1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: On Scornelds, Australia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: This is the winder Paney Show. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patahe Show. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. Australia's Ambassador to the US, 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: Kevin Rather, humiliated and forced to apologize to Donald Trump 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: during a tense dressing down at the White House. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Kosher Gada will. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Join me to discuss Anthony Arbernisi's first meeting with the 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: US President. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Was it a success? 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: UK prison officers order to offer transgender prisoners makeup and 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: prosthetics in men's prisons. Stephanie Bastian has more on this 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: latest gender madness. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: The tolerant left strikes again. 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Comedian Alex Stein is assaulted at a No King's protest 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: to the US. He'll tell us what happened shortly and 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: of course. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Left he's losing it and the wild Karens are back. 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 4: What does it? 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: But first to the humiliation of Australia's Ambassador to the US, 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd, who was finally made to face President Donald 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: Trump during the Prime Minister's visit to the US. During 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: a tense White House clash. The President demanded Rod apologized 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: for disparaging remarks he made about him after his first term, 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: labeling him the most destructive president in history and as 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: a traitor. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: To the West in a series of social media posts. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: Now have a look at right squirm while Anthony Albanezi 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: laughs at him? 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: Has been concerned in Australias taken nine months to get 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: this meeting? 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 6: Have you had any concerns with this administration, with the 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 6: stance on Palestine, climate change or even things the ambassador 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 6: said about you in the past, the Australian ambassador, I 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 6: don't know anything about him. If he said bad then 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 6: maybe he'll like to apologize. I really don't know. Did 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 6: an ambassador to say something about it? 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 4: Don't tell me. Whereas yes, you said bad dispositions to president. 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 6: I don't like you either and probably never will. 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh it was delicious, wasn't it. 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: Johnny winn Appamore on this his former Victorian Liberal Party 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: president Michael Kroger, and Menzi's research center seeior fellow Nick Cator. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Hi to both of you, Thanks so much for your 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: time this evening. Michael over to you first, what do 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: you make of this scolding? 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 7: Well, it just shows you Niga. Even though the meeting 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 7: went well in terms of, you know, the trade deals 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 7: Australia got out of it, which is great for our country. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 7: It's another reason why Rudd should not be the ambassador. 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 7: Susan Lee, the Liberal Party of the leaders, called on 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 7: him to go. She's absolutely right. I mean, who wants 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 7: that country embarrassed by the rogue comments of our ambassador. 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 7: Before he became the ambassador, he made some stupid comments. 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 7: He also referred to Trump as a village idiot. I mean, 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 7: you know seriously then that he was made ambassador, So 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 7: it was embarrassing for Australia, embarrassing for our country and 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 7: national interest, embarrassing around the world. These pictures have gone 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 7: all around the world. So a good day for Australia 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 7: in one sense, but a very bad day in another sense. 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 7: Another reason why Kevin Rudd shouldn't be reappointed when he 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 7: comes up very important reappointment. 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, you're right. 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's been the elephant in the 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: room this whole time. Nick is still the elephant in 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: the room. But the elephant in the room had to 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: be addressed today. Do you think his role as ambassador 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: can seriously continue? 68 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think was obviously right when he said that 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was a destructive prime a destructive president. I mean, 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: he certainly should have destroyed Kevin Rudd's career after that one. 71 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh look, when your ambassador is the topic of conversation 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: at a high level meeting, it is not a good 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: day for Australia. When your ambassador is a joke, when 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: everybody in the room is laughing at him, when he's 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: the laughing stock in the entire room, then it's a 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: terrible day. If Kevin Rudd had any ability to be embarrassed, 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: he would be resigning right now. I suspect he doesn't. 78 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: He seems to be somebody who had his embarrassment gene 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: removed at b But he you know, his position was 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: always untenable. It is completely untenable now. And if Prime 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Minister had any sense of what the right thing to 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: do would be, he'd replaced him quietly in about six 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: weeks time. 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: Well you think so, yeah, you're right. 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Rud's now just a walking punchline and the division, as 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: we all said, has gone viral. But let's talk more 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: broadly about this meeting. It was a long time coming. 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Finally Anthony Alberneasy sat down with the President the President 89 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: actually praised the Orcas pack to have a listen. 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 6: It was made a while ago and nobody did anything 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 6: about it, and it's going too slowly. We do actually 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 6: have a lot of submarines. We have the best submarines 93 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 6: in the world anywhere in the world, and we're building 94 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 6: a few more currently under construction, and now we're starting. 95 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 6: We have it all set with Anthony. We've worked on 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 6: this long and high, and we're starting in that process 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: right now, and I think it's really moving along very rapidly, 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 6: very well. 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: Michael, So, by all accounts, the Orchest agreement is safe. 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: What do you make of this meeting? Do you think 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: that Anthony Arberenezi would be breathing a sigh of relief? 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 7: There is absolutely no doubt at all, DANEAKA. He is 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 7: breathing a sigh of relief. He's probably had half a 104 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 7: dozen bers back to his hotel room thinking thank God 105 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 7: for that. It could have gone in any direction, but 106 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 7: clearly Trump was in the mood and in discussions with 107 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 7: his advisors they've worked out, hey, listen, how do we 108 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 7: handle this guy this meeting? Well, Australia are one of 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 7: our closest, more reliable, more long standing allies going back 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 7: over one hundred years. I mean MacArthur had his base 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 7: here in Australia during the war. I mean, George were 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 7: soon you had a close relationship with Australia and Australian 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 7: Prime Minister Bob Hawk, his son had a close relationship 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 7: with he was president with John Howard, et cetera et ce. 115 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: Men, we are as close as close. 116 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: Despite the rat bag left in Australia that don't want 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 7: us to be aloes with America. This was an acknowledgment 118 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 7: of Australia being a true ally of the United States 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 7: for more than one hundred years. And you know that's 120 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 7: what happened today. And it's good for Australia that he 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 7: treated our country with the respect it deserves and quite 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 7: franctly Albaneze he said the same things about America. So 123 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 7: you know, a good day for Australia apart from the 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 7: elephant in the room. 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, apart from the elephant in the room, Nick. Realistically, 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Australia got some assurances from the US. 127 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: The reassurance over UCAS is a big relief that you 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: now have a president who endorses it, because I don't 129 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: think when Joe Biden signed it. He knew what he 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: was signing, quite honestly. If you remember that press conference, 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: he couldn't even remember Prime Minister Morrison's name. He called 132 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: him that fellow down under something. So clearly, now we 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: have a president who's engaged in foreign policy. It was Trump, 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: of course who changed the American foreign policy towards China 135 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: in his first term, realizing that they are an enormous 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: threat and we shouldn't we shouldn't be naive in our 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: dealings with China. So that the fact that he has 138 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: now grasped this, he is right behind the idea of 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: sending a submarines. That's terrific. The same thing goes for 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: the rare Earth deal too. Again, that's a very important 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: strategic move to push China out of the picture, to 142 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: stop them controlling absolutely everything in the world. And I 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: think what we should do is abandon this things made 144 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: in Australia policy that Albanesi has and recognize that it's 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: important that things are made in the West with our 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: Western allies, and if we can contribute to that, be 147 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: part of that logistics change, we'll be doing a lot 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: for our own security. 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: Look absolutely, and look, let's talk more broadly about China, 150 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: because a Chinese fighter plane has released flares very close 151 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: to a Royal Australian Air Force plane carrying out surveillance 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: in international airspace over the South China Sea. Defense Minister 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: Richard Miles had this characteristically weak response. 154 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 8: On two occasions it released flares very close to the 155 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 8: P eight and it's really that the proximity at which 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 8: the flares were released which has given us cause to 157 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 8: dean this unsafe and unprofessional. We have made representations to 158 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 8: the Chinese embassy here in Canberra, and inteed our embassy 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 8: has also made representations in Beijing. 160 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, another nothing to see, all above board response 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: from labor and yet you know, Anthony Arbernesi has just 162 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: been and gone to China. All that panda diplomacy has 163 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: fallen on deaf ears. 164 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it be interesting to hear what the Chinese 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 7: government's responses to the learning of these flares in our inquiries. 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 7: Australian government attitude to China is very obsequious. We are 167 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 7: a small nation with big trade. We are inferior military, 168 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 7: militarily and every other way. And you know, and that's 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 7: the way albneasy treats the relationship with China. We are subservient. 170 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 7: We can't challenge them, we can't take them on. We're 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: fearful of, you know, a trade embarger, which is what 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 7: happened a few years ago when the then government tried 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 7: to stand up to China. So he's just decided weakness 174 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 7: is the best cause of action. A new see it 175 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 7: and everything the government does with China, which is very dangerous. 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 7: Of course, it embolves China and the South Pacific, and 177 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 7: that's why our treaty with the New Guinea is an 178 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 7: important one. But you know, quite frankly, you have to 179 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 7: stand up to China from time to time. You just 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 7: can't bury your head, which is what this training government 181 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 7: does and let China walk all over us because I 182 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 7: think on too many occasions that seems to happen, and 183 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 7: we never get a we never get a sufficient results 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 7: from China as to why they're doing what they're doing 185 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 7: off the Australian. 186 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Coast, No exactly, And I mean, what are they waiting for? 187 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 9: This? 188 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: You know, soft diplomacy? 189 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: And then a flare hits one of our military jets 190 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: and blows the thing up. 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they waiting for? 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: Nick, And also I wonder about the timing of this, 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: because China would have known obviously that Anthony Abernezi was 194 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: going to the US for this meeting. 195 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything in that If the Chinese 196 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: did do it to time with that meeting, then they've 197 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: done us a favor because it was a clear reminder 198 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: for Antony Alberanezi, who seems to have trouble realzing this 199 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: whose side we are on in this dispute. So he's 200 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: there signing a strategic deal, he's there signing a trade 201 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: deal both to deal with the China threat. He's got 202 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: this reminder of the China threat the day before. Surely 203 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: he's got to stop this pretense that Australia is somehow 204 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: in the middle, that we're friends with everybody, that China 205 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: is a benign power that has our best interests at heart. 206 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: It's ludicrous. And you know, while we're at it, was 207 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: reminded justin to Allan of that after she's just been 208 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: to China to try and get money out of them 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: for this, that and the other, she shouldn't be anywhere 210 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: near China right now. She should be barred from going 211 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: to China. 212 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 213 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: Well, clearly, you know, but they're all they're all closing 214 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: up to China at the moment. 215 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Now. 216 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: Look at former Nationals leader Michael McCormack has attempted to 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: hose down suggestions that MPs could quit the party or 218 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: defect to one nation. Of course, amid the reports that 219 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce is in high level talks with Pauline Hansen 220 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: following his. 221 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Decision to quit the Nationals. 222 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: Michael, look that thent's that they're downplaying this, even David 223 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 3: Little Proud saying, you know, everything's all above board, but 224 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, realistically, how do you see. 225 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: This playing out. 226 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: There's so many issues at play and it all stems 227 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: around energy policy. 228 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 7: Well it partly does, partly personality issues and the way 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 7: Joyce was treated before the election, et cetera, et cetera. 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of personal issues that Barnaby Joyce 231 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 7: has with the National Party. I would think in the 232 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 7: next month or so, the energy policy will be the 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: issue will be resolved. And what I'd really like to 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 7: see is Barnaby make a decision on his future sooner 235 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 7: rather than later. And if he's staying with the National Party, 236 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 7: he should say so. If he's leaving the National Party equally, 237 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 7: he should say so. And you can't let this caravan 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 7: keep circling day after day, week after week, month after 239 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 7: month month. It's destructive for the National Party. It's not 240 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: really helping Barnaby because people think he's a wrecker and 241 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 7: I obviously doesn't help the coalition. So the sooner he 242 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 7: makes the decision, I think the better, so we can 243 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 7: get on with policy development. And you can see that's 244 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 7: what Susan Lee's doing on a daily basis, you know, 245 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 7: as you get a great speech to the CIS yesterday 246 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 7: about the importance of lowering personal income taxes. So she's 247 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 7: starting to build a narrative for the next election and 248 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 7: these distractions are not helping. And as James Patterson said, 249 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 7: it's time to bring this sort of national apology to her, 250 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 7: to know frakka to an end so people can concentrate 251 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: on the next election. 252 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: I think that they're good, well, look absolutely, and I 253 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: mean the problem is that the Coalition are still talking 254 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: about themselves as opposed to actually putting some policy ideas 255 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: on the table, and that's half the battle right now. 256 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: But I mean, is Michael right, Nick, But the suit 257 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: of Barnaby comes out and says, Yep, this is what 258 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm doing. 259 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: Everyone can move on. 260 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he is. When this story broke at 261 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: the weekend or was it on Friday, Barnaby should have 262 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: either just denied it completely. He said he had no 263 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: intention of leaving the Nationals and joining One Nation while 264 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: he's in Parliament, or he should just get on and 265 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: do it, leave the party's party room and go and 266 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: join One Nation if that's what he's in to do. 267 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that'd be a sensible thing right now, 268 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: but I do think it's a reminder of the importance 269 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: of the Curalition getting its act together, getting a firm 270 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: position on immigration, a firm position on energy policy that 271 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: the party can live with, both sides of the party 272 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: can live with, even if neither side is happy, because 273 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: if they don't fail to do that, and what we 274 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: see with Barnaby is just a foretaste of what's to come, 275 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: you will see a complete realignment of the center right, 276 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: which is not a good option. It's a much better 277 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 2: option that the Couralition goes in in the United position 278 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: to fight the next election. 279 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: It couldn't agree more give voters a clear and actual, 280 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: stark choice now. Look, the Queensland government has signed a 281 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: pseudo voice packed with seventeen Indigenous run councils, granting them 282 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 3: direct access to the state cabinet to advise them on 283 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: issues like housing and water access. Meanwhile, the state's sixty 284 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: other councils will be forced to continue dealing with layers 285 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: of bureaucracy to meet with government figures. 286 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Michael, I can't help but wonder if this is some 287 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: sort of a voice by stealth. 288 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 7: I don't agree with it. You know, we're one nation 289 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 7: where you can't have a treaty. A nation can't have 290 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: a treaty with itself. That implies there are two nations 291 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 7: that can't get on and need special privileges to deal 292 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 7: with each other. It's very destructive, it's divisive, it's based 293 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 7: on race, and it's not helpful to the nation. So 294 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 7: to acknowledge, I mean, are there are hundreds and hundreds 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 7: of Aboriginal advisory bodies already? The Council of Peaks, I mean, 296 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 7: there's hundreds of them. 297 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: I don't think. 298 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 7: I don't think indigenous community's capacity to talk to state 299 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 7: and federal governments is any way being inhibited in recent years. 300 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 7: I can't think of any major examples where these voices 301 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: haven't been heard directly with governed, as they should be, 302 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 7: as every group making representations to governments and government bodies 303 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 7: should be heard, and they have been heard. But I 304 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 7: think the grand special privileges to one group over another 305 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 7: is wrong, and I regret that this is being done. 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 7: We've got this problem now in Victoria with the Voice 307 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 7: by Sealth coming to Victorian Parlan, which will which will 308 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 7: divide Victorians by race forever if it gets passed by 309 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: the Upper House. So no, I don't agree with these 310 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: types of proposals, and I wish the government would rethink 311 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 7: it up there. 312 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. We're almost our time, Nick, But. 313 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, rather than find these workarounds to bypass bureaucracy, 314 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: why not slim down the bureaucracy in the first place 315 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: and then make it fair for everybody. It's ludicrous that 316 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: you should do this for one particular group rather than another, 317 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: and I'm surprised the Queensland government is going anywhere near there. 318 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Well, sixty percent us percent of us said no to 319 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: being divided by the color of our skin, So we 320 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: can't keep having this Nick Kate and Michael Kroger. Good 321 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: to see you both. Thanks so much for doing to 322 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: me on the show. 323 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 324 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's head of advocacy, 325 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian. Step nice to catch up as always, Thanks 326 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: for joining me. Let's start with this story out of Victoria. 327 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: The government is under fire for ignoring repeated requests to 328 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: meet with parents of adolescence with gender distress. Now, this 329 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: is a group of parents whose children are struggling with 330 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: gender identity. It comes amid revelations Victory or in state 331 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: schools are allowing students to socially transition their gender without 332 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: parental knowledge or consent. Steph the Education Department's Deputy secretary 333 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: told the group that any further correspondence would be quote 334 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: filed and not responded to. And the premieer is running 335 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: away from this. Her government's refusing to record how many 336 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: kids this is happening to. 337 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: What has the premier got to hide? 338 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: Well, good evening, Danika, great to join you. 339 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 5: I mean the Premier is issuing a lot of platitudes 340 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: at the moment about supporting kids with gender diverse feelings 341 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: and emotions and when it comes to the parents that 342 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 5: are trying to deal with these children and to support them, 343 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 5: she's now running away. 344 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: The model in Victoria is wrong. 345 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: First of all, you have kids being educated about gender 346 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: ideology in schools. If you tell a child they can 347 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: change their sex or gender, which is used intimidtently, they 348 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: will believe you. 349 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: Then they're being socially transitioned at school. 350 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: So by the time the parents find out about them, 351 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: they're often at medical tal transition, and they've got these 352 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: conversion therapy laws to grapple with. How do they support 353 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: their children and get holistic care if the child is 354 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 5: already down the pathway of gender affirmation. It's an absolute disgrace. 355 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 5: But I do think the government is intentionally running away 356 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 5: from this. Their whole department seems to have been captured 357 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 5: by ideologues that are bent on pushing this agenda down 358 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: the throats of children, and it's an absolute disgrace. But 359 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: most concerningly is that it is causing very real harm 360 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 5: to these vulnerable children. It's not just a change of 361 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 5: name and a change of outfit. You're modifying their bodies 362 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: with the full extent of where this leads to. 363 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely and once again, parents are left in the dark. 364 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: They've got no idea. 365 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: What's going on with their own children because of this 366 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: Wope ideology that's been thrust in classrooms and in general. 367 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: It's just terrible. 368 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: Now let's move on, because a second woman has come 369 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: forward detailing her quote five months of hell locked in 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: a cell with a transgender prisoner in South Australia. She's 371 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: told The Australian she was forced to share a cell 372 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: with christ Richard, a violent criminal who was alleged last 373 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: week to have brutally sexually assaulted a young woman. The 374 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: former inmates said she was forced to sleep next to 375 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: the near naked sixty nine year old once known as 376 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Leslie Graham Richards, but who has now had gender affirming 377 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: surgery and claims to be a lesbian steph. Of course, 378 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this just comes days after the Premier Peter 379 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: Malinowskis dismissed the safety of female inmates as a quote 380 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: niche issue. I mean, the topic keeps coming up. Why 381 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: are they so scared about the rights of women to 382 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: even have this discussion. 383 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: Well, Premier Malanowskis has made it very clear that women 384 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 5: in custody are undeserving of his time and attention. It 385 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: doesn't matter where it happens. Violence against women, abusive women 386 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: is always wrong. Now, this is a woman who was 387 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: systemically failed by corrections. She was forced to stay in 388 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 5: a cell with this man who was also running around 389 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: threatening women. 390 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: I believe he chased her to assault her. 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 5: There's strong allegations coming about the behavior of this man 392 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: and she put up with it for five months because 393 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 5: she was threatened to have moved to a prison further 394 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 5: away from her children. 395 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 4: This is absolutely inhumane. 396 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: I think the Ombudsman at the time in twenty nineteen, 397 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 5: Wayne Line should also be called out because he advocated 398 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: for prison authorities to act more quickly on affirming Leslie 399 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: Christ's gender and said that prison authorities hadn't moved quickly enough. 400 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: And I just question these women. Where are the advocates 401 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: in the prison system for these women? And we do 402 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 5: know that there are other allegations against this prisoner as well, 403 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 5: and he is still in a female prison. So absolute 404 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 5: trial by the Premier and the Corrections Minister in South 405 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: Australia who have failed to do nothing. 406 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: In fact, they've dismissed it as a nache issue. 407 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: Look it's an absolute disgrace and all credit up to 408 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: the Northern Territory Leofanocchiaro, the only leader with a spine 409 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: to actually come out and have a position on this. 410 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Now. Look, this is extraordinary. 411 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: Over in the UK, prison officers have been ordered to 412 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: offer transgender prisoners makeup and prosthetics in men's prisons. According 413 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: to newly released government guidance, staff for urged to supply 414 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: appropriate clothing and toilet trees, including makeup for their acquired gender, 415 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: and help transgender inmates to buy or supply them with 416 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 3: prosthetics or chest binders. 417 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Steph that this is just absurd. 418 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: Look, I think if you're a male prisoner in a 419 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 5: male prison, you're going to want to try and move 420 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: to a female prison because of the privileges. I mean, 421 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 5: there was a saying going around the UK prison onset 422 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 5: gender dysphoria just for this particular purpose. 423 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: It's an absolute disgrace. 424 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 5: Obviously the UK have made leaps and bounds in terms 425 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 5: of recognizing women under. 426 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: Law, but they still have a long way to go. 427 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 5: They'll be hopefully a series of court cases challenging the 428 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: human rights of women in the prison system to get 429 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: these men out, but you can just see the quagmire 430 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 5: of mess that's come from gender ideology in our law. 431 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: And just how far behind Australia is. 432 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: I mean, if women are recognized in Laura in the 433 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: UK and they're still grappling with these issues, we've got 434 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: a long way to go. 435 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: We are so far behind the rest of the world. 436 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastian, nice to see you, Thanks very much 437 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: for your time. 438 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: This evening pasure still to come. 439 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: Lefties losing it and the fallout continues from Donald Trump's 440 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: dressing down of Kevin Rudd at the White House. 441 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Kosha Gada is upneas. 442 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 3: And now it is time for lefties losing it, starting 443 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: with the No King's rally to oppose Donald Trump and 444 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: the real low vibrational attendees. Here are Democrat Senators Corey 445 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: Booker and Adam Schiff giving it a go, trying to 446 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: hamp up the crowds. 447 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: This is what democracy looks. This is what democracy looks like. 448 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: This says what democracy looks like. This say is what 449 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: democracy looks. 450 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually saw more enthusiasm from Joe Biden when 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 3: he was walking around in circles than the enthusiasm from 452 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: that crowd. 453 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: So what exactly is their objection to Donald Trump? I'll 454 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: let them explain. Trump's Ah, why is that? I don't know. 455 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: We don't like him. 456 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 8: That's the word around here. 457 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 10: Any any particular reason why you don't like him. 458 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 9: No clue at all. 459 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: I'm just going with everybody else saying no, no, he 460 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: doesn't know. I'm not sure. I don't understand either. Maybe 461 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: this woman can explain. 462 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: Couldn't even protest like that if we had a king. 463 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a point. 464 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 11: I'm going to try to break this down for you 465 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 11: in words that you will understand. 466 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: No have king, No have king? 467 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 11: Good good have president? President not good president acting like king. 468 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 11: Bad president, consolidating power, president not representing the people. 469 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: We wh Wow, that really made sense, didn't it? Okay, 470 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: one more time, maybe this woman can help us. 471 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: What has president dropped on to make him a monarch? 472 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 12: He started to take control and do illegal things and 473 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 12: that are not within his power. So that's pretty much 474 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 12: what makes a person of monarch. They take complete control 475 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 12: even though they shouldn't have it. 476 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: He was elected. Does she know that? Who's going to 477 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: tell her? Now? 478 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: To serial teds afflicted Robert de Niro and his latest 479 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: deranged outburst. 480 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 13: He's an alien and he wants to he wants to 481 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 13: hurt this country. It's something deeply psychological in him. He 482 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 13: wants to hurt people. He wants to hurt this country. 483 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 13: Doesn't care. And what saddens me the most, upsets me 484 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 13: the most is that people follow him. 485 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Good one, Robert, the world really appreciates your eagle eyed 486 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: political commentary. 487 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: And look at seems as though old Rob was. 488 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: On a dumboned, louded role while appearing on his preferred channel, MSNBC. 489 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: No one was spared, not even Donald Trump's senior advisor 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller. 491 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 13: He will not he we see it. We see it. 492 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 13: We see it every we see it all the time. 493 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 13: He will not want to leave. He set it up 494 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 13: with his I guess he's the gabbles of the of 495 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 13: the Cabinet, Stephen Miller. He's he's a Nazi, Yes he is, 496 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 13: and he's Jewish and he should be ashamed of himself. 497 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about the tolerant left and their 498 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: violent rhetoric? And while we're on the topic of Hollywood 499 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: has beens? Kathy Griffin is at it again. 500 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 14: I'm just gonna say this and you can put my 501 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 14: tinfoil head on you ready? 502 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: I love it? 503 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Please, I Kathy. 504 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: Griffin, do not think that Donald won in a free 505 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 4: and fair election. 506 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: Oo. 507 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: It's a heart take degree degree. 508 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: You're going to laugh at the way she says, are 509 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: you ready? 510 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: As if it's the first time she said this, as 511 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: if it's the first time she's claimed that the twenty 512 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: twenty four election was rigged. 513 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard about it about a. 514 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: Thousand times, but she's got the old tinfoil hat on. 515 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: Now for the dumbest press secretary in history, Karen Jean Pierre. 516 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: Remember her, the woman who, along with everyone else, covered 517 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: up Joe Biden's mental decline. Well, sadly she's back on 518 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: TV and back doing what she does best, covering up 519 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's mental decline. 520 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 14: When we talk about the mental acuity, and again I 521 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 14: take this very very seriously. I never saw anyone who 522 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 14: wasn't there. I saw someone who was always engaged. 523 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? 524 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: She's still covering for him. The gas lighting is unbelievable. 525 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: She saw nothing, She saw none of this. 526 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: If your hole's near, and dear to you that you. 527 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 15: Like to be able to. 528 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 16: Anyway, No, in with. 529 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: With I don't know what. 530 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: I'll speaking of falling over? Why do the left just 531 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: fall over themselves? 532 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 15: They had ice agents break into their home in the 533 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 15: middle of the night, take them, take them to the 534 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 15: holding in Miami. We didn't know where they had gone. 535 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 9: You could give me some details about this. I would 536 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 9: love to bring attention to that. 537 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 15: No, I'm not going to bring attention to them. 538 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 9: Do you know their names? 539 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 16: Hi? 540 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 15: They're dear friends of ours and we're not. 541 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 9: I would love to help your friends if they've been 542 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 9: wrongfully detained in any way and they're not being even 543 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 9: given human decency down in Alligator Alcatraz, I would love 544 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 9: to help them. 545 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 15: We weren't down there. Okay, this is ten years ago. 546 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 15: Oh oh, this was ten years ago. Okay, so where 547 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 15: are they now? So that has nothing to do with 548 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 15: what Trump is doing? Well, no, it was less than 549 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 15: ten years whoops. 550 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: And that's one of my favorite segments, the crazed white 551 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: liberal Karens of America starting with this lunatic who just 552 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: wants to leave. 553 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: Well, doesn't daughter that eat like I'm not even today? 554 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, God, delightful. And there's just no 555 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: reasoning with them, is there? 556 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 10: And you. 557 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: An abuse. 558 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: Men can't control their emotions and abuse. 559 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 9: Excuse me, I'm andry, I mean ray, and I'm loud. 560 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: That's not emotional. 561 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 10: That's called being persistent and passionate and all. 562 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: They don't yell and said, that's not that's not emotional. 563 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: That's I want to say. I'm that's the one is 564 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: what makes you feel logical? And yeah, I've got to 565 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: give it to these Karens. They're always so triggered. You 566 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: get triggered because it has chorally on their own. He 567 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: was a racist because he was, and not me that 568 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: you was, wam, get out? 569 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 15: Do you hated people? It wasn't Street. 570 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky newsic contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. 571 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: Nice to see you, Thanks for joining me. 572 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: Let's start with Donald Trump's takedown of Kevin Rather have 573 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: a look where. 574 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 16: You said before, took his positions to prison. 575 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: But I don't like you either, Will. 576 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: It was quite a moment, Kosher. What's your reaction? What 577 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: do you make of it? 578 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 16: Oh, it certainly was quite a moment in na I 579 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 16: think you know, on so level it was sort of 580 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 16: a microcosm or metaphor, I should say, of the US 581 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 16: Australia relationship in a way so far under these two administrations, 582 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 16: in particular where he didn't even know or remember who 583 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 16: Kevin Rudd was, didn't know he was at the table. 584 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 16: It's been nine months until this meeting took place. So 585 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 16: it's just suggesting that, you know, there's a table and 586 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 16: Australia has not so far seemed to be at it, 587 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 16: but at least finally they are. I think the second 588 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 16: thing too, is politics is so performative. Everything is performative 589 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 16: from all the actors. But what's different about Trump and 590 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 16: what many people have found and daring about him, is 591 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 16: he just owns it. Like he's very happy to be performative, 592 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 16: play that role, have the cameras rolling in these meetings 593 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 16: and you know, be a truth teller. 594 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: And saying I don't like you. 595 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 16: I probably never will, but that's okay. We can still 596 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 16: do deals, we can still be allies, and we don't 597 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 16: have to pretend to like each other. 598 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: Well here's what the opposition later, Susan Ley said about 599 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: the future of Kevin Rodd following that exchange. Well, Kevin 600 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: Rudd really was the elephant in the room, Pate, and 601 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: it's a bit awkward. 602 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 10: Isn't it. 603 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 7: It's taken nearly a year to get this meeting and 604 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 7: that's been a failure of the ambassador. 605 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe he should stay in that role. 606 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 7: And to see the Prime Minister actually laughing at his 607 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 7: own ambassador in the room when the President made a joke. 608 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it's untenable. I mean, it was embarrassing. 609 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, kosher realistically, can Kevin run keep his role? 610 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Do you think? 611 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 16: You know many people have been saying he shouldn't have 612 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 16: been in it for the past nine months at all, 613 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 16: because he's had those public statements that he's later retracted 614 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 16: or withdrawn and that's out there forever. And is he 615 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 16: really that effective? And is somebody who on a deep 616 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 16: level seems to really dislike Trump effective? But Prime Minister 617 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 16: Albaniazi has decided to stand behind him. I think it 618 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 16: obviously makes a fair point. This is the opportunity for 619 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 16: the opposition to pounce on that because it was a 620 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 16: bit awkward. That would be the most charitable word for 621 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 16: the Prime Minister to laugh along with Trump at him. 622 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 16: For me, I thought Evian Rudd's facial expression gave it 623 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 16: away that he wasn't at all enjoying that laugh or 624 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 16: being laughed at by both of them. But he sort 625 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 16: of had to go through the ring of fire because 626 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 16: of the situation that he created. But for now, at least, 627 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 16: it sounds like he's staying put in that's seat in 628 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 16: that rule. 629 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 7: Well. 630 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we all thought maybe Albo might get the 631 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: dressing down. Little did we know it would be Kevin 632 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: right on the opposite end of the table. But yeah, 633 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: certainly fascinating scenes. But let's talk about the meeting itself. 634 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: How did Anthony Albaneze do? Did he get the right result? 635 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this was a long time coming. There's been 636 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: so much anticipation building up to it. It appears the 637 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: orcat steel is safe. That must be seen as a win. 638 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 16: Yes, And I think just the point you made just 639 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 16: before that because a good one. Maybe that's why he 640 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 16: brought Kevin Rud out the table to sort of create 641 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 16: a diversion and let Kevin Rud be the magnet that 642 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 16: sucks the iro out of Trump and giving him some 643 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 16: clean space to do what he needs to do policy wise. 644 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 16: I think getting the enthusiastic reaffirmation of ocus is a 645 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 16: good thing. There's reportedly some ironing out of the framework 646 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 16: that is still going to happen, but in general Trump 647 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 16: did take a dig at at Biden, as he often does, 648 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 16: for being very slow to move, and he says he's 649 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 16: actually going to accelerate it and be on track to 650 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 16: get the sub submarines by the deadline of twenty thirty. 651 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 16: And then the other big thing was the minerals deal. 652 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 16: That is something that is really picking up a lot 653 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 16: of heat in the global trade war between the US 654 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 16: and China, and Australia does have a pivotal role in 655 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 16: that as well. So I think those two things, it 656 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 16: does look like the Prime Minister seems to have walked 657 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 16: away with a stronger position and more clarity about where 658 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 16: there's a common ground and shared roles. That the common 659 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 16: ground that we can find between both countries and a 660 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 16: shared role that we can both countries can play for 661 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 16: mutual better interests, and hopefully that stays on track. 662 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: And just before we move on to other topics, I 663 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: want to ask you about this critical minerals deal that's 664 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: been signed by Australia and the US. It's worth thirteen 665 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 3: billion dollars. What does this mean for US? 666 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 16: You know, the biggest value that I think Australia brings 667 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 16: in general to the alliance right now, but specifically for 668 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 16: what Trump is keedan on, and that is his trade 669 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 16: war with China is geographic proximity to China, and then 670 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 16: also these critical minerals, because there is an escalating trade 671 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 16: war going on right now, and China has over the 672 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 16: past couple of decades and more really been locking up 673 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 16: rare minerals from other countries around the world, and the 674 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 16: US and President Trump really has taken note of that, 675 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 16: and Australia provides counterbalance to that, a meaningful one. So 676 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 16: the value of it trickling right into the Australian economy 677 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 16: is a good thing. Having the rare earth minerals is 678 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 16: one thing, but being able to refine it and actually 679 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 16: develop it is sophisticated manufacturing that this steel hopefully would 680 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 16: undergird some sort of further partnership between the US and Australia. 681 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 16: And it also really is just a counterweight and a 682 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 16: deterrent to China strategy in this category. 683 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely well, finally got the mating and it's 684 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: been a fascinating twenty four hours in Washington, that's for sure. 685 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: Let's move on because a court has ruled that Donald 686 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: Trump can deploy Oregon National Guard troops into the city 687 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: of Portland. 688 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: Now, look, this has been interesting. Came to get your 689 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: views on how big of a win. 690 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: Is this because there's been a lot of setbacks in 691 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's efforts to crack down on crime in parts 692 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: of America. 693 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: This has gone to court. The Court of Appeals has 694 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: now got no go for it. But does it set 695 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: a standard. 696 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 16: It certainly sets a good winning precedent for the Trump administration. 697 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 16: The other side very well may appeal it up to 698 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 16: the Supreme Court, and they'll obviously have the final say, 699 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 16: but they are largely expected to uphold this ruling. And 700 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 16: in other cases where other circuits and appeals courts have 701 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 16: ruled in the reverse and the opposite effect, those are 702 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 16: making their way up to the Supreme Court as well. 703 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 16: And there's the expectation is that the Supreme Court will 704 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 16: again rule in Trump the Trump Administration's favor. Because again, 705 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 16: while there is sovereignty and we like that in the 706 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 16: US and states have their own sovereign rights, the whole 707 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 16: thing that the Trump administration is anchoring this on is 708 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 16: they're going there to provide back up. The National Guard 709 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 16: is going to provide backup to ICE. So ICE is 710 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 16: allowed to go and find these the illegals and conduct 711 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 16: their mass deportation operations if they're being attacked, which they 712 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 16: are day in and day out. The National Guard and 713 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 16: whoever else the federal government wants to deploy to protect 714 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 16: ICE agents, they are allowed to do. So that's what 715 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 16: this ruling says. It's a very important precedent and hopefully 716 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 16: we see that ripple effect come out in the other circuits. 717 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely, Now Senate Democrats have again blocked the 718 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: Republicans planned to reopen the government for an eleventh time. Look, Kosher, 719 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: this is just getting ridiculous. Now the shutdown's nearing its 720 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 3: fourth week. There just appears to be no end in sight. 721 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: What is it going to take? 722 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 16: Do you think, indeed this is an impasse? It's just 723 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 16: a few days shy of the longest shutdown in history, 724 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 16: which was in Trump's first term thirty five days. I 725 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 16: think we're injurin close to that benchmark. And this time 726 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 16: though it is different compared to last time, where ultimately 727 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 16: it was Trump that caved. Is that this time the 728 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 16: one big beautiful bill that was passed before we got 729 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 16: to the shutdown point already has funded Trump's agenda by 730 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 16: and large, all the mass deportation efforts that we just discussed, 731 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 16: other things relating to the wall, cutting funding for illegals 732 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 16: that are taking up public welfare programs, things like that 733 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 16: that are very popular. He's got all of that squared away, 734 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 16: which puts him in a position to really. 735 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: Play hardball on this. 736 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 16: Yes, the right side of the aisle, and the Republicans 737 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 16: will pay a little bit of a price politically when 738 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 16: certain things start to not function properly as the shutdown 739 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 16: drags on, But most of those things that the American 740 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 16: people support, he's got locked away. This politically puts the 741 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 16: other side, the Democrats, in a very tough light. And 742 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 16: I don't think it's going to be the Trump administration 743 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 16: that's going to cave this time. It's going to be 744 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 16: the Democrats. The sticking point is health care for illegals. 745 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 16: That is a red line that Team Trump has drawn, 746 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 16: and it's going to take them to capitulate on that. 747 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 16: The Democrats capitulating on that is what it'll take to 748 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 16: finally break this impasse. 749 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the DEM's demands have just been absolutely 750 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: ridiculous from the beginning. But the interesting thing is is 751 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: that this shutdown has not even harmed President Trump's public support. 752 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: In fact, his approval rating has increased. 753 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 17: Have a look at this about Donald Trump shutdowns net 754 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 17: approval rating. We're talking twenty days into it. In twenty 755 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 17: eighteen slash twenty nineteen, Donald Trump's not approprating was already falling. 756 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 17: The shutdown was eating in. It was popular support. It 757 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 17: was down three points already at this particular point and 758 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 17: would fall considerably more. It was very much on the decline. 759 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 17: You come over to this side of the screen, this 760 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 17: shutdown hasn't eaten and the Donald Trump support at all 761 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 17: isn't That approval rating is actually up a point and 762 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 17: in terms of in terms of his popular support. 763 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Kosher it seems as though it's backfired for the Democrats. 764 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 16: I think the foundational point is is that Trump actually 765 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 16: is not as hated as he was then. He still 766 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 16: is hated by many many people, but. 767 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: A little bit less so. 768 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 16: He is actually more popular than he was the first 769 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 16: time around for many reasons. Second is, on this issue, specifically, 770 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 16: the lynchpin that we talked about where coming down to 771 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 16: illegals and should they be beneficiaries of free health care not. 772 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 16: That's sort of the sticking point. The country and the 773 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 16: electorate has completely shifted in the last ten years on 774 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 16: this issue. They are in support of mass deportations, certainly 775 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 16: the violent criminal illegals, but even the rest of them, 776 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 16: and not continuing to give welfare handouts and hard earned 777 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 16: taxpayer American tax payer money to illegals, even if they're 778 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 16: quote unquote good people. You come in the country and 779 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 16: stay illegally, you should not be getting access to welfare. 780 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 16: So that issue, the Trump team has done a really 781 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 16: good job, I think of reframing it and people sort 782 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 16: of get that the branding on the other side is 783 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 16: a Schumer shutdown, and just the way they've been behaving 784 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 16: in the fact that they are at an all time 785 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 16: low electorally, politically, in the court of public opinion and 786 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 16: everything else, is helping sort of boostop Trump in this 787 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 16: fight as it continues. 788 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, no doubt about it now. I thought that's 789 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: what was interesting. 790 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: The New York Post editorial board has called for Republican 791 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 3: New York City mayoral candidate Curtis see Why to quit 792 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 3: to stop Zoran ma'am Dani and It comes as a 793 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: new poll has found that the Democratic nominee Ma'am Danni 794 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: maintains a comfortable lead in the race, Kosha, as he 795 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: has for some time. Do you see see why actually 796 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: pulling the pin realistically now, this is. 797 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 16: Really really tough one. And I don't envy his position 798 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 16: because what they're asking the New York Post on others 799 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 16: is for Curtisiola to be a tragic hero in this 800 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 16: really because he's pulling at around fifteen to twenty percent. 801 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 16: That's actually pretty strong for a Republican candidate these days 802 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 16: in New York, and that is cannibalizing the vote between 803 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 16: the other two, and with Cuomo is fifteen to twenty 804 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 16: points that same difference basically behind mam Dani. So theoretically, 805 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 16: if he pulls out, it puts Cuomo in, giving him 806 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 16: a fighting chance to possibly win. However, not everybody who 807 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 16: right now is supporting Silva is going to flow over 808 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 16: to Cuomo. 809 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: He is not exactly the. 810 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 16: Most favor sympathetic figure in general. A lot of people 811 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 16: are still very angry with how he mishandled COVID, among 812 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 16: other things. He himself, Cuomo is not as strong as 813 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 16: he was in the prime of his career, so it 814 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 16: really is a lesser of the two evils issue. I 815 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 16: don't know if he's going to do it or not. 816 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 16: The pressure is on for him, but even if he 817 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 16: does it, it'll certainly tighten the race. But even with that, 818 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 16: it just really looks like this is mum Daney's unfortunately 819 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 16: to win. 820 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Unfortunately. 821 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 3: Gosh, you know, I just don't even know what to say, 822 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: to be honest, when it comes to that bloke. 823 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: It's extraordinary that he is ahead in the polls. 824 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 3: Before we let you go, let's talk about Bernie Sanders. 825 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: He's gone on the view saying that the Democratic Party 826 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: needs to make a fundamental decision about what they stand for. 827 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: Have a listen. 828 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 18: I think that Trump won a lot of working class people, 829 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 18: not because they wanted tax breaks for billionaires, not because 830 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 18: they wanted to throw fifteen million people off the healthcare 831 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 18: they have or double health insurance premiums. That is not 832 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 18: why working class people voted for Trump. I think they 833 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 18: voted for Trump because they look at the Democrats and 834 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 18: they said, what do you stand for? What side do 835 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 18: you want? 836 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: Is he right kosher? 837 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 16: You know, he is trying to return to his roots 838 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 16: there he was the og from the Democrat Party when yes, 839 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 16: they were the party of the working class. Like now, 840 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 16: it seems like a lifetime ago, and he was the 841 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 16: best representative of that. But he missed his moment. His 842 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 16: moment was in twenty sixteen where he absolutely was organically 843 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 16: giving Hillary Clinton a run for her money. He beat 844 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 16: her in the Michigan primaries in terms of the organic 845 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 16: support and other parts of the rust belt, but then 846 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 16: because of the weird super delegate system that the democratcrats have, 847 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 16: she was still able to lock up the nomination, and 848 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 16: when the moment really mattered, he rolled over folded like 849 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 16: a cheap tent. And because of that, he no longer 850 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 16: has credibility on this issue, even though he once did so. 851 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 16: He's right in the diagnosis of the issue, but he 852 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 16: has no credibility. He's not the spokesperson for it, and 853 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 16: I don't know who is in the Democrat Party anymore. 854 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 16: They've left that era behind that he's talking of. They 855 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 16: absolutely are viewed as the party of billionaires. One billionaire 856 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 16: after another very much supports the Democrats. You've sort of 857 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 16: got elon mass can me be Zuckerberg and Bezos in 858 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 16: recent times begrudgingly pulling away. But by and large that 859 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 16: that ship that he's talked about has sealed, they can 860 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 16: figure out how to come back to that. I think 861 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 16: it'll be better for the country to actually have both 862 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 16: parties caring about the working class and maybe differing a 863 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 16: little bit on the margins of the policy and the 864 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 16: solutions for serving them. But that is not where the 865 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 16: Democrats are right now. 866 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: No, very clearly not Koshergarda. Good to see thanks very 867 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 3: much for joining me. 868 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 4: Thank you. 869 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: Still to come. The tolerant left strikes again. 870 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 3: Comedian Alex Stein is assaulted at a No King's protest 871 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: in the US. 872 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: He'll tell us what happened. That's next. 873 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 3: Joining me now is comedian and host of Primetime with 874 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Blaze TV. 875 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: Alex Stein himself. Good to see you. 876 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 3: Thanks very much for joining me. We spoke earlier in 877 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 3: the show about the No Kings protests. 878 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Now you went to the. 879 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 3: One in Dallas where you were actually assaulted by the protesters. 880 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Have a look at this. 881 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: Assaulted oh by. 882 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 15: Charley Yet. 883 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: Alex, take us through what happened. 884 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 10: Well, you know, this is a unique protest. This is 885 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 10: the No Kings protest, and this is the second iteration 886 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 10: of this protest. And I even though the mainstream media 887 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 10: did get caught sharing fake images of this event, you know, 888 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 10: trying to make it seem like there was millions and 889 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 10: millions of people there, there were still lots of people. 890 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 10: And I was in Dallas and basically I was just 891 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 10: trying to fit in. And what happened was is there 892 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 10: was another kid that was there that was wearing a 893 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 10: Maga hat, and once they started to kind of attack him, 894 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 10: I stepped in and that made me a target. And 895 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 10: you know, as you saw in the video, once they 896 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 10: realized who I was and that I was right leaning, 897 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 10: I became an enemy and I felt like a piece 898 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 10: of meat with a bunch of abid dogs all trying 899 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 10: to get a bite. 900 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean it really did feel like that. 901 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just all so pathetic, seriously, And I 902 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: want to show our viewer was another clip of you 903 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: at the protest. 904 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 16: Have a look. 905 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: So they were chanting shame Alex, and I've got to 906 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 3: say it reminded me of this from Game of Thrones. 907 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: Shame shame, shame sheme sheme, Yeah, shame on you, Alex. 908 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: You had your own Game of Thrones moment. 909 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: But you know, what does it say about the tolerant 910 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: left that we hear all about. 911 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's funny that you actually use the 912 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 10: Game of Thrones reference, because not only were there tons 913 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 10: of Game of Thrones people yelling shame tale, I saw 914 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 10: ten different people and the Handmaid's tales. So that's really 915 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 10: what's going on is we have a lot of people 916 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 10: that are just live action role playing LARPing activists. They 917 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 10: really don't even care about the cause that they're so 918 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 10: mad and up. 919 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: In arms about. 920 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 10: So when you look at these people, I really kind 921 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 10: of look at a lost bunch looking for a path, 922 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 10: looking for a direction, And once again they realized that 923 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 10: I wasn't there on their side, so I became the target. 924 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 10: Even though they didn't talk to me, they didn't want 925 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 10: to have a conversation. They immediately want to start throwing 926 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 10: water and attacking. So I feel bad that the left 927 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 10: is so impulsive and out of touch with the reality. 928 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 10: And I think that's why this whole protest happened. No kings, 929 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 10: We're in America. We don't have kings. Why are we 930 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 10: protesting against kings? It just shows you, even the protests, 931 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 10: the biggest protest that we had this year literally makes 932 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 10: no sense out of context. No Kings, biggest protests in America. 933 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 4: We don't have kings. 934 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 10: Why are they even wasting their time protesting? 935 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 17: No? 936 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: And when you ask them why, they have no idea themselves. 937 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 3: They've got nothing to say. Now, look at video of 938 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: a woman mocking the death of Charlie Kirk at one 939 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 3: of the protests has gone viral over the weekend. 940 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: Have a look. Hey, you never heard? 941 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: This is just disgusting, Alex. 942 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 3: She's been identified as a school teacher in Chicago. 943 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: Should she lose her job? 944 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 10: You know, this is a tricky situation because I'm out 945 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 10: right now, I'm outside of normal Illinois. I just got 946 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 10: to speak at Illinois State University where there's a viral 947 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 10: story this this Friday, and the actual teacher's assistant came 948 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 10: over to the booth, the turning porn booth and knocked 949 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 10: over the table, and that teacher ended up getting arrested 950 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 10: and he lost his job. Now, in a way, I'm 951 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 10: happy that he lost his job, but I never like 952 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 10: it when somebody loses their job. So, but this woman, 953 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 10: I don't really want her to lose her job, But 954 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 10: should she lose her job. Yes, I think she should 955 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 10: lose her job for making that sort of threat. Considering 956 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 10: that she is teaching young children. So you know, if 957 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 10: she was, like, you know, maybe a bus driver or something, 958 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 10: you know, maybe she could keep her job with the 959 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 10: fact that she's a teacher. Personally, I don't like when 960 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 10: anybody loses their job, but she really shouldn't. 961 00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 4: Probably keep her. 962 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, look, that's a fair point that you make. Now, 963 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was among Democrats 964 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 3: and Trump critics. 965 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: They're having a real winge Alex. 966 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: At a satirical AI video that the President posted showing 967 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: him dropping brown sludge on No King's protesters. 968 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: Have a look. 969 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was brilliant, alex I loved it. Well, 970 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 3: where are the where is a sense of humor from 971 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 3: the left? They've got nothing. 972 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 10: No, you're exactly right. 973 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: And obviously this is a joke. 974 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 10: Anybody that's taking it serious, Like there are people that 975 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 10: are like, oh, Donald Trump really wants to bomb us. 976 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 10: I mean, this is how out of touch with the 977 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 10: reality these people. I know, I keep saying that, but 978 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 10: that's kind of like where we're at is one people 979 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 10: believes in a real that and other people don't believe 980 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 10: is real. So when you see a video like this, 981 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 10: I can only laugh because Donald Trump has the best 982 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 10: sense of humor of any elected politician in my lifetime, 983 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 10: or probably anybody's lifetime for that matter. 984 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 1: So when I see videos like this, I laugh. 985 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 10: But at the same exact time though, Donald Trump and AI, 986 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 10: you know, he's probably going crazy. I can't imagine the 987 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 10: creative stuff that Donald Trump is going to come up 988 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 10: with AI, So I would not want to be one 989 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 10: of Donald Trump's enemies, with him having the keys to 990 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 10: the digital castle and he created anything else. 991 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: They's they's out there annihilating his keyboard. He's having way 992 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: too much fun with this, and we're enjoying it as well. Now, 993 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 3: look at Illinois State University teaching assistant's been fired after 994 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 3: he was captured on video flipping a turning Point USA 995 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 3: table which had actually been promoting an upcoming appearance by yourself. 996 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: Have a look at this. 997 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 2: Jesus did it so you know I gotta do it. 998 00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, have a great thing. 999 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: How did this get covered? 1000 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 4: So sad? Oh? 1001 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, Alex, what can I say? It looks like you 1002 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: will get the last laugh. 1003 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 10: Yes, sadly, Derek Lopez is still in jail, and you know, 1004 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 10: I never like it when somebody's in jail, but I 1005 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 10: wish he could have been out of jail because I 1006 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 10: would have loved for him to come to the event. 1007 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 10: There's only three protesters at it. We had hundreds of 1008 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 10: Turning Point USA kids there. So in the end, everything 1009 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 10: that he did only brought more positive attention to Turning Points. 1010 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 10: So I honestly feel bad for the guy. And on 1011 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 10: top of that, he lost his job, so he's not 1012 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 10: doing too well today. So I think that's kind of 1013 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 10: a we can all learn a lesson. Sometimes when you're 1014 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 10: impulsive and you react without thinking, there's serious consequences, and 1015 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 10: sadly he had to face those consequences and the event was, 1016 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 10: you know, it was a total success. So at the 1017 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 10: end of the day, you got to pick your battles, 1018 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 10: pick the ones you can win. 1019 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Alex side not to say it was always good 1020 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 3: to catch up. Thanks very much for your me on 1021 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: the show. Appreciate it. 1022 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 10: Always a pleasure. Thank you for having me. 1023 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: And that's it for me. Up next to News Night, 1024 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: Good Night,