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Speaker 1: Josh Papa Lee Papa best bloke in rugby league. This Sunday,

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Speaker 1: when the Big Fellow plays, He's three hundred and nineteenth

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Speaker 1: game for the Raiders club record. It'll be the greatest

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Speaker 1: thing down there since Bob Hawk and John Howell. He's

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Speaker 1: slice of bread, bigger than when the much loved Jared

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Speaker 1: Croaker celebrated.

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Speaker 2: He's three hundreds at home.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, bigger than when Big mal Maninger retired Viking

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Speaker 1: clapper from wayback. As young fellow, Noah understands the normity.

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Speaker 2: Of at allody.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you'd be there God to see my dad

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Speaker 3: Lamar week fun.

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Speaker 2: Coach Ricky Stewart loves him.

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Speaker 4: A really important game week for our club and for

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Speaker 4: those we all love h Joshrah party and.

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Speaker 1: He's the captain Joey Tarpan's best mate. Papa is the

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Speaker 1: ultimate contradiction, a fearless wrecking ball out there leaving parts

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Speaker 1: of destruction. Get a real softy off the field. Every

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Speaker 1: week before run on he writes the name of six

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Speaker 1: kids on his wrist and even when he runs over

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Speaker 1: an opponent, mobster often go back and dust him off

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Speaker 1: and make sure he's okay.

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Speaker 5: Do that.

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Speaker 1: Coach once asked him to belve the tripe out of

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Speaker 1: Cooper Kronk. Papa refused, saying I had too much respect

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Speaker 1: for his origin teammate, if not a performing New South

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Speaker 1: Wales origin back row Jamie Computer. When a rookie makes

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Speaker 1: the Raiders squad but without a big money contract, eyes

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Speaker 1: in a new pair of boots and you'll notice he's

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Speaker 1: always last off the field, not because he's slow, but

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Speaker 1: because he can never say no.

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Speaker 2: To his fans.

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Speaker 1: Treats everyone the same, and then he talks. We all

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Speaker 1: lean forward two reasons. One speaks very quietly and two

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Speaker 1: makes so much sense.

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Speaker 3: I hate talking in front of the group, not because

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Speaker 3: I'm scared or anything. It's getting nervous and emotional.

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Speaker 1: Poppa's been making everyone he plays with play about us

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Speaker 1: since twenty eleven, when he made is taboo as a teenage.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Try counting slowly, twenty eleven right through to twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen years. Yeah, it's three hundred and nineteen first grade

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Speaker 1: games and off your Raiders cap to the best bloke

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Speaker 1: in rugby league.

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Speaker 4: It's a one and only Josh.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to winner of three sixty red League

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Speaker 2: from every angle during him in the Great Gordon tell

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Speaker 2: Us ok Let's Dring the Journey, Australian James Superan, David Riccio.

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Speaker 2: But Josh Papa Lee. What a player, what man and

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Speaker 2: big Papa through the one hundred and nineteen games and

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Speaker 2: most capped for the Canberra Raiders ever Gordon.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable with that club, the players that they've had go

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Speaker 3: through there for Josh Papa Lee to.

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Speaker 2: Play the most games.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised when he first got picked for Queensland,

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Speaker 3: but I soon become a fan.

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Speaker 2: He's a proper enforcer.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that let his actions do

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Speaker 3: the talking, a real enforcer in the middle. And what

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Speaker 3: a player like to be that big, to play the

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Speaker 3: minutes that he has, you know, the collisions that he's got.

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Speaker 3: It's really worthy to to someone like this in this

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Speaker 6: Champion player. Gordion also champ in Bloke and it was

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Speaker 6: evident from early on he took on Paul Gallon, who

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Speaker 6: was one of those feared forwards in the competition at

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Speaker 6: the time when he was only a very young player.

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Speaker 6: It was in a final series back in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 6: and I think from that point on. People always knew

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Speaker 6: that Papa was going to be a special player. It

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Speaker 6: wasn't always going to be at the Green Machine. Because

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Speaker 6: at one point, when Ricky Stewart had that one season

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Speaker 6: And it was only that they had that round thirteen

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Speaker 6: clause then that you could convince players to backflip. It

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Speaker 6: was only that Donnie Ferner got the puppa and convinced

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Speaker 6: him that he was best suited to remain at the Raiders.

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Speaker 6: Ricky then ends up back at Canberra the following season anyway,

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Speaker 6: which was the reason he was going to Paramatta. So

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Speaker 6: it's worked out perfectly, and I'd argue that he is

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Speaker 6: up there with all of the greatest Raiders players, from

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Speaker 6: Ricky to Lorrie Tol to Bradley Clyde, given what he's

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Speaker 7: I reckon that's one of the best Fox left packages

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Speaker 7: piece and it encapsulates.

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Speaker 8: The camera Raiders. We all know that they're not.

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Speaker 7: The sexiest club. They have to they fight to recruit,

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Speaker 7: but inside their.

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Speaker 8: Walls they know what they're about.

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Speaker 7: And he epitomizes that club, and that's what they don't

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Speaker 7: care what the rest of the world think because they've

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Speaker 7: got people like Big Papa inside the walls. And to

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Speaker 7: be fair, it's him. It's his status that makes them

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Speaker 7: makes the club such.

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Speaker 2: A great record.

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Speaker 3: He's a recruitment tool, specially his son, the little Mini Me.

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Speaker 2: They're signing him.

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Speaker 6: There's already under contract. Donny Ferner told us a funny

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Speaker 6: story this week where they had a tribute lunch at

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Speaker 6: raw Camber Golf Course for Josh on Monday, and there's

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Speaker 6: a putting green outside the function room and when he

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Speaker 6: signed with the Yels, Ricky Suret was having his golf

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Speaker 6: and front Ricky this is back in twenty twelve and

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Speaker 6: tell him, hey, mate, listen, I just want to let

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Speaker 6: you know Papa's backflipped and he's staying with us.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, he said.

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Speaker 6: When he told him, they had to then go and

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Speaker 6: play it and hal he said he was looking over

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Speaker 6: to come. But then when Ricky came back to Camberra

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Speaker 6: he said, mate, she's I'm glad that you got him

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Speaker 6: to backflip. Because he is so influential around the group.

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Speaker 2: One of the best things ever done the Camber Raiders,

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Speaker 2: Josh Papa Lee. We celebrate him this weekend, but let's

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Speaker 2: celebrate their team and they're playing roster, their group and

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Speaker 2: their achievements this year. And Ricky Stewart would this go

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Speaker 2: down as one of his best ever achievements. The season

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Speaker 2: he's having at the moment with his team.

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Speaker 6: I think it is because if you go back to

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Speaker 6: that he wanted to try and tick the premiership box

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Speaker 6: with the Bunnies. That then forced the Raiders it wasn't

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Speaker 6: their plan. They wanted to retain Jack, made him a

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Speaker 6: four year offer I think it was four million dollars

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Speaker 6: or more at the time, but that then forced him

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Speaker 6: so on Ethan Sanders. They've clearly decided that they want

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Speaker 6: to get some youth mixed in amongst those awesome senior

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Speaker 6: forwards like Papa, like Joe Tarpenha like Hudson young that

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Speaker 6: now it's one of the most dangerous attacking sides, if

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Speaker 2: Said they were to start started team at the start

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Speaker 2: just a great team. Ricky's had to build this team,

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Speaker 2: hasn't He hasn't been easy to a lot of people

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Speaker 2: at home. They wouldn't know that, and they've heard over

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Speaker 2: the years, but how hard it is to attract players

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Speaker 2: to camera. It's kind of it's out of the way.

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Speaker 3: They well they were Queensland as early. Then they went

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Speaker 3: with the Englishman. Now they've gone with young kids that

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Speaker 3: no one really knows. Do they have a million dollar player?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's beyond a million dollars, do you?

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Speaker 2: I was thinking today how many players would be close

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Speaker 7: The point being not in their spine and that's where

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Speaker 7: your million dollars sits for most of the premiership win

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Speaker 7: he sides. So what he's getting out of the team

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Speaker 7: when they aren't. You know, the big bickie players is significant.

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Speaker 7: And what I love about the this Raiders team and

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Speaker 7: the way Ricky Stewart's got them going is that it

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Speaker 7: goes there. It goes against everything that Ricky Stewart.

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Speaker 8: Is what we know and love. He's a competitor, he's

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Speaker 8: a winner, right but to get.

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Speaker 7: That, he's had to suffer some some bruises along the

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Speaker 7: going to have to play the long game.

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Speaker 8: He's not the most patient.

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Speaker 7: Bloke, but he's had to play a patient game and

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Speaker 7: and that's that pivoting as a coach shows his class

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Speaker 3: And it's refreshing for me to watch the Raiders play

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Speaker 3: their style of footing. So many sides cookie cutter approach,

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Speaker 3: follow the Melbourne Storm, try to follow Penrith, you know,

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Speaker 2: But Raiders play their.

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Speaker 3: Style of footy and every week they tend to win

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Speaker 3: different you know, whether it's defense or attack, or off

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Speaker 2: And they're surprising a lot of souls.

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Speaker 7: Ethan Sanders is a great example of what they're developing

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Speaker 7: and as far as key positions are concerned at the

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Speaker 7: footy club, Jamal Forgerty misses that game against the Roosters

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Speaker 2: And they've got speed to burn too, like just speed

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Speaker 3: And hasn't even become cold yet. That's when they shine degrees.

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Speaker 6: But the other reason why you can argue that it

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Speaker 6: is one of Ricky's forignest coaching achievements. You go back

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Speaker 6: to the Roosters and the Star Started teams wins the

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Speaker 6: premiership in two thousand and two his first year in coaching.

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Speaker 6: Makes a couple of Grand finals off the back of it,

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Speaker 6: but that team was an absolute role gold gold plated

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Speaker 6: Star Started side. You look at this side right now

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Speaker 6: and yes, Joey Tappany is close to a million dollar player,

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Speaker 6: and Pappa's a champion and Hudson Young's now a senior

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Speaker 2: But aside from.

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Speaker 6: That, yeah, you compare those teams and for what Ricky's

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Speaker 6: the trajectory that he's got them going on it and

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Speaker 2: That, a very interesting subplot this weekend with Jack White

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Speaker 2: and returning. After leaving to win a premiership at Sears,

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Speaker 2: he returns back to Cambran. Despite all the speculation, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Sebold is confident that Jaboievich brothers will finish their careers

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Speaker 2: at Mainly take a look.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're both really passionate about the club. They both

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Speaker 5: want to start at the club.

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Speaker 2: The club. You know, we want to keep them.

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Speaker 5: Peter General and Tony Mestrov met with with their agent

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Speaker 5: post Foot as well. You know, do you want to

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Speaker 5: keep the taboy bitch is around the club. It's just

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Speaker 5: a matter of making sure it's the it's the ideals

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Speaker 5: for both of those guys. Whilst I'm coaching the club

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Speaker 5: and you want to have Turbo in our playing group and.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I wouldn't want to. I can't play over

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Speaker 2: in the Super League, that's for sure. Okay. There are

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Speaker 2: two brothers, two players to unpack here, two legends of

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Speaker 2: the Manly Seagulls. Let's start with Tom. Tom Jaboye Ofvich

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Speaker 2: off contract twenty twenty seven. I believe said he'd take

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Speaker 2: a pay cut, even said he go to Super League.

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Speaker 2: What a gentleman, what a professional, what a human being?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't want to play against Manly Seagles ever. Showed

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Speaker 2: What does it look like? Where does his future light

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Speaker 7: Look, I understand Tom's management are going to sit down

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Speaker 8: Is such a for everything you just said, he's so.

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Speaker 7: Significant on the Northern Beaches for that football club and

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Speaker 7: he does not want to leave. He just doesn't want

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Speaker 7: So that's where the English Super League option has become

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Speaker 2: But he's on one point one. Let's just get in

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Speaker 2: the bottom of that one point one at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Mainly how much of a haircut would he need to

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Speaker 2: take to stay significant? Significant? Are we talking?

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Speaker 7: And I'm saying that respectfully because of the games he's playing,

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Speaker 7: I think he comes down to that seven hundred mark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, agreed?

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Speaker 6: Well, no, I think I'd like to see what happens

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Speaker 6: that form, that destructive where he's breaking tackles, making wine breaks.

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Speaker 2: Really the problem is since he won the Daian Medal

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Speaker 2: healthy at all, Like at any time even when he plays,

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Speaker 2: he looks like he's playing injured. It's it's hard, hard

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Speaker 6: Well, I've tried a lot, and that's what.

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Speaker 2: It is. A business still in fact what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, like they've got to protect their their and salary.

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Speaker 2: They got a lot of young young man.

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Speaker 3: He showed the other night that he's ready to take

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Speaker 3: over the number one jersey.

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Speaker 2: But you don't want to lose Tom. But withoud the

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Speaker 2: game sign seven hundred wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: Well, this is the catch for everything we've just said

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Speaker 7: around like put the burden on the.

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Speaker 2: Club around he was?

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Speaker 7: Still there will have to be tough conversations in and

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Speaker 7: around his physical capabilities and his body.

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Speaker 8: That has to be you can't sign re sign.

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Speaker 3: Him, But wouldn't he play a sound concern and have

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Speaker 3: the same impact on a game?

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Speaker 7: Well, that has to Yeah, in order to keep Lehi

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Speaker 7: Hoppawati's fullback, Absolutely, there's going to have to be a positional.

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Speaker 3: Change, and I think other clubs would put up with that.

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Speaker 3: But if you say I'm going to sign Tom for

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Speaker 3: seven hundred, because there'd be a club that would want

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Speaker 3: Tom to play fullback.

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Speaker 2: He's seven hundred a bit much for a cent today,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You're happy to you you're not. You're

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Speaker 2: he's shown even though he's been injured, and the sacrifice

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Speaker 2: more just to have him there.

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Speaker 8: The influence, the leadership.

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Speaker 2: Every club craves.

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Speaker 7: Leaders within their team, and Tom's influence on a Lehigh

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Speaker 7: Hoppowarty coming through the next gen of manly players coming through.

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Speaker 7: You can't deny that it actually adds dollars to his salary.

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Speaker 7: So look, I'd be comfortable with that, but there has

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Speaker 7: to be a tough conversation in and around his body.

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Speaker 6: If you go back a decade, it was Brett Stewart.

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Speaker 6: There was a young Tommy Turbo coming through and Tom

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Speaker 6: still such a superstar of the game. But on with

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Speaker 6: Dave in that, I think you've got to keep him

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Speaker 6: at the club given everything that he has done for

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Speaker 6: that jersey to date. But you have got to strike

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Speaker 6: the right price. I'd think seven hundred be as much

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Speaker 6: as you can pay, give them what he's been able

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Speaker 7: I waved the Perth franchise flag to his management today and.

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Speaker 8: That was waved away again. Look, so not even the

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Speaker 3: So Tom does not want to play for anybody out,

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Speaker 3: same as Jake, because I think the Dogs offered him

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 2: Said no, that's right, yeah, all right, what about Jake.

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Speaker 2: He's the same of contract twenty twenty seven, six eighty six.

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Speaker 7: Right, So the situation there would be is very much

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Speaker 7: a Luke Keary style of deal where let's have if

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Speaker 7: you recall that Luke Kiri with the Rooster's a very

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Speaker 7: much open communication right, Luke, Let's see how you're going.

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Speaker 8: You see how you're going, We'll see how we're going.

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Speaker 7: And then let's just be honest with each other, same story,

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Speaker 7: same family, super honest. Jake won't muck around, and I

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Speaker 7: think there's a one year deal in it for Jake,

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Speaker 7: but again, it has to come back.

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Speaker 2: Salary was what's what's he around now at the moment.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's sitting up at around nine hundred, so yeah,

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Speaker 7: he's got to come back a fair bit.

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Speaker 6: He won't get anywhere, But I don't think Jake will

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Speaker 6: have an issue with no because he's gone on record.

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Speaker 6: Like when Daily did what he did and decided that

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Speaker 6: he didn't want to be part of the club anymore.

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Speaker 6: Jake was one of the players who fronted up answered

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Speaker 6: the tough questions, said that he could never do this

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Speaker 6: for Manly and I have got no doubt in the

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Speaker 6: world that he would make the sacrifice for the team.

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Speaker 6: He's been well paid for the last few seasons, but

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Speaker 6: I think he would be prepared at this stage of

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Speaker 6: his career to finish on.

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Speaker 2: I think he's playing for a few more years. If

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Speaker 2: you be looking like he blokes at the end of its

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Speaker 2: time boys, I d gets dropped. Who gets captain for Coinsland?

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Speaker 2: So I'm still after that slot captain for coinsly An.

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Speaker 2: You better fask in the raging.

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Speaker 3: There's this you think Harry Grant's going to be there

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Speaker 3: for a long time. You think someone like Tina being

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Speaker 3: a leader at the club. Both of those guys captain

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Speaker 3: there are their clubs. But at the moment DC's a

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Speaker 3: captain Tommy Deed and if he comes in maybe him.

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Speaker 3: He's got Cameron Munster like all those guys like there's

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Speaker 2: So there's enough. Who do you have? Though? You got

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Speaker 2: to pick one right now. I'd pick Tina or Harry.

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Speaker 7: So the concern for me on that, Gordy is Tino's

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Speaker 7: playing in around fifty minutes a game about fifty five Again,

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Speaker 7: in that Origin one performance, Harry Grant needed a spell.

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Speaker 7: He's actually yeah, he's only played two games in six weeks. Now,

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Speaker 7: Harry Green's probably going to need another spell in Origin two.

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Speaker 3: I get that, but sometimes when you're like, when you're captain,

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Speaker 3: it's not about the game, it's about the week, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's about the leading it's about the belief

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Speaker 3: that you're going to give to other guys.

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Speaker 2: It's about the message that.

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Speaker 3: You can deliver, right, And I haven't like and I

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Speaker 3: haven't been around the group, and I know Tino. When

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Speaker 3: you talk to him, he gives your confidence. Harry Grant

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Speaker 3: is probably that same guy.

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Speaker 6: I'd pick your man, I'd pick your man monster because

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Speaker 6: where Coensland are at the moment, this is no disrespect,

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Speaker 6: but they were convincingly beaten in that game, even though

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Speaker 6: the score one was a eight and six off. And

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Speaker 6: you see and you were when you've got the captaincy

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Speaker 6: next to your name, it made you play. It makes

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Speaker 6: the best players may better. That's the best point the

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Speaker 6: circuit break.

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Speaker 3: And that's the best who's going to play better with

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Speaker 3: the c beside? Because some it's a burden, Like you

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Speaker 3: can see some people and they carry it and it

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Speaker 3: can be a burden with some guys and that it

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Speaker 3: doesn't make them play better. Yeah, like they get annoyed

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Speaker 3: it and some guys just gay.

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Speaker 2: That's me.

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Speaker 8: Well the concern for me, Gordy.

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Speaker 7: With Harry as good a leader he is, he had

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Speaker 7: a career low performance in Origin one where he.

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Speaker 8: Almost overplayed his hand. He tried so hard.

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Speaker 6: He won't play that bad, understand but you would.

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Speaker 8: Want Harry just make a focus on your own game.

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Speaker 7: Don't like if he walks into campus.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling us we've got options.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, So you're going to get more advice for some

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Speaker 7: new self welshman. I'm going with Munster as well, because

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Speaker 7: he has that capability of saying, come on, boys, get

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Speaker 7: on my back, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.

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Speaker 3: But does he play better with it or will Munster

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Speaker 3: be Cameron Munster?

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Speaker 2: No? I reckon and he would.

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Speaker 6: I reckon he played the style of character and the

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Speaker 6: style of player. He would revel in the responsibility, do

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Speaker 6: you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think he'd be great captain. I

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Speaker 2: know that it would be a privilege for him, and

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Speaker 2: I know that he would love the responsibility. I haven't

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Speaker 2: spoken to him about it, but yeah, and if he's

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Speaker 2: going to, if there's any team that he I think

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Speaker 2: he'd performed even better at, would be Queensland as a captain,

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Speaker 2: as a leader, because it means so much to him.

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Speaker 2: I've never met a guy who so passionate about his state.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it could only be a good thing. Now,

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Speaker 2: I didn't move into half back. Who's the fourteen.

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Speaker 7: I think they'll go to the eighteenth man of Origin one,

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Speaker 7: Kurt Man. I think they'll use him, and I know

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Speaker 7: how impressed they were during Origin one as far as

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Speaker 7: what Kurt brought to that camp, but also to we

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Speaker 7: know his capability as a utility. He can play a

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Speaker 7: number of positions, and I think it's his chance.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Man before.

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Speaker 6: Billy said on TV on Sunday, was quite telling when

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Speaker 6: he said the definition if if you think they're on

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Speaker 6: the same thing is going to get a different result,

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Speaker 6: then you're probably kidding yourself. So I'm talking a lot

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Speaker 6: of people around the game. There is a bit of

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Speaker 6: a feeling that it might not just be one change Gordy,

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Speaker 6: that there could be significant changes. Possibly the Hammer and

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Speaker 6: Holmes switch around, so Hammer ends up on the wing

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Speaker 6: and Holmes goes into the centers. I've heard Reid Marny's

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Speaker 6: they mentioned that he could come in and Harry could

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Speaker 6: go back to fourteen. To answer your question, Brace, So

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Speaker 6: I don't think Billy's ruling anything out at this stage,

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Speaker 6: but I thought that was quite telling his comments.

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Speaker 3: And we struggle to score points and if Reese wolves

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Speaker 3: comes back and shoots the lights out. Maybe he could

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Speaker 3: get fourteen and then Ponger has paid in the middle.

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Speaker 3: You just don't know. Like these, we've got options, Ezra

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Speaker 3: man Man, Harry Grant. If we start somebody else and

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Speaker 3: so we've got you got Gody, Well.

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Speaker 2: We've got enough.

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Speaker 3: We've got enough, and then we win with our options.

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Speaker 2: A lot of is up in the air for Queensland,

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Speaker 2: so it's going to be interesting to see how that

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Speaker 2: plays out over the weekend. Who's in line to replace

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Speaker 2: Barnett Paul Barnett injured on the weekend, who steps up

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Speaker 2: in his role?

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Speaker 6: I like Kele and Cala Matungi. That's just an opinion.

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Speaker 6: Watchingim against the Warriors, I thought he was his work

441
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Speaker 6: rate since he's moved in the middle. Big Motor played

442
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 6: Origin before and rose to that level. So that's just

443
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Speaker 6: an opinion. But I think the male is Stefano will

444
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 6: probably be the way that they go.

445
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, certainly the male is Stefanomano.

446
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 8: Again, I'll come back to Origin.

447
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Coaches love these guys that have.

448
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 8: Already been part of camps and and that's.

449
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Speaker 7: Exactly what Stefano was as the eighteenth nineteenth man in

450
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 7: camp one, and it's the natural progression for him to

451
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 7: step up and start in this matter. He's Look, he's

452
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 7: a big body. And Craig Bellamy is another key influence here.

453
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Speaker 3: He knows when you start and play eighty minutes, they

454
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Speaker 3: kick off, logical kick off to him, psychological win what

455
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: he can't play at him minute?

456
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: You got will they kick off to it? All right?

457
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: I was just asking you a question. Will they kicked

458
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: the board? Yeah? Absolutely?

459
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: Okay, But if he comes on and he starts with

460
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: those guys in the middle, I'm sure you.

461
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: Kick to it.

462
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 3: But if you come on after all the tough stuff's

463
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: done after twenty five minutes to Hey, I'm just asking

464
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: suggest question.

465
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 2: Start him.

466
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Speaker 7: You're suggesting, you're suggesting he ducks the hard stuff.

467
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: I never said that.

468
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 8: You just said that suggesting.

469
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Speaker 3: No, I didn't what what's hard? The game goes for

470
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: eighty minutes. We've all wanted to duck the hard stuff.

471
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Speaker 3: You never said. I never said he did. I said,

472
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Speaker 3: why don't you pick him? And he plays eighty minutes.

473
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: Minutes the game.

474
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 6: In the game plays eighty minutes.

475
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: That does Glenn Lazars does. Okay, Well, don't beg your

476
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: own teammates.

477
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: I just said, you said I'd pick him and play

478
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: eighty minutes, just kick the ball, and all he said

479
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: he can't after him. Maybe I feel no faith.

480
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 8: In suggesting he's not tough enough.

481
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: I never can feel it. I can sense it from you.

482
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: What is that tough for twenty eighty minutes?

483
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's only playing twenty five off the beach.

484
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: You're saying, cool, all right, let's move on. Well, well,

485
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: well lucky he's a bulldog day after all that. That's

486
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: actually this is roll the tape. You know.

487
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 7: I love your work, breath, absolutely love your work. I'm

488
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 7: not as holding on this as what you are. I'm

489
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 7: really not. I still I still think all thads, all

490
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 7: roads lead to Paramatter. There's still my even money favorites.

491
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: I've still got Paramo.

492
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 8: I've still got Paramatter favorite.

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so only a few weeks ago, you

494
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: just explained what happened there.

495
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 7: It was he shook hands with Paramatter on the Friday.

496
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 7: I understand management, his management, sugar, So it wasn't that

497
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 7: far off the mark break, all right, so what just

498
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 7: respect respect and said, you know, when you don't remember

499
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 7: months they shook hands with Wayne Bennett and that was

500
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 7: very similar.

501
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Didn't happen, didn't respectfully.

502
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 6: The Paramatta fairy tale, the ringer ring arose you that

503
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 6: he was ever going to go to the Eels, and

504
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 6: that they shook hands in the corporate box.

505
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: And that was not confident. I thought you would have been,

506
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: he said all Via Belmore. It was because I remember

507
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: at the time it was heavy heavy. I say this.

508
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 8: I just I just couldn't see how and why they

509
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 8: signed him. I don't know how they why would they

510
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 8: try and fit him in?

511
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 6: Well, he wanted he wanted coaching, and he wanted football

512
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 6: developed with that and those boxes both ticked at Canterbury

513
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 6: Banks down given where they sit on the ladder. I

514
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 6: actually think that the Paramatta narrative was a complete thurfy

515
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 6: throw off, smoke screen fairy tale the tire time. I

516
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 6: do don't because I genuinely believe that.

517
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 8: Lookie says it himself. I spoke to Jason Roles him.

518
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 6: I'm sure he spoke to him.

519
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 7: There.

520
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: No, he didn't, Okay, So he agreed.

521
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 6: With Paramatter on the Friday, and then all of a

522
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 6: sudden he flipped on the Saturday and decided he wanted

523
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 6: to go.

524
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 7: That the story's going with you believe that's I'm only

525
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 7: going to want to the kid says.

526
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: Are any clear to where he will play it on

527
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 2: the weekend.

528
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 8: I still feel like he'll come off the bench brave looks.

529
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 7: I've certainly got no confirmation whatsoever, but I just don't see.

530
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 8: The point in easing this kid in. Like just he's

531
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 8: an NFL player play NRL.

532
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: So when you bring him in, he's going to put

533
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: noses out of joint. So you're just train him straight

534
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: in there now and get the noses out of joint

535
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: now or in two weeks.

536
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 7: Again, the feedback is he hasn't put the noses out

537
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 7: of joint.

538
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: You know.

539
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 7: Cameron Serraldo spoke at his press conference about seeking the

540
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 7: leadership group's advice before signing off on Gavin to ensure

541
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 7: that this, as you're saying, doesn't put noses out of joint.

542
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 8: So I say, throwing man. The only opposing view to

543
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 8: that is is the.

544
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 7: Dogs are such a defensive minded club and their principles

545
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 7: and their structure may take time for Lachlan Galvin to

546
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 7: adjust to and does a new South.

547
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 8: Wales Cup game in that system help that development?

548
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: If he plays, he's fascinating what could happen, Like if

549
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: you actually sit back and think about it, like where

550
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: do you play if he's there with Hayward on the

551
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: bench and you've got your two other forwards? What if

552
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Sexton starts the game poorly and doesn't get off to

553
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: a good start there? You know, do they put Galvin

554
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: in at seven? Do they not? Do they put Hayward

555
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 2: in at seven? Do they not? Where do they put Galvin?

556
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: Do they shuffle anyone else around? Like anything could happen.

557
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they've got a bit of a plan,

558
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: and you know, Serato would know where he thinks he

559
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: could play Hi or what scenarios could play out. But really,

560
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: how's Sexton feeling? Like how much pressure is he got

561
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: on him? When they've just brought a big recruit that

562
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: they've said is going to play. They've got to play

563
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: in the halves. They said he can help them win

564
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: a premiership and his first game he's sitting on the

565
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: bench and Taby's got to go out there coming first

566
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: and think if I stuff this up, I'm gone.

567
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, they couldn't be happy Tobe Sexton because all the

568
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 6: male leading into the by was that he was going

569
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 6: to be dropped when they return. Now he's retained the

570
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 6: jumper for now. But if you go back to the

571
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 6: Raiders game where I think they trialed twenty Niol Cameron

572
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 6: Serado opted to put Bailey Hayward on Now come to

573
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 6: You Broth as a champion half and it looked as

574
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 6: though Hayward was playing more of a dominant on the

575
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 6: ball playmaking role than Sext and was he kind of

576
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 6: took more of a back seat role. Is that now

577
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 6: the role that Galvin could potentially play when he goes

578
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 6: on it.

579
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: Potentially he could potentially he could. I want to come

580
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: to you Dave on this. Actually, when they announced Galvin,

581
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: they said that Sexton was about to be dropped anyway.

582
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: That was the male I got out of Canbury. Yeah,

583
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: I got the same March got the same man, and

584
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden if named him at seven.

585
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 8: Have you heard anything I honestly haven't heard anything different.

586
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 7: I answer to your question in relation to how much

587
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: pressure is he younger, No doubt he's under pressure, but

588
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 7: he's been under pressure all year. He hasn't got a

589
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 7: contract for next year, so he's actually been playing with

590
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 7: a spot a lot more.

591
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Now you think, certainly, you're right, it's a good point

592
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: that you do.

593
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 7: He's off contract, so he's playing under pressure all year.

594
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, But myself and issues because I was a

595
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: half and I know that whenever I played my best

596
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: is when I knew that the coach, the team, the

597
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: players believed in me, and knew I was the best

598
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: man for the job. Like that's that's really what makes

599
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you thrive because you always isn't absolutely going to second

600
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: guess yourself a little bit. Confidence is king. Any hesitation

601
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: or doubt is a killer. So like it was always

602
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: when I was flying, it was like I had the

603
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: support of the teammates. I knew I was doing my

604
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: job well and I was bouncing around and he's kind

605
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: of been doing that, but there's always been this doubt

606
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: hanging over his head. So if I'm him, I'm thinking

607
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: there was this little cloud of doubt. But I was

608
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: optimistic that I was going to get resigned. I'm optimistic that,

609
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, I could even win a premiership and get

610
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: resigned or whatever. I was willing to prove whatever I

611
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: could to get my team, my club to a premiership.

612
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Now he's thinking they don't believe in me. I don't

613
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: know if he's thinking that, so actually forget that, but

614
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: he could. I'm talking about possibilities. I've been putting myself

615
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: in his shoes, you know, As I said, the biggest

616
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: killer in sport and definitely is a half his hesitation

617
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: and doubt.

618
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 6: Isn't he thinking I got to go out and shoot

619
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 6: the lights out? Because I was like, yeah, it's just

620
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 6: a arrive but it's a different minds. And they bought

621
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 6: him to play half back, so I don't go out,

622
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 6: of course, basically playing for his jump.

623
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: Of course he is, but that's more pressure, right, Yeah,

624
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: and you know what, hopefully delivers and I think he can.

625
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to paint a picture. Possibly it's

626
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: a tough assignment.

627
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 6: First up against Mitchell Moses that Blues five at will

628
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 6: be playing for the Yeels on Monday. That game, that's

629
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 6: going to be a crowd.

630
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: It'll be awesome. Let's move on to the Broncos and

631
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Ben Eichenwarn's manages the clean house or be back on

632
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: the chopping block. This was an interesting one, Bomber at

633
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: his best. Peter Biddell writes this story in Yeah what

634
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: did you guys think of this?

635
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 7: The issue is this and when we're all hearing the

636
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 7: same noises that these Broncos players are mentally cooked right

637
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 7: due to the fact that Madge is running a different

638
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 7: regime to what Kevy was running in the past, and

639
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 7: right now the results are reflecting everything. The narrative coming

640
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 7: out of the Broncos is due to their performances. Their

641
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 7: performance against the Manly Seagulls was embarrassing, it was abysmal

642
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 7: h and.

643
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 8: It's now a case of.

644
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 7: I just don't understand why management who appointed Michael McGuire

645
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 7: would now suddenly think about sacking him on the basis

646
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 7: of what he's going on at the moment.

647
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 8: I think they have to stay the course.

648
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Well they have to.

649
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 6: They can't if they sacked Madge, then they have to

650
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: sack them selves because dashing Dave Donahey, the CEO, has

651
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 6: become ducking and diving Dave Donahey. We haven't seen or

652
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 6: heard he hasn't been spotted off nobbies. I think there

653
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 6: might have been a shot with him in the dressing

654
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: room with Madge after that diabolical loss Saturday night, But

655
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 6: aside from that, we haven't earn anything from Dave publicly

656
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 6: about the inferno that is burning at Redhill and it

657
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 6: is an inferno.

658
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Good do you live up there? You know?

659
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 6: The blow torch and the microscope that's put on.

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Speaker 2: This is not that bad, is it? To change it? So?

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Speaker 3: What ben Iichen was trying to say that they don't

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Speaker 3: marry up with Madge's style, and if he wants to

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Speaker 3: play his style, he needs his style of players.

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Speaker 2: Is that No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: I think what Ikey was saying was the roster that

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Speaker 6: Madge is inherited and the setup that Madge is inherited

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Speaker 6: is essentially Kevy's team because Kevy had had v well,

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Speaker 6: that's right, Kevy had had a number of seasons there

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Speaker 6: and set it up the way that he'd want it. Well,

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Speaker 6: if Madge is going to have to find the balance

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Speaker 6: of how he tried us to get it to fly

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Speaker 6: with Kevy's system there, that's the challenge, and at the

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Speaker 6: moment it clearly isn't working. I think, to Dave's point

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Speaker 6: from earlier, all this focus and hype about Madge overtraining them,

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're being overtrained as professional athletes, but

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Speaker 6: I reckon maybe emotionally mentally, it looks as though they're

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Speaker 6: playing quite drain. So maybe they just need to back off,

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Speaker 6: try and get a bit more fun into the joint

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Speaker 6: because at the moment it's clearly an unhappy camp.

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Speaker 2: See what, It's a big game for them this week,

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Speaker 2: a huge game against the Titans, big brother, little brother.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can call them Mighty Titans,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, the mighty Titans. But you know what, like

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Speaker 2: if they don't stand up and deliver this week, they

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Speaker 2: know what's coming because.

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Speaker 3: We need to win as well, the Titans as well,

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Speaker 3: like we do, like we were close to Melbourn, didn't

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Speaker 3: get the Biscuits. So and it'll bring out the best

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Speaker 3: in the Titans. I've got no doubt it'll bring the

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Speaker 3: best out in t and these mates.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeno is your key player matchups thanks to

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Speaker 2: Ozzie Broadband.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to the Raiders Big Poppa up against South

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Speaker 6: Sydney on Sunday. Should be an awesome crowd at g

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Speaker 6: i A Stadium up against Keelon Cola Matangi, who's in

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Speaker 6: form playing for a new South Wales jumper.

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Speaker 2: I'm going now West Tigers.

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Speaker 7: Jerome Louy up against his old club. Nathan clearyutiful the Panthers,

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Speaker 7: good game.

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Speaker 2: Don't wait there, you do. Thank you for that seat.

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Speaker 2: That re seat isn't wearing off. That's those predictions, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it is, maybe

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Speaker 3: Next week, next week's pink jacket all no, thank you,