Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debates.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debate.
Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Marquez, joined tonight by Sky News contributors Joe
Speaker 3: Hildebrand and Louise Roberts. Now we start tonight with our
Speaker 3: delusional prime minister who reckons he'd be better placed than
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton to forge a productive relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Dalim's dreaming.
Speaker 1: Quality.
Speaker 2: Anthony Albernizi argues.
Speaker 3: It's his close ties with Indo Pacific leaders which makes
Speaker 3: him valuable to the incoming US president, telling the Australian
Speaker 3: newspaper Peter Dutton has not developed relationships with other people.
Speaker 2: Around our region and around the world.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess Albo's hoping Trump won't have noticed comments
Speaker 3: he made during Trump's first presidency.
Speaker 4: A lines with the US, we're going to deal with him.
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean that you're uncritical about it. He
Speaker 4: scares acad of me, and I think it's some concern
Speaker 4: that the leader of the free world thinks that you
Speaker 4: can conduct politics through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.
Speaker 3: So between Anthony Albanisi and Ambassador to the US Kevin Rudd,
Speaker 3: Luise I frankly don't know how Albo.
Speaker 2: Will be able to brown nose his way out.
Speaker 5: Of this one, but I'm sure he'll try.
Speaker 6: But I mean, this sort of mazing waiting routine he's
Speaker 6: trying to strike up is absolutely laughable because Trump's whole
Speaker 6: brand is you know, personal rapport, and he's also got
Speaker 6: a very long memory, particularly for insults, as you said,
Speaker 6: so he'll remember that, he remember Rudd having a crack
Speaker 6: at him as well. And I just don't think he
Speaker 6: sees Albanesi as a world statesman in the same way
Speaker 6: he views himself as well as somebody who can carry
Speaker 6: on to in the next election.
Speaker 5: Even beyond that as well, no one sees him.
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 1: Wants as a world statesman.
Speaker 7: I know, Albo John Trump that is Look, I actually
Speaker 7: don't think there's a problem with this as well. Donald Trump,
Speaker 7: for all the people go on about how you know
Speaker 7: he's you know, he'll destroy everyone. In his past, Donald
Speaker 7: Trump has proven himself time and time again to be
Speaker 7: incredibly magnanimous. He's been there's virtually, you know, no one
Speaker 7: on the planet who hasn't been critical of him. I mean,
Speaker 7: he's been critical of himself. He's had that many different positions.
Speaker 1: He was a Democrat and he was a Republican.
Speaker 7: And you know his running mate jd Vance famously was
Speaker 7: extremely critical of him and then said, well, I've changed
Speaker 7: my mind. Joe Scarborough the Morning Joe People on MSNBC.
Speaker 7: Who you know, like if you look up nauseating East
Speaker 7: Coast elites in the Oxford Dictionary, it has a picture
Speaker 7: of those two. But they were invited to Mary Lago
Speaker 7: and Jen. Trump says, look, come and show you know.
Speaker 7: This is what you got wrong, this is what you're
Speaker 7: missing out on. And the day, to their credit, went
Speaker 7: to find out how they had completely miss the American
Speaker 7: people misread the mood of the nation of the election.
Speaker 7: So Trump is shown that I don't think he knows
Speaker 7: or particularly cares who almost anyone outside his immediate inner
Speaker 7: circle is. So I don't I think somebody actually need
Speaker 7: to sit down and explain who.
Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd was aware of, who he said.
Speaker 7: He was, he was, well, he was told who Kevin
Speaker 7: was told who he said he was told who Kevin
Speaker 7: Rudd was. And as often happens, this is why he's
Speaker 7: so much fun. As often happens, when Trump gets told
Speaker 7: something said oh yeah, yeah, that he's nasty, he's nasty.
Speaker 7: She told him that's that's right, so.
Speaker 2: He can't hold brudgers. But you're right, there have been
Speaker 2: cent not if people.
Speaker 1: But not if people say they have to do enough.
Speaker 2: They have to do enough sucking up the ring. They
Speaker 2: have kissed the ring. And I don't know.
Speaker 5: Will be exactly what value does album is you hold
Speaker 5: for him?
Speaker 6: And he's sort of it's not you know, he's not
Speaker 6: hosting something called a networking event. He's got to have
Speaker 6: legitimate value to Trump to be part of that in
Speaker 6: a circle.
Speaker 7: I think if Albo can give Trump, and this is
Speaker 7: what he's saying, if Albo can give Trump access and
Speaker 7: insight to what he needs to do to operate in
Speaker 7: the specific region in order to counter the influence of China,
Speaker 7: which is Trump's number one priority.
Speaker 1: Despite what he says about.
Speaker 7: Canada and Mexico, China is the only credible sort of
Speaker 7: rival to or threat to the US, and China is
Speaker 7: building its own empire, a soft power empire, which you
Speaker 7: know in China is pretty hard power in the a
Speaker 7: specific regions then, and that is why we've got a
Speaker 7: football team in Papua New Guinea now to stop China
Speaker 7: from buying it off. With hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 7: That's why we've entered deals with the Solomon Islands to
Speaker 7: stop China parking its warships there. So I think I
Speaker 7: think Albo can offer that kind of insight and then
Speaker 7: again with anything to Trump and say, look, this is
Speaker 7: what you need to know, this is how you can
Speaker 7: go and do all this.
Speaker 1: These are the players. This is what you're saying, John, how.
Speaker 2: To be a handsome boy.
Speaker 3: Then hands together, that's right.
Speaker 2: Look. Meantime, Anthony Alberizi appears to.
Speaker 3: Be trying on Trump's tough guy persona precize in an
Speaker 3: interview with the Daily Telegraph, the PM has ripped into
Speaker 3: both the Greens and the Coalition, blaming both for housing.
Speaker 2: And migration issues.
Speaker 3: Now he's blamed the Coalition for manipulating the migration system,
Speaker 3: saying that COVID visas was still in place when Labor
Speaker 3: came into office, and he's accused the Greens of opposing
Speaker 3: every one of his government's housing measures. Joe, do you
Speaker 3: think that this tough language works well for Albo?
Speaker 7: Shows he's scene the light and so he's doing the
Speaker 7: classic sort of you know, the classic sort of reverse
Speaker 7: for the Row Chambeau where he's kicking the coalition in
Speaker 7: the nuts over being too soft on migration and so that,
Speaker 7: of course, and also to to sort of you can
Speaker 7: little and lock down about COVID. Oh these guys, they
Speaker 7: still had COVID visas.
Speaker 1: When we came to power.
Speaker 2: Labor States during Absolutely, look.
Speaker 7: I was incredibly critical of the Labour States response during
Speaker 7: COVID and absolutely ferociously so. And they were insane, and
Speaker 7: I was believed or not. I went crooked at Albow
Speaker 7: for for reintroducing COVID tests for Chinese visitors coming here,
Speaker 7: which was done as a kind of diplomatic way to
Speaker 7: put pressure on.
Speaker 1: Where that latest outbreak was.
Speaker 7: But of course I was doing live talkback radio at
Speaker 7: the time, and I had all these people saying, oh
Speaker 7: my god, COVID's out there again, COVID out there again.
Speaker 1: We need to shut the borders, shut the borders.
Speaker 7: I'm like, holy crap, this is just repeating the exact
Speaker 7: same mistakes that we are now still trying to recover from.
Speaker 7: But having said all that, you know, that's done and dusted,
Speaker 7: that's the past. He is now trying to outflank the
Speaker 7: Coalition on the right, and he's also smashing the Greens,
Speaker 7: these humorous little trots who were the most anti Semitic, repulsive,
Speaker 7: anti economic, horrible, you know, literal, unreconstructed leftist forced this
Speaker 7: toxic sort of scurge in Australian politics, and he has
Speaker 7: been smashing them up.
Speaker 1: Say what you like about the guy. I have no
Speaker 1: argument there.
Speaker 2: About the Greens day.
Speaker 3: Yes, he might talk tough, Joe, and no argument from
Speaker 3: me about your characterization of the Greens. But Luis Albanezi
Speaker 3: has refused to say whether he would put it, refuse
Speaker 3: to rule out preference deals with the Greens, So all
Speaker 3: of that means very little at the end of the day.
Speaker 6: Well, I think most people know if you vote labor
Speaker 6: sometimes you vote may end up including the Greens as well.
Speaker 5: So but I don't know. I agree with what you're saying, Joe.
Speaker 6: But at the same time I think that Albanezi, by
Speaker 6: blaming the Greens and the Coalition was doing a bit
Speaker 6: of a dog gate my homework routine, like not really
Speaker 6: taking responsibility of something which he could have been more
Speaker 6: effective about.
Speaker 7: How's yeah, But the thing is he can't conjure up
Speaker 7: he can't conjure up a majority.
Speaker 1: In the Senate.
Speaker 7: You know, he can't pretend that he's got a majority
Speaker 7: and just pass things through. He does need to rely
Speaker 7: on either coalition or the Greens. And yes, of course
Speaker 7: every government in the world is going to blame you know,
Speaker 7: the crossbench or the opposition. And you know you could say, well,
Speaker 7: why didn't he win more seats in the first place,
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying it is just so good refreshing
Speaker 7: to see labor acting tough on things like migration, acting
Speaker 7: not like crazy chicken littles on COVID, and just toweling
Speaker 7: up the Green.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was so easy, I feel, to act like
Speaker 3: not like chicken little now on COVID when we're like,
Speaker 3: well over the pandemic.
Speaker 7: Therese are lessons that a lot of us, and you
Speaker 7: were among them, were saying at the time, people, Oh,
Speaker 7: we did.
Speaker 1: As I told you, because she told you. You were
Speaker 1: told you did know.
Speaker 7: You were just cowardly fools who refused to believe it
Speaker 7: and thought you're all about the science. But it turns out,
Speaker 7: according to every review, since you were complete and utter
Speaker 7: COVID denial us, well, all of the story.
Speaker 2: I think we can call them that roll of the story.
Speaker 2: They need to listen to us more often, starting right now. Look,
Speaker 2: a day after saying he wouldn't rule out using military
Speaker 2: force to.
Speaker 3: Take over Greenland and the Panama Canal, Trump has said
Speaker 3: that he worked will out using economic force to take
Speaker 3: over Canada.
Speaker 1: Are you also considering a military force to.
Speaker 8: An exit acquired no economic force? Because Canada and the
Speaker 8: United States? That would really be something?
Speaker 3: And now Trump supporters are pushing him to seize control
Speaker 3: of another country closer to home ours. This tweet from
Speaker 3: conservative US journalist Chadwick Moore was retweeted thousands of times.
Speaker 3: It said I don't want to give Trump any more ideas,
Speaker 3: but these guys don't have guns anymore. And the responses
Speaker 3: included enthusiasm for the idea from some Australians to remind
Speaker 3: us that we are the country that produced raygun. Look, Joe,
Speaker 3: I would take Trump over ALBANUZI any day.
Speaker 2: I know you won't. Why not?
Speaker 3: But I have to say I do hate this idea
Speaker 3: that we are somehow poorer in Australia because of our
Speaker 3: gun laws.
Speaker 2: I mean, the US is obviously a very.
Speaker 3: Different place to US with its right to bear arms,
Speaker 3: but I think most Australians would agree the fact we
Speaker 3: have farmer shootings here.
Speaker 2: It makes us a better.
Speaker 1: Place, not when America invades us and makes us it's
Speaker 1: the military.
Speaker 2: Still has them.
Speaker 3: They need to remember.
Speaker 7: When New Zealand basically got rid of all its military
Speaker 7: and everyone in Australia just went right doing the rounds
Speaker 7: and you know it had some poor little guy sitting
Speaker 7: in a diggy, you know, over a little water pistol.
Speaker 7: This is the New Zealand coastcard. I just love this
Speaker 7: all so much. I love the fact that you know,
Speaker 7: Donald Trump and the Graby showed there. So do you
Speaker 7: seriously be you know, we're seriously saying we're going to
Speaker 7: take over Canada and make it our fifty first state
Speaker 7: U seeing military force and trucks.
Speaker 1: No, not military force, economic force, all right, serious, fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's just hilarious.
Speaker 7: And that is actually the same way I feel about
Speaker 7: our brothers and sisters in New Zealand, because I reckon
Speaker 7: Australia and New Zealand should become the one country of
Speaker 7: Australasia and we could all share in the bounties of
Speaker 7: you know, whatever it is New Zealand has to offer.
Speaker 7: And our stuff we've got sheep, that's right, we eat
Speaker 7: in Australia, but you know that's fine.
Speaker 3: Don't go earlier times love eight pm snaijo, not the
Speaker 3: usual ten o'clock for those kinds of sheep jokes. Louise,
Speaker 3: should we become the fifty third US state?
Speaker 5: And some people look, it's a nice idea, but it
Speaker 5: was clearly a joke.
Speaker 6: But what I thought was interesting is the take up
Speaker 6: it got a lot of people are very enthusiastic about
Speaker 6: more American involvement with Australia, and I look on more
Speaker 6: for strengthening ties with Trump obviously as you are too so,
Speaker 6: but yeah, actually becoming fifty third stay probably not well.
Speaker 1: Make the Greenland then are yes?
Speaker 2: And Panama Canada?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought he was just one of the water
Speaker 7: in Panamas a whole lot.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it.
Speaker 3: Who knows, who honestly knows? Make Australia cronic?
Speaker 5: Can I say? Look?
Speaker 3: Staying on Trump and the Mexican president has responded to
Speaker 3: the US leader's intention to rename the Gulf of Mexico
Speaker 3: the Gulf of America.
Speaker 2: Mammos America a Mexican.
Speaker 3: She wants to call it Mexican America. In case you
Speaker 3: couldn't read it then subtitles underneath the captions and watching
Speaker 3: that President Trump's just plonked a seventy five percent tariff
Speaker 3: on Mexican imports. I'm told Louise, I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think anyone can do Trump like Trump can do Trump.
Speaker 2: And when they tried, it is a little bit sad.
Speaker 6: Look, I think she wanted this to be her micro
Speaker 6: drop moment. So she was saying to Trump, if you
Speaker 6: think you're going to take over and rewrite history, forget it.
Speaker 6: Here I am with the map which proves that we're separate,
Speaker 6: engesting you can't take us own, and had a bit
Speaker 6: of a joke herself in renaming America.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, Trump does Trump. I look, those tariffs are
Speaker 5: going to be absolutely crippling.
Speaker 7: That's the thing is that Trump does Trump, and he
Speaker 7: does all the all the sort of big song and
Speaker 7: dance routine, all the bright shining lights, look over here,
Speaker 7: and then he just bang something over there. And we
Speaker 7: saw this with all a lot of the announcement of
Speaker 7: his cabinet, and you know, he throws in one guy
Speaker 7: who he knows is never going to get over the line.
Speaker 7: Everyone's hyperventilating about him. The new Attorney General I think
Speaker 7: it was. And in the meantime he gets just everything
Speaker 7: else he wants all through. And so again people four
Speaker 7: for this kind of what they think, people on the
Speaker 7: left for what they.
Speaker 1: Think is this kind of buffoonery.
Speaker 7: But while he's talking about all this stuff, he is
Speaker 7: just smacking these tariffs on it. And what is you know,
Speaker 7: what is going to happen here? They will say, so
Speaker 7: say all right, all right, all right, just cut the
Speaker 7: tariffs to fifty percent or cut in twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, And Canada is all right, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll give you.
Speaker 7: We'll do thirty percent tariffs, but please don't invade us
Speaker 7: and make us kick you first.
Speaker 2: It works, doesn't it. It's all about the art of.
Speaker 3: The deal, and he has really shown that to be
Speaker 3: his forte. He's a wellness, he's a billionaire, exactly, He's.
Speaker 6: One of the world's greatest negotiators. He's proven that time
Speaker 6: master time. But the fact that he's back in the
Speaker 6: White House, that's a testament to that, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 7: But again, like if he went to Canada or Mexico
Speaker 7: and said, all right, twenty five percent tariffs, I would say.
Speaker 1: Are you if he's kidding me?
Speaker 7: You create twenty five No, absolutely, no way, blah blah
Speaker 7: blah blah. And he just goes right in, drops this
Speaker 7: giant bomb, and I can guarantee you'll have you'll have
Speaker 7: Mexico saying, you know what, call it the Gulf of America.
Speaker 1: Just leave us with twenty five percent, please exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know what, it is already having an impact
Speaker 3: because Mexico has been working hard to break up migrant
Speaker 3: caravans that are heading to the US border already ahead
Speaker 3: of Trump's inauguration, in order to avoid that threatened.
Speaker 2: Twenty five percent tariff on goods.
Speaker 3: Now, the Mexican government has been dispersing migrants across the
Speaker 3: country to keep them as far away from the US
Speaker 3: border as possible, including dropping them off at the once
Speaker 3: famous Moorist destination of Acapocook Who Comes the Sun. Look,
Speaker 3: it's not so much an Elvis film set anymore.
Speaker 2: It's more of an organized crime spot and one of the.
Speaker 3: Highest homicide rates in the world there. But authorities are
Speaker 3: dropping off bus loads of migrants there under this new
Speaker 3: policy of dispersion and exhaustion.
Speaker 8: Joe.
Speaker 2: You know, as I.
Speaker 3: Said, Trump hasn't even got into office already, and this
Speaker 3: strong talk is already working.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And again it's this sort of madman diplomacy.
Speaker 7: It's like, holy god, you know, this guy's crazy. We
Speaker 7: don't know what he's going to do. We better all
Speaker 7: behave I keep saying. It's like when you've been you know,
Speaker 7: fighting with your brother and sister all day and making
Speaker 7: absolute you know, wrecking the house, and then you know,
Speaker 7: your dad's coming home is really angry and something.
Speaker 1: We're better, you know, we don't know what he's going
Speaker 1: to do. We better for our best behavior.
Speaker 2: And half lately exactly right.
Speaker 1: Your mum's coming home, which is really angry. I'm the pushover.
Speaker 7: But again, it's like and it's just like what the
Speaker 7: southern governors and mayors did when they you know, what
Speaker 7: Ronda Sanders did in Florida when he said, right, okay,
Speaker 7: you're not going to you're not going to shut our borders,
Speaker 7: you're not going to protect our borders. We're going to
Speaker 7: fly all these guys to Martha's vineyard see if you're
Speaker 7: like it there. And it is amazing how quickly the
Speaker 7: nature of the debate changes when you have these sort
Speaker 7: of you know, again, these affluent East Coast elite progressive
Speaker 7: suddenly have this migrant crisis right on their own doorsteps.
Speaker 1: Suddenly it's intolerable.
Speaker 7: Suddenly, no, no, no, this is not my dog, This
Speaker 7: is not what meant at all.
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is outrageous behavior.
Speaker 3: This is Remember when they tried to take some of
Speaker 3: them to Saint Martha's beenyard. It was a completely I
Speaker 3: shouldn't say safe, but it was Martha's been in and
Speaker 3: they just wouldn't have bar But would.
Speaker 6: They absolutely that's a very exclusive, you know, weekend of
Speaker 6: bolthole straight out of New York. So the fact that,
Speaker 6: as Joe says, championing their calls and raising funds and
Speaker 6: having all these beautiful lavish dinners to you know, put
Speaker 6: the kids through school, et cetera, when it was.
Speaker 5: On their doorsteps, they were mortified. They did not they
Speaker 5: would not leave the city.
Speaker 1: You put them in Akapolca or cankun. I reckon, it's
Speaker 1: got to be be a bit worried right now. And
Speaker 1: were you next guy?
Speaker 7: And suddenly you will find something can get done. Suddenly
Speaker 7: this is intractable problem that we all have to work
Speaker 7: live with if you live in ol Paso, but not
Speaker 7: anywhere else.
Speaker 2: And next the wall. It's coming, folks.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, Trump has blamed California Governor Gavin Newsom for
Speaker 3: the widespread havoc caused by the California wildfires. Five people
Speaker 3: are dead and more than eleven hundred buildings have been
Speaker 3: destroyed by out of control wildfires burning around Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Trump posted to his platform truth social governor newscom news cumcum,
Speaker 3: I gotta say, I got to keep this clean, Governor
Speaker 3: new scum, this spelling intended. Refused to sign the water
Speaker 3: restoration Declaration that would have allowed millions of gallons of
Speaker 3: water to flow daily into many parts of California, including
Speaker 3: the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.
Speaker 3: He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt.
Speaker 2: He is to blame for this.
Speaker 9: In fact, Trump warned about this sacrifice in California water
Speaker 9: for this fish, the smelt, back when he did the
Speaker 9: Joe Rogan podcast weeks before the election.
Speaker 8: In order to protect atony little fish, the water up
Speaker 8: north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions
Speaker 8: of gallons of water gets poured.
Speaker 3: Now, a Newsome spokesperson has heaped back accusing Trump of politicized.
Speaker 2: As the fires. But I mean, doesn't look left already
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, all this talk about climate change being responsible for.
Speaker 7: It, I thought the time to talk about it was now. No,
Speaker 7: this is the time to talk about didn't the fire
Speaker 7: hydrants actually run out of water?
Speaker 5: They did?
Speaker 1: They did? Yes, how does that happen? I don't.
Speaker 7: California's already run out of power multiple times as constant brownouts.
Speaker 7: But again, if a fire hydrant runs out of water,
Speaker 7: that seems to me a pretty like that is as
Speaker 7: big a failure of government service as you can possibly get.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know much about firefighting, but I
Speaker 7: do know that the one thing a firefight hydrant is.
Speaker 1: Meant to have in it is water.
Speaker 7: And I would not have believed Trump's crazy story about
Speaker 7: the fish were it not, of course, that the exact
Speaker 7: same thing is being foisted.
Speaker 1: It was tried to be foisted on the Albanesi government
Speaker 1: here with the Morgan.
Speaker 7: Skate in Beautiful Straw and in Macquarie Harbor in Tasmania,
Speaker 7: where they were actually the Left were actually the Greens
Speaker 7: and the environmental were pushing for the entire salmon farming
Speaker 7: industry to be shut down to save some weird little
Speaker 7: stingray thing that lives at the bottom of Macquarie Harbor
Speaker 7: and for some reason refuses to travel, kind of like Melbournians.
Speaker 7: But again, so again, you wouldn't you think, no, Trump's
Speaker 7: just tripping. There's no way this could actually be serious.
Speaker 7: And yet you see the same thing being played out here,
Speaker 7: and Albo stood up to them and said absolutely, no way.
Speaker 7: But the looting left has the same crazy the environmental
Speaker 7: looting left has its same crazy ideas here that they're
Speaker 7: trying to foist on workers in Tasmail.
Speaker 3: No, in Australia, that's happening on the hard fringe left.
Speaker 3: In California, it's happening among the governing party, the Democrats.
Speaker 2: So you've got this incredibly.
Speaker 3: Popular Californian governor who is probably not long well, probably
Speaker 3: not now. Today has been a real and the last
Speaker 3: couple of days have been a real turning point. But
Speaker 3: this scene, it's like serious mismanager, mismanagement because what Trump
Speaker 3: was saying is that that was a huge amount of
Speaker 3: water that would have been available for them to flow
Speaker 3: from Canada, and decisions that Gavin Newsom made to protect
Speaker 3: a fish in order to and to stop a dam
Speaker 3: ended up leading to this.
Speaker 2: Situation that's right right now.
Speaker 6: Trump had organized for well basically presidential order to have
Speaker 6: this water come down from northern California, which should have
Speaker 6: helped loads of farmers, let alone, you know, really helped
Speaker 6: the area that is now on fire around La and
Speaker 6: Santa Monica and right out to Pacific Palisades as well.
Speaker 6: So and yet you see that the governor like almost
Speaker 6: he was boasting Hi out of the fact that he'd
Speaker 6: sort of saved this fish and close his dam down.
Speaker 6: And to anyone who's got a rudimentary knowledge of fire fighting,
Speaker 6: you need water. But the Santa Ana winds always come
Speaker 6: in around the winter there, and they've been very hot,
Speaker 6: and that's why the you know, and it's been very dry,
Speaker 6: and that's why there's this catastrophic situation in California.
Speaker 5: But he should know that.
Speaker 7: But also but just again White and like there's the
Speaker 7: recurring theme here good on the rule of three.
Speaker 1: You know, suddenly when.
Speaker 7: You're asylum seekers in Akapolcos, people are starting to notice it.
Speaker 7: Suddenly when they're being bust to Martha's Vinus where the
Speaker 7: rich love to play and eat and greet and meat suddenly,
Speaker 7: oh now we have to do something, and you can
Speaker 7: guarantee that all these Hollywood celebrities who would have been
Speaker 7: the biggest environmental champions, you know, the first they'll blame
Speaker 7: it all on climate change.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's a fact there.
Speaker 7: But again, let's just see how much they care about
Speaker 7: this fish now that they're beautiful, multimillion dollar mansions are
Speaker 7: burn into the ground and.
Speaker 3: Sports Smelt is going to get much of a look
Speaker 3: in with the Hollywood elite anymore. I'll tell you something
Speaker 3: else that La County, which is obviously the district where
Speaker 3: these horrific buys are taking place, they've been mocked for
Speaker 3: focusing on diversity, equity and inclusion rather than you know,
Speaker 3: so saving lives.
Speaker 10: Our focus is to teach our new employees, for them
Speaker 10: to understand cultural competency, identify implicit and unconscious bias, and
Speaker 10: be aware of the importance of us having a diverse
Speaker 10: and inclusive workforce.
Speaker 3: You know, Luis, voters here in Australia hate this. I
Speaker 3: think they would hate it in America as well. Watching
Speaker 3: these homes burn to the ground. I can't imagine the
Speaker 3: amount of outrage it will cause people to think the
Speaker 3: focus in these firefighting authorities has been having more diverse
Speaker 3: firefighters in the force.
Speaker 6: Well, that's right, and this program was introduced three years ago,
Speaker 6: so just sort of calculated how much money and time
Speaker 6: and efforts been put into this diversity program. Whereas we
Speaker 6: talked about lack of water in the fire hydrants, also
Speaker 6: there hasn't been enough fire is on standby to actually
Speaker 6: attend the fires themselves.
Speaker 5: And if you think about being a firefighter per se,
Speaker 5: naturally it's an inclusive job.
Speaker 6: Everyone works together to put out fires and their only
Speaker 6: goal is to put out fires and save lives. Probably
Speaker 6: save lives first, I would say, I would hope, yes,
Speaker 6: absolutely all try and save a building and so forth.
Speaker 6: But the fact that that any hesitation in a situation
Speaker 6: like that because they're worried about maps not being appropriate
Speaker 6: to another fiery or isn't it not diverse enough in
Speaker 6: the unit, was just insanity. We should not be putting
Speaker 6: that ahead of people's lives.
Speaker 3: I think we've seen so far too often recently how
Speaker 3: DEI has completely damaged institutions.
Speaker 1: At best, it's an utter waste of time and a distraction.
Speaker 1: And again I just this sort of stuff.
Speaker 7: It is destroying not just these kind of institutions destroying
Speaker 7: the left that is promoting these things. Again, DEI destroyed
Speaker 7: the Democrats. It literally just destroyed the entire Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that Kamala Harris was a DEI pick?
Speaker 1: I don't have to, Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: Joe Biden actually said.
Speaker 1: And this is I mean, this is why it is
Speaker 1: so completely and utterly cooked.
Speaker 7: Right, But Joe Biden said that he would appoint a
Speaker 7: black woman as his vice president. Why would you even
Speaker 7: why would you even say that, like as though that
Speaker 7: would automatically make it I mean, I can't think there
Speaker 7: are anything more racist than sexist and say, oh, that
Speaker 7: will automatically make her more qualified or do you just
Speaker 7: mean that will automatically bring in all the female and
Speaker 7: black votes because they all think the same.
Speaker 2: Insult for the person. Because the female cat was.
Speaker 7: Supportive of that, that that was the criteria he had
Speaker 7: for picking his VP. Then when it actually came time
Speaker 7: for her to have a crack at the top job,
Speaker 7: he stood in her way and refused to go.
Speaker 11: So an old white man, stop this black female vice.
Speaker 7: President I know, actually coming anywhere near his job in
Speaker 7: remotely a timely fashion which would be disastrous anyway. And
Speaker 7: then of course he hangs on so long that the
Speaker 7: Democratic Party, despite being called the Democratic Party, cannot have
Speaker 7: a democratic process and is stuck with this deipick, who
Speaker 7: it turns out, is utterly incompetent and cannot string a
Speaker 7: sentence together. And there would have been countless women and
Speaker 7: countless black people who have been far better candids, or
Speaker 7: you could have just don't know, selected them on merit
Speaker 7: or had them.
Speaker 1: Actually fight for the role. Who would have thought crazy.
Speaker 1: So again it has literally destroyed it.
Speaker 7: But also there talking about this stuff and teaching critical
Speaker 7: race theory in schools and everything, we are seeing among
Speaker 7: particularly among you know, working class middle American communities that
Speaker 7: are actually doing it tough and going backwards. Every time
Speaker 7: the left starts talking about this crap, they go, you're
Speaker 7: not listening to me, you don't understand what I'm going through.
Speaker 1: We're voting for the other guy. And you see it
Speaker 1: time and time and time again.
Speaker 7: We see it in Australia as well, where working class
Speaker 7: people are turning increasingly to parties like One Nation where
Speaker 7: they feel like at least Paul Enhanson speaks the language
Speaker 7: they can understand, or is talking about issues that they
Speaker 7: are worried about.
Speaker 1: And as soon as you know, again the Morgians skate.
Speaker 7: You've got green urban groups, You've got you know, groups
Speaker 7: like you know, the Australians doing poles of mainland Australians
Speaker 7: about whether this fish needs to be saved at the
Speaker 7: cost of hundreds, if not thousands of working class jobs.
Speaker 12: People are opposing. This is the Australian Workers Union. These
Speaker 12: salmon farming, salmon industry jobs, they are all blue collar jobs.
Speaker 12: They are all working people. We're not talking about the rich,
Speaker 12: you know, salmon capitalists smoking their cigars lit up by
Speaker 12: one hundred dollars bills.
Speaker 7: This is the Left turning on the working class again
Speaker 7: and people absolutely hate it.
Speaker 1: And again it is tearing apart the Americans as well.
Speaker 7: And when you see the firefighters doing that, and then
Speaker 7: you see those houses being burnt to the ground, it's
Speaker 7: not you know, it's not identity bias.
Speaker 1: So they don't have to identify bias. They have to
Speaker 1: identify fires. The phone call might have gotten a bit scratchy.
Speaker 3: But Louise, how many black firefighters were on the ground
Speaker 3: to help rescue people in the last couple of days.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm sure people are really concerned.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it is.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's right, and Hammy Latina and how many
Speaker 6: you know Asians except you know, it's not down to that.
Speaker 6: And also, I really feel this DEI trainee real insult
Speaker 6: to people who choose to be a firefighter. I mean,
Speaker 6: amongst the most bravest people in the world. You think
Speaker 6: about nine to eleven, how and all we were of
Speaker 6: them after that, And the fact they're being force fed
Speaker 6: this diversity training, I think is an absolute insult to
Speaker 6: them because they're there to save lives, they're not there
Speaker 6: to beat woke.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, outgoing US President Joe Biden made an awkward gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah can you believe it? Yeah, I know, I'm That.
Speaker 3: Happened during a briefing with officials about the California wildfires.
Speaker 3: Here it is, while, was that the time to talk
Speaker 3: about your new Maybe announcements are beautiful, Joe. No one's
Speaker 3: saying that it's not a beautiful thing, but seriously, read
Speaker 3: the room.
Speaker 2: Now is not the time, Joe.
Speaker 7: I know we've lost a lot of lives in these fires.
Speaker 7: But on the plus side of the ledger, I've just
Speaker 7: made another alignement.
Speaker 1: Does that help it's just off the reservation.
Speaker 6: Its pod to There's everything about his presidence so totally
Speaker 6: self obsessed, you know, the fact that he thinks it's
Speaker 6: a good thing, addressing people whose houses are burnt to
Speaker 6: the ground.
Speaker 3: And there was this awkward laughter from the crowd. I
Speaker 3: don't think they knew quite how to respond.
Speaker 5: It was a bit why is he saying this?
Speaker 6: Sorry, you've got a great grandchild and your great grandson,
Speaker 6: but please the.
Speaker 2: Same Well, he wasn't even sure if it was a
Speaker 2: great granddaughter, a great.
Speaker 1: You're kind of not sure. Is it a joke? Is
Speaker 1: he actually with us? Does he remember where he is?
Speaker 2: I don't even think.
Speaker 1: But also, like, how.
Speaker 7: Surprising is that every time you read that Joe Biden
Speaker 7: is still the president, if you actually forget, like Trump
Speaker 7: is there and again Trump is there just dominating the agenda,
Speaker 7: running the world already, You've got Ukraine, Israel ran also
Speaker 7: of bowing to the will of this car now Mexico
Speaker 7: and Canada, And you think, oh, that's right, Joe Biden.
Speaker 9: I know, so true.
Speaker 5: It's wicked at Bernie, isn't it.
Speaker 13: It is?
Speaker 3: But everyone was complaining when he seemed to be on
Speaker 3: perpetual holidays once he lost the election, and I just
Speaker 3: think at this point people are like.
Speaker 2: Go back on holidays. Direct sit this one out until
Speaker 2: the inauguration.
Speaker 1: Wasn't the near of la on holiday or he was?
Speaker 2: That was another thing.
Speaker 3: And she was asked she was away and in Ghana
Speaker 3: all places exactly, and she's she was another person another
Speaker 3: example of an elite I guess in California who's just
Speaker 3: completely mismanaged the situation.
Speaker 2: And she was shown up today quite well.
Speaker 7: Actually maybe brings me to be the fires and said
Speaker 7: Biden over to do whatever, that would.
Speaker 3: Be a welcome relief to a lot of Americans. I think,
Speaker 3: look still on fires. A pizza delivery man who rescued
Speaker 3: four children from a burning house fire in Indiana has
Speaker 3: responded to calls from Donald Trump Junior for him to
Speaker 3: receive a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Nick Bostick's daring rescue
Speaker 3: was captured on bodycam footage two years ago, but was
Speaker 3: reposted by the president Elect's son earlier this week, saying
Speaker 3: Bostick deserved the medal more than Democrat donor George Soros
Speaker 3: and the other clowns awarded the medal by Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Now Elon Musk also replied to that with a simple year,
Speaker 3: and the man himself, Nick Bostick, was pretty.
Speaker 2: Happy with that.
Speaker 13: You get recognition from the men the man, you know
Speaker 13: what I mean, President Trump's son.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Now, Louise, I do think that people like this are
Speaker 3: much more deserving candidates than Hillary Clinchon and George Sorris
Speaker 3: and all the other people that.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden recently gave this Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3: I want to see a return to real life heroes
Speaker 3: being recognized what they.
Speaker 6: Do, absolutely not who they've called up to or who
Speaker 6: they've paid off or whatever. But this Nick Bostic character
Speaker 6: is just amazing. I mean, when he went back in
Speaker 6: to get the six year old girl from the birding house,
Speaker 6: actually went out the window on his back to allow
Speaker 6: her to fall into his stomach, so it wasn't such
Speaker 6: a brutal for for her.
Speaker 5: It's incredible. And I also love the way that Donald
Speaker 5: Trump Junior used the word clowns. Oh, that was terrific.
Speaker 6: That was a really good assessment of the elitist people
Speaker 6: who normally get these types of awards, and the general
Speaker 6: public are like why they got the award when I
Speaker 6: could name one hundred people who were far more deserving
Speaker 6: and worthy in the community.
Speaker 7: Well, I reckon like the same with aos and every
Speaker 7: honor here. I think Keating was absolutely right. So you
Speaker 7: don't get there, you don't get any honors, any words
Speaker 7: for doing your job. It's only for people in the
Speaker 7: community who are doing going above and beyond, who go
Speaker 7: out and work their job, work like a dog, work
Speaker 7: harder than most of us, and then still find time
Speaker 7: to volunteer or still find time to help out the
Speaker 7: local community. And they are the ones who should get
Speaker 7: all the gongs as far as I'm concerned, although if
Speaker 7: I am offered one, I will take from on their behalf.
Speaker 2: But you go, you go and above it beyond, Sancho.
Speaker 1: You know, I do a lot of community work at
Speaker 1: the local bar. You the cry on boosting a lot
Speaker 1: of lonely women out there.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I'm sure your wife will enjoy hearing that one.
Speaker 3: Louise, I think you know there's a real appetite for
Speaker 3: these types of stories. Now that that pizza delivery man,
Speaker 3: I should say ex pizza delivery matter, because what happened
Speaker 3: he revealed as well, was that after that daring rescue,
Speaker 3: he actually had to go to hospital for a few days.
Speaker 2: He lost his job because he didn't turn up to
Speaker 2: work as the pizza delivery guy. He was a hero.
Speaker 3: So he's an ex pizza delivery man and he's just
Speaker 3: been living a normal life since that event two years ago.
Speaker 2: But happened to be retweeted by the president.
Speaker 6: Alec Sun finally got the recognition he desired, finally got that. Sadly,
Speaker 6: let's hope he's in a career now, he's respected and
Speaker 6: you know, and cherished.
Speaker 5: H He's an amazing man, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2: Let's hope.
Speaker 3: So I think things are shifting under Trump's presidency to
Speaker 3: be now coming up more net zero lunacy that could
Speaker 3: see your overseas flights go up a few hundred dollars
Speaker 3: a year. Stay tuned, welcome back, well, Aviation experts have
Speaker 3: worn a new net zero flight tax in the UK
Speaker 3: could add hundreds of dollars a year to the cost
Speaker 3: of flights, including for Australians traveling overseas. The new charge,
Speaker 3: introduced on January one, requires airlines fill their planes with
Speaker 3: at least two two percent green fuel and move away
Speaker 3: from using traditional jet fuel louise. Yet again, these governments
Speaker 3: seem to care more about this warm, fuzzy feeling of
Speaker 3: appurring to do the right thing for the environment, whereas
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what amount of impact it would even.
Speaker 2: Have at the expense of its people's budgets.
Speaker 6: That's right, So why go after the ordinary traveler, I
Speaker 6: mean the traveler in particular, Why not if you're going
Speaker 6: to look for a tax, maybe put a tax on
Speaker 6: the fuel that goes into private jets.
Speaker 5: Surely that'd be I know, because we are profitable as well.
Speaker 5: But I agree there's no proven benefit to the environment
Speaker 5: of doing this.
Speaker 6: And also apparently the green fuel is three times more
Speaker 6: expensive than the regular jet fuel. You know, we're all
Speaker 6: suddenly jet fuel experts, I guess.
Speaker 5: But what's the point?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, for Australians wanted to go to London
Speaker 6: and another tax another thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: And you would go quite often.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's right in the UK.
Speaker 2: Original would it make you think twice about solutely?
Speaker 6: I mean, the tickets are already high anyway, and accommodation
Speaker 6: the Aussie dollars fluctuates as it were.
Speaker 5: But we don't. We don't need this because what's the benefit.
Speaker 5: What's the point? There is none?
Speaker 7: I just love the fact that this sustainable fuel is
Speaker 7: made from substances including used cooking oil and plant based products. Now,
Speaker 7: I remember that when E ten came out and every
Speaker 7: single car expert said, whatever you do, do not put this.
Speaker 1: It will be terrible if you motive blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if destroyed or whatever whatever it seems
Speaker 1: to be faith for.
Speaker 7: But quote, do you really want to be rolling the
Speaker 7: dice on a giant floating piece of metal ten thousand
Speaker 7: meters in the sky with five hundred people on board?
Speaker 1: So you know, what are you running on their cat?
Speaker 1: Just a bit of used cooking oil.
Speaker 2: I even get that amount of used cooking oil. How
Speaker 2: did they collect it?
Speaker 3: They just turn up to biople's houses after that, rearrested.
Speaker 1: The choppings in the car bar. Yeah, that was gonna
Speaker 1: be nice.
Speaker 7: But again, I mean they just I mean, how actually
Speaker 7: efficient is it? It's more expensive, and then is it
Speaker 7: actually working or you're just sort of diluting the fuel
Speaker 7: that does work with this more expensive stuff to make
Speaker 7: you feel better.
Speaker 5: Traveler, just leave them alone?
Speaker 3: Well, I just keep thinking when you have the biggest
Speaker 3: polluters in the world like China, who don't have to
Speaker 3: make any of these sorts of concessions.
Speaker 2: Why are we all penalizing ourselves And it's going to
Speaker 2: make oil the rivers fleet, that's where it needs to happen.
Speaker 1: You're right, show Melcom Australia.
Speaker 2: Less than to quite a miracle story this week.
Speaker 3: A twenty three year old tiger who was lost for
Speaker 3: thirteen days in rugged New South Wales bushland. He's survived
Speaker 3: on foraged berries, creek water and two musli bars he
Speaker 3: found in a hut. I meanwhile, Missy, but hardly gets
Speaker 3: me through to lunchtime, so I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 3: Experts say medical student Harding Nazari's access to water was
Speaker 3: crucial to his survival and the Coosiosco Wilderness Luis, this
Speaker 3: is a remarkable survival story. Mister Nasari had been missing
Speaker 3: since Boxing Day and I think many of us feared
Speaker 3: the worst.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, we all thought the worst, very much so.
Speaker 6: And I love the way that he when he was rescued,
Speaker 6: he made a big point of thanking his rescuers in
Speaker 6: everyone who'd worked hard to obviously getting back on to
Speaker 6: safe land as well. But I think we need to
Speaker 6: bring him into schools to teach resilience. I think he's
Speaker 6: an incredible story of how he's just kept his mind saying,
Speaker 6: looked around for food and come out the other end
Speaker 6: not sort of bitter and twisted or hysterical.
Speaker 5: He's come out very calm. Is a tremendous young man.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that calmness and his attitude probably was a
Speaker 3: big part of his survival story. And the experts said
Speaker 3: the fact that he got close to water would.
Speaker 2: Have been a huge thing. Apparently you can survive three
Speaker 2: weeks with food. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Water water water is the killer. So you've got to
Speaker 1: get fresh water otherwise you're dead in like three days.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it was.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, it's phenomenal. It is just the most phenomenal.
Speaker 7: But it's just so weird, like of all the things
Speaker 7: that were you know, you think about bear grills eating
Speaker 7: you know, like you know, deer testicles or bird eating
Speaker 7: spiders or whatever it is. And this guy managed to
Speaker 7: find a hut with some music bars, like I just
Speaker 7: came across this lobster thermidor.
Speaker 1: I had to make it last two weeks.
Speaker 2: It was very lucky, so lucky, and that he didn't
Speaker 2: get poison berries. I don't even know if we have
Speaker 2: them here. Clearly I wouldn't survive for a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Rumby snowy mans probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, amazing story. We're all very happy that it had
Speaker 3: a happy ending. Not such a happy story. A deep
Speaker 3: fake scandal has rocked a Southwest Sydney high school after
Speaker 3: a year twelve student used AI to create pornographic images
Speaker 3: of his female classmates and post them online. The New
Speaker 3: Southwell's Education Minister Preuka called the allegations disgusting and said
Speaker 3: the matter had been referred to police and the EA
Speaker 3: Safety Commissioner Luis. Deep fakes had been a huge concern recently.
Speaker 3: Mainly they've been in relation to big celebrities like Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift had her own scandal, but now even schoolgirls have
Speaker 3: to be concerned about this and their parents ny fids.
Speaker 5: In laundry school in city. This is what's happening.
Speaker 6: And all credit to the school in question because they
Speaker 6: were all over it and they emailed the parents the
Speaker 6: name of the boy as well, which I thought normally
Speaker 6: i'd think, well, he's underage.
Speaker 5: So protective ideas.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see that.
Speaker 5: Yes, but I think the strategy.
Speaker 6: Behind it is the girls and the parents can actually
Speaker 6: do some minding on their social media to see where
Speaker 6: he's intercepted them, or where he's trying to blackmail them
Speaker 6: or whatever he's trying to do. But as the mother
Speaker 6: of a sixteen year old girl, I saw this story
Speaker 6: and it made my blood run coal because we're constantly
Speaker 6: telling Taylor, you know, don't take any photos, be very
Speaker 6: careful who you're following on social media, be very careful
Speaker 6: who's following you. Nothing is real, and we've really trying
Speaker 6: to educate her about deep figs and stuff because this
Speaker 6: is exactly what we're worried about as parents, and it
Speaker 6: could happen to a girl, who.
Speaker 5: Could happen to a boy as well.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 5: They're all fair game, as Tina.
Speaker 3: It's true, And so much of the awareness and the
Speaker 3: internet literacy recently Joe has been about don't send nude
Speaker 3: pictures of.
Speaker 2: Yourself, don't send this, But we're talking about innocent, innocent, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got that one too.
Speaker 3: Innocent innocent classroom photos, innocent group photos that this boy
Speaker 3: has allegedly taken and used to create this terrifying like that.
Speaker 1: There are issues just absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 7: There are issues at every school, not just high schools,
Speaker 7: with primary schools as well, which is terrifying enough, and
Speaker 7: just the access to it. I actually though, found found
Speaker 7: this almost strangely. The silver lining I think is that
Speaker 7: I think AI will become so prolific and be used
Speaker 7: so much, and I think there are a huge you know,
Speaker 7: in a sense, the genie is probably already out of
Speaker 7: the bottle and there's not much we can do about it.
Speaker 7: We'll try to regulate it, but we'll always be playing
Speaker 7: catch up, and of course will only the regulation will
Speaker 7: only be as good as the regulators are more tech
Speaker 7: savvy than the pirates and the cowboys and the karatas
Speaker 7: and whoever else wants to make money out of it,
Speaker 7: which has got a great track record. But what it
Speaker 7: does mean is that for all those horrible cases.
Speaker 1: Where women in particular girls together have.
Speaker 7: Been exploited and have had things circulated, it almost just
Speaker 7: blurs the line so much where you know, if anything happens,
Speaker 7: you know, if anyone's got any nude photos of me
Speaker 7: that are going it's a deep bake, well it's not
Speaker 7: even me, and people would have no way really of.
Speaker 3: Knowing, well, that's the excuse has already been used by politicians.
Speaker 3: We recently had one, I think it was in South
Speaker 3: Australia who said that a drug scam norls involving.
Speaker 2: Fake that.
Speaker 11: You opposition South Australia must be stopped at all costs.
Speaker 11: No matter what we have to do to bring this
Speaker 11: man down, we need all hands on deck. He's got
Speaker 11: his hands on the nuclear curds. The love of God,
Speaker 11: you could cancel them by an your festival at a time.
Speaker 2: And the way that they're going to do that is
Speaker 2: with deep fake.
Speaker 7: And that's why I reckon this stuff will actually be No,
Speaker 7: it's obviously it's not good, but it almost kind of says,
Speaker 7: you know what, Actually it's all become many.
Speaker 1: It's such a sewer.
Speaker 7: It's so easily manipulable that suddenly, you know, to everyone
Speaker 7: out there who's got anything embarrassing anywhere on the internet,
Speaker 7: just say it's a dead fake, don't you know? No,
Speaker 7: I didn't say that stuff that my boss pulled out
Speaker 7: at my job interview, Like, No, that was the other
Speaker 7: that was a deep fake.
Speaker 3: Joe Hill the brand right, it is a selver ligning.
Speaker 3: I suppose if you need to reach for one. But
Speaker 3: for teenage girls, there's not going to be absolutely different.
Speaker 5: Life changing, absolutely life changing.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean they're already you know, sort of
Speaker 6: microcosm of judgment and friendship, group explosions and all sorts
Speaker 6: of terrible things that are going on. To have this
Speaker 6: on top of that, as you say, totally innocent, legit
Speaker 6: school photos, social media pictures from school events and stuff
Speaker 6: being corrupted in this way.
Speaker 5: It's just appalling and it won't be the last time
Speaker 5: we see it.
Speaker 7: Actually deep fake a shot of the guy who did
Speaker 7: the deep faking, see how he likes it.
Speaker 1: I know, augmented appendages.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll like that, who knows, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: it would be some form of justice. I suppose a.
Speaker 3: Victorian police sergeant who allegedly performed two Nazi salutes and
Speaker 3: said Hail Hitler in front of colleagues will not be charged,
Speaker 3: despite the offensive gesture.
Speaker 2: Being banned in the state. The sixty five year old
Speaker 2: woman worked training.
Speaker 3: New police recruits as well as executives, and was suspended
Speaker 3: with pay in October, but in a statement, Victoria Police
Speaker 3: announced we have since received advice from opp that based
Speaker 3: on the circumstances there is no reasonable prospect of conviction.
Speaker 3: That's the Office of Public Prosecution. Now when you see
Speaker 3: the story, Luise, it's suddenly a lot easier to understand.
Speaker 3: I feel why there seems to have been so few
Speaker 3: arrests in Victoria in relation to anti semitism, in relation
Speaker 3: to extremism and due hatred. If there is an alleged
Speaker 3: problem within the police force itself, then when we're being
Speaker 3: told that the law, the existing law can't be enforced.
Speaker 6: And their own police officer is breaking it as well,
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know why they have made an
Speaker 6: example of this cop. I'm a big support of the
Speaker 6: police force nationally, but she's clearly about apple and how
Speaker 6: allegedly yeah, alliguli, But how are other people, other police officers,
Speaker 6: rather supposed to enforce the law when they can't get
Speaker 6: their own he illigedly in order as well.
Speaker 3: So I mean it is I hear this time and
Speaker 3: again from Police Joe, not just Victoria police, but here
Speaker 3: in New South Wales when I go to them as
Speaker 3: following up on what seems like an obvious criminal offense
Speaker 3: that's occurred in relation to extremism or anti semitism, and
Speaker 3: I get told the legal advice they've received as there
Speaker 3: isn't enough evidence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so why I have the ban.
Speaker 7: And again this is be why I have a problem
Speaker 7: with bands generally, because if you're just if you're just
Speaker 7: banning all these things without the actual context and without
Speaker 7: things like intent, which is pretty critical to criminal conviction,
Speaker 7: then there's just no it's just simply virtue signaling. And again,
Speaker 7: you know, I think there could be you know, people,
Speaker 7: she might have been doing it as a stupid, misplaced
Speaker 7: joke or to show off or whatever whatever I think
Speaker 7: there and there would be countless hate preachers and other
Speaker 7: figures who would be I think of far more danger,
Speaker 7: far more of a threat to Jewish people and to
Speaker 7: Australians generally, who can practice all their stuff to and
Speaker 7: can plot and prepare and commit these offenses without ever
Speaker 7: having to use this osticker or say hail Hitler or
Speaker 7: whatever it is. And so if you're just looking at
Speaker 7: the empty the gestures.
Speaker 3: We don't know though the circumstances of this case, it
Speaker 3: could have been. I guess you could hypothetically say she
Speaker 3: could have been showing these recruits and executive leaders what
Speaker 3: you cannot do under the law. But I don't think
Speaker 3: that a case or complaint would have been made.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, we we all know.
Speaker 7: You don't know, but people are usually just you know,
Speaker 7: the most sensitive person in any situation is going to
Speaker 7: be the one most likely to complain. But again, you know,
Speaker 7: whether this was an active of actual out and out
Speaker 7: white supremacy or duration.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It used to be in the good
Speaker 1: old days.
Speaker 7: If someone was behaving like a bit of a dictator
Speaker 7: of telling you what to do and you didn't like it.
Speaker 2: That's true. We've got to go to a break.
Speaker 3: But coming up, a transactivist both about using a loophole
Speaker 3: to change his license before the TikTok backfires.
Speaker 5: That's next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, a transgender actor who posted a TikTok boasting about
Speaker 3: using a loophole and Florida law to change genders on
Speaker 3: a driver's license has seen the stunt backfire.
Speaker 13: I just got my gender changed on my driver's license
Speaker 13: in the Free State of Florida. My God, Rhonda Santras
Speaker 13: would be screaming right now if you know about that.
Speaker 13: Here's the loophole. Here's the loophole. Listen up. If you're
Speaker 13: replacing your driver's license and not renewing it, but replacing
Speaker 13: it because you lost it. They have to take all
Speaker 13: of your information from what they consider a primary document.
Speaker 13: A passport is considered a primary document, and you can
Speaker 13: self identify on your passport, Rhonda Santis, you can suck
Speaker 13: my transit.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: After becoming aware of that video, Florida authorities promptly canceled
Speaker 3: the license.
Speaker 2: Lewis, I guess Randa Santas is having the last laugh
Speaker 2: after all.
Speaker 5: He certainly is.
Speaker 6: Then that's a disgraceful display of trying to scam a
Speaker 6: government authority and then being an idiot and boasting about
Speaker 6: it on TikTok.
Speaker 5: I mean, what does the expect really, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do the scam and just shut up about it.
Speaker 7: If you're luck a bank robbing gang with this guy,
Speaker 7: I know, please don't just go and tell the police
Speaker 7: that we robbed the bank and how to do it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: So many young criminals are doing this now and they're
Speaker 3: realizing it's leading them straight into.
Speaker 2: The arms of police. Look, that's all we have time
Speaker 2: for tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you for watching. I'll be back tomorrow night with
Speaker 3: a late debate up next. Liberals in Power Part two,