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Speaker 1: Elvis mate, welcome to straight Talk.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me Mark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're only twenty three, is all right? Twenty four

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six, twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, April, Wow, that's mad. Do you ever think you'd

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Speaker 1: be sort of sitting in the same seat that Greg

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Speaker 1: Norman sat in three weeks ago?

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Speaker 2: Definitely not. No, Greg's Gregg's an idol of mine. So

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Speaker 2: that's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I still remember growing up

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Speaker 2: and watching him play and achieve all the amazing things

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Speaker 2: he did.

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of sitting here like I'm seeing there's a

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old sitting across from me and just

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Speaker 1: wont a big event and we'll talk about that in

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Speaker 1: a second, but a big, big, big, big take on

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Speaker 1: amount of money too for a young fella. And Cameron

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Speaker 1: was sitting in that seat maybe one year ago. You're

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Speaker 1: on his team Live Golf and he's aside. But what

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Speaker 1: he guys caught again?

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Speaker 2: Riper?

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Speaker 1: Ripper Ducy, that's right, Ripper. I love the name. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, heck, can I forget it's so busy You're

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Speaker 1: you're in that side, which is the captain? This is

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Speaker 1: here like coach too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's the captain and then he also

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Speaker 2: has involvement in like ownership of the team as well

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Speaker 2: of some sorts. But yeah, Cam and I have a

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Speaker 2: great relationship. I've known Cam now for a few years.

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Speaker 2: I was a scholarship recipient of his back in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Nice trade you ruin the chmistry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to go and spend a week with

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Speaker 2: him and Jacksonville, where he lives. And yeah, We've kept

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Speaker 2: in touch from time to time over the past few years.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm part of the team, and yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: doing well.

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Speaker 1: Do you pinch yourself sometimes? Do you think you know

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Speaker 1: the shoes that you're stepping into in the path you're

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Speaker 1: walking down? Might I add the chair you are now

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Speaker 1: sitting in been followed by your following two of the greats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I definitely don't take that lightly. I'm very

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Speaker 2: grateful and appreciate for the position I'm in, and it's

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Speaker 2: taken a lot of people to help you guide me

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Speaker 2: to be able to be in this position and to

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Speaker 2: continue continue achieving what I want to achieve.

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Speaker 1: Your parents both professional sports people in tennis. Your mum

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Speaker 1: probably more well known to me, at least Liz Smiley

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Speaker 1: or I remember her for many years ago. But what

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Speaker 1: is it with you guys? Like, you know, you're at

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Speaker 1: the age of fifteen, you were doing playing two or

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Speaker 1: three is something ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little bit better than that.

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Speaker 1: But well, yeah, okay with here. You so like what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, if you ever thought about that

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Speaker 1: sort of natural talent you have and I even worked

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Speaker 1: hard to get to You've got to talk about that,

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Speaker 1: But you ever thought about that gift?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's obviously like that hand eye coordination

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Speaker 2: is one thing, but also, you know, just a little

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Speaker 2: bit about me growing up, I obviously did play quite

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Speaker 2: a bit of tennis as well. With you know, the

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Speaker 2: background that I've had. My mum and dad were a

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Speaker 2: huge support in me being able to choose my own

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Speaker 2: path and my own journey, and they were fully supportive

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Speaker 2: of that. And the one thing I love about golf

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Speaker 2: that was the independent side of things. You know, what

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Speaker 2: you put into it, you get out of it, and

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Speaker 2: being able to, you know, not rely on others to

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Speaker 2: go and go and work hard and go do your

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Speaker 2: own thing. I feel like you're on your own time

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Speaker 2: and that's something that I've I've really loved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does that pre pressure on you because it's just

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Speaker 1: like you can't really rely on anybody else. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're the one with the stick in your hand.

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Speaker 2: And I think I like the ownership. I think of

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Speaker 2: having that responsibility of not relying on others, even though

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Speaker 2: I have my own team. I've got a coach, I've

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Speaker 2: got so many great people around me, but they ultimately

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Speaker 2: just try and keep me in between the lanes, you know,

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Speaker 1: It, just and they're pre posed to because once you're

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Speaker 1: but still you're the one who's going to swing the club. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's where also the caddy is so important.

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Speaker 2: My caddy, Brad Beacher, is someone that he's had a

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Speaker 2: lot of great success over his career. He's had, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five years of cutting. One of the girls

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Speaker 2: that he used to caddy fall was Inmby Park who

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Speaker 2: was well number one for multiple years. She's a seven

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Speaker 2: time major champion. So just having that experience and the

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Speaker 2: relationship that we have is great and Brad since I

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Speaker 2: was eleven twelve years old. We both a member at

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Speaker 2: Southporl Golf Club on the Gold Coast, and he plays

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Speaker 2: multiple roles on the golf course, not just a caddy,

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Speaker 2: but you know, also tap into that psychologists piece as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually quite fascinated about the caddy piece. I do

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Speaker 1: want to park that for a second and come back

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Speaker 1: and talk about that if you don't mind, But it

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Speaker 1: might just sort of go back. You know. My imagination

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Speaker 1: is that you're a little kid. You know, you see

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Speaker 1: all those videos of Tiger Wood with his dad when

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Speaker 1: he's like two, hitting a golf ball and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm imagining your mum and dad throwing a ball at

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Speaker 1: you with the tennis rakers, putting a golf ball on

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Speaker 1: the ground to getting near to hit it, probably throwing

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Speaker 1: a footy at you. Well, what was it like as

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Speaker 2: Certainly? Yeah. So I lived on a golf resort on

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Speaker 2: the Gold Coast called the Glades, and every day before

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Speaker 2: school my dad got me into it. I was four

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Speaker 2: years old and I'd go to the range every day

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Speaker 2: before school. You know, I probably practiced for about two

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Speaker 2: and a half three hours. I probably practiced from like

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Speaker 2: five o'clock to eight o'clock, went to school at eight thirty,

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Speaker 2: and then I'd be on the chipping green and putting green.

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Speaker 2: I'd have a little flashlight on the green until pitch black.

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Speaker 2: So that was my That was my daily routine for

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Speaker 1: Well is it because and is that because some if

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Speaker 1: you get back when you're a little kid, Let's say

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Speaker 1: do you remember were you obsessed with the with being

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Speaker 1: really good at it? We're all just so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a bit of both. It was

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Speaker 2: more of the enjoyment factor. I didn't necessarily worry about

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Speaker 2: want to try and see how far you can hit it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I I still remember like making my

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Speaker 2: As the years have gone on, I broke I broke

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Speaker 2: par at the age of twelve. Wow, And then I

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Speaker 2: was off scratch at thirteen, handicap at thirteen.

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Speaker 1: That's so not fair. It's just not fair.

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Speaker 2: So it's cool because and my parents were there with me,

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Speaker 2: e recept of the way, like we have achieved so

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Speaker 2: many great milestones along the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. When I had Ricky pointing here a

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Speaker 1: on to say that those studies have said that that

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Speaker 1: which is obviously with a cricket it doesn't a golfer

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Speaker 1: and probably a tennis played too. To some extent, have

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Speaker 1: you ever have you gone into that scientific side of

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Speaker 1: better better. Have you actually gone in sort of scratch

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Speaker 1: What is it about me? And how can I get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, that's quite fascinating. It's something

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Speaker 2: but it's something that i'd definitely be worth well. I mean, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: as a particular individual, I like to think of myself as,

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Speaker 2: I've worked hard over a period of time, because you

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Speaker 1: Work always beats time, you know it? Yeah, exactly how

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Speaker 1: many guys that I know skill? You probably do to

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Speaker 1: like the great student of great footballers, regular players for example,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And ultimately I think it's about trying to add

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Speaker 2: I remember doing that at that time. And I have

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Speaker 2: and I kind of flick back through certain dates, through

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Speaker 2: you know, I might pick up something that I wrote

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Speaker 2: And I think that's incredibly important.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I play golf, and maybe my style

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Speaker 1: probably slightly easy because that's all you do. I mean

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Speaker 1: But like, how does someone like you when let's say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first things first is all about

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Speaker 2: to witness. Yeah, without a doubt, So tell me, tell me,

439
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: tell me what is it? There was over one hundred

440
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: thousand people there. The twelfth hole, which is known as

441
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: the watering hole, that is full of thousands and thousands

442
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: of people. You get, you get given it, not given,

443
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 2: but you get to choose a walkout song and my

444
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: walkout song? Serious, yeah you can probably can you guess

445
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: in a way with my with my name.

446
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 1: Anyway? So which one which one of his songs?

447
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 2: It was a little less conversation by Elvis Presley.

448
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and blues rays shoes or something.

449
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I was actually wearing a pair of blue was

450
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Speaker 2: on the Sunday in read. Yeah.

451
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,719
Speaker 1: El Was Presley is one of my all time favorite singers.

452
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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to be able to say that, you

453
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: thought it. And by the way, his name was Aaron, Yes,

454
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: and I named my firstborn son his middle name is

455
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Aaron after Elvis Presley.

456
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: Wow, my dad will be watching this. I'll love you.

457
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: It's going yeah, yeah, yeah.

458
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: So the vibe, yeah, the vibe was insane. As soon

459
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 2: as I've walked out, I had a little less conversation

460
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: going by Elvis Presley. I was pumping everyone up. Everyone

461
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: was on their feet going nuts. Your heartbeat was racing.

462
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: That's where I recall on, you know, drinking the water

463
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: and making sure I'm present and stuff like that, because

464
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: you don't get to practice that at all. You don't

465
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: get to practice that feeling when you're away from the

466
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Speaker 2: lights and cameras. So the best thing that you can

467
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Speaker 2: possibly do is embrace it in the present time. And

468
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: that's exactly what I did.

469
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Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. What an opportunity was. Were your parents there?

470
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Speaker 1: Do they for the music?

471
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Speaker 2: That was their first live event they got to experience

472
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: and we won, which was Yeah, it was a dream.

473
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Speaker 1: They must have walt tears to your mum's eyes.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so? When do yeah on one of

475
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: the holes it was the fourteenth hole, so the Ripper

476
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: Golf Club they had a Ripper house, so it was

477
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: like a massive merchant or not merchandise, but it was

478
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: just a massive setup with really good infrastructure and my mum.

479
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: There was an announcer calling my name onto the fourteenth

480
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: to part three and he's like, oh, Liz, talk us

481
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Speaker 2: through hot you're feeling right now? Like do you get

482
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Speaker 2: nervous whilst watching Elvis play? And it actually kind of

483
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: brought like a few tears to my eyes as I

484
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: was walking up the steps from the thirteenth green to

485
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Speaker 2: down to the fourteenth tee and I heard her voice

486
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is such a cool, cool experience

487
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: for my mum to be able to see me in

488
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Speaker 2: my element and for her to be able to witness this,

489
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: because you know, she was a professional athlete and highly

490
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: skilled in an own right, but for her son to

491
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Speaker 2: be able to see that, I think I'd hope to

492
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Speaker 2: think that she's pretty proud.

493
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Speaker 1: That's like, I can't imagine what it'd be like as

494
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Speaker 1: a parent to me. That'd be amazing. But as a

495
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: player going from the thirtieth to fortieth, how do you

496
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: manage that emotion? I mean, like, does it inspire you

497
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: to do that I'm going to do this for money

498
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: without doubt, or does it go oh my god.

499
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Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing because I feel like I've been given

500
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Speaker 2: a platform to be able to showcase my skill but

501
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: also show the type of person that I am on

502
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: a global scale, global stage. And doing that in front

503
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: of thousands and thousands of people and showing them that

504
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: I want to interact with like little kids are giving

505
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: them a high five and signing things and putting a

506
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Speaker 2: smile on their face. It genuinely makes me so happy

507
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: and so you know, giddy inside. And then you know,

508
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: adding the financial side of things, I want to give

509
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: back in meaningful ways, and that's something that really inspires

510
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: me and motivates me to be able to, you know,

511
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: start a charity or a fundraiser of some sorts and

512
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: being able to you know, step into cam shoes the

513
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: way he's you know, been doing his scholarship. To be

514
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: able to do that in my own right one day.

515
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: And to actually influence undercent things good outcomes. Unfortunately can't

516
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: rely on Unfortunately, can't rely on good politicians that these days.

517
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: Not that I wanted to get political, but individuals have

518
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: far more impact. I think on those sorts of environments

519
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: and our political leaders and got well done. If I

520
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: could just you know, everyone's sitting there, oh wow, you

521
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: know it's great, and you know you've done the great

522
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: achievements and you did fantastic in Adelaide, et cetera. But

523
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: most people don't understand the hard work it takes to

524
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: get There's one thing to be naturally gifted as a

525
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: sports person or an athlete, which you were both, but

526
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: to be at the elite level, there's a lot of effort, training, commitment.

527
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: Can you give me a sense of you said what

528
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: you were doing you a little kid, but like once

529
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Speaker 1: you decided to start to play, at what point did

530
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: you play professional?

531
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Speaker 2: I turned pro in twenty twenty one, so I was

532
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: eighteen eighteen.

533
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Speaker 1: So at what point did you sort of say this

534
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Speaker 1: is what I'm going to do for my life stuff, school,

535
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: university of whatever the case might be, I'm going to

536
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: be a golfer. And what was what did you have

537
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: to undertake to do that? Like, what does it look

538
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: like in the day of it's called it training or

539
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: prep for a professional golfer.

540
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to the personal stuff a bit that I'll

541
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Speaker 2: be happy sharing. I went to school from prep to

542
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: year eight. So I went to All Saints Anglican School

543
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: on the Gold Coast, and I went from prep to

544
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: year eight. And I never really enjoyed school that much.

545
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: I always felt like I struggled to fit in a bit.

546
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: I was always a little bit more mature than the

547
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: kids that were around me at the time, and the

548
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: fact that I had such a huge passion for golf

549
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: and wanting to play at a professional level, I felt

550
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: like I could never really get along with anyone in

551
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: that regard because that's all I loved when I was

552
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: that age and wanting to share that passion and hobby

553
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: with others. But you know, I remember talking to mom

554
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: and Dad and I got home from school was absolutely

555
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: balling my eyes out one day, saying like this is

556
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: this is not fun, Like I'm not enjoying this. It

557
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: was a really tough decision to make, but I ended

558
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: up doing online schooling for the remainder of my schooling.

559
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Like high school.

560
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I had I had teachers online, so my

561
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: parents weren't my teachers, but I had. I did it

562
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: through a school called Australian Christian College, which is based

563
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 2: up in Brisbane. So you can either do an on

564
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: campus version or an off campus version. So I did

565
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: the off campus. I got all the work sent to me.

566
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: I had the exact same teachers that all the other

567
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: students had, but I would create my own hours. So

568
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Speaker 2: I'd probably do about four to four and a half

569
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: hours a day of school in the morning, and I

570
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: would do it, you know, straight, so I wouldn't have

571
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Speaker 2: a break, and then I'd go to the golf course

572
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. And the thing was,

573
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen fifteen, being able to create that

574
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: structure at such a young age was really difficult to

575
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Speaker 2: get right because you know, with school, you've got the

576
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: eight thirty to three o'clock set regimented time. But when

577
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: you go straight into online schooling in distance education, you

578
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: have to create that yourself. And that helped me. You know,

579
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: at the time I was mature, but that almost just

580
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: took another step, you know above, and I felt like

581
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: that tough period that I went through there, even though

582
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: my golf was a huge benefit of that. The social

583
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: side did go down because I wasn't hanging around with

584
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: anyone my age, and that was tough because as I

585
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: look back, I think that, you know, the golf definitely

586
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: served its part, which was the priority at the time,

587
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: but the social stuff was was really hard, and I.

588
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Think you missed out or something. Apart from drinking getting

589
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: drunk at fifteen or.

590
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: That that was an interesting I think it was more

591
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: the friendships, I think, But you know, i'd like to

592
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: think and I do think, and I do believe that

593
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: now I've got really good relationships with really good people.

594
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: And some people are you know, closer to my age,

595
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: but a lot of people are a lot older than me,

596
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: and that's fine.

597
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter, no, as long as it's not

598
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: when of a certain age. It's not about age commonality.

599
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: It's interest commonality. And you've got the same interest. We've

600
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: got a team. And by the way, like my grandfather's

601
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: ways say, like Mike, don't worry about having too many friends.

602
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: You can count as you get older, you know that

603
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: you're going to count on one hand those people who

604
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: are close to you and then be your family. It's

605
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: just someone will be like family. On there could be

606
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: a family member. But five is enough that in itself

607
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: is a lot to manage. Definitely, and like it's very

608
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: interesting and I appreciate you sharing that with us the

609
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: audience as well. You know, like the sort of it

610
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: sounds a bit sort of average to say sacrifices, but

611
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: to some extent, these things are sacrifices.

612
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: I was proud to sacrifice.

613
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, therefore it's not a sacrifice. No, it's just

614
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: a concession. Yeah, yeah, it's a concession you're making for yourself.

615
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: No one else is losing out on. It's just you.

616
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: And what we tend to do is we tend to

617
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Speaker 1: watch you. Obviously have done. You've gone back and made

618
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: up for it in other ways. Do you think that

619
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: decision had a major impact on your let's call it

620
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: your polishing up of your talent?

621
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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, I think it's helped shape me into

622
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: the person I am today. I was. It was an

623
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: extremely tough decision because making a decision like that at

624
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: fourteen years old, where you choose being a professional athlete

625
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: over education. I mean, some people may think otherwise, but

626
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: at the time, I was proud to make that decision,

627
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: and I don't look back and I'm pretty happy with it.

628
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't think be too many Australians athletes who have

629
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: done extraordinarily well have done that. I mean, I can

630
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: think of people like Ian Thorpe probably is one of

631
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: those people where you would have gone to Ennswiss or

632
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: one of those places when he was fifteen or fourteen

633
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: fifteen in order to become I want to become a limpin.

634
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I want to be the greatest swimmer of all time.

635
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: There wouldn't be too many and you have to have

636
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: a high level of maturity to make that call. In

637
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: the day of a of a golfer, what do you train?

638
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: What's training the way together? The gym, you get a run, yeah,

639
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: what do you do?

640
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it probably consists of total about five six

641
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: hours a day. Yeah, so that's not always just at

642
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: the course. I love to go to the gym. I

643
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: have my strength and conditioning coach, Luke Macki. We both

644
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: live close to each other on the Gold Coast, so

645
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: I catch up with him whenever he's home and we

646
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: we have a lot of fun together. He does all

647
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: my programs and you know, it's not just the gym

648
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 2: stuff that's the fitness side of things, but I love

649
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: to go to pilates. So there's a there's a studio

650
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: back on the Gold Coast called Sweat Society that I

651
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: like to go to, and you know that's like an

652
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: avenue as well to meet new people.

653
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Just gave you a rap sweats. It'll be packed tomorrow.

654
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: But it is a part of a plant. Does someone

655
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Speaker 1: work that plan? If we say you're a strength and

656
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: conditioning person to hear he or say he is it?

657
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

658
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke says, okay, mate e was We're going to

659
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: do polarates through for abs normal strength, other other areas

660
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: or strength. I mean, is that something that a golfer

661
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: should do because I can't imagine you need to go

662
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: and start to bulk up. Yeah, that's not going to

663
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: work out very.

664
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Well, No, I think yeah. I think the great thing

665
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: with pilarates it targets a little muscles and I really

666
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: enjoy that. So the gym side serves its purpose with

667
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: its you know, the squats and the lateral movements and

668
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: the rotational movements and all that, but then the polates

669
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: is very much more like core engaged and shoulder activation stuff,

670
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: and that's important.

671
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Do you need to run, do you need to have

672
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: a run.

673
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look at me, I'm tall and slender. I

674
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: can't lose weight.

675
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Y Arabic fitness and heartline stuff is not something you

676
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: need to do much.

677
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Of, not necessarily. I mean maybe if I speak to

678
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: some people around me, if they think it's a good idea,

679
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: at some point that I might explore that avenue. But

680
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: for the time being, I'll stick to the gym and.

681
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Practice what you like. You say tomorrow to now putting tomorrow.

682
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I remember two courses on the Gold Coast,

683
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: Southport and Saintry Cove, and they're both great. I'd probably

684
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: spend yeah, four hours on the golf side of things.

685
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: I love to go and play holes. So there's a

686
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: difference between you know, going out too the putting green

687
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: and doing all your drill work and then chipping green

688
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: doing your drills, and then going to the range and

689
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: just hitting balls. But going out the course is where

690
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: I have the most fun. Because what I'd do is

691
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: I'd go out and play with the half set of clubs.

692
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: So you genuinely have fourteen clubs in the bag, but

693
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: what I'd do is I'd probably have about six or

694
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: seven clubs. So on odd days of the week, so

695
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'd probably play with you know,

696
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: like five iron, seven nine, nine nine, some sort of

697
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: wedge and then a driver. And the idea of that

698
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: is to be able to mix it up and not

699
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: always just have have the perfect club or have the

700
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: perfect shape or the perfect flight. Like the idea is

701
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: to try and challenge yourself so when you do get

702
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: put in tournament situations, you're like, oh, I remember practicing that,

703
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: I remember hitting that kind of shot, and that's something

704
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: I love and that's something I've done ever since I

705
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: was little. Because that's really that's helped the longevity of

706
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: my career because golf can be quite monotonous because it's

707
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: a stationary sport, like you're looking down and you're just

708
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: seeing one thing and you've got all the time in

709
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: the world, and it kills me. Yeah, I think, you know,

710
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: time can can be a and like not that great

711
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: for you. So that's that's why I like to do

712
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: the seven seven club challenge.

713
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Could you could you explain to us all? So I

714
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: do want to talk about the caddy stuff, because the

715
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: caddy is more than just caddy shack walking around with

716
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: the bag of his shoulder or a cart. So explain

717
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: in your case, at least the role of your caddy. Hey,

718
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: you choose your caddy and what are the important things

719
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: that caddy does. You mentioned psychology, especially during the game

720
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: and or probably before you start as well. Could you

721
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: just give us a bit of a flavor of that.

722
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as I was mentioning before, Brad Beach and

723
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: my caddy, we've been working together since December twenty twenty four.

724
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: So you know, as you know, you've got a golf

725
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: range finder like you where you look through the lens

726
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: and U zap it and tells you how far it is.

727
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: But when you're playing professionally, you actually you can't always

728
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: have the access to the range finders. So what you

729
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: do is you get given a yardage book that has

730
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: all the numbers and it's got a photo of the

731
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: hole that's ahead with all these measurements that are in

732
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: the book that also replicate the measurements that are written

733
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: like on sprinkler heads or that are written on like

734
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: little red dots in the fairways, and you have to

735
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: step it out from that particular point to get the yardage.

736
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a time process that you

737
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: have to go through, and that's something that Beach and

738
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: I go through in order to get the number. But

739
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: then you also have to look at the wind. You

740
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: have to look at the coldness of the air, like

741
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: the if you're playing early in the morning, the air

742
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: is quite heavy, so the ball's not going to go

743
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: as far. There's more moisture. Yeah, So, and then sometimes

744
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: you're playing at altitude, so the ball goes further than normal.

745
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: So that's where you have to take that into account

746
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: a bit more. So, There's so many different aspects that

747
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: Brad and I both go through. I mean, Brad's are professional,

748
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: so I actually rely on him in particular areas to

749
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: do things a little bit quicker than I do, just

750
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: to help with the time efficiency of things.

751
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Is that like? But is it like more a check

752
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: off you sort of say, well, yeah, and what do

753
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: you think? Or is it he's to say, listen, this

754
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: is what we're going to do, because.

755
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: No, he won't. He'll always he'll always hear me out

756
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: before we make the final decision. He'll never tell me

757
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: like what to do. And that's something that I respect

758
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: so much of Beach is that he'll always give me

759
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: the like I'm the one hitting the shot. I'm the

760
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: one that knows what I want to do here, and

761
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: then he's he's the guy that's just going to help

762
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: signify what the right decision is and what the right

763
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: shape is, what the right flight is.

764
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: So what could we just look at the element? So

765
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: you just mentioned a couple then, so because most people

766
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: just pick up the club and hit the blow. Yeah,

767
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: but you're you're thinking about geometry, like the geometry of

768
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: the course and the geometry of what you're going to

769
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: you're going to hit the ball in terms of height, weather,

770
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: your conditions.

771
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: Different grass types.

772
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: Well, so just go if you might just give me

773
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: a little little just a little example of some of

774
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: the detail.

775
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

776
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: So let's say we're playing somewhere with its early morning

777
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: and it's humid weather yeap, and you know you're a

778
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: one hundred out from the from the green.

779
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So if we have one hundred meters to

780
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: the hole and it's early in the morning, maybe the

781
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: ball's not traveling as far. You know that instinctively, it's

782
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: probably playing you know, a few meters more. So, let's

783
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: say it's playing one hundred and five hundred and six meters,

784
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: So there's there's clubs in my bag where I know

785
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: the stockyardage for each club, so i'd hit my you know,

786
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: fifty six degree wedge. I'd know that if I hit

787
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: one hundred percent swing here, it's going to go one

788
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: hundred and six meters, So that's going to allow for

789
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: that heavy air. So then i'd say to Brad, well,

790
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: Brad will say to me rather, he'd be like, mate,

791
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: this is feeling like one hundred and six meters shot.

792
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: So then I would instinctively just say, okay, I know

793
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: that my fifty six goes one hundred and five hundred

794
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: and six, so this should be perfect. And then also

795
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: you have to to think about like if the ball

796
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: is going to spin or not on the green. So

797
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: that's where the preparation is so important. On the Monday, Tuesday,

798
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: Wednesday before the tournament starts on a walking around, yeah, correct,

799
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: So you you have those three days to be able

800
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: to come up with a bit of a game plan

801
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: for the week. So by the time we get on

802
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: Thursday and have a shot like that where we have

803
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: one hundred meters to the hole and we know how

804
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: the ball is going to react already before even hitting

805
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: the shot. That's that's important to take into a to

806
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: take into a.

807
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Factor, and then once it hits the green, Yeah, you

808
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: sort of know what to expect. Yeah, because you've done

809
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: you've done your walk around. You know what to expect

810
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: in relationship, which way it may roll.

811
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, based on like which flight, which way it's

812
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: coming into the green. And then also the the interaction,

813
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: like the way you strike it. You know, like if

814
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: you've hit a good shot based off like that sensation

815
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: that feels straight away.

816
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: With the noise. I mean, that's any thing like that's satdy.

817
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Time I enjoy golf is when I get that when

818
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: you hit it that sweet spots therapeutic. It's not that often,

819
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: but it's still in mathematical, Yeah, I'd like to you

820
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: just say you have a good example. You said, as

821
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: a hundred one hundred met of shot, but because the weather,

822
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: you're allow for another six, so you need to pick

823
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: a club that's going to get you one hundred and

824
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: six meters. Blah blah blah. That's just like quite mathematical.

825
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot more in the school of life

826
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: then I perhaps learned at the actual school. Let's say

827
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: that I feel like you, like in school, you don't

828
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: actually learn that much, like about the finance side of

829
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: things as well, like the tax and all that. And

830
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: that's something that I've really stepped into this last year

831
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: and a half, and that's something that I'm really looking

832
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: forward to learning more about because it's it's going to

833
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: help you become more of a complete person, if that

834
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: makes sense.

835
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: It's a bit in the business being a professional golfer. Yeah,

836
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it's all.

837
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm learning so much WEM.

838
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Greg Norman was a great example. I mean Greg has

839
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: his detractors, but at the end of the day, the

840
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: guy has lived a long career, way past your golfing days,

841
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: making money out of golf, and you know, like he's

842
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I find him quite amazing. He's seventy, he's the same

843
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: age as me. He's a little bit older, he's seventy

844
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: seventy something. But I finally quite amazing how he's reinventing

845
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: himself into golf, into the golf world. And that's because

846
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: he understands the business of golf, like sponsors countries who

847
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: need golf club golf courses in order to build golf tourism,

848
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: like in Vietnam where he's working on at the momy top.

849
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: So do you look I mean given to your you know,

850
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: at the age of fourteen, you decided to leave school

851
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: and go do it from home and become a professional golfer.

852
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Just in an other word, you're looking way ahead. Do

853
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: you look way ahead beyond your golfing years now?

854
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I definitely want to step in a new

855
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: type of professional environment after I retire from the game

856
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: of golf, and I have, like I was mentioning, the

857
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: fortunate people I do have around me. You know, Todd

858
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Woodbridge is a really close friend of mine. And as

859
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: soon as Todd, you know, stepped out of the tennis

860
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: playing side of things, he's moved into the media side

861
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: of things, and he's made a huge success for himself

862
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: and he's he's he's been able to engage in a

863
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: different type of audience than just the tennis audience, which

864
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: I think is great, and people are learning more about

865
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Todd Woodbridge the media person rather than just Todd Woodbridge

866
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: the tennis doubles player, yeah, or the doubles player. So

867
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: I think that's something that you know, motivates me, is

868
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: to be able to step into I'm not saying that

869
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: media might be as strong force had.

870
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just an example.

871
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: It's just an example. So I think whenever that time comes,

872
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: i'd definitely be interested in doing something like that.

873
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: And you and I are talking earlier before the show,

874
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: and you know Greg has been great at designing courses, sure,

875
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: and he's made a small fortune out of it. There's

876
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: all so many avenues that are on tapped us a

877
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: bit like because you know how often we hear about it.

878
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: You mean you're a Bronco supporter, you're about rugby league players.

879
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: They at the top of the tree, and they don't

880
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: actually prepare for something for the day they retire, which

881
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: they retire pretty young and and or either retire just

882
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: by virtual of age or injured one of the two

883
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: and most of them, for some of them, really anything

884
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: they do is either coaching or commentary. But that's getting

885
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: pretty crowded at the moment. In your sport, you have

886
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: a much longer life potentially subject to injury, et cetera,

887
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: but a much longer life and sick. But you've got

888
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: to be successful. You're only as good as your last

889
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: in your game, You're only as good as your last win.

890
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: It keeps me working hard and staying accountable.

891
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: But but but you do. You have a responsibility to

892
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: yourself to build something for the future. It's not just

893
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: that accumulates some money, buy some assays you know, and

894
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: some render whatever it is you know, play that game,

895
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: but also you know where can Elvis Smiley end up

896
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: when he's forty.

897
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to look back in my

898
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: life and I want to feel like I challenged myself

899
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: as much as I possis we can, and I want

900
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: to step into uncomfortable environments and situations and try and

901
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: get better, because I think comfort is a it can

902
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: be a dangerous place, it can serve its purpose. But

903
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: ultimately I'm trying to I'm trying to add as many

904
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: tools as i can to my toolbox. Like I've mentioned,

905
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: I love using that analogy because it just shows what

906
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: a worldly person I can become, and I'm excited for

907
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: that opportunity.

908
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: That's interesting coming from a kid who's sort of growing

909
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: up in Queensland. I want to be a worldly person,

910
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: but you are in a worldly game. It's a for me.

911
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: It's funny you should say that that point about challenging yourself,

912
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: testing yourself and building as many tools for you in

913
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: your toolbox in golf, but also they will also be

914
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: very good for you in future life. But what's really important,

915
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: and it's coming out of all the studies scientific studies

916
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: these days, even when it comes to how we age.

917
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Once upon time, we thought when you turn sixty five,

918
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: you should retire and relax and have a game of

919
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: golf or sit in the lounge room and not have

920
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: to be able to work in the morning. But actually

921
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: what's coming out now is that we should actually be

922
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: challenging ourselves. We should be pushing ourselves as sixty five,

923
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: more so than when we even when we're younger, because

924
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: if you start to don't challenge yourself, everything sort of

925
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: slows down and feels comfortable. And Australia has been that country,

926
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, where we're very lucky. Everything's sort of pretty goody.

927
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, we save up, we get our super and

928
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: we retire blah blah blah blah. But it's interesting a

929
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: young person at twenty three is thinking that way in

930
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: relation to a lot of people saying the guy's gone

931
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: enough money, why doesnt ity retire? It's interesting to say

932
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: that you're looking at it that way because for me,

933
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: listening to what you're saying, It's about actually extending your life,

934
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: either as a golf or just as a person by

935
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: challenging yourself all the time until the day, maybe at

936
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: the day you die, which is another thing that Greg

937
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: Norman does. Greg is all he's challenging himself, even of

938
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: this age. He's not retiring, no interest what not retiring.

939
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got enough money to retire, but that'd

940
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: probably send him nuts. Do you think about those things?

941
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: And do you have a person who's your like a model?

942
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Is it your mum or dad or is it Great Norman?

943
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: Who do you think about that? Is it a proxy

944
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: for you?

945
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: The best version of myself? That's what I'd like to

946
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: think of it. As I had role models growing up.

947
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 2: Greg was one of them, Adam Scott, Cameron Smith. That's

948
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: just obviously just in the professional sports profession. But yeah,

949
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: ultimately the best version of myself. You know, I remember

950
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: watching Matthew McConaughey win a Golden Globe and the winning speech.

951
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: You know, who do who do I look to? Who

952
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: do I look up to? And what do I look

953
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: forward to? And those are the three coolest things ever?

954
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: That's good?

955
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know who does he look forward to

956
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: I think is like the future self trying to become

957
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: the best person he can be that who does he

958
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: look up to? Who he's got a really strong faith

959
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: with the man upstairs? And so do I. And that's

960
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: something I'm proud of speaking about.

961
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: And then that's good. You're proud to say that I am.

962
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, what's twenty six? Hopefully twenty twenty six? Well,

963
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're at the beginning of DIB. What do

964
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: you I hope, what's one big goal for this year?

965
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: You've got me? I don't know. I want to I'm

966
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: in two majors this year. Oh wow, I want to

967
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: do something very special in both of those. I will

968
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: say that.

969
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to be watching that. And I want

970
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: to say to you, Elvis, like, just from my point

971
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: of view, and I guess anyone who's listening, congratulations for

972
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: sort of getting it together at such a young age.

973
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, apart from your wonderful talent and you know

974
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: what your recently won and all that sort of stuff.

975
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, apart from all that, just congratulations for getting

976
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: it deather at such a young age and very impressive.

977
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Well done. May thank you you war