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Speaker 1: The big footy issues from every angle, dissected by a

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Speaker 1: team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever

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Speaker 1: to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's always a Tuesday, Always a Tuesday. Although on this

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Speaker 2: specific Tuesday, Simon Goodwin probably wasn't the first coach we

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Speaker 2: thought would part ways with their club, and yet Melbourne,

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Speaker 2: two days after an eighty three point win over the

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Speaker 2: West Coast Eagles, have opted to sack their drought breaking

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Speaker 2: premiership coach. Will analyze the remarkable roller coaster Goodwin tenure

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Speaker 2: that featured the ultimate high and a lot of lows.

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Speaker 2: It's a special edition of the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben

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Speaker 2: Waterworth with you, as is the Man back from Balley Slam,

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Speaker 2: Mark Pagy, Max Lord and Hello Max.

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Speaker 3: Yes, bike bike Saja.

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Speaker 2: That's goodbye, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: That's how are you?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 3: And it's like your friend where you can say like savah, savah.

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Speaker 3: You didn't just say it back. From what I remember

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Speaker 3: from my Grade five Indonesia was very little.

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Speaker 2: Nice to have you back after a couple of weeks overseas.

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Speaker 2: Also joining us is the Man who must say off

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Speaker 2: the record, got a little bit of wind about the

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Speaker 2: Simon Goodwin situation a few weeks ago. Didn't quite run

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Speaker 2: with it, but I will say Will Faulkner, you were

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Speaker 2: flagging this in the office a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Ben afternoons everyone all morning. If you're listening,

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Speaker 4: then yes, it's one of those things, right. I just

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Speaker 4: last Wednesday. I flicked off something to you just want

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Speaker 4: to keep tabs on. Yeah, you never like to see

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Speaker 4: a coach sacked. But I think there was a little

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Speaker 4: bit of win behind this. I think, probably more than

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Speaker 4: what has been given credit for in the public right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's been some reports around like, look, Melbourne

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Speaker 3: being broken by two reporters within the space of I

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Speaker 2: Because it sounds like them players. Yeah, the players were

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Speaker 2: told on Tuesday morning. Simon Goowyn himself was told personally

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Speaker 2: get on the phone to Simon Goodwin and drive over there.

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Speaker 2: I already reckon he would have mentioned that five or

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Speaker 2: And he said during the press conference on Tuesday that

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Speaker 4: I think ever since the board meeting, ironically the day

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Speaker 4: Melbourne about schedule board schedule board meeting. Yeah, it wasn't impromptu. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think, as you said, a lot of big decisions

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Speaker 4: his playing list has really changed. There's been a big

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Speaker 2: So last week twice Max So I think it was

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Speaker 3: I don't think this was about Simon Goodwin, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: But it's more about the fact that this could have

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Speaker 3: And then they've got the board making the decisions, led

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Speaker 3: it's not even his fault that they have He's not

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Speaker 2: There's a great piece by Courtney wolsh Our, senior reporter

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Speaker 2: for Fox Sports dot Com Today you and encourage you

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Speaker 2: to give it a check out, mainly because of how

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Speaker 2: he is so beautifully detailed the roller coaster since the

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Speaker 2: But the roller coaster since then leaves a really vexing

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Speaker 2: question around did Simon Goodwin get the most out of

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Speaker 2: what was on offer? For so many times in this

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Speaker 2: podcast we've talked about Camra Mooney saying this is a

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Speaker 2: like even on the eve of the Flag Defense, Melbourne's

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Speaker 2: board considered sacking Goodwin a year earlier due to bullying,

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Speaker 4: I think, to answer your question, and I think I

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Speaker 4: telling us to Goodwin's legacy for that four year roller

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Speaker 4: And I think I think they think they're a legitimate

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Speaker 3: They're not a terrible option to take over because I've

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Speaker 2: Think they've started to do in recent weeks.

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Speaker 3: They have Patraka going out of it quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: I've done really well.

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Speaker 3: So it makes a lot of sense that they want

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I think that speaks is to yeah, they'll

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know what's with dead list right now,

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Speaker 4: and whether or not Goodwin was right to have these

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Speaker 3: It's it's so hard to win flags that it's going

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Speaker 3: to be really harsh for anyone to say, oh, they

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Speaker 3: should have won more, Like they were talented enough to

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking particularly of the Collingwood qualifying finals.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was an expected score game.

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Speaker 3: They absolutely should have won that game and then lost

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Speaker 3: Yes, so like they clearly had those chances, But you

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Speaker 3: also forget how good Stimer Goodman was at turning an

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Speaker 3: offensive juggernaut into a defensive juggernaut. In twenty eighteen, that

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Speaker 3: They get all the way to a pre They were

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Speaker 2: Shorter please and els defensively the right courts to get

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Speaker 3: Be a Fagan style selection. It would be rather than

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Speaker 2: So you know, sorry, well, you don't think they will

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Speaker 4: This will sound obvious, I think to people, but I

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're looking to this senior assistant coach

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Speaker 3: that's what you would do.

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Speaker 3: A career assistant. You would go and get an established coach.

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Speaker 4: complete sense, I think also, I mean by process of elimination.

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Speaker 4: If you're looking at it on face value, Adam doesn't

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Speaker 4: I think is very much enjoying his time here at Foxville,

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Speaker 4: So by process of elimination, even just there, of those

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Speaker 2: Before all that you met brought up Carlton just beforehand.

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Speaker 2: So how much does this accelerate their decision on Michael Voss,

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Speaker 2: Melbourne won't be rushing their decision. They're not getting a

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Speaker 2: I think the expectation is that Graham Rice, who has

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Speaker 3: So traditional Carlton would be moving in the next week

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Speaker 3: Graham Right factor means that they will not do that

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Speaker 3: ran at Collingwood was getting Craig McCray. Yes, right, So

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Speaker 3: that was getting a career assistant who did not have

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Speaker 3: maybe that's contributed to certain things over the last eighteen

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Speaker 3: the world to me that grand Right will take his

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Speaker 3: really think that they can persuade Longmaie and he's going

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Speaker 2: That's a very big deep dive into the d's a

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Speaker 2: D's Deep Dive, which and full coverage of course on

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Speaker 2: Foxfooty dot com dot Au. Simon Goodwin had committed to

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Speaker 2: AFL three sixty on Wednesday night. Well, I really hope

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Speaker 2: that does come to fruition that to Garrion and Jerry

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Speaker 3: Does he show up in the club polo?

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Speaker 2: I would heavily doubt it, I have. I'm trying. I

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to I couldn't remember who it was either.

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Speaker 3: It came out on that Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really. It came out early on that Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Coached coach the game. I think the win. I think

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Speaker 2: three quarter time address, as you do to a great mate,

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Speaker 2: that's right, and got removed the next day and then

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Speaker 2: rocked up to a FO three sixty in the club Polo.

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Speaker 2: That is about as loyal as it gets.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for this and now on the Fox

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Speaker 1: Footy Podcast, another strong edition of Australia's Favorite segment, Fair

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Speaker 1: or Fast.

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Speaker 2: Max, who's been filing the run home while in Balley.

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Speaker 4: Has been of course.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one else wants to write about the

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Speaker 3: ladder obviously.

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Speaker 2: Know a lot of people. A lot of people want

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Speaker 2: to read about the ladder.

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Speaker 3: That's why I do for the loyal readers.

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Speaker 4: I hope you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Max Adelaide is the new flag favorite Fair or Fast.

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Speaker 3: So that's different. That's a different question to looking at

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Speaker 3: the ladder though, Yes, that's vibes right. Well I have

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Speaker 3: going to put your life on a team winning the flag,

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Speaker 3: would you pick Adelaide?

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Speaker 2: Probably on the mechanics and the numbers, maybe yes, But

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Speaker 3: I think Adelaide deserves to be flag favorites because they

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Speaker 3: as long as they beat West Coast and North are

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Speaker 3: a very good chance of finishing top two and then

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Speaker 3: it's two adelade Over finals away from a Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take that much to get there. I wrote

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Speaker 3: that weird thing in the week one of finals. It's

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Speaker 3: to feel like that whence Adelaide gets there, it's going

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Speaker 3: Like if they're going to be hosting, as I'm predicting

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Speaker 3: that is an enormous opportunity for them if it were

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Speaker 3: I think that's because of their defense. They can leak

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Speaker 2: So from a crow's perspective, I assume you still left

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Speaker 2: Friday Night's win over Hawthorne will glass half full rather

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Speaker 4: Taylor of two carters into halftime. Yeah, they just completely

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Speaker 4: cleaned up. They're getting absolutely smoked it Clearance. I think

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Speaker 4: Marke Kane had just an incredible first half. I think

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Speaker 4: which was is you don't see that very often, blow

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Speaker 4: team performance and individual brilliance, and I think that sort

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Speaker 4: The only thing will be finals experience, but definitely Glass

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Speaker 4: half fall. The only thing I would say is, I

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Speaker 3: They're won like nine of ten, maybe nine of ten.

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Speaker 2: Are you a big believer in the loss you need

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Speaker 4: I am across most sports, particularly a footy and cricket.

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Speaker 2: But that coming in round twenty three.

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Speaker 4: It would be the one Collingwood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the problem there is that that could cost

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Speaker 2: so I said that they will beat will be no cost.

437
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Speaker 2: So if they lose to Collingwood, do you think they

438
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Speaker 2: won't make the top two.

439
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Speaker 3: If Brisbane wins out, they would miss top two.

440
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Speaker 2: And Brisbane plays in the next three weeks.

441
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Speaker 3: Of Sydney at home, three away, Hawthorne at home.

442
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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a bit tricky.

443
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Speaker 3: Three losable games like you would tip Brisbane, but not

444
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Speaker 3: with huge confidence in.

445
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Speaker 2: All of them.

446
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: The freeer away could be tricky, so if there is

447
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 3: a stumble Bay someone else, they'll be fine. But that's

448
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: when I was doing the there's a five team race

449
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Speaker 3: for top four right now, with Adelaide, Brisbane, Gelong, Collingwood

450
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Speaker 3: and Gold Coasts the fifth. Because I think they can

451
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Speaker 3: win out and get there, especially because they could build

452
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Speaker 3: percentage against Eston in that final game.

453
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Speaker 2: Of the season, which they.

454
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Speaker 3: Could literally go into that game meeting to win by

455
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Speaker 3: twelve goals and easily do so. It would be quite funny,

456
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Speaker 3: not for rest end fans, but that's what makes it

457
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: so interesting that you know, I have Collingwood finishing fifth

458
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Speaker 3: now on percentage because of that, which sounds crazy, and

459
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Speaker 3: I think it's eleven different results need to happen for

460
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Speaker 3: them to finish a finished fifth. But of course that

461
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Speaker 3: means just one thing falls over and it doesn't happen

462
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Speaker 3: and they stay in the top four and they're fine.

463
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Speaker 3: But those were the most likely results all happening, so

464
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Speaker 3: it is what gets Collingwood to fifth.

465
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Speaker 2: So will on the pies ding ding ding, there's alarm

466
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Speaker 2: bells at Collingwood fair or fast.

467
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Speaker 4: I think it's fair for the sole reason that if

468
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Speaker 4: you're the they had the mind a premiership in the

469
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Speaker 4: box set like they're in the box seat, not unlosable,

470
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Speaker 4: but it was. They looked very, very good for.

471
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Speaker 2: Two and a half games clear and then you lose

472
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Speaker 2: three and four.

473
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Speaker 4: And I'm a big fan of Craig McCrae, but having

474
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Speaker 4: heard his press conferences in the last few weeks, they

475
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Speaker 4: have a lot of players to come in. I will preface,

476
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Speaker 4: but just I don't know if it's a public face

477
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Speaker 4: and it's different behind closed doors, but I would have

478
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Speaker 4: been speaking in a different vein after losing three from four.

479
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 4: They've all been well Adelaide, Brisbane, Fremantles, Gold Coast, three

480
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Speaker 4: very respectful.

481
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Speaker 3: Opponents and three close losses.

482
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Speaker 4: Close losses, so alarm bells. Feels like a stretch, but

483
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Speaker 4: it's more, it's a lot more than nothing. I think

484
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Speaker 4: it's fair. I don't think you can sit here and say, oh,

485
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 4: they've lost three to the last four, but they're you know,

486
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: humming along. But yeah, the players, they've got to come

487
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Speaker 4: in at full strength I think go a long way,

488
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 4: and a lot of them are experienced players. They're not

489
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Speaker 4: guys in their first, second, third year and as we know,

490
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 4: experience in finals just you know, is invaluable. So yeah, fair,

491
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Speaker 4: but it's not it's not as bad what it looks.

492
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Speaker 3: When they were fourteen and two, everyone was thinking they're

493
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Speaker 3: not that far ahead of the pack, are they? And

494
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Speaker 3: then they've lost a few close ones while having some

495
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Speaker 3: availability problems, which which is a genuine problem. People are

496
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Speaker 3: probably understated is the amount of change they've had to

497
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Speaker 3: make first to the midfield, some of it forced by

498
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Speaker 3: bringing back Tom Mitchell, and then the defensive absentees, which

499
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: flows on for the rest of the ground because if

500
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Speaker 3: they can't intercept properly, they can't launch properly in all

501
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: of that stuff. So I think they're about where they

502
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 3: should be one of the top teams, but was vulnerable

503
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Speaker 3: to being beaten by other good teams because it's a

504
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: very even top eight or nine right now, and that

505
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 3: does mean in an even season that the top four

506
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: is even more important because any structural advantage you can

507
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Speaker 3: gain from the bracket feels even bigger when every game's

508
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Speaker 3: close to a fifty to fifty.

509
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Speaker 2: Okay, the other end of the top eight, Maxi Hawthorne

510
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 2: is now the most vulnerable top nine team. Fair or

511
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Speaker 2: fast has to be fair.

512
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Speaker 3: That has to be fair because they've still got Collingwood

513
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: this week and then Brisbane away to end the season

514
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: and a Melbourne team that I mean, I guess they

515
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: could be emotional and playing for good two weeks later,

516
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: although you'd think it would run out by then. So

517
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: this is the problem. It's a race to fifteen wins

518
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: and they've got the hardest path, so if they don't

519
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 3: beat one of Collingwood or Brisbane, they will not get

520
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: to fifteen wins, and you'd think everyone else will and

521
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: the only team that's less likely to get to fifteen

522
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: would be the Bulldogs and they've got a percentage of

523
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: a million, so they're going to finish above Hawthorne if

524
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: they get stuck on fourteen wins with them. So if

525
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Speaker 3: Hawthorne does not beat Collingwood this week, that seems like

526
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Speaker 3: the one because I think a lot of people will

527
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: be saying this at home it's their best chance. Going

528
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: to Brisbane in the final round is going to be

529
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 3: tricky when Brisbane's probably going to be playing for top two.

530
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 3: So if they don't win this one, they're in big

531
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: trouble and needing Fremantle or GWS to slip up. Freoh

532
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: should get to fifteen this weekend by beating Port they

533
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: would be relatively safe, although the percentage is still the problem.

534
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: And then GWS have got North this week and sin

535
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: Kilda in the last round, so two very good chances

536
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: to get fifteen wins. So Hawthorne does not feel like

537
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: a team that should miss finals and I think they

538
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: would safely be the best team to ever miss the

539
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: top eight. No one's ever missed with fourteen wins, so

540
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Speaker 3: that would be history itself. And I just think on

541
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: the eye test they feel like a very good team.

542
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 2: They do that they're being squeezed. Have they been the

543
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: most patchy team? The Bulldogs probably would have an argument, but.

544
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: They haven't had that many bad losses, Like the gather

545
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: around to Port is even worse in retrospect and felt

546
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: bad at the time. But then they've had a bunch

547
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: of close losses to good teams and their fixture has

548
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: played a part in this because they've got Brisbane twice,

549
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: Collingwood twice and Adelaide twice, which might be the top

550
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: three teams of the comp So then no one thought

551
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Speaker 3: Adelaide is going to be this good, but that's ended

552
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Speaker 3: up hurting them. And then although they did beat them

553
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Speaker 3: once so that.

554
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: In that University of Tasmania stadium, thank you, yes.

555
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: Double checking as I mentioned it, so like they're going

556
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: to end up I think if they the projected record

557
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 3: I have for them was fourteen wins, nine losses, and

558
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: six of those losses were coming against teams they played twice,

559
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: so that's the fixture hurting them. In a way it

560
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: did not hurt someone like Geelong, who have actually lost

561
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Speaker 3: quite a few games to teams they played twice like

562
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Speaker 3: sin Kilda, but have also gotten the chance to beat

563
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 3: up on Port. We'll beat up on Esthendon this week

564
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: and so on so forth. So that's how much.

565
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: Will since Kilda fans is love for Nasaia wangone miller

566
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: and please for him to stay will have zero impact

567
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: fair or fast.

568
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: That's a good question, but more or less impact than

569
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: inviting him over to the house with a bunch of

570
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: rich blokes. I feel very comfortable in that environment.

571
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure it can't be a bad thing, right, Like,

572
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: if it's ever going to be anything, it's going to.

573
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: Be good, better than Bronx cheers.

574
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Speaker 4: I think at this point again, I mean, my opinion

575
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: on this means next to nothing, but the financial aspect

576
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: of it I think isn't meaning too much anymore. I mean,

577
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: once you get to the point that Thesia is that,

578
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: I don't think there's much to it. So I think

579
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 4: the emotional impact, like a win after the sire and

580
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: you play a key role against Melbourne has that's intangioule

581
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: and that's something that as I said last week, Port

582
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: and Adelaide can't take or get for themselves with the

583
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: sire having such an emotional fan base like San Kilda

584
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: showing up in numbers and having signs holding around the

585
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: ground and saying we love Nasia and pleading for him

586
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: to stay. I think it can only be a good thing.

587
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 4: How much he actually weighs into it, I don't really

588
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 4: think a whole lot. But you know, the club and

589
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 4: their fan based clearly hold him in as higher regard

590
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: as they have anyone, probably since like a locker, and

591
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: that's well before my time. I can't even speak to that.

592
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, it can only be a good thing. But

593
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: it's a fascinating way.

594
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: It's not the reason he would go or stay. No,

595
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: it could be a reason in the back of your head,

596
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: but it's not the reason he's going to make a

597
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: decision in the end.

598
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: I don't think he's actively thinking about it in his process.

599
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: Do you think he's made it up? We're talking about

600
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: trying to get inside of the guy's mind, right, Do

601
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: you think he knows what he's doing?

602
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: I think so.

603
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: I don't think you could go to it like everything

604
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: has really I mean, maybe with the exception of one

605
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars a year after that has been reportedly

606
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: added to his contract after the sign whever Melbourne. Everything

607
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: has been on the table for close to two months now.

608
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: Adelaide's been there since February this year. Around then. His

609
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: connections with Port stem around that like that early and

610
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: that's when players from Port We're probably starting to reach

611
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: out and have chats about, hey, you know, come to

612
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Aurison like nothing has changed in the landscape for a while.

613
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: Maybe he's looking for something to pop out at him

614
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks. I don't know what

615
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: that would be, but clearly I think it's become a

616
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: point where it's been in his best interest to wait

617
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: it out until the end of the season because he's

618
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: worth has literally gone up and up each week. I think,

619
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Speaker 4: you know, I think, you know. I think it's the

620
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: same as like you know, for a rogue sidestep like

621
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Speaker 4: Graham Wright and Carlton mircaol Voss. I think Graham right

622
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: probably knows what he wants to do. I think, yeah,

623
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: the people like him and some killda in the side.

624
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: Everyone's been able to sit back and make a decision

625
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: for the last couple of months.

626
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 3: You're waiting for persuasive evidence to take you the other way,

627
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: but knowing that you have time to make your decision.

628
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: And also it can't hurt because, as you're saying, some

629
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: Kilda's office going up, ideally, Port's offers going up ideally,

630
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: Adelaide's office going up at the same time.

631
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing. Sorry,

632
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: there's no issue in him waiting out the season. From

633
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: his perspective, Sat Judia fans obviously have the right to

634
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: be nervous and he clearly can't be that committed to

635
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: Saint Culda because he would have resigned by now, I think,

636
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: like in this last week period. But yeah, no one knows.

637
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: Max losing Jack Sylvan he would be one of the

638
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: great trade fumbles by Carlton fair or fast.

639
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: What depends if they want to be good next year

640
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: or not, if they're not going to be good, does

641
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: it matter? Like it's it's pretty okay. What makes it

642
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: a million times worse is the fact that it's Collingwood

643
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: that he would be going to right if he goes

644
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: to the Bulldogs. Not only is that great recruiting from

645
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs who need defenders, but it also is bolstering

646
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: a contender, and then there's no emotional like, how could

647
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: you snub us for the Dogs but for Collingwood. Sure,

648
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: sure they'd hate that. So yeah, I could understand being

649
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: very frustrated with that, especially if they're offering roughly the

650
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: same amount of money, Yeah, which is what it sounds like. Yeah,

651
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's pretty weird from Carlton. You know, they

652
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: could use Jack Sulvanna next year. Certainly, it's not like

653
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: they're going to try and rebuild over the next few years.

654
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: They still try to win a flag right now, even

655
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: if it means changing a coach and getting one in.

656
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Maybe that well, they couldn't. They couldn't not going to

657
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Speaker 3: persuade him because the timeline is not going to match

658
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: up unless they go and move quickly before the trade period.

659
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Speaker 1: Is it.

660
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a bit of a mess just.

661
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Speaker 2: On This is a slight ancillary question on Craig McCrae's

662
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: openness to admit that the men first date that yes,

663
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: they had a first date and he was keen on

664
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Speaker 2: a second date with Jack Suilvanney. It comes after the

665
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Oscar Alan sam Mitchell meeting came to light, but not

666
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: via you know, Sam Mitchell openly emitting it or Oscar

667
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: Allen openly emitting it. It was reported and the same thing

668
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: has happened in the last twenty four hours with Matthew

669
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: Nicks making a phone call reportedly to Sam Draper as

670
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: kind of a bit of a last minute pitch to

671
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Speaker 2: Draper to come to the Crows when most of the

672
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Speaker 2: discussion reporting had been it was a choice between staying

673
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Speaker 2: at Essenon or going to Brisbane as well? Are we

674
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Speaker 2: kind of a in America? They police this a bit,

675
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Speaker 2: don't they?

676
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

677
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Speaker 4: There are.

678
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Speaker 3: I think there are different rules for different leagues who

679
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: are allowed certain numbers of visits or there's no there's

680
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: anti tampering periods where you can't, but people still do.

681
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Like the stupidity of NBA free agency, for example, twelve

682
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: oh one am it opens and all of these contracts assigned.

683
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: It's like, wow, they were negotiated in the last five minutes,

684
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: I guess, incredible. So like it's it's a winkling system,

685
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: Like you can't point to that and say it's a

686
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: perfect system, right. I think every comp realistically is having

687
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: things like this where coaches are talking to players in season.

688
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: And last one, will you love this one? The push

689
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: in the back rule has been quietly redefined fair or fast?

690
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Speaker 4: Jared Healy would answer this question far better than I

691
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Speaker 4: would Ben and at length.

692
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Speaker 2: Well at the present time, you would say yes, fair, yes, yeah.

693
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Speaker 2: Did you see much of the Melbourne West Coast stuff

694
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Speaker 2: that he was on the call?

695
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: He was on the call, I heard him, I'd be

696
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: having to rack my brain to try and find these

697
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Speaker 4: so he talking about.

698
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Speaker 2: So and this sort of peaked mind because I didn't

699
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Speaker 2: see a lot of the game on the Saturday. But

700
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Speaker 2: then he was on the Kilda North Melbourne coverage and

701
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Speaker 2: put to Ross Lyne pre game, what are your thoughts

702
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: on the push in the back? You know, Jared's been

703
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: on the push in the back rule and campaigning for

704
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Speaker 2: it to be strictly enforced or better in forced, for

705
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Speaker 2: the past seven years. Ross sort of talked about how

706
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: he struggled to get his head around it. But then

707
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Speaker 2: I went, why is Jerry going about this so strongly?

708
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: So I went back and watched a little bit of

709
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: Melbourne West Coast Lucky you and got through the goals

710
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: and there were so many goals. I want to say

711
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: at least four across the first three quarters where West

712
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: Coast defenders gave away free kicks for pushing the backs

713
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: that directly led to set shot goals for Melbourne. And

714
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Speaker 2: Jared was in commentary and I think I would love

715
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Speaker 2: to get the camera on him. I reckon he wouldn't

716
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: have been able to believe. His eyes would have been

717
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: absolutely blowing up.

718
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Speaker 4: I mean him and I had a very good chat

719
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: at length about two months ago on an article and

720
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: pushing on multiple chaps, multiple chats, pushing the back. He's

721
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: very strong, and it's just I don't know how else

722
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: you can put it. It is such an ambiguous rule that

723
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: different umpires officiate differently. Sometimes if you're West Coast again,

724
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: without having seen the footage, he's just going to get

725
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: a bad day. Sometimes umpires are just red hot on

726
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: a rule. Maybe they have under officiated the week before.

727
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: The feedback they've had from the umpiring house is, hey,

728
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: maybe just looked for a little bit, Maybe you missed

729
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: a couple last week, and then it's just like bang

730
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: bang bang bang bang.

731
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Speaker 3: Is the suggestion that Greg Spawn has done this and

732
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: that was his conspiracy theory, Yes, that he's come in

733
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: and shorter quarters and pushing the back. Hey remember that rule, please.

734
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Speaker 4: The specifically in Melbourne West Coast at Marvel Stadium, the

735
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: importance twenty. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, the one that would

736
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: go under the radar the most.

737
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Speaker 2: But Jared's point was that he saw it similarly enforced

738
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: in Sydney Essendon and then there were and then sort

739
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: of no punishments in Collingwood Brisbane.

740
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: I saw those the four clips that you mentioned, of

741
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: the four goals that West Coast gave away, all of

742
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: them looked like clear pushes in the back to me.

743
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: So if that is what we're paying, absolutely pay those.

744
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people who have watched

745
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: footy for a long time look at so many of

746
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: those incidents and think that you could pay more. I

747
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: don't think that hurts the game at all.

748
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: We are we pushing them, pro pushing the back or

749
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: pro hands in the back.

750
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: I hate that we have to do the distinction. I

751
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: understand the distinction, but it's what makes it so messy

752
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: is the problem is that people are seeing nudges in

753
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: the back or fore arms in the back that would

754
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: be an illegal push without being a hand.

755
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: I've played probably less footy than you have will. But

756
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: when I've been pushed in the back, even if markers

757
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: up right, yes, it is quite you get pushed forward

758
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: and it is Yeah. It puts you off your line

759
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: so much and it feels it just feels illegal.

760
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially when you're going out, Like speaking

761
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: about like the top one zero point five percent of

762
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: athletes and athletes in Australia, like the momentum and the

763
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: speed they're going up towards the ball. Any slight decoy

764
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: can obviously push you off a fair bit. I don't

765
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: know for mine. I think hands in the back removes

766
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: a little bit more ambiguity, the difference between holding your

767
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: ground with your arm or your and the distinction between

768
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: a push. I know that it was ironically brought in

769
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: to try and create less of a gray area.

770
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: I think he's probably created more. But that's the problem.

771
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the rules that's always going to

772
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: be ambiguous in the game, regardless of that.

773
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: But at least you can understand it more than holding

774
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: the ball. Regular people understand pushing the back more than

775
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: they understand holding the ball. So it's why it's an

776
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: easier one to fix, and more if you're trying to

777
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: come in and be the new AFL house people who

778
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: are running the game and get people on side immediately.

779
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: It's things like that that will help, and things like

780
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: without changing the rules, having shorter quarters and going to

781
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: games next year and feeling like they're not dragging on.

782
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: We don't want thirty five minute quarters constantly like that

783
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: will make people enjoy the game more and then people

784
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: will be supporting you.

785
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: Well. Whenever you mentioned yeah, whenever you mentioned pushing the

786
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: back to Jared or he brings it up, I just

787
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: think of the channel of being meme that has can

788
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: open words everywhere. Every time it's now not time for

789
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: the mail bag, we're gonna hearing from the wisdom of

790
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: one of football's great characters.

791
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: Do you think Kevin's a chance to get the Melbourne job?

792
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: Put him put his hand up.

793
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I would say it'd be a bold move by the

794
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Melbourne board.

795
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: If maybe they What they just need to do is

796
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: get the Essendon people back in charge of a club

797
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: because they ran Eston so well for the last twenty years.

798
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: Bring in Herdie Sheedy as a GM of footy, you know,

799
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: bring back the glory. Yeah, or heard to the two

800
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: thousand grand five Herd has.

801
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Been linked to the Melbourne John That was the name

802
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: I left out.

803
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: Just before the hand. How long are we going to

804
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: do this that James Herd gets mentioned as a serious contender.

805
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 4: If he's a wild card, what does that make Seedy?

806
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: What he's almost they've almost been as recent as senior

807
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: coaches in the AFL, like they were both at GWS

808
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: at times. Heard had a year when he came back

809
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: after the drug saga and then left. Like are they

810
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: going to change the name of the GWS Medal by

811
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 3: the way, from the Kevin Sheedy Medal to the Callan Award?

812
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Have they good?

813
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 4: They should?

814
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: That's good because it's a pun that I've stolen fro

815
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Twitter and I can't remember who I stole it from.

816
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: But I see what you did there because it's name,

817
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: good name. I just don't think you could do that

818
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: to Footy Furnace turned out of it.

819
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: That's true.

820
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: He's the core of that show. Friend all right, afternoon,

821
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: Tom Kevin is There's plenty to say, as we know,

822
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: just a little brief one about his backstory. Here let

823
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: us go. We've got a big news day. We're going

824
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: to get back to the desks. So Kevin Sheedy, of course,

825
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: grew up in pran Pra Pran pran Pran, as we know,

826
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: in a city.

827
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: And yet.

828
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: The narrator says, Kevin Sheedy's first memory is of being

829
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: lifted onto a white horse by his father Tom, who

830
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: is in shirt sleeves and wearing a hat. Kevin says

831
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: he was about three and a half years old at

832
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: the time, and pressed admits his memory and they have

833
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: been held by a photograph given to him by his

834
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Aren't Mary Sheety? I know my dad loved horses and

835
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: always wore a hat. He said that picture was probably

836
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: taken at an agricultural show up near Brotham where he

837
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: grew up. He used to take us kids up there

838
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: for holidays when we were little, or it could have

839
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: been at a stable in Mooney Ponds, near where my

840
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: aunt Mary lives. Dad used to take pattern me with

841
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: him to the stables sometimes when he wanted to chat

842
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: with the owner. He loved looking at and touching horses. Yes,

843
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: interesting quote the end there, Yes, thank you for that horses.

844
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: That's the way it's going to be.

845
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: But I was thinking normally when you read it out

846
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: in the Sheety voice, I can picture it I can't

847
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: quite sort of picture him saying it that aggressively when

848
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: recounting his early man.

849
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: Look at this photo of me on a horse. I

850
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: was a baby.

851
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not that we're going to go into it,

852
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: just what comes before and after that text for that

853
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: to just like mesh like it did.

854
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: That's the start of a chapter. Interesting and then he

855
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: goes on it. So this is the first book of course.

856
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: A touch of cunning, yes, a touch of cunning. And

857
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: it's about his childhood at the start. That's why there's

858
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: the photo of the ghost baby on the cover that

859
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: we are.

860
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: That's not the one where he's on the horse, is it.

861
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: Well, he's standing up on grass side unless the horse

862
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: is very very small.

863
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: It's a pretty agricultural book, so checks out.

864
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: Could be well, he's standing on a road, so it's

865
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: not that's like cult. I mean you can stand on

866
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: the road in the country, I guess and not be

867
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: scared of getting run over.

868
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: Looking forward to hearing more pockets of greatness, touch of

869
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: Cunning from Kevin Sheedy as we tick down towards the

870
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: grand final show of Thefity podcast.

871
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: You've got to stop hyping up. I've literally had multiple

872
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: people ask me if we're getting shety On for the

873
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: grand file. We have no contact with the man. I

874
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: have no interest in having once in mocking the man

875
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: in front of his face by reading his old passages

876
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: of text.

877
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: I Reckon might be surprised.

878
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: I mean, we can have an interesting chat, I'm sure,

879
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: but scary.

880
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: Let's look ahead to Round twenty two of the Toyota

881
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: AFOL Premiership season, starting with Hawthorn Collingwood Bo Nixon Cup

882
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: up for grabs. Here word enormous stakes, he max, yes this.

883
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: If Collinwood loses this, they are a great chance of

884
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: missing the top four. If Hawthorne loses this, they are

885
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: a great chance of missing the finals. And to be honest,

886
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: I think the round starts and ends with this game

887
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: because all the others kind of think yes, So I

888
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: am going to lean Collingwood and the belief that with

889
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: their players they're getting back Jeremy Howe, Billy Franton, the

890
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: chance that will reinforce their defense and just get them

891
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: over the line. But absolutely I could say Hawthorne getting

892
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: up for this and winning an important one.

893
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: I think colin would win response after three losses in

894
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 4: four weeks. But I'll be fascinated to see how Hawthorne responders.

895
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people will be given their

896
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: season is quite literally on the line.

897
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: Geelong and essenon blockbuster GMHBA Stadium clash for the Glenn

898
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Killpatrick Cup. Here gee long by how much?

899
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: This is a Saturday one forty five game? Like, what

900
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: are we doing?

901
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: I don't know. It could be good for Jamy to

902
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: fill his boots in prime time.

903
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: Literally the only thing that we're watching for it this point.

904
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: Like percentage kind of matters because Geelong could maybe catch

905
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: Audelaide on percentage.

906
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: What other game would you put this round on the

907
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Friday night? Maybe Brisbane Sydney.

908
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: Brisbane Sydney.

909
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, let it be a risk from a broadcast perspective, Yes.

910
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: Because we need Victorian clubs.

911
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh yes, we know.

912
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: The problem was we understand that Essendon and Carleton we

913
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: needed to be placed in a lot of these games

914
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 3: because A their Victorian clubs and that's good for TV,

915
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: and B because they were expected to play early in

916
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: round twenty four. So that's why they've done. But they're

917
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: twenty one dollars.

918
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: That's long odds.

919
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: I would say bet responsibly, but do not bet. Yes,

920
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: let's say seventy.

921
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 4: Seventy ninety six.

922
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: You know we said last week how we were discussing

923
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: how close Jeremy Cameron will get to the Ton. Yes,

924
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: so we got six. How many goals do you give

925
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: him against Essendon? Seven, Rocky Blackiston, Roden shotgun down back there.

926
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: Nine.

927
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: It literally depends on how much they intentionally feed him

928
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: in the second.

929
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Half, which I think there are signs of that, but.

930
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: They didn't do a lot of it. They only kicked

931
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: two in the second half against.

932
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: Port like it was weird.

933
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: I was looking for him enough. No, it felt like

934
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: they were they.

935
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Forgot Jack Martinus pounced up. I did.

936
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: I was suggesting to people in the office that every

937
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: long player who kicked a goal and was not name

938
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: Jeremy Camery should be fined ten thousand dollars in the

939
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: second half early please six two five zero, that's only fair.

940
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: Richmond and Soon Kilda early Saturday game Dean Polo Cup. Yes,

941
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: grabs here.

942
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: Saints have a nice little run here. They're not probably

943
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: not going to get to ten wins, which they've had

944
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: every year this decade, at least a half decade of averageness.

945
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: But they should win this.

946
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: Yes, they should win.

947
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: This Brisbane and Sydney Saturday Twilight. Ben fixed a cup

948
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: up for grabs here.

949
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: Brisbane should win this.

950
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: Brisbane should win this, and if Sydney play anything like

951
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: they did against Essendon on Saturday Twilight last week, Brisbane

952
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: will win.

953
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: By a lot.

954
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: That was a bit stinky.

955
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: It was an awful game, two and a half hours

956
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: and never get back.

957
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: Thank you will.

958
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: They were paid for it, though at.

959
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: Least I was. But I would be happy to give

960
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: up the hours that I was paid for doing that

961
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: game to have under seeing that we'll take that to

962
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: h We will.

963
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: Carlton and gold Coast for the Daniel Gorange Cup.

964
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 3: So if there's going to be an upset, reluctantly said.

965
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Then reluctantly, I used to love it.

966
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: No, it's Richmond's funny good bit. If there's going to

967
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: be an upset this round this day, Saturday is sort

968
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: of the more interesting day. I think, Oh, hang on,

969
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: if there's going to be I'm asking the question. I'm

970
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: not saying it's going to be this one necessarily, but

971
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: we know gold Coast comes to Marvel and does weird

972
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: things like they weren't great against Essendon, lost to Richmond

973
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: Carlton played pretty well against Free Oh they did for

974
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: a half.

975
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: Yep, they did the.

976
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: Classic Carlton thing. If Carlton was in continent for the finals,

977
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: that game would have been the biggest story of the

978
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: round because oh my god, Carlton did it again. No

979
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: one cares because they're already out. I'm just saying, like,

980
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: there's there's a sneaky chance that they do something here

981
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 3: is they're not?

982
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sons have been pretty impressive in their comprehensive

983
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: in their past two weeks.

984
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: Are they not due a bad performance?

985
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: I am a slot. I am a believer in the

986
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: loss you need to have before finals. This is not

987
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: that I don't think so. I think gold Coasts need

988
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: to keep winning.

989
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: No, they do, they do, absolutely, and I'm tip. I'm

990
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: tipping them obviously. They're thirty four and one top nine

991
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: against bottom nine teams. Yeah, over the last thirty five

992
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: and the one loss was freer to Sydney when Sydney

993
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: were favorites. So that's why the lad is so weird

994
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: right now. The favorites are just winning more games than

995
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: they usually do. Yeah, that's the problem.

996
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: I agree with will sentiment about the Crows, like losing

997
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: the Collingwood if they don't, Yeah, losing to Collingwood I

998
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: think might be a nice sharpener UPPERO.

999
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: It just lets you. It reminds you that you know

1000
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: what things that you need to fix and not everything's perfect.

1001
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: I think for the Crows, specifically to win twelve in

1002
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: a row to go to Grand four, or eleven in

1003
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: a row to win a Grand Final, that that's very unlikely.

1004
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: Is it not?

1005
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: More you need the loss that you need to have

1006
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: when you're winning games unconvincingly though, that's the difference. If

1007
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: you're winning convincingly and playing really well, maybe it's not

1008
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: so much of a thing. And also it's something we

1009
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: completely make up because I think we just presume that

1010
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: teams need a loss because sometimes we see a lot

1011
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: of wins and then they lose a weird one. It's like, oh,

1012
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: they should have had they should have lost a game

1013
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago and they would have been fine. Yeah.

1014
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: I think the five goals that the Trows considered in

1015
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: the first quarter like that, that in itself was a

1016
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: mining that was the reality check.

1017
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: Okayah, so that could also.

1018
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: Work port Adelaide and fremantle Ken Hinckley's third last game

1019
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: in charge.

1020
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: Jed mcint his fiftieth picked.

1021
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: And also announced earlier that Travis Boke would play out

1022
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: his final three games AFL game, so he'll get the

1023
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: three eight seven. I think pretty pretty good stint.

1024
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: That's an incredible stint as an interstate play.

1025
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: Look, it's a shorter flight, but it's still a flight

1026
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: every week from adelaide As.

1027
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: You would be well.

1028
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: Aware if Port was what they should be, this would

1029
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: be the upset chance of the weekend Freo playing away.

1030
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: You know, you never know, but no.

1031
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: Freer Yeah big yeah. Beaten up by Carlton in the

1032
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: West six day break Yeah.

1033
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, It's believable that Port would win this.

1034
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: It's easy for me to day having not submitted my

1035
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 4: tips for around twenty two yet I'm going to go Port.

1036
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: Why not?

1037
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: You're trying to catch up.

1038
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Also, just getting up for the fifty game. I reckon you.

1039
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: Happiness edges in there.

1040
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: How many weeks in a row has it been Jed's

1041
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: possible fiftieth to be fair, No, well, he's played the

1042
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: last two weeks and he played very well on the

1043
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: This is what I missed when I'm overseas mcintee status.

1044
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: He will come back in around the same time that

1045
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: you left to Balley, so well coincidence, I think not.

1046
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: The Giants host North Melbourne for the Aiden Bonner Cup.

1047
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: This is it man Sorry at Corrobie Corrobberie Group Oval Manica. Yes,

1048
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: is the weirdest name stadium in the country.

1049
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 2: Now, need to get my mouth around that because next

1050
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: week I'm traveling to Manica Oval. Excuse me, Corrobberie Group

1051
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: Manka Oval.

1052
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: No. No, it's listed on a dot com to you

1053
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: as Corrobberie Group Oval Manica.

1054
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: Corrobberie Group Oval Manica for round one of the afl

1055
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: W between the Giants and Essendon. So I need need

1056
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: to get my head around that.

1057
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: A transitional phase. Do we think like you can keep

1058
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: Manica for now and then we're eventually maybe as identified.

1059
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: It came up as a graphic in one of our

1060
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: games in the last couple of weeks and it was

1061
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: you know how, it's just like normally would be m

1062
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: O for Manka Oval. It came up as CGM, which

1063
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: was incredibly confused.

1064
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so it is Oval Manarker then that is actually

1065
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: is right. Apparently it's a coding mistake. It's interesting.

1066
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: It's what it's like how we've done here in Melbourne

1067
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: since the rebrand of Melbourne Sports Center Parkville.

1068
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought we're gonna talk about Melbourne Rectangular Stage

1069
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: that too. It's also quite fun. Giants win, Giants win,

1070
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: have to win.

1071
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Pretty ordinary performance from the Giants last Thursday against the Dogs.

1072
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: The Dogs though, take on the Troy Chaplin led Demons,

1073
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: Mitch Hannon Cup up for grabs Sunday afternoon.

1074
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: That's a good one can previs asked, would you have

1075
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: liked to have seen good you had a goodbye game?

1076
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: No?

1077
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 2: I don't, No, I don't think so what I did

1078
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: forget to mention before him? This is probably the first

1079
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: genuine sacking that we've had in a while. Yes, where

1080
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: most clubs, and I think credit to Melbourne been transparent.

1081
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: Yet most clubs always talk about a mutual parting of ways.

1082
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: But I think Melbourne were pretty clear in their language

1083
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: that someone good was told you not getting you're not coaching.

1084
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, in terms of language, yes, Adam Simpson was a sacking.

1085
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: I think it's been pretty clear from what he is

1086
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: intimated on air and stuff like that that he was

1087
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: not attempting to leave at that time, so that that

1088
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: was a party of the ways. That was ninety nine

1089
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: from one side. But no, you're right, it's the more

1090
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: surprising one we've had in a while in terms of

1091
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: the time. Dogs, Dogs, Dogs.

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00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: No emotional uplift here for a sugar hit for Melbourne

1093
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: you think.

1094
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: I mean if they want to try and repeat the

1095
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: Grand Final performance, Yes, win by what eighty that'd be?

1096
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: That would be surprising if that happened again.

1097
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: A hell of a performance to do that against the

1098
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: Dogs team fighting for their season. Yes, to win having

1099
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: just lost your coach.

1100
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: If we know anything about these Dogs that they don't

1101
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: lose to bottom nineteen right.

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00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: And then we finished with West Coast and Adelaide off

1103
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: the stadium for the Tysons Tyson Stengline. Now a couple

1104
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: of years ago they played in round the final round

1105
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: of the season. That's when Taylor Walk went nuts still

1106
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: in his boots.

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00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, jeez. It is literally one v eighteen.

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: Last six, last four games, Crows by sixty six, Crows

1109
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: by ninety nine, Crows by forty five, Crows by one

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00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two.

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00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: That was text ten, text ten next, right.

1112
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 3: And that nineteen nine point one was in a season

1113
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: where the Crows were even good.

1114
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where Texts kicked a lost.

1115
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: Now that Jesus he had a lot of goals in

1116
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: a short amount of time against them Crows.

1117
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, unsurprisingly Crows. Are you sure?

1118
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: I think you're right that the round starts and ends

1119
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: on Thursday.

1120
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: Literally, it's fitting that this is the last game of

1121
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: the round.

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00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: It's making up for about three months of crap Thursday

1123
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 3: night game.

1124
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: Are you resting players at the Crows this week?

1125
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1126
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've got every right too. I think

1127
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: it's not silly, but I think it's wise if Tyler

1128
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Walker and some of those other older players don't truvel.

1129
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: I did hear King salon radio yesterday that he wouldn't

1130
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: he wouldn't rest some of the players he reckons on

1131
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: such a roll you just let it play, which I

1132
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: thought was interesting.

1133
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: If you're going to do it, you do it now.

1134
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: You don't do it round twenty four against North at Marvel,

1135
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: because then you could be giving them two weeks off

1136
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: and then that might be too much as your touch.

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