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Speaker 1: Brooks Barnette is osvej SA CEO. Jordan, good morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Jordan, appreciate your time, Good luck

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you need to invest more to make

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Speaker 1: It really does feel like COVID, doesn't it, That businesses

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, for me, if I look at Europe

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Jonathan thoughts with you, what would you like people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just you know, like like I would

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Speaker 1: You have no idea where this has come from, this virus.

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Speaker 3: No, it's this is a seed born virus. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, good luck. I mean, what else

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: For coming on. You two. Jonathan Gallaghan, who is operations

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Speaker 1: all that comes to one point two which is you know,

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Speaker 1: you think of a business carrying that debt for no result,

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Speaker 1: We're just going to shut you down and all the

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