WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 12 June 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.120 From the Skyinging Center. 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.559 This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.440 Happy Wednesday. Thank you very much for watching. Lots to 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.119 get to so let us begin now. Australia is, of 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.200 course a diverse country. I know people like Laura Tingle 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.119 think that it's mostly white people who are afraid of 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.840 the odd different person that is around, but of course 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:22.320 we all know that there are lots of people from 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.320 lots of different places. All you have to do is 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.040 look at the census. The census, of course a couple 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.479 of years old, but still the most obvious numbers that 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.280 we have twenty six million people in the country. Eighteen 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.199 and a half million people are born in Australia. There 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.360 are eight zero point two million people that are born overseas. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.120 As you can see here when we compare things from 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:46.080 twenty thirteen and twenty twenty three, the bell curve is 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.480 pretty much the same. But the countries of which people 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.760 come from most are England, India, and as you can see, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.600 the Orange, which is the more recent number, way higher 0:00:55.640 --> 0:01:01.640 than previous times, as is things like China, Music, Philippines, Vietnam, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.120 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.080 But on top of that, of course. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:10.880 There is a far bigger diaspora, which is the number 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.720 of people whose parents were born overseas and how many 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.679 year agon that is, well, I can tell you it's 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.440 about half. About half of all of Australia has a 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.800 parent at least one that was born overseas. This sense 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.480 has found that forty eight point two percent of the 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.080 population continues to be drawn from around the globe, with 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.080 twenty six percent of people reporting the birthplace as overseas. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.000 But the connection back to it is what we're talking 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.520 about now. Obviously, as people come from lots of different places, 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.720 they bring with them a change in the mix of 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:48.760 the people who believe in their version of God. Now 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.200 in Australia, traditionally it has been in modern times Christianity, 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.120 which has been the number one faith in the country, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.200 and it does remain that way, but it is not 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.880 the majority of the population is certainly the majority of 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.160 those who believe in Oh God. Islam is now three 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.600 point two percent of the population, Hinduism is two point seven, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.880 Buddhism two point seven, Judaism is in and around that 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:12.400 number as well. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.799 And the number of people who don't believe in any 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:14.799 religion at all. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.560 And you know I am amongst them, but I have 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.480 no respect towards people of faith. I just think it's 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.239 important for me to be honest with you. Is thirty 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.160 eight and a bit percent. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.120 Now LEFTI is. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.680 Of course, they cheer on this number, desperately hoping that 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.200 there's one day where the none of the above eventually 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.040 gets to fifty percent and they're no longer what will 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.720 we have to hear about Judeo Christian values, et cetera, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.640 et cetera. But of course from whence people come and 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.600 what they believe in does form their belief system for 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:48.359 obvious reasons. But today we learn yet again that there 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.120 are people amongst us who would like faith to become 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.600 an even bigger issue in our politics. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.200 There are multiple groups. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.760 And this one in particular, who would like to get 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:05.679 the Australian Muslim community to start using their political power 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.960 to get what they want in terms of foreign policy, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.560 which in this case would be no support for Israel 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.400 and for that to be in return for their vote. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.600 And while the number may be small in terms of 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.799 the entire country, in obvious pockets of the country, the 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.880 number of people of the Islamic faith is higher than 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:31.000 it has ever been so Muslim votes matter is one 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.160 of the many different websites or movements that are trying 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.840 to suggest that one's faith should also start to. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.760 Affect the way one votes. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.200 Now, this group say that their collective voting block is 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.360 the most valuable and underutilized asset that they have, and 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.000 they claim that there's twenty seats in particular where the 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.200 numbers are significant enough to determine who ultimately ends up 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.840 winning the seats. Now, articles about this phenomenon tell us 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.520 that according to Bureau statistics, twenty nine of one hundred 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.800 and fifty one federal electorates have five percent. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.120 Or more of the Islamic. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.320 Vote faith, I should say, and basically all of those 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.120 are now held by Labour Party people. Now the twenty 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.360 nine seats, sixteen of those seats are held by the 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.159 Labour Party on margins of ten percent or more, and 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.719 the previous election it had suffered primary vote swings against 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.719 it of up to eighteen percent. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.040 Now, of course, we saw when traditional. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.560 Labor Party seats weren't getting the vote that they expected 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.120 in places like Cabramatta in Sydney's West Fairfield in and 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.120 around the area, that of course they thought they could 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:47.119 just drop the American lady from Scotland, Ireland on top 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:52.520 of the population of the seat of Fowler, and locals 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.279 like Dae Lee said no. So the Labor Party got 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.520 the shock of its life. It was no longer able 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.520 to just tell local communities who their local representative would 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.320 be from central office of the Labor Party. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.240 This movement is an extension in and of that. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.599 Writing about it today in the Australian newspaper, they spoke 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.800 to a series of not necessarily Islamic political leaders, but 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.960 certainly prominent Islamic figures in Western Sydney, including a bloke 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.800 from I think the Lebanese Muslim Association, who said that 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.360 this whole effort could be revolutionary. Our community is nuanced. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.040 It's filled with second and third generation migrants. Hence why 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.520 I was talking there not just about where people were born, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.680 but where their parents or their grandparents were born. And 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.760 that is expected to be a backlash against Labour because 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:47.599 they haven't come up against Israel enough. The community leader, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.279 doctor Jamal Riffe, has also said that although most elections 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.120 will fought over the economy, the next one will have 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.560 a greater emphasis on foreign policy, namely. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.880 Of course, the conflict. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.279 Now you've heard a couple of other people talk about 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.560 this tonight, and rightly so. That the idea of our 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.880 foreign policy determining who you would hire to be the 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.919 government for the next three years is a big change 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.000 in our politics. But there is something on top of 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.039 all of this that we are always fascinated by. And 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:24.120 as Australia changes, and as certain parts of Australia become 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.520 like the more like the people who'd been born in 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.480 other countries, and again this is happening all over the country, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.560 well then surely at some point in time those communities 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.280 are going to expect that the local politician ends up 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.640 being somebody who looks like them, thinks like them, and 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:46.279 believes like them. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that we're 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.400 talking about a search for the ethnicity of a electorate 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:56.200 and then automatically a group of one former nationality will 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.839 end up voting in one particular way, because of course 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:04.080 that would be racist. Why because just like white people, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:09.240 indigenous people, Chinese people, gay people, trans community, whatever, everyone 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.880 doesn't think the same thing as everyone else in their 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.440 neighborhood or their likeness. But this phenomena is going to 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.760 be fascinating to watch of all of the many things 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.080 that will be fascinating about the next election. If the 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.200 assumption is that the Labor Party is going to be 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.080 playing a game between majority and minority, and the assumption 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.040 at this point in time is that there's not going 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.680 to be a change of government. After the example that 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.760 have been set by the people of Fowler and the 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.560 largely Vietnamese community, will other communities around the country start 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:45.760 to mobilize around other issues. And it's a challenge for 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.960 those of us that talk about politics all day every 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.760 day because largely much of the media that talks about 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.640 politics is blind to what is actually happening in diverse communities. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.240 It's why news organizations like SBS are quite important to 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.640 us to get a better understanding when people of the 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.320 community are able to report on the community now. In 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.840 the olden days, the way that people were able to 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.320 send a message to particular ethnic communities was to have 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.440 a good relationship with the local editor of the local 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.200 language newspaper. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.000 But now things are very different. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.960 As we saw in the last federal election that a 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.360 huge number of Chinese voters did not like the attitude 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.800 that the federal government had previously taken to challenging China. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.120 By their own admissions, one of the many sources of 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.120 news that they are receiving is through things like wei Chat. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.800 We Chat, as has been reported by many organizations here 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.240 in Australia, ends up pushing much of the media that 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.400 comes out of China, which of course is controlled by 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.559 the Chinese government. Other reporting suggests that much of the 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.400 ethnic media in relation to the Chinese community in Australia 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.160 again has some connection back to the overlords in Beijing. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.520 It doesn't mean that these voters are stupid, and I 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.840 don't want anyone to deliberately misinterpret it, run off to 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.560 some umpire and say I'm saying something racist. No, what 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.559 I'm talking about is a genuine conversation that those of 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.400 us who claim to know what's going on in the 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.640 world of politics need to start to open our eyes to, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.320 which is a diaspora of people who won't just vote 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.040 labor because they always have, or just vote liberal like 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.680 they always have. In fact, the Chinese community is a 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.520 perfect example about this. Largely Chinese voters were able to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.160 send Liberal Party MPs at say the twenty ten, thirteen 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.360 and sixteen election. They voted for Scott Morrison, in twenty nineteen, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.120 but then there was a big change, a very obvious change. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.200 So this is just a way of me saying that 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.160 we're going to do the best that we can to 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.640 keep an eye on the types of messages that are 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.120 floating out in the community that have nothing to do 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.480 with the traditional media that you see and we watch 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.240 and we listen to. And I need your help with this. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.120 If you see things that are interesting that you think 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:08.640 attempts to influence people based through race or through faith, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.760 I just love to see it. I'd just love to 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.160 see the types of messages that are going on because, frankly, 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.040 it's the media that most of us are not seen, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.959 but increasingly, with half of the country having parents born 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.400 overseas and more people than ever before speaking languages other 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:28.080 than English at home, the reality is the question is 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.400 for people like the Liberal Party trying to gain votes 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.880 or the Labor Party trying to hold on to. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.199 Votes, how do they communicate with these groups? 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.080 Who are the people making the ads, Are they redubbing 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.080 things or are they changing the messages? Again, if you 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.760 find examples and you can tell me what's really going on, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.400 I'd just be fascinated. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.959 To learn about all of this. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.760 I'm not skeptical of it because the reality is, if 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.839 you and I had gone to a country where we 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.760 were speaking the at times minority language, or were from 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.240 a minority culture, where we would obviously see gat news 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.600 from Australia via sources like skynews dot com dot Au, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.560 we'd be trying to read the newspapers online that we 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.640 were reading when we were living here. So it's no 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.480 different than people in reverse in parts of our community. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.760 So if you find examples of this stuff, I'd be 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:16.600 fascinated to know. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:17.240 What's going on. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.880 Because the group that is claiming that they're going to 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.920 be moving the Islamic vote around may not necessarily be 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.479 standing candidates, but they may well end up heavily influencing 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.280 potentially where votes are going to go. This is going 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.920 to be a very interesting election, but it sometime this 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.720 year or definitely next year, it'll be fascinating to see 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.800 what happens and what information is floating around. Send me 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.440 the emails, Paul at skynews dot com dot Au. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:40.320 Now, I don't know if. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.920 You've heard this, but there's a conversation at the moment 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.480 and a fierce battle about what percent of one percent 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.280 of global emissions Australia should be cutting by twenty thirty. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.040 Peter Dutton has reignited the political fight over climate change. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.119 If the Coalition submits a less ambitious twenty thirty target, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.240 Australia be the first country to do so under the 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.240 Paris Agreement. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.319 Peter Dutton says he remains committed to net zero emissions 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:12.720 by twenty fifty, but today he effectively abandoned Australia's legislated 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:18.160 short term target. Electorally risky, especially in inner city electorates. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.800 Oh, don't make the teals acrey, please, please, they will 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:28.079 glower in our direction. They already have well well under 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.720 Graham Lloyd, the former Environment editor now I think associate 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.120 editor at the Australian newspaper, because he actually put it 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.480 on the table here that. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.400 Australia ain't getting kicked out of Paris. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.600 The world is not turning on Australia if we turned 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.400 down the dial on the ambitions. Now remember the destination 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.280 is the same net zero twenty fifty. But as Graham 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.520 writes today, Australia has no chance of being kicked out 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.400 of the Paris Agreement. Whatever Peter Dutton may do, the 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.800 biggest stick that you and Armory would have, which is 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:00.319 to deny Albanezi his chance to host a climate conference, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.520 should be he be re elected in twenty twenty six, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.880 but of course it wouldn't matter because Albanezy. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.240 Would be re elected. Peer pressure but. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.000 Simply is the only tool at the UN's disposal now. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.640 A little warning to lefties though now they think that 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.840 the politics on climate change has changed so dramatically that 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:23.319 what failed in twenty nineteen, that was wrapped up in 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.240 lies in twenty twenty two with two hundred and seventy 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.120 five dollars off your power bills and five hundred thousand 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.880 new jobs, that now that they're in government, and because 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.240 of the Teals and the Greens, they'll stay there forever. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.240 The expectation now is that they're going to go even 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:43.520 harder by twenty thirty five. As Shari Markson reported in 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.960 her program an hour ago, that process could be anywhere 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:52.000 between sixty five and seventy five percent emissions reduction targets 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:58.440 by twenty thirty five. So the idea that we would 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:03.840 eventually get to one hundred percent and effectively be therefore 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:08.680 net zero in twenty fifty, but we keep turning the 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.240 dial up as fast as possible so that we get 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.280 the bulk of the work out of the way before 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.520 we get to twenty and fifty. Now, of course, this 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.160 is all great for the people who don't rely on 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.720 paying for power or running a business or all of 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.240 the obvious things that have to change as a result. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.760 But all of those people are the ones already sitting 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.080 in the lobby groups that are getting government money to 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.040 help to achieve the power side of that equation. Or 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.640 they're the politicians who, of course just keep getting pay rises, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.560 including the biggest in a decade that they got just 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.440 last year. So their assumption is the horse has bolted. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.920 There is nothing to be seen here. But Peter Dutt't 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.200 clearly believes that there is a political angle here that 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.240 perhaps while the destination remains the same, the journey is 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:00.800 one that could be negotiated. And again convenient truth for 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.880 lefties who like to always talk about Australia as a 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.000 megapolluta because of the per capita pollution that we make. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:08.680 Of course they don't say that when it comes to 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.080 a per capita recession. I do know we use the 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.480 other figures, But of course when it comes to pollution. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.400 It's just how much is in the air right and 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.520 as you know, Australia about one percent, China more than 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.320 thirty percent. China can continue to do whatever the hell 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.960 it wants still twenty thirty. So the betting here, I 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.800 think from Peter Dutton, as we've seen this thing grow 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.240 over the week, and the Labour Party's done an pretty 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.320 good political job of turning the subject from their own failures, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.920 which has been pretty much the story for the past 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.400 few months, into the red hot outrage in and around 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:46.120 the Paris Agreement this week. But for Peter Dutton, his 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.880 assumption is that if forty three is too high and 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.120 we're not achieving it, then what's going to happen at 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.040 sixty five and seventy five Either we never achieve those 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.360 goals or way. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.200 More needs to happen. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.640 And even then at the end of the day, even 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:07.280 when we hit two thousand and thirty, that's when China 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.320 starts to get measured on what they have to do 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.440 before their net zero goal, of course of two thousand 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.160 and sixty. I've said this a few times this week 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.560 because I wanted to sink in when you inevitably have 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.080 to fight about this with younger members of your family, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.280 which is, if Australia did everything, it's one percent of 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.600 the world's problems fixed. China is thirty percent. Back to 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.760 that grapt because it's also important to note some of 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.760 the other countries that are involved here. When it comes 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.800 to India, there are about ten percent. The United States 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.400 is at about fourteen percent. Now, unless you're living under 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.600 a rock, you know there's a presidential election this year. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.040 Peter Dutton's bet is that Trump wins because you see, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.560 the Paris Agreement is not law in the United States 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.640 because it passed through the Parliament like an international treaty should. Instead, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.400 it was arch Obama who signed up to it via 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.680 presidential order, which meant when Donald Trump became the president, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.200 he tore the damn thing up. When Joe Biden became 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.480 the president, he re signed up to it. So the 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.880 likelihood is if Trump wins, he tears it up in 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.960 January of twenty twenty five, meaning that the election we'd 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.240 be having in twenty twenty five would be one where 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.400 the country that's producing what twenty something percent or sorry, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.040 I should say fifteen percent. My eyes are terrible tonight, 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.560 fifteen percent of the world's emissions. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.520 Would be in the same box as the one. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.919 That's producing the best part of thirty So what forty 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.359 five percent of the world would not be playing by 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.560 any rules before two thousand and thirty. So what might 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.600 seem as an automatic political loser today if Trump wins. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:56.040 If Trump wins, could become a more competitive position by 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.320 the election should it be held in January of next year. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:17:59.800 For his part, he is Peter Dunton. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.080 Day we saw the Prime Minister and his very angry 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.520 state that he was in, telling people that he couldn't 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.159 really explain what a sixty five to seventy five percent 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.440 target looks like. In February of next year, the government's 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:16.879 going to have to sign up to a new target 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.280 by twenty thirty five. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.080 Now, what does it mean for families who. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.080 Are struggling at the moment where Anthony Albanez he promised 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.439 at the last election that there would be a two 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.000 hundred and seventy five dollars decrease in your power bill. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.760 Instead there's been one thousand. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:30.760 Dollar increase in your power bill. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.960 But how much higher will your electricity prices go under 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.040 this Prime Minister. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:40.000 And the weekend rattled Prime Minister was off with the 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.320 fairies today because of course Airbus Albo knows an awful 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.880 lot about what it's like to look out a window 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:51.639 and enjoy the clouds. He also knows because he's getting 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.200 not one but two brand new private jets. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:53.679 Oh that's right. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.760 Sorry, they were ordered under the Morrison government. But this 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.880 government's been in power for two years and is powerless 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.959 to challenge them. He's still getting two new private jets. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:03.800 So today he decided to go. 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:04.240 On this. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:11.359 Dance a metaphor if you will, about his plan versus 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:16.399 Dutton's plan. And the problem is the destination is the 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.280 same net zero twenty fifty. That's the same for the Libs, 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.520 the same for the Greens, the same for one day, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.320 the same. Everyone's position is net zero twenty fifty. So 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.120 certainly it's labor and liberal, I should say net zero 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.960 twenty fifty. So what exactly is the Prime Minister trying 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.600 to do here when the destination is the same place. 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.720 And now what Pety Dutton is saying is that he 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.480 won't have a twenty thirty target. He won't tell you 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.200 what he will do before the election. It's a bit 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.480 like someone getting on a plane at the new airport 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.520 on one of those mystery flights where you don't know 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.520 where you're going to go, You don't know what the 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.679 destination is. You think you're going to wa direction, but 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.240 you find yourself on the other part of Australia or 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.239 the other part of the world, and you can't You 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:13.200 can't get off your flight until twenty forty because that's 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.879 when the nuclear fantasy will land, if they can find 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.560 a location, if they can find someone who'll fund a 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.320 nuclear power plant. Until then, you're going to have to 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:28.800 parachute out of the plane and take pot luck at 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:29.240 where you. 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:36.200 Land nailed dirt. The destination is the same knit zero 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:36.919 twenty fifty. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.720 If nucular kicks in twenty forty, then guess what that 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.560 would all count on? Where we are heading for twenty fifty. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.240 But of course there's an election in twenty twenty four, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:50.320 twenty twenty five, and Albo believes that we're constantly fighting 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.280 the last election. But of course the difference between the 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.800 twenty twenty two election and the twenty twenty four or 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.640 twenty twenty five election is it interest rates have gone 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.560 up twelve times since he became Prime Minister, cost of 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:10.040 living is demonstrably worse people's capacity to say I'll pay 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.679 a little bit more if we can solve x percent 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.680 of one percent of the world's problems, while China can 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.080 do whatever it wants, and depending on what happens in 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.520 the American election, forty five percent of the world won't 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.200 be doing much before twenty twenty thirty. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:28.240 That's the game. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.800 But the Prime Minister thinks there's enough people particularly frustrated 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.880 and angry. And this is sort of the ultimate proof 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.840 of the uga booger of Peter Dutton. But we've got 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.800 into such detail every night because I know you're going 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.040 to have to debate this with your friends and family 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.040 over the next few days. I've shown you where this 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.840 started with a couple of lines of the Australian newspaper 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:54.600