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 5>and based on what you're at where you're at right now.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 5>So if you were to be diligent, so I say

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 5>to patients, all right, I need at least six weeks

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 5>of you to be diligent with what I'm advising, and

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 5>then we should retest. I've had patients pregnant, I've had

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 5>zero viable sperm zero if pregnant within two months. Now,

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 5>that's not something that I would say happens all the time.

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 5>But we have seen it happen, so you know, it depends.

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 5>I haven't seen your analysis, so I don't know whether

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 5>there's some things that I could look at and say

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:04.320
<v Speaker 5>completely no or completely yes. But I think there's definitely

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 5>merit to that regardless though, even if you're needing to

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 5>do a biopsy to get sperm, you still want to

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 5>make them as good as possible.

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Of course, if I was going to get that surgery,

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I would make like you said, one hundred and twenty days.

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no drinking, just clean.

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if you did that, that would have a massive

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 5>impact on your stem health.

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I would definitely do something like that.

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 4>That's so interesting, and it's really interesting because I don't

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 4>know if you guys have seen it, but there's that

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 4>show on at the moment, and it's.

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Like a big miracles.

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 4>I think it's called, yeah, the Infertility Show, And like

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I think they were saying like one in five people

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 4>have infertility issues, which is crazy because it's just not

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 4>spoken about it at all.

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:46.879
<v Speaker 5>I know there's not enough awareness. We spend our whole

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 5>life trying not to fall pregnant, only to find it's

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 5>not as easy as we thought it was going to be.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 5>When it's time to feel pregnant exactly. And that's that's

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, you can't learn that until you're actually in it.

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 5>I remember saying to my husband, I don't know if

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 5>I can fall pregnant. I've never been pregnant, so I

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.240
<v Speaker 5>don't know. And the next month we were pregnant. Feels

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 5>like I thought you didn't know. I'm like, I didn't know. Sorry,

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 5>now don't touch me.

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting because I feel like we always talk

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 4>about how like women have a biological clock and like,

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, men have all of this time up up

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 4>their sleeve. But I mean, recently, I've found out that

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 4>men at the age of twenty four to thirty four,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 4>like at thirty four you're half as fertile.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Which is crazy because no one, no one talks about it.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 5>But the other thing that speeds up aging and then

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 5>therefore takes us closer to being less fertile is stress. Yeah,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 5>and we all live with more than it than ever before.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 5>And our hormone our ovaries as women, and I mean

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 5>the men's men's declines a bit slower, a lot slower,

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 5>but your overyfunction starts to decline from thirty five or

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 5>in our early thirties. It doesn't mean you're not fertile.

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.040
<v Speaker 5>And I can see patients that are more fertile in

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 5>their thirties and they were in their twenties purely because

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 5>of their lifestyle. So it's not a definitive scenario. Yes,

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 5>you might have less eggs in the tank, but it

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean that those eggs aren't viable. And what are

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 5>you doing to make them as good as possible because

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 5>we can improve that.

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 4>When I saw the gynecologist, he said to me, because

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 4>you're thirty, you really need to start looking at egg freezing.

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a really common offering at the moment. There's

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 5>a lot of women that are freezing their eggs, and

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 5>I think, again, I wouldn't go into that blindly. If

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 5>you look at some of the women that are being

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 5>vocal about this, they're like, this was so not as

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 5>easy as I thought it was going to be. I

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 5>think it's a nice insurance policy if you are absolutely

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 5>not in a position to have children, or you are

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.479
<v Speaker 5>mid thirty. I mean they're going to say the younger

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:50.720
<v Speaker 5>you are to freeze your eggs are better. Their quality

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 5>is going to be There's no one that can make

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 5>this decision other than you. I think what I don't

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 5>love is the fear that's put in women that if

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.320
<v Speaker 5>they don't do this now, they're not going to have chillildren.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.280
<v Speaker 5>And we help women have children into their late forties.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So I've faced that recently as well with my relationship

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 3>that I am my partner.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 2>She's thirty nearly thirty one, and.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I've had not the fear, but like the concern for

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 3>her because of where I'm at my age and all

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:18.320
<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the thing is that we still discount

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 5>looking after ourselves. We bypass that partner. God, it's fine,

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I can party my life away and just go and

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 5>free some eggs. The quality of what you freeze if

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 5>you're not diligently looking after yourself in the lead up

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.879
<v Speaker 5>to that and then during is going to be sub

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 5>average anyway. So it really is. And the difference is

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 5>also when you make the decision to have children, you

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.399
<v Speaker 5>are going to look after it. Well. Most people are

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 5>going to look after themselves at that point, not just

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 5>a month before I decide to do an egg collection

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 5>and freeze them. So you know, there's lots of variables.

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 5>I say to patients, you know, if you're not in

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 5>a position to have children and you are really stressed

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 5>out about this, or you actually are in a position position,

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:03.240
<v Speaker 5>but you're not ready yet. And there's plenty of people

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 5>in this scenario and there, you know, in their mid

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 5>to late thirties. Yeah, better to be safe than sorry,

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 5>But nothing's ever going to be better than your own

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 5>your own natural conception. Yeah, and you're using assisted conception.

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 5>Should that not work?

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah?

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Could Matt potentially not to talk on your behalf.

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 4>But I'm just wondering if he got the surgery and

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 4>they did find sperm in his testicles.

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Would he then be able to freeze that sperm?

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that would be the idea of what they

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 3>would do. That would then freeze that because or because

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I'd never can unless they found a blockage. Then I

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 3>think then they would unblock it.

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well that's what I'm wondering. They may they.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 3>May or may they may do that, But if they

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 3>if there's no blockage and they're just not swimmers, then

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 3>they will take the sperm and freeze it, and then

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I would have to have Ivy have to have a kid.

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, isn't that something you can think about? Just

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 4>for the peace of mind.

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>But like I've said, I don't really I'm not in

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 3>any position to be trying at the moment.

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 4>Or no, not not saying that you would like use

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 4>it soon, but just like I.

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Suppose yeah, But then like you said, then you come back,

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>you circle back to like if they do find it,

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 3>they want the egg there to put it in like

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:18.439
<v Speaker 3>straight away.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:19.839
<v Speaker 2>So I have the best chance.

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Of But can't you just freeze it by.

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can freeze it, but the best chance would

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 3>be having the egg there and then to put it.

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Into your fad.

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Basically, what you're weighing up is if I did that,

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 5>is it a waste of.

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Money, money, time, effort to.

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 5>When I'm ready to when I'm ready?

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 2>So like so it's yeah, like it's one of these

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 2>things where I say, what fuck do you? Wait?

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Then you've got to be very open with your partner

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 3>about it and you say, well, this is what this is.

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 5>My part is that yeah, you are going to get urgency.

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 5>But also I want to say, when you're at this

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 5>point in time where you are freezing eggs or you're

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 5>going to your doctor for this, you know this is

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 5>all they see all the time. So if I was

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 5>to based my awareness on what I see, I'm going

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 5>to have a skew opinion about birth controls. I don't

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 5>see people coming into the clinic going I'm fantastic with

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 5>my Marina, how are you today? Like, that's not what

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 5>I see. So I see people that aren't happy. And

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 5>so if you're going into your clinic because you're worried,

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 5>that's you're not the only person in there that day.

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 5>So things get sort of skewed as to whatever environment

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 5>that you're in. And I just think it's important for

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 5>women and men to have all of the information to

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 5>go and make an informed choice. Speak to other people,

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.320
<v Speaker 5>speak to people that have done it. You know, again,

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:32.760
<v Speaker 5>your egg quality might actually be better when you're forty

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 5>than when you were thirty two because you were not

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<v Speaker 5>looking after yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And on that skewed thing as well, it's probably best

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<v Speaker 3>to get multiple opinions because you're like seeing one person

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<v Speaker 3>they might have one pinion to like the next person, you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely And the other thing that I see happen is

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 5>it becomes this hoarding game where women tend to get

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<v Speaker 5>you know, oh, we got five viable eggs, We're going

0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.399
<v Speaker 5>to put them on you know, freeze, Let's go again,

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 5>Let's get your more, Let's go again. It's like, where

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 5>do you draw the line. I've had patients have to

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<v Speaker 5>say that's enough, I'm done, I don't need anymore. So

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, there's no I can't I can't speak

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<v Speaker 5>for the majority. I just think it's important that we

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 5>get ourselves in a position and we have as much

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.160
<v Speaker 5>information as possible, speak to people about it, and put

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 5>yourself in the best position to get the best outcome.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was watching the show on fertility, what was

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 4>it Small Miracles, the way that IVF was kind of

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 4>positioned on the show, it kind of felt like, if

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 4>you're doing IVF, the sperm quality, You're like they're picking

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:42.280
<v Speaker 4>the best sperm that they can see, so then therefore

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:46.240
<v Speaker 4>maybe you'll end up with like a healthier or better baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Depends.

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on if they're doing IVF or IXY. So

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 5>there's different processes for assisted conception. IVF is when they

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 5>kind of just put it all in the one and

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 5>let the sperm find the egg, WHEREASIXI is when they

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<v Speaker 5>will take the best quality sperm and put it with

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 5>the egg. So there's different ways depending on your sperm

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<v Speaker 5>quality depending on hope.

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<v Speaker 3>If I do have sperm, they pick the most healthiest one.

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<v Speaker 3>My genetics getting passed on. Yeah, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>did say when I put the episode out there, like

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<v Speaker 3>such a shame to waste those genetics.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of those messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's never met mad but now now she could.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, apparently we're going to have acupuncture, so you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, is there any pressure points to find that can

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<v Speaker 3>help generate sperm? Where it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely there's, but it would look at the person. It's

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 5>an individual approach, so it's not like, oh, yeah, this

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 5>is the sperm point. Having said that, there is a

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 5>point for the cervix, so there's you know, stranger things

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 5>have happened.

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I'd hate to know if it's in.

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:58.279
<v Speaker 5>Natural generally not in the local vicinity.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I'm coming through some acupuncture.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, let's not press my stairmical points because I don't

0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 4>want to get pregnant yet.

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pick away from that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just have one last question for you, because we

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 4>are running out of time, even though I feel like

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 4>we could talk to you like for forever. We've had

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 4>a couple of episodes where Matt's opened up about his infertility,

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.439
<v Speaker 4>and like the journey that he's been on, and there's

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.359
<v Speaker 4>been a lot of people who have reached out to

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 4>us who are struggling with infertility. So I guess my

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 4>question for you is just like, what would you say

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<v Speaker 4>to those people who maybe are kind of in the

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 4>trenches at the moment, are really struggling.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's so hard the time that you

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 5>decide to have a baby and then it doesn't go

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 5>to plan, and everybody else around you seems to be

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 5>falling pregnant announcing things. It is really difficult. I wouldn't

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.240
<v Speaker 5>wait to try and find answers, and I would actually

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 5>try and find answers. Often women and men are told

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.720
<v Speaker 5>that they're just infertile, and they're put in the category

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 5>of unknown infertility, which to me, there's no such thing

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 5>as unknown. It's just we haven't looked hard enough yet

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 5>to figure out why. There's always a reason why. There's

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.920
<v Speaker 5>many pieces of the puzzle, and you can't isolate your

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 5>reproductive organs. They work in conjunction with other things. So

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 5>if you have ciliac or hashimotos, or there's lots of

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 5>other things that exist outside that possibly need to be

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 5>looked at. And it's not necessarily where if you're in

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 5>a fertility clinic, that's not necessarily where they look because

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 5>it's not the way that they look at it. So

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 5>first and foremost, let's find out why. Let's not accept

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 5>unanswered infertility. That's not a diagnosis. And I mean, at

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 5>some point, you have to start to believe in your body.

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 5>This is and it's very difficult. When you've been met

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 5>time and time again with negative outcomes, you stop believing

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 5>in yourself. And it's literally the only thing that you

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 5>can believe in is that your body can do it.

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 5>So I have patients do something, whether they like it

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 5>or not, plant the seed that when they leave the

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 5>clinic they need to think, act and behaviors. If they're

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 5>already pregnant, we're very good at pushing away the very

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 5>thing we want to come in as a protective mechanism.

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what if you were pregnant today, if you

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 5>wanted to be what if you were pregnant today, how

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 5>would you act if you left here? Yeah, it's a

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 5>very different energy. It feels already good, right and yes, okay,

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 5>sometimes we can be met with disappointment, but living according

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 5>to what you want to bring into your life. I

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 5>can tell you just through experience, you get higher outcomes

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 5>by doing that. So start to think, act and behave.

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 5>If you are wanting to be pregnant and you've been

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 5>met a lot of times with negativity or negative results,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 5>start to think act and behaviors. If you are, make

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 5>decisions as if you already are, be selfish. It's all

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 5>about you at this point in time.

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>The power of the brain, I know, is very crazy.

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It really is.

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:55.640
<v Speaker 5>It really is. And it's almost like, you know though,

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 5>there are people out there you and I know these

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.200
<v Speaker 5>people and they say they're going to do something like

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 5>my god, they're crazy, like as if, and they go

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 5>and do it because they believe they can. So, you know,

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 5>we we're living in a world where we're told about

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 5>everything we can't do, especially fertility. There's a lot of

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 5>negativity around fertility, and I think we need to change that.

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:15.919
<v Speaker 5>Our body knows what it's doing under the right circumstances.

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 5>It's up to us to create that environment that makes it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>This has been super interesting.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 5>Matt's loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's had a private session.

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<v Speaker 2>Over there, private session. Thank you on record.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you coming in