WEBVTT - Josh Addo-Carr | Part 2 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.960 As we're assumed with Penrith Fox, one of the downsides 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.280 of success is players got to be let go with 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.360 the salary account. So the situation situation with you, like, 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.079 how did was it the fact that the dogs just 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.360 come in with other clubs was such a big offer 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:14.480 that basically had to. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.319 Oh, it wasn't necessarily about the money. I lost my 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.760 grandfather I think a year before or two years before, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.320 and I was. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:24.880 A great wally. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.320 Yeah, a big shout out the wall, you know, yeah, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.880 it was Yeah, I lost him, bro, and I was 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.120 just like fuck I as I spent more time with him, 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:36.800 and I sort of just wanted me to move back 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.120 home spend more time with him, and all these offers started. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:40.640 I didn't. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.279 I made the decision just after we passed away. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:45.120 That I wanted to move back. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.199 So that's when all the clubs and all that kind 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.760 of stuff wanted the wanted to sign me, but end 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.720 up staying the following year to finish my contract off 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.840 just out of respect for the storm. And that's how 0:00:58.840 --> 0:00:59.760 it all pretty much started. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:00:59.959 Brother. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.600 Like the money money was good, don't get me wrong, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.399 but yeah, family was was the main indicator, and that 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:07.360 was always a message. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.640 You know what, you'd always loved sitting when you come 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.160 back from off season. You'd always love seeing all your 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.920 best mates and your cousins in Redfern as well, like. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.120 I was even on Sydney games and that, like we 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.120 would always play earlier in the week, and I'd always 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.760 stay in Sydney to spend time with family. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:22.200 That so. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.360 Put it in a Wally one nine and ten titles 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.840 s didnety. He's one of the most. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.040 He I think twelve titles, fifteen, fifteen divisions or something. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.760 It's incredible, one of our greatest fighters, Wally, And I 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.120 remember Fletch was talking to your pop Wally one day 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.600 and Fletched years ago and asked him, who's the toughest 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.680 guy you ever fought? And he actually said Ray Price. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.240 Mad Ray Price, Rave Price. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.480 But we had. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.640 You will you be Ray Price is because we had 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.640 a camp up in Learning Third and Ray Price lives 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.760 up that way. I think he's got the mentor or something. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.200 But yeah, he was like looking at me like I'm 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.640 like I'm known in my whole life and he wanted 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.080 to say something to me. I feel like he wanted 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:06.840 to say that Rah, I no, you apart would like 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.760 we we had a blue back in the day. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.320 So they had a street like a fight. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.320 So what happened? So Wally told Fletch and other people 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.480 are verified at the time. So they're having Prices having 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.640 a beer after work at a pub on Golden Street. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:22.560 And I'll think of it in a second. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.480 Anyway, they havn't anyway for whatever reason Pricey because Price 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.720 is pretty pretty dude. Even while he get into an 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.919 argument and then Price he says to all, you want 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.720 to go outside. Apparently they went outside and Wally just 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.120 kept dropping Pricey and Prices just kept getting up. They 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.480 said that. Even the police turned up and just went 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.919 just we're not going to get involved with this. We're 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.280 actually we're going to stay out and rate Price. Honestly, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.240 when you talk about legends of the game, like he's 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.080 one of the toughest players to ever played. Like when 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.120 Paramount Paramo had never won a camp until Price he arrived. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.679 Then they win with him their full competitions. After he 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:04.919 retire eighty six, they don't play finals again for another decade. Yeah, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.560 And like even when you had Stirlow and Kenny and 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.760 all some of those great players still there, but Pricey, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.400 the Holy Left was Yeah, so that's great that you 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.200 run India. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:15.040 Yeah. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.160 I feel like it's because I went up to him, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.280 say hey, Brahm Joyson, as I know who you are, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.760 and it's like he wanted to tell me something. That's 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.200 the vibe I was getting anyways, But it's crazy like 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.360 he's got the mental but he knows who are Remember, Yeah, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.480 like you remember that. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.480 Go through about Pricey about ten years ago. Well, two 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.880 things that I think is that a lot of a 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.960 lot of the older players, like I feel from because 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.000 a lot of them, particularly goes like Price, you don't 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.680 just don't get quite the respect they deserve. For whatever reason, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.400 some people become immortals and other people, to a certainly 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.480 Snicket get forgotten. But I remember when that movie The 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.720 Final Winter and in the Newcastle screaming Price he was 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.280 next to me and at the end of the final 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.360 Window they showed just a lot of old players that 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.080 pay tribute to them, and Price he come up and 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.080 remember looking next to me, and he was crying because 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.760 for him it's like like you know, it's the respect 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.760 he deserved and he was just blown away by it. Anyway, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.480 a few years after that, Josh he got diagnosed with 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.600 bell cancer, I said, oh wow, okay, so I ring 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.880 price and I said pricey. Yeah, yeah, it's Maddie. Oh Maddie, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.440 here you're going. I listened, mate, I'm really sorry to 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.400 hear about the bow cancer made here you're going, Maddie. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.279 I honestly, this is the challenge I've been waiting for 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.200 since I retired. He goes, Mate, I'm going to boot 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.000 this anyway. I said, oh, so what's going on? He said, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.080 I mate, I've just left there. I did kumo and 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.920 I just did him a chemotherapy. Now one of the 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.000 people finished, they've got to go home and lay down. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.760 He drains you. I can hear bang bang bang bang. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.480 So where you at? He goes, I made I'm back 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.320 on the building site. Like, mate, he he's a dog 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:51.720 of war. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.680 That's that old school like, that's got. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.159 That or about him. But when you see him like yeah, telling. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:08.560 Just an old like, yeah, he's got that dog. Because 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.360 you're not a bad fighter. You've seen you on the jeans. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:13.000 The jeans. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.279 I don't know if you remember we sparred one time 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:16.320 in rehab. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.000 Rehab that would have been an easy victory. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.000 Tie one hand behind your back and letting people know 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.680 this is rehab in like when we've when we've heard ourselves, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.360 not rehab that like people go to. But we were 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.279 in the yeah, we it was Geelong Camp twenty eighteen. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.720 We were both hurt for one day and we had 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.680 to go and we did a sparring session for like 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.919 to get our fitness in there. And I remember I 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.000 was up against you one day and you hammered me 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.560 like it was only body shots but fire out and 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:49.960 I can't fight, like I don't know. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:50.520 If that. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.160 Really? I mean often mistaken you for Muhammad Ali. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.000 I'm more of a verbal abuse man, that's my favorite. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.760 I'll hide behind the people who can fight, and I'll 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:03.840 just like. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.000 An elephant sting like a moth. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.320 Bruh, whose side are you on from? 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.760 He is with the strength? Yeah? 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.080 Sure, letting What was that conversation like talking when you 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.919 told belly Ache and the boys, like when you were 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.359 going to signed to hold to. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.640 Be honestly, I didn't tell them the fucking ship myself. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.200 Oh really I didn't. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.440 Bells are like I told bells are, but I didn't 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.000 tell the boys. Yeah, like I fucking ship I was 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.080 back then, I hated what's the word, like I hated confrontation. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.240 Confront I hate confrontation. I just didn't have the heart right. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.119 To tell them. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.480 Yeah right, And looking back now, bro, I wish I 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:43.560 wish I had the. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.039 Heart to tell him. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.480 They would have understood that then. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.920 Yeah, I know, just back then I was I just 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.520 didn't have it in me to say it. Yeah, And 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.479 that's just the type of person I am. Yep, but 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.200 yeah now looking back at it, but I wish I did. Yeah, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.400 I'm emotional person. By when I'm sad, I'm sad, I'll 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:03.839 start boring. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:04.520 Why is that born? 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.880 I'm happy on Yeah, yeah, you right the way? Yeah, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.200 but yeah, yeah. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.400 When you left a massive I remember because I was 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.280 trying to work out whether you said it in front 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.880 of us or not in the plain group. But he 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.840 left a massive hole in the group, Like not just 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.480 what you did on the field, but like the off 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.080 the field and o that you used to bring in 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.800 the gym, Like you were always on the ox in 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.320 the gym, and you never had a down date like 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.440 he just never was, never was off foxy, Like he'd 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.840 always get everyone high and leading into a training session, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.239 which is so important for a group when you're playing 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.000 twenty six games a year. And you, yeah, come off 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.880 the back of a bad loss or something like, when 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.960 you have characters in your team that just lift the. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.840 Up or keep even short term. I remember in one 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.880 Origin series, So left Fox out of game one and 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.400 I remember talking to Guy at the time. I was 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.320 critical because there's some things that are that are more important, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.640 well as important as what you do on the field's 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.160 what you do off the field. And that's the reason 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.320 why I think Ja tre Voyage should be picked this series, 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.920 because it's what he brings, that energy and emotion. The 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.480 same with you. I spoke to one of the players 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.440 after Get Bat game one. I said, what was it like? 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:13.800 He said, yeah, it was good. I said that was 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.520 the camp and he said, yeah, it just sort of 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.440 likes something. And I said, let me guess the Fox Jake, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.680 and he went, that's exactly what we liked. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:22.280 it must be. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.520 You were What about when you come back to Sydney 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.920 like being you went down to Melbourne as somebody who 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.080 was looking for an opportunity, looking for a chance. Now 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.840 you leave Melbourne as like one of the biggest stars 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.400 in the NRL, played State of Origin, play for your country. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.280 Was that hard like leaving Yeah? Or not leaving, but 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:43.840 like the distractions of Sydney. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.959 No, not at all, really, ah, not at all, not 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:48.040 at all. But I was. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.400 I also locked into what I was doing at the Bulldogs. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.760 There's some things I wish i'd done better within my 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.319 leadership and all that kind of stuff. Back then I was, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:05.800 I was still pretty young, But I just wish I 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.679 did a few things better as as a leader of 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:13.400 the club. I know, I know they were at a 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.000 rough spot back then, but yeah, like I said, I 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.880 just wish I'd done a few things a bit better. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.760 I had all right year the first year personally, but 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:26.360 as a as a playing group. My my influence on 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.840 the group obviously I didn't. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.880 Yeah, like I said, just wish I'd done a few things. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.040 Well, you're not your own there, Josh. That's life, mate. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.160 We all go through life. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:34.920 I'll do back to so. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.560 Many different things and said, you know, I could have 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.160 handled that better. I should have done that better. That's life, mate. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.760 How did you How did you find like that? Craig 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.400 Bellamy and camera Surralda because Surrealdo is a tremendous fella 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:46.840 as well. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.400 Now here's the similarities there. It's just I feel like 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.080 the the system of how they both want to plays 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:59.520 like completely different Melbourne. I've got their system and Bulldo's 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.120 got the them. It's completely opposite to what I was 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.800 used to when I was down in Melbourne. So I 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.280 pretty much had to start from scratch. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.280 And it's that tough, like trying to buy into a 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.920 completely different system, especially you've come from one that you 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:12.560 know works. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:12.880 Yeah. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.240 Yeah, I feel like it was so hard because I 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.679 was so I'm not talking himself up, but I mastered 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.720 what I did down in Melbourne, and I feel like 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.600 that was that was the best thing for me and 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.040 what I could have done for the group. You know, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:34.440 it doesn't make sense, but it was like, I'll do 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.079 whatever whatever's best for the team, and I didn't want 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.920 to sound like a window or a hate or whatever 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.880 you want to call it. So I just did what 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.360 was best for the group. And I was learning a 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.440 new system. But yeah, I pretty much had to start 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:48.240 to start from scratch. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.800 And yeah, what was what was the cell of the 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.440 Bulldogs because like you're you're the marquee man for that 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.640 sort like they needed a big fish to land so 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.520 then they could attract other players, and you were that 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.600 like you were that guy, what was the why did 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.320 you pick the Bulldogs? 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.439 I wanted to go to a struggle that was a struggle. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.840 I wanted to go to a club that was struggling. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.560 I wanted to be that guy to turn it around, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.079 and that was my whole mindset. Like I could have 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.960 easily went to a good team, but I wanted to 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:31.160 bring bring players, bring coaching staff to the club and better. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.560 And what got me over line even more was the fans, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.840 Like there's sleeping giants or whatever you want to call 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.760 it as well, Yeah, mate, huge, like they're a huge club, 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.240 and I wanted to turn that around. But I feel 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:50.200 like it was for me. I was still young and 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.320 I was all I all I was doing is just 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.760 enjoying my foot, Like I didn't take professional side serious enough. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.720 And I wish I'd understood that a bit more because 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.400 I just relied on my ability. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.480 But I wish I knew what it takes to actually 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.239 be a professional. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.160 Yeah. I think you've been tough on yourself there, because 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.160 the toughest thing when you go to a club that 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.559 has been struggling for a long time, that are almost 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.640 a rock bottom, the hardest thing is getting the bolder moving. Yeah, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.839 and you you're part of that, mate, you know, and 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.440 watching watching some of the games you have, the combination 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.760 that you've formed on that left side and what you 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.280 brought to the team. I thought you give a lot, mate, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.959 I thought you give a lot, Josh, And I think 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.240 you know the success of having here is fair bit 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.079 belongs to you, mate, appreciate that. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.240 Yeah, we look at particularly that left edge like Burton, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.360 kick out Bronze and Cherry that you played a lot 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.880 of footy with when you're at the Dogs, A lot 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.319 of the same shapes that they are executed now, you know, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.520 and kick go out the back. They were the shapes 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:57.120 that you know, you justin Munster and Kenny Bromwich had 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.720 nailed for two or three years. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:12:58.880 You know. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.040 That was Kenny's pet play to then find you for 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.560 a lot of tries. So I imagine that the impact 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.560 and like how you got, how you would have helped 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.280 those boys know their roles in those shape would have 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.600 been a lot, you know. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.439 I yeah, I did my very best to help out 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.040 as much as I could in terms of like the 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:14.680 attacking that. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.640 But yeah, just like. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:19.120 I just feel like. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.800 I just feel like to be too. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.559 I just feel like I didn't get the best out 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:36.160 of my footy there. Yeah, okay, Like respectfully, I just 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.760 didn't play to my streams. So I just felt like 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:45.440 I couldn't. I couldn't what's the word like, play at 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.360 my strengths in the team too, you. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.080 Know, Yeah, I played to you optimum. Yeah, but Josh, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.559 you know the other thing about it is is it Melbourne? Yeah, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.040 you're you're there and and like you said, you've come 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.400 into a side with some of the greatest players of all. Yeah, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.160 you've been taking to the dogs right with this young 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.440 team are who have been really struggling, who are really 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.920 down in conference. Your role was completely different, wasn't it. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:09.840 You know? 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.439 I mean that's what I mean. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:16.920 Like I wish I knew what a professional was. Like I, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.800 like I said, I just rely on my ability. I'll 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.680 be right, Like I'm sore, but I don't need to 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.240 do my recovery or I don't need to do actually 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.760 video like all that kind of stuff. I just always 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.880 rely on my ability. But all that stuff now I do. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:29.720 Yep. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:35.040 That's probably it's probably because of Zero and Kicks and Burdo, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.720 because they become from a very successful club. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.400 It's sort of open. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.040 Miyes that I needed to do that stuff to influence 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.440 the players, especially when Critic come and just went to 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.240 another level. A big shout out to Critic. He taught 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.480 not only myself but a lot of the boys the 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.240 new system because a lot of us didn't believe in 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.120 it because we've I'm telling them right now, like the 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.560 way we train, we work so hard to get. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.080 It right, but sometimes we just could not get it right. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.400 But then when Crita was there, like he just showed 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.400 us that it does fucking work, you know what I mean, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.800 Like I was one of them, that was one of 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.840 them followers, like our tea is right now, Like I 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.920 didn't believe in it because we put so much hard 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.840 work into it into it. But then once Critic come. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.120 He just just showed us, like I just got to 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.720 get the reps. You got to get the reps because. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.880 It is a hard system and it's a very good, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.800 successful system. But yeah, like I said, well. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.440 Tough for camera Seraldo to Foxy. He looked back in 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.880 that first season and go, oh man, you know, because 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.840 it's so hard for him to go from a system 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.880 that's been so successful, but a system where all these 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.120 blokes have played together since they've been in juniors at Penrith. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.720 Suddenly take it to new group of players who have 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.160 been struggling, who are lowing conference and really he've all 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.400 just come together for the first time. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:55.640 You know. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.920 That's you know that that that that is completely different. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.120 But you know, I was sitting Jack and I were 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.640 watching last night, just watching a bit of stuff and 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.880 Crewta came on and I said to Jack, I've been thinking, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.240 who does he remind me of? Right, And he's a 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.120 different body shape and everything, but he's twenty four years 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.400 of age, his size, his presence and his leadership the 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.760 Blake I compare him to his melmourninger. Yeah, going to 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.120 say Greglish no, no, no, but just what he brings 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.160 to the team as far as his leadership and just 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.600 the way the other players look at him, you know, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.560 and the ability to change something down the game. And 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.160 a lot of similarities with Mal because Camp the Canberra 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.640 side mate. When up until when Mal went there they 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.200 were really struggling underachieving club. They bought Mail and Mail 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:45.000 changed everything. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.000 Not just similar to. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:51.520 What's credit to Sarah too, like he we did like 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.800 the first year we didn't have a good year and 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.600 we could have Like there was a period there where 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.000 we weren't going to make the like it was just 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.440 locked in, you know, and we could have easily just 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.400 like fuck around the train and all that kind of stuff, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.680 but Sarah was like, nah, we're sticking to what we're doing. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:09.159 Because he had that belief and that was probably the 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.240 best thing about Sarah, Like he believed in what he 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.840 brought to the club and definitely like, look at the 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.480 results now what the boys are doing, Like to see 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.280 where all the work we put in back then, like 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.000 they're getting. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.720 The results now. Yeah. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.639 Yeah, Like it's I'm so happy for the boys, Like 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.920 because fuck there was tears. Yeah there was blood, sweat 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.040 and tea. I'm telling you those tears, but because we 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.359 worked hard on telling me it's like that. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.400 It's like the Penrith team, right, yeah, like they were 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.600 they had two years of like that sort of back 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.760 end of two thousand and eighteen twenty nineteen. They had 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.000 a rough year in twenty twenty twenty, I think when 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.640 they made the Grand Final. They had a really rough 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.760 start to the year and then sort of come good 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.359 towards the back and making the Grand Final. But you 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.760 see the rewards of like all that hard work for 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.320 three or four years and then they just come through 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.159 all at the right time and they all start peeking 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.399 and buying into the system. Was the one for in 0:17:58.400 --> 0:17:58.720 a run? 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:03.360 Yeah, it's well, it's crazy crazy with Origin. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.960 Like I wanted to ask you out because you played 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.119 a lot of State of Origin and I know how 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.240 much it means to you. Was it tough, like when 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.280 you go to the dogs and then like the team's 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.880 not playing as good as it need to be, which 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.439 impacts your form? Was that tough losing the jersey? 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:20.640 Then? 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.240 Oh fucking shadowy? Yeah? Like did we win the series 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.080 year before? I'm pretty sure we did. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:29.240 Yeah, twenty twenty one. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.560