WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 21 January 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.800 Lately. Welcome the Late Debate. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.360 Well, thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.760 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.040 up tonight. Not everything went according to planet. Donald Trump's 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.600 inauguration will show you what went wrong, plus the African 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.160 American preacher who almost stole the show. And then when 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.560 we look at what's making news tomorrow, the Queensland LNP 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.360 were elected to get tough on crime but already are 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.120 being criticized for not being tough enough, and police reveal 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.080 they're investigating the possibility that foreign actors have been paying 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.559 for anti Semitic attacks here in Australia. We'll get to 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.280 all of that a bit later, but of course the 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.280 big news today is that Donald Trump is President of 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.960 the United States all over again. The forty fifth president 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.720 of the United States is now also the forty seventh president, 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.360 making him ownly the second person to be president twice, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.360 but with a gap in between presidencies. We'll show you 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.320 some of the highlights of his inauguration speech in just 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.640 a moment, but before we get into that, listen, Joe, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.679 I want to ask you just your overall impressions of 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.480 what transpired today, Liz. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.880 Can I just say massive lack of jubilance with this opener? 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.080 Mac, I mean he said it was Oli the greagda was. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.080 I mean, this is the best day. We are saved, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:28.160 essentially literally, we have a commander in chief, a commander 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.000 in chief of the free world who can actually walk 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.760 all by himself, and he doesn't trip, and he does stairs, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.960 and he has already thrown out eighty pieces of trash 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.160 from the Biden administration. We'll show you clips of that 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.800 coming up. This is a turning point in the Western world, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.280 as it was back in twenty sixteen, when, to the 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.040 shock and horror of a lot of people, this guy 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.680 first darkened the doors of. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.320 The White House. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.920 And this second time is going to be a heck 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.640 of a lot more leaf Why because this time the. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:03.840 Guy knows what he's doing. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.960 He's not rocking up being like how do I fill 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.760 ten thousand bums in seats, which you've got to do 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.200 when you become president like that, which was what Project 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.720 twenty twenty five was all about. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.840 But of course not, No, we had to distance himself 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:16.080 from that. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:21.040 This is going to be a life changing, game changing 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.720 four years now. I'm prepared to be disappointed on a 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:25.639 few accounts. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.880 I talking about government. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.560 I know what I'm in for, but those promises that 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.440 were broken last time he was in again. This is 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.760 a very different Trump term. He is different as a person. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.320 But secondly, he's ready this time. He's not the new 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.720 kid on the block. He's got friends in positions of power, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.040 and he means business. I cannot wait for the next 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.399 four years. It is going to be completely and utterly Joe. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.640 Do you share this as exuberance? 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.400 To paraphrase Captain America in the Avengers, there's only one 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.120 messiah man, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.880 So I don't think. I don't think Trump is not. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.799 Believe I ever made, and I never would make it. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.240 It's out of a lot like it, out of a 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:16.679 lot like it. I don't think. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.280 I don't think Trump is going to save the world 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.400 or fix everything, but I don't think it'll be very interesting. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.480 I do think he has the courage or the cojones 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.600 to do things that other administrations have always said can't 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.640 or shouldn't be done. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.760 This is what I'm talking about. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.840 I think the reason Let's see, I mean, I'm all, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.800 I'm all you know. I'm waiting. I've got the popcorn. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:39.520 I'm ready to go. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:44.000 But I think the Hamas cease fire for better or worse. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.400 I think that was very much a result of Donald 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.760 Trump setting that deadline with that sort of sort of damocles. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.240 I'm going to blow you all the kingdom. Come if 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:53.880 you this isn't sorted by mine. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.160 This isn't changing the world according to you. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.280 No, No, I think I think it is. I think 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:58.720 it is good. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.920 But whether or not that ceasefire last, and whether or 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.040 not we've just released almost two thousand terrorists for the 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:08.960 sake of thirty three innocent, wonderful, poor, long suffering people. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.320 But again, it's going to be a pretty interesting scenario. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.800 I think the same with Hesbela and Iran. I think 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.880 they're both playing nice because they're scared of Trump. It 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.599 looks like Zelenski and Putin will probably come to the 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.719 table as well. But you know, some of the other stuff, 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.120 it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.520 One thing that I that really struck. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:32.040 You're just talking about foreign policy. I'm talking about America itself. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.200 The calls that he is already made by these executives. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.160 We live a very day that he was sworn in. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.120 But it's American foreign policy. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.120 Saying America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.239 And here in Australia, especially when. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.080 That guy is in the White House, people catch the 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.240 big dog energy. We saw it even in Morrison to 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.360 an extent, and good grief, if any guy can get 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.679 a whiff of big dog energy and were a miracle. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.000 I couldn't believe that even Morrison was subjected to this, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.320 and it seemed to have a small effect even on 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:08.440 someone like him. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.119 We saw this in the UK. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.320 There was such an emboldening and this is on the 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.719 back of already and emboldening. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.840 That we're seeing across the Western world in. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.279 Europe as these conservative, far more conservative, right leaning governments 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:24.520 come to power. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:30.120 Now we have the lynchpin of the free world. Look 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.560 certainly estimating certain. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.200 Again, he started to sound sort of a bit crazy. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.040 I don't think it's going to be all perfect. I 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:46.400 don't think all the problems will be fixed, Joe, but 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.760 I think that there. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.920 Is a momentum and it is this is glorious. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.160 Well, I think what is what is good is obviously 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.520 that he is he has you know, that the death 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.719 of work is good. That is fantastic. The fact that 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.480 identity politics is dead in the water, it is fantastic. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.560 It'll be interesting to see how is there are only 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.120 two genders things works, because that is going to create some. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.480 Just technical difficulties. Yeah, sure sure. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.080 And then the other big thing is Orcus, of course, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.080 so we want to make sure that the US is 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.320 still all in on Orcus. Trump has always been a 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.760 sort of America first, American exceptionalist kind of guy, and 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.760 that is totally fine for Americans and America, but Australia 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.680 needs American protection. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:30.719 Liz is over the moon. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.760 This is the greatest moment in our lifetimes. Joe is 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.160 sitting on the fence, wait and see. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:42.520 I'm excited. I'm sitting in the row waiting for the 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:43.279 show to start. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.320 Play down the fact that this is a jolly significant, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:48.680 very jubilee. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.919 Let's have a look at some of what Trump said 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.719 in his inauguration speech. Of course, Trump's presidency really is 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.800 a miracle. It's a miracle he was elected when you 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.240 consider where he was just two years ago. It's a 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.880 miracle he lived to be elected. When you consider a 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.960 bullet came within a millimeter of taking off his head. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.479 To point the Trump reference during his speech. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.800 Today, just a few months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:18.120 field and assassin's bullet ripped through my ear. But I 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.040 felt then, and believe even more so now, that my 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.440 life was saved for a reason. I was saved by 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.480 God to make America great again? 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.120 Okay? Is this? 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.080 And you were sneer when he said that, but I 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:35.280 know laughing it. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.600 Is, I promise you Trump is making a gag with No, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:40.200 he is not. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.280 Trump actually believes that God saved his life. And I 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.560 don't know anyone who could believe that the bullet came 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.680 within a millimeter of taking off his head and that 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.880 wasn't an act of divine protection. Anyone who's religious would 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.640 certainly believe that, which brings me to another thought. He 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.880 mentioned God a couple of times in his speech today. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.240 It's almost like God is back in fashion when you 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.840 consider the Democrats in their twenty twenty four policy platform 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.040 did not mention God at all. In twenty nineteen, the 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:11.360 Democrat National Committee said that their largest constituency is people 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.880 without any religious affiliation. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.640 And do you remember Joe Biden a couple. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.680 Of years ago, when he talked about how we're all 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:22.160 created equal by the thing, even for himself, the Supreme 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.520 Baard in the Declaration of Independence. But Trump references the 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.000 fact that not only does he believe he was saved 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.800 by God to do what he's called to do, which 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.320 means he is a man on a mission and not 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.800 mucking around. But later on in the speech, he also 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.160 talked about the fact that we will not forget we 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.880 are a nation under God. All of a sudden, the 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.480 God word is being used in popular culture all over again. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.680 Absolutely, I take Joe's point, which I think this is 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.559 your point, that obviously Trump knows his audience as every 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.520 politician does, and only the Good Lord himself knows how 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.679 sincere Trump's belief in him, Trump's faith in him between. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.600 Him and is God. All I know is Gosh. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.240 It galvanizes the face not included. I can't even vote 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.240 for the guy, so obviously I didn't, but that he 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:15.800 certainly carries it beautifully. And this is what the backbone 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.880 of America wants to hear. It's not just the Bible Belt, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:24.160 it's people who have been feel unheard, people who feel 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.560 like their country has been trashed over the last four years, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:33.280 and even those who aren't, you know, incredibly religious, are like, 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.440 you know, what, what harm is it gonna do if 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.520 we do chuck in a few prayers. And it was 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.840 just minutes after Trump said the oath that they had 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.480 these kids marching through the foyer singing glory, Glory, hallelu Yeah. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.199 His truth keeps marching. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:53.400 On like this whole I watched the whole ceremony. It 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.760 was extremely livening. If you are a person of faith, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.240 and I take your point, Joe, that was an accident. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:01.880 I get it. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:06.560 But when it comes to a politician faking as many 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.240 of our pollies do, faking a relationship with Christ, I 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.240 always just go, you know what, at the end of 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.960 the day, there is one righteous judge and you'll answer 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.320 to him. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.880 But it's not faking it. He's saying it's a piece 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.439 of performance. He knows he does. The pregium poison goes. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.520 I believe that God saved my life. And after that, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.079 you would normally, if you're real born again Christian, or 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.160 if you were someone who was really the Lord, you know, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.000 you would say, you know, to find peace, to find Jesus, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.800 to help my fellow man, and whatever it is, and 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.920 then instead he brings out his world famous, world worn 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.840 slogan to make America great again. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.360 It would be like Joe Biden. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.000 Saying, I don't think God wants to make like. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.320 Joe Biden saying, I believe that God saved me to 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.760 build back better. Okay, so he's saying it as a 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.719 piece of performance. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.240 If you want to. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.680 In that case, we would not. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.000 You can go to it. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:55.040 God doesn't want to. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.800 There's also a whole bunch of really interesting history between 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.320 Donald Trump and the evangelical lobby, and of course stay 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:00.960 very much. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.760 When he believes it's a great performance. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.600 At I just believe that it is just performance. This 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.360 is the only president who has also done in the famous. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.160 March for Life supporting. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.920 Life in America being anti abortion. I think I. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.240 Cannot How often does he go to church? 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.760 Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:26.719 going to a farm, ex. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.640 Cow we're going to. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.840 If that God had actually saved your life to implement 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.720 your policies, you'd probably rock up both Sundays. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.160 Well, you don't know that he doesn't, and maybe he 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.360 is chosen not to do as the Pharisees do, which 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.240 is what God didn't like very much. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.559 He's doing everything in the. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.400 Open, so people could be like, oh, he's so religious. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.720 He's so amazing. Maybe he goes to church in his 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:51.360 own It's. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.839 Great to watch. But again, I don't think coating this 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.840 in a messiatic. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:00.559 God. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:01.440 Let's keep going. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.480 I don't know if God or not, but he certainly 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.120 believes he was saved by God. I'll tell you the 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.680 other thing Trump believes in, and that is in cheap 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:09.760 and reliable energy. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:10.280 Have listened. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.520 The inflation crisis was caused by massive overspending and escalating 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.120 energy prices. And that is why today I will also 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:27.160 declare a national energy emergency. We will drill, baby, drill. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.040 Again. It's a punchline, classic punchline. You're going to get 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:44.840 the crowd. Faith. He's a good speech maker. Take the compliment. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.240 But it's not just a punchline. It's economic security, it's 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.360 national security. It's more than a punchline. It's a policy. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.120 In his pulses, Drill, Drill, baby, drill again. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.040 This is all you're talking about, the theater of his inauguration. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.439 This is the way he does and he does it 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.640 with these really punchy that he knows we'll get people 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.120 on their feet. He knows they'll get a laugh, and 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:05.520 again he. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.839 Says politicians were half as good. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:09.400 This is what he does. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.840 He sends out a really earnest thing, and it's what 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.199 every great performer or speechmaker or comedian does. You pretend, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.920 don't pretend, but you set the tone like you're really, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.160 really really serious about something, and then you've just speared 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:21.600 the balloon. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.000 Really big on slogans tonight for politicians. Can you talk 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.440 to Elban Easy about his what's his? 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.360 I've got your back? 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.120 The future made as either are good. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.640 He has got Peter Dunn's back in the latest pole, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.480 so hopefully he turns that around real. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.600 There's one other apart from his speech. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.000 We want to show you that I know Liz is 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.480 pretty excited about, and that relates to COVID vaccine mandates 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.520 and what happened with people who refuse them. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.760 This week, I will reinstate any service members who were 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.440 unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the COVID 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.839 vaccine mandate with full back pain. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.920 Liz, I know you'd be very happy, but oh justice. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.920 Justice has arrived for those military members. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.200 We know that this happened to thousands of them. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.080 And again this is something that every government, I think, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.880 needs to revisit with full back pay. As he said, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.720 then think of all our nurses. Think of the doctors 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.000 who were gagged by opera here in Australia, weren't allowed 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.200 to speak out, had to act against their consciences. Think 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.680 of all the state employed people in education, in the 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.760 police force who lost their jobs because they refused to 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.040 take a vaccine that was. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.120 Still in trial phases. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.400 All of them were still in trial phases and they 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.280 were unemployed. They were made to suffer for it financially. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.360 For me, being unvaccinated was one of the most, if 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.680 not the most expensive decision I've ever made in my 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:58.280 entire life. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.680 And I don't regret it one bit. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.720 But the fact that he has recognized this injustice and 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.960 he is going to see to it that they are 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:11.080 restored financially, Oh chef's kiss, This is beautiful. It needs 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.520 to become a trend. The government does not get to 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.920 mandate what you have to have injected into your body 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.440 in order to participate in society. I don't care if 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.840 we have any bowler outbreak taken from someone with a 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.080 master's degree in human rights. You do not this is 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.240 the one thing on earth you have complete control over. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.120 And that is why we recognize crimes like rape or 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.400 sexual assault, or assault of any kind as being unspeakably bad, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:43.200 because this is yours. The government will take your money, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.320 it will tax you on everything you ever managed to own, 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.880 you will read to do so throughout your entire life. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.560 But when it comes to your physical being, the answer 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:55.600 is no. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.240 All right. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.200 So while it was a day of glory for Donald Trump, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.840 it was another day of infamy for Joe Biden, who 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.640 right at the last moment, In fact, it was announced 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.600 as he and Jill were on their way to the 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:13.160 inauguration ceremony, issued preemptive pardons for Anthony Fauci and for 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.520 his entire family. And these preemptive pardons, some of them 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.080 go back for the last ten years now. Joe Biden 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.520 said in a statement, quote, I believe in the rule 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.040 of law, but these are exceptional circumstances. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.120 Sounds a little self serving. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.440 Donald Trump had this to say about Biden issuing these 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.600 preemptive pardons for his family. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:43.640 I was surprised that President Biden who would go and 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.560 pardon his whole family, because that makes him look very 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.600 guilty and I could have pardon my family. I could 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.120 have pardoned myself my family, and I said, if I 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.000 do that, it's going to make me look very guilty. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.080 Are they going to be sitting here? 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.520 Frankly, the weird thing about this, Joe, is you pardon 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.520 someone for a crime that had been connected tried. But 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.480 when you're pardoning people who've been accused of no crime, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.480 that's less a pardon than a shield, isn't it. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.800 Oh, this is this is minority report, this is pre crime, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.480 this is this is part of it. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.520 But it's kind of like the opposite. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.840 Instead of arresting someone for a crime that they haven't 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.080 yet committed, you're pardoning them from a crime they hadn't 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:18.640 yet committed. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.360 But again, I just love, Oh, they've committed the crime. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.439 I love the Donald's performance with this, which is that 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.919 I know because I think the pardon applies for anything 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.200 they may be charged with in the future. But but 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.920 the I love the fact that the Donald when he's 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.159 when he's saying this again, he doesn't do what the 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.399 left did when it was Donald Trump pardoning people and 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.440 them not liking saying. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.480 This is outrage. He's violated the. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.879 Sanctity of the office of the prevdor Trump talks instead 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.800 of all the hyper bowl the hyperboles. Sorry, how did 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:54.520 the Julia Gillard pronunciation? He he says, Oh, that looks 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.760 really dodgy, Like he speaks in a way that absolutely 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.760 everyone can understand, but also speaks in a way that 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.160 actually goes straight to harvest says, hang on a minute, 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.320 you know, like that sort of tough New York street 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:06.560 wise attitude to it. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:07.720 Say, hang on a minute. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.880 If he's gone around pardoning people, that means they must 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:15.000 have done something. So instead of all the historyonics around, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.399 you know, Joe Biden besmirching the great office of the 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.840 President of the United States, or dragging our country into you, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.520 or Joe Biden has actually Hitler, which is all the 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.239 things that the Democrats would have said if Trump did it. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.920 He just goes, well, obviously this guy looks guilty then, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.640 and he goes, I'm too smart to do that, because 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:33.879 I know I want to look guilty. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.080 Of course, the other. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.000 Part of this is that Joe Biden had said he 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.280 would not do this. Have listened to Democrat Senator Adam 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.639 Schiff who some time ago said no, no, this would never happen. Biden, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.080 I have talked, and there'll be no preemptive pardons issued. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:53.119 The precedent of giving blanket pardons preempted blanket pardons on 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.439 the way out of an administration. I think as a precedent, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:56.680 we don't want to set and. 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.200 You've communicated that to the president. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.000 President Baden communicated at publicly and privately to the misteration. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.680 Question I have, Liz, is do you think Trump will 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.800 go after people? And with a right to fear that 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.840 Trump was going to say, go after Fauci? Or do 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.040 you think Trump is going to fresh start. Let's not 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.959 abuse the rule of law. Let's just move forward and 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:18.800 not look back. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.400 It would not have been an abuse of the law 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:26.200 to go after Anthony Fauci. I'm like, Anthony Pauci's pardoned 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.879 with Satan unavailable, Seriously. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.800 Who else do you want to pardon? 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.639 He also pardons the general whose name was Mark Milly, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:41.119 who outright admitted that behind at the time Presidents Trump's back. 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:47.119 He told China, don't worry, we haven't got any incoming strikes. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.040 And if we did, I would give you guys a 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:49.520 heads up. 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:54.200 The biggest enemy of the United States of America here 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.600 was this general, Mark Millie saying, Hey, just so you know, we're. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.080 Mates China and so so. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.080 If anything's coming down the pipeline at my end, I 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.040 will let you know that guy's pardoned. This is the 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.680