1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: This is an unbelievable I don't even want to call 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: it a sport. I'm going to call it a barbaric 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: action because you would have seen it on social media. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: It is everywhere and fits you and I have spoken 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: about this. It's called run it Run. 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: It straight, and the idea is the participants they're sort 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of twenty meters apart. 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: One has a footy under the arm. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: A lot of these guys are big Islander guys, and 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: they run directly straight at each other. They run as 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: fast as they can twenty minutes out and the amount 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: of head clashes concussions, people being knocked out is really 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: jarring to watch. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: At the start. 16 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: When I saw this on social media, I thought this 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: is maybe something that people were doing, like after footy training, 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: just as a ah. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: It's uffronting to watch. 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: It is confronting because concussion in professional sports is such 21 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: a huge debate now at the moment, and we're seeing 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: some of these guys, you know, rugby league players later 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: in life having brain problems wi the thing deteriorating very 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: very quickly. So I don't know how they get away 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: with me. 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: Why don't they have helmets on to start with, Like, 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: if you're going to do it, I mean a doctor 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: has come out and spoken about the dangers obviously to 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: the body, but the brain. 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a tough brain. 31 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 2: You can have a tough exterior and muscles and bulk, 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: but you can't have a tough brain. 33 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: That's the problem here. Someone died, Yes, an eighteen year. 34 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Old boy has died after taking a place or taking 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: part in run It Straight. So there's a group out 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: at Melbourne doing it, but obviously it's adam nz. I 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: don't know if anyone's doing it here in Sydney thirteen, 38 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: twenty four ten. 39 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: If you know anything about run it. 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: I mean see this is I writ an article once 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: years ago and it explains a lot about young men. 42 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: Did you know that the brain and the ability to 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: make rational good decisions doesn't kind of properly kicking in 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 4: the male brain in the male body until late twenty year. 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Like twenty six onwardsn't it. 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not even yeah yeah yeah, So that 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 4: part of the brain just isn't there. So these guys 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: may not even be going. I am putting my life 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: on the line here it might not even occur to 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: them because they're not that they haven't developed that yet. 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: The decision is extraordinarily dangeus. 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: You when you when you play professional sport, you will 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: do anything in your power to get back out in 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: the field and you it does not like, I mean, 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: there's no there's a level of bravado, bravado that you 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: have that you like, yeah, yeah, we're totally fine, literally, 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, there's so if you interviewed a 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: lot of ex footballers and asked them, what have you 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: put your body through that pain again, I dare say 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: a majority of them would say no. 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: So that's the maturity that's missing when they step out 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: as young men weighing one hundred and thirty kilos running 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: as fast as they can into one hundred and thirty 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: kilos running the other way. Jesus and doctors come out 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: and they said, are you surprised by this? He speaks 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: on behalf of headsafe, and he said, this activity is 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: designed to create brain injury. He said, I'm not surprised though, 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: in the same way people thought two thousand years ago 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: that going down to the coliseum on a Saturday afternoon 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: to watch some Christians being fed to the lions. 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Sounded like a good day out. 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: I think people are now just coming back to the 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: basics of having two beasts running at each other to 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: see what the result is. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Oh, UFC's the same. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people will say, well, UFC has become 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: such a huge sport, now. 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: One of them. 79 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: It's the fastest growing sport in the world. 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: But you would say that there is a different level 81 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: of skill athleticism. 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: You still rocking the brain, mate, Oh yessolutely call it 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: boxing whatever it might be. You're right, it's a hot 84 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: topic when you're talking about brain injury in sport and 85 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: the AFAIR in particular. I mean they've cleaned it up 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: in terms of head knocks and time on the bench required, 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: and how to protect the players on the field even 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: though it's going. 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: To the ball. 90 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: They've had to these legal issues with it. 91 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: So that's a big one. 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: But get straight, the NFL is the other big one. 93 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: The grid iron over there as well. There's there's there's 94 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: a lot of lawsuits that are happening at the moment 95 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: with ex players who've just were damaged permanently now from 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: playing the game. 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: And they also think with the NFL that it's even 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: more dangerous when they do have helmets on because they 99 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: feel like they're completely bulletproof. 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's not just either. 101 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: It's I mean, Tom celebrated sixteen years over yesterday and 102 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: you just what you've done to your brain in that 103 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: sixteen years. 104 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Tom and God absolute brain rot for me, and it. 105 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: Is as a as a mother. I'm just glad that 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: my who sons are both running in the same direction 107 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: when I say dinner's ready, yes, otherwise there is going 108 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: to be a problems. 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: We're going to do a run on air next. 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: We're looking for someone that weighs one hundred and thirty 111 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: kilos to have a crack and Tom Ivy you'll see resulting. 112 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: My fingers crossed fits. 113 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: In Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: great shows like this. 115 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Download the Nova player, Fire, the app Store, or Google 116 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: playing the Nova Player