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Speaker 1: See with.

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Speaker 2: He's the most topical man in Australia at the moment,

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Speaker 2: the man who well, he doesn't like to listen to

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Speaker 2: authority too much. He's on SAS Australia. It's back Monday

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Speaker 2: seven thirty on Channel seven. It's for AS today.

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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, thank you for having me. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: those dul tones of an SAS fighter.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's exactly right. Can I preface this is

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Speaker 4: a show, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: It is a show.

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Speaker 4: It's curated, it's edited, it's finally pieced together.

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Speaker 5: Please let's not take it too seriously. It's just entertainment.

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Speaker 3: So that disclaimer at the start. Are you suggesting that

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Speaker 3: you've been portrayed incorrectly?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't care how I'm portrayed, to tell you

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Speaker 5: the truth.

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Speaker 4: If it's negative positive, that's that's for the viewer to,

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Speaker 4: you know, to make that judgment.

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Speaker 1: In the end.

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Speaker 4: It's a show, you know, and it's and it's and

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Speaker 4: I'm having fun watching it too, man, I'm loving I'm

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Speaker 4: running watching It's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Man, your every casting agent's dream because for as you're

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Speaker 2: going on this show. I think the people what people

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Speaker 2: are getting angry about is that you are your own man,

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Speaker 2: and you can tell over the years you've had success

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Speaker 2: in the acting industry as well, but you.

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Speaker 1: Have worked on your own.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are getting upset because you're in

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Speaker 2: a team environment.

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Speaker 1: Now let's do this together and work as a team.

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Speaker 2: And your starting lines like, well, this isn't my first barbecue.

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Speaker 1: You guys, just settle down. Stop yelling at me. I'll

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Speaker 1: do it my way, you do it.

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Speaker 4: The thing is you're going to understand that what you

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Speaker 4: don't see and the ways kind of taken out of context.

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Speaker 5: For instance, when I said I hope, so it brings

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Speaker 5: me out in front of the entire lineup.

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Speaker 4: So when we were walking back and I said to

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Speaker 4: you you'd like to be charmed, what did you say?

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Speaker 4: I said, I hope, sir. And I thought that was

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Speaker 4: just a quiet little conversation between you must yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: you're going to put me on show.

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Speaker 5: And that was that was the kind of calibration of

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Speaker 5: this show.

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Speaker 3: But it was it testing for you when you had

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Speaker 3: the feedback from the rest of the team, when there

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Speaker 3: was that moment where they said, who which number do

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Speaker 3: you not want on your team? Yeah, very simple question.

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Speaker 4: Pick one person you wouldn't have in your team.

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Speaker 5: Fast eleven stuff, number eleven, number eleven.

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Speaker 3: Would you take that personally?

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Speaker 4: I didn't take it personally because the commandos were there.

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Speaker 4: It's a thinking soldier man. They're trying to divide and

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Speaker 4: they're trying to make a show as well. If I

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Speaker 4: wasn't there, then there's no affliction, there's no conflict. So

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Speaker 4: when they asked you a question, you kind of just

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Speaker 4: naturally reply. I didn't want them to be punished. I

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Speaker 4: wanted to be punished. I went in the show. I

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Speaker 4: wanted to be punished. Yeah, I want to manifest that.

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Speaker 3: When we look at the frustration from some of the

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Speaker 3: other competitors. I mean Eric's come out on air and

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Speaker 3: said that you know, he was sick of you talking

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Speaker 3: right after the show. So this is not to add

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Speaker 3: drama on the show.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be starting a recreational basketball team

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Speaker 2: with carass.

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Speaker 5: Like passible to me for as you can't pass it.

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Speaker 3: And then Shannon Pondon's come out. He's gone hard, hasn't

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Speaker 3: he right?

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Speaker 5: I think he has to. Yeah, I think he's called

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Speaker 5: me some I don't know what is.

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Speaker 1: He caught you a sociopath?

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Speaker 5: But then he He.

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Speaker 2: Also said, at no stage did he ever assume a

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Speaker 2: spons responsibility for his actions. At no stage did he

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Speaker 2: say sorry, now you've responded and said, who the if

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Speaker 2: is he to tell me how to act?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there to comply or hide or be a sheep.

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Speaker 2: I went there to be me, and I didn't fit

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Speaker 2: You called him a redneck, You took a crack at

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Speaker 2: his Maori tattoos.

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Speaker 1: This is getting a bit full on for us.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, is he Shannon. He's a good bloke, like

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Speaker 3: I think he.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know who the guy is.

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Speaker 4: But he he made some passing comments and and you know,

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Speaker 4: like vile and and and also he didn't even realize

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Speaker 4: who I was. And he was making comments that didn't

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Speaker 3: Mild comments towards you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he was he was calling that he labeled.

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Speaker 5: He called me like.

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Speaker 4: I lacked integrity, and I'm like, dude, I am connecting

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Speaker 4: to the commandos.

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Speaker 5: They asked me a question. It's a stitch up. This

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Speaker 5: is a show. Everyone calmed down.

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Speaker 4: The command the commandos, stop feeding into this in this manipulation.

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Speaker 1: Here, am I the only one awake.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna I'm going crazy. You're the only one talking

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Speaker 3: like it's just a show. Everybody else there is under

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Speaker 3: the command.

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Speaker 4: And part of the who's being Who's actually they never

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Speaker 4: show me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know what the thing is. Fear does

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Speaker 5: a weird thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, Shannon and I got put together in some

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Speaker 4: of these beast things, and I put him the shame.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say the truth because you know,

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Speaker 4: this guy's been doing this thing for so long and

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Speaker 4: I just put up put that boy to work, and

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Speaker 3: So you're half I think.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying when fear, when fear gets to here,

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Speaker 4: it starts manifesting in your behavior, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Starts manifesting in the way you start approaching people.

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Speaker 1: The way you want to. I want him out.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Of course they thought smallest guy on the team. You know,

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Speaker 4: he'll come on the show two days, then he'll quit.

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Speaker 2: He'll be sweet that can I also say, as well,

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Speaker 2: this must and this is your makeup though that you're

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Speaker 2: obviously it's all about me against the world. That's what

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Speaker 2: they were asking you to do a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of the team thing and not the faras thing. We

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Speaker 2: were four days in FITSI I love Jackson. Jackson is

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Speaker 2: a gentle as good what a great free mind.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know they've done a great job with

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Speaker 5: I had a great time with Jackson. I became friends

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Speaker 4: Candace for instance, Mitch was great, Ali was great, Sabrina

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Speaker 4: is also with We were connected. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: just you know, like for me, I was doing I

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Speaker 4: was in the exercises and when it was teamwork, you know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes you make mistakes and they talked to you like these.

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Speaker 5: Commit it's a it's a it's a show.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what they're like for us.

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Speaker 2: That's what the essays soldiers to do, those tists, that's

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Speaker 2: what they put you through. You answer back, or you

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Speaker 2: look the wrong way, you're doing extra work on top

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a front. These guys are

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Speaker 1: fit me.

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Speaker 3: Should we organize I don't know, a boxing match between

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Speaker 3: you and Shannon or something like that. Would that be

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Speaker 3: the best way to sort it out? I think this

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Speaker 3: could ben to him though, if you spoke.

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't spoken to him yet.

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Speaker 3: Should we get him on the show? Doing to my call?

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Speaker 5: I haven't spoken to him.

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Speaker 3: Would you be able to chat to him? Now?

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Speaker 1: You can shuttle the dust. This might be an old number,

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Speaker 1: but I'll give it there.

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Speaker 3: You're able to go, you know, see if we can

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Speaker 3: find him. You might be around at your place now, No,

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Speaker 3: I do you want to leave a message? That's all right?

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Speaker 1: So for us?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to make it up with Shannon? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: You know, I just we'll see. We'll see, we'll see

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Speaker 4: if he reaches out. We'll see how this thing. We'll

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Speaker 4: see how this show eventuates in the journey, you know,

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Speaker 4: because a lot more things happen.

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Speaker 5: Man, You know, people change.

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Speaker 3: Mate, I do I take my hat off and take

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Speaker 3: off to you. I take my hat off to Shannon,

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Speaker 3: anybody that signs up to the show.

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Speaker 5: Because it was brutal.

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Speaker 1: It was brutal.

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Speaker 5: You weren't expecting you get that, you know that cold

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Speaker 5: man face.

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Speaker 4: You know, people got bruised, people got stitches as their

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Speaker 4: memory and then.

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Speaker 5: It was that.

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Speaker 4: It was people's you know, facade was pushed back really quickly.

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Speaker 2: Tire you you but see now I think you will,

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Speaker 2: bet you, they will try to cast.

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Speaker 1: You and survive.

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Speaker 5: Love Ireland, Bachelor and Paradise.

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Speaker 1: You're up for everything, now for it. That's it.

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Speaker 5: That's the reality.

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 5: Man, this thing is a circus.

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Speaker 4: People are writing I don't know what they're riding on

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Speaker 4: my walls on my Instagram that they take this far.

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Speaker 4: Please if it gets you emotional, stop watching TV, pick

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Speaker 4: up a book, go for a walk, go to the park,

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Speaker 4: call your dad that you haven't seen for ten years.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, like, please keep it.

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Speaker 2: Take care of yourselves. We didn't think you were going

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Speaker 2: to come in this week. We appreciate your time, says

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Speaker 2: Australia Back Monday seven thirty on Channel seven.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, sir, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Cheers guys, Thanks buddy, so