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Speaker 2: So that's when all the clubs and all that kind

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Speaker 2: Like the money money was good, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: You know what, you'd always loved sitting when you come

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Speaker 1: Put it in a Wally one nine and ten titles

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Speaker 2: You will you be Ray Price is because we had

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he was like looking at me like I'm

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Speaker 2: to say that Rah, I no, you apart would like

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Speaker 4: So they had a street like a fight.

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Speaker 3: And I'll think of it in a second.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, they havn't anyway for whatever reason Pricey because Price

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Speaker 1: Then they win with him their full competitions. After he

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's because I went up to him,

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Speaker 1: Go through about Pricey about ten years ago. Well, two

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Speaker 1: just don't get quite the respect they deserve. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: price and I said pricey. Yeah, yeah, it's Maddie. Oh Maddie,

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Speaker 1: He drains you. I can hear bang bang bang bang.

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Speaker 1: So where you at? He goes, I made I'm back

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Speaker 3: That or about him. But when you see him like yeah, telling.

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Speaker 4: Just an old like, yeah, he's got that dog. Because

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Speaker 4: you're not a bad fighter. You've seen you on the jeans.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember we sparred one time

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Speaker 5: Rehab that would have been an easy victory.

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Speaker 4: Tie one hand behind your back and letting people know

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Speaker 4: I can't fight, like I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Really? I mean often mistaken you for Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 4: I'm more of a verbal abuse man, that's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: An elephant sting like a moth.

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Speaker 4: Bruh, whose side are you on from?

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Speaker 4: Sure, letting What was that conversation like talking when you

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Speaker 3: Be honestly, I didn't tell them the fucking ship myself.

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Speaker 5: Oh really I didn't.

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Speaker 2: tell the boys. Yeah, like I fucking ship I was

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Speaker 3: To tell them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, And looking back now, bro, I wish I

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Speaker 3: Why is that born?

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Speaker 2: I'm happy on Yeah, yeah, you right the way? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, really, ah, not at all, not

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Speaker 2: I had all right year the first year personally, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, just wish I'd done a few things.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not your own there, Josh. That's life, mate.

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Speaker 1: We all go through life.

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Speaker 3: I'll do back to so.

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Speaker 1: Many different things and said, you know, I could have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you've been tough on yourself there, because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we look at particularly that left edge like Burton,

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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, I played to you optimum. Yeah, but Josh,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I just rely on my ability. I'll

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Speaker 2: That's probably it's probably because of Zero and Kicks and Burdo,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 3: The results now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's I'm so happy for the boys, Like

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Speaker 4: It's like the Penrith team, right, yeah, like they were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, it's crazy crazy with Origin.

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Speaker 4: much it means to you. Was it tough, like when

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 3: Oh fucking shadowy? Yeah? Like did we win the series

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's come from Yeah, I think because

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Speaker 1: the next two. I'm trying to remember.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I did not.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get left out of any game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, any game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was true. It might have been trill, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Might have been. Might have been, but that's it's.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, because the year before was when Queenland beat

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Speaker 4: I think that was that might have been.

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Speaker 5: Was that your last series last year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right?

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Speaker 4: But was it hard when you go to the dogs

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Speaker 4: and then you feel like you lose that jersey?

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Speaker 2: Well I didn't score a try till round seven or something, yep,

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Speaker 2: so that was probably played a big.

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Speaker 3: Factor in it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, fun, I was fucking shadowed by like fucking

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Speaker 2: a part of that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that year, like it was just yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Was disappointing because we did we did win the year

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Speaker 2: faith and loyalty would have been nice. It is what

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Speaker 4: Because you played in some fucking cracking serial. I remember

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Speaker 4: I's last series and you played at the MCG I

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Speaker 4: end up winning that series. But it was also Billy

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00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 4: Slater's last one as well. That was when I think

444
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 4: he came in Game three with him and Ponga Ponger come.

445
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 3: Off the benches.

446
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 4: That must be like when you win a series like that,

447
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 4: it must be so good, the feeling.

448
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: The best feeling, like one that won the premiership the

449
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: year before. Then my name was getting tossed.

450
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 3: Around to play this as well. I was like, FU

451
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't read about it, but I was.

452
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: I was just happy with that brother. My name was

453
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 2: getting tossed around to play yeah, straight out. And then

454
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: when Freddy rang me, I was blown away, are going

455
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: to You're gonna play?

456
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

457
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: Like my mum always talk about origin and all that

458
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and she used to tell me all

459
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: the memories and that that because she she went to

460
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: a game and obviously she's in new Support and I

461
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 2: think it was in Queensland because she lived in rock Camp.

462
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: It might have been in Brisbane, Brisbane or something.

463
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, she always used to sit in the middle

464
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: of the Queenslanders. Then she'll be the only Blue support

465
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: and they all used to like Sprayer and that.

466
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Queensland.

467
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: Why my dad's from my dad's side of finish from

468
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: Cans from Queensland, Ya Yarraba from Yarba.

469
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

470
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a Queensland in a way. Yeah, in regards

471
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 2: to my dad'side of the family. So my dad, I've

472
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: got a massive family on my dad's side, and so

473
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: I always want to I want to put that Blues

474
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: always want to be queens because give it.

475
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: To my family, you know what I mean, return return

476
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: to Kansas the maroauding Hero.

477
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: Because they give it to me, like if they if

478
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: they would beat us in a game and that they

479
00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: would give it to me.

480
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Araba is beautiful.

481
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: So the thing Jarabah. I played there one day. I

482
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: remember that we going in. I said to you, I

483
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: was like, I'm playing Yarbra this week. You said, bro'

484
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: from there. At fifteen minutes outside of camp. You to

485
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: drive there and there's a there's a post out the

486
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: front there and I said, it's illegue go to have

487
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: alcohol in there in the community.

488
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: It's one of the one of only two missions still

489
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: classified as a mission in Australia.

490
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: Ye, and you go past this sign and it's just

491
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 4: got all these beers that like obviously the boys are

492
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: walking back in there and they go no more alcohol

493
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: past this point. So they finished their beers and they

494
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: leave them there at the at the post. But I

495
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 4: remember I went in. You get over the hill and

496
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: you're driving the bus down like this, down these like

497
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 4: swervy sort of lanes and it's.

498
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 5: Right on the water.

499
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 4: It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever

500
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 4: seen in my life. And as soon as we're off

501
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: the bus. I was playing for the Falcons against I

502
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 4: played in Yaraba against the Northern Pride, who was a

503
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: feeder for the Cowboys and all the because a lot

504
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: of the community then you like played for the Storm

505
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: and they must have seen that, like we were mates

506
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 4: on Instagram or whatever. The amount of kids come up

507
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: to me like before the game and I'm trying to

508
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: practice kicking you know Josh had Yeah, yeah, I know, Josh,

509
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: he's my cousin. There would have been and half of

510
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: them would have been telling.

511
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: Nine going back there like to see you know, like

512
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: you know with a lot of all the young kids

513
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: looking at a hero worship it is.

514
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: That's something I'm very passionate about, like giving back to

515
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: the mob. But the worst thing about going up there

516
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: is you can't please everyone. They always always when you

517
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: come see me, and I don't know where you leave

518
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: you go to come see me, you know what I mean.

519
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: But in terms of going up there, like I love

520
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 2: going to see family, going fish and going hunting all

521
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff and giving back to the kids

522
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: like at Yarrable, Like it's so it's a completely different

523
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: world when you walk out there. But it's everyone's running

524
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: around barefoot and there's wild horses, wild dogs running around.

525
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: They just live off the lambrun and it's just such

526
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: a special place, like you'd be blown.

527
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: Away if it is actually like we should go there.

528
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: It's actually crazy, Like it's so beautiful.

529
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: They do some some wonderful things within the community, like

530
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: with the kids and that, Like I know South went

531
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: up there. I'm pretty sure they took the Club of

532
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: All Stars boys up there to to the Wiggles went

533
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: there as well. But they yeah, they do some wonderful,

534
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: wonderful things with the kids there, which is good.

535
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: So go to a footy clinic.

536
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 2: Made some freaking footy players out there. When you talk

537
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: about quick.

538
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Really up there, quick mate, I tear Josh like it's

539
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: like I feel the Indigenous boys. I played with Olan Craigie.

540
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: Where's always from It's from Tinger. You've got Preston, Nathan Blacklock,

541
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: Bevan French.

542
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: It's killing of the super leg Bevan.

543
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: When we saw him in Vegas, he just carved him.

544
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: He's one player I hated playing against. He's just so nippy.

545
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: Bro, Like you just baby, there they over there, you

546
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's carving up.

547
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: What about playing for Australia, Josh, particularly going over playing

548
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: for Australia in England. Enjoy that.

549
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: That's something I will always want to be a part of.

550
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, yeah, you're always his stories about Australian camps

551
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and it's that's what they

552
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: fucking say. Like it's to a t like all the

553
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: good times, all the fun times, and b it's putting

554
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: that jersey on and playing with the best players in

555
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: the world. That's something I always want to do and

556
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: hopefully I can do again. Yeah, that's definitely one of

557
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: my goals this year, get back in the representative spotlight.

558
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, now and the coaching staff and obviously the

559
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: senior players that always get picked. Like how fun they

560
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: make it? Yeah, like yeah, we yeah, we play football.

561
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: But when it's time to train, we train hard. When

562
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: it's time they have fun. We have fun, like and that's.

563
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: What I love about me.

564
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

565
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: We're over there for seven eight weeks and we'll probably

566
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: trained maybe once or twice a week, and then the

567
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: rest of the days will be like like spend the

568
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: time together, haven't it be great? Like boys would go

569
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: to train and pretty much hungover, but would killed. Luck

570
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: would carve up the session because that's what he said,

571
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Like if like he's gonna have do whatever, do whatever

572
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: you want, but as long as you training good, and

573
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: that's what we've done.

574
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: Well, malt that off Bob Fortum when Males and Captain

575
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: and all those Kangaroo tours. Bob Thulton is the coach,

576
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: that's the camp. His thing was, boys, we're going to

577
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: train really hard in the mornings and then after lunch

578
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: maybe we might go to we'll go to pub somewhere,

579
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: have a beer and have a good time if it

580
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: was the best time in your life, and consequently you

581
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: play great football. A tear Foxy. You've got to make

582
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: the end of this year, man will drive, You'll get

583
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: behind you, got it. I mean the three Test Ashes

584
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: series Wembley, then Liverpool and New Everton Stadium and then

585
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: heading the league. Wembley will just be I'll see, you know,

586
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: something really special the Australian I'm sorry. When they play

587
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: Test matches and Challenge Cup finals at Wembley, the whole

588
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: English crowd, the Rugby Lue crowd. There's a tradition they

589
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: sing this famous old song called Abide with Me, and

590
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: it is It's unbelievable. It's just it's it's such an experience.

591
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I sait to the boys. Man, I'm going to fly

592
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: over there and just really see the Wembley game. In

593
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: that second game in Liverpool, desperate. It will just be

594
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: something I don't remember.

595
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: You tell them us well your other kids and other kids. Yeah,

596
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: another Rep Jersey, I want to talk to you about Indigenous

597
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 4: All Stars.

598
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: Yes, have you.

599
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: Because did you play this year because you were suspended? Right,

600
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: Sorry to bring that up.

601
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: Tackle, I've gotta watch it.

602
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: They crush the tackles they're cracking down on. Not the

603
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: Wingers made tackles. But did you go into like the

604
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: boys always used to say, especially when Nico and stuff

605
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: went in there, that like you just drive so much

606
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: of the culture stuff and you love getting around all

607
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 4: the boys in there, and they all the boys say

608
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: they come out feeling so connected to their culture.

609
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: Yeah the best. That's what. Like.

610
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: From the first time I was involved in the camp,

611
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: it was sort of like there wasn't much cultural stuff.

612
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: But like once we start having fun and started doing

613
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: like dances all that kind of stuff, you can see

614
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: like I started bringing like love to the culture. Like

615
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: there was there was there was a lot of us

616
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: that was strongly connected, but there were some of us

617
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: that weren't. But yeah, like once me, Troll Cody, all

618
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: these guys that come that played for the first time,

619
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: we just made camps so fun, Like we do all

620
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 2: these dances like at nighttime, late at night and all

621
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and it sort.

622
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: Of just a sort of just brought these cultural leaders.

623
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: Into the camp to teach everyone and make make things meaningful.

624
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: So like when you're when you do a dance, people

625
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: know what you're doing like you actually know what you're doing,

626
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: like what you're representing and sort of like myself, Cody

627
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: and Patrol, we sort of drove that and sort of

628
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: changed it the dynamic of.

629
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: What actual All Stars is about.

630
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're we're super proud of that. Like to

631
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: see where it was then and to see where is

632
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: it now, Like boys fill their cup up after that

633
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: camp and are so strongly connected because they learn, like

634
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: it's only we're only together for a week, but they're

635
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: so strongly connected within that week and how much they

636
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: get out of that camp, and that's what we want.

637
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh, do you think A question is do you

638
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: do you think Rugby lurg in general? Do you think

639
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: we respect the indigenous culture enough?

640
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: I feel like the don't get wrong, we can do

641
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: so much more things. But I feel like the NRL

642
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: do a wonderful job in terms of acknowledging us. You know,

643
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: we have own Indigenous around, We get community involved, get

644
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: young kids involved.

645
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.

646
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: We're and obviously have the All Stars game sorry too,

647
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: So I feel like, yes we do, but we just

648
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: want to keep driving it every day within our game

649
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: because we do feel the love from the ural and

650
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: we do appreciate the people that get behind our culture

651
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: because everyone knows our history and if you don't learn it, so.

652
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: We are a beautiful culture. No cult, no, no, there's no.

653
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: There's many, there's good and there's bad, and culture in

654
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: every culture. So if you learn, if you learn about

655
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: our culture, you'll see the beautiful.

656
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like I'm not saying it's perfect.

657
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: One of the things I'm really proud of is that certainly,

658
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: and I'm guessing every I'm guessing it's every club. But

659
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: people don't really understand this how important sport is, meaning

660
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: those you know, bridges and helping cultural awareness. And given

661
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: the fact that when you're playing a rugby league side,

662
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: like in the sides of it, like those fos race,

663
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: no one gets fuck or give a fuck about how

664
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: many tries to score and how many tackles you make.

665
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: That's it is. It is.

666
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: It's equality.

667
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I was just about to say something, but

668
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: it's I feel like, I feel like the NERR does

669
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: such a good job in terms of like community and

670
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: we need to keep driving it because you want to

671
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: see the next Gregist, you want to see the next

672
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: do you want to see the next Latrob.

673
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 3: Mitchell, Cody Walker.

674
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: And you know you want to put those that support

675
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: out there to average communities because we don't have much.

676
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, straight up, we don't have much. Especially in the country.

677
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Kids don't want to move away from from from their

678
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: hometowns because they want to be around other Indigenous people.

679
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: That's it's just the reality.

680
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: Of it, you know so well.

681
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: And there's I don't want to shine too much of

682
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: a light on this, but there there's a player that

683
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: I played with up at the Queensland Cup. He never

684
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: made NRL, but he would have been one of the

685
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: most talented players I've ever played within my life, like

686
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: a free and he was. He's about twenty eight, twenty.

687
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Nine, And I was like, what's going on?

688
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: Has any NRAL clubs ever flowed around? U said no, No,

689
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: I don't know how it didn't happen. How he didn't

690
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: He might have been a bit small for NRL scouts,

691
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: eyes or whatever, but he was. He was a free.

692
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: He would have been the freakyst player I've ever played against.

693
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: He's said that he's passed away now. But like the

694
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: amount of talent, the amount of talent that doesn't get

695
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: noticed in some indigenous communities for whatever whatever reason, whether

696
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 4: you know, they just don't they're not playing for like

697
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: they don't come to the right pathway or whatever. But

698
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: like there's so many talented kids out there who were

699
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: probably better than some of the players in the RL.

700
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, Old Craigie got discovered. There was a guy

701
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: driving on a road passed a football field in Tinger.

702
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: He was an athlete's coach and looked to the left

703
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: and went on all these kids playing and saw Owen

704
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: and went.

705
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: What the fuck.

706
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Pulled up, went onto the field to Owen and said, mate,

707
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you let me train you. I'll win your Olympic gold medal.

708
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: So not long after that, Owen went to the school

709
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: boy Olympics, won the gold middle one hundred meders. But

710
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: then when he came back sort of chose the path

711
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: again to rugby league. But I remember when I had to.

712
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I had to pick him up from the Newcastle Airport

713
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: and take him in with his with his dad and

714
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: Nathan Blacklock was there as well, and we took him

715
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: to the trial games and the Knights went, don't let Craigie,

716
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: We're not going to try him because there's other scouts

717
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: here that we don't want people. So anyway, Nathan Blacklock

718
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: went out and played school four tries in the first

719
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: half and noone's watching his great mate and just went, mate,

720
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I want to play the second half. So I threw

721
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: him on. He's called six tries six tries and they

722
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: just dragged him straight off, took him down to the

723
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: shards with his dad and signed the contract.

724
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: I always love watching I always watching out of the

725
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: Creer knockout because all the boys get like you see

726
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: the biggest yourself, Latrell Mitchell, Cody Walker, and you going

727
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: sometimes you go, how did the NFL clubs even like

728
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: let the boys play like it's actually crazy and rip in.

729
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: Oh mate, it's a it's an aggressive comp isn't it.

730
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: It's it's it's passion, bro. Like it's it's bragging rights

731
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: like yeah first and other communities and like it's bragging rights, bar.

732
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: But what you can do for like if you host

733
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: or you win it, what you can do for your

734
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: community and the kids. It's it's not about the money,

735
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: but it is is in a way because how much

736
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: money you make you give back to the kids and

737
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: the community, because like so much of money is involved

738
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: because all the sponsorships, keeping parking, all the sponsorship stuff,

739
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: all the canteen stuff, like it all goes back into

740
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: the community.

741
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: But yes, just brag and rights and.

742
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 4: How much how much beef actually is there between like

743
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: who would be? Is there a community that you're like

744
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: that you don't like, that you don't like, but like

745
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 4: you have a history of rival.

746
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: I think it goes with anything like the most successful teams. Yeah,

747
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: well that's Maddie Rose, Georgie Rose and your front Rose

748
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we've had a

749
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: lot of beef on the field. Stays on the field.

750
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: N A B.

751
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Newcastle all blacks that you know, the Briggs boys them.

752
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's Nicols?

753
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: He's he's not Newcastle, He's he's Griffith's Griffith his grandfather.

754
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: He found out his grandfathers from Griffith. Yeah. Yeah, it's

755
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: pretty crazy man.

756
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: When you do your research and you sort of know

757
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: that your Aboriginal and you do your research, you're blown away.

758
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: Like your history mate, what Gordy told me once he

759
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: played for LAPA, Yes, he just got bash it like this.

760
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Then r Rob Blake, who thinks he's a tough guy.

761
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: We're going to go after him.

762
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: I was going over for a try one time. This

763
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: is when I played for where I'm from Red from

764
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: All Blacks versus the NAB Newcastle All Blacks. Yep, I

765
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: was going over for a try and I was literally over,

766
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: like I beat about five defenders stuff. But yeah, I

767
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: was literally diving over and one of the Briggs boys

768
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: come over and just knock me out. There's a clip

769
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: on YouTube and I'm just like, I've just dropped like that,

770
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: I've got no I didn't know where the hell I was.

771
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: I went off, started grabbing my thoughts, myself back together again, sorry,

772
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: and come back on the field and I was scoring

773
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: two tries and we wont to grad finals.

774
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: Man, is there a lot of that? Like like going

775
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: after the nro Ol boys, because remember there was a clip.

776
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: I remember there was a clip on getting around social

777
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: media when they went after Latrelle and Latrell was just

778
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: like standing there and they kept Jersey grabbing him and

779
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: trying to punch him, and then trel was like yeah

780
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: sweet sweet didn't react and then like the next play

781
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: killed like picked him up and just was.

782
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 5: Is there a he for that? Like the boys go

783
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 5: after the Yeah, like.

784
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: The when when we play games, like the players try

785
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: to go after us.

786
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: But what we love is.

787
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Always trying to give back to community because these these

788
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: communities don't see much of us footy players. And that's

789
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: what that's what we love about the Knockout, Like we

790
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: go and show love. I know we can't move around

791
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: the whole knockout because everyone's adotos and all that kind

792
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 2: of stuff, but that's what we love and always getting

793
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: couraged to do is to try to get involved with

794
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: the within the knockout. But if you're not playing, try

795
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: to coach or something and around us. And that's that's

796
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: what we myself Cody, And and did you ever coach

797
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: post footy?

798
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: I'd love to coach really yeah, Like I don't know, like.

799
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: I am at parent now understand how roles he wants

800
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: to coach and how he wants us to play it.

801
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: Just really.

802
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: Understand it, and I know what to say and I

803
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: know what to to do, and so like it's sort

804
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: of given me a drive to want to coach.

805
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: After footage, You've been coached by some good blokes. That's

806
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: the thing you've gone from Belly, Yeah, Cameron, surrender to Risey.

807
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: You've had mal as far as man management everything concern mate,

808
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: you've had a yeah, that's your football education second and none. Yeah,

809
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: I feel like especially at Para, like knowing how Risey

810
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: wants to wants to play. I even like when I'm

811
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: cause I drive from Kelly or to Bilmore every day

812
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: just like I just like I did not really say

813
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: that in the media because I never used to be

814
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: good at it. I never used to know how to Oh, boys,

815
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this? So like I reckon,

816
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: we can just do better here or does that make sense?

817
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: Like I never used to be like that. I'll be like, oh, yeah,

818
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: I reckon, Like.

819
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's a study all the time. But now

820
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: it's like I'm really clear in what I'm saying, just

821
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: because over time and the players and the coaches I've had.

822
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Feel comfortable and you've also you know, you're probably like

823
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: you probably feel comforting yourself where you've earned the right

824
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: to speak up, you know when those young ages where

825
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: you feel like I'm going to get shame because boys

826
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: might think what is.

827
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: He talking about? Yeah?

828
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: But the boys, I feel like the paraboys they've got

829
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: a growth mindset so that the they want to learn

830
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: as the way that roles he wants to play. And

831
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: there's no really like arrogant. There's no Arrogan follows in

832
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: our team. They're just always willing to learn. They can

833
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: see the bigger picture, which I love. Like when you

834
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: have that one toxic guy or a couple of toxic guys,

835
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: that's it's like it's nothing I've ever seen.

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: It bleeds through the side down. It's just so bad.

837
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Do you want to rattle off a couple of names?

838
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: Will beep it out, of course, Foxy, thanks are coming over, mate.

839
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: We've taken too much of your time, but mate, good

840
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: to see you again. Mate, and you just remember so

841
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: I'll just show you this so this phone, it's two ways.

842
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 4: You feel free to ring any.

843
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: Time because I just know I need to.

844
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: I need to. I need to.

845
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: It's right, mate, that's all right, just just letting you

846
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: know that. Like you know, I've still got the same number.

847
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: And I met to catch up with his last time,

848
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: but my old man was driving around everywhere.

849
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: He said, I couldn't take me.

850
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: A license back.

851
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Now, a Foxy, I first appreciate coming over, but make

852
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: congratulations on your career. It's been unbelievable and good luck

853
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: the rest of you. But it's not just mate, it's

854
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: not just what you do on the fields, what you

855
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: do off the field. And you know, for for young guys,

856
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: it's such a great personality made fans love you and

857
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: make good on you, well make you. You should be

858
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: proud of yourself, and your family too may be proud

859
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: of you.

860
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 2: Fox makes a lot