1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Oh good a boys and girls, Craig anthey hearpertivity and 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: cook the you Project. It's tips back on deck in 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: official capacity as a co host TIV high. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: Harps look at usco It only took us twenty five 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: minutes to get you sorted with your IT. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Issues as is pretty well. I've been very good for 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: a long time. But I don't even want to bore everybody. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: But I couldn't hear you. I mean, how after two 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: thousand and one hundred and something episodes, am I still 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: so fucking inept? I blame you and Melissa. I'm not 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: sure why. I just do not want to accept response. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: It couldn't possibly be me. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: Blestness, I reckon learned helplessness. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no doubt I have. Nobody has lower 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: expectations of me than me. No worry about that. Like 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: when peple go you're pretty smart, I'm like sure, aunt, No, 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I just spend half a day with me here we 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're actually a fucking idiot. How do 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: you get through life? Well, these people that are effectively 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: bumper rails that I just bump into and they kind 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: of keep me. It's so funny, Like how fucking broad. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Think about it, how broad is intelligence? And like, you 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: go to one room, you're smart, another room, you're fucking more. 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: On another room you kind of average. But it's and I 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: get which is very bad. I should admit it, but 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: it's just true. I get frustrated and I'm like, how 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: is this doing this? Like why are you doing this 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: to me? World? And the world's like you're doing it's yourself, dumbass. 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, breast the on button, bro, just. 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Somewhere on headphones, a fucking headphones. So I've got a 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: bad I'm in a bad mood everyone. So it's bad. 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: You've tipped me over to hangary time like we were. 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: We were going to be finishing in six minutes. Now 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: are you starting well as well and truly kicked in? 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, let's do a seven minute part. I'm not really 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: angry everyone, I'm just a all right, I'm angry. I'm 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: fucking angry, fucking I'm not. No, I'm not. I wouldn't 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: be talking like this if I was. But I'm mildly 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: frustrated and that will disappear soon as your day gone. Tip. 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh you did a presentation. You killed it? Two hundred 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: and fifty kids. 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a ball. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Let's let's debrief on that. But don't want to talk 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: about one subject that's broadly relevant and I think broadly interesting. 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: But let's give us the two minute synopsis. Because you 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: and I chatted fifteen times about his fucking presentation. I 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: think I knew more about the presentation than you. I 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: just like, I just want to walk you through this. 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: What do you think of this? I'm like, that's brilliant. Yeah, 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: but what about that? Well that's not good? What about so? 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, I'm done on the coaching. No. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: I got another call this morning. I'm like, of course, 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: we need seventeen sessions on the one presentation. You had 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: enough content for fucking two days of workshop. To do 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a one hour workshop with two hundred and fifty kids. 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: Do they like you? Love you? Hate you? What was 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: the response? 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: We had a great time. We had a great time. 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: I got an unexpected round of applause at the end, 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: and I had to stay back and weirdly signed my 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: autograph on about twenty to thirty kids arms. 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: I thought that was very I was like. 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Can you kids please not go and get these tattooed over? 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Because I don't need your parents calling me about why 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: my signature is tattooed into your forearm. 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: That'd be great, though, wouldn't it. That'd be great? I 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: mean illegal, of course, and absolutely yeah, why. 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: Are you writing on my kid? 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And in two years that people will go, 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: who the fuck's that? I don't know. I don't know. 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Why have you got some woman's name on there? 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: No, I don't think unless you're Joe Rogan, and I 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: don't think he asked for it. But I'll tell you 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind guessing, or wouldn't mind finding out how 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: many people have got his name? Thousands and thousands, lots 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: of dudes. I don't know. I don't have you know, 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I've got to be careful what I say. 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure about dudes getting dudes names tattooed 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: on them. If you're in love, if you're a dude 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: in love with a dude, I get it. But if 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: you if you like a bloke's podcast, probably no need 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: to go get him permanently stained on your skin. 84 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Imagine what it's like being such an archo. So I 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: think musicians would get it. Probably more like such a 86 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: have such meaning and people's lives get your face tattooed 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: on their body. There's you would know Tash Sultana. 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: She's huge. 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: They are huge, and my one of my best mates 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: is her uncle. And I like to get like if 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: I see photos where people have had her tattooed on them, 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: I send them to him and it freaks. He's like, 93 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: it's so weird because that's just my niece. 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the thing in this little 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: zoom room that we're in. It's weird, but someone else 96 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's super cool for someone else, it's like, oh, 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: that's an interesting expression of one's you know, humanitry. You know, 98 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: it depends, doesn't. 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: A lot of people with Craig Harpers. 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: No one, nobody. They started at the nose and they 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: got from the ribs around to the left shoulder blade 102 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and they had to fucking stop. They went, I can't 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: actually get his whole head. I can only get his schnozz. 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: And that's that's going to be. Nobody wants, Hey, what's 105 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: the fucking giant nose on your back? And then just 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: a little Harp's head behind it. It's like some kind 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: of you know, when people look down those cameras weird 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: and their nose is thirteen times bigger, you know, when 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: that camera's right in front of their face, and they 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: looked down and it looked like that. Also, not that 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: anyone was ever thinking about it, but have you seen 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: my head get someone's else's head? 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: Don't fucking get come on now, come on. 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: No, I'm not even being self deprecating. Even I don't 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: want my head. Well, I'm glad from an operational point 116 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: of view, I probably wouldn't work so well without a head. 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I tried to pick ugly friends my whole life. 118 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: That didn't work. You know a contrast thing. 119 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: Oh your friends right now listening going hey, oh. 120 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: No, I said it didn't work because they're all better 121 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: looking than me, which is annoying. You know what's really annoying. 122 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: And we'll get onto the topic at hand. Thanks for listening. Uh. 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: My best mate Vin just a man's man. He's like 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: a man's man, like I'm I'm you know, I'm a 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what I am. I'm a pseudo, but 126 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you know men that can just fix shit and build 127 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: shit and lift shit. And it's like I'm strong in 128 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: the gym, but put me anywhere else I'm fuckingshedic, like carrying. 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: We just moved all Mum and dad shit and Vin 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and the Crab and a few other people did it 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: with me. Thank you everyone. He just picks up like 132 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: fucking washing machines over his head like he has no technique. 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't train. But he's just like a fucking gorilla, 134 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, like thick hands, thick wrist, thick elbows like 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: I try to all the time. Him and I are 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the same height. He's one hundred and five kilos. I'm 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: eighty kilos. And he's not fat. You go, oh, I 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: must be big and chubby. No, he's just a fucking 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: gorilla that's lost. He's like a white gorilla in fucking Mafra. 140 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: But he's very handy, you know. So there's that Yeah, 141 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: can you move this fridge. I'll just be over here, 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: thank you, Janita hand no good good? 143 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: The dude that goes to the gym every day of 145 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: his life, just calling shots from the corner of the lounge. 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Of course, of course. Yeah, it's all aesthetic. There's nothing 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: functional about it. That's not totally true, But I do 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: get jealous. So I wanted to talk about let's do 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty minutes on this for our listeners who don't need 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: any more bullshit, right. I was thinking today about so 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I met with our friend Maddie Lansdowne, who's been on 152 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: the show a lot, this morning, and off the back 153 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: of that, I was thinking about we're talking about, you know, 154 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: building a business, and like he's just you know, he's 155 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: a Newish dad, eleven months old, and he was talking 156 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: about like he just glowing, like never been happy. I 157 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: couldn't understand it. All that, which a lot of people say, 158 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: which is beautiful, but then now a level of responsibility 159 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: and awareness and like life gets put through a different lens, 160 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: like everything is different because because of all those things 161 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: that the parents listening are right. But I was thinking, how, 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the mess and the 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: mayhem and the extra financial pressure and you know, the 164 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: sleepless nights and yes, he actually gets up a lot. 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: And I can tell he does because he's kind of 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: just that like that kind of dude. I don't even 167 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: know what that means, but he's very compassionate. He's very 168 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, and we're talking about out of discomfort, how 169 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: really beautiful things happen. And I was thinking about how 170 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: choosing discomfort can lead to comfort because you know, it's like, well, firstly, 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: nobody wants pain or discomfort or suffering. Nobody wants it, 172 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: but there are so many benefits to it. I'm not 173 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: talking about horrible, you know, or guess sometimes it can be, 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: but you know, but that shit that we deal with, 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: it's just hard, or the strategic pain and suffering that 176 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: we choose, or discomfort that we choose, And how you're 177 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: doing something that scares you or is uncomfortable or is 178 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: in the moment totally undesirable, but when you keep going 179 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: back to do that hard thing that's kind of necessary 180 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: to get where you want to go. I'm at A. 181 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: I want to be at D, but to get to D, 182 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I've got to do all this shit that's unfamiliar, unwanted, uncertain, uncomfortable, 183 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: all the uns But then eventually the thing that you 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: used to find hard is not hard anymore. It's easy. 185 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: And not only is it easy, it's now comfortable and 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's even kind of enjoyable. And I was thinking 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: about so many different examples of things that have gone 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: in my life where I first hated it and I 189 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: wasn't good at it. I was bad at it, but 190 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: I knew that, you know, I guess a simple level 191 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: is building a business, you know. And in nineteen ninety 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: I opened my first business with staff and you know, 193 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: structures and processes and clients and rent and landlords and 194 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: you know kind of regulations and rules and counsel and 195 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: government and bills. And in the middle, like literally three 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: months in, I'm like, I should have just stayed in 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: someone else's gym, paid them a couple hundred bucks a week, 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: and just run my business here because my entire kind 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: of bills were two hundred bucks a week. And now 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: I've got this And then eventually, like you figure it 201 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: out a bit, and you start to so the guy 202 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: who's terrible at the leadership figures it out a little bit, 203 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: and the guy who can't doesn't know what a fucking 204 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: ledger is, you know, he figures that out. Doesn't know 205 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: how to have a conversation with an accountant because he 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: doesn't even know the right fucking questions, you know, or 207 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: a lawyer about the the the contract that's signing that 208 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: you're signing or the least that you're signing and all 209 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: of these things. And eventually you learn and you develop 210 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: and the thing that was hard becomes easy. I guess 211 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: the analogy that we've used many times is the hill 212 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and you. The hill stays the same, but you change, 213 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: and then the hard things becomes the easy thing, not 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: because it did anything, but you did everything, and as 215 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: a result, your experience of that thing is now joyful. 216 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: And you were telling me you've just started playing the 217 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: guitar and you're like serious ish about getting good at it, 218 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: and you're telling me about how much your fingers hurt. 219 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, here's the cool thing. They'll hurt like fuck, 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: and then you might even have to not play for 221 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: a day or two because it's almost like they're damaged. 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: Then you'll get a few callouses, then you'll keep playing. 223 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Then in six months you'll have much more skill, much 224 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: more understanding of the music. You'll be much better. It'll 225 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: sound much better, and you'll have fingertips that like fucking steel, 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: so there's no pain anymore. To get there. Where there's 227 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: no pain, there's just every time you pick up your guitar, 228 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: you're not going, fuck, this hurts my fingers. You're not 229 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: thinking about that because you're like, I'm not bad at this, 230 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: like compared to where I was six months ago. Now 231 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: this is not just comfortable, but this is joyful. But 232 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: originally it's painful. You're shit at it. It sounds fucking horrible. 233 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: You're feeling competent, but it's the same, you know, starting 234 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: your podcast, starting my podcast corporate speaking. You know, I 235 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: did five hundred I reckon that were somewhere between complete 236 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: shit and not five hundred, probably one hundred. There was 237 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: somewhere between pretty shit and average. But how do you 238 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: get good will? You get good at by first being 239 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: not good? You get good bye, you know, being the 240 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: white belt, you know, being the worst in the room. Well, 241 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: the bit of that is like the best in the 242 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: room can't become there's not another rung for him or 243 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: her to go up, you know. But for me, I 244 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: can only go up like I can you know, improve 245 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: skill and knowledge and understanding and confidence and technique and 246 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: fitness and adaptability. You know, but you have to go 247 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: You have to choose discomfort first, you know, with everything, 248 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: like think about like the well worn story on this show, 249 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: but doing six hundred podcasts where you're losing money, but 250 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you're losing money but developing skill and knowledge and understanding 251 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and like awareness around what makes an okay or a 252 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: good or a pretty good or a very good. And 253 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: you're doing it yourself. You're getting the time on the 254 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: clock and you're getting you're getting the practice, and you're 255 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: meeting and talking to different people, and you're learning how 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: to head in the direction of mastery. But unless you go, oh, 257 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: this is going to be painful for a while, whether 258 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: that's physical, mental, or emotional or financial pain, there's just 259 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: going to be pain. And I can't afford it. Like, 260 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: nobody that does something for the first time is excellent, 261 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: even if they've got a lot of talent. So I 262 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: just think this idea of like it's a little bit 263 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: popular to pooh pooh comfort because we want to be 264 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: fucking resilient. Mahuck. We all want comfort, but what we 265 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: need are challenges and we need to know. Yeah, sure, 266 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: but you also want that time where oh this is fun, 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: this is comfortable. You know, life is not about constantly 268 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: pushing yourself up that hill but also swings and roundabouts. 269 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: And you know whether or not it's that or even 270 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I think the work of the real work of developing 271 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: the self and understanding the self that is you, the 272 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: self that is me, and realizing I don't know much, 273 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: like I don't know much, or even in conversations where 274 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: you've got to pull your head in and go, oh, 275 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: it's wrong, or I'm in a conversation with somebody and 276 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: I just can't keep up. I don't know what they're 277 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: talking about. I don't understand this language. With this my 278 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: knowledge as a one and their's as a nine. But 279 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: just sitting in that and going cool, Well, maybe I'll 280 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: just listen, and maybe I won't try to keep up. 281 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I won't try to demonstrate any level of competence 282 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: or proficiency because right now where I am, I'm not 283 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and that's uncomfortable because I'm insecure and I've got an 284 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: ego and I want you know, all that shit. So yeah, 285 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: I think the path to comfort, ironically is through discomfort 286 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: most of the time. 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: Like I always talk, I always think about That was 288 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: the first lesson that landed with me when I did 289 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: that first boxing fight. That was I remember standing in 290 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: front of the ring and looking and going, oh, this 291 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: ratio of at that time was twelve weeks of discomfort 292 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: of getting punched in the face of being anxious and 293 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: uncertain and imposter syndrome and bleeding and hurting and walking 294 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: in the gym and knowing that I was, in no 295 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: uncertain terms the test person in that training camp and 296 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: turning up anyway, like all of that was sacrifice and pain. 297 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day it was like 298 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: this four to six minute experience and I kind of went, oh, 299 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: it takes that much sacrifice and pain to get this 300 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: much in inverted Comma's glory. What's what meaning did that 301 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: have to me? And why is it worth it? So 302 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: because if you don't have an understanding of what it 303 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: means to you, there's no way anyone's doing that. And 304 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: sometimes we chase the wrong thing or we don't understand 305 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: the meaning. 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon glory. A better term is outcome. 307 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so, I said. I raised my hand 308 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: to do that because I wanted people. I wanted outside 309 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: external validation. I wanted people to I wanted to show off. 310 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to win. I want to be like, I'll 311 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: do something you won't do. I'm not scared. And then 312 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: I got in the middle of this experience and went, 313 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: I'm not scared of all this. I didn't that I 314 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: didn't think I was scared of but I'm scared of 315 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff that's present in here. And 316 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: then I started going, oh, there's value in this, this 317 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: is changing me. There's a lot to learn here. I 318 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: was a bit confused as to why I wanted to 319 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: keep stepping back into this hard, horrible place. It was 320 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: the first sport that I didn't feel good at that 321 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: I went, I'm going to do this again. Even though 322 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: most of my emotions most of the time were negative 323 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 2: feelings in me they were there were fear and anxiety 324 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: and hurt. 325 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think also a big part of it is 326 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: like when we set out to achieve a goal, it's 327 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: about I'm going to do this, have that, get that, 328 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: achieve that, earn that own that acquire that. Like it's 329 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: always about some external thing. And how many times do 330 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: people get the external thing? Like, they get it, they 331 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: get the trophy, they get the hand raised, they get 332 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: the business, they get the bank balanced, they get the 333 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: shit hot body, they get whatever it is, and none 334 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: of those things are bad achievements. But then how many 335 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: people go, oh, god, I'm good now. No, there's always 336 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: that It's almost like a letdown because I thought when 337 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: I did this, then I would feel like that or 338 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: I would get that, and or this would be the 339 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: emotional and psychological consequence of doing that, achieving that, earning that, 340 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: owning that. It's like, yeah, but you're still going to 341 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: be insecure even with your new jacked body. I know, 342 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've never met anyone who's got in 343 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: great shape and everything else because of that has just 344 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: been tickety boo, like never, there's always And it doesn't 345 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: mean getting in shape is bad. It doesn't mean earn 346 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: hundred grand a year is bad. It's amazing if that's 347 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: a goal of yours, you know. Like, but I think 348 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: the mist or the overlooked part of this is not 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: what am I achieving or raising my hand to or 350 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: how great am I at this or podcasting or how 351 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: much skill have I developed or how proficient am I? 352 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: But it's rather who am I becoming in this? Like 353 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: what is the me that exists in twenty twenty six 354 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: versus you know, twenty sixteen verse two thousand and six. 355 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: And it's like, we think we want something that people 356 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: can see, you know. It's look what I did, and 357 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I think what we need is something that people can't see. 358 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: You know. It's that oh that just that so many 359 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: times I've sat down with people and we talk about 360 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: what they want to do be create change, and we 361 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: dig and we dig and then they go this, and 362 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: then I go, yeah, but beyond that, and they go this. 363 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Then I go, but why, and then they go this. 364 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: And when we get down through the seventy two levels 365 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: of what they think they want, what they want is 366 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: to be calm. What they want is not to be 367 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: anxious anymore. What they want is some self esteem and 368 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: self worth. What they want is love and connection. And 369 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: we think that that thing will be a con that 370 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: external thing will automatically be a byproduct or a conduit 371 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: to that internal thing. You know, when I got in 372 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: really good shape, when I was a kid from being 373 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: really out of shape, I think I worried more about 374 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: my body then, because then I was more insecure and 375 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: more egotistical and more worried about losing it, like oh fuck, 376 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: and I'd get a bit I just can't say what 377 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say, but I'd gain a bit 378 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: of fat, and I'd be a fucking neurotic. You know. 379 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm like so so vapid, so fucking insecure, so all 380 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: about getting my identity through things. And while like, you've 381 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: done some really good things and you and I can, 382 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: well I can look at them objectively because I'm not 383 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: you and I didn't do it, but I can look 384 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: at those things, and I'm super proud of you. You've 385 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: done over a thousand podcasts on your own show, which 386 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: is amazing. You've got kids who want to fucking your 387 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: autograph on their arm, and that's all good, but it's 388 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of bullshit, do you know what I mean? It's 389 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: it's good, it's a good achievement, but I want to 390 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: know in the middle of that who you are and 391 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: who you're becoming and who you are for them. And 392 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: it's the same with me. I think I know that 393 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: I can get on the stage and be amusing and 394 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: funny and reel out some shit that makes me sound 395 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: smart and read the room and all of those practical 396 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: skills that you develop and that talent that you develop, 397 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and it's not that it's disingenuous, but it's like, okay, 398 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: but what's the point? You know? The point is primarily, 399 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: I guess to help people and maybe inspire and coach 400 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: and all of that. But then you know, then so 401 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: many people that I know have been successful from the 402 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: outside looking in, it's all shiny and amazing. It's all 403 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: razzle dazzle. And look at them and look at what 404 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: they're earning, and look at where they look at their 405 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: numbers on body social media, or they're singing on this show, 406 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: or they're and all of those things are good too. 407 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: But when they're away from all of that, so many 408 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: people are broken. Like the shininess the outside looking in 409 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: is amazing, but the inside out experiences dogshit, which is 410 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: why we can not always but we can see people 411 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: who are in inverted commas successful according to our culture. 412 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, they're killing it. They're crushing it, are disproportionately 413 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: sad because you figure out that getting stuff and owning 414 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: stuff and having a brand and having people think this 415 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: or that of you, it doesn't fill that hole, you know, 416 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: and it doesn't. But I think just we've digressed a 417 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: little bit. But I just think that ability to go 418 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: like a really small example. So I've got a hand 419 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: in a thing tonight for one of my papers. It 420 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: gets submitted tomorrow to a journal. And I started at 421 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock just looking at there's paper that my 422 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: academic team, which is you know, Melissa, who's my research 423 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: assistant and Chris and loosing my supervisors, and we've all 424 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: written this paper like I'm I'm the lead researcher allegedly, 425 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: but you know, but so I had to sit down 426 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: with this this paper and that's you know, it's twenty 427 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: nine pages, which doesn't sound much, but to read one 428 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: page of this paper, one page and to really digest it, 429 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: understand it, even though it's my paper. Just to go 430 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: through every letter of every word of every sentence of 431 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: every paragraph to make sure there are no mistakes, it 432 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: took me nearly five hours, five hours. Three pages of 433 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: that is references. So twenty six pages took me nearly 434 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: five hours. And you're just you're sitting in in your 435 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: little space with no distractions, no noise, no I put 436 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: my phone in the other room, I turn it on 437 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: silent because you you know, and it's like this is 438 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: fucking horrible, but it's like, oh, yeah, but this is 439 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: what I need to do, or this is what I 440 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: choose to do, and not everything that I want to 441 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: do that's going to create an outcome will be fun 442 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: or painless or easy. In fact, most of those things 443 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: that are really worthwhile, at least for a period of 444 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: time will suck, and I was feeling sorry for myself. 445 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how I could do 446 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: it quicker. How could I use chat GPT to help here? 447 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: But no, dude, you've got to read every word and 448 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: every day you've got to go. Is that apostrophe necessary? 449 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: Is this space is? Does that make sense? Is it 450 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: like everything? And that's just one little thing. And it's 451 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: that I had a bit of a pity party for myself. 452 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: And then because the first page took an hour. 453 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: Tip I'd stab myself in the eye with. 454 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: A people took an hour. And then I'm like, all right, 455 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: fucking idiot, go and get a cup of tea and regroup. 456 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: And I genuinely is feeling sorry for myself. And so 457 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: now I had to tell everyone in the world because 458 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: I need someone to know see I'm still doing it. 459 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: I still need recognition. Hey, everyone, guess what I did? 460 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: You know? It's like, you know, but it's that I 461 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: don't know that willingness to you know, if you really 462 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: want to develop and learn and grow, if you really 463 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: want to be successful, whatever that means for you. By 464 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: the way, doing all those external things that are great 465 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: is great. It's great, But you are not an outcome. 466 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: You are not a bank balance, you are not a job. 467 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: You are not a brand on you know, Instagram, You're 468 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: none of that. Like that tells us about you, but 469 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't tell us who you are. Just tells us 470 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: what you do, tells us where your energy is, where 471 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: your skills are, and they're all good things. But this 472 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: idea that when I get that, then I'll be different 473 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: and better and good so often just not true. It's 474 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: just not true. And that's that, you know, that reflection 475 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: of like ll that awareness that like, I I'll shut 476 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: up after this. But I don't know how many people 477 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I helped get in shape. Thousands, I don't know anywhere 478 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: near exactly, but you know a lot. And the people 479 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: who were then truly satisfied for a long term, it's 480 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: hardly any because then they're like, oh what about this? 481 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: And you know, they hold up their arm and there's 482 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: like half a millimeter of loose skin or something, or 483 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. No matter where they got, 484 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't enough because it's not about that thing. But 485 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: we think it's about the thing. And then you get 486 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: to the thing. You've done it. You've dicked the box. 487 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: You're there, you are where you wanted to be, but 488 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: you don't have the feeling or the experience or the 489 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: state that you thought you would. So instead of realizing, oh, 490 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't about that, we go no, two more kilos. 491 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 2: We've baked stories up about everything, Like you just when 492 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: you were talking about that, I'm thinking, imagine, so many 493 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: people have the particularly like you have the potential to 494 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: do this PhD, but you need to have the will 495 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: and understand your meaning in order to sit for five 496 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: hours and do that. I probably have the potential to 497 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: do a PhD, but I definitely I don't have. There's 498 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 2: no meaning in it for me, and there's certainly no 499 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: will to do. I listen to you say that, and 500 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way. Like maybe my brain has 501 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: the capacity to do that type of work, but I don't. 502 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Want to sit still and do that. 503 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: That makes me, you know, And we have a problem 504 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: saying it's not a priority or I'm not willing to 505 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: do that work. We make up stories and excuses and 506 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: then we believe them. 507 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also I mean this, truly, I don't think 508 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: doing a PhD compared to many I think being a 509 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: parent is harder than doing a PhD. Like I think 510 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: being a mum dad's good, but let's be honest, mum's 511 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: fucking amazing. Go the dads, single dads, that's hard. But 512 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: like watching parents deal with oh sometimes thirty years, I'm like, fuck, 513 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: that's infinitely harder than doing a PhD. You know. It's 514 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, people are like, oh, that's so wow. Wow, 515 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm like really not wow. And also if you had 516 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: to ask me when I was thirty, I couldn't have 517 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: done it because I just didn't like it didn't mean 518 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: anything to me. I was busy dicking other boxes, doing 519 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: other things, you know. And then someday you maybe maybe 520 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: get to a point where you go, you know, maybe 521 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: I could do this, or what if I did it? 522 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Why would I do it? You know? What are my reasons? 523 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: You know? And you know, so it's there's no right 524 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: or wrong in terms of global choices. Oh everyone should 525 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: do this or everyone should do that. No, you need 526 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: to figure out what it is that you want to do. 527 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: And then, as I did a solo episode the other 528 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: day about digging into the why, like what's your reason? 529 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: It's all well and good to go, yeah, and then 530 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: and then what like, the idea for me to finish 531 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: this and then just do nothing or not do nothing, 532 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: but do no more research or study, I'm like, scares 533 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: me a bit and excites me a bit. So my 534 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: next challenge is to not fucking do any of this 535 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and just try to find purpose and joy in you know, 536 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: other stuff, which I already do. So yeah, it's that 537 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I think, what is the hard thing that I need 538 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: to do that I don't want to do that will 539 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: help produce the existence or the reality or the outcome 540 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: that I really need, not even want? Like, what do 541 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: I actually need not want? Because I want lots of 542 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: stuff that probably wouldn't make my life better, you know. 543 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: And but that kind of. 544 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: Reverse engineer that how do you figure out what you need? 545 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think what most of the things. So let's 546 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: just stick glued all of our listeners who which is 547 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: not all of our listeners, but the vast majority of 548 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: our listeners who are not wanting for anything practically. You know, 549 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: it's not like and I know this is not global, 550 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: but I would think the majority of our listeners have 551 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: a bed, they're relatively safe, they have some way to 552 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: get around, they have food, they have at least one 553 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: or two people who love them, but I totally acknowledge 554 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: that's not everyone. But I think beyond that, like just 555 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: you know Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Have you heard of that? Yeah, 556 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: which is kind of all the shit that we just 557 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: need for survival. But then above that, it's like my 558 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: needs are really emotional and psychological, like really, it's like 559 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: I want to be connected, I want to be loved. 560 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I want to be I want to be of value. 561 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: I want to feel like I have a purpose bigger 562 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: than me. It's like we were talking just before, and 563 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: one of the things that makes me periodically stressed but 564 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: more often happy is when people go out of their 565 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: way to come and see me, to talk to me, 566 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: including flying from other states to sit with me for 567 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: one hour, which I wouldn't recommend to anybody, but people 568 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: want to do it. And just realizing how great that 569 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: people want to sit with me and talk to me 570 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: and they value me in that way and they respect 571 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: me in that way, and like that's a blessing. Like, 572 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, I would rather people think I'm a genuine 573 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: person than I'm fucking hot or super talented or I 574 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: couldn't like that appealed to me once, but it's so 575 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: vacuous it just doesn't lead to For me, it doesn't 576 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: lead to anything spiritually, emotionally or psychologically nourishing. It doesn't 577 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: feed me. 578 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: You know. 579 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: My ego is this voracious, fucking, insatiable, fucking you know 580 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: thing that just wants all this shits. But I'm I 581 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: think I'm at a point I'm still a work in progress, 582 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: but just where I recognize that, I'm like, oh, well 583 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: that's still there, you know. But it's then how you 584 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: self regulate, you know, when I'm feeling insecure or inadequate 585 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: or pretty fucking amazing, or like I think I'm the shit, 586 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: or it's just having the awareness in that moment of 587 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and while there's also we can think highly of ourselves 588 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: without being arrogant or egotistical. I think we need self love. 589 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I think we need to go you know what, as 590 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: much as I can be, I think I'm doing okay, 591 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: you know. So it's all about self awareness, not self loathing. 592 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: But that for me, it's like I've said this probably 593 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: ten times in eight years on the show. But if 594 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: I got offered tonight to talk to ten thousand people 595 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: in a room for no dollars or one hundred people 596 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: in a room for ten thousand dollars, I would hand 597 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: on hard choose the free gig because for me, being 598 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: able to reach ten thousand people impact ten thousand people 599 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: in real time, face to face, in a three dimensional 600 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: kind of real life. I can see, touch, feel humans, 601 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I can hug someone, I can laugh with someone, I 602 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: can cry with someone. So that fuels my spiritual, emotional 603 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: and psychological bank balance way more than a few more 604 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: dollars in the bank or a lot more dollars in 605 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: the bank, because you get to you get to a 606 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: point some of us where many of us maybe not everyone, 607 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: of course, but you get to a point. And I 608 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: don't mean about owning heaps of shit, but you go, 609 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: how much money do I need, like need, not want? 610 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: And how much stuff do I need not want? And 611 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: one of my goals this year and I hate being 612 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: a person who sets goals for the years, but fuck it, 613 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: here I am hands in the air, is just to 614 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: basically get rid of everything that I don't use or 615 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: really want and I just have so much. You know, 616 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: He's an example, and then I'll shut up. So last 617 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: night I thought I'm going to get did I tell 618 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: you this the guitar story. Anyway, I'm going to take 619 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: my I've got a mate on guitar, which is a 620 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: beautiful guitar, and it's kind of people who play guitar 621 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: hold them in relatively high regard there. They're just nice guitars, right, 622 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: and then it just gets not used nearly enough. And 623 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: I bumped into a guy that I know who fixes guitars, 624 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: three strings guitars, kind of gives them a tune and service. 625 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll give him a shout out. His name's Ron Lees. 626 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: He's in Hampton Street. He's got a music store. He's 627 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: a beautiful human being. If your kids or you need 628 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: lessons or I'm just giving him a plug because he's 629 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: just rock solid human right and being in music his 630 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: whole life. Anyway, So I bumped into him the other day. 631 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I said, mate, I've got to bring my guitar up 632 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: because it's fucking sitting in the corner of my bedroom 633 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: on a guitar stand, crying because it gets no attention 634 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: and it just needs new strings, needs a bit of love. 635 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: And anyway, because I haven't taken it anywhere for ten years, 636 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: five years, I'm like, I better go find my case. 637 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: So I go to this wardrobe or this closet that 638 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: I never open, and there was three cases in there. 639 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, why the fuck have I got three cases? Anyway? 640 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: So I get out the one on the top. I 641 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: take it in and it doesn't quite It fits in, 642 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit too snug, right, and I go, well, 643 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe i'll get the next one on the pile 644 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: because that seems a little bigger. So I got the 645 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: next one. I'm like, fuck, this case is heavy. Had 646 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: another guitar in it, right, had a Fender. Do you 647 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: know what a Fender guitar is? So the fucking burger 648 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: with a lot a Fender acoustic, which are not very common, 649 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I forgot I had this. And then 650 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: I went, well, I can't put it in here, and 651 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe i'll put it in the bottom one. I pulled 652 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: that out. There was another guitar in there, So I 653 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: had two guitars I didn't know about. That's how much 654 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: shit I have, right, And so I'm getting all of 655 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: them fixed and I'm going to give at least one 656 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: of them away. And they're all beautiful guitars, right, Yeah. 657 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: I just like i'd known that before I bought my 658 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: guitar this week. 659 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well well yeah, these also would have if he 660 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: is one of them is Actually it's probably the least 661 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: of the group, but it's still a nice guitar. It's 662 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: called at Takamini and it's a twelve string. It's so beautiful. 663 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 664 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyway, I'm digressing. But yeah, so you know, 665 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: just that what do we really need? Like most of 666 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: us don't need more stuff. That's not say acquiring stuff. 667 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: As one of my mates just bought a new boat. 668 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: It's like a pig in shit, you know. But for 669 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: me that has zero interest. But for him, and I'm 670 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: happy for him. It gives him joy and it gives 671 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: him family joy, his family joy. And so there's no 672 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: there's no Debbie Downer on ownership, right, I think it's 673 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: But it's just like, what's my reason with everything? Why 674 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: do I do this? You know, I bought a fancy 675 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: car a year ago, I would say a year and 676 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: a half ago. I would say, I drove it seven times, 677 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: this fancy car in the garage and my way less 678 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: fancy car in the driveway, which is worth a dollar 679 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: eighty nine. I drive every day, right because I don't 680 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: like I don't care what people think or otherwise I 681 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: would drive the fancy car. And then last week or 682 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: the week before, Tommy Jacket shout out to Tommy. Tommy goes, 683 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: can I buy your car? The one that you never drive? 684 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, let's figure out the price, and he 685 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: bought it. I'm like, okay, and now it's gone. I 686 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: don't even fucking miss it. I don't even miss it. 687 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's so dumb, but we all buy into that. 688 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: Have you got a lot of shit to throw out 689 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: at your joint? Like, of all the stuff that you have, 690 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: how much of it don't you use? 691 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, like I've got a lot of clothes, clothes 692 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: I never wear. 693 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: I've got two wardrobes or two Erry Mouse and two 694 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: big wardrobes and their chocolate block, and I never have 695 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: clothes to wear. And I never wear the clothes I have. 696 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: What is that about? 697 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: Only forty pairs of shoes? I don't wear them. 698 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: So, as you know, we just moved on. And Mary recently, 699 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: and Mary who's eighty six and probably ain't going to 700 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: be going out a lot, right, but she'll go out 701 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: here and there. And but so we moved the initial move. 702 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: We got all the stuff that they needed needed, and 703 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: I would say there was six to eight pairs of 704 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: shoes for Mumm and she's like, I want you to 705 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: bring that suitcase or there's two suitcases. And I looked 706 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: in the two suitcases back at House one. I'm not lying. 707 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: There was maybe sixty pairs of shoes. 708 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: It's my mum too. 709 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, Mary, there's sixty pairs of shoes. I want them. 710 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's great. You're never going to wear them 711 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: because you haven't worn them in the last ten years. 712 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: You never know, she says. 713 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm with that. I totally understand. 714 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: You're with that. 715 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you do never know? 716 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Well you do? Now, Well what do I know. I'm 717 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: just a dude with about five pairs of shoes and 718 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: one pair of thongs, So don't fucking listen to me. 719 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: I know nothing, all right. Well, I don't know if 720 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: anyone got anything out of that, but I know that 721 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: you're hungry, and I don't want to get in between 722 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: you and food. So it seems like a prudent decision 723 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: that and also you and Scott, I feel like it's 724 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: wise that we should wind this up so you enjoy 725 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: your dinner. And Scott in that order. Oh there's so 726 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: many great things I could say right now, fuck and great. 727 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: I won't say any of them, of course, we don't 728 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: want to be. 729 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: I am very hungry and I am very lucky. He's 730 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: a chef, you are? 731 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: That is good? That is he cooking as we speak? 732 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: Ye? 733 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: Is he cheffing his the last off? 734 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 735 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: Do you know what's for dinner? 736 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: No? You never tell you all ask him? 737 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: Can you ask? Oh? You won't tell you it? Just 738 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: played it up, really, yep, I know a Scott. 739 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you do. 740 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Any Scott's out there that want to move 741 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: in and just feed me. You've got to be a dude, 742 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: because I'm no good with girls, so so you've got 743 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: to be a dude, preferably a mute with. 744 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: Kitchen skills, not having mine. 745 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: All right, All right, well I think we're done. I'm 746 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: sorry everyone yet to listen to all that. But anyway, 747 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a bit of a chat. We'll 748 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: see you next time and hopefully it be better. Thanks TIV, 749 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Hav