1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Summer series sponsored by Vanter, 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: specialists in compliance led growth. A'm Michael Thompson and good morning, 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Sean Aylmer, Good morning, Michael, and good morning Adam Lang. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Good morning Michael. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Now in just five minutes, we are each going to 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: put forward a big story about markets today from the 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: last year, and at the end we're going to decide 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: who wins, because we are very competitive and we must 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: have a winner at all times. Adam, would you like 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: to go first? 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Or Michael in Shawan? For me? It's the rise of 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: the ASEX two hundred and the S and P five 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: hundred share markets are an expression of investor belief in 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: future profits of publicly listed companies, and these measures shows 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: that belief has been at record levels and closes the 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: year with a great deal of strength. The Standard and 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Pause five hundred index tracks the share price performance of 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: the largest listed companies on the Stock Exchange of the 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: United States, and that is the biggest economy in the world. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: The S and P five hundred began twenty twenty four 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: worth over US four three trillion and closes more than 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: twenty five percent higher. Meanwhile, the Australian Stock Exchange our 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: S and p ASX two hundred accounts for over eighty 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: percent of the total market capitalization and it has been 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: a similar but different story. The total index has flirted 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: with nine percent growth this year and occasionally crept into 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: double digits. We don't have the Magnificent seven, but we 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: do have our favorites. Our banks lead the way with 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: five in the top ten Commonwealth National Australia, West, pank 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: A and z ED mcquarie, with then BHP, CSL, West Farmers, 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Goodman and FOURTESQ rounding out a powerful rise in twenty 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: twenty four. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, Adam, that is spectacular growth overall. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: Is the word flirted? Yeah, I know that. 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I made it quite kind of erotic, that kind of thing. Yes, Look, 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: you're a big picture guy. I want to narrow the 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: view here just to one particular asset. I mean, this 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: is extraordinary because twenty twenty four for me, was the 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: year that coin boomed. Now consider that at the start 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: of the year January one, I probably didn't need to 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: point out when the year started, but at the start 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of the year bitcoin was sitting around forty three thousand 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: US dollars a unit, Now at the end of twenty 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: twenty four, it has hit record after record after record 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: after record. It passed one hundred thousand US dollar mark 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: in early December, continued well past that point. A few 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: reasons for that. Obviously earlier in the year, right, it 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: got a big hit of credibility when the SEC in 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the US proved spot bitcoin ets from major institutions like 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: black Rock and Fidelity. Then a bunch of other things 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: happened throughout the year. Do you like how I went 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: to summarize everything, Just a bunch of stuff happened. But 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: then you're fast forward towards November. Right, Bitcoin took off 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: when Donald Trump won because he'd come across in his 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: comments as pro crypto. Then he announced a crypto advocate 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: as his nominee to run the SEC, and bitcoin and 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: other cryptos well kind of just went through the roof. 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Now it's just extraordinary how long they'll stay there. Kind 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: of as anyone's guest, but to go from kind of 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: forty three thousand US dollars to more than one hundred 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: thousand US dollars in less than a year, with a 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: huge amount of that happening just in the week since 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the US election, that is huge. That is spectacular growth. 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: Sure is, Michael. I agree my market story for the 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: year the Magnificent seven, maybe the end of the Magnificent seven. 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: The single biggest question facing global markets in twenty twenty 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: five is whether the mag seven textocks can keep running. 68 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: We're talking Apple up thirty five percent this year, now 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: worth close to four trillion dollars. Good last couple of months, 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: but really slowed in that July taber period. Microsoft it's 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: up twenty two percent, being a bit choppy this year. 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: And Video Wow up one hundred and seventy four percent 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: best of all, but it has totally stalled since July. 74 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: Amazon up fifty five percent, great last couple of months 75 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: of the year, Alphabet up forty two two percent. It's 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: done well recently, but really came off the boil in 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: the second half of the year. Met has risen steadily 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: all year, about eighty percent. Tesla Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, It's 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: back at record levels on the back of that Trump election. 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: The Magnificent seven account for the value of about one 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 3: third of the S and P five hundred fifty percent 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: of the indexes. Twenty two percent gain is on the 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: back of the Magnificent seven. Incredible story, but can they 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: keep running? 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Great question, I say, three good stories. Look, I would 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: like to nominate myself as the winner, but I think 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: it might be Adam. It is hard to go past that. 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Michael. 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, I mean you were justifiably the 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: winner in terms of the rise of the market. 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: Well, I just like to say that mag seven was 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: the reason the markets raised, But I just it's fair. 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: I'll go without them. 94 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: Okay, but please, I don't somebody think of the bitcoins. 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the win. 96 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: Well, okay, we will declare you the winner. Adam, it 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: shall not last. 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: And Michael, excellent third. 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't get ron was third Daylight or was Michael? 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Michael, Well, this is nonsense. We are off to a 101 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: terrible start here. Thank you very much, Sean, Thanks Michael, 102 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: and thank you Adam. 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Michael. 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Make sure you hit follow on the podcast. 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