Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening, and I've got a big exclusive interview tonight
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump's newly appointed Director of counter Terrorism, Sebastian Gorka.
Speaker 2: Doesn't hold back on just how weak international leaders have been.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 4: Every nation in the world will have a decision to make.
Speaker 4: Do you stand with those who are taking the fight
Speaker 4: to the Jihades, to the terrorists, to the evildoers, or
Speaker 4: do you stand with those who are trying to destroy
Speaker 4: our civilization.
Speaker 2: That's Donald Trump's new senior director of counter Terror and
Speaker 2: that strong message for the likes of.
Speaker 3: Albanzi and Penny Wang.
Speaker 2: That big interview coming up also tonight, in her first
Speaker 2: interview since the Albanzi government refused her visa, former Israeli
Speaker 2: Minister Iolette Shaked will join me live on the She.
Speaker 3: Is fired up now.
Speaker 2: This has been a big story and that exclusive interview.
Speaker 3: With Ilett will be up shortly.
Speaker 2: Plus the debate over the social media band for kids.
Speaker 2: Some coalition figures are now saying they're going to.
Speaker 3: Cross the floor.
Speaker 2: And yet we've had a couple of sunny days in
Speaker 2: Sydney and we're already being warned about blackouts I'll speak
Speaker 2: about all of this with Bronwyn Bishop, Caleb Bond, Cameron
Speaker 2: Milner and Liz Burke. But first, the Prime Minister is
Speaker 2: facing worse and worse economic results by the day, but
Speaker 2: he refuses to acknowledge the gravity of this cost of
Speaker 2: living crisis gripping the nation. In Parliament today Albanezy pretended
Speaker 2: everything was rosy, Wages going up, he said, gender pay
Speaker 2: gap solved, inflation.
Speaker 3: Falling, no dramas well.
Speaker 2: Alban Ezy's head is in the Copa Cabana cliff top
Speaker 2: clouds and here's his reality check.
Speaker 3: The news today that.
Speaker 2: The Albanezy government is presiding over the longest household recession
Speaker 2: GDP per capita has been falling for the.
Speaker 3: Past six quarters.
Speaker 2: This is longer than any period over the past fifty years,
Speaker 2: according to The Australian. And the only reason when not
Speaker 2: in a nationwide full blown recession is because of the
Speaker 2: high immigration numbers that's propping up the budget, the Big
Speaker 2: Australia policy.
Speaker 3: But that's all.
Speaker 2: Irrelevant to the average family because at a household individual
Speaker 2: level we are in a recession and families are feeling it.
Speaker 2: Russ Greenwood spoke about this here last.
Speaker 5: Night guess what happened. The individual the household has been
Speaker 5: in recession for months and months and months now, and
Speaker 5: that's what consumers are feeling.
Speaker 1: That's what people are feeling.
Speaker 5: That's the reason why you've got restaurants going out of
Speaker 5: business around Australia right now, because people do not have
Speaker 5: the disposable income.
Speaker 2: And the actual figures show that business insolvencies have hit
Speaker 2: their highest level since the pandemic, a four year high,
Speaker 2: and as we spoke about last night, household disposable income
Speaker 2: is lower than even during Australia's past four recessions. Well,
Speaker 2: given all of this, it's kind of stunning to think
Speaker 2: that when Alban Easy became Prime Minister in May twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, the cost of living was his single biggest
Speaker 2: election promise.
Speaker 3: You couldn't have missed it.
Speaker 6: Labor has a plan for a better future, a plan
Speaker 6: not just for them but for their children as well,
Speaker 6: for families, taking the pressure off the cost of childcare,
Speaker 6: the cost of electricity, a plan to address cost of living,
Speaker 6: take pressure off cost of living, meaningful ongoing help with
Speaker 6: the cost of living for families.
Speaker 2: That was his promise, take the pressure off the cost
Speaker 2: of living, but to a half years on. This is
Speaker 2: the reality as articulated by the Coalition in question Time today.
Speaker 7: After two and a half years of this Albaneze labor government,
Speaker 7: Australians have seen their standard of living fall off a cliff,
Speaker 7: the biggest reduction since records began in the fifties. We've
Speaker 7: been in a household recession for a record six consecutive quarters.
Speaker 7: This is worse for households than Keaty's recession we had
Speaker 7: to have and the disastrous Whitlam government this week. Prime
Speaker 7: Minister is taking our country in the wrong direction. How
Speaker 7: can Australian families afford another three years of labor?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a brutal reality check and it was reflected
Speaker 2: as well in a question on Q and A last
Speaker 2: night that captured the sentiment of many Australians.
Speaker 8: My husband and I we're a grocery shop. I mean,
Speaker 8: the grocery shop is just staggering. And I don't know
Speaker 8: personally knowing a number of people who don't have a house.
Speaker 8: They're paying rent every week. And if you've got a
Speaker 8: couple of children, how do they pay rent? Pay all
Speaker 8: these heavy tolls, huge grocery bills, Education, I mean medical
Speaker 8: that the list just goes on and I think people
Speaker 8: are getting to the point where they've lost all hope
Speaker 8: in there being a better way of life than what
Speaker 8: they're experiencing now.
Speaker 2: Well grilled on these issues in Parliament today, alban Easy
Speaker 2: spoke of wage growth and yes, it's true wages have
Speaker 2: grown under Jim Chalmers, but the growth has sadly been
Speaker 2: more than eroded by taxes and the higher cost of
Speaker 2: goods and services thanks to inflation. But alban Easy, of
Speaker 2: course never mentions the government's tax intake that's only getting
Speaker 2: higher and higher, record tax thanks to bracket creep. And
Speaker 2: as you might have heard, Deloitte Access Economics said today
Speaker 2: that we're looking at the most severe deterioration in the
Speaker 2: budget bottom line ever recorded outside of the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 9: This is the most significant deterioration in the underlying cash
Speaker 9: balance that we've seen outside of the pandemics. What we
Speaker 9: need in Australia is better fiscal policy, better economic reform
Speaker 9: and tax reform to get the budget into a more
Speaker 9: sustainable position over the longer term.
Speaker 2: No we sit here, we're just weeks out from the
Speaker 2: end of the year. When alban Easy had thought that
Speaker 2: interest rates would be falling, and he would coast into
Speaker 2: the summer break, sipping his elbow pale ale on the
Speaker 2: balcony of his new Copa cabana clifftop mansion, and then
Speaker 2: roll into an easy election win, just like he thought
Speaker 2: he'd easily win the Voice, And when he didn't, he
Speaker 2: blamed misinformation and said about trying to foist on Australians
Speaker 2: new legislation that.
Speaker 3: Would shut down free speech.
Speaker 2: Well, trying to convince Australians that he's got this economic
Speaker 2: crisis covered and that he should be re elected, Well,
Speaker 2: that's going to be a harder sell than the Voice. Yes,
Speaker 2: because this is personal right now, Many Australian parents will
Speaker 2: be worrying about how they can afford to buy Christmas
Speaker 2: presents for their kids this year. But none of this
Speaker 2: seems to bother Alban Easy. It's like he doesn't know
Speaker 2: it's even happening. A Prime minister living a life of
Speaker 2: freebies and luxury while the nation he's meant to be
Speaker 2: leading suffers. I'm going to come back to that in
Speaker 2: a moment with Rodman Bishop and Caleb Bonda. They have
Speaker 2: a lot to say, but I want to turn now
Speaker 2: and tell you about an exclusive story. Now, the Israeli
Speaker 2: government is furious at Tony Burke's decision to refuse to
Speaker 2: issue a visa to a former Israeli minister, Iolette Shakhd.
Speaker 2: She has family here in Australia. She was here in
Speaker 2: March last year and there were no problems at all
Speaker 2: with giving her a visa then. But Iolette applied for
Speaker 2: a visa one again to visit her family and to
Speaker 2: speak at a security conference in Canberra. But her visa
Speaker 2: on Thursday night was rejected on character grounds. Now, this
Speaker 2: was a political decision, and I can tonight reveal that
Speaker 2: Tony Burke, as Home Affairs Minister, decided to review this decision.
Speaker 2: An Islet was informed in writing she was still on
Speaker 2: standby to fly to Australia for the conference on Friday,
Speaker 2: on Saturday, on Sunday on Monday, but she never heard
Speaker 2: from Tony Burke again.
Speaker 3: He ghosted her.
Speaker 2: Far from diplomatic. This is a woman who was a
Speaker 2: minister when if Talie Bennett was Israeli PM, and if
Speaker 2: Neftalie Bennett is elected the Prime Minister again, as he
Speaker 2: could very well be at some point in the years
Speaker 2: to come, well then IoLET could once again hold a
Speaker 2: senior position in the Israeli government. Yet Tony Burke and
Speaker 2: the lousy pro Palestinian Albanesi government have shown her extreme discourtesy.
Speaker 2: The Israeli government was very insulted by this highly political decision,
Speaker 2: the anger felt at senior levels. The Foreign Minister Gideon
Speaker 2: Sar is in disbelief over how a supposed ally could
Speaker 2: treat Israel like this, and Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Speaker 2: released this statement saying the Australian government's decision to deny
Speaker 2: a visa to former Israeli Minister Islet Shaked is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: The decision is deeply offensive and troubling and will have
Speaker 2: a negative impact on Israel Australia relations. Now, the reasons
Speaker 2: given by the Albanese government were that if Islet was
Speaker 2: allowed to enter Australia, there's a risk she would and
Speaker 2: I quote Villifi segment of the Australian community or incite
Speaker 2: discord in the Australian community.
Speaker 3: So because she's.
Speaker 2: Jewish and Israeli, she might incite discord meaning disagreement in
Speaker 2: the Australian community. That is offensive, it is racist, it
Speaker 2: is discrimination. Shame on Tony Burke and albin Ezi. To me,
Speaker 2: this sounds like the Albanzi government yet again caving into
Speaker 2: terror supporters, because who else would be upset by inn
Speaker 2: Israeli flying into our country. This is a capitulation to
Speaker 2: harmas clear and simple. It's because Burke, Albinizi, Wong and
Speaker 2: the rest of them make the devastating mistake of equating
Speaker 2: Israel with the terrorists it's trying to destroy. It's this
Speaker 2: type of weakness and moral confusion that Donald Trump as
Speaker 2: president wants to stamp out. And as I said, I
Speaker 2: have his new director of counter terrorism on my show
Speaker 2: tonight in a big exclusive interview, Sev Gorka describes this
Speaker 2: attitude as civilizational suicide.
Speaker 4: Yes, we need leadership, and the good news is when
Speaker 4: President Trump, my former boss, and god willing my future boss,
Speaker 4: gets behind that resolute desk, every nation in the world.
Speaker 1: Will have a decision to make.
Speaker 4: Do you stand with those who are taking the fight
Speaker 4: to the Jihades, to the terrorists, to the evildoers, or
Speaker 4: do you stand with those who are trying to destroy
Speaker 4: our civilization?
Speaker 1: It will be a stark choice.
Speaker 2: That interview is coming up, but never a true word
Speaker 2: was said and I will have Isilett Chaquet on the
Speaker 2: show a bit later that's Live after Australia's disgraceful decision,
Speaker 2: and Sebastian Gorka coming up shortly as well. But now
Speaker 2: let's bring in former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop
Speaker 2: and Sky New's host k A.
Speaker 3: Bond.
Speaker 2: Great to see you both, Runwin, I want to ask
Speaker 2: you about this news today that Australia is now in
Speaker 2: the longest household recession in fifty years.
Speaker 10: Why we're surprised and we've got a government that has
Speaker 10: completely and utterly rejected everything that people have learned in
Speaker 10: the years since we've had bad recessions. It's got wages
Speaker 10: chasing inflation and that's a recipe for disaster. You've seen
Speaker 10: the policies that they're pursuing with regard to energy, let
Speaker 10: alone the question that we're going to get blackouts, which
Speaker 10: is rationing of power as well. But aside from that,
Speaker 10: it just feeds into the cost of everything that people
Speaker 10: have to buy their groceries at the serpmarket. So when
Speaker 10: we see those figures about just how bad it is,
Speaker 10: I think we see just how poor discovernment really is
Speaker 10: and it has to go at the next election because
Speaker 10: Australia and Australians can't forward literally to have them for
Speaker 10: another three years. If you don't have someone who can understand,
Speaker 10: as Albanezi clearly doesn't. And Dr Chalmers with his PhD
Speaker 10: in baull Keating, who honestly believes that he is going
Speaker 10: to reform capitalism, we're in serious trouble. So I think
Speaker 10: that people are awakening from the wokeness that they have
Speaker 10: accepted for a long time. And I think people seeing
Speaker 10: this government for what it is.
Speaker 2: A no bigger issue than the cost of living Caleb.
Speaker 2: And also it goes to the broken promise as well.
Speaker 2: I mean just the number of times Albanzi made this
Speaker 2: his central issue, it's kind of stunning to think it's
Speaker 2: his biggest failure.
Speaker 11: Well, it's hard to think of a prime minister or
Speaker 11: a government in Australian history that has managed to achieve
Speaker 11: so little in its first term. I mean, normally a
Speaker 11: first term government you hit the ground running, here's our
Speaker 11: policy platform, You've given us the mandate to do it.
Speaker 11: What can alban easy point to that he has managed
Speaker 11: to achieve in this term as Prime minister And we've
Speaker 11: had Airbus elbow and upgrade elbow. We might stap calling
Speaker 11: him absent elbow because he's not actually been there to
Speaker 11: do anything. The only thing they can point to, which
Speaker 11: is a fur fee, is that inflation has gone down.
Speaker 11: But of course inflation has only gone down as an
Speaker 11: official figure because the government has pumped money into things
Speaker 11: such as a subsidizing energy for instance. It doesn't make
Speaker 11: a difference to what you have in your pocket. It
Speaker 11: doesn't make a difference, as we know from the household figures,
Speaker 11: what you have to spend. It simply diddles the numbers
Speaker 11: to make the government look good. Apart from that, they've
Speaker 11: done literally nothing, but.
Speaker 2: Inflation is still above the target back. It means that
Speaker 2: the price of everything is rising more than it should.
Speaker 2: Just for a little economics lesson that. Now, we've had
Speaker 2: a couple of beautiful days of warm weather in Sydney.
Speaker 2: Sorry to everyone in Melbourne watching, but when I say
Speaker 2: warm weather, I mean in the city. It's been in
Speaker 2: the high twenties, hardly a heat wave, and yet already
Speaker 2: this is testing the energy grid. Here was the Australian
Speaker 2: Energy Market Operator.
Speaker 12: Today we are experiencing some quite unseasonable hot weather here
Speaker 12: in New South Wales today, that combined with a number
Speaker 12: of major generation units that are on outage, both due
Speaker 12: to planned and unplanned maintenance, is causing tightness in electricity
Speaker 12: supply here in New South Wales, both today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I mean Brom and we just heard in there described
Speaker 2: this as unseasonable hot weather. We're just days out from
Speaker 2: the official summer period starts December the first, and yet
Speaker 2: already it looks like the energy grid is going to
Speaker 2: struggle to cope with it.
Speaker 10: Well, of course it is because we are still totally
Speaker 10: reliant on coal and coal five powerstations. And what has
Speaker 10: happened because in the middle of the day when they
Speaker 10: can buy and do buy circle renewables, it means that
Speaker 10: the stations have to shut off, which means that they
Speaker 10: are degraded, and the maintenance has not been up kept,
Speaker 10: has not been keeping up, and so consequently you've got
Speaker 10: various generators which are offline and being subject to repairs
Speaker 10: and so called maintenance. It's been programmed, but it's not.
Speaker 10: It is a question of saying the government has told
Speaker 10: us that col fired power stations are out and therefore
Speaker 10: we don't have to take care of them, and the
Speaker 10: other fact is this that when you see that in
Speaker 10: New South Wales that the government has had to renew
Speaker 10: the life of Alfy pass over ROWI that was going
Speaker 10: to shut down. That's going to happen more and more
Speaker 10: because we can't do without it. And when I see
Speaker 10: the head of AIMO get up there and say, well,
Speaker 10: we're going to have to ration power, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 10: Ration it. We're going to tell which users can have
Speaker 10: to turn off their activity, such as tom Ago, the
Speaker 10: big aluminium smelter, which is the greatest user about in
Speaker 10: the country.
Speaker 3: It will mean.
Speaker 10: And then watch out if you've got a smart meter,
Speaker 10: because then the.
Speaker 2: Government's productivity are impact on the economy.
Speaker 10: Yep, but watch out personally if you've got a smart meter,
Speaker 10: the government ultimately can turn your power off. Oh wow,
Speaker 10: if you haven't got a smart meter, that guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know, well most people don't, Caleb.
Speaker 2: I heard Paul Murray last night on air say that
Speaker 2: he goes around the house this is to keep his
Speaker 2: power bill down, turning off the lights.
Speaker 3: And I think it's funny because my husband does. I'm
Speaker 3: always turning lights on.
Speaker 2: He's always turning the lights off, you know, because everyone's
Speaker 2: very worried about the power bill.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a gender thing. Caleb, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I mean my mother and father were both fastidious about
Speaker 11: turn the lights off, turn the lights of, and I
Speaker 11: never really understood it as a child who cares I
Speaker 11: wasn't paying the bill. I mean, you know, you think
Speaker 11: money comes out of a wall, right. And it was
Speaker 11: quite funny my girlfriend's young son said recently, because I
Speaker 11: was leaving my rental property and looking for another one, and.
Speaker 1: You just said, why don't you buy a house?
Speaker 11: He said, well, we've got money. I don't just go
Speaker 11: down the bank and get the money, so you don't
Speaker 11: have any content. I do it now though, because you
Speaker 11: know I've got to pay the bill, right. But the
Speaker 11: point on when you made about the coulified powerstations and
Speaker 11: the maintenance is the number one thing here, because, of course,
Speaker 11: all the money the government has spent over at least
Speaker 11: the last decade has gone into renewables. So if you're
Speaker 11: an agl or in origin or whoever it seems to be,
Speaker 11: or whoever it happens to be, who owns a coulifired
Speaker 11: power station, why would you be investing in a form
Speaker 11: of power that the government wants you to turn off
Speaker 11: within the next decade when you can get all the
Speaker 11: money out of them to go and build renewables. Therefore,
Speaker 11: the coli fired power generators we have are degraded. They
Speaker 11: have been for some time. Every time this has happened,
Speaker 11: it's been because they're down for maintenance. And we supposedly
Speaker 11: live in a first world country. Now we've got to know,
Speaker 11: don't have the air conditioner down so low because it's
Speaker 11: bad you run out of power.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 10: I just remember being an international conference and talking to
Speaker 10: someone from an African country. I'll just say I won't
Speaker 10: name it. And he looked at me and he said,
Speaker 10: how on earth can we prosper when in the entire
Speaker 10: country we only have one power generating plant? He said,
Speaker 10: the real prosperity for my country will only come when
Speaker 10: we've got power like you've got now. It's not going
Speaker 10: to come from wind farms. It's not going to come
Speaker 10: from panels of glass.
Speaker 3: It's going to.
Speaker 10: Come from nuclear or coal and or gas. And until
Speaker 10: people recognize this fact and say we've been wrong, we've
Speaker 10: woken up. We're no longer woke, we're awakened. We're really
Speaker 10: going to see what's happening. We are on a trajectory
Speaker 10: to actually seeing my granddaughter inheriting a very poor stand
Speaker 10: of living, and I'm not prepared to stand by and
Speaker 10: let that happen.
Speaker 3: Well, good on you, Bronwan.
Speaker 2: You're here and you're still fighting, and appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Now let's turn to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: He's threatened to raise tariffs by an extra ten percent
Speaker 2: on all Chinese goods coming into the US. He also
Speaker 2: said he'll charge Mexico and Canada a twenty five percent
Speaker 2: tariff on all products coming into the US. He described,
Speaker 2: you know, ridiculous open borders. That's that's his language in
Speaker 2: his social media post.
Speaker 3: Caleb, Look, these are threats.
Speaker 2: The threats could have the intended consequences without him actually
Speaker 2: having to impose the tariffs.
Speaker 11: What do you think, Well, I mean that that's obviously
Speaker 11: what he's playing. And I mean he's alleging that China
Speaker 11: hasn't done enough to stop the flow of fentanel into
Speaker 11: the United States. The same goes for Mexico, of course,
Speaker 11: not to speak for all the illegal immigrants who flow
Speaker 11: over the border. There is no reason that Trump should
Speaker 11: not be able to say, well, I'm going to slap
Speaker 11: these tariffs on you if you don't play ball with us,
Speaker 11: because of course China did exactly the same thing to
Speaker 11: us when we stood up to them. I mean, they
Speaker 11: did put the tariffs in, some of which still there.
Speaker 11: I mean the shellfish. What are we still talking about
Speaker 11: that one? Three times that's been announced and still nothing
Speaker 11: has happened. So yes, I get the argument that it
Speaker 11: could be economically detrimental to consumers in the United States.
Speaker 3: To have tariffs.
Speaker 11: But if China is going to play the game of
Speaker 11: slapping tariffs on other people, why shouldn't we play the
Speaker 11: same game back to them?
Speaker 2: All right, Caylebond, brom A, Bishop, we are out of time.
Speaker 3: So great to see both of you. Thank you. Now.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned Donald Trump's new White House team, it's
Speaker 2: fast taking shape, and one of the President Elect's latest appointments,
Speaker 2: Sebastian Gorka will be the director for counter Terrorism. Gowker
Speaker 2: was part of Donald Trump's first administration. He's a former
Speaker 2: military and intelligence analyst. He's an author, and in recent
Speaker 2: times he's been a conservative television host and now he'll
Speaker 2: play a critical national security role in the White House.
Speaker 2: And he joined me for an exclusive interview a little
Speaker 2: earlier Sebastian Gorka, congratulations and your appointment. You've been given
Speaker 2: the task by Trump of combating terrorism. What do you
Speaker 2: think are the current greatest terror threats to the Western world?
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me. I'm a big fan
Speaker 4: of yours. We follow you closely here on the other
Speaker 4: side of the world. The resurgence of global jihadism. People
Speaker 4: think that it went away, but it didn't. With the
Speaker 4: surrender of Afghanistan, the disgraceful surrender of Afghanistan by Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: by Lloyd Austin, his Secretary of Defense, we have a
Speaker 4: new hub of jihadism. We left eighty well just eighty
Speaker 4: three billion dollars worth of weapons for the Taliban Al
Speaker 4: Qaeda Is resurgent. ISIS is still out there, whether it's
Speaker 4: the Huthis or whether it's the numerous proxies of Iran
Speaker 4: Bolla a Hamas.
Speaker 1: The threat is as great as it's ever been.
Speaker 4: And so that's why we need President Trump his National
Speaker 4: Security advisor Mike Waltz back in the White House, and
Speaker 4: we have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: Come twelve on January the twentieth, in the.
Speaker 2: Face of this growing terror threat as you've just defined it,
Speaker 2: it is extensive. We've also seen thousands of, let's face it,
Speaker 2: terror supporters marching on the street absurdly in the name
Speaker 2: of peace. How do you think said that Western leaders
Speaker 2: internationally have responded to this.
Speaker 4: Well, in some cases they've just stuck their head in
Speaker 4: the sand, and in other cases they have thought that
Speaker 4: they can deal with this threat with some kind of
Speaker 4: political negotiation or some kind of economic aid.
Speaker 1: But they're wrong. They're wrong.
Speaker 4: I've spent thirty years teaching the strategy the ideology of
Speaker 4: the Jihani movement from the Ikuan, the Muslim Brotherhood on
Speaker 4: down through al Qaeda and through Isis. Today we have
Speaker 4: to understand that this is a war between the civilized world,
Speaker 4: the Judeo Christian West, the greatest civilization the war has
Speaker 4: ever seen, and the barbarians, those who wish to destroy
Speaker 4: our civilization. Whether it's those responsible for nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: whether it's those responsible for the heenous attacks on October
Speaker 4: the seventh in Israel where women and children and unarmed
Speaker 4: men were targeted. This is a war to the death
Speaker 4: where only one side can win. The forces of light
Speaker 4: and goodness or those who really are working for the
Speaker 4: destruction of our civilization.
Speaker 3: That's so well put in.
Speaker 2: I'd go further and say that some international leaders have
Speaker 2: been utterly weak. They've been ineffective, hopeless, and probably have enabled.
Speaker 3: The terror threat to grow.
Speaker 2: And that's not to mention the billions of dollars the
Speaker 2: Biden administration gave to Iran and then the other international
Speaker 2: leaders calling for a cease fire instead of showing strength
Speaker 2: and solidarity.
Speaker 3: Well, what's your response to this?
Speaker 4: I can completely concur when you're giving literally billions of dollars,
Speaker 4: as the Biden administration did to those who preach every
Speaker 4: Friday from the Muller's pulpits death to the West, that's suicide.
Speaker 4: That's share insanity. When you think that you can negotiate
Speaker 4: with people who call for the death of every Christian
Speaker 4: and every Jew, that is it's just political suicide, it's
Speaker 4: civilizational suicide.
Speaker 1: So yes, we need leadership.
Speaker 4: And the good news is when President Trump, my former boss,
Speaker 4: and God willing, my future boss, gets behind that resolute desk,
Speaker 4: every nation in the world will have a decision to make.
Speaker 4: Do you stand with those who are taking the fight
Speaker 4: to the Jihades, to the terrorists, to the evildoers, or
Speaker 4: do you stand with those who are trying to destroy
Speaker 4: our civilization. It will be a stark choice. But as
Speaker 4: I said when I was in the White House the
Speaker 4: first time, borrowing a phrase from the Marine Corps, my
Speaker 4: beloved devil dogs, it's very simple, America, no better friend,
Speaker 4: no worse enemy, and there will be a time for
Speaker 4: choosing for all the nations of the world.
Speaker 1: Do you stand with us or do you stand with
Speaker 1: the Jihades?
Speaker 3: Very strong words.
Speaker 2: Well, in light of this, and I understand you've just
Speaker 2: been appointed and this is one of your first interviews,
Speaker 2: but the President has been clear he won't tolerate terror
Speaker 2: support as remaining in the United States.
Speaker 3: What will you do to stop homegrown terror?
Speaker 4: We have a domestic threat as well, when you side
Speaker 4: with those who are calling for the extermination of Israel
Speaker 4: from the River to the SEU.
Speaker 1: When we have people who are, let's put it.
Speaker 4: Mildly or diplomatically useful, idiots or worse working for the
Speaker 4: Iranian regime inside very sensitive positions in the US government
Speaker 4: that cannot be allowed to stand.
Speaker 1: So, yes, we have lots of plans, my friend.
Speaker 4: But it would be impolitic and improper for me to
Speaker 4: reveal any of them right.
Speaker 2: Now, understood, Well, I might ask you about a couple
Speaker 2: of things that Australia has done of late. The Albanezi
Speaker 2: government issuing nearly three thousand visas to Gazans since October seven,
Speaker 2: twenty three.
Speaker 3: Do you think Australia should be.
Speaker 2: Bringing in Gazans right now, which we're doing virtually more
Speaker 2: than any other country on Earth.
Speaker 1: Well, the question is who are they and can you verifine?
Speaker 1: Can you vet them? If you can't, that's a problem.
Speaker 4: So this is why we had the travel moratorium at
Speaker 4: the very beginning of the first Trump administration, because we
Speaker 4: had seven nations who could not verify the identity of
Speaker 4: the people coming to America and who couldn't tell us
Speaker 4: that they were not a threat or they were safe.
Speaker 4: So here's the question that all Australians and the current
Speaker 4: government needs to consider when reliable polling data since October seventh,
Speaker 4: the massacre of the innocence, and I've watched the unedited
Speaker 4: video from Hamas, the forty seven minute unedited video of
Speaker 4: the slaughter of men, women and children. Every decision maker
Speaker 4: needs to see that when you know that more than
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the population of Gaza in recent
Speaker 4: polling agreed with what happened to those innocent Jews on
Speaker 4: October the seventh. The question is are the people coming
Speaker 4: to your nation or to any free nation.
Speaker 1: In the West.
Speaker 4: Are they in support of the slaughter of innocence or
Speaker 4: are they trying to escape the hellhole that is the
Speaker 4: Palestinian quote unquote gas and territories. If they're trying to
Speaker 4: escape it, that's one thing. If they believe in Australia,
Speaker 4: if they believe in your value system, that's great.
Speaker 1: But what if they are part of the.
Speaker 4: Seventy five percent who say the slaughter of the innocence
Speaker 4: is justified. That's the question that your nation and every
Speaker 4: decent nation needs to answer for themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the security risk that we've been concerned about.
Speaker 2: The Albenze government continues to fund UNRA, sending millions of
Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars to the organization, despite its proven terror links.
Speaker 2: What would your message be to the Albanese government on.
Speaker 4: This, Well, it is not my position to message the
Speaker 4: Australian government.
Speaker 1: I will just say to anyone who's.
Speaker 4: Considering the utility or the mandate of the United Nations,
Speaker 4: which conflicts have they prevented and when they have deployed
Speaker 4: conflict zones, including in Africa.
Speaker 1: How much of what they did actually made it worse?
Speaker 4: We know all about the child prostitution rings, the abuse
Speaker 4: of children in Africa by so called blue helmeted UN troops.
Speaker 4: What does that do to the legitimacy of the entity?
Speaker 4: And now we have you know, anybody can fact check me.
Speaker 4: Here we have people who are working for UNRA, the
Speaker 4: United Nations aid agency in the Middle East, who participated
Speaker 4: willingly in the savage, diabolical attack of October the seventh.
Speaker 1: So ask yourself a question, should.
Speaker 4: Your nation, Should any nation that believes in decency be
Speaker 4: funding and supporting an entity whose employees were a part
Speaker 4: of the greatest massacre of the Jewish people since the
Speaker 4: cessation of hostilities in nineteen forty five and the end
Speaker 4: of the show of the Holocaust. I think the answer
Speaker 4: to that question is rather obvious.
Speaker 2: Sebastian Goka, good luck combating terrorism in your new role.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time, and I hope
Speaker 2: to see you again on this program soon.
Speaker 1: God bless you. The pleasure was mine.
Speaker 2: Well, it's easy to see how Trump's national security team
Speaker 2: is going to be pretty unimpressed with the approach taken
Speaker 2: by alban Easy and his lackluster team. Well still to come.
Speaker 2: Could this be the Albenzi government's last sitting week before
Speaker 2: the next election. Cameron Milner has some big views on
Speaker 2: this his political insights coming up plass an interview with
Speaker 2: the former Israeli minister who was blocked from entering our
Speaker 2: country then ghosted by Tony Burke. Alette Shaked would join
Speaker 2: me live from Israel for that exclusive interview right.
Speaker 3: After this quick break welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly the Albanezi government has decided to drop any
Speaker 2: remaining shreds of pretense of maintaining good relations with Israel, because,
Speaker 2: as we've been speaking about it refused to issue a
Speaker 2: visa to an upstanding Israeli citizen, a former Israeli government minister.
Speaker 3: Now, I let Shakhad.
Speaker 2: She may not be welcome into Australia under Anthony Albanizi,
Speaker 2: but she is and will always be welcome onto Sky News,
Speaker 2: and I'm pleased to say I let joins me now
Speaker 2: lie from Israel in her first interview.
Speaker 3: I let welcome.
Speaker 2: I feel ashamed this is our government and I'm sure
Speaker 2: all of my viewers would be feeling the same.
Speaker 3: Can you tell us your reaction when you.
Speaker 2: Received the letter saying that your visa was going to
Speaker 2: be refused?
Speaker 13: Sheila, I was shocked.
Speaker 14: You know, I've been told that this specific government is
Speaker 14: very radical and proper Estinian government, but I never thought
Speaker 14: that they will take such such a decision. You know,
Speaker 14: I was the Minister of Interior as well. I would
Speaker 14: never thought to refuse a visa to a formal official
Speaker 14: of my allies. You know, it's such an undemocratic decision.
Speaker 14: I think your Minister of Interior should be shame of himself.
Speaker 14: That is just trying, you know, to impress radical Muslim
Speaker 14: minority and instead, you know, it's hurting the feeling of
Speaker 14: the Jewish community in Israel and the relationship with Israel.
Speaker 13: You know, I spoke with.
Speaker 14: The Minister of Foreign Affairs in Israel and with the ambassador,
Speaker 14: and definitely there will be consequences to this brutal act.
Speaker 2: That's breaking news that I let what do you mean
Speaker 2: by consequences? So the Foreign Minister in Israel, Giddi inside,
Speaker 2: he's well across this situation. I reported at the start
Speaker 2: of the show that he is very angry about it.
Speaker 2: What ramifications or consequences will they be for Australia.
Speaker 14: Let's wait for the ambassador and for the Minister of
Speaker 14: an Affairs.
Speaker 13: To act and to react.
Speaker 14: But I can tell you, you know, it's not that
Speaker 14: they refuse to give me a visa. It's just that
Speaker 14: this government became anti Semitic on October seven, the Hamas Lounge,
Speaker 14: a genocidal, barbaric attack on Israel. And you know, before
Speaker 14: October seventh, I visited Australia. I have family there with
Speaker 14: my beloved aunt and cousins. They are living in Sydney,
Speaker 14: and I visit the Jewish community in Australia.
Speaker 13: We have amazing Zionists Jewish community in Australia.
Speaker 14: And suddenly after October seventh, they changed their mind. So
Speaker 14: I think it's just a disc it's just a shameful
Speaker 14: and disgraceful decision, and it will be just you know,
Speaker 14: a black anacdote on this government and on the history
Speaker 14: of the relationship between the two countries. But I fully
Speaker 14: believe that Israel and Australia are very good allies and
Speaker 14: it doesn't matter what the government.
Speaker 13: Is right now in Australia.
Speaker 14: And I hope of course that next to you you
Speaker 14: would ever knew a government and I will be able
Speaker 14: to come and visit you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly hope you will be able to come and
Speaker 2: visit us again, because it's absurd that, as you said,
Speaker 2: you were able to come in March last year and
Speaker 2: visit your family here in Australia. Nothing's changed since then
Speaker 2: except for October seven, an attack by Hamas on Israel.
Speaker 2: Now I understand that Tony Burke actually sent a second
Speaker 2: letter to you where he told you that he was
Speaker 2: going to review this decision, but then he never got
Speaker 2: back to you. I mean we call that ghosting. He
Speaker 2: just never got back to you and you were sitting
Speaker 2: there waiting to hear. Yeah, tell us.
Speaker 13: Yes. So it got back to me this morning and
Speaker 13: it's still refused to give me a visa.
Speaker 14: It doesn't really matter because the conference is about to
Speaker 14: finish in two days, so I can't come anyway, but
Speaker 14: it's still refusing and as I'm saying, it's just, you know,
Speaker 14: undemocratic decision.
Speaker 13: I represented Israel.
Speaker 14: I was Minister of Justice and Minister of Interior exactly
Speaker 14: like himself, and I would have never done such a
Speaker 14: thing to my ally and I think, you know, it's
Speaker 14: just he needs to give answer to the Jewish community
Speaker 14: in Australia about this brutal act.
Speaker 13: And I think that, you know, in the basic issue
Speaker 13: is that they.
Speaker 14: Just don't distinguish between good and evil. Israel is fighting
Speaker 14: for a lot. You know, we are fighting in like
Speaker 14: seven frontis against stero organization in the south and in
Speaker 14: the north, this sterile organization Hamas slaughtered our families, burned
Speaker 14: our babies, raped our women.
Speaker 13: Decapitated soldiers.
Speaker 14: And instead of you know, I think that the Democratic
Speaker 14: allies should stand with Israel and say we support Israel
Speaker 14: as a democratic state, we support its right to defend
Speaker 14: itself exactly like the US, and they'll just choose the
Speaker 14: wrong side of the history.
Speaker 2: Now, they blocked you from coming island, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, this Albanesi government rushed through nearly three thousand
Speaker 2: visas for Palestinians from Gaza without proper security vetting.
Speaker 3: We didn't have anyone on the ground.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is an extreme case of moral confusion,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 14: Definitely the Australian people will just you know, allow his
Speaker 14: voice and change this government in the current election. Instead
Speaker 14: of giving full support to Israel. They're just you know,
Speaker 14: betrayed our relationship and give just full support for the
Speaker 14: Palestinian They are looking on one side and distort their reality.
Speaker 3: It's an embarrassment to all of us.
Speaker 2: Here Isila shakhad As I said, you're always welcome on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining us and speaking much.
Speaker 3: It's just appalling, isn't it.
Speaker 2: This isn't how you treat an ally having an existential fight,
Speaker 2: trying to fight for its very survival. Coming up after
Speaker 2: the break, speculation is mounting that the PM may call
Speaker 2: the election earlier than May. I'll tell you which date.
Speaker 2: The alban Easy government is really looking at. Cameron Milner
Speaker 2: and Liz Burke will join me. Plus the debate over
Speaker 2: Labour's social media ban for kids. More coalition figures are
Speaker 2: vowing to cross the floor. That's coming up after this
Speaker 2: quick break.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, let's bring in now former Labor State Director and
Speaker 2: Farmer chief of Staff to Bill Sholton, Cameron Milner and
Speaker 2: News dot com Dot Au Deputy editor Liz Burke.
Speaker 3: Great to see both of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at Labour's social media ban for
Speaker 2: kids now, This was originally a policy that Peter Dutton
Speaker 2: first suggested, but now there are key coalition figures like
Speaker 2: Alexantik and Matt Canavan who are expressing concerns and they
Speaker 2: also say they're not going to vote for the laws.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 15: I don't think it should be pasted this week. I
Speaker 15: don't understand the haste here. It is a joke, it
Speaker 15: is an embarrassment and we should pause this, extend the
Speaker 15: inquiry and let's take a bit more time to consider
Speaker 15: this world leading legislation.
Speaker 1: So I don't support it.
Speaker 16: I do think the words banned media should ever be
Speaker 16: in a sentence together. I'm concerned about a whole range
Speaker 16: of issues. The creep is one of them. The powers
Speaker 16: given to the Commissioner.
Speaker 2: Now, the issue of concern Cameron is that everyone would
Speaker 2: need to give a digital idea.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's the case.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that's the concern that figures and people, you know,
Speaker 2: Australians are holding that everyone adults.
Speaker 3: Included, would need to give a digital ID.
Speaker 2: Labor hasn't actually spelled out how these laws would work,
Speaker 2: and that's part of the problem.
Speaker 17: Well, I think the good thing is that there's genuine
Speaker 17: bipartisan support to actually stop this sewer, the sewer that
Speaker 17: is social media out there polluting our young people with
Speaker 17: shameless information. Look, we don't let them take tobacco or smoke,
Speaker 17: or drive a car or get married for for their
Speaker 17: sixteen So I think sixteens are very good and very reasonable,
Speaker 17: sensible decision. So let's work out the detail. But the
Speaker 17: macro is is we've got to turn off this tap.
Speaker 17: We've got to stop the sewer, and we're going to
Speaker 17: stop social media polluting our young people's minds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Liz, I think most parents, and this is obviously
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton sense because he's backing these lots, most parents
Speaker 2: do want a social media ban for kids. It's very
Speaker 2: hard for them to enforce. But there is at the
Speaker 2: same time growing concern that everyone would have to give
Speaker 2: their identity to use the internet.
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's right, And like you said, there's not heaps
Speaker 18: of detail around that at the moment.
Speaker 3: The Senate Committee.
Speaker 18: Did publish its inquiry its report this evening and there
Speaker 18: is a recommendation in there around the digital ID So
Speaker 18: that's going to force some detail there. I think we'll certainly,
Speaker 18: you know, start to see a bit more of what's
Speaker 18: actually going to be proposed and what could be effective.
Speaker 18: I think though, like you said, it's very popular proposal
Speaker 18: among parents, and a lot of people who support this
Speaker 18: I don't think are really concerned with the detail. Like
Speaker 18: you said, Cameron, it's more about the macro and I
Speaker 18: think there's a rush to get this through. There's both
Speaker 18: a real rush from the government to get a popular
Speaker 18: policy through ahead of an election, and I think there's
Speaker 18: a perceived rush among parents. That's more to do with
Speaker 18: I guess the fleeting nature of youth. I mean, in reality,
Speaker 18: these laws aren't going to be in effect until you know,
Speaker 18: twenty twenty six. They won't actually be able to enforce
Speaker 18: that legislation. But I think there's fear that if it's
Speaker 18: delayed any further, then more and more Australian children are
Speaker 18: going to outgrow these protections. So if it's delayed any further,
Speaker 18: if it's not going to get passed, then you know
Speaker 18: that just kind of leaves more children vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Cameron.
Speaker 2: I want to turn to your piece in the Nightly now.
Speaker 2: I think you're predicting a March eight election day. That's
Speaker 2: my birthday, by the way, So these could be if
Speaker 2: you're right, this week could be the last week of
Speaker 2: the alban Ezy government, in last sitting week before the election.
Speaker 3: What do you think? What are you hearing about when
Speaker 3: the election is going to be called?
Speaker 17: Well, I don't think they can keep going the way
Speaker 17: they are and Parliament is an absolute shamozel, an absolute
Speaker 17: shamodel are I mean, the Greens and Liberals are tag
Speaker 17: teaming their attacks on labor, and labour's being sort of
Speaker 17: beaten up around the chambers, all around the place, and
Speaker 17: they've lost control of Parliament. So there's no point to
Speaker 17: go back, no point to go back. And I don't
Speaker 17: think the budget is going to be the bounce that
Speaker 17: they want either, so leaving it right out to May
Speaker 17: doesn't make a lot of sense. Call the election straight
Speaker 17: after Christmas when people are feeling good about themselves. Got
Speaker 17: a bit of a buzz calling on Australia Day for
Speaker 17: March eight. I think makes an awful lot of sense.
Speaker 2: If people are feeling good about themselves. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of families who are going
Speaker 2: to be struggling to buy Christmas presents for their children.
Speaker 2: They'll be disappointed at children. It could be a complete mess. Liz,
Speaker 2: what's your sense do you think the Prime Minister is
Speaker 2: going to want to return to Parliament next year or
Speaker 2: will you try and avoid that.
Speaker 18: I think there's a pretty good case, like you just said,
Speaker 18: to avoid it. I mean, things aren't really going to
Speaker 18: get better for families, you know, between now and Australia Day,
Speaker 18: between now and March eight, between now and May twenty five,
Speaker 18: if that's when the election is, you know, cost of
Speaker 18: living is not going to go down, affordability is not
Speaker 18: going to get any easier. Things are likely to get
Speaker 18: worse for families. The only sense in holding out would
Speaker 18: be maybe if they're banking on, you know, a rate cut,
Speaker 18: but that's you know.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't put your money off in that now. It's
Speaker 3: not going to happen.
Speaker 18: It's certainly not going to happen before March. It's very
Speaker 18: unlikely to happen before May. So yeah, and we know
Speaker 18: also that the budget is slated for May twenty five.
Speaker 18: With the numbers that they've got to work with, sorry,
Speaker 18: March twenty five, With the numbers that they've got to
Speaker 18: work with, it's going to be really, really difficult to
Speaker 18: produce an election winning budget, So if they can avoid
Speaker 18: that altogether, then that's probably an advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cameron, what do you reckon about this?
Speaker 2: Because Jim Chalmers has delivered two surpluses, you know, a
Speaker 2: huge feat.
Speaker 3: The Coalition wasn't able to deliver a surplus.
Speaker 2: But the next budget will be in severe deficits. So
Speaker 2: do you think they're going to want to avoid that
Speaker 2: or they're just going to have the budget and argue
Speaker 2: that well, they delivered too, and the Coalition did it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 17: I think it's good that we've got surpluses, but I
Speaker 17: don't think voters who are under massive crisis, cost of
Speaker 17: living crisis pretty particularly care about that. They do care
Speaker 17: about labor debt and deficit though, and they'll care about
Speaker 17: the fact that Charmers in March next year has to
Speaker 17: tell everyone that inflation's going back up again. His budget
Speaker 17: only buys those power bills for so long, and they'll
Speaker 17: have to return to what the RBA is saying, which
Speaker 17: is it interest rates and inflation are under pressure in
Speaker 17: the back half of twenty twenty five. So the budget
Speaker 17: is not going to be a great document because of externalities,
Speaker 17: not because of what Chalmer's plan is, but because you've
Speaker 17: actually got to bring to book all those problems that
Speaker 17: Labour's got on the horizon and voters will then see
Speaker 17: it in plane.
Speaker 3: Riding and Liz Dutton does still have the edge.
Speaker 2: The Coalition traditionally has the edge on economic management, but
Speaker 2: I mean that's even exacerbated given the extreme cost of
Speaker 2: living crisis that Australians are going through.
Speaker 18: Yeah, and look, I mean if Cameron's right about his
Speaker 18: election date, maybe it'll be a Dutton government that has
Speaker 18: to hand down the next budget anyway, which is looking
Speaker 18: pretty dismal. But it'll be an easier self for them
Speaker 18: to have to, you know, deliver a budget that's maybe
Speaker 18: not so popular when they're being seen as being lunked
Speaker 18: with Labour's mess.
Speaker 3: Then you know, then it would be.
Speaker 18: For Charmers to have to hand down his budget when
Speaker 18: he's been I guess in control of the economy for
Speaker 18: all these years. But with the surplus issue, I mean,
Speaker 18: to voters really care about about a surplus? I think,
Speaker 18: especially in times like now, it's more about you know,
Speaker 18: what's in it? For me as a voter, I'll often
Speaker 18: see the surplus as you know, government's crowing about having
Speaker 18: all of this excess amount of money, although that's not
Speaker 18: really exactly what it is. It's almost like, you know,
Speaker 18: if you're working at a company and they're announcing delivering
Speaker 18: massive profits for their shareholders, but as an employee, you're going, well,
Speaker 18: where's my pay increase?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 18: I think, I don't think a surplus is as impressive
Speaker 18: and as much of a vote winner people or maybe government.
Speaker 3: Their own family budget.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, foremost completely Cameron, what do I question?
Speaker 3: Without notice?
Speaker 2: As they say, do you there's any chance alban Easy
Speaker 2: will be rolled before the next election.
Speaker 17: Well, that's the other reason for not coming back, because
Speaker 17: the last opportunity for Caucus to neck him this year
Speaker 17: was yesterday unfortunately, So if the Labor comes back, there'll
Speaker 17: be four more Caucus meetings and four more opportunities. So
Speaker 17: going to election before Labor Caucus can actually review him
Speaker 17: might be a good thing.
Speaker 2: And there has been some chatter about Tony Burke being
Speaker 2: a little bit ambitious.
Speaker 17: Burke has always been ambitious, blindingly ambitious, and is the
Speaker 17: sort of guy who would actually roll the dice on
Speaker 17: a leadership.
Speaker 2: Liz, very quickly, before we go, I want to touch
Speaker 2: on the campaign Thatnews Dot COM's running at the moment,
Speaker 2: take the stand, tell.
Speaker 3: Me about it. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 18: So we are campaigning for survivors of sexual assault, who
Speaker 18: overwhelmingly report that when they enter the justice system, they
Speaker 18: come out of it more traumatized than when they entered it.
Speaker 18: In many cases, we've had women report to us that
Speaker 18: they have actually found the experience of going through court,
Speaker 18: even at times when their offender was found guilty, when
Speaker 18: they've had justice, that that experience has actually been traumatic.
Speaker 18: Then the event that more traumatic than the event that
Speaker 18: led them there. So we're campaigning for eight cost effective
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Speaker 18: And Nina Finel, the journalist who is producing this campaign,
Speaker 18: has got some really extraordinary stories, exclusive stories of women
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Speaker 18: sign as well.
Speaker 2: Well done on that important work, Lizbert Camera Milner.
Speaker 3: Great to see you. Thanks all support. Now don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I'll give my final thoughts on Pennywong's comments about the
Speaker 2: ICC warrants to arrest Ned and Yahoo.
Speaker 3: That's after the break now.
Speaker 2: A former un official, Ramesh the cur has made the
Speaker 2: point in the Odds today that the panel that ICC
Speaker 2: Prosecutor Karim Khan selected either had personal links to him
Speaker 2: or were already on the record accusing Israel of war
Speaker 2: crimes that they were asked to investigate. This was never
Speaker 2: going to be an impartial investigation. They didn't even step
Speaker 2: foot in Israel. And tonight Alexander Downer has said that
Speaker 2: he regrets signing Australia up to the ICC when he
Speaker 2: was Foreign Minister. It is now time to leave. I'll
Speaker 2: see you again eight o'clock Thursday. Here's poor Murray