WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 28 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Steve. We've moved

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<v Speaker 2>the man Cave to Perth tonight. We're in Western Australia

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<v Speaker 2>for the next few days. We'll be doing ourtown here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, Port Headland tomorrow for the show is as

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<v Speaker 2>normal tonight and tomorrow night. The chat out to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>here in w WA. It's great to be here and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a big show ahead for you tonight, including

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<v Speaker 2>they are the best in the business, the Titans when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to firing up for their side of politics,

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<v Speaker 2>Team Red and Team Blue. Brom and Bishop Stephen Conry

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be here tonight. Yeah, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have my say about the idiocy that had a band

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<v Speaker 2>served up today where it doesn't know the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>profit and turnover, something that a kid in year nine

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<v Speaker 2>economics would know, but he doesn't care about that, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he wants the kid in year nine to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to vote. And Meghan kelly or joined us tonight

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<v Speaker 2>from the United States because Kamala Harris is doing an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the questions that she would ask the empty pantsuits?

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<v Speaker 2>But first, can you believe that we live in a

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<v Speaker 2>country that has people in it that in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the day would assault a baby and potentially scar

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<v Speaker 2>them for life. That's exactly what took place in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the day yesterday, but we learned about it today.

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<v Speaker 2>In Brisbane. A baby was with their parents in a park.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happens with anyone who's ever had a

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<v Speaker 2>kid or a grandkid, or taken care of a little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point in time, you go to the park.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be the safest place in the world. But

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<v Speaker 2>I let Channel nine explain why this wasn't some bastard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry to use the language that hard that early,

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<v Speaker 2>but some low life, some bastard, some piece of human garbage,

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<v Speaker 2>decided to.

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<v Speaker 1>Pour a hot coffee over a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>A hospital bed, with his little hand wrapped around mum's

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<v Speaker 3>fingers and a tear rolling down his cheek. This baby

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<v Speaker 3>boy is hurting. We can't show you his face or

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<v Speaker 3>his mum and dad under Queensland law. This little one

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<v Speaker 3>is a victim of crime and cannot be identified, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can see he's suffering serious burns to his face

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<v Speaker 3>and chest, injuries inflicted by a complete stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>A poor little man. The parents, they spoke to Channel

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<v Speaker 2>nine again because of the absurdity of the law because somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>the victim is under the age of eighteen. Everyone's got

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<v Speaker 2>a blur of faces. This is a baby. This was

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<v Speaker 2>their parents talking about the incident tonight in Bruceban's torture.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm supposed to be his protector and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>protect him. Who was sitting in front of me, my

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<v Speaker 4>friend beside me and her little baby, and some guy

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<v Speaker 4>came up behind us and poured a coffee all over

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<v Speaker 4>his head.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't blame yourself, darlan. What could anyone do? What

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<v Speaker 2>could anyone do? Why would anyone think that somebody walking

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<v Speaker 2>vaguely near them was a threat like this? Again, the

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<v Speaker 2>parents on Channel nine tonight go.

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<v Speaker 4>Straight up to her apartment and to the shower. The

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<v Speaker 4>ambulance arrives pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you didn't hear much from a dad because very

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<v Speaker 2>obviously in these moments you let mums speak, But you'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear from dad now.

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<v Speaker 4>Just having flashbacks all the time about what happened. And

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<v Speaker 4>I wish that he had poured the coffee over me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know who would think that that is okay

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<v Speaker 4>to harm a little innocent baby, a sick freak.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we live in this place? How have we

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<v Speaker 2>got to this stage where somebody did this? And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care what inevitably will be the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>said in front of it. Seriously, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those real low moments. We said nothing but strength and

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<v Speaker 2>love to that family and to that little human who

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<v Speaker 2>deserves to have nothing but a great life in the

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<v Speaker 2>great state of Queensland and the greatest country of them all.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that because there was a nurse saw it

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<v Speaker 2>all take place, took care of the bubbaus straight away,

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<v Speaker 2>got it into a shower as fast as possible, that

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<v Speaker 2>the scarring will not be forever. But think about if

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't that nurse there. Think if that was any

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<v Speaker 2>of us, with any of the little kids that we love,

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<v Speaker 2>going to a freaking park. His police were a little

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<v Speaker 2>more information about what they're trying to look for here

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<v Speaker 2>in the person they think is responsible.

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<v Speaker 5>However, the rest assure that we're doing either than we

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<v Speaker 5>possibly can to find this person.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there is some footage of somebody running away from

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<v Speaker 2>the park. I have to make it very very clear

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<v Speaker 2>that I am not suggesting that this person is the suspect,

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<v Speaker 2>but police want to talk to this person. If there

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<v Speaker 2>is any information that you know about this person, about

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<v Speaker 2>the whereabouts, about the incident, please one one hundred, triple three,

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<v Speaker 2>triple zero is crime stoppers. This person may well be

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<v Speaker 2>able to tell us more about a situation that none

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<v Speaker 2>of us, none of us can get our head around. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to the normal meat and potatoes this show,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course is politics, and the number one issue

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<v Speaker 2>in and around the country is cost of living. Now

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<v Speaker 2>today you will have heard the media echoing that inflation

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<v Speaker 2>is magically getting better.

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<v Speaker 6>Inflation down Australia's the inflation rate is falling.

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<v Speaker 7>It dropped two three and a half percent, down point

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<v Speaker 7>three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>The data says inflation is coming down.

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<v Speaker 5>What they're telling us tonight headline inflation falling to three

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<v Speaker 5>point five percent in July. This is an encouraging result.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a welcome result.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy rebates have helped push the rate of inflation lower.

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<v Speaker 8>The barrage of inflation faced by households is cooling off.

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<v Speaker 2>But just as somebody who wears high heels or platform

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<v Speaker 2>souls that are this big back in the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>they are not actually tall this is completely artificial. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the federal government decided to spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money on a political slogan, not just about too little,

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<v Speaker 2>too late tax cuts, but more importantly the three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars rebate, which works out at twenty five dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>which only goes for twelve months to get them through

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<v Speaker 2>an election, and that has artificially pulled things down not

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<v Speaker 2>by a point, not even by half a point, but

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<v Speaker 2>by zero point three percent, all right, so not even

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<v Speaker 2>half of one percent. And if you have a look

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<v Speaker 2>here the reality of the numbers which have come out,

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<v Speaker 2>they are not quarterly, they are monthly numbers, and they

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<v Speaker 2>still show that there are things that are way higher

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<v Speaker 2>than the mid threes. This won't surprise you, but things

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<v Speaker 2>like tobacco, well it's at thirteen point nine percent compared

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<v Speaker 2>to this time last year. In terms of the past month,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gone up. Fruit and veg has gone wild in

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<v Speaker 2>the past month. Now you think about power bills where

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to notice, you are definitely going to

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<v Speaker 2>notice fruit and vegetables because in the past month they've

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<v Speaker 2>gone up by four points seven point five is well,

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of double the inflation rate that they

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<v Speaker 2>were patting themselves on the back floor. Again, think about

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<v Speaker 2>the person with the highest heels possible or the highest

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<v Speaker 2>possible boots.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fake result.

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<v Speaker 2>Insurance yep, you can add again the ever growing costs

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<v Speaker 2>their education, health up as well by one point. Bread

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<v Speaker 2>and cereal because you know, why would anyone need to

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<v Speaker 2>eat or drink? Food products generally are also up, and

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<v Speaker 2>food and non alcoholic beverages are all up. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just me saying that this is not just even

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<v Speaker 2>a sugar hit. Is the complete fraud of a result

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<v Speaker 2>about inflation, one made to make the government's narrative true,

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<v Speaker 2>not the reality of what we are all facing. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>economists and other people who know way more than I.

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<v Speaker 2>He's from the Daily Mail today about how they again

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<v Speaker 2>point out that this is a fake result. The numbers, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers are real and not pretending the ABS fiddles

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers. But this is not a natural occurrence. The

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<v Speaker 2>government got involved, spent hundreds of millions of dollars of

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<v Speaker 2>your money, and that is to say that they changed

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<v Speaker 2>it for one month by zero point three of one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's inflation rate has fallen, but the moderation is only

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be short lived because of it's based on

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer funded electricity bill reliefs. See told you that was

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<v Speaker 2>the case, Harry Murphy, Cruz and economists with Moodys. Now

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<v Speaker 2>remember Moodys, the ones who turn around and give credit ratings,

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<v Speaker 2>quite often downgrading places like Victoria because of their systemic

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<v Speaker 2>problems inside their economy. They said that the government rebates

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<v Speaker 2>were a major reason behind inflation drop and noting it

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<v Speaker 2>was far from good news. Everyone pay attention. July's inflation

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<v Speaker 2>print is full of smoke and mirrors. While that makes

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<v Speaker 2>the headline infation figure look a whole lot better, prices

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<v Speaker 2>are ultimately unchanged. Governments are on the hook to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up the tab, so we the taxpayer, pay for the

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<v Speaker 2>politicians to be able to say that they are doing

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<v Speaker 2>something about it, when many of the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate pressures upon us, like food or insurance or

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<v Speaker 2>something to drink or somewhere to live, is all way

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<v Speaker 2>higher than the average number and is fact even up

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<v Speaker 2>on just last months, Which brings us to the economics

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<v Speaker 2>of the Greens. As you will have heard today that

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens leader Adam band Well he played the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>home game National Press Club in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 1>A place filled with people who would love.

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<v Speaker 2>To see their version of running the world being the

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<v Speaker 2>way that we run our country. As you will have

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<v Speaker 2>heard by now, the plan is to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>half a tee for trillion dollars in quote unquote robin

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<v Speaker 2>Hood taxes. What does it mean. Well, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go after super profits, taxes on people like major corporations.

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<v Speaker 2>Even your local music retailer may well end up being

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<v Speaker 2>one of these. Now I let Adam Band explain what

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<v Speaker 2>he can about this childish idea. Enough is enough.

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<v Speaker 7>It's time to make the big corporations and billionaires pay

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<v Speaker 7>their fair share of tax. This election, the Greens will

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<v Speaker 7>propose a package of Robinhood reforms. The aim is simple,

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<v Speaker 7>to make the big corporations and billionaires pay their fair

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<v Speaker 7>share of tax to make life better for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, am I somebody who believes that every company

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<v Speaker 2>should pay the tax that it owes to the country. Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>But do I also understand that we have a system

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<v Speaker 2>where the government tells us we have to have superannuation

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<v Speaker 2>taken off the top of our wage or wage plus superannuation,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the way it works in the private sector,

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<v Speaker 2>and much of that money gets invested in the stock market,

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<v Speaker 2>invested in the very companies that this bloke wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go and hit with even harder taxes. Presumably that will

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<v Speaker 2>affect their bottom line, meaning their share price will effectively

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<v Speaker 2>be diminished, meaning the amount of money that you will

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<v Speaker 2>be able to pull out either yourself managed retirement fund

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<v Speaker 2>if you had retired, or when it's time to retire,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes down. But of course all of this doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter because they don't care about anyone over the age

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<v Speaker 2>of forty. They think, if you're over the age of

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<v Speaker 2>forty and you vote for them, good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is all about everyone under the age of forty,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's all about some sort of occupy Wall Street nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I'm not here to defend companies. They can

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<v Speaker 2>do that for themselves. There are plenty of companies that

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<v Speaker 2>deserve kicks in the backside. I have no problem with

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<v Speaker 2>that whatsoever. But part of the methodology here about what

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<v Speaker 2>companies would have to pay these higher rates of tax. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not actually off the amount of money at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year that.

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<v Speaker 1>They have left over that's called profit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's in turnover so literally, if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>business that has a certain amount I think it's fifty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars or more in turnover, then you will be

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<v Speaker 2>taxed as if you had fifty million dollars or more

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<v Speaker 2>in profit. Now again, let's go back to year nine economics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure mister Collie will be very excited that I

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<v Speaker 2>am doing this on television now, but I did remember

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<v Speaker 2>something in between being booted out of the classroom. The

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<v Speaker 2>difference between turnover and profit is substantial. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>money that comes through the cash register does not mean

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<v Speaker 2>that money goes automatically into anyone's pocket. Of course, anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's run any sort of business knows that the money

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<v Speaker 2>that comes through the cash register ends up going back

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<v Speaker 2>into purchasing the stock, or making the product, hiring the

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<v Speaker 2>people to do all of those things, and what is

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<v Speaker 2>left over after all of that, that's what profit is.

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<v Speaker 2>So rather than being honest and saying this will be

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<v Speaker 2>a profits based tax where you can have conversations about

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar profits of things like supermarkets, instead, by going

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<v Speaker 2>over turnover, you are taxing people for money they don't

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<v Speaker 2>actually have, clipping the ticket for money that will will

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<v Speaker 2>go in one door and out the other Again, Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Band today focused the first component.

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<v Speaker 7>It's targeted at big corporations who are making excessive profits

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<v Speaker 7>beyond a normal return to shareholders. It will apply to

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<v Speaker 7>companies with an annual turnover of over one hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>taxing the excess profits that these companies make.

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<v Speaker 2>My apologies, turn over one hundred million dollars. This is madness.

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<v Speaker 2>This is madness, but it will be very popular with

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<v Speaker 2>the whole bunch of people who say, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to pay, shake your local billionaire, and

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<v Speaker 2>then eventually money will fall out to pay for this,

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<v Speaker 2>that and the other. The reality is is that to

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<v Speaker 2>the corporate system in Australia already pays a very significant

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<v Speaker 2>amount of tax, either as corporate tax or payroll tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone the stimulus that they bring to the economy

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<v Speaker 2>by renting office space meaning people have to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and go and they buy a coffee from downstairs. But

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<v Speaker 2>again the Greens don't care. So as they know they

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<v Speaker 2>will never be in government, they will not have seventy

0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.680
<v Speaker 2>six seats in the lower House, they will not have

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<v Speaker 2>the majority in the upper House, so they can just

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<v Speaker 2>bank this money knowing that it's not going to actually

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<v Speaker 2>come to fruition. It means they're able to dawn off

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<v Speaker 2>and say that they're able to solve the world's problems

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<v Speaker 2>for the thirty percent of the country that are renters.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pushback here is not just people who want

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<v Speaker 2>to protect the corporate class. It's about people who understand

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<v Speaker 2>that these people will not actually, after the next election,

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<v Speaker 2>be in power, but if there is a minority government,

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<v Speaker 2>they will be as close to power as a non

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<v Speaker 2>governing party possibly can be, meaning that some of this

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<v Speaker 2>garbage may well be the price of admission. If the

0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Abernezi government as expected as seen in the polls, requires

0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Green support to form government after the next election. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>some of the reaction.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, there's nothing about Green's economic policy which is realistic.

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<v Speaker 5>Their primary task is to make up number and put

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<v Speaker 5>out press releases. We actually have to run the.

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<v Speaker 10>Place, and the Greens have this luxurious position of where

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<v Speaker 10>they don't have to. They can come out with an idea,

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<v Speaker 10>but they never have to implement it.

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<v Speaker 9>The Labor Party is not about doing deals with the Greens.

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<v Speaker 9>We are focused on winning a majority at the next

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<v Speaker 9>election in our own right.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they never need to worry about how the economy performs.

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<v Speaker 10>They can come out with these kind of thought bubbles

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<v Speaker 10>and never be have to be accountable for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Australia do not want, do not need, cannot afford to

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<v Speaker 6>have a minority government. But quite frankly, Labor haven't exactly

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<v Speaker 6>been the exemplar of good economic management.

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<v Speaker 2>Now watch some of these words very carefully, because while

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about things like majorities and we want a

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<v Speaker 2>majority in our own right, remember the extreme majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Labor MPs are not elected on primary but they need preferences,

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<v Speaker 2>and those preferences come like ninety percent from the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they're serious, they would move the Greens to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the preference list exactly where the Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Party should have them at the bottom of the list.

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<v Speaker 2>The Libs should put the Greens last, Labour should put

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals last. Otherwise you end up with the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are able to turn their protest party into a

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<v Speaker 2>permanent position in Parliament, and they're able to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to said populations and come up with wild ideas that

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<v Speaker 2>they will never put in place. But when a government

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<v Speaker 2>as poor as this one, with a backbench as thin

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<v Speaker 2>as this one, is staring right down the barrel of

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<v Speaker 2>a minority parliament, a minority parliament where if the current

0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.960
<v Speaker 2>poles are right, it's not going to be one or

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<v Speaker 2>two seats, it's going to be seven or eight seats

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to need. So it's not just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Rebecca Sharky Bob Catter. It's not just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Andrew Wilkie. It's going to be the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be the left wing Teals, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why this election is so damn important. The consequences are absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greens have now told us the price that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>has to pay for them to get as close as

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<v Speaker 2>possible to power without actually being in power. Meantime, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a little update for you when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the aged care situation. I've got so many emails from people,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you for sending them to Poullotsguydews dot com

0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.359
<v Speaker 2>dot au about agecare and about what apparently is the

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 2>deal that may well have been done here between Team

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<v Speaker 2>Blue and Team Red for how much money you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to pay on top of what you

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<v Speaker 2>currently pay for aged care. Now we understand here that

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the expectation is that self funded retirees are going to

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<v Speaker 2>end up having to pay an extra forty forty thousand

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:35.600
<v Speaker 2>dollars extra for nursing homers under user pays. Remember this

0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.760
<v Speaker 2>government put in front of the opposition and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what the deal is that the caps that exist

0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.719
<v Speaker 2>inside an age care home, well, they wouldn't exist if

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you are taking care of yourself at home with a

0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 2>home care package. Some self funded retirees, according to the OS,

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<v Speaker 2>entering a nursing home after July next year will face

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<v Speaker 2>an average of forty thousand dollars extra coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>their own pocket if the Abanez's government plan new aged

0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.119
<v Speaker 2>care regime adopts the recommendations of a task force for

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<v Speaker 2>greater personal contributions, with uncertainty now cloning the future of

0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.879
<v Speaker 2>landmark age care laws after hopes for a bipartisan deal

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.439
<v Speaker 2>were dashed at the eleventh hour. I think that's in

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<v Speaker 2>part because of what we were talking about here. If

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<v Speaker 2>Team Red and Team Blue, we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>a scenario where there'll be an even higher cap, like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars higher cap for age care facilities

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and no cap at home. Maybe that's why they've decided

0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to pull out here. But get ready that to your

0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.400
<v Speaker 2>accommodation deposit will move to forty nine bucks a day

0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 2>or eighteen thousand dollars a year. The additional payments would

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<v Speaker 2>also apply to the fifty five percent of all nursing

0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.320
<v Speaker 2>home residents who don't receive government pensions. That's about thirty

0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 2>percent of the nation's approximately two hundred thousand age care residents.

0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Stand by massive story. Good to see the reporting in

0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 2>The Australian today. Also keep an eye on what Philip

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Curley writes, tweets or speaks from the Financial Review. He's

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<v Speaker 2>right across the negotiations. These things matter and we need

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to call people to account about what is the deal

0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that is currently being done Because your parents, you, or

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.480
<v Speaker 2>eventually you will be burdened with this system. Now, what

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>about the Queensland government, as we know, desperate to try

0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to hold onto power, They've come up with every possible

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 2>way of trying to buy people's votes, and one of

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.720
<v Speaker 2>those is the reduction in public transport fares. The public

0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 2>transport system has seen an increase in the number of

0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.359
<v Speaker 2>people that are using it because apparently will only cost

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty cents for you to be able to ride. But

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<v Speaker 2>guess what despite the fact that the fair is just

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty cents, the Queensland government is going to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than fifty cents chasing down anyone who evades

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the fare of fifty cents. Now, this would be literally

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 2>wasting money, chasing bad money. Now, okay, if they eventually

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>chase you down and you've got to pay fifty cents back,

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you'll pay it back. But it costs a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>than fifty cents for somebody to chase down the person

0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 2>who owes fifty cents. And another example about the political

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.359
<v Speaker 2>trouble that the Queensland Labor Party is in. Yet another

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Labour MP is jumping ship ahead of what is expected

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a bruising Queensland election. May it be so?

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>May it be so? Curtis Pitt, Speaker of the Parliament,

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.359
<v Speaker 2>he has decided he will not contest the next election.

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 2>But of course it doesn't matter whether it's good news

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 2>or bad news. Stephen Lyles will find a way to

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>giggle good, bad or indifferent. Now, there is an interesting

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 2>conversation happening right now around the census. The next census

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 2>is due in the next little while, and of course,

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.960
<v Speaker 2>as you know, the census is literally about the raw

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.080
<v Speaker 2>data that governments go on to make decisions about how

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>many people live here, how many people live there, how

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 2>many people with kids are here? Do we need more

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 2>childcare here, more aged care there, more schools, better roads,

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff right now. Whether they actually deliver

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.239
<v Speaker 2>on it or not, well, we can all agree that

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that's probably not the case. But also one of the

0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.399
<v Speaker 2>things that the Bureau of Statistics collects when it collects

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>that census information is there's a whole bunch of other

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 2>information that they're able to extrapolate and turn into different

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 2>reports that bleed out for the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>As a show that almost nightly quotes the Australian Bureau of Statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to have as much information as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>which brings us to an interesting question. Should someone be

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<v Speaker 2>able to list their gender or their sexuality, how many

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.439
<v Speaker 2>options should there be? Now? The data freak in me says,

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<v Speaker 2>we should have as much information about as many people

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. Now. I know that there have been examples

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 2>in the past when the people who chose not to

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 2>identify as male or female has been a relatively low number,

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<v Speaker 2>and inevitably, if you put in the whole Smaugus board

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of options, those numbers are going to increase. But the

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>reality here is that there's nothing to do with morality here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to disappear people of different genders or

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<v Speaker 2>different sexualities by not counting them. So let's actually see

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the data. Let's actually see whether the country is spending

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 2>too much time talking about these issues or whether there

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>is a significant number of people who fit into lots

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 2>of different categories. I know you may disagree, but think

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>about it from the data perspective. Now, I say all

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 2>of this because for some reason left wing Albanese government,

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>putting together the advice through the Bureau of Statistics, has

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<v Speaker 2>decided that they don't want the question at the next

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>census about gender and sexuality. Now this has really annoyed

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people in the alphabet community, but more importantly,

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it denies us data, real data. I just want the data.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the point right now. Interestingly, the last thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we want, the Deputy Prime Minister says, is the LGBT

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<v Speaker 2>census questions to avoid division. Now again, I understand that

0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.199
<v Speaker 2>you may not approve of either lifestyle sexualities or or

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the people who believe that gender is fluid. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that tonight, but it's not divisive to actually know

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>who's living next door or in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Next street, or in the next suburb.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to race finance, how many cars you own,

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>whether they have an Internet connection or not, And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that does for some come down to things like sexuality

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and gender. As I say, the LGBT community is very

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>annoyed about this. I think they'll eventually end up with

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>a win because the data is what's needed here. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe anyone is truly offended by the question appearing,

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<v Speaker 2>do they really.

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<v Speaker 11>The decision goes against the evidence, and the evidence outweighs

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<v Speaker 11>absolutely the need for the data, and that is what

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 11>we're focused on. It's more than these questions that people

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 11>Some people are upset around the fact of asking questions

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 11>on sex, gender, variations of sex characteristics, and sexual orientation.

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 11>The data that comes from that, it's a life saving data.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about the data.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not about anything else. We get as much

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>data as possible, and we should. Can you know what

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>you think? Always respond? Ports, Godews, dot com, dot AU

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of massive things out of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Now one thing that we absolutely know is that if

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>there is or isn't a debate in the first couple

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 2>of weeks of September, around the middle of September, is

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 2>when Donald Trump is going to be sentenced. He may

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.959
<v Speaker 2>well be sentenced to jail, sent to jail before the election.

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 2>This is what is about to happen as the judge sentencing,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>and we know how that judge has at every opportunity

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>ruled against Trump, has allowed the most wild and crazy

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>stuff into that court case, a court case that they

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>were able to somehow get a guilty verdict despite the

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>fact that it was all about bookkeeping, but the bookkeeper

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 2>was not actually called to give evidence because the fear

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 2>was that he would exonerate Donald Trump. Well, that's the

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 2>first situation. The second is a blow called Jackson Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith's gone very quiet for a little while, but

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 2>now he's roaring back to life. He's the special counsel,

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the special prosecutor who is going as hard as he

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 2>possibly can against Trump on the documents that were kept

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>at mar Lago and trying to criminalize his role in

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and around what happened with January six. Now Fox News

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>will explain that this case has had to be changed

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>because the Supreme Court said that a president basically is

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>immune from prosecution when they do things as the president.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>So the case has been restacked with a little changed

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>here and a little change there, and Fox will explain

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 2>why this election matters even more to Donald Trump because

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>if he loses, he will have to defend this case

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>in court.

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<v Speaker 8>The chargers remain the same for Trump's alleged attempts to

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 8>overturn the twenty twenty election, but Special Counsel Jack Smith

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 8>reframed the endement following the Supreme Court's decision to give

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 8>presidents broad immunity for her official acts made an office.

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 8>One section removed accused Trump of trying to use the

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 8>power of the Justice Department to overturn his loss. Another

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 8>change removed the names of federal officials.

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<v Speaker 12>Whether they did is kept the four charges, and they

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.360
<v Speaker 12>just took out any evidence that clearly would have contradicted

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 12>the Supreme Court's decision on presidential immunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Meantime, Kamala Harris, one week after the Democratic National Convention,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to come out of hiding. She will in

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the next twenty four hours sit down and tape an

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 2>interview with CNN. The interview will of course be with

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>her and her vice presidential running mate, because of course

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 2>making killeses. You can't have a president without the emotional

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>support governor. Now, we all know the questions that have

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>to be asked. We all know that it's about multiple

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>parts here. Firstly, what did you know about Joe Biden?

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>When did you start to know that he was going

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.479
<v Speaker 2>the other way? Second, Lea, can you please explain why

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you're flip flopped on this issue? This issue, this issue,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 2>this issue, and now what do you plan to do

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>if you become president of the next four years? That

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>should take more than an hour of television, but apparently

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>see an m We'll just do an hour of it.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of that

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>is just walking around metaphorically holding hands rather than asking

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>some of those questions. Well, tonight, Meghan Kelly will line

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>up the questions that she demands are asked of this

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>person who is cruising their way through this campaign, hiding

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in plain sight, pretending that she's not Joe Biden while

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>using Biden's basement to find a way to power. He's

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>part of Meghan. That'll turn up a bit later tonight,

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and what she would ask Harris.

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.719
<v Speaker 13>Your campaign says you're no longer in favor of a

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 13>fracking band, what specifically changed your mind?

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>How?

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 13>And when your campaign says you no longer favor taking

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 13>away everyone's private health insurance and putting them on the

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 13>government plan, the Medicare plan, what specifically changed your mind?

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 13>Your campaign says that you are no longer throw open

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 13>border policies and not enforcing our immigration laws. You now

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 13>want to crack down on the southern brook What specifically

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 13>was it?

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Meghan? In a couple of seconds, but straight after this

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to a big fire up Stephen Connery. He's

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>just here to help.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Bromwan Bishop, She's.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Here to tell it like it is. I can't wait.

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 2>We're alive in Perth. Thanks for watching us where you are,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for watching. I'm in Perth and

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>joining us right now from Sydney is none other than

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the wonderful Bromwin Bishop carry out a CHAMPI as always

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>on a Wednesday night in Melbourne is Stephen Connery, and

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 2>he's always here to help.

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>What a truly national.

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Show we are tonight where we're all united by what

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>the hell did Adam Ban serve up today? Now Bromwin again.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 2>The difference between profferd and turnover and is all very

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 2>serious and it's time to soak the rich. Of course,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it's easy for them to come up with this source

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>of revenue for promises that they'll never have to put

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in place because they won't be the opposition, they won't

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>be the government. But but but but they may well

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>end up being in a position to help Labor form

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>a minority government. And that's why we pay any attention

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>lit alone this much attention to it. What did you

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>think of Adam Bant's economics lesson today, Well, it's.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Certainly not a Robin Hood tax.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 14>It's more like a King John tax, I think. But

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 14>the thing that is important is this that Adam Banter

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 14>has come out and said that he wishes to replace

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 14>Labor as the mainstream left wing party. So he is

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 14>going all out to beat Labor in enough seats that

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 14>he can in fact be the dominant left wing party.

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 14>In doing so, he no doubt is going to take

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 14>money from the CFMU. I think they already take it

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 14>from the Electrical Trades Union. They'll take it from the MUA,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 14>and they'll take their manpower already got the CFMU coming

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 14>out and saying they're going to destroy the Labor Party

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 14>and they will be running hard to do exactly that.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So the so called.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 14>Policy of how they'll run the economy is window dressing

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 14>around what is a thrust and for absolute power. So

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 14>when they say they're going to slug the rich, it

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 14>just becomes a mantra. It honestly sounds like Stalin's five

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 14>year plan. It'll do nothing for the people of Australia,

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 14>nothing to enable people to live decent lives. They are

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 14>the would be autocratic rulers and they have to be

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 14>called out for being a socialist, dreadful party.

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Stephen, let's look under the hood here right again,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>there is a difference between profit and turnover. Did I

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>get that right? Firstly yes or no? But then secondly,

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>let's get to that about what they're going to try

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 2>to do here, about what they're trying to do with you.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>You got half a trillion dollars worth of money that

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you seek to either reallocate or have fake promises. How

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>worried are you that the Labor Party suffers when they've

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>got half a trillion dollars worth of promises that they

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>can just piddle up against the wall.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 15>Well, look, I think you mentioned your year nine was

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 15>it economics class graduation A plus for Paul Murray on

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 15>first year economics because clearly Adam budd has failed that one.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 15>But look, in terms of the promises they're going to make,

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 15>they've been somewhere realistic. They're moving so further left they're

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 15>tearing themselves apart. Here in Victoria, the different factions of

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 15>the Greens Party are spelling over the lunatic performance by

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 15>the Housing spokesperson supporting an organization which has been found

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 15>to be riddled with criminal elements. I mean, that's who

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 15>the Greens are hooking up with nowadays. To Bromwick's point,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 15>I'd be surprised if the administrator is going to be

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 15>start doling out donations for anyone in the next election.

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 15>The whole Union is now in in administration, I think,

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 15>other than maybe the.

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>West coast where Paul is.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 15>But apart from apart from that, you know, this is

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 15>a package that he may, in his fantasies, think is

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 15>his negotiating point. But I don't even need to say

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 15>out loud that Labor will not do it, will not

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 15>agree to it, and it would be political suicide for

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 15>labor to give them one percent of this insanity.

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 2>On the flight on the way over, I was sitting

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 2>next to a wonderful bloke called Brian. He was very

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, very giving them a space that then sort

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>of wanted to have a chat and I'm like, mate,

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's have a chat. And he was very

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>kind and he waited. But we took a long time

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>on the flight talking because he works in the gold mine,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>so right, he has since then, and he talked about

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>this situation of the tailings dam and why the decision. Well,

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you can't just move certain parts of that without serious

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>financial or engineering consequences. Now we talk about all of

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>this because of course there's this new South Wales gold mine.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>The locals wanted, the state government wants it, the Prime

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Minister apparently wants it, but his Environment minister says no.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>The company says, well sorry unless the tailings dam is there.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>And anyone who's ever watched you know Ossie gold Hunters,

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you know up the road in Calgooley where it's filmed,

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you know the importance of water to the process. Right,

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>But we again see the News of Whales premiere doubling down.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>He again is pretty obvious he's pushing for this thing.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm disappointed by the decision from the Commonwealth Government.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>You disagree with the reversion. Liver said that many times, and.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>So in your view, ten, you're Clevasick using that power.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Was she was in error? Yes, So Brian made an

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>awful lot of sense, which means Bromin goes first. Now, Bromwan,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>how does this work? Everyone agrees except the government that

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>is regulating against it, but the boss of that government

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>disagrees with the decision. You can't just move the tailings.

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 14>Paul, there is a way out of this situation. Albanez

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 14>he said he wants them a mine. Minsa said he

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 14>wants the mine.

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 14>The declaration that is made by Tanya plippershek is a

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 14>disallowable instrument. And on the twentieth of August, Senator Derniam

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 14>moved a disallowance motion which is now before the Senate.

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 14>It's on the notice paper I think for the ninth

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 14>of September. And if it remains on the notice paper

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 14>for fifteen sitting days and the Government doesn't call it

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 14>on and defeat that disallowance motion, then the declaration made

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 14>by Tania Plibisk will be disallowed and the mind you saved,

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 14>and she cannot remake that declaration for six months. So

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 14>there is a very simple way mister Minn should ring

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 14>mister Alberanizi and mister Albersi should tell his senators that

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 14>they should not call on the motion and they should

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 14>not defeat call it on for a vote and they

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 14>should not defeat it. They should simply leave it there

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 14>and let it become disallowed. Then the mind can continue.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So Stephen, you know the machinations of the Senate, you

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>know the machinations of what Robins just said. Is that

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be how the Labour Party saves itself from itself?

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 15>Well, look, there's a few extra complications. I mean, what

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 15>Bromins described, I think reasonably accurately is the parliamentary process.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 15>But there are still these things called laws and judges

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 15>and courts and idea that the minister can just courts judges.

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 15>So Tanya plebisc is guided by actual existing law she

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 15>has to follow. So there's been these arguments if he

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 15>could just be quiet for just two minutes from I'll

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 15>help you. So it is for you, I know, But

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 15>the laws that Tanya has to follow. Tanya has approved

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 15>minds she perhaps at a personal level, doesn't want to

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 15>She's disapproved projects that she perhaps wanted to approve. But

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 15>the minister doesn't get their own personal view on these things.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 15>The minister is bound by law and must follow the law.

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 15>They must follow proper process and they must follow the

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 15>trail that leads. Because Scott Morrison proved to us, why

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 15>if you just intervene, decide to knock off a proposal,

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 15>it can be challenged in court. He did it, I

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 15>think it's an offshore wind farm and got rolled in

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 15>court for not following proper process.

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Everything the problem that had.

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 2>De session.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 15>Because I just tried to explain to you, because you

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 15>then will be taking to court and be challenged on

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 15>the basis of the administrative processes. Yes, Brown, Scott Morrison

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 15>actually had it happened to him recently, my minister, when

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 15>he appointed himself one of all of those you know,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 15>seventy four ministries he appointed himself, he knocked over something

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 15>got taken the course by the unsuccessful bidder. Now in

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 15>this case it would be not the mind people who

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 15>would take them in court, and with the opponents of

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 15>the mind that would take them to court. So you

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 15>can't just as Environment Minister decide I like this one,

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 15>I don't like this one.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>You've actually got to follow the law. Yes, and the

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>law says.

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Mate, I love it. All right. Now, let's talk about

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the all guns blazing on Peter Dutton stuff. This is

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>designed to distract from all of the problems the government has,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>all right now, Again, I stand by the analogy of

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the high heels or the platform shoes about sort of

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>the result that we got today when it came to inflation.

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers, of course loved the idea that after delivering

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<v Speaker 2>the bomb, he follows up on the bomb after everyone

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<v Speaker 2>reacts to the bomb, and unsurprisingly he stands by the

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 2>bomb that he threw Peter Dutton's way.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very happy to come to that specific question, but

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<v Speaker 5>before I do, I want to say something about the

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 5>speech that.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 5>Ninety percent of it was about paying tribute to the

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<v Speaker 5>memory of John Curtin and talking overwhelmingly about cost of

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<v Speaker 5>living and the future of our economy. But I don't

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<v Speaker 5>resolve one bit from the remarks that I made about

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 2>On Monday night.

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<v Speaker 5>Dutton is a divisive figure, and I believe he is

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<v Speaker 5>too divisive to be the prime minister of a great

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<v Speaker 5>country like ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>When this pissed off, it must mean that Dutton is

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<v Speaker 2>right over the target.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you know, when the government's in trouble and

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 14>there's this awful whiff of fear, you can smell it.

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<v Speaker 14>And that speech that mister Chalmers made trying to call

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<v Speaker 14>mister Dutton di visive when he knows damn well that

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<v Speaker 14>it was mister ALBERNIZI, who is the most divisive character

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<v Speaker 14>we've seen with the voice, had that whiff of fear

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<v Speaker 14>about it, and that was reinforced when he made that

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 14>peculiar statement today when he said, look, twenty two pages

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<v Speaker 14>was my speech and I only just spoke about mister

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 14>Dutton with a very small part of it. I was

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<v Speaker 14>really talking about something else and left out, of course

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<v Speaker 14>the word dangerous. Is feeling the pressure very much. He

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<v Speaker 14>knows they're in deep trouble. He knows that they've failed

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<v Speaker 14>on every issue that they have tried to bring forward.

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<v Speaker 14>And when the figures didn't come out today on inflation

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<v Speaker 14>the way he wanted it, well, he felt the pressure

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<v Speaker 14>again and he's going to go on feeling it because

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<v Speaker 14>this is going to be a election and people think

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<v Speaker 14>much closer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too. We've got literally less than a

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<v Speaker 2>minute here, Stephens. So again, look, it's a shark. No

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>one can add glass jaws, and it's got to have

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>sharp elbows. And you're allowed to say whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>about your opponent, But doesn't it tell you a little

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<v Speaker 2>something about how nervous they are because supposedly they're guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>the next election, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 15>Every government draws a picture of the leader of the opposition.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 15>Every government, whether it's John Howard trying to draw a

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 15>picture of Kevin Rudd, whether it was Kevin Rudd trying

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 15>to draw a picture about Tony Abbott, Every government, every

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 15>opposition get into the same arguments. This is absolutely normal politics.

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<v Speaker 15>And what Jim did was simply exposed that Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 15>is continuing to find his own distractions and just needs

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 15>to actually put some policy on the table. It's not

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<v Speaker 15>policy debates.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, all right, thank you. I'm not far to

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<v Speaker 2>that between now and the election. I got to go, sorry, Bromin,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've got the wonderful Megan Kelly standing by and

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 2>we've got a little satellite de lay between here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>So my apologies, Thank you guys. Talk to you all

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<v Speaker 2>next week. Meghan Kelly, the hard questions for the empty

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 2>pants suit, that is Kamala. Harris next not talking to

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Megan Kelly, but I'm really fired up and borderline pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off tonight, and I know her shows are pretty much

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the same because we've got to talk about Kamala. Kamala

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>not even hiding in plain sight, just outright hiding. The

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<v Speaker 2>Great Lady joins us now from the US Meghan, five

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>days since the empty pants suit, rather than Obama in

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 2>a pantsuit was out telling us not very much and

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 2>hope and joy and all that crap. Get no way

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 2>to be saying nothing. And as you reported yesterday, as

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<v Speaker 2>NBC has been backing in today, if she does an interview,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll do it with her governor. If the debate happens,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll do it with notes. Now, this is not the

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>behavior of a person who is leading. This is the

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff of somebody who is scared.

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<v Speaker 13>Nor is it the behavior of anyone with any intellectual depth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth. That's really what's an issue here.

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<v Speaker 13>She is not a very smart person. She can say

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<v Speaker 13>enough to get through a short exchange or memorize note

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<v Speaker 13>cards for a debate, but she does not have any

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 13>intellectual depth. And that I think is what we've been

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<v Speaker 13>perceiving for the last four years. When she tries to

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 13>offer her brand of profundity, where none of us feel

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 13>moved at all. We're actually scratching our heads asking ourselves,

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 13>what did she just say? Why would she say that,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 13>and why would she think that that would resonate with

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<v Speaker 13>any of us? So she understands she needs a crutch,

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 13>whether it's going to be her emotional support governor in

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 13>an interview or her note cards in a debate. She

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 13>can't perform alone, and she has enough history behind her

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 13>to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, whether this all works or not, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a time machine. We'll all find out

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>first week in November. But just instinctively, I think people

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>buy the millions don't buy it anymore. They don't buy

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the spin, and they see what's happening in real time.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>They see that this person who is being presented in

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>one fashion is really another. But on your show yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved when you had the examples of the questions

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<v Speaker 2>any and every person who gets the opportunity to ask

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>her should ask. They should be basic contrast questions. You

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>believe this, now, you believe that? Why over and over

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and over again. If she can make it through that,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>then fine, but we both know she can't.

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<v Speaker 13>It's very simple. And the point I was trying to

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<v Speaker 13>make on my show was not only should it be

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<v Speaker 13>your campaign issued a statement saying that you no longer

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<v Speaker 13>support a ban on fracking?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 13>It should be what made you change your mind? Exactly specifically,

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<v Speaker 13>And I was saying, just like they do to Republicans

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<v Speaker 13>who go from being pro choice to pro life, because

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 13>it's still a Republican party in which you can't be

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 13>elected or nominated unless you say your pro life. And

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 13>a lot of journalists who especially those who are you know,

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 13>looking to cause damage to you a Republican or who

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 13>are themselves Republicans, those you know two or three percent

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 13>of reporters who are might ask a question of such

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 13>a man as follows. Used to be per choice, now

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 13>your pro life. What caused the change? What was it

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 13>that flipped that core belief? And typically it'll be well,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 13>I saw, you know, a fetal heartbeat monitor on my

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 13>wife or on myself when I got pregnant, and that

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 13>can make some sense, those questions should be put to her.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 13>Your campaign says you're no longer in favor of a

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 13>fracking ban. What specifically changed your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>How?

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 13>And when your campaign says you no longer favor take

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 13>away everyone's private health insurance and putting them on the

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 13>government plan, the Medicare plan. What specifically changed your mind?

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 13>Your campaign says that you are no longer throw open

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 13>border policies and not enforcing our immigration laws. You now

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 13>want to crack down on the southern border. What specifically

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 13>was it? And then the follow up comes, was it

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<v Speaker 13>so okay? You saw what happened with the illegal immigrants

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 13>coming into the country in record droves, when over the

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 13>last four years, because under President Trump we had one third,

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 13>one tenth in some years of what we're seeing under

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 13>your administration, you say now that you weren't the borders are,

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 13>that you were somebody who was just responsible for addressing

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 13>root causes of migration. Why did you fail because we're

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 13>seeing record numbers of illegal immigrants flooding across the southern border.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you admit you failed at that job? Because you

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 13>have not abated the desire of these unlawful migrants to

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 13>cross into our country unlawfully.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that hard.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 13>And see if she's got any ability to go even

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 13>too deep.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Never mind ten one. I know that we've just seen

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>your half of the interview. I would love to see

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 2>the other half. Fingers crossed, say what happens now? I

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know whether I've got sort of the rose colored

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 2>blonde is on, but it feels like Trump is playing

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 2>a better game than he was the last time we talked.

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, his advisor saying Trump on steroids multiple events

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.439
<v Speaker 2>a day. Is this the future of the next couple

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of weeks of the Trump campaign?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I think he's getting much more discipline and much

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 13>more endpoint strike targeted. You know, his media strategy lately

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 13>has been to go on these alternative media platforms like

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 13>this interviewer, THEO Vaughn, who's got a very popular podcast,

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 13>and then this week Sean Ryan, former navycal very popular podcast,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 13>and who listens to Theo? And who listens to Sean?

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<v Speaker 13>Large numbers, in particular of young men, large numbers. Trump

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 13>would love to go on Joe Rogan, but Joe Rogan

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.439
<v Speaker 13>doesn't like Trump. And has said he won't do anything

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 13>to support him. But that's very smart because this election

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 13>really is turning into weirdly and sadly male versus female.

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 13>And I mean, I could make the case all day

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.280
<v Speaker 13>long to my fellow women about why they absolutely should

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 13>not support Kamala Harris. She's not for women. She is

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 13>not for women. But okay, put that to the side.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 13>He's trying to go to the base he already has

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 13>generally inclined to him and to stimulate their interest and

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 13>their excitement and their determination to get out and vote

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 13>in November. That's very smart, you know. It's similar to

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 13>what we talked about before, where his campaign figured out

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 13>where all of his merch was selling best, and he

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 13>went and doubled down in those areas and tried to

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.240
<v Speaker 13>stimulate turnout in those areas from people who were already

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 13>kind of thinking geek. Trump's interesting. He's on the same

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 13>general plan. He's not really doing what the mainstream media

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 13>wants him to do, which is reach out to those

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 13>middle independents who are you know, Nikki Haley voters who

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 13>may or may not like No, he right now go

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 13>into the core pockets of support and saying get out.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't let them stop you.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 13>We need you. It's fine if it's male versus female,

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 13>but I need every last male I can find. I

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 13>actually believe his comments about Kamala Harris. Harris's race at

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 13>the NABJ event was a similar reach out to some

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 13>in the black community who've had this kind of feeling

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.359
<v Speaker 13>about her unbeknownst to some of us. And you've heard

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 13>that reflected in many interviews with black voters, especially young

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 13>men who are more Trump and clined black men who

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 13>were like, yeah, you know what, she never did play

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 13>up the black bit. She was always Indian on these

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 13>other you know, whatever they're feeling is so. Trump is

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 13>smart in the way he's targeting different groups, and I

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 13>think that's how you win elections.

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<v Speaker 2>Megan, love to see you. Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 14>Ball