WEBVTT - SuperCoach Draft: TOP 30 MIDFIELDER RANKINGS | Drafted 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.680 Good day everyone, and welcome back to Drafted, the official 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.400 Super Coach Draft show right here on the official Super 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.600 Coach podcast feed. It is your boy Dossie here alongside 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.120 super Coach Draft enthusiast Patch. Welcome back, Patch. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.720 Gooday, happy to be back. Very keen for some more 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:27.400 draft chat. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.400 Episode two. We are going to be talking all things 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.400 midfielders and we're getting into ranking season and to help 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.800 us with our ranks, we have draft expert and former 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.400 member of the world famous Jock Reynolds community. It is Lecdog. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.080 Welcome back, Lecdog. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.840 Thank you mate, self proclaimed draft expert. Happy to be here, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.559 happy to deliver the official Super Coach Draft rankings, and 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.040 everything we see in this podcast will stand and is 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.080 not to be argued with. These are factual rankings. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.160 We are giving you correct, absolutely no challenges between now 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.240 and whenever you're draft. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.760 If you pick a player that is suddenly injured, that 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:08.600 is on you. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.480 It's on you now. If you do want to read 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.759 Lekdog's entire top one hundred ranks, including positional tiers, that's 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.160 available right now on Code Sports. You can go check 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.600 out the entire list there. But at the moment we're 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.480 going to go through the top thirty midfield rankings. And 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.960 just to be clear, this is for Super Coach Draft. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.479 If you want to check out our thoughts on midfielders 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.240 in Super Coach Classic the salary cap format, you can 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.280 check that out on this very feed. Our previous episode 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.679 yesterday we recorded on the lair. We're going to go 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.560 in conjunction with them talking midfielders in Classic, then jumping 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.840 on the Drafted podcast to talk all things draft. Let's 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.040 get started. Let's go through your top ten Lefdog and 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.320 we'll discuss this glorious top ten that you've got. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.200 Yeah, well do you want to go from first to 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:01.400 tenth or tenth to first? 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.240 We start win number one, number one, I. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:05.880 Mean number one. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.520 He's not just number one in the midfield, he's number 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.639 one in the comp he was last year as well. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.800 It's Marcus BoNT and Pelli. He's the best player in 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.280 Super Coach. He might be the best player in the AFL. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.080 Yeah, let's roll through one through ten and then I 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.639 think we'll discuss each sort of little pick there. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.080 So after the bond, we've got a young gun and 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.919 Nick dekos in at number two. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.880 Zachi Butters falls at. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.960 Number three, Zach Mister consistent number four, Caleb Sarong fifth, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.040 Lockie Neil still a top ten player, number six, Andrew 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:45.880 bray Shaw is seventh, Josh Dunky is eighth, Luca Davies 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.320 a Uniac is ninth, and sitting at tenth. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.359 I have Isaac Keeney. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.040 Okay, Well, I think now we'll just discuss a few 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.880 of the individual players BoNT and Dekos top two, even 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.280 Butters third. I think there's no real arguments there. All 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.040 guys that could potentially go one twenty. Butters already did 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.160 go one twenty last year. Dekos, I think it was 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.359 a one seventeen. Maybe talk us through your tiers as 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.679 well at this point, Lekdog, and then we can discuss 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:20.480 sort of further. That's just briefly outline what tiers are. Again. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.399 We did our draft one oh one episode the other week, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.640 so we are going to be talking more at at 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.440 an in depth level now that we're into the official podcast. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.799 But walk us through your tiers in that top ten. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.399 Yeah, for sure. There's a couple of things to note. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.560 If your defense or mid or rock eligible, you'll be 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.800 found in those rankings, not in the midfield ranking. We're 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:46.280 just talking pure mids right the way I do my tiers. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.760 So last year this was highlighted a lot where I'd like, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.720 for instance, Zach Merritt ahead of Caleb Sarong, and everyone. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.600 Lost their mind. Calub's wrong better than Zach Merritt. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.440 I just have him slightly ahead, but they're both Tier 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.320 three players. So to me, the number one on his 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.720 own stand out Tier one player is Marcus BoNT and 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.920 Pelli and you do everything you can to get him. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.840 Then at your next pick, if you had a Nick 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.960 Dekos or a Zach Butter's who I have in Tier 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.840 two available, I essentially have them on equal footing, so 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.599 you want to grab one of them if they're available 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.600 with your second pick, or with your first pick, if 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.000 bonds On available. And then Tier three is a bit bigger. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.440 It's got Merits, a wrong Neil and Brayshaw in it, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.880 and basically it's just I do have to put these 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.479 guys in an order, but I'm basically saying these guys 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.400 are all pretty much in the same spot. You'd be 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:39.160 happy with getting these guys anywhere around your selection, so. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.760 It's not just mt of saying this guy's first, these 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.080 two guys are equal second, and these guys are all 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:44.880 like equal third. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.080 Yeah, and so that when you're talking about mid specific Yes, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.719 and then I use those positional tiers when I'm putting 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.280 together the top one hundred, because I might bump ay 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.360 Tier one Ford above a like a Tier five midfielder, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.520 even though he going to score lower, just because he's 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.560 got a rareer position. So they made him more in 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.640 the top one hundred. But yeah, as you said, Patch, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.360 when we're talking midfielders, if they were if there's two 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.120 guys at a tier three and you're upset that ones 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.400 ahead of the other, they're basically in the same span. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.080 Like, I'm incredibly mad at you disrespecting my boy Zach 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.160 Merritt like that disrespecting. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.000 I think he's way higher then he actually averaged last 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.279 year versus some of these guys. Maybe walk us through 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.000 why you're so keen honor Zach Merritt this season. I 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.640 think you know Sarong was slightly above him. Locky Neil 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.240 was certainly averaged higher than him last season. But I'm 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.640 not arguing against Zach Merritt. He's an absolute gun, we 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.520 know that. But he's very high in your ranks. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.880 He elect He is so one of the key factors 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.960 I put into these rankings instant just their average, it's 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.520 the total points they produce across the season. So Zaki Barrett, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.640 he was fifth last year for total points in the 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.640 midfield and he's basically sits there every single year. And 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.599 for me, that consistency and that availability is really important. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.280 Azak Nick Dakoss is above him just for upside and 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.800 he's just a beast. And then if you're gonna split 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.920 hairs in this tier three section, which is merits wrong 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.800 Neil and Brayshaw, I just feel like Merit for both 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.960 consistency and availability, he's probably a hair ahead of those 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.039 other guys. But you're right, Locke, Neil did average more 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.840 than him last year, and he played one less game 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.560 than him, and it basically comes out at they scored 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:33.599 the same amount of points. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.200 Yeah, a couple of other players I want to discuss. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.760 I know I'm high on this guy. I think I 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.840 have him. I have him a touch lower in my ranks. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.839 I think I have him at tenth, but still very high. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.400 But Andrew Brayshaw at seven as well. From a memory, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.560 I think one hundred and nine average last year. So 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.920 putting him top ten, especially at seventh, just below the 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.599 likes of Locke Neil who averaged one twenty and just 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.520 slightly below Kalb's the wrong with average one fifteen. You're 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.000 expecting big things from Andrew Brayshaw in twenty twenty five. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.320 Yeah, he's another one where I just think there's some 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.560 upside built into his game. I think there's some extra 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:16.320 points maybe available in that Freemantle midfield and you know 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.280 through where I'm hoping that five stops going anywhere near it. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.640 I'm interested to see what Hayden Young Hayden Young's roles 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.320 in the new year. But I just think there's a 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.800 slight bit of upside in him. And again he's consistent, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.840 he plays every game. He scored slightly less total points 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.000 than a Josh Dunkley, but I do think he's got 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.160 a bit of bit upside built into him. So, like 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:44.120 I'm pretty happy with anyone in these spots. Yeah, Brayshaw, Neil, Calebs, Rob, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.560 they're all bloody good. But Brayshaw, for me, he's kind 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.920 of He's very similar to Zach Merritt, And you'll find 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.160 as we go through these ranks. I prefer a higher 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.320 floor than a higher ceiling. I just I mean, you'd 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.800 like both, but I prefer consistency, particularly in draft, particularly 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.080 because i'd recommend if you're running draft, you're not having 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.400 captains turned on. I just want guys who've going to 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.520 play every week and score points every week. I think 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.160 Bray sure merit. They fit the bill in that respect, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.200 and they just get a little bump that as a result. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.120 So Isaac Heeney was all the rage last year being 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.520 a forward and classic people frothed over him, and rightfully 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.000 so he was playing as a midfielder. Has lost that 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.080 forward eligibility and you've still got him in the top ten. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.200 You think he's still a top ten midfielder standalone. Once 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.560 you take the forward the forward situation out, you know 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 we've got Mills coming back. This one has lost the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 Grand Final. Having new coach, you're not worried about his role, 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.840 changing him maybe going forward to fix their forward line problems. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.840 Well taught me through the hen Dog. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.480 Yeah, it's an interesting question. My assumption perats would be 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.439 that his role remains pretty similar to last year, So 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.200 a lot of midfield but also able to push forward 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.400 and kick goals. Yes, Callum Mills will be back, and 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.920 he may be back for two three whole games next 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.960 year or this year. It's going to be really impressive 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.120 when he does. But I just don't see there being 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.720 too much scope for Heene's role to change. Yes, he 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.600 lacks forward eligibility, so he won't be a Classic option, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.520 but I still there's no reason why he can't score points. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.240 I could see argument, so I got him in at 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.199 Tier five ahead of Tom Green, Patrick Cripps and then 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:23.760 No Anderson Christian Petrarca at tier six. You can argue 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.080 that maybe Tom Green out performs him. Maybe unbiased because 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.040 the first time I've ever owned Tom Green and Classic 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.840 last year he scored five points. Maybe I'm biased because 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.080 I'm not sure in Christian Petrarca's health. But I really 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.360 think there's no reason why Isaac Heeney can't outscore Errol Gordon, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.400 Tom Green, and Patrick Cripps in total points in the 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.320 year twenty twenty five. I was really tossing up and 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.720 again this is splitting hairs between Erl Goulden and Isaac Heeney. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.679 I think Errol Gordon's scope to play outside at times 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.600 can potentially hinder the hap on he's scoring, even though 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.080 we know he's got a massive ceiling, but Isaaciny, like 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.640 the Swans, are serious. He needs to continue playing in 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.640 their midfield and pushing forward and kicking goals in clutch moments, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.320 which is what provides really good super coach scoring. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.760 Yeah, well, you mentioned some of those names from eleven 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.080 to twenty. Do you want to run through the full 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.400 list of eleven to twenty four us, let's do that. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.040 So eleven to twenty we've got. So it was Isaacini 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.400 at ten, Eryl Goulden at eleven, Tom Green at twelve. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.480 They're both Tier five, Paddy Cripps at Tier five as 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.760 well at thirteen. Tier six is made up of two players, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.000 Noah Anderson and Kristen Petrarca. That tier is really sort 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.720 of guys with upside compared work to where I've ranked them, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.640 either upside because of age or upside because they missed 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.200 last year with a lot of injuries. Tier seven, which 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.120 is sixteenth and seventeenth, I've got Jack Steel and Rory 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.559 Lead they're your older inside mint and then closing out 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.360 the top twenty and Tier eight, i've got Sam Walsh 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.199 Adam Trelaw, which we may need to talk about Clayton 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.080 Oliver and then Chad Warner at twenty one, and that's 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.120 my top eight tied players. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.959 All right, I'm keen to jump in here and discuss 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.960 a few players. I mean I personally, Yeah, I think 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.080 I'm on board with Patrick. Did you have Tom Green 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.520 quite a bit higher like I did have him? I've 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.200 got him fifth actually my latest rankings. So I just 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:30.040 don't see many players at GWS able to play inside 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.240 mid and if he just I know, the disposal is 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.000 an issue, but you know, they do have an additional 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.080 package up forward this year for him to deliver to 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.640 as well, so hoping that he can sort of clean 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.480 up a few of those inefficiencies and really make a 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.640 massive jump this season. So I'm I'm kind of on board, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.320 although I also copped that nasty classic hit last year 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.679 of the five. But we move on, and I've got 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.880 him pretty high in my rankings. Yeah, interested. Also just 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.360 before we quickly moved on there also got LDU really high. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.320 I think you had him ninth. So but moving on 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.440 to the next bracket and yeah, player's let's discuss a 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.600 couple in there. Obviously, Adam Trelaw at nineteen you haven't 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.640 you said pre show and we now discuss it, but 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.760 you haven't adjusted these yet. Four injuries we've seen. Adam 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.680 Trelaw is going to be out for an extended stretch 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.680 of the preseason and likely the start of the season 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.560 as well. You're going to adjust him down, But how 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.280 far do you think and what do you do with 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:28.840 these injuries in the preseason. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.680 Yeah, he's a tough one. I actually felt like I 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.120 had him low to begin with because of potential injury risks. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.920 So he was the ninth ranked midfielder last year for 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.840 total points, had a mammoth year, and I just didn't 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.000 even when I had him sitting here at what did 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.520 I have him meant nineteenth? I didn't even think. I 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.880 thought that was a risk, to be honest, but it 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.800 was hard to ignore the numbers. But because I was 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.959 worried about his health, he has proven that his health 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.280 is already questionable. So you have to bump him down, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.440 But I'm not sure how far do you bump him down. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.720 Is if he's on the board and you're choosing between him, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.080 Tuck Miller and James Petling, who I have you know 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.520 in the thirties, Are you going to take any of 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:13.480 those two over him? 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:14.320 It would be. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.840 It'd be tough too when you look at the season 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.800 on the whole, because you need Adam trelaw on park 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.840 towards the end of the year when you're pushing for finals, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.079 and he is probably going to outscore those guys when 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.560 he's on the field. The question is can you trust 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.040 his health and so far notes So he probably drops 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.600 from nineteen down to twenty nine for me just off 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.600 the back of that preseason injury, but he is going 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.040 to outperform that on an average basis. It's just how 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.320 often is he going to be on the park. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.439 I had him that far down even before the injury, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.000 basically just because I was pre empty an injury because 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.240 he you know, last year was just a massive outlier 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.800 in his career that I didn't think that it was 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.600 something that Wood or could really continue because it's just, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.520 you know, it's an outlier and maybe maybe shouldn't be 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:04.959 counted before him. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:06.560 Oh sorry, Patchricon. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.200 Yeah, I'd like there's no doubt that these scuse points 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.240 when he's fit, But how many years has he been 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:16.120 fit and played that full season? No, especially his age 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.960 and the club that he's at, who knows. The Bevo 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.800 factor also scares me. Sorry, Dussie, you were saying. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.200 No, I was just saying, on the back of that, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:26.560 what are you thinking? 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:27.080 Like? 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.000 Adjustment wise, we can talk about forwards in the Forward Pod. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.520 There's probably a few relevant names there, but a name 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.840 like Ed Richards, you know, starting to become a name 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.160 in classic circles, even as a potential option. But I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.440 really like him as a player that could maybe go 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.800 one hundred and five plus. Where do you see him 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.680 now that with this injury? Like I thought he could 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.520 perform pretty well regardless of the trilaw factor. But does 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.760 this impact him quite a bit? Or is it just 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.360 kind of like he's going to do what he did 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.000 regardless and those possessions might go to some other player 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.600 that will probably be talking about the Forward podcast, I'd. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.120 Imagine depends on how Luke Beverage is feeling that particular 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:11.000 Saturday afternoon Maravel, Like, it's I hate predicting the dog 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.200 so much because Bebo does throw guys around. Richard's proved 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.200 that he was a good center abounds midfielder and a 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.040 good midfielder. But does he get moved to half back? 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.720 Does he move kind of forward? He's versatile enough that 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.200 that worries me a little bit, so I probably wouldn't 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.360 be jumping on him before twenty maybe a little bit 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.720 further up. But he's a good player, good football, should 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.760 be a good scorer. But I just I've got trust 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.120 issues with Luke Beveridge and he's going to have to 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.440 do a lot of work to come to the table 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.920 for us to resolve those issues, and we'll need to 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.840 go through some counseling before that can really I can 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:47.840 really trust him fully. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.320 I think Libb is another one that is Probably he's 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.240 a guy that I struggled to fit in because I 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.880 was like, is he gonna keep doing what he did 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.960 last year? Was very good last year when he was 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.920 playing and scored a lot of points. Maybe he gets 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.520 a bit of a bump. You'd hope it's Riley Sanders 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.400 is the one that gets the bump. But literally, as 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.359 you said, Patch, who knows. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:11.560 Who knows where? 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.560 You can talk about them in the Fords Pod. Looking 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.800 forward to that. But there's a couple of other injury 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.000 guys here. Sam Walsh of your Blues you're a big 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:23.240 Blues man. Was this factoring in before his hamstring setback 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.040 or was this including no, this. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.040 Was assuming he would have a preseason injury. When I 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.240 made this, I'm mentally prepared as a Carton supporter to 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.200 get the Samwash notification every year. It's a hamstring, it's 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.600 not his backs broken, so it's a step up from 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.360 last year. Again, I think on an average basis he'll 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.880 outperform that, but at some point he's going to miss 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.280 time during the regular season and as a result he 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:50.360 gets bumped down to eighteen. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:51.040 I think he. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:53.960 Is he going to be our I was going to 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.680 say Carton's highest averaging midfielder when he plays, I might 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.880 say that. I think he'll be Carton's highest averaging midfield 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.280 where he plays. I think he'll perform crips and error. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.040 I just don't know how many games he's going to play. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.199 He's going to miss time at some point. You just 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.560 don't want it to be during your Super Coach Finals. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.520 The Jaggers Smith slander from you is outrage. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:15.840 JACKA. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.840 Smith's going to be playing off half back, so he'll 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.160 probably have a decent eighty five to ninety average year. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.119 One the latest on Petraca today from Melbourne was that 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.800 he's getting towards full contact trainings. We're still not there yet. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.080 For those wondering what the update is, there's the full 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.600 yarn up on Code Sports and Harold Son if you're 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.600 intrigued for more. But basically, he's still not in full contact, 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.720 still wearing the no contact hat. So, yeah, do you 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.000 feel like you might move him up if you see 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.000 him in preseason games? You know, if you've got a 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.359 draft after some of those preseason games or you're pretty 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.480 you're still a bit worried, and he's still likely to 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.760 keep him around that mark, even if he's proved to 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:58.360 be fully fit. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.080 Yeah, I'd need to say see him in the preseason 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.040 games because who's he might jump? Noah Anderson, who I've 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.080 got in the same tier. But is he going to 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:11.480 outperform a Paddy Cripps to Tom Green or an Errol Goulden. Maybe, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.720 but probably not. I'm pretty comfortable with where he sits 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.679 given the question marks over him, and he's not the 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:23.160 same type of midfielder that a lot of these guys 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.080 are ahead of him. He's more of an impact guy 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.000 than a massive, massive accumulator. I know he can get 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.240 big numbers, but most of these other guys are like 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.080 they're going to get thirty touches every single game no 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.440 matter what, Whereas I feel like he's slightly more impactful, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.080 so his scoring might be a bit more up and 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.560 down in twenty twenty five than these other guys. So 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.560 I'm pretty comfortable with him. He's ahead of Jack Steele. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:47.960 I think we know what Jack Steel is going to 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.280 give us. My question mark over Saint Kilda is Saint 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.920 Kilda and the various additions they've had in Jack McCrae 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.639 and I mean Jack Carroll's not going to come in 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.879 and take midfield minutes, but they've added quite a lot 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:05.520 of depth to that midfield from other clubs, So I 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.240 think he'll just perform how he did last year and 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.080 Rory lad at seventeen. For me, it was the biggest 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.720 question mark because obviously dropped off last year in terms 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.639 of his scoring, but he's always available and there's an 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.960 opportunity that perhaps he goes back to his old half 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.399 back sort of role and allows more midfield time for 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.760 a James Peetling or a Dorson or whatever. So he's 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.560 a bit of an enigma for me because he could 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.160 be anywhere between one hundred and one hundred and fifteen 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:33.680 this year. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:39.399 Yeah, just on Lair the journo's working over here and 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.399 you can hear them on the Phantoms Lair podcast. But 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.679 Sime and Thomas Wilson mentioned just on the show in 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:51.000 the Midfielder is classic show that, Yeah, he sees Laird 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.040 as he has literally not been training midfield at all 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.919 this preseason, that he's expecting to just be playing as 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.600 a pure defender. So is your ranks kind of yeah, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.560 him at seventeen, he just scores wherever he plays, is 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.879 my guest. But getting that DPP of defender would just 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.880 been added bonus, I suppose from that perspective electog. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.880 Yeah, there's a little bit of that sort of planning 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.960 ahead if you get him, and as the seventeenth midfielder 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.840 taken in the in the draft, meaning you've probably got 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.679 one or two ahead of him, you're gonna end up 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.280 with it. And he does play defense a defensive role, 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.320 you're gonna end up with the best defender available, so 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.040 or maybe not including a couple other guys. But if 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.040 you look back at his years in past, he was 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.960 sort of averaging you know, one hundred to one twenty 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.639 in that defensive role and then he moved pure midfield 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:43.600 and really exploded. 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.240