WEBVTT - #229 Elvis Smylie: Australia’s Next Golf Superstar on Winning Big & Thinking Bigger 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.360 Elvis mate, welcome to straight Talk. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:03.760 Thanks for having me Mark. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.840 Yeah, you're only twenty three, is all right? Twenty four 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:08.240 this year. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:09.120 Twenty six, twenty four. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.480 Yeah, April, Wow, that's mad. Do you ever think you'd 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.000 be sort of sitting in the same seat that Greg 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:15.200 Norman sat in three weeks ago? 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.599 Definitely not. No, Greg's Gregg's an idol of mine. So 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.960 that's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I still remember growing up 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.360 and watching him play and achieve all the amazing things 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:25.640 he did. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.200 I'm sort of sitting here like I'm seeing there's a 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.480 twenty three year old sitting across from me and just 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.920 wont a big event and we'll talk about that in 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.159 a second, but a big, big, big, big take on 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.479 amount of money too for a young fella. And Cameron 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.599 was sitting in that seat maybe one year ago. You're 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.199 on his team Live Golf and he's aside. But what 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.200 he guys caught again? 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:50.600 Riper? 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.680 Ripper Ducy, that's right, Ripper. I love the name. Oh 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.880 my god, heck, can I forget it's so busy You're 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.600 you're in that side, which is the captain? This is 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:00.680 here like coach too. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.440 Yeah, I mean he's the captain and then he also 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.399 has involvement in like ownership of the team as well 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.120 of some sorts. But yeah, Cam and I have a 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.520 great relationship. I've known Cam now for a few years. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.800 I was a scholarship recipient of his back in two 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:16.200 thousand and. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.360 Nice trade you ruin the chmistry. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.640 Yeah, I got to go and spend a week with 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.240 him and Jacksonville, where he lives. And yeah, We've kept 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.200 in touch from time to time over the past few years. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.160 And now I'm part of the team, and yeah, we're 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:28.679 doing well. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.840 Do you pinch yourself sometimes? Do you think you know 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.480 the shoes that you're stepping into in the path you're 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.400 walking down? Might I add the chair you are now 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.920 sitting in been followed by your following two of the greats. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.039 Yeah, definitely. I definitely don't take that lightly. I'm very 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.000 grateful and appreciate for the position I'm in, and it's 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.760 taken a lot of people to help you guide me 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.240 to be able to be in this position and to 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.960 continue continue achieving what I want to achieve. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:00.440 Your parents both professional sports people in tennis. Your mum 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.120 probably more well known to me, at least Liz Smiley 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.560 or I remember her for many years ago. But what 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.240 is it with you guys? Like, you know, you're at 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.080 the age of fifteen, you were doing playing two or 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.320 three is something ridiculous. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:14.680 Yeah, it was a little bit better than that. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.120 But well, yeah, okay with here. You so like what 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.840 I'm saying is like, if you ever thought about that 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.799 sort of natural talent you have and I even worked 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.320 hard to get to You've got to talk about that, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:23.799 But you ever thought about that gift? 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.119 Yeah? I think it's obviously like that hand eye coordination 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.720 is one thing, but also, you know, just a little 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.320 bit about me growing up, I obviously did play quite 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.840 a bit of tennis as well. With you know, the 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.359 background that I've had. My mum and dad were a 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.959 huge support in me being able to choose my own 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.600 path and my own journey, and they were fully supportive 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.120 of that. And the one thing I love about golf 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.040 that was the independent side of things. You know, what 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.120 you put into it, you get out of it, and 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.880 being able to, you know, not rely on others to 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.120 go and go and work hard and go do your 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.840 own thing. I feel like you're on your own time 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.280 and that's something that I've I've really loved. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.080 Yeah, does that pre pressure on you because it's just 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.440 like you can't really rely on anybody else. I mean, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.040 you're the one with the stick in your hand. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.359 And I think I like the ownership. I think of 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.919 having that responsibility of not relying on others, even though 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.880 I have my own team. I've got a coach, I've 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.440 got a physio, I've got an sec coach. Like, I've 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.720 got so many great people around me, but they ultimately 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.480 just try and keep me in between the lanes, you know, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.640 lanees just if you think of. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.880 It, just and they're pre posed to because once you're 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.760 out on the course something, you can talk to people, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.760 but still you're the one who's going to swing the club. Yeah, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:34.920 and they can't do it for you. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:35.440 Yeah. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:35.760 Yeah. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.520 I think that's where also the caddy is so important. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.360 My caddy, Brad Beacher, is someone that he's had a 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.400 lot of great success over his career. He's had, you know, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.160 twenty twenty five years of cutting. One of the girls 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.880 that he used to caddy fall was Inmby Park who 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.160 was well number one for multiple years. She's a seven 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.560 time major champion. So just having that experience and the 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.880 relationship that we have is great and Brad since I 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.440 was eleven twelve years old. We both a member at 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.320 Southporl Golf Club on the Gold Coast, and he plays 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.000 multiple roles on the golf course, not just a caddy, 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:15.120 but you know, also tap into that psychologists piece as well. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.240 I'm actually quite fascinated about the caddy piece. I do 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:18.880 want to park that for a second and come back 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.040 and talk about that if you don't mind, But it 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.480 might just sort of go back. You know. My imagination 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.920 is that you're a little kid. You know, you see 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.440 all those videos of Tiger Wood with his dad when 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.400 he's like two, hitting a golf ball and stuff like that. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.000 I'm imagining your mum and dad throwing a ball at 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.200 you with the tennis rakers, putting a golf ball on 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.320 the ground to getting near to hit it, probably throwing 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.320 a footy at you. Well, what was it like as 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.640 a young kid growing up? Am I right? Is that 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:47.760 this sort of scenario? 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.120 Certainly? Yeah. So I lived on a golf resort on 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.320 the Gold Coast called the Glades, and every day before 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.360 school my dad got me into it. I was four 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.040 years old and I'd go to the range every day 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.760 before school. You know, I probably practiced for about two 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.960 and a half three hours. I probably practiced from like 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.080 five o'clock to eight o'clock, went to school at eight thirty, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.559 did the whole school day, and then I came back 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.760 and then I'd be on the chipping green and putting green. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.279 I'd have a little flashlight on the green until pitch black. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.039 So that was my That was my daily routine for 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:19.840 multiple years. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.160 Well is it because and is that because some if 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.200 you get back when you're a little kid, Let's say 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.760 you're five or six or seven, right, whatever the age was, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.279 do you remember were you obsessed with the with being 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.120 really good at it? We're all just so much fun. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.080 Can you remember the feeling? 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.000 Yeah, it was definitely a bit of both. It was 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.760 more of the enjoyment factor. I didn't necessarily worry about 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.440 trying to get like too good too early, because as 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.000 a little kid, you just want to enjoy it. You 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.200 want to try and see how far you can hit it. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:53.919 And you know, I I still remember like making my 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.000 first par and like just little special moments like that. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.520 As the years have gone on, I broke I broke 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.560 par at the age of twelve. Wow, And then I 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.760 was off scratch at thirteen, handicap at thirteen. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.159 That's so not fair. It's just not fair. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.520 So it's cool because and my parents were there with me, 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.440 e recept of the way, like we have achieved so 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:16.880 many great milestones along the way. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.840 Yeah, it's funny. When I had Ricky pointing here a 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.840 little while ago, not that long ago, actually a month 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.880 or so ago, when the cricket was on, he was 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.719 telling me that a good batsman, not necessarily a bowler, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:31.200 but a good batsman actually tend to have physiological advantages 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.480 of other people, and particularly in relation to where their 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.480 eyes are set on the head. And Hear then went 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.000 on to say that those studies have said that that 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.719 goes for all ball sports where you have to actually 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.520 zoom in on the ball sure before you strike it, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.320 which is obviously with a cricket it doesn't a golfer 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.080 and probably a tennis played too. To some extent, have 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.520 you ever have you gone into that scientific side of 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.440 it or you just say no, that's my ability. I'm 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.200 just going to practice, practice, practice and get better and 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.680 better better. Have you actually gone in sort of scratch 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.120 below the surface and try to work out scientifically? Yeah? 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:08.760 What is it about me? And how can I get 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.640 better based on what I've already got as a talent. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.440 Yeah, well, first of all, that's quite fascinating. It's something 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.480 that I haven't had the opportunity to dive into too much, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.640 but it's something that i'd definitely be worth well. I mean, ultimately, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.040 it's one percent stuff, isn't it. And ultimately, as a 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.360 professional athlete, you're trying to search for that stuff. So 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:31.080 as a particular individual, I like to think of myself as, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.640 you know, someone who is gifted naturally, but you know 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.040 I've worked hard over a period of time, because you 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.800 know that saying when you know hard. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.520 Work always beats time, you know it? Yeah, exactly how 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.640 many guys that I know skill? You probably do to 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.040 like the great student of great footballers, regular players for example, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.960 but they didn't put the effort in and they didn't 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.520 get to where they should have been. But there's other 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.119 guys who weren't as good. Yeah, and the end playing 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.080 first grader and played for Coincidental, played for Australia. Yeah, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.760 we see that stuff all the time. Unrewarded talents almost 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:03.240 a problem. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.800 Yeah, And ultimately I think it's about trying to add 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.840 as many tools to your toolbox as you can, because 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.000 when you're out on the golf course for four and 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.040 a half five hours, you're not necessarily going to have 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.520 everything go your way. So it's important to rely on 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.000 particular things to recall on so if you do get 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.680 faced with moments of adversity, you can be like, oh, yeah, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.000 I remember doing that at that time. And I have 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.640 a journal as well that I write in most days, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:31.720 and I kind of flick back through certain dates, through 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.679 particular moments of my career, and that almost just gives 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.360 me a bit of a like a refreshing attitude on 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.880 you know, I might pick up something that I wrote 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.040 down three years ago and that still has the same 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.240 benefit to this current time in relevance. Yeah, in relevance. Yeah, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:49.760 And I think that's incredibly important. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:57.160 It's just like I play golf, and maybe my style 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.040 of thinking, my brain, mind's or whatever, it doesn't really 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.520 suit it that well. Because if I've had a bad 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.000 morning and I've got to play in the afternoon, I 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.560 play bad. And there must be I presume there's some 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.719 sort of process that you use to maybe control your 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.960 heartbeat or get everything out of your brain and just 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.800 think about this is what I'm doing today, and it's 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.319 probably slightly easy because that's all you do. I mean 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.240 not when I say all we do that equally could 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.320 be a problem because it puts pressure on you as well. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.480 But like, how does someone like you when let's say 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.880 you hit a shot, you end up in the rough, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.040 or you're in the sand or not where you want 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.240 it to be, and or you're behind and you're fighting 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.520 to get ahead or catch up. What do you do 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.960 to slow your heart rate down and to get yourself 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.000 in that relaxed mode. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.800 Yeah, I think the first things first is all about 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.560 trying to bring your attention back to being in the 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.880 present moment. And I have little tools that help with 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.480 that that I've worked with my psychologist Michael Lloyd with 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.359 And you know, some of those tools are I'd sometimes 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.079 like touch the tips of my finger to feel the 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.120 sensation of that, and that will almost help me feel present. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.880 And then I would also tell me myself. I feel 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:11.640 like self talks quite important, and that's just reiterating like 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.120 what's important to me, like doing what matters, making sure 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.280 you're going through your routine, you know, when things that 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.800 are less an ideal, just remind yourself that it's okay, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.240 and just keep putting your best foot forward. And then 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:25.880 sometimes when I have a sip of water, I'd feel 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.160 the sensation of it going down my throat. So there's 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.880 little things where I would shift my attention and my 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.960 focus to something else rather than just the result and 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.440 the outcome. And that also just helps me become level 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.120 and you know, cool, come and compose and just keep 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.719 going about my business as well as I can. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.240 Are you naturally a calm person or i'd like to 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.240 think so? You think, well, when you say that's the 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.880 interesting response, you'd like to think so in other words, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.960 that generally someone says that to me, that generally means 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.600 that they're someone who knows the downside of not being 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.320 that person, and therefore is always building strategies to manage 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.440 themselves into being that person in the time. That accounts. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.120 Yeah, I think the important thing as well is if 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.720 I was looking at myself from the audience, how would 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.120 I want to look from the outside? What body language 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.320 would I want to show? You know, something that I 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.280 speak about with my psych is what kind of teammate 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:20.800 I want to be, What kind of person I want 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.320 to be, what kind of brother I want to be 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.520 son like, what does that look like? And I give 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:30.240 myself little little cues and little ideas on what that 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.160 will look like. And I just try and carry those 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.400 moving forward and try and represent myself in the best 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.079 possible way. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.160 So for a twenty three year old to be I mean, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.120 obviously you're at the highest level inters of your profession, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.040 but as a twenty three year old, just generally as 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.959 a twenty three year old to be saying things about 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.800 make sure I stay in the present. And then for example, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.920 the example you just gave me about I might have 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.360 a sip of water when you're out in the course, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.480 you're in competition perhaps, but you can feel the water 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:00.880 going to your throat. That's very meditative. That is the 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.240 essence of feeling in the present. So for example, in 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.240 the morning, a lot of people that get the coffee 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.400 their throw it down and they say, go, I've got 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.240 to have a coffee. It's a function instead of smelling it, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.480 feeling it, tasting it, smelling it, and that is the 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.800 being in the present. That's the meditative part that's really important. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:23.280 It does slow your heart rate down and it's all 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.120 about because like I continue now, if I was playing 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.520 at your level or like twenty levels below even my 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.560 sympathetic drive, you know that part of my body where 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.840 I'm pumping quarters all out and adrenalinees going and like that, 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.840 which is why i'd you know, stuff up every shot 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.680 and somehow I would have to tap into my parasitic 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.080 parasmitic drive in the vegas system. And I do have 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.679 techniques for business around that, Like I speak a lot 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.400 of public events. Sometimes i can be in front of 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.400 a thousand people and I've had to work out ways 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.640 to do it because I'm really curious about the science 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.320 and how your psychologists work with you, and do they 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.640 explain these sort of things to you, Because like golf 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:11.080 is such a valuable profession, there's so much money involved. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.080 You nearly have to get into that top not just 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.240 as a talent and as an outcome, but that top 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:22.160 one percent in terms of how you think about everything, everything, everything, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.559 not just going to go and hit a few balls today, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.200 Like from the moment you start prepping for the event, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:35.160 to the event and probably surely thereafter the event. What 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.160 does your team consist of? You got a psychologist, what 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.360 do you have as scientists? 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.840 Yeah, so a few years ago I put a particular 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.040 individual in place to help me with. You know, at 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.120 the time, he was thinking of it as running my 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.560 own CEO of like you're being the CEO of your 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.559 own company. And at the time I was naive and 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.240 I didn't really know what to think of it. And 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.319 as did you do it or someone I told you? You know, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.560 someone else told me to do it. And at the 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.000 time I was quite naive. I'm like, I'm just I'm 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.800 just playing golf, I'm just traveling the world, I'm doing 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.600 all this stuff. I need to worry about that. But 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:09.200 as time's gone on, like the importance and the significance 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.720 of making sure you're communicating with the good people that 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.920 you have around you is one of the most important 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.640 things to be able to have success in anything. Right, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.080 So you organize, you know, your organized team calls you, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.600 You've got people that you're employing, You've got you know, 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.560 travel accommodation to organize you tax stuff. Like I was 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.360 nineteen at the time when that particular person came in, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.280 or twenty, and it's just amazing to see how much 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.560 I've involved with the help of that particular person, and 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.640 moving forward, I can just use so many of those 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:47.200 tools that I've learned from him. Is it a golf person, Yeah, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.360 it's a golf coach. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.600 Yeah, and he's a coach or a coach, golf business coach. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.400 He's a golf coach golf coaches as well. And yeah, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.520 without that, I wouldn't have the setup that I currently do. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.200 So in other words, they leave you to be the 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.680 talent correct and to do that and to create the outcomes. Yeah, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.120 but they're guiding you and managing you all through the process. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.520 Yeah. I think the good thing is he'll never tell 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.280 me what to do or what to think, but he'll 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.120 always just give me different avenues on what to think 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.080 about and then it's ultimately up to me to make 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.240 that decision. And that's with the great people that have 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.880 around me, is that they're not yes people Like I'm 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.360 not employing them to tell me what I want to hear. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.120 I'm telling them I'm employing them to tell me what 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.520 I need to hear and what I think is going 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.240 to help me get the best out of myself and 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.960 for me to be able to achieve what I want 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:37.400 to achieve. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.120 There's a big difference, which is you're displaying right at 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.640 the moment. There's a big difference between being a great 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.280 golfer or being in the business of being a great golfer. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.760 You're in the business of being a great golfer as 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.480 well as being a great golfer. You know, there's a 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.600 huge difference. There's a bit like someone telling me. It 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.240 could be out the coffee shop out the front there, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.160 saying that I'm a fantastic barrista, therefore I can run 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.520 a coffee shop. Now, you might be able to make coffee, 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.800 but that doesn't mean you know how to run a 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.120 business of making coffee. There's a big difference. Would you 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.680 consider yourself and at what point you would you have 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.600 considered yourself to be in the business of golf, professional golf, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:14.880 in the business. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.840 Of probably only within the last year and a half, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:18.920 i'd say. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.200 And what was the moment where you thought, hang on, Elvis, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:23.440 get serious, dude. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.840 Yeah, I mean, I know, there's more to it than 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.080 just traveling to you know, one particular place, teeing it 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.200 up and hitting it and then trying to do as well 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.400 as you can and then leaving to go to the 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.080 next place. There's more to it. There's more to there's 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.360 more to see, you know, behind the scenes that the 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.480 public just don't see. And that's something that at some 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.000 point I would like to be able to showcase that 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.640 through the conversation that we're having. Is there's more to it. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.080 There's more stress, there's more you have to manage your 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.240 time exceptionally well, and I believe I'm doing a really 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:54.920 good job at that. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.560 So you chose to go to live yeah, or well 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.480 maybe you could explained the process tod they offer you 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.159 to come, would you choose you? Excuse me? Can I 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.600 take me? Or here's a leg being a school and 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.320 you want to be in the team, or or is 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.720 it they reach out to you? How does that work? 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.800 Yeah? So the process started. It was this time a 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.119 year ago when I went down to the event at 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.639 Adelaide and I met with the CEO, Scott O'Neill, and 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.919 the general manager, Nick Adams, and the performance manager at 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.120 the time he still is a performance manager and really 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.760 good friend of mine in Tony Meyer. So Tony he 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.880 worked in Golf Australia for multiple years and he kind 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.560 of oversees like all the golf stuff, so making sure 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.159 that all of you know, me, cam Leish and Herbie 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.320 all get what we need. And as time has gone 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.639 on I so flash backing a little bit. Sorry. I 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.960 won the Australian PGA Championship in November twenty twenty four 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.639 and that got me a two year exemption on the 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.800 DP World Tour. So I played the whole year on 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.960 the DP World Tour last year in twenty twenty five, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.120 and then I achieved some really good things. I finished, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.800 you know, second in the French Open, and I ended 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.119 up finishing twenty first on the Race of the Bystandings, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.080 which is the money list, which is you know, all 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.840 the tournaments added up at the end of the year. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.920 And it was about October last year where Cam and 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:21.640 Tony approached me and they said, look, we're really interested 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.479 in having you. I've obviously got that personal relationship with 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.840 Cam and I admire what he's done and that was 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:33.000 definitely a big driving factor for me joining live. There 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.240 was a pros and cons list that I made throughout. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.640 This roadown yeah with help or just yeah with help. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.320 I was advised to do that because when you have 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.240 something written in front of you, it's a lot easier 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.800