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Speaker 1: Approche production, how valid ick and you are? Well now, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to your prime.

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Speaker 2: Oh well I was a ten. I was a ten

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Speaker 2: out of ten. You know back then, you know, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know yourself when you're on steroids.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if I'm in your category

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Speaker 4: for this one.

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Speaker 2: So it's the combination.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're on steroids, you're on alcohol, you're on cocaine.

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Speaker 3: That makes and you just tanning for finding motherfucker. You know,

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Speaker 3: someone looked at me the wrong way, I put a

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Speaker 3: fucking glass in their face. You know, literally I would

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Speaker 3: do I wouldn't have to take I just pick up

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Speaker 3: a glass from the side, put it over the head,

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Speaker 3: or to pick up a bottle from the side, I'd

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Speaker 3: smash it on the side. So now I've got the

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Speaker 3: I've now I've just got a broken bottle and of

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Speaker 3: stab it in the neck. You know, I've I've I've

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Speaker 3: glassed and bottled a lot of people that I've never been.

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Speaker 2: Done for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not bragging about it. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've changed my life around now. But yeah, back in

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Speaker 3: the day, I was, I was quite naughty.

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Speaker 1: But the only other thing that you've never been done

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Speaker 1: for is selling cocaine.

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Speaker 2: No, never, never, never, never never never.

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Speaker 3: I was selling big bits of cocaine. Back in the

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Speaker 3: day I was selling. I was making a lot of

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Speaker 3: money selling cocaine.

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Speaker 1: You're clever with that one.

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Speaker 2: You never got caught, never got caught.

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Speaker 1: Now how big? But how big? How big are we

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Speaker 3: I was selling kilos and kilos and kilos back in

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Speaker 3: the day. You know, I was making ten pounds a

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Speaker 3: week selling it. Shit, I was making a lot. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what though, So I this was back in

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Speaker 3: the day. This was you know, this is fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: Before we are we talking.

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Speaker 4: We're talking like when in the prime when what's his name,

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Speaker 4: Curtis Warren was around.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, even before that. So I'm talking way

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Speaker 2: before that. This was before cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Really, people haven't really been using cocaine for very long,

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Speaker 3: have that.

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Speaker 2: You know, cocaine's only.

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Speaker 3: Really been about fifteen years or so. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: not people wasn't doing it loads anyway. So when I

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Speaker 3: was buying it, I I was won a kilo back

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Speaker 3: then for twenty thousand, right now, I would put that.

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Speaker 2: One kilo into five.

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Speaker 3: Kilos, right and I'd mix it with novocaine, lyder caine, caffeine, aspirin.

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Speaker 3: I'd mix it with anything to make it now five times.

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Speaker 3: So now this twenty thousand pounds, I've now got one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand pounds right now. My cocaine when I brought

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Speaker 3: it was around eighty five percent. Now it's only seventeen percent, right,

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Speaker 3: which is fucking shit. But back then, no, we're new

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Speaker 3: about cocaine, so you could get away with it.

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Speaker 2: People would still sniff it.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's nider cane in and over cane in it,

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Speaker 3: and they would think or Ben's a cane and they

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Speaker 3: would think, oh, I'm you know, I'm numb.

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Speaker 2: It's good. No, it's you's got a numbin agent in it.

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Speaker 3: Now, so you know, But then we kind I kind

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Speaker 3: of moved on to you know that you know, that's

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Speaker 3: not good. So we chucked in caffeine, we chucked in aspiring.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I used to make a lot of money

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Speaker 3: So like I say, so, one into five twenty thousand

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Speaker 3: ten thousand pounds a week.

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Speaker 1: What wouldn't yourself? What was that? What was the thing

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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't touch the self?

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Speaker 2: I would never ever, ever, ever ever sell heroin. Okay, ye, no,

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Speaker 2: no way. You know what.

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Speaker 3: I've been in pail a lot of times, and I've

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Speaker 3: smoke the heroine up and and it fucking stinks. He

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Speaker 3: is the worst smeelling stuff you're ever swelling in your life.

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Speaker 3: It's disgusting, you know. And that's only smoking it, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say that shit because that kills people.

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Speaker 2: You know. I've never sa.

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Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me before we go on, because I

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Speaker 4: want to hear someone more about your jail stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen I've seen pictures of you in your

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Speaker 1: younger days. Yeah, explain some of the tattoos, right, I explain?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but in a way where like, is there any

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Speaker 4: meanings to some of them?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: But this is the thing I say to people who says,

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Speaker 3: mean I liked them, So I've got them.

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Speaker 2: Because don't mean anything.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, I've got my son's name, my daughter's name. But

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Speaker 3: most of them I just pictures and just little bits,

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Speaker 3: and it just mixes it all together.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, most of them don't mean.

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Speaker 1: Did you just get them done? When you're on the pistol?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: So tell me about tell me what like when when

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Speaker 1: was the last time you're in jail?

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Speaker 2: I was last.

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Speaker 3: I came out of Joe in twenty fifteen, so for

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Speaker 3: eight years. Okay, so I've done well, I'm not going back.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to go back now because

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Speaker 4: like as I've seen on your Instagram and social media,

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Speaker 4: you're you're now doing acting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, fucking that's a big turn around.

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Speaker 2: It is is. But my think my look kind of

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Speaker 2: helps me with jobs. You know, you do.

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Speaker 1: You get you get off me or do you demand it?

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Speaker 1: Do you get offered it or do you demand it?

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Speaker 3: Give me that one of my roles that I gangst

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Speaker 3: the rolls, drug dealer rolls.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're the kind of roles I get.

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Speaker 3: But that suits me, you know, And what I was

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Speaker 3: doing when I'm in when obviously I've got my scripts.

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Speaker 3: But every time i'm doing it, doing the thing, I'm

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Speaker 2: And yeah, of course you can to.

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Speaker 3: If if if the if the you know, the line

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Speaker 4: Because you know I can tell, I can tell you know,

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Speaker 4: you know what you're around me of.

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Speaker 1: Lock stock and barrel, Jason stay firm.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't got as many tat as you.

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Speaker 2: Oh d me.

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Speaker 4: So when you got out of jail, did you did

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Speaker 4: you just want to turn a corner or what?

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Speaker 3: You know what the last time I did? Last time,

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Speaker 3: I've done twelve years in jail. Well I've not done

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Speaker 3: I've been sentenced to twelve years in jail. So I've

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Speaker 3: fucking time. You know, I don't understand these people that

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Speaker 2: And you know all this and all that, just fucking manner.

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Speaker 3: Get on with it. There's nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 3: Do sentence and get out, you know. So I've done

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Speaker 3: that the last time I got out in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: I just thought to myself, I've had fuck enough. You know,

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Speaker 3: I don't need it, you know, So and that was

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Speaker 3: the turning point, you know. And I've had a lot

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Speaker 3: of you know, I've had a lot of trouble over

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Speaker 3: the years. So you know, I've been hit with baseball bats,

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Speaker 3: cosh's buttons, I've been stabbed, I've been glassed, I've been

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Speaker 3: run over. You know, I've been hit by a fucking

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Speaker 3: car deliberately, and then when you know they jumped out

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Speaker 3: the back and fucking smashed me with baseball bats. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've I've had it all. So yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of the time to calm down.

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Speaker 1: When you say you got You got into a lot

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Speaker 1: of fights like this. Was it just you by yourself,

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Speaker 1: like they're coming after you? Or you is there a

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Speaker 3: Nine times out of ten it would just be me

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Speaker 3: on my own. Obviously, I've got mates, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got loads of different mates, different circles.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it was never gang related. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was never just a personal thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a personal thing. So yeah, you know, when I

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Speaker 3: got run over, you know, I upset these uh, let's

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Speaker 3: you know, literally they they'd come. And I remember, I

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Speaker 3: remember I looked around. I had this car room and

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Speaker 3: it fucking ran right over me. As if that wasn't enough,

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Speaker 3: they got out with baseball bats. I started paired of

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Speaker 3: me with baseball bats. I remember when I got to hospital,

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Speaker 3: I had a white I had a white top one

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Speaker 2: Could see the tire marks literally ran all over me.

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Speaker 3: And the hospital said, you know, you know, if she

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Speaker 3: don't think you'd have walked again, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I was on crutches for six weeks.

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Speaker 3: I was in the hospital for two weeks, and then

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Speaker 3: you know, I was going to I was going to

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Speaker 3: the gym on my crutches, a little bit of biceps.

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Speaker 1: Did you finally meet up with them after it or not?

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Speaker 2: No comment, No,