1 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to NRL three sixty Rugby League from every angle. 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: I brought to you by Regain Gordy. 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I cannot believe they're finally letting the Lunatics run. 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: It's about time there, braith. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Is, he's got dallim Judy. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: He's far more important than what we're going to serve 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: up tonight. So you'll see him a little bit later 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: on Brett rudmycarry on. I see here right now, Hollo, gentlemen. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: The promotion. 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get through because we've got 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: our through sixty and we've got to find out what 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: it is. Gord is excited because we've changed the lighting 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: here and it's probably look, it's award winning live almost 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: and of course they're live on dally M's Live on 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Fox I League the daly Ms and right now let's 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: send it to Eloise Sawyer and Jake Duke. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: They are standing by on the green. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Carpet as all the superstars of our game arrive. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: Thanks, and we're here at the Dali m Awards for 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Right here in the green carpet, it's 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 5: the glitz and the glam for twenty twenty five. Plenty 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 5: of special arrivals already teams concluding the Broncos have come 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: down the green carpet. We'll speak to them and their partners, Jake. 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: It is a huge nine. There is plenty of top 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: awards up for grabs. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Elouise, We're going to be here on the 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 6: green carpet giving out a few of them right after 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 6: NRL three to sixty, including the top try I scorers, 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 6: the top point scorers. Some guys have had terrific seasons 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 6: both in the NRL and NRLW and then of course 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 6: we're inside for the main awards. Who's going to take 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 6: out the top gongs for twenty twenty five James Dedesco. 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 6: He finished second last year. Can he go one better 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 6: this year after terrific year for the Roosters. In the 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 6: women's game, Tamika Upton, she has been absolutely unbelievable for 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 6: the Broncos, the Broncos team that scored thirty seven points 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 6: a game. She's the red hot favorite for the women 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 6: as well. So it's going to be a great, great show, 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 6: great event, and we're going to be joined by a 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 6: couple of superstars here on the green carpet as well. 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: We absolutely are this year in twenty twenty half five, 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 5: we have Sean Johnson and Tiana Pennatini Gray right here 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: in the green carpet to add to this wonderful coverage 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: right here on Fox League. 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: All right, look at that Look at that. 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: Smooth cat. 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: Now I know what he's got, the gig and we're 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: sitting in here. 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: He looked like Braith, looks like a man born to 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: do that, that was he. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Was destined to do it. 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: Look like he should be at the oscars. 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: Can I say they're looking for you, James Bond, aren't they? 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: There's a touch of bond about. 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: Who's going to win this thing. 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: Oh look, well, obviously everybody keeps on talking about James Sidesca. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: But I think there's a couple of smoking I think 58 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: strange from the Raiders. They had a great year. You 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: don't finish first without getting a lot of points. And 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: Reese Balsh I reckon the last six weeks when Adam 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: Reynolds was out. It's fair to say he might have 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: got the six points nowly every game or close to. 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 7: I can't go past James Sisko. 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 8: I think his form was irresistible for a large chunk 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 8: of the season. You know, if we're talking about podium 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 8: finishes from guys on the outside, maybe Blake Brayley. I 68 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 8: think he was probably the form player and the second 69 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 8: half of the competition the Sharks went on a bit 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 8: of a run. 71 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think Teddy wins it. 72 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: I've got no bolters for you. I just think Teddy 73 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: wins and wins in the Canterdaen. 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good resurrection from Murri was a couple 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: of years ago. Someone was on the way down and 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: he's come back and you know, up to near his best. 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Now let's get into the big story of the day 78 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: R through sixty and this big story, the main story 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: brought to you by the by d Shark six and 80 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the NRL you got to. 81 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Say has got to be rocked by. 82 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: This competition now getting officially getting the green light ready 83 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: and Mick because there's a lot of names being floated 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,279 Speaker 1: about it seems. 85 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Like it's a genuine target. It's almost got shades of 86 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Super League about it. 87 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: Well, it does, Dan. The only difference is I'd say 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: they're actually trying to work with the major rugby and 89 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: bodies around the world. Now they haven't got them on 90 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: board at the moment, but certainly got a sense of 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: that about it because it's back by private equity, big 92 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: private equity dollars. You're talking about eight twelve franchise, eight men, 93 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: four women being set up around around the world in 94 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 4: cities like Miami and Los Angeles and lizab in Powis 95 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: some places like that. And I'll play a rolling competition 96 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: in a different different spot each week. Initially next year 97 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: from October to it will be a shortened camp. It'll 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: expand in twenty seven and twenty eight. And so this 99 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: is fifteen a side rugby, it's fifteen in a side rugby. There, 100 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: it's fifteen a side rugby, and it's franchise rugby itchise, 101 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: it's live golf. Yeah, basically, yes. 102 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 7: That's the that's the best comparison without the. 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: Billion people watching it. That's the IP without the billion people. 104 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's going to be multi million dollar paydays for 105 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 8: the players potentially, right, So that's the concern for the game. 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: I heard that. Yeah, But if they do leave their countries, 107 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: they're allow to play test rugby again, is that right? 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the early word today that the AAU 109 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: will not allow them to play test rugby and New 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: Zealand won't either, and some of the other other major 111 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: nations won't consider them for test rugby. So that has 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: been discussed at the moment, but that's something I don't 113 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: think they've officially worked out. 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 8: And that probably does that league more harm than good, 115 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 8: right because the fact that it might open the door 116 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 8: for more league players to go who aren't interested or 117 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 8: don't believe they could play for the Wallabies. Right Like, 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 8: so some guys that don't have ambitions to be dull 119 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 8: internationals or chase. 120 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Are they trying to sell a great product? Well, that 121 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: means that if you go and not being rude, but 122 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: Wendell and like Lodi to Kiri mate, but a lot 123 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: of the guys that go there from league don't shine 124 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: straight away. So if you're trying to sell this product 125 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: around the world, don't you want the best rugby guys? Well, firstly, 126 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: what do. 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: We what money are we talking about? 128 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 9: You? 129 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: What's being murdered? 130 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: Well, we're talking a million dollar a year contracts at US, 131 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: I believe. And there's also suggestions that are there with 132 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: tax breaks because you can domicile yourself and Dubai where 133 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: they don't the tax. 134 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: Rates about it. When you come home, you pay tax. 135 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: Brought points in this competition. 136 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: On one of the points in bold was you can 137 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: live in any country you want, which is translation for 138 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: living Dubai one. 139 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know obviously that would mean you can't 140 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: spend six months a year in Australia because if you 141 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: do that, you taxed under Australian law. But that option 142 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: is there for them. But even without that, we're talking 143 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: bigger contracts and blokes traditionally earned the NRL. We're talking 144 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: a mini in US I believe, I believe they're talking 145 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: and a guy like Joe Gray. The talk there is 146 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: nine hundred grand Australian Joe Grail get to play. 147 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: In which he's never going to get him which. 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: Well might not for a long time. 149 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 8: I understand that's he's on contract contract right, And they're 150 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 8: going to talk about paying their management fees separately as well. 151 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 8: So there's all these things that add up for the players. 152 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: All right, So who are we talking here? 153 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: Well, the names of they've been out there, Papa Hows 154 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: and Lomax, Joe Gray, Nelson, Big Nelson, Roger. 155 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 8: To us he'd be the first one to go, Yeah, Roger, 156 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 8: first one Yeah, he's a bit. 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: He's off contracts. Are the only one that on that 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: is on contract would be Lomax's. 159 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 8: That's the concern, right, the fact that you know, we're 160 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 8: talking Joe Gray, we're talking Roger. Those guys have twelve 161 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 8: months left on their deals before they expire. Zach Lomax 162 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 8: has multiple years left on his contract with Paramatta. 163 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Did I agread correctly? Jason Rolls, the Paramatta coach was 164 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: actually open to the idea of letting him go. 165 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: He's contracted all what the end of twenty eight. 166 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, so this isn't come as surprise to Paramatta because 167 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 8: it's been around for the past what five or six weeks. 168 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 8: Read to the fact that Paramatta were aware of the 169 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 8: potential interest for Zach to go and play our three sixty. 170 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 8: They had a conversation about a month ago, and I 171 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 8: think they parked it because they wanted to see if 172 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 8: this competition were to get off the ground. Now it 173 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 8: looks like it's going to get off the ground, they'll 174 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 8: have some serious conversations. And that's what Jason Rowles was 175 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 8: alluded to, the fact that it was mentioned Jason Rowle 176 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 8: said to Bars that he'd had a conversation with Zach, 177 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 8: and Zach said there was an interest there for him. 178 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 8: So I guess if it comes to a head now 179 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 8: they have to work out what will happen. And if 180 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 8: Zach does ask for a release, right because as you said, 181 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 8: he's got his contracted twenty twenty eight, they sign him 182 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 8: as a marquee player from the Dragons this year and 183 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 8: now they don't really don't want you know, Jason Rowle 184 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 8: says they're open, but they're not pushing Zach Lomax out 185 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 8: the door. This is this would be Zach Lomax's doing, 186 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 8: not Paramatta. 187 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Like you're deep into the Kayl and Ponger cap. 188 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: Well, well, I mean Kaylyn's been linked with Rugby. It's 189 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: been pretty well reported and I think at some point, 190 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 4: you know it's contract to the end of twenty seven. 191 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: He came out and said he was committed to Newcastle 192 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: and the social media post but I'd say it wouldn't 193 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: surprise me if it's on Kaln's radar down the track. 194 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: Forget just for a moment, Let's get back to Zach. 195 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Lime makes because I'm told he is at the Daims 196 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: right now on the green carpet with Eloy Sawyer. 197 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: Zach Lomax alongside me. Zach, you're looking very sharp and 198 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 5: I had nice Is it to dress up for the 199 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: Dallim Awards in twenty twenty five? 200 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always good. 201 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 9: You know, it's different to having the footy boots on, 202 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 9: but yeah, it's good to get here and see everyone, 203 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 9: and yeah, it's always a good night. 204 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 5: Plenty of time to reflect on the transition from the 205 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: Dragons to the Paramatta Eels. How do you sort of 206 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 5: I'm up twenty twenty five in your new colors? 207 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 208 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 9: It was unreal, and you know, I loved every minute 209 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 9: of it. And obviously we started the season a little bit, 210 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 9: a little bit slower than we would have liked to, 211 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 9: but towards the back end we really hit our strips 212 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 9: and yeah, it fills us with a lot of confidence 213 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 9: leaning in the next year. 214 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: I have to ask that there's been talk about this 215 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 5: R three sixty in the media. Is it something that 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: you want to comment now? Is it something that could 217 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 5: be in the future and do you have anything to 218 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 5: say on that? 219 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 9: N No, law, I mean, I'm contacted at the Eels 220 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 9: for another three years, and you know, I love my 221 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 9: time there. And it's yeah, I'm loving every. 222 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: Second of it. 223 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, few times, Zach, No, thank you, thank you. 224 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: So his agent also spoke Zach Climax, and you can 225 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: read this in the Courier mar with Pete Bedell. Zach 226 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: Climax contracted the Paramatter until twenty twenty eight and will 227 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: be playing at Paramatter unless the contract situation changes. 228 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: You can quote me on that. I'm not going to lie. 229 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I've had discussions with R three sixty, but how 230 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: can you lock into something that isn't even there? 231 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: So the doors open clearly. 232 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 8: Well, they're all fair quotes from Clinton Chaikowski there, but 233 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 8: they also says he's contracted to Paramount unless that contract 234 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 8: situation changes. 235 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Gordy, I'm fascinated with the Womax sideer because you talk 236 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: about Roger Tivaskischek with all due respect, and he's been 237 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: a champion, but he's nearly. 238 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Paid rugby league back. 239 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: And he's earned his super animationship. As for Solomon is 240 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of on the outer at paramat ad Milbourne, so 241 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: you can understand that way. We'll talk about Pappenhausing in 242 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: a second because that's interesting too, but Lomax is finally 243 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: discovered who he is as a footballer. He's playing great football, 244 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: not just for praying about it, but so surely there's 245 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: an Australian jumper there. 246 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: Well, you would think if he can come and put 247 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: this to bed. He didn't quite put it to bed 248 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: then in that interview, but if he can put it 249 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: in the bed, there's no doubt the way he's played 250 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: State of Origin, he would be right in the mix, 251 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: the goay with the kangaroo. So then it's his decision 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: whether he wants to go chase the dream, whether it's 253 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: a dream or whether it's money. And I don't grudge 254 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: him on that, but if not, I'm pretty sure that 255 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: the Kangaroo jersey would be right underneath his nose. And 256 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: I think he's got a lot more to give rugby, 257 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: rugby league and the parent matterials. 258 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Now you, I don't want you to be quoted as 259 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: if you're speaking on behalf of Kevy or the Kangaroos, 260 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: but I'm asking you, Gordon Tallos the foremost. 261 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, you watch him in big moments. He hasn't 262 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: played a lot of footy. Obviously they will go play 263 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: the game up in Papa New Guinea. So you think 264 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: that he'd be involved in that. But if he comes 265 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: back in any sort of shape, you would think that 266 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: he'd be one of the wingers with Xavier kch or 267 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: he'd be right. 268 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: There's interesting with Schaikowski's comments because he's been a pretty 269 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: common theme in all this Clinton Schaikowski, He's got Lomax, 270 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: he's got Papaausen, he's got Ji Gray. I believe he 271 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: was involved in Nelson's say for Solomona talks. I've got 272 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: the same club Land people aren't happy with Clint Schaikowski 273 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: because a lot of the fact he's taken a lot 274 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: of his clients to R three sixty and spoken to 275 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: our three sixty. Well Kennedy was offered to R three sixty. 276 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: Will Kennedy is one of his clients as well with 277 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: his management company. So it's interesting in seeing those comments 278 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: from Chock confirming he's spoken to R three sixty, because 279 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: you know, when you ring around about R three sixty 280 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: at the moment, there's one name that is common, and 281 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: it's Clinton Chaikowsky. And I don't think that's gone for Queensland. 282 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: But isn't that his job? 283 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Well, well, you would say it is his job then yes, 284 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: but we're talking about a guy named Zach Lolomax has 285 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: got three years left on his deal, and that's I 286 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: think the one with living that's the one that really 287 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: grinds people because you're talking to R three sixty about 288 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: a player who is under contract for three more years 289 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: and the NERL will be looking at this. Then there's 290 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure at the moment coming from clubland 291 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: to the NRL to look at this, to look at 292 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: agents behavior around this, the circus that's going on, and 293 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: I think, as I said, clubs aren't happy about. 294 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: It, So why do we spend too much time on it. 295 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: We're a rugby league show talking about rugby union because 296 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: significant because no other media outlet in the world. So 297 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: it's not even broken England on players. 298 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: Because I'm what's a genius mate, You've got it before everyone. 299 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: Wow, I's on fire. It's a world exclusion, not even 300 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: like so you beat Bomba and it's a world exclusive 301 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: for me. 302 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 7: It's a big moment. 303 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 8: If we're having discussions around up to ten players leaving 304 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 8: our game, right, and back to to Ree's point, then 305 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 8: your point to Gordy, the fact is the fact that 306 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 8: the issue I've got is contract to blokes that would 307 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 8: moving on. If you're off contract, it please you know 308 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 8: you can be come back, you can do whatever. You're 309 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 8: a free agent, right. But the test is going to 310 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 8: be for the NRL and for the clubs if a 311 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 8: contracted player, whether it's Zach or someone else, wants to 312 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 8: get out of their deal and how they deal with that. 313 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Do you think we put a clause in like the 314 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: rugby union, Well, there's no more origin, there's no more 315 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: rep footy. 316 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 8: I think if you're if you're in contention for the 317 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 8: Kangaroos right and you say you're going to break your 318 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 8: contract or you want to break your contract to go 319 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 8: play rugby, I wouldn't be picking you for Australia or 320 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 8: any representative side if you're off contract like Mark Nolinger 321 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 8: need to no issue if he plays for the Kangaroos 322 00:13:59,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 8: at the end of the. 323 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: Say, I think the emotional response today has been bannimal 324 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: for life. Never let them back in the game. I 325 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: don't think you can do that because I think with 326 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: a girl like Paps and Joe Gray, they're off contract 327 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 4: at the end of the next year, so if they're 328 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: going they're within their rights. But there are some people 329 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: in clubland and are saying, if anyone goes to our 330 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: three sixty, you tell them they're not welcome back said before, 331 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: and I pointed out to someone of the day down 332 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: I said, we take players in rugby as well, so 333 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: it does go both ways. 334 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: I think I heard that about Sonny Bill Williams and 335 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: that's got talent. 336 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: But when you got his talent, he's the worst example 337 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: of someone breaking a contract and we let him back. 338 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if he if. 339 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: We wende, I think they're in the greater concern. 340 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: Hundred clubs is as I said, player agents, and they're 341 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: involved in this because the agents take a lot of 342 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: money out of the game. They earn it right because 343 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: it's they get a commission on what they get players. 344 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: But I think the fact that agents who are involved 345 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: in rugby league are direct in players to an R 346 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: three sixty, I think that is a concern. 347 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: For come. 348 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Four hours ago, Peter Velandi's was saying there's no business case, 349 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: this is not real. They're going to put the games 350 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's nothing. You spoke to it today, Yeah, 351 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and look, I. 352 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: Mean Pete's still got a view that I want to 353 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: see the books. I want to see how this is 354 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: going to work, whether they've got the finances, and I 355 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: think there is still a look. I know they've said 356 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: today we've got the green light that is going to 357 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: go ahead, but I still think there are some questions 358 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: that need to be answered around it. Where's the money 359 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: coming from? You know, have they got enough because there's 360 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: talk they haven't enough money and that's why they're only 361 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: only going to start with six teams next year. So 362 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: I think Pete raises some valid points around the finance 363 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: around this, the viability of it, whether it can survive, 364 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: and if you go to it, what guarantees are you 365 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: are there that you will get the money that you 366 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: are promised. 367 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting next year starts in October. 368 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I suspect it's because they can't get players sooner, but 369 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: then the year after when the COMPS starts proper, properly, 370 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: it's April. 371 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: That's the plan. 372 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 8: And another point around that down as well, is that 373 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 8: there's going to be a draft next year for all 374 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 8: the players that are contracted during the origin period. So 375 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 8: if you sit like so a draft to go play 376 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 8: for Madrid or whoever, what happened during our origin line 377 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 8: in July. 378 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: To me, right, okay, this we're going to make. We've 379 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: made ipl comparisons and with draft and things. 380 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 10: There's a million people in India. They love the game 381 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 10: of and and this is my point. This is not ipal, 382 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 10: this is live golf. No one cares about live golf. 383 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 10: But it's funny money. 384 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: The money is in. That's the point. 385 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: So you can talk about who's going to go to 386 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: these games, who's going to care about these games? 387 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't it's not the game. So live golf doesn't 388 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: help golf, it helps the golfers. 389 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: Well. 390 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Live's modus operandi, one would argue, would have be they 391 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: wanted a seat at the PGA table, and they thought 392 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: if they could buy up all the players, and they 393 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: brought up a fair few, the likes of Rahm, the 394 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: likes of care, the likes of Michelson, that eventually it 395 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: would force the PGA to come to the table and 396 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: legitimize believe people. 397 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is reader, you're aware of 398 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: live does this have to say? What is the purpose 399 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: of this competition? 400 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: I would say the direct comparisons between the two den 401 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: there's a lot of money involved. Players are going to 402 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: get rich and a bit like live gold. Live golf 403 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: lacks that Peter Landis talks about today. What rugul Ling's 404 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 4: got in this country's tribalism. That's why people go and 405 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: watch it because they want to go go and see 406 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: their club. They're invested, They've got an emotional tie to it, right, 407 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 4: Live golf like lacks a bit of emotion, I think so. 408 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: I think this concept is a bit like that. You know, 409 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: Zach Lomax goes and plays for Madrid and they play 410 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: one game a year in Madrid. Who's going to support that? 411 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 8: I think it's actually worse than live golf because golf 412 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 8: is such an individual sport. 413 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, so. 414 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: Go on and I'm watching camp Smith. I would actually 415 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: watch him play because he's a. 416 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 7: Queen to go to play for the Madrid You know, 417 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 7: do they need a coach. 418 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: Lot Gordy. 419 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 4: That'll be the next thing because they need to fill 420 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: out their staff. 421 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago. 422 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: Have a contract. Melbourne really resigned to losing him. Well, 423 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: I think, you know what, I don't think they would 424 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: be that worried. And I'm not talking for Melbourne. I 425 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: think with the injuries, the way he's played, they've got 426 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: that young guy just waiting in the wings as well, 427 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: so far longer, So I think I think they wouldn't 428 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: be upset. 429 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. Yeah, I think they are resigned 430 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: to him going down. And I'm with Gordy. Look, they 431 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: really loved Ryan, right, He's been a great servant for them, 432 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: but they've got some cap difficulties the moment. The cat's 433 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: very tight and he would solve a problem for them, 434 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 4: and they've got so far long they waiting the wings. 435 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: So whilst I think they'd been disappointed to see him go, 436 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 4: it wouldn't devastate them. 437 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: Now we've had a lot of players delaying contracts or 438 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: trying to marry things up with expansion teams. In hindsight 439 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: of players actually been delaying things perhaps for this thing only. 440 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 8: No, I don't think long term contracts have sort of 441 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 8: come into play. It's probably the guys that have been 442 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 8: off contract with their clubs now have delayed it to 443 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 8: sit back to see what happens. Dr Gray is a 444 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 8: prime example. Right South wanted to get that deal done. 445 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 8: They haven't been able to get a deal done because 446 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 8: they're sitting back to see what's going on here. So yeah, 447 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 8: I don't think there's been a lot of it because 448 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 8: I reckon. 449 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: It will happen. Though now this this is this seems 450 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: to have got off the ground. 451 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: But the rugby rugby in the history, other than chasing 452 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: Andrew Johns, right, they only like our wingers and fall backs. 453 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: I don't think they're like the other guys can play. 454 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Bradthorne went across there for a challenge and took less 455 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: money and he wanted to play for the All Blacks 456 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: since he was a young kid. Totally different. But and 457 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: then Sunny Bill, what an athlete. But other than that, 458 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: they've just chased their wings. 459 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 4: House is on their radar. Gordy, pretty handy player. 460 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: How many, you're a good mate? 461 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: He could play three hundred and sixty minutes in that game. 462 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: How many all right? How many do you think they've 463 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: done that? 464 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 7: I think six? 465 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: Six? 466 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, made I reckon tends the excessive number. I think 467 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: they might get ten over the over time. 468 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 8: But the first year I'm saying I reckon the first 469 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 8: year about half a dozen. But we're not talking thirty 470 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 8: to fifty blokes are going to walk out of the game. 471 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: But you know that we will lose a few top 472 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 8: one players to it. There's no doubt about it. And 473 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 8: then when we get an expansion and new team's coming in, Yeah, 474 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 8: that's a bit of a concern. 475 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: The worry is, though, Dan, if this takes off right 476 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: and just say, just say it does get some legs, 477 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: then it gets momentum. Nathan Cleary is our contract the 478 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: end of twenty twenty seven. You know, Bulldog's got the 479 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: great theory about Nathan going to live in Europe and 480 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: hang out with Mary. 481 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: He won't play. 482 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: You could play for living Lisbon with Mery. So that's 483 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: the worry that they don't stop now, they don't stop 484 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: at these guys. Yeah, the money comes in and it 485 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: gathers momentum, gains traction. More money comes into the game 486 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: than Nathan Cleary is on their list, paying houses on 487 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: their list. That's the concern. And I'll tell you what 488 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: it makes really important and the next broadcast negotiation that 489 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: rugby Leagu's do them because they need to know that 490 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: Pitivulanis needs to get that right. Because if he gets 491 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: that right, our salary cap is going to go up 492 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: to twenty to thirty percent, So that means our wages 493 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: is going to be up twenty to thirty percent, which 494 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 4: helps combat this. 495 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Now Storm and Bronco. 496 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the Grand Storm and Broncos have arrived 497 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: in Sydney. 498 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: What's the lightest coming out of the camps? 499 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 8: What Ye, Dan sort of arrived in Sydney. Obviously, big 500 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 8: fan day at Brisbane this morning. Well that's seven thousand 501 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 8: fans there. But yeah, low key arrole for both sides 502 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 8: and aside from Stefan, I's been a pretty low key 503 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 8: build up so far. 504 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, not much report, Dan, Sorry sorry about. 505 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: This, but just the construction work going on that's been 506 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: happening for your peoples. 507 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: Peter and Bomber Bdella, nice crew. 508 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: At the broadcast training what they said about six or 509 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: sousand people there like the shirt chair, so that was good. 510 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: That was probably the people that couldn't get. That was 511 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: the biggest ticket chasing game I think in the history 512 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: of two hundred and fifty thousand people chase. That's more 513 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: than any concert or anything that has been at that stadium. 514 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: And you know, you've got to do your recent game 515 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: swift and bigger than tape. 516 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: This game sold out yesterday, which of course you think 517 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: a Grand Final. 518 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: Of course itsels out. That's pretty early from the regular 519 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: Grand Final. That we sell out yesterday and that's the product. 520 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: Then everybody's about the six again, and we sit here 521 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: and we tend to complain all the time and on 522 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: one of them. But then when you look at where 523 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: the game's got, Like I was a bit bored with 524 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: the game about ten years ago, it was like a 525 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: wrestlers on the way they've cleaned it up, the way 526 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 3: the athletes have come back into it. If you look 527 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: at that game and Camber, if you look at the 528 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: game on Sunday down like your call on a lot 529 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: of these games, do you think the product's better? 530 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: I don't remember it being as exciting. I don't remember 531 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: people being as excited. You could pick it apart. 532 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: You can talk about too many said restards. You can 533 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: find things wrong with it if you want to. 534 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: I just don't remember being as exciting and unpredictable as 535 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: it is. 536 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: I Reckon also highlights the buzzer around the broncos I 537 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: want a company only twenty years and Reese Walsh is 538 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: just an exciting machine and people want to go and 539 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: watch him play well. 540 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen is the best atmosphere Grand Final I've been at, 541 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: and there were no Sydney teams it was Cowboys Broncos 542 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: and with all due respect to the Cowboys fans Queensland 543 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: on holidays, it was the Broncos fans that made that 544 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: and there were thirty I think thirty eight thousand Queenslanders 545 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: came down. 546 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: Obviously Cowboys fans was Sunday down. They said, so you've 547 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: caught Origin up there. I reckon, that's one of the 548 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: greatest atmospheres. 549 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Out I can't remember being louder. It might have been 550 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: when Ben Hunt ran away in Origin and scored. That 551 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: was a pretty loud roar. When Reynolds kicked that goal. 552 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: I'd say that was. 553 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: At least the equal daytime footage. Now I need to 554 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: explain an explanation. You're ready because the normal host of 555 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: this show. I'm going to give you a chance because 556 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: the normal this show absolutely as Gord he. 557 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: Said, he ripped you apart like a hot chick. 558 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Ready's law. Can you explain this to me? 559 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: Is this is this my theory about you need to 560 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: have a to win the comp? It explained to win 561 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: the comp, Dane in the top four an attack and 562 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: it's traditionally historically not every year, but historically top four attack, 563 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: top four defense to win the. 564 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 3: Comp if it's totally every now and. 565 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: Then, No, it's historical dance, it's it's a probability. But 566 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: there you go. 567 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 7: So that wow, you've got to make you got a 568 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 7: load degree as well, so that. 569 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: You have still have the shirt on. 570 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: That shirt that is about that's about two thousand and six, 571 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: it is roughly yet. 572 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: So all right, so you're the storm. 573 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: I hope they're in the top four of both. 574 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: Which tells you they should start this gread final as 575 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: distinct favorites to him. 576 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: So Broncos because their defense is not in the top four, 577 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: you are officially tonight Wednesday night writing them off. 578 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: I can't do that because I always tipped the Broncos 579 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: and Broncos man I went to the first of a 580 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: game down. I can't write them off, but I would 581 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 4: say they did a miracle. So what are you going 582 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: for Brisbane? 583 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 3: Privately? Who do you think is going to win? 584 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: Whatever? 585 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: Because in the green room he goes, I think Melbourne win. 586 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: Publicly it comes away with see that's where the part 587 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: time Queensland comes we go. 588 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: I had a fear Gordy, so it was one of 589 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: the greatest things I've been out on Sunday but as all. 590 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: The officials and the and the they carried on the 591 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: way they and they deserved it. 592 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: It was that sort of It was the moment I feared, 593 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: is this their Grand Final? They did it two weeks 594 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: ahead before against Camber. Melbourne'srunners burned much easier. Let's be well, 595 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: much less dramatic. Let's say, how do you assess them? 596 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: The way Melbourne walked off the field with their press conference, 597 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: it's still business. They know that it's unfinished. Brisbane to 598 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: celebrate that. I don't think it was over the top. 599 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: I think it was the moment. I think it was 600 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: the atmosphere. Everybody I spoke you said, it's the greatest atmosphere. 601 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: I think they just went along with the fans. I 602 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: think they just went along with the ride. I don't 603 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: think it was over. 604 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: It was a hell of a ride, Gordiant. It's got 605 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: to take something out of them. 606 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: Or it's got to keep them up there. 607 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 7: They did end Penneth Panthers right as well. Right, so 608 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 7: there's every reason to celebrate. I'm glad. I don't think 609 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 7: it's over the top there, like if you can't celebrate 610 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 7: if you. 611 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: Were there, it was totally appropriate. 612 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally appropriate, but at the same time, it's not 613 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the Grand Final yet. 614 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't think you sit there and think, oh, 615 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: they're carrying on too much. 616 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 8: They've just won Grand Final where and I get God's 617 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 8: point one hundred percent all right, Melbourne won't be satisfied 618 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 8: unless they lift that trophy. 619 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 6: Right. 620 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 8: Brisbane have had a good year regardless of the outcome 621 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 8: come Sunday night. But yeah, I don't think they're sitting 622 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 8: there thinking these scenes are over the top. 623 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Five times really, you've come back from fourteen or more 624 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: down to win, which is donishing. I was going to say, 625 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: if Melbourne's up fourteen now they're in trouble against Penrith, 626 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: they can do it. 627 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: You can't keep At some point you're going to run 628 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 4: out of luck. It's see, you're going to run out 629 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 4: of time, You're going to run out. 630 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 8: Of or they run out of his key players. They 631 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 8: can turn a game. They've still got them all in there. 632 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 8: So I don't think fourteen I don't think fourteen points 633 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 8: scares them, regardless of who they're playing against. 634 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Gordy, can you please not listen to my radio call 635 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: and shove it back in my face, because you are 636 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: right I said it fourteen dead was over. 637 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: Times or something, that Penriths were ahead by twelve or more. 638 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: That's right and never been run down. 639 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Now you brought up Stefano toy command who and his 640 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: comments is really the only event of the so far. 641 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Craig Bellamy finally addressed those comments. Have a look at 642 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: his response. 643 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 11: I really haven't seen to Yeah, I know he made 644 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 11: a statement or whenever he did in but you don't 645 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 11: see too much about rby Lake, so I said, I'm 646 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 11: not quite sure what he said. I was the one 647 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 11: that had to tell Craig, which it was an interesting 648 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 11: reaction when I first told Craig might have been a lighthearted, 649 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 11: but as I said, I didn't say that. We haven't 650 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 11: known too much about it this week. 651 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 7: Hey god God, but he might not have seen it. 652 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: But Frank Fernici has given him up. No, he said 653 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: he went and told him, but Craig said that he 654 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: hadn't seen So. 655 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: This was Stefan. 656 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: He's backed it up because he made comments that didn't 657 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: get much traction last week. But he made comments about 658 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: for new or Blake basically said leave. 659 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: Him to me for the first time. I'm loving it. 660 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: Like when respolts last week right when they were talking, 661 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: because it's he versus Cleary, right, and he goes against 662 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: well what about us? But what about me? That's cool, right? 663 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: He didn't get shot down for it, and that helped 664 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: build the game with Stefano. Like a lot of the 665 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: players become cardboard cutouts because when they say something, go 666 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: oh like, I just saw it there made he said it. 667 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: I love the way he said it. He put himself 668 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: on show. He doesn't put his teammates. He's the one 669 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: that's got to run into pain and Paddy Carrigan and 670 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: those boys, and I'm sure he'll do it. 671 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: They were those comments I know weren't directed to paint Half, 672 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: do you know, because I know Gordy. I've done some digging. 673 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: They definitely shovel just making the phone Gordy, and they 674 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: definitely weren't directed to paint ass. 675 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: But his battle with backtracking now no. 676 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: Names, no, I'm not going to name names, but it 677 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: wasn't paint us. But it's but his battle with Pa 678 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: hanging there, battle with you guess Half is going to 679 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: be crucial, and that's pretty obvious, right because he has 680 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: been phenomenal since origin. 681 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: Is the why he's talking about We're a number that's 682 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: less than two D. 683 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Corner sticking around. 684 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: We got more talking about Israel, men and a few 685 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: other things. 686 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: And tomorrow night following NROLL three sixty, Yes, NRL three 687 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: sixty is back again and breaks his back as well. 688 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: But after three sixty it's Finals Footy with Maddie John's 689 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: and special guest Shawan Johnson