1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Healthyish. Thank you for joining us today on 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: this almost early podcast and Body and Soul. I am 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Felicity Harley. Hope you have had a healthy Ish week. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: And joining us as it's a Friday, is our digital 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: editor Holly Berkeleman. And we are chatting through the three 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: well let's call them hottest stories in the health and 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: wellness world this week. Holly, welcome back. 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Hello, how are you fless? 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Good come? 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: I'm well, Thank you. I have something to share that's 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: happened in my baway. Tell us it's not super super 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: health adjacent, but I think wellness adjacent, so therefore relevant. 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: Have you had your colors done before. 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Years ago? 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay, is this where you see your season? Yes, it's 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: been trending online for months. I was at an event 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: for work the other day and they had someone doing the. 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Colors for it. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: I guess, yes, yes winter. No, I am a light summer. 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean not that I actually even remember 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: except my own. 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: No, I am a light summer, which means you're slightly 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: cool toned. But the contrast between like your hair and 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: your skin is not as intense as the contrast for winter. Anyway, 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: I have gone into this, you know, knowing that my 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: colors are kind of like I look good in red. 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: I wear a lot of black. 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: No, no, wrong, So what colors? 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Pastel's fliss? Have you ever seen me wear a pastel? 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: No? 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking forward to seeing these pastors come out. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm light pastals, Yeah, lovely, but I just don't 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: know if they're very me. And now I've just had 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: to like, it's turned my life around. I always see 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: you in here in black all the time. 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Okay, black begone. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: I know, black begone. I'm allowed to wear a light 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: gray apparently, so I might have to just win on 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: that on the pinks blues and yeah, anyways, that's shaken 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: up my work. How are you? Well? 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: That's brighton my morning for flat today? 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: What's happened? 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Well, I did a yoga class last night. I haven't 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: done this teacher. I haven't done a class with her 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: for a long time. And I just and she was 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: all about clearing energies and chakras. 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Okay, and as well. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: As doing she's she's quite we do a lot of 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: strong poses. But I woke up and I am exhausted, 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: knack it. I think I had I was carrying a 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: lot on my energy resentment. Apparently shoulders is burden and 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I feel free but exhausted. 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe that's the first step in the path 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: to hire freedom and I'm into restored energy. You've got 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: to clear all the energy out. 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: First, Okay, am I going back for next week? 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: Well stay tuned, guy. 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Anyway, hit us off with a story that grabbed your 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: attention this week. 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: So I love this story. This is by Alexandra Costa 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: and the headline is sorry I just saw this why 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to explain why I'm not replying to 64 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: your messages, which I think is such a good line. 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: So good. 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: So it tackles the idea of urgency culture, which you 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: may or may not have heard of, but you definitely 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: will have experienced. So urgency culture is that need to 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: immediately respond to messages and that kind of constant availability, 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: which is exacerbated by our pervasive use of technology. Like 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, we're all attached to our phones at all times. 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: We can be contacted on a litany of social media platforms. 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: We're extremely accessible these days. So while that should make 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: it easier in theory to get in contact with people, 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: it can actually make messaging a lot harder for people 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: as well. Have you ever found that, Fliz, Yeah. 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean I am a sucker. I am right 78 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: in the depths of this urgency culture. 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm feeling it big time. Yeah, I'm not 80 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: proud of admitting that. No, That's exactly what Ali says 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: in this piece is that while she's super super accessible, 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: she's also found that she finds it really difficult, like mentally, 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: that she's meant to reply to all these things when 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: she is an inherently bad messager and she's bad at. 85 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Replying to be rude and you shouldn't. 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: Well exactly you feel rude. But then it's also like 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: she's trying to survive in your day to day, which 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: is hard when you're expected to be so responsive to people, 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: but you're also dealing with your own things as well. 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: So she spoke to psychologist Carlie Dober for The Peace, 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: who says that a lot of people feel really overwhelmed 92 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: by the expectation that they need to reply to people instantly, 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: and that's especially hard for people who have ADHD or 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: even anxiety, and can feel even harder to actually, like, 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: you know, find the energy to dedicate to that type. 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: And she also mentions that we don't really have, you know, 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: a common consensus on what is or is not expected 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: of us with our phones, Like there are no set rules. 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: So while one person might be trying to like, you know, 100 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: have some boundaries and find you know, time for themselves 101 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: without replying to people constantly all the time, other people 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: might not be like that. So it's hard to have 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: those rules exactly. So how can you divorce yourself from 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: urgency culture? Number one is to try and recognize that 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: people have different communication styles, that we're not all going 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: on the same rule book here, and that someone not 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: replying does not it's not a comment on your inherent value, 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, absolutely, yeah. And then she also 109 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: says that if you want to try and step back 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: from that, then you should try drafting a message to 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: your loved ones and saying that that's what you're trying 112 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: to do, that you're trying to step back and take 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: a bit more time. 114 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: I like that great story. 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: It's a great story. Or give it all a read 116 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: and you can have a proper, proper read through. 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: Well, mine's a bit more perhaps ellacious. Have you seen 118 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: this doing the rounds? 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Ris and pick I have, and frankly, I'm traumatized by 120 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: trying to report on those drugs on body and soul 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: because it is a minefield. 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I saw this and it just made me think, 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: when are we going to stop these ridiculous nutrition trends. 124 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: I mean, we had Oats and pick earlier in this year, 125 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: and Rice and Pick is here. It's across socials, it's 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: in headlines, of course, it's on TikTok. It claims it's 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: an inexpensive alternative to weight loss drugs and other meal 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: plans that cost money to be delivered to your door. 129 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Basically what rice and Pick. Well, the people that are 130 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: spooking it claim that it can suppress appetite and aid 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: weight loss by drinking this concoction every morning. What is 132 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: in the concoction rice water and lime. 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Juice sounds so disgusting, Actually. 134 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: It sounds putrid. So I'm not going to tell you 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: how to make it because I don't want to spook 136 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: bad health advice on this podcast. 137 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: No, thank you. 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: But we know it's BS. I mean, of course we 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: know it's not gonna work. Yes, it's going to fill 140 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: you up. It might suppress your appetite for a short 141 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: period of time. It's low cow starchy water that will 142 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: make you feel full. But we all know the best 143 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: thing for weight loss is exercise, nutrition, increasing fiber, et cetera, 144 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: et cetera. But what this made me start thinking is, like, 145 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: we talk about a lot. We talk about these TikTok 146 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: trends a lot on this podcast. We share them, we 147 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: have a laugh, we always debug them. But do people 148 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: actually take them seriously? I think they do. They do, 149 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: because you know, people see a lot of these people 150 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: on TikTok and social media as like an authority, which 151 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: we probably shouldn't most of the time. Exactly. Well, I mean, 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, because I went into a bit of 153 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: a deep dive thinking do people actually believe these I 154 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: mean people taking them and actually using rice and pick 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: to lose weight. Well, a recent study came out I found. 156 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: It's from April, it's from my fitness Pal, and it 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: found that yes, at fifty seven percent of millennial and 158 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Gen Z users reported being influenced by or frequently adopting 159 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: nutrition trends they'd found on TikTok. 160 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Yikes. 161 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so guys, not good. And the same study found 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: that only two point one percent of nutrition. Content on 163 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: TikTok was fully accurate when compared to public health and 164 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: nutrition guidelines. 165 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Wow, so yeah, big have we're getting your content from 166 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: people to fact check that stuff absolutely. 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: And follow legit people and have your critical thinking lens on. Like, 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: just because someone uses it and claims it works doesn't 169 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: mean it works. And we know that we probably innately 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: know that it won't work, but we're like, oh well, 171 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: just give it a try. 172 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: Any people want the magic pill exactly? There is really 173 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: no such thing as a magic. 174 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Pill, No such thing as the magic rius. 175 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, as the magic rice water. 176 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: That was so lime. So anyway, just before we go, 177 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: give us a rundown of the most clique story of 178 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the week. 179 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: Most clique story was eight things happy couples do, according 180 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: to a relationships expert. 181 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: We spoke to a. 182 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Pair of relationships expert relationship experts who are also a 183 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: couple about what really makes a happy couple, and they 184 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: say that there are eight simple lessons that really set 185 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: them apart. So just give you a couple. They don't 186 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 2: take their relationship for granted. They put things into perspective, 187 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: They keep doing the nice things even when they've been 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: together for a while. And they focus on themselves, and 189 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: then they also keep developing sexually, which I think is 190 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: an important one. You can read the full list on 191 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: bodysoul dot com dot ye, but there are some really 192 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: nice tips here. I think if you're looking for some 193 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: sort of guidelines from a happy couple themselves, these are 194 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: some good ones. 195 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: See you next week. 196 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: I'll see you then. Bye. 197 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Well listeners, If you have any ideas, any crazy trends, 198 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: any research, anything that you want us to talk about 199 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: on the Friday EPPS, we are open to all suggestions. 200 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: You can dm us at Body and Soul on Instagram. 201 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: I am at Felicity Harley. Go on hit us up 202 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: and we will talk about it. I hope you did 203 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: enjoy this chat. Thank you for joining us. Please tell 204 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: us if you did, you can rate and review this podcast. 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribing. That would be wonderful. 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