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Speaker 1: A warning before we start. This episode contains serious allegations

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Speaker 1: of physical assault and murder from The Australian. Here's what's

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Speaker 1: on the front. I'm Christinamiot. It's Friday, July twelve. A

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Speaker 1: woman whose visa was canceled by Immigration Minister Andrew Giles

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Speaker 1: under the flawed Direction ninety nine will appeal the decision

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Speaker 1: in the Federal Court. It could be a huge legal

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Speaker 1: headache for the government if more foreign criminals caught up

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Speaker 1: in the immigration bungle take their cases to court. That

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Speaker 1: exclusive story by Brihannon Down is live right now at

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Speaker 1: The Australian dot com dot a U. A twenty eight

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Speaker 1: year old man was charged with three counts of domestic

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Speaker 1: violence related murder on Thursday after a fire at his

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Speaker 1: home in Western Sydney killed two boys aged six and

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Speaker 1: two and a five month old baby. The man was

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Speaker 1: also charged with five counts of attempted murder relating to

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Speaker 1: his partner and four other children, who escaped the inferno

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Speaker 1: with the help of a neighbor. The ex wife of

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Speaker 1: John Winfield told police the Lenox Head bricklayer choked and

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Speaker 1: threatened to kill her. That's a stunning allegation made In

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Speaker 1: the latest installment of an investigation into the disappearance of

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Speaker 1: Winfield's third wife, Bronwyn in nineteen ninety three, John Winfield

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Speaker 1: has denied all wrongdoing. We'll have more on that later.

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Speaker 1: In the episode first up, the podcast series by National

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Speaker 1: Chief correspondent Headley Thomas dives deep in search of the

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Speaker 1: missing lennox Head Mum Lake Ainsworth on the New South

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Speaker 1: Wales North coast. The Tea Tree Lake is a literal

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Speaker 1: stones throw from Lennox Head's famed seven Mile Beach on

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Speaker 1: its eastern edge. It's here that the road ends, and

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Speaker 1: passage between the two is only possible on foot. It's

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Speaker 1: twelve hectares or about twenty football fields of deep, dark

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Speaker 1: fresh water, stained by tannets from the paper bark trees

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Speaker 1: tourists pull up stumps, swimming and barbecuing their way through

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Speaker 1: long summer days. And it's here, in this deep still

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Speaker 1: water that some friends and family believe Bronwyn Winfield's body

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Speaker 1: has been hidden for thirty one years. Bronwyn Winfield vanished

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Speaker 1: from her home on Sandstone Cresset in lennox Head on

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Speaker 1: the evening of May sixteenth, nineteen ninety three. On that night,

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Speaker 1: it all for a couple of days. Then, he says,

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Speaker 1: John Winfield has denied all wrongdoing. Bron Win Winfield's mysterious

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Speaker 1: Australian's National Chief correspondent Headley Thomas. In that series, Bronwin's

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Speaker 1: loved ones have voiced their grave concerns about what they

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Speaker 2: With the shortest route if you're looking for a body

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Speaker 1: That's Bronwyn Winfield's brother, Andy Reid. He was joined by

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Speaker 3: The street on the right hand side of the lake,

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Speaker 4: What's the function of the surfboard.

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Speaker 2: To be able to take there out to the center

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Speaker 1: Lake Ainsworth is about seven minutes drive from Sandstone Crescent,

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Speaker 1: others believe it's plausible Bronwin Winfield met with foul play

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Speaker 1: sometime after her children went to bed, and that her

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Speaker 2: Swim all the way out out to the middle. She

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible thing to be thinking of. That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Ronman's cousin, Madison Walsh, has just completed a degree in

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Speaker 1: She's been assisting Heady with this investigation into the disappearance

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Speaker 5: happily die if we find something and the police aren't

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Speaker 1: And so off they went. On a windy weekend in

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Speaker 1: early July, Headley, Maddie and a contingent of search and

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Speaker 1: rescue experts, including a former Australian Navy captain, traveled to

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Speaker 1: In some intriguing discoveries were made, like a brick pulled

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Speaker 6: Rapairs is potentially something I'd like to larger than than

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Speaker 4: Well, this was a very different type of search because

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Speaker 4: the police had no connection to this.

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Speaker 1: creator of the investigative podcast Bronwyn.

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Speaker 4: It was really conducted by volunteers, Solely volunteers who had

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Speaker 4: specialized training. We had Ash mc donald, a very highly

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Speaker 4: trained scuba diver, former Australian Navy captain, and Chris Darcy

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Speaker 4: terrain and underwater. He has site Scancena and he also

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Speaker 4: has cadaverdocs and they gave their time, their equipment. They

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Speaker 4: And this is the lake that is very close to

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Speaker 4: the beach north of Lenox. It's loved by the locals

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Speaker 4: and it was a popular place for Bromwin and John

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Speaker 4: two when they lived together in Lenox. It must have

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Speaker 4: been a really difficult time for Andy. He'd come up

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Speaker 4: also I think joining in what was a really positive

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Speaker 4: community spirit. People came down to see what we were doing.

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Speaker 4: Friends of Bromwin, people who have been featured in the podcast,

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Speaker 4: looking for Bromman's body. That's what Andy wanted to find.

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Speaker 4: And he said at one point, you know, wouldn't it

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Speaker 4: just be remarkable if I went out on the boat

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Speaker 4: with Chris and found my own sister's body.

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Speaker 7: There's been a development in a suspected murder of New

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Speaker 7: South Wales mother bronwyn Winfield more than three decades ago.

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Speaker 7: A witness account which was previously dismissed, is now being

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Speaker 1: Headley Thomas's investigative podcast series into the disappearance of Lennox

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Speaker 1: head mother Bronwin Winfield has advanced her case in leaps

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Speaker 1: in those early days when Bronwyn Winfield was being treated

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Speaker 8: I could see directly into the car and I saw

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Speaker 8: what looked to be like a mummy in the back

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Speaker 8: late at night with you know something that looked like

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Speaker 8: I just called it a mummy and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: In the weeks since that episode was released, police have

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Speaker 1: ground near Sandstone Crescent in order to finally understand what

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Speaker 1: and still the revelations are coming. Episode ten of Bronwyn

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Speaker 1: released for the Australian subscribers on Thursday revealed disturbing allegations

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Speaker 1: made by John Winfield's ex wife about their relationship. Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Mason married John Winfield when she was a teenager, after

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Speaker 1: falling pregnant with his child in early nineteen seventy four.

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Speaker 1: In a statement to police made in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: into Bronwin Winfield's disappearance, Jenny Mason claimed she was scared

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Speaker 1: When Headley first began work on Bronwin he believed the

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Speaker 1: series would comprise six, maybe eight episodes, but now there

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Speaker 1: ran all the scripts back to back, you'd have enough

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Speaker 4: Something remarkable has happened. During the eight weeks we've been

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Speaker 4: of the public. Friends and acquaintances of Bronwyn and John

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Speaker 4: very significant. Our Facebook group, the Bromwyn Podcast Official Discussion Group,

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Speaker 4: has become a lively exercise in crowdsolving, with listeners constructively

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Speaker 4: putting together maps and timelines to try to work out

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Speaker 4: what might have happened. As a result, the narrative arc

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Speaker 4: of the Bromwyn series has changed fundamentally. One of the

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Speaker 4: key reasons this investigative podcast began was because I believe

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Speaker 4: Bromwyn's disappearance and alleged murder could still be old This

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Speaker 4: belief has only grown stronger as the series has unfolded.

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Speaker 1: creator of the investigative podcast bron Win. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the front this week. Our team is Claire Harvey,

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Speaker 1: Jasper leik Leat Sammagloo, Josh Burton, Matthew Condon, Tiffany Dimmack

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Speaker 1: and me Kristen amiet