WEBVTT - So, Who's Type A and Who's Type B?

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're recording on Gadighul country and.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd like to pay our respects to the traditional custodians

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<v Speaker 2>of the Gati.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl people, I know you've got to dig this. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like I've been given like an extra sprinkle of something.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got layers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've got layers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking, I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers.

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<v Speaker 3>You're making a lot of sense to that girl. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been too honest to go. We had a big

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<v Speaker 1>week this week, we did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've been in Sydney for the whole weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it been great for you? Do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you enjoying the sunshine? Isn't it beautiful?

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<v Speaker 1>It has been good. I've had a very social weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>meeting me as friends family. It's one of her best

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<v Speaker 1>friend's birthday this weekend, so we spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time celebrating Kate, which was really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful. How are you taking to the shire?

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<v Speaker 1>The shire is good. I mean we spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time in Krin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the hub of the shire.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, that's like the center point right, that's right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like the heart of the shire.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's okay. It kind of does remind me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like cot a slow yes, but awkward. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually saw my ex's best friend. I saw him walking

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<v Speaker 1>with another girl, and that's probably like the fourth girl

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him walking with.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so funny because my best friend Emily, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw her ex walking with this girl. And as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I saw him with this new girl, because he

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<v Speaker 2>put her through the ringer, let me tell you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a great boyfriend. So I called her and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god. I wanted to warn

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<v Speaker 2>the girl, like stay away from this man.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted to do the same thing because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my girl and last, but then I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I was like kind of wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to like selfishly go back.

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<v Speaker 3>And tell him, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that bad? No, No, that's toxic. I've done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of therapy to be like better than this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we're going to get into that. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about is before that. How And

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<v Speaker 2>then at the end of last week, we had an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible day here at Nova. We did we got to

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<v Speaker 2>work really closely with the you know, with a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people at Nova, a lot of the bosses actually

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<v Speaker 2>the heads of departments and influential people within this building. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to start the RAP plan process and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Worked with wrapping guys just to clarify.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like like it was more like black rides.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally like for my people. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what a RAP plan is, it's a reconciliation action

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<v Speaker 1>plan and it was introduced so that organizations, any organization

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<v Speaker 1>really in Australia. It's a plan to best support First

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<v Speaker 1>Nations people in the business and to I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all talked about closing the gap and it was

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<v Speaker 1>to help with I guess, the closing of the employment gap.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of other like social emotional wellbeing

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<v Speaker 1>parts to it as well, which you wouldn't think being

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<v Speaker 1>in an organization was necessary, but it is absolutely vital.

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<v Speaker 1>I think working with First Nations people to under best

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<v Speaker 1>understand why and how we work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's super exciting for Nova and an

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<v Speaker 2>important step for the future of the industry. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>first commercial radio network that is putting a RAP together,

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<v Speaker 2>So kudos to our Nova fam. We've loved working in

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<v Speaker 2>this building and with this incredible company. So there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be more on this. We're going to actually do

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<v Speaker 2>an episode based on reconciliation action plans, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get you know, experts into to divulge what exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Make a rap about our rap.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that would be pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon usual our target our targets are I just

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<v Speaker 1>probably chat GP my best friend. Yeah, But like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, when organizations talk about rat

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<v Speaker 1>we there was a very different vibe. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>with Nova. I've been on the co design process previously

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<v Speaker 1>with other organizations connected to the Department of Education on

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<v Speaker 1>charity and not for profits, but this one just felt

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<v Speaker 1>very different. It felt a bit like there was a

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<v Speaker 1>need for it and there was like a willingness and

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that. And I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>common uh, you know, themes or words that were thrown

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<v Speaker 1>around or slogans I guess was house proud and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I feel like when you go to work, which

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, we work as freelancers, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very different vibe, right because we're being employed by a service,

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<v Speaker 1>but technically we really just work for ourselves, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>being contracted, so we don't have like an organization that

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<v Speaker 1>we go to every single day like we do come

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<v Speaker 1>here every week and our touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Points in the industry, you know, for me, it's Nova

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<v Speaker 2>and I V and now Channel seven, which is super exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Something will be coming very soon. But I can't say, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, so I'll be working one day a week

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<v Speaker 2>at each of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which is hands and a lot of yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do want to I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>too much into this. I just wanted to bring this

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<v Speaker 2>to our audience and say that there's some incredible work

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<v Speaker 2>that's being done behind the scenes when it comes to reconciliation.

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<v Speaker 2>Context context is important. But I want to do an

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<v Speaker 2>episode based on this where we get Stone Crab in

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<v Speaker 2>the organization that NOVA is working with, and we can

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<v Speaker 2>really go into detail about why it's important, the historical context,

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<v Speaker 2>which is super important for people to.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand a little bit on that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to talk about change.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I think lots of change happening in your

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<v Speaker 1>life right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think that you know that's this is

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<v Speaker 2>really exciting for the organization in terms of change. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about personal change, what's happening and

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<v Speaker 2>the evolution of change, and what it takes for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to create change in their life, to make positive change

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<v Speaker 2>in their life, I should say.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that over the years, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>about my twenties as a decade. There's been ebbs and

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<v Speaker 2>flows of.

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<v Speaker 1>You already exit the twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, girl, I am out. But for the last

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five days of my twenties, right, I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard Challenge very strategic lo.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and it came to me. I was sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>my veranda. I was looking out.

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<v Speaker 3>At the view.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, picture this beautiful blue sky day, me with

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<v Speaker 2>my journal, and I'm writing a note to myself. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm writing about what I want, what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see in myself change. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this seventy five hard challenge that

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<v Speaker 2>has been going viral over the last few months.

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<v Speaker 3>And you will not believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>That day was seventy five days from my thirtieth birthday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that the universe? It's being like ding ding ding ding,

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<v Speaker 2>dpitous so I you know, the next day I started

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<v Speaker 2>and from that point it was seventy five days, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty sixth of May.

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<v Speaker 1>And how are you feeling, like, because you're halfway.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's some revelations that you've had halfway through?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, yeah, I think interestingly enough, I've done challenges

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<v Speaker 2>in the past that have that have benefited me. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done sobriety for you know, one hundred and twenty days

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<v Speaker 2>last year was the length that I did that for.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done small or you know, short term diets or

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<v Speaker 2>short term gym programs that have created a change, but

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to the extreme that seventy five hard is.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just explain what seventy five hard is

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<v Speaker 2>for the listeners. So seventy five hard is a list

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<v Speaker 2>of things that you need to do every day which

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<v Speaker 2>challenge you emotionally, physically, and mentally, I would even say spiritually,

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<v Speaker 2>Like by the end of the day to read those

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<v Speaker 2>ten pages in the book, I'm like, God, give me strength.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are certain things that you need to tick

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<v Speaker 2>off in the day, and this is the list. So

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do two workouts, one indoor one outdoor.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to drink three seven hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 2>liters of water, which is basically four leaders of water.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to read ten pages of a book any book.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to journal, you need to take a progress photo,

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<v Speaker 2>and you need to make sure that you're following a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy diet, so no cheap meals, no fizzy drinks, no sugar,

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<v Speaker 2>no ice cream. So there's a list of things you

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<v Speaker 2>need to do every day and there's an app and

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<v Speaker 2>it really helps me. Accountability really helps me. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I can go in and tick something off, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>is like really beneficial for me. And so this challenge

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<v Speaker 2>I'm halfway through. Some of the challenges that I've found

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<v Speaker 2>within this is the feeling of detoxing. So I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been to this extreme of a challenge where everything that

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<v Speaker 2>is normal in my life has changed. Sometimes I've done

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, no drinking alcohol for a certain period

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<v Speaker 2>of time or eating healthy. Then there's always been substitutes

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<v Speaker 2>for certain things, and in this challenge, you haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to substitute. So it's an extreme challenge and it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it I was going to say, like off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I did like sort of like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say seventy five soft, but I've thought about like incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>some of those things into my daily life. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like i've kind of already not the two workouts

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<v Speaker 1>a day, like that's a bit too much for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I walk twice a day, so I am

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<v Speaker 1>kind of active twice, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be a walk.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those exercises outdoors could be a walk. So

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<v Speaker 2>since I'm really sore, I'm like, okay, I'll run for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five minutes and I'll walk and I'll walk for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty so it's not putting your you know, body through

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<v Speaker 2>the ringer constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I think is like what people could do

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<v Speaker 1>is like seventy five hard. They could go absolutely hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more about just challenging and like making conscious choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, And I think you should challenge yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that like you should push yourself. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>last night, I went for a run. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>that second workout in until nine thirty pm, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went for a run. I got back, but then overnight

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that my foot, my left foot, was injured,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So I woke up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night to a really bad sharp pain on my

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<v Speaker 2>left foot. Took some penalult sort of went away. But

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to take that into today's workout, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to be yeah, to be more mindful that I'm pushing

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<v Speaker 2>my body to the limit, and so maybe I should

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<v Speaker 2>just I might go and do push up some squats

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<v Speaker 2>and chin ups at the park instead of going for

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<v Speaker 2>that run. So yeah, there's just different things you can implement.

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<v Speaker 1>To Okay, So what's what are I guess going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the question is like, what are some revelations that

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<v Speaker 1>you've had throughout this challenge like that have like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, come come to you, Like what has this

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<v Speaker 1>really pushed you on? Is it the physical challenge or

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<v Speaker 1>is it the emotional or the spiritual?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? What it's really made me understand is that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a go with the flow guy. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I go with the flow, the flow is going to

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<v Speaker 2>take me to places that I should not be honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I just think that what I've realized is

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<v Speaker 2>when I have structure, when I have routine, discipline and

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<v Speaker 2>self accountability, those things really help me with my mental

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<v Speaker 2>health and they help me get closer to where I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in life, you know, to my personal goals.

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<v Speaker 2>So going with the flow is not for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm halfway through this challenge and having that revelation has

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<v Speaker 2>been such like a a profound moment for me because

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<v Speaker 2>for so many years, I've always felt like things will

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<v Speaker 2>work out, things will work out, just go with the flow.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I'm realizing is that like when you go

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<v Speaker 2>with the flow, you're leaving it up to other people's decisions,

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<v Speaker 2>other people's you know, wants and needs of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you don't go with the flow, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>really proactive in getting shit done, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're in the driver's seat of your destiny.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're actually like steering the steering your life, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one revelation I've had is to not go

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<v Speaker 2>with the flow anymore. The other thing that I've realized

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<v Speaker 2>is that I've never felt what it's like to detox.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fully, what is dtox in?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll talk about the feeling of detox for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had some big challenges with the seventy five Hard Challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where I felt angry and I've had

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<v Speaker 2>these emotions come to the surface that normally I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>allow myself to feel. So I don't like the feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know many people who do, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to feel angry. So I was having the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of anger, and I was thinking to myself, why do

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this? This isn't natural for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>it happened like what's smallest things. It could be the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that this I put this coffee cup down and

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<v Speaker 2>it went like that and like it's spilt, and that

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<v Speaker 2>would make make me so angry when in my generally

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, that would not make me angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I could read filt milk kind of things.

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<v Speaker 2>The smallest things were getting on my nerves, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking to myself, this is that there's a hormonal

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<v Speaker 2>imbalance in my body currently because I'm detoxing from sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sugar is something that has been a part

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<v Speaker 2>of my life for a long time. Alcohol just all

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<v Speaker 2>these elements that had to go out the door for

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<v Speaker 2>this challenge. They're no longer a part of my world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that there was like visceral reaction to this,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's been one of the biggest challenges. Feeling what

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<v Speaker 2>detox feels like yeah, and I can only imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>hard that must be for people who are deep in

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<v Speaker 2>addiction or anything in their life that they feel like

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<v Speaker 2>has a stronghold in their world and then they have

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of fight through that. I've had like the

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<v Speaker 2>smallest glimpse into that, and it's been a struggle for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So because you're you're self aware enough to like, see

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<v Speaker 1>there is something uncomfortable, see it for what it what

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<v Speaker 1>it could be, but naming it and then be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to like challenge myself on that, or I

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<v Speaker 1>need to overcome that, or like I need to or

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<v Speaker 1>just that's huge, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Just yeah, realize what it is, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just going, Okay, I'm feeling angry, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing really that's happening right now that I should be

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<v Speaker 2>feeling this way. There's no like, no one's making me

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<v Speaker 2>angry like it could. It could be the smallest thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm feeling, like these little.

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<v Speaker 1>Things it's angry or is it irrited? Like are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling irritable?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but like for instance, the other day, my fridge

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<v Speaker 2>stopped working, right that fucked me off, But I went

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<v Speaker 2>to move the fridge. I'm not like an aggressive person,

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<v Speaker 2>and I yanked the fridge and I broke the cord.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's because the frustration of this this feeling. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm strong, so I had to get the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fridge repairman to come out, you know, four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars later fixing the cord and that I broke. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've had that feeling in different areas of my life recently,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can tell that it's from this challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just getting finished.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar cravings. Give me the fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>Kick, Give me the fucking kickut.

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<v Speaker 1>But sorry, that's what I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, but I mean, but I am enjoying it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoying it. And I'm through that moment now. So

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been getting angry the last few days. Good,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've realized what that was. I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>the second half of this challenge and then the day

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<v Speaker 2>that I finish May twenty six, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually fly to Europe. Hell yeah, that evening. Now, what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna eat whatever the fuck I want on that

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<v Speaker 2>plane to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you were flooding your body with like all the

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<v Speaker 1>shit that you've deprived yourself off for like seventy five days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna be a good scenario. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you now because I'm straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Into Rome, Babe, I'm flying into Rome. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get off that plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly pasta pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I reckon, I reckon? Is yourself in no, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Like is the reward for putting yourself through. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be consistent thing in my European holiday,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be like eating, like eating crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>drinking and doing all these things. It's more the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that like when I get off that plane and I

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<v Speaker 2>get step into Rome, one of my favorite things in

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<v Speaker 2>the world is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Good pasta dish. Yes, I'm going to eat that pasta.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I know, like I have been on those

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<v Speaker 1>restrictive sort of things. This is in no way supporting

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a healthy choice, because it like really

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<v Speaker 1>fucked me up. When I was like eighteen, I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing that like that IFBB pro like body like no

0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.200
<v Speaker 1>one really knows this about me, but like yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just literally eating chicken, rice broccoli like every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not And then when I did the calm

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<v Speaker 1>and like, like I just just I honed into all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. I felt so fucking sick and like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's just sort of created this yo

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<v Speaker 1>yo for so many years. So just be like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I think like I support the seventy five hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but I support like having a balance of like reaping

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<v Speaker 1>the rewards but not overdoing it. It was like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you will, Yeah, your body will just not be ready,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you've like you're not deprived, but you've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having these like cravings but you're not giving it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're still going to be there for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I don't know too much about

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<v Speaker 1>my body and science. Like I do like my own body,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just worry, like sometimes that creates such a

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<v Speaker 1>bad cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is what I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that people who are listening this isn't for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to recommend anything.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that you're doing for your I know

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<v Speaker 2>about myself is that if I want to make change

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<v Speaker 2>in my life for me personally, I need to make

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<v Speaker 2>you know, big decisions for big change. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that like I was looking for something I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the search for a challenge to put myself through. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that it's for everyone. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone needs to do it. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that Like, if you love ice cream and chocolate and

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<v Speaker 2>fizzy drink, go and eat it like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can eat it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do what you need to do to make

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<v Speaker 2>you happy. One of the best things in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most joyous things is having a meal.

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<v Speaker 3>So you do, you boo.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hugely courageous for you to do this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's like you said, it's not for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but one. It takes commitment, and you have committed. Ye committed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you're halfway through, so I have to adnore

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge Like that is courageous. The self awareness that I've

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>seen from you. But just in this short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon has like excelled massively. Like I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at yourself. You're not picking yourself apart, which I

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 1>think is the best thing. I think you're you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at yourself. You're noticing some patterns of behavior and you're

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<v Speaker 1>changing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That like that is like, that is growth, that is evolving.

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<v Speaker 1>That is evolution. You're only gonna get better. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also worry, like, sometimes you are very hard on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, And you're like, if I don't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a failure. Yeah, but I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, I'll be honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>I am hard on myself. But I've had so many

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 2>people in my life say to me when I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make change. I've had people come at me with

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<v Speaker 2>the soft approach, which works for some people, which is

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.639
<v Speaker 2>that don't be too hard on yourself, don't be.

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Too hard on it.

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 2>You want that you that for me to create change.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking to me personally, not for everyone. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to be hard on myself because the first thing

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 2>when someone says to me, don't be hard on yourself,

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.400
<v Speaker 2>my mind can go to making excuses for bad behavior.

0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't be too hard on yourself. You know you can

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.680
<v Speaker 2>do this. You're allowed to do this. Why wouldn't you.

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just living your life. Go and have fun. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>be too hard on yourself. I have told myself that

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<v Speaker 2>for so long, and I know that that doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So that's the whole idea of not going

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 2>with the flow. I need structure, routine, discipline, and that's

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 2>not for everyone, but for me to be at my best,

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I need that. And also what I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're creating it yourself, regardless of what people are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think if I, if we flip this, it

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 3>would work for you. I don't think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong you know, No, no, no, no, I don't think

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it would.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're more you know, you're more go with the flow.

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Person, Absolutely not go with the flow. Sure, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where you got that from. Really, when have I

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>ever been go with the floor? Oh? With you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, just like in your own world, Like in your

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<v Speaker 2>own life, would you say you're more of like structured

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 2>discipline us regimented?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, regimented to the fucking ta okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is I would think you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because there's this trend happening now and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like type A and Type B. Have you seen it? Okay?

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.120
<v Speaker 1>So it like there's a Type A girlfriend and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a Type B boyfriend or whatever, and the Type A,

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<v Speaker 1>which is me and I assume. Maybe I would say

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<v Speaker 1>Danny's probably more of a type is that like cat

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>similar to but it's like Type A is like we

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.439
<v Speaker 1>need to be here on time. We like I've already

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 1>ordered us something done, like it's very regimented and very

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<v Speaker 1>well not necessarily because like type B is like this

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<v Speaker 1>really fun like I'm going to be late to the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking airport. I like like run on schedule, like to

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute. Yeah I oh okay, So the opposite okay, yeah, yeah,

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that's so funny because I wouldn't talk about that the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. But yeah, i'd say me is probably more

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of a type BE. She would hate that because she

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.199
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, Type B don't contribute to anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're just the vibes. But it was a joke,

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but like she she does, but it unpacks like uh yeah,

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess for me. When she was reading one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, this is you to the tea where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I need to be leaving at a certain time,

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I need to be at this And you would say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always late, but I'm actually not, Like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like not always.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say always but I think punctuality. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's your strong if that's your strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Suit, but a lot of other people would say it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would what.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've been late to things that we've done together,

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>but other people. I have it when I'm putting a

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>reliance on other people because in my own fucking mind,

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I know what I need to do. But it's everyone

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>else that kind of like fucks me up sometimes and

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I get frustrated at that because I'm not in control.

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Not in control exactly.

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you the type of person that when you're

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.719
<v Speaker 2>leaving the house you say to your partner, So your

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>type of partner, hey, we have to leave it twelve

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty and yes, okay, great, because I do that to Denny.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And she doesn't even look at her phone when she's

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>getting ready, and I'm like, so what I do now?

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 1>And this is now? Because you know, when you're in

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that early stages, it's fine, you know, like you're figuring

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 1>each other arout and it's like okay, But now I'm like,

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I know, I say look, let's get ready, and I

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>get ready in like thirty seconds, like I'm fucking quick

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>at Shiit same and then I sit and just like

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>plot around. I've tidy things and I play to her,

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey babe, just then you know you've got twenty minutes

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and then we have to go, And so I put

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a time.

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah stand so do I yeah?

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And that that is like an hour before we need

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to be there, like or like forty five. I work backward.

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I work backwards. I'm like, okay, we need to be

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>at this time. Okay, so we need to be leaving,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm going to give it like forty minutes to

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>like whoever wherever we going, Like if it's a podcast,

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>it's an hour away. So like I'm working backwards, right,

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and I give her like I get ready so as

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>soon as I fucking can, and then just allow her

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>to have the space and time to do what if

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>she needs to do?

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Does she make it on time?

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 1>She still plots around, I must admit she's like, oh, still.

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Haven't they like all the take you know, Like, for instance,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a scenario with Danny. We'll be eating breakfast.

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll finish my breakfast, I'll brush my teeth, and I'll

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>come out. He's still sitting at the breakfast table. All right, Well, babe,

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna leave at nine thirty, so that's like in

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 2>seventeen minutes because just in case there's traffic, we have

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 2>to be there.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>He will get in the shower and have a long

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>hour shower, like he's got half an hour, you know,

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So then knock on the shower door, Hey babe, just

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>so you know, we've got about ten minutes, and then

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>we're going to go, and then we're going to go.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And then that last two minutes he's scrambling. I'm like,

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you had all the time. You had all the time.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm type A when it comes to my relationship. Actually,

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm type A pretty much a lot. Yeah, I know

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>where punctuality comes into it for me, and it comes

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>into it from my childhood. I've worked to this and

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I already want to get into therapy because therapy has

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 2>helped me change a lot as well. But one thing

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 2>back in therapy. I am back in therapy, whew, and

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 2>with a new therapist, I really enjoy Okay, very practical.

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>She writes the whole time. It's like she's that medium

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>who's seeing things on the other side.

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I love her. She's like, yep, and what was their

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 3>names like she's got She's gonna.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Have a fucking novel by the time I'm done along with it,

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 2>have all those pieces of paper, and so anyway, I

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk about punctuality only because in therapy I

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>came had a realization that when I was younger, I

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 2>was so scared of people not turning up because my

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>mum never turned up. Even my dad when we moved

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it moved with him, was never punctual. I was always left,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 2>So was left at school waiting until the sun, you know,

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>was going down for her to pick me up, or

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>left in you know, the refuges and she'd be out

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>all day. So like there was a lot of the

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>times that I was just left as a kid and

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>waiting and waiting and waiting, and she would say, I'll

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>be here at this time.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 3>She just wasn't.

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that's in a work that I

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>have to work on it and knowing that not everyone

0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be on time in my life and that

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, But it is something that I know that

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 2>is a personal trigger for me.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>You know it is for me as well, which is crazy.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And every time I have been late, I have honestly

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 1>felt anxious the whole day, Like it's it's triggered me

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>so much that if it's a morning thing, it's triggered

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>me that much that it takes me a while to

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>actually come back and like recover from that. I know

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it sounds so small, and so they are, and like

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be early so then I have like the

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>minute to myself to actually just decompress, like today, like

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I just had a spad minute to get a coffee, sit,

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>do my emails and then I was like, Okay, I'm ready.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 3>To go like that, you know, black fellow time. Yeah,

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 3>it's but it actually is a thing.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Frustrates me.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>It frustrates me as well. But it actually is a thing.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It is the opposite of of who we are inherently

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>as people to be so rigid and structured. Even though

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 2>I say to you, I can't go with the flow.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Our culture is very much go with the flow.

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of other cultures are as well. So

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>like mem and and I we were with her parents

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and her dad and her Samum was talking about how

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like her family is very go with the flow, and

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, my family like that as well,

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but I just cannot.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>The opposite and I think it's because the guy with

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the flow didn't work for me as a young person,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 3>so I've seeked out this structure and routine, which you know.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Well it helps you have control with your life totally

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of things I think in your early childhood. Personally,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, this is not just as my experience is

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't in control a lot of things when

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I was younger, so I tried to do that now,

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like routine and structure have helped you get to where

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you out have. Really, I think in my early childhood

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things were not in my control and

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the biggest growth and learning and pivotal moments were you know,

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>huge trauma moments. But in those moments it helped me

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>have a perspective that was like, okay, we'll press reset,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Like we can press reset here in a sense, it's like.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>How many times do you think you've done that in

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 3>your life? Press reset?

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Quite a few times? I think moving away from my

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>family when my mum died and like choosing to live,

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not really choosing. I didn't really have anyone else

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to, Like this is a sad reality, and

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I often am quite dismissive of some things

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in my life because I'm just so desensitized as you

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>would know life, and I think, like I need to

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>not do that sometimes, but it just helps me like

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>not be so consumed. Yeah, I don't want to live

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>in it. I'm really happy with where I am. But

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Mim like was obviously trying to unpack a little bit

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>about my life, and she wants the best better I

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>understand me, and I get that, and I have to

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>explain things to her and provide context because sometimes I

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>could just be like so blase about it and she's like,

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>where does that come from? In this relationship, I've like

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>honestly felt the most calm I've felt in a relationship,

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like the most secure, and it's so crazy, Like normally

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably be a little bit more leaning towards the

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>anxious attachment kind of style, but in this relationship, like

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>love Mim, and she acknowledges this, but she's probably more

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of that anxious attachment where I'm the secure one, which

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is so different to what I'm used to. But it's

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because I love her so much and that I want

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it to work, and I see so much potential in

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>our relationship and I want to try and be like

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the rock and like the ground for her, which I've

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>always been for everyone else, but I've never been with

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>someone that makes me feel so secure in that as well. Wow,

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>so she's also like pretty secure in herself, like you know,

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I like, and it's so nice. There's a nice little balance.

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But what I've noticed is that in moments like I

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>try to control the environment, but I have really taken

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>my pedal, my foot off the pedal in some things.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So like I will have an idea of like, yeah,

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we need like we need to do like I guess Perth.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>We're going to Perth this week. She's meeting my family

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Friday afternoon.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 3>This is out. You would have already gone.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, but I'm just you know, and I feel

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like in my head, I like already know what my

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>family going to be. Like, I've got to try and

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>control the situation where she won't have like an uncomfortable

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>experience whatever.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Family.

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>No, we're house sitting, which is good away from everyone,

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>but like in my head, I'm like, okay, you know,

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like no, no, no, no, I can't. I've got

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to let her figure it out. Let them, yes, let

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>them and like, I think that's been a big growth

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>for a moment. Is like taking my foot off the

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>pedal at different points and not trying to control every

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>single environment and just letting it unfold how it should.

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's been the best thing I know.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 3>My therapist said to me once, stop manipulating the world.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's a control thing.

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a control thing. You want to be able to

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 3>feel secure and safe.

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. It's it's okay to control the environment

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to make you feel safe. And I think that's probably

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I really talk about that calmness, is

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that I feel very safe in this relationship. I feel

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>very seen and it's so fucking crazy because I have

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>not felt like this in such a long time. It's insane.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I literally like shake my head every day. I'm

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like how the fuck? Like was I doing it wrong

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>all this time? But I was like, I've just met

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a great person who makes me feel that, like you

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>And I yeah.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But I guess I was talking about those pivotal growth

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>moments is that I've had to make really big decisions

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in those moments and I didn't know they were going

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to be growth moments or like pivotal moments. I was

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>just making decisions, but those decisions were I guess, like

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in survival mode. And I think my thing is that

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in survival mode anymore. Yeah, I'm making decisions

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>based off joy and not surviving. Isn't that crazy? Like

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, let's do that because it's fun, And I'm like, no,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>let's not do that because I need the paycheck, you

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like it's it's actually so cool,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm like, what are so what are we going

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to do today? We don't have a plan. And I've

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>actually realize that I am helping also mim help heal

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>her relationship with her family because I crave family so

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>much because I love my family and I'm not away

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>from them that I'm like, oh, let's go hang out

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>with your family, and she's like, I don't. I don't

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 1>do that, but like let's do it. And I'm like, okay,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>well she used to do it and she is getting better,

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Like she's.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, I can resonate with that. Paul I

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 2>did that with his family. But what I will say

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>to that is that was one of the most appealing

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>parts of our relationship. The family unit and reflecting on

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that that that actually.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Was a major part as to why I stayed.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed the family unit and the stability and the community.

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<v Speaker 2>So just not that that's what you're doing, but being

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<v Speaker 2>aware of that is important. But I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes when she goes back to your family.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's touch on that in the next like how

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<v Speaker 2>that trip went.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd love to know more.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can get mem on and tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>her Perth experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she'll come on, she'll be like, I'm gonna unload.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's probably a good place to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>because we've been Jana for a little while now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to hearing about your Perth trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to just finish this off by saying like

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of Like like I said before,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of courage to want to grow

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<v Speaker 1>in stepping out and being uncomfortable. And I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've spoken about self awareness, which I think is really

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful to have that a lot of people don't have

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that self awareness, and I think that kind of having

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>an understanding of not just yourself, but I guess also

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>how other people work and how other people contribute to

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>your life is huge perspective, Like I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing. But I think the best thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>for what you've said, because I've learned so much about

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<v Speaker 1>having a challenge and like you know, what come comes

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>through is that you are continuing to strive or to choose.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I think choice is huge to not limit or reduce yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the best thing is that you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always draw inspiration from you at some points

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes I can get stuck in a cycle and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm quite content, I'm happy because nothing is

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like sparking off and going bah, and I'm like, okay

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to just chill for a moment, right because if I

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>start changing things, that's when I'm like not comfortable, and

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 1>like I'm okay with that. There's been moments when I've

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>been okay with that, and you know that. But I

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's like both of us are always like pushing

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<v Speaker 1>to grow and evolve because we refuse to let us

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.240
<v Speaker 1>let ourselves be small and small, like not like science wise,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean small as in like limit ourselves to a

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>life that we think that we don't deserve, or like deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand what you're saying. Our whole lives, we've always

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<v Speaker 3>pushed for.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>A better way, and I just encourage other people to

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>do that. Like I think, I get really confused, I

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.959
<v Speaker 1>guess a bit perplexed about how people can just stay

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in the same city and do the same thing. But

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>if they're happy and content, I have to accept that

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and respect that obviously. But I'm like, there is such

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a bigger world out there, and there's so many people

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to me, and there's so many things to learn. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you not want to enjoy that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything is possible as well, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes you can be so wrapped up in your world,

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>but when you have new experiences that bring on growth,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 2>like you really open up your world. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>encourage people to take on a challenge, any challenge that

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that may be. It might be that every morning when

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 2>you get up that you journal. It might be that

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you go for a walk, it might be that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also like people think that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have like some sort of mental health condition or some

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of trauma to go see a therapist. But I

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>really encourage like going and speaking to someone biased. Yeah,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like it might take your way, might take you a

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<v Speaker 1>while to like find a therapist, but like, I just

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>think therapy is just really helpful to just like talking

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<v Speaker 1>and just like verbalizing shit. Yeah, because when do you

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>ever really unload and verbal other than in your relationship

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>or like to your family, like, but to someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>like unbiased.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyways, that's my little tip and trick.

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<v Speaker 2>But take it into your weak mob. But that's all

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<v Speaker 2>we have time for today. Yeah, if you love what

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>you hear, leave us.

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<v Speaker 3>A little writing in a little review.

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<v Speaker 2>We always love to hear from you, so I want

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<v Speaker 2>to just whenever we receive your messages online or on socials,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've received a lot lately about the pod and

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, So keep them coming. Jump in the DMS.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always up for a chat. My handle is at

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<v Speaker 2>It's Mattie Mills Brooks is at brook dot blurton and.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week. Bye bye