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Speaker 1: It's in with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is the show on Netflix that everyone's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Actually just on Netflix as well. Michael Jordan's series starts

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Speaker 2: today the Last Dance, and I think this will be

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Speaker 2: the only documentary that will knock off Tiger King because

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Speaker 2: it's been so popular. The man that took over Joe Exotics,

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Speaker 2: Tiger Park, Jeff Flow, He's on the line now, live

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Speaker 2: from Las Vegas. Jeff, thanks for joining us, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Hi Jeff, thanks for finding the time. Matte. You must

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Speaker 3: be blown away by the interest in this documentary series,

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Speaker 3: Tiger King.

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Speaker 4: It's been pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: And Jeff, when the documentary was shot, was it explained

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Speaker 3: to you how it would be produced? I mean, are

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Speaker 3: you surprised by what you're learning through the series yourself?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know not really. We lived this every day

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Speaker 4: of our life, so we knew if exactly what was

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Speaker 4: going on, but the producers kind of misled everyone on

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Speaker 4: what the show would ultimately be. And I think it's

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Speaker 4: me because it evolved as they first started it as

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Speaker 4: a documentary about Carol Baskin, and I think once I

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Speaker 4: once I leaked to the producers that that Joe was

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Speaker 4: about to be indicted, it kind of changed their perspective

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Speaker 4: one time, and then when Joe was convicted, it kind

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Speaker 4: of flipped it again. That's probably the reason that they

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Speaker 4: kind of misled everyone, because they just wanted to share.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Jeff, it's safe to say that by the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, you come across as as probably

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Speaker 1: the main bad guy. By the time you got to

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Speaker 1: the end of it, did you sit there and go,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the world's about to hate me here

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Speaker 1: or that that was a pretty faircinmation of what Jeff

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Speaker 1: Low is all about.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I don't care what anyone thinks

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Speaker 4: of me, because I know the truth. I know that

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Speaker 4: Lauren and I left the twelve thousand square foot four

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Speaker 4: million dollar house in Colorado and we came to live

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Speaker 4: in a thousand square foot cabin in Oklahoma so we

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Speaker 4: could take care of the animals that were being abused

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Speaker 4: by Joe exotics. So you know, people can hate us.

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Speaker 4: Haters make you famous, And it's not the first time

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Speaker 4: I've been. I've worked with celebrities all my life, so

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Speaker 4: I've seen how ignorant people can be to the truth,

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Speaker 4: and they want they want to kick a hero, and

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Speaker 4: they want to have a villain. And and if me

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Speaker 4: coming here and spending a fortune to save this part

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Speaker 4: and to take it over from a from a lunatic

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Speaker 4: like Joe Exotic makes me a bad guy, then I'm

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Speaker 4: a bad guy.

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Speaker 5: The other day, off the back of the series, they

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Speaker 5: had a reunion episode, but there was a story out

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Speaker 5: of that that Joe Exotic was freezing tiger cubs to

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Speaker 5: then sell to taxi domis do you know anything about

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Speaker 5: all these sort of stories that are coming out, like

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Speaker 5: is that one true?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely true? Laura and I were invited to his house

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Speaker 4: one time for dinner and I can't remember why. We

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Speaker 4: went to the freezer for ice, and I pulled the

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Speaker 4: freezer drawer open and there are probably five or six

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Speaker 4: dead baby tigers in there. How long are dead alligators

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Speaker 4: to build bad alligators? And he would he would sell

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Speaker 4: them to Texadary people, which is illegal. I mean, dead

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Speaker 4: tigers is no better to sail and no more lea

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Speaker 4: the sell than a live tiger.

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Speaker 2: But he would.

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Speaker 4: He just didn't care.

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Speaker 2: Joe.

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Speaker 4: Joe thought that none of the animal laws pertain to him,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he just he did what he pleased.

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Speaker 3: There is so much detail on Carol Baskin the number

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Speaker 3: one question that obviously floats around, and you would have

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Speaker 3: been asked a hundred times do you think she killed

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Speaker 3: her husband.

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Speaker 4: I absolutely believe she killed her husband. I think he

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Speaker 4: was going to divorce her, and I think she was

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Speaker 4: going to divorce and leave a high and dry She

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Speaker 4: couldn't let that happen, because you know, she was She

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Speaker 4: was a prostitute who met Don on one of the

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Speaker 4: tedious streets in Tampa that she's four years she was

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Speaker 4: a prostitute. Joe had her diary where she describes having

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Speaker 4: to lower herself to prostitution to pay the bills. John

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Speaker 4: cheated on his wife with her, and and you know,

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Speaker 4: once they hooked up, she was all of a sudden

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Speaker 4: a rich woman, and Don was about to take that

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Speaker 4: away from her.

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Speaker 3: So what happened to the money?

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Speaker 4: I think, you know what, we're not positive if I

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Speaker 4: knew that, what has he got? My guy says that

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Speaker 4: she had some help, one of her employees help. They're

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Speaker 4: killing and I think they probably disposed of the body

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Speaker 4: as the TV shows do the meat grinder. It's been

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Speaker 4: reported and the authorities are looking into the story that

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Speaker 4: she filed a police report back about two weeks after

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Speaker 4: Don died, claiming that her meat grinders were stolen out

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Speaker 4: of her commentary. And so there's a lot more that

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Speaker 4: they didn't get into. And I think it's because they

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Speaker 4: couldn't prove it. Netflix didn't.

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Speaker 6: Why is ever running the Big Cat world just such

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Speaker 6: quirky characters? I mean, Doc Antele has his sort of

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Speaker 6: his harem of wives, and Joe had a couple of husbands,

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Speaker 6: and you take tigers into casinos for good? Why are

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Speaker 6: you also left it interesting?

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Speaker 4: Well? You know what, if we weren't interesting, you guys

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be talking to me right now.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, Jeff as well, I mean a

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Speaker 2: lot of this is another really important question as well.

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Speaker 2: But I know with the reunion Inshall and that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are really worried about the hot nanny

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Speaker 2: that you and your wife Lauren hired for the kids.

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Speaker 2: How is she going? The hot nanny? Is she okay?

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Speaker 4: She's just is she?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 6: Is she?

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Speaker 3: What does she wear?

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Speaker 2: What's her name?

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Speaker 4: She's actually in a pair of booty shirts.

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Speaker 2: Another thing for you, Jeff, is she is she keen

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Speaker 2: to get out of the nanny industry or is she

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Speaker 2: thinking about doing something else?

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Speaker 4: Or well, you know what, we've had several nannies and

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Speaker 4: all smoking hot and what we know? We were in

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas and that's the game. Man, go ahead, you

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Speaker 4: guys can hate it this way. We hate me. It's

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Speaker 4: not because of because I got hot nanny.

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Speaker 1: Jeff do want this? There's so many reports, so they're

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Speaker 1: going to make this into a movie, et cetera. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to play Joe, who's going to play Carol? Who's

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Speaker 1: playing Jeff Low?

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Speaker 4: Well, we there was it was almost like a Las

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Speaker 4: Veiggas oddsheet that came out today that someone has from

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Speaker 4: from one of the news stations forwarded us, and I

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Speaker 4: think it was Matt Damon was a four hundred to

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Speaker 4: one favorite to play me. And I don't see that

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Speaker 4: particularly Matt.

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Speaker 1: Damon's John Malkovich. John Malkovich had an air.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Nicholas Cagege.

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Speaker 2: What about Well?

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Speaker 4: Rob Loow is actually related to me, and he just

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Speaker 4: owned our family when he got famous, and now all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden he's jumped back into He claims he's

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Speaker 4: going to make a player came back to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So cousin her, cousin Jeffery, how does he fit in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: He designed the family and now obviously with the successive

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Speaker 2: Tiger King, he wants to get back into it.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, Right, I've done. You want to show up at

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Speaker 4: the next family reunion?

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Speaker 2: He's done the enroll? Well, Jeff, Jeff, it's fascinating. It

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Speaker 2: is fascinating viewing Tiger King. It's available to stream on

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Speaker 2: Netflix if you want to go check it out. Well,

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Speaker 2: you appreciate your time, Jeff, thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's in with Nova