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Speaker 1: On Scar louds Ostrodio. This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panety Show coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight. Well fact check Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is

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Speaker 2: bizarre Sky News rant, the ABC lurching from crisis to crisis.

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Speaker 2: It's not just legal headaches for the national broadcaster, but

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Speaker 2: today's radio ratings were disastrous, the lowest ABC Melbourne has

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Speaker 2: recorded since modern records began some twenty years ago. And

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Speaker 2: tonight's Lefties Losing It features Fatties for Palestine.

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Speaker 3: Fatties for Palestine, what a consapp So these are available

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Speaker 3: in an extra large to E six acts. It's just

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Speaker 3: fat folks showing their solidarity because oppression recognizes opression and

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Speaker 3: ol oppression is interconnected.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 2: We've had queers for Palestine and now Fatty for Palestine.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see what they conjure up next. Now

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Speaker 2: the Minister for Immigration is under attack again this way

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Speaker 2: he has been the focal point of question time for

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Speaker 2: five sittings in a row. He's made a number of

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Speaker 2: serious blunders in this crucial portfolio, including Ministerial Direction ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: which has led directly to criminals including pedophiles and rapists

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Speaker 2: dodging deportation. Now, as reported first on Sky News, the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister's hands are.

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Speaker 5: Not entirely clean. Not only does he.

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Speaker 2: Have responsibility as the leader of this inept government, but

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Speaker 2: it was his department that directly instructed the Home Affairs

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Speaker 2: Department to find a way to stop the deportation of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand citizens who had lived in Australia for many years.

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Speaker 2: This was at the behest of former New Zealand Prime

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Speaker 2: ministerist into Ard Dern. She had made the same requests

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Speaker 2: of the coalition government and been rightly ignored, but now

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Speaker 2: laborer in power. Sky News was first report on the

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Speaker 2: weekend that the PM's department's instruction came prior to the

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Speaker 2: drafting of Immigration Minister Andrew Giles's Direction ninety nine in

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Speaker 2: January twenty twenty three, which Labor is scrambling to revise

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Speaker 2: this week even they realize what a mess up this

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Speaker 2: is now. We'll get back to the PM in a second,

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Speaker 2: But the Immigration Minister has again this week blamed his

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Speaker 2: department after admitting he falsely claimed criminals release from detention

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Speaker 2: were being monitored by drones. Jiles wants to blame the

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Speaker 2: aat the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

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Speaker 5: He wants to blame his department.

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Speaker 2: He takes no responsibility for the mayhem his helped usher in.

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Speaker 2: But it's not just the Immigration minister. Have a look

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Speaker 2: at how the Prime Minister responded to the news Andrew

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Speaker 2: Colonel broke on Sky News about his own department.

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Speaker 6: Andrew Clanel of Sky News has reported that following the

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Speaker 6: Prime Minister's meetings with Jacinta Adirn and prior to the

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Speaker 6: introduction of Direction ninety nine, the Prime Minister's Department directly

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Speaker 6: instructed the Home Affairs Department to attempt to find a

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Speaker 6: way to stop the deportation of so many New Zealand

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Speaker 6: citizens and to quote fix the problem, Prime Minister, is

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Speaker 6: this true?

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Speaker 2: Sky News Occasionally occasionally don't get things right.

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Speaker 7: I know it'll come, usually tonight, usually during.

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Speaker 1: The day before it becomes dark, when truth sort of

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Speaker 1: gets darkened as the day goes.

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Speaker 2: On Sky after dark, truth gets darkened. Does he not

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Speaker 2: know Andrew Colonel's show Sunday A Gender is on in

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Speaker 2: the morning. It's eight am, Albert. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: parallel universe you inhabit, but eight am ain't dark and

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Speaker 2: as far as an amateur hour attacks against Sky News's

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Speaker 2: prime time lineup, Albow is showing yet again he's a

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Speaker 2: student activist who's foiled his way up all the way

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Speaker 2: into the launch. Joining me now as senior Herald Sun

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Speaker 2: columnist Patrick Carlin and Patrick the PM's bizarro rant. There

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Speaker 2: does not distract anyone interested in this issue. They've made

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Speaker 2: a mess of this area, They've pledged to fix it.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be replacing Direction ninety nine in the

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Speaker 2: coming days.

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Speaker 8: Well, look, I think Rita, I think Greg Sheridan got

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Speaker 8: it right today in The Australian he talked about Andrew

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Speaker 8: Giles making an error every time he opens his mouth,

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Speaker 8: and then the next time he opens his mouth he

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Speaker 8: blamed somebody else for the error. And this has been

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Speaker 8: going on for weeks. It's put us in danger as

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Speaker 8: a community. I've never seen a minister struggle for so long,

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Speaker 8: and he really does need to be put out of

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Speaker 8: his misery. But that's very interesting what's come out today.

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Speaker 8: In the last few days. The previous government pushed back

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Speaker 8: against New Zealand on changing these rules. It's because of

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Speaker 8: what happened in July twenty twenty two and Albo and

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Speaker 8: Jacinda Adurn that actually led to this situation now, so

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Speaker 8: it's bigger than we thought it.

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Speaker 5: Was, absolutely and.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand has been campaigning for that to happen for

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Speaker 2: some time. They don't want their criminals sent back to them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we would be trying to appease them.

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Speaker 2: It's New Zealand for for the love of God. Now

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Speaker 2: there's labor mistakes are obviously making some within the party nervous,

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Speaker 2: nervous enough perhaps to leak stories against potential leadership rivals.

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Speaker 2: To Anthony ALBERIZI look at this one about NDIS Minister

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Speaker 2: Bill Shorten.

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Speaker 5: Former leader Bill Shorten to Daily Telegraph.

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Speaker 2: Reveals he's got his own personal speech writer, costing the

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Speaker 2: taxpayer six hundred and twenty thousand dollars over two years.

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Speaker 5: This is a genuine story, but.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting the timing their source is interesting, and particularly

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Speaker 2: when you mean it's definitely a story that should be

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Speaker 2: told because this is a minister with a communications department.

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Speaker 2: Why does he need to be paying someone six hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty thousand over two years to write speeches? I mean,

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Speaker 2: who's he speaking to the Hague?

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Speaker 8: You know the market rate for writers, don't you. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: given what we do, six hundred and twenty grand over

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Speaker 8: two years is pretty good going.

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Speaker 5: How many speeches is he doing a day against that?

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Speaker 8: Bill Shorten, who is savvy, has sort of distanced himself

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Speaker 8: from it and sort of said, well, this has nothing

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Speaker 8: to do with me, but who's setting the market rate here?

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Speaker 8: It's an awful lot of money, absolutely, in an area

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Speaker 8: that is plagued with problems with the endis and everything

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Speaker 8: else for somebody to be paid that amount of but

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Speaker 8: that sort of work just beggars below.

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Speaker 2: And he's got a communication, he's got people within his

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Speaker 2: own team who are capable of helping him with his speeches.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be refreshing if a minister wrote his own speeches,

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Speaker 2: his own words.

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Speaker 8: That would never happen now, That would never happen.

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Speaker 2: Now to Victoria, where landlords are going to have to

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Speaker 2: install ceiling installation and energy effission heating system, whole raft

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Speaker 2: of new works. They will have to be undertaken to

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Speaker 2: meet new minimum standards to help improve rental conditions and

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Speaker 2: keep the electricity bills down for renters. The Victorian government

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Speaker 2: ministers are very excited to announce these changes.

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Speaker 9: We're here to announce today the launch of consultation on

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Speaker 9: some new minimum standards.

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Speaker 7: From October next year. There'd need to be ceiling insulation,

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Speaker 7: weather seals, three star cooling systems, four star shower heads

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Speaker 10: We're looking at annual dollar savings on tenants bills of

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Speaker 10: around three hundred and thirty dollars.

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Speaker 2: The save renters three hundred dollars if they're right with

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Speaker 2: their figures, and the Victorian government often are not right

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Speaker 5: Figures three hundred dollars annually.

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Speaker 2: But I would argue, if the landlord is going to

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Speaker 2: have to spend thousands, and we're talking many thousands to

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Speaker 2: meet these minimum standards, the rents are going to go

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Speaker 2: up by a little bit more than three hundred annually.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how monstrously stupid would you have to be

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Speaker 2: Patrick not to see this the impact that you're going

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Speaker 2: to have less rental properties available, so the rental pool shrinks,

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Speaker 2: rents go up, and that the landlords are going to

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Speaker 2: try to pass these costs on too rents naturally.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And look, I mean you can't look at this

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Speaker 8: in isolation. Here in Victoria, we've got a land tax

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Speaker 8: that's tripled or something like that in the last few years.

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Speaker 8: The overheads for landlords have just gone through the room.

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Speaker 8: The Victorian government seems to be driven by ideology and debt,

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Speaker 8: where the rich people have to pay off this debt

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Speaker 8: that just keeps escalating week in week out with the

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Speaker 8: big projects here in Victoria. And of course the renters

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Speaker 8: they're the ones who are caught in the buying. I mean,

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Speaker 8: in a lot of cases, they can't afford to stay

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Speaker 8: and they can't afford to go because it is so

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Speaker 8: difficult with the cost of living. The Victorian government is

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Speaker 8: doing nothing for them on any level, and in so

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Speaker 8: many ways they're actually hurting them and making it worse.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go to this story from the mul Dives

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Speaker 2: or the Maldives.

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Speaker 5: Which one do you prefer.

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Speaker 1: Mold E's I believe.

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Speaker 5: Is it's correct. I've been there and I still don't

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Speaker 5: know what's correct.

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Speaker 2: But this popular holiday destination is going to ban Israeli

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Speaker 2: passports from Israelis can no longer holiday there, and thousands

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Speaker 2: do from Israel every year.

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Speaker 5: This is not isolated.

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Speaker 2: There's a number of Islamic majority countries that ban Israeli

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Speaker 2: passports or the likes of Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Kuwait, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen.

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Speaker 5: As others on the list.

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Speaker 2: This is a bold move, then this could have an

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Speaker 2: impact far wider than Israel. I'm going to imagine there'd

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Speaker 2: be a lot of other people who'd say, I'll find

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Speaker 2: somewhere else idealic to holiday, not somewhere that bands Israeli passports.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 8: I think eleven thousand Israelis go to the Maldives each year,

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Speaker 8: and there were actually warnings starting to be introduced last

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Speaker 8: year within Israel.

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Speaker 1: Watch out, you.

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Speaker 8: Take it carefully if you're planning to go there. I

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Speaker 8: think in this rise of anti Semitism that we're feeling

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Speaker 8: here in Australia, if anything, this is actually a good

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Speaker 8: reason not to go to the Maldives, whether you're Jewish

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Speaker 8: the board. It's very Islamic driven in its direction, and

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Speaker 8: it's actually famil I'd say, well, hang on, if I'm

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Speaker 8: going to go here or there.

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Speaker 1: I might not go there because of this.

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Speaker 2: I tell you where it's idyllic and you don't have

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Speaker 2: any of these sort of conditions.

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Speaker 5: The Florida Panhandle.

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Speaker 2: That's where I like to go beach holidays.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, put that on the list.

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Speaker 2: Now to this disturbing story from Europe, the euthanasia slippery

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Speaker 2: slope is real. A physically healthy Dutch woman named Zarea

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Speaker 2: tur Beek had her life terminated because her depression met

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Speaker 2: the requirement for unbearable suffering with no prospect of improvement.

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Speaker 2: She was only twenty nine years old. A sad, depressed

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Speaker 2: twenty nine year old who was killed by this stay

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Speaker 2: this is state sponsored suicide. We know she her a

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Speaker 2: little bit of her story. She was bullied as a child.

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Speaker 2: She was diagnosed with autism. At twenty one, she started

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Speaker 2: wearing a do not Resuscitate tag around to neck. At

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Speaker 2: twenty two, she said her psychologist has told her that

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Speaker 2: a depression wasn't going to go away and started her

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Speaker 2: on her assisted suicide journey.

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Speaker 8: Patrick, this is awful, just absolutely awful. I find it

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Speaker 8: hard to believe that a psychologist would say you're never

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Speaker 8: going to get over your depression and then start to

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Speaker 8: help this process of dying, that is stay sponsored. I've

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Speaker 8: seen elderly people go through terminal illness and linger longer

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Speaker 8: than they should, and euthanasia is a good thing in

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Speaker 8: a lot of those cases. But a twenty nine year old,

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Speaker 8: how can you say, well, the rest of her life

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Speaker 8: is doomed, We're going to end it nowtantly healthy.

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Speaker 2: But they consider mental pain chronic pain. Patrick Carline, thank

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Speaker 5: Tell me what.

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Speaker 2: Impact this decision will have on the case she's pursuing.

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Speaker 10: the ABC were arguing that she wasn't terminated. She had

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Speaker 10: They're saying, you know, you don't need to shop for

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Speaker 10: So this is a story that just will not go

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Speaker 5: This is interesting.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got five shifts under some sort of

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Speaker 4: Well, that clearly must be the case reto.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got bigger problems, I would argue here in

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Speaker 4: That's right RETA.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to I don't know, rejigt their offering

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Speaker 4: And that's the problem REACHO.

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Speaker 10: They just you know, shuffle did a bit of musical chairs.

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Speaker 5: Now let's talk about the Project.

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Speaker 2: Apparently having a bunch of lefty hosts, that's not enough.

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Speaker 5: Let's have a look.

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Speaker 11: Because we keep talking about it being a cheaper source

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I need economics and energy advice, I go

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Speaker 2: tell me about the project, how they're traveling. We're hearing

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Speaker 10: Well, they've changed the whole rating system RITA, so it's

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Speaker 4: But we do know that.

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Speaker 10: Freedomware television has struggled in recent years, particularly the growth

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Speaker 10: really just in this little echo chamber of left leaning voices.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't very rarely branch out other than having people

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Speaker 10: a week, once a week, for once a week.

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Speaker 5: As token conservative for once a week.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Rita.

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Speaker 5: Now Channel nine.

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Speaker 2: They've got their own woes as now talk about a

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Speaker 5: What's the latest that Channel nine.

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Speaker 4: So, Rita, this is saga is still going on.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, there's a lot of people have spoken out of

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Speaker 4: This looks like.

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Speaker 10: It's going to gain some momentum Rita. With a lot

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Speaker 10: they could potentially sue nine again. This is another headache

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Speaker 2: Still as Maurice Blackburn in and inviting women to come

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Speaker 10: So they've put a post up on social media saying,

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Speaker 10: reduced it to particular networks. But it's broader than that,

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Speaker 10: and I suspect going on what we've seen in recent weeks,

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Speaker 5: Interesting. So for Elsworth, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Rita.

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Speaker 5: Still to come.

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Speaker 2: Lefties losing It and doctor Sebastian.

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Speaker 5: Gorka tells me what really.

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Speaker 2: Happened in that Manhattan courtroom. That's up next, Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for Lefties losing it. I regret to

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Speaker 2: inform you that Queers for Palestine has some competition in

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Speaker 2: the Lefties losing its space. Sorry QFP, but a new

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Speaker 2: clown show has joined the chat. It's FFP Fatties for Palestine.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's a thing now.

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Speaker 1: Enough.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they even have their own shirts and you can

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Speaker 3: Are you fat? Are you pro Palestine? Boy? Do I

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Speaker 3: have a shirt for you? A look what I just got?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it beautiful? Fatty is for Palestine?

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Speaker 12: What a concept?

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Speaker 3: So these are available in an extra large two A

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Speaker 3: six x. So basically, you know, it's just fat folks

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Speaker 3: showing their solidarity because oppression recognizes oppression and all oppression

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Speaker 3: is interconnected. My only complaint is I wish it came

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Speaker 3: coffee stand on mine. But you know what, it's okay.

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Speaker 3: The money went to where it was supposed to go

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Speaker 3: to free Palestine.

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Speaker 13: Go get one.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear that oppression recognizes oppression and all oppression

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Speaker 2: is interconnected. That's that warped intersectional dogma, just more neo

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Speaker 2: Marxist lunacy. And can we stop pretending that fatties are

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Speaker 2: an oppressed group. You literally have more food than you need.

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Speaker 2: Most of the world's population over most of the history

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Speaker 2: fattist for Palestine, and they are making an appearance on

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Speaker 2: university campuses as well.

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Speaker 5: You can't miss them.

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Speaker 12: We're here at Umas's campus supporting the students in their encampment.

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Speaker 12: They're demanding for divestment from war properteers and the warmongers.

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Speaker 12: I'm here with Yaffa, who just come to the students

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Speaker 13: Am ritupid as a crowd.

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: It's been such a pleasure to be out here.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure You're able to come out.

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Speaker 8: Come out if you're not in Massachusetts or Western Massachusetts,

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Speaker 8: go out to an encampment, you're in students around here

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Speaker 8: starting these encampments everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this movement is growing at a rapid pace. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see what these lefties losing it will

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Speaker 2: come up with next. Now, let's look at a sketch

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Speaker 2: mocking the excesses.

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Speaker 5: Of the Wok mind virus.

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Speaker 2: Remember the board game Guess Who. It's still around and

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Speaker 2: Does it cater for demi boys and non binary pan sexuals?

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Speaker 5: It does?

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Speaker 13: Now, Hey, kids who wants to play Guess Who?

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Speaker 4: I don't like that game.

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Speaker 5: It's not inclusive. Yeah, it only has two genders, not anymore.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, introducing the all new Guess Who now with all

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Speaker 13: four hundred and thirty seven genders.

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Speaker 4: Is you a person by gender?

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Speaker 14: Mom?

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Speaker 9: You cannot determine someone's gender based on their appearance.

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Speaker 5: That's disrespectful and offensive.

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Speaker 1: Is your person at Demi Boyne?

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Speaker 13: Identifying someone solely based on their gender is reductive and offensive.

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Speaker 14: Does your person look like someone who is trying to

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Speaker 9: Privileging traditional gender stereotypes is patriarchal and offensive.

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Speaker 13: Four hundred and thirty seven Gender Guess Who great for

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Speaker 5: Scheme is too many visus taking forever?

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Speaker 1: Do you want this game to be easy to play

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Speaker 5: Be inclusive inclusive?

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Speaker 13: Four hundred and thirty seven Gender Guess Who Hours of

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Speaker 2: Oh we lack a good parody on this program, and

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Speaker 5: But it's sadly all too real.

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Speaker 2: Here is an American couple who take their young children

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Speaker 2: for an exciting and riching overseas holiday too Afghanistan, you know,

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Speaker 2: the country ruled by the Taliban, the barbaric Islamus tyrants

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Speaker 2: that stop girls from going to school, that stone women

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Speaker 2: The chickpease soup is delicious.

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Speaker 4: We are here from the United States of America.

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Speaker 14: They chose to come here to Afghanistan and May of

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Speaker 12: We found Let's Go Afghanistan online and it has been

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Speaker 15: We crossed the border into Jikistan, came down through Kunduz's

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Speaker 15: and a couple of days in Bamian.

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Speaker 5: Now a couple of days here in couple and then

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Speaker 5: we will actually through the accident.

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Speaker 15: We enjoyed the food, we enjoyed the culture, we enjoyed

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Speaker 15: the history, the archaeology.

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Speaker 13: We enjoyed meeting people that which is probably the best

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Speaker 13: part of the whole trip.

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Speaker 3: And we would encourage you to come to Kenna Sensi

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Speaker 3: with Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to play you a short clip of

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Speaker 2: Eric Trump referring to the swing of African American voters

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Speaker 2: to Trump, and then an epic lefty losing it moment

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Speaker 1: And you see them swing.

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Speaker 13: You look at the African American field right that swing

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Speaker 13: over to Donald Trump and speeds.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the lefty democrat losing it. Because Eric Trump

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Speaker 2: used the phrase in spades. Alex Cole tweeted this MF

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Speaker 2: really called black people spades?

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Speaker 5: Holy shid. These people are so racist they don't realize

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Speaker 5: they're races.

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Speaker 2: Black people will be swinging over to Donald Trump in spades.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now, I've got to say I first thought this was

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Speaker 2: a comedy account, but it's sadly not. This lefty losing

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Speaker 2: it is Alex Cole, who was around one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand followers on x He says is a pilot,

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Speaker 2: a software engineer and editor. Is very busy, obviously, and

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Speaker 2: he's clearly not the only race baiting democrat with major

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Speaker 2: comprehension issues because that demented tweet had thousands of likes.

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Speaker 5: Talk about low information voters.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm sure we'll be discussing more Left is losing

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Speaker 2: it with my next guest, I'm absolutely thrilled to have

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Speaker 2: doctor Sebastian Gorka. He's a former deputy assistant to Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and the host of America First with Sebastian Gorka.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the program, Dr Gorka.

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Speaker 2: You were in that courtroom for this hush money trial.

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Speaker 2: You wrote a fantastic piece about it on your sub stack,

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Speaker 2: and it really was a trial with an unashamedly partisan

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Speaker 2: judge brought by a prosecutor he got into office on

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Speaker 2: a Get Trump campaign.

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Speaker 5: And you wrote of what you saw.

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Speaker 2: You you were in that courtroom, and you wrote of

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Speaker 2: Judge Merchand's bias. In a back and forth lasting for hours,

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Speaker 2: with scores of requests from either side, Machan accepted every

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Speaker 2: demand from Alvin Bragg's team, the prosecutor, and none from

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Speaker 2: the defense. At one point he even said to the

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Speaker 2: president's attorney, as he was standing up and preparing to

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Speaker 2: make a point, sit down.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to hear from you again.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this was this is why we didn't

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Speaker 2: have cameras in that courtroom, an attempt to hide from

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Speaker 2: the public.

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Speaker 5: Just what a hit job this was?

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Speaker 1: Oh utally. I mean, as the former Attorney general who

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Speaker 1: was with me with the president, Matt Whitaker said when

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Speaker 1: we had a press conference outside, he said, the judge

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Speaker 1: should be wearing the jersey of the prosecution. This is

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Speaker 1: a stitch up. This was a hatchet job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at the fact that the person prosecuting for Alvin Bragg, who,

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Speaker 1: as you say, campaign because we have this weird thing

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Speaker 1: where we have prosecutors who are elected to officers, campaigned

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Speaker 1: on putting President Trump in prison, a man who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, was also funded by George Soros in that campaign.

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Speaker 1: And then who's his line prosecutor in the case. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is where it gets really fascinating. Matthew Colangelo. Who's

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Speaker 1: Matthew Colangelo. Well, he parachuted in from the stinking swamp

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Speaker 1: that is Washington, DC, where he was the number three,

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Speaker 1: the third most senior law enforcement officer in Biden's Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice. Never before in the history of federal law

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Speaker 1: enforcement does the third highest ranking official in the federal

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice just magically fall all the way down

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Speaker 1: the snakes and ladders to become a line prosecutor in

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Speaker 1: a local court in New York. Why did he take

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Speaker 1: that massive pay cup because he's doing the bidding of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden in that courtroom. The whole thing was a farrago.

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Speaker 1: Look the way you understand this, and President Trump even

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Speaker 1: quoted my substack article today on his truth Social Fee

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Speaker 1: is that this is how they want to steal the

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Speaker 1: election before the first ballot is even cast. They know

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Speaker 1: President Trump is going to win. Why New Jersey, New

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Speaker 1: Jersey is a Democrat state. President Trump goes there and

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Speaker 1: a hundred thousand working class minority Americans go to see

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Speaker 1: President Trump. Biden is toast if we have a free

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Speaker 1: and fair election. That's why they want to put President

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Speaker 1: Trump in prison. On July eleventh, you.

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Speaker 2: Talked about the third ranking Justice Department dude coming down

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Speaker 2: to this local court to be a prosecutor. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do we have a local court in Manhattan prosecuting

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Speaker 2: federal election crimes? Mean, on the face of it, it

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Speaker 2: seems so obset. We've had so many legal experts talk

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Speaker 2: about the massive inconsistencies and just extraordinary things that have

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Speaker 2: seen in this trial. And yet there was a poll

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Speaker 2: out today showing that around fifty three percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: think this was a fair trial.

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Speaker 5: How can that be.

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Speaker 1: Well, because they listen to propaganda halls like CNN and

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. I mean, that's why. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: your chirn and your introduction is a talking point for

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Speaker 1: the mainstreamlining legacy media hush money trial. It's not a

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Speaker 1: hush money trial. It's a non disclosure agreement. I signed

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Speaker 1: a non disclosure agreement with mister Trump in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: when I came on board to be his national security

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Speaker 1: advisor for the debate. An NDA is a completely standard

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Speaker 1: business practice in Australia, in the UK, in America. And

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Speaker 1: this is what it's a fabricated crime. The statute of

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Speaker 1: limitation that expired five years ago for what they charged

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Speaker 1: him with, which is what a misstatement on a financial

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Speaker 1: internal document where he said this is legal fees. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was because he was paying his lawyer. And then

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Speaker 1: they come up with this Rube Goldberg lunatic thing that well,

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Speaker 1: the hush money so called payment was made to protect

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Speaker 1: the president's reputation during an election. Therefore it should have

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Speaker 1: been paid for from the campaign fund. But here's where

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Speaker 1: it gets bizarre. When was that payment to the president's

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Speaker 1: lawyer made. This is an important point, January after the election.

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Speaker 1: How can you undermine an election three months after the

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Speaker 1: election occurred unless the check went into HG. Wells's time

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Speaker 1: machine and went back in time. The whole thing is abrurcation.

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Speaker 1: And your other point is completely well taken. It's a

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Speaker 1: federal election. So what is a state court in New

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Speaker 1: York doing trying to prosecute a federal election allegation? The

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Speaker 1: Federal Election Commission deemed there to be no crime. Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg's predecessor in New York, Saivans Junior, said, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: no crime here. Oh, but President Trump becomes the nominee

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Speaker 1: for the Republicans. He's beating Joe Piden in six of

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Speaker 1: the six battleground states. Are now we're going to charge

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Speaker 1: him with the Trump up felony everybody sees through this

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Speaker 1: who's awake, has our eyes open, and has a pulse.

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Speaker 2: Now you were in court, you know, President Trump. Did

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Speaker 2: he appear rattled at any point when those verdicts came

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Speaker 2: through and the thirty four guilties.

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Speaker 5: Did you sense that at he felt fear or despair?

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Speaker 1: This man is quite remarkable. I've never seen him show

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Speaker 1: fear since I've known him since what twenty fifteen. Look,

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Speaker 1: he said something quite moving that day. He said that

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Speaker 1: I am prepared to go to prison because the US

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Speaker 1: Constitution is more important than my liberty. What person says that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let alone, what politician? He says, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: this for all of you. It's not about me. And

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Speaker 1: he's right. I mean, Donald Trump, without any question, is

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Speaker 1: the most famous man in the world. He's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: He's a person who's escorted twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 1: seven days a week by Secret Service agents carrying fully

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Speaker 1: automatic weapons. That man is very clear about one thing.

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Speaker 1: If they can do it to him, they can do

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Speaker 1: it to any American. And that's why he will never

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Speaker 1: ever stopped. And as he said last Thursday, standing in

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Speaker 1: that dingy corridor under that neon lighting, the real verdict

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Speaker 1: will be on November fifth, when the American people speak,

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Speaker 1: well this law fare.

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Speaker 2: There are now debates happening amongst conservatives. Some say Republicans

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Speaker 2: must take the high road, they can't play these dirty

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Speaker 2: games the Democrats have played, and others say no, this

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Speaker 2: is the only way to deal with this strategy is

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Speaker 2: to throw it back at them and their suggestions.

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Speaker 5: If you want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Election interference, what about that letter that was signed by

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Speaker 2: fifty one national security experts. Where did that letter originate from,

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Speaker 2: who had a hand in crafting it? Those fifty one

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Speaker 2: security experts who claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop and all

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Speaker 2: the information contained within it about the Biden family was

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Speaker 2: Russian disinformation that came out right before the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 2: To credit that New York Post story, and you could

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Speaker 2: argue very easily that was a clear case of election interference.

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Speaker 5: Did the likes of the.

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Speaker 2: Biden campaign, Joe Biden, Anthony Blincoln, did they have any

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Speaker 2: hand in spreading that message? Do you think that's going

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Speaker 2: to happen? Do you think the Republicans are going to

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Speaker 2: go after Joe Biden, go after Hillary Clinton and other

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Speaker 2: Democrats as they've gone against their ideological opponents.

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Speaker 1: Well, first things first, we know who orchestrated that. It

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Speaker 1: is Anthony Blincoln, the Secretary of State, and Mike Morell.

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Speaker 1: Mike Morell has confessed on the testimony in front of

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Speaker 1: the House of Representative as acting director of the CIA,

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Speaker 1: which should be a completely non political position, he orchestrated

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Speaker 1: the signatures of those fifty one former CIA directors and

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Speaker 1: intelligence officers to lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, which

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Speaker 1: we now know is true. The photographs, the video, the prostitutes,

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Speaker 1: the guns, the cocaine, it's all real. And they said, no,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a Russian this information. That's the

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Speaker 1: acting director of the CIA. That is the definition of

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Speaker 1: the deep state. Now what are the Republicans going to

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Speaker 1: do now? First thing is, first they're not going to

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Speaker 1: go after their political ideological opponents, because then we sync

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Speaker 1: to the gutter of those who believe that the state

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Speaker 1: is there is a political weapon. What we must go after,

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Speaker 1: not politically, but in the terms of justice, is those

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Speaker 1: who have committed crimes. If you worked in the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration leaked secret documents to the Washington Post CNN, you

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Speaker 1: committed a felony. If you're Jim comey former director of

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Speaker 1: the FBI. If you're James Clapper, John Brannan directed the

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Speaker 1: DII and the CIA, you affected the illegal surveillance of

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Speaker 1: a presidential candidate. It's Operation Crossfire Hurricane. You use the

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Speaker 1: most powerful intelligence agencies in the world as a political tool.

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Speaker 1: You must be charged with abuse of power, and you

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Speaker 1: must stand in a dock and answer for your crimes

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Speaker 1: and be judged by injury of your peers. So unless

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Speaker 1: we restore faith in our institutions, I mean the biggest

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Speaker 1: you know, President Trump is doing great. He's raised two

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in the last seventy two hours. I

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Speaker 1: mean that never before seen since the verdict. But God willing,

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Speaker 1: if we have a free and fair election, he will

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Speaker 1: be re elected and he will be the president, whether

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Speaker 1: he's convicted or not. But the bigger problem is this reader.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, tens of millions of Americans lost complete and

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Speaker 1: utter faith in the judicial system and the organs of

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Speaker 1: the state that have the power to imprison. That takes

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Speaker 1: much longer than one election to fix. Tens of millions

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Speaker 1: of Americans say, hang on a second, the FBI, the DOJ,

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Speaker 1: the State of New York, if they don't like my face,

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Speaker 1: if they don't like my politics, they can put me

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Speaker 1: in prison for years. That the real damage done to

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Speaker 1: the Republic, and that has been done by the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: The effect of this trial on the polls, it appears

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Speaker 2: to be mixed.

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Speaker 5: There's a new.

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Speaker 2: ABC poll suggesting perceptions of Donald Trump and Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: are statistically unchanged from before the verdict was announced. Roytis

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Speaker 2: poll says that one in ten Republicans are less likely

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Speaker 2: to vote for Trump post verdict than they were before.

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Speaker 2: There's been a number of other polls talked about them

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Speaker 2: over the weekend that showed Trump's support actually improved after

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Speaker 2: the conviction. What do you think the impact of this case,

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Speaker 2: this conviction is going to be in November on Trump's

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Speaker 2: chances of being elected president.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's very simple. Just look at what happened. Seventy

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Speaker 1: million dollars in eight hours from small donors. Then we

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Speaker 1: have another one hundred and thirty million from big institutional donors.

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Speaker 1: That's two hundred million dollars in seventy two hours. Forget polls,

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Speaker 1: look at and go. You know, if you go to

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Speaker 1: my Twitter feed because I want social media lot, and

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Speaker 1: when you see Democrats who bring the receipts and by name,

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Speaker 1: they say, I'm a Democrat, I voted Democrat all my life,

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Speaker 1: I'm voting for President Trump, and I just donated to

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Speaker 1: his campaign. And there's a screenshot John Smith donated one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. I've never seen that before. I never seen

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Speaker 1: Democrats openly on a social media platform where they face cancelation,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they self dox themselves saying I've had it.

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Speaker 1: You know this is beyond party politics. But we know,

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Speaker 1: we know what if any other person had been accused

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Speaker 1: of misstating a business entry for their accounting seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in the they wouldn't be convicted of

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Speaker 1: thirty four made up felonies. The only reason is it's

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Speaker 1: President Trump. The only reason is he is the threat

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Speaker 1: of all threats to the UNI Party, to the Democrats

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Speaker 1: and the fake Conservative Republican in name only rhinos. That's

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Speaker 1: why he must be stopped. This is the only man

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Speaker 1: who isn't owned by any special interest group, not the unions,

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Speaker 1: not big farmer, not big oil, not the military industrial complex.

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Speaker 1: Nobody owns my former boss, and as such, he must

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Speaker 1: be stopped. And this is how they think they can

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Speaker 1: stop him. But you know the right thing about all

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Speaker 1: this is what do Americans love more than anything else,

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Speaker 1: you know, from Clint Eastward to you know, Dirty Harry,

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Speaker 1: all of those. We love outlaws, we love cowboys. Why

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Speaker 1: is hashtag outlaw president trending because they've made him an

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Speaker 1: outlaw and Americans love outlaws.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's incredible because even the term convicted felon, which

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Speaker 2: they were using, and I saw one of Thesaurus Son saying,

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Speaker 2: we've got to get this tag attached to Trump anytime

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Speaker 2: is mentioned, say convicted felon, they've completely changed the meaning

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Speaker 2: of that because that was trending on Twitter. But it

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Speaker 2: was trending because Republicans were pledging to vote for a

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Speaker 2: convicted felon, not because Democrats were using that term. So

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Speaker 2: in that way it has backfired certainly with the donations

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Speaker 2: that have been raised.

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Speaker 5: And I look forward to speaking to you again.

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Speaker 2: Before the November poll, Doctor Gorka, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your time this evening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you to check out my sab stack

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Speaker 1: and follow me on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: God bless you still to come.

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Speaker 2: The BBC is confused about what a woman is, and

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Speaker 2: so is the safety Commissioner Stephanie bash Journey's up next.

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Penny Show. Joining me now as

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Speaker 2: research fellow for a Women's Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian Stephanie.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Safety Commissioner Julian M Grant, who

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Speaker 2: seemed genuinely confused about the link between labeling factual claims

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Speaker 2: a hate crime and how that relates to a male.

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Speaker 5: Predator ending up in a women's prison.

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Speaker 15: And that deliberately misgendering someone online is a form of

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Speaker 15: gendered violence.

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Speaker 5: How do you justify these statements.

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Speaker 15: In a country where a male rapist and child's sex

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Speaker 15: offender can be placed in a women's prison and access

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Speaker 15: women's facilities.

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Speaker 14: I fail to see the connection to that specific incident.

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Speaker 14: A senator, that's kind of drying a long ball.

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Speaker 15: I would say, I'm guessing, given that you've referenced it's

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Speaker 15: seemingly a long vot draw, that you aren't aware of

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Speaker 15: the case that I've referred to. I've spoken about this

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Speaker 15: in the Senate before, where a man who was previously

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Speaker 15: convicted of raping his own six year old daughter committed

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Speaker 15: a serious sexual assault on a woman in Australia and

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Speaker 15: was referred to as a woman by the media and the.

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Speaker 5: Court before being placed in a women's prison.

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Speaker 14: What does this have to do with online safety, Senator.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think the question is is it your position

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Speaker 15: that referring is it the a Safety Commissions position that

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Speaker 15: referring to a male rapist or as a man or

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Speaker 15: as a male in an online forum, posting about it

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Speaker 15: on Facebook is misgendering and therefore a form of violence.

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Speaker 14: I think I will take that on notice. But I

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Speaker 14: am not required to provide a personal opinion, nor would

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Speaker 14: I an a case like this, nor would I make

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Speaker 14: an honor spite judgment about a particular live investigation without

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Speaker 14: the proper investigations being done. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 14: be drying on that, Senator, thank you.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want to make an on the spot judgment

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Speaker 2: about a live investigation.

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Speaker 5: What live investigation?

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Speaker 2: The male predator has been charged, convicted and is jailed

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Speaker 2: right now in a women's prison here in Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Is she just ignorant or is she engaging in a

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Speaker 5: bit of misdirection there?

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Speaker 2: Because I think the question was quite clear that you

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Speaker 2: can be called guilty of a hate crime, guilty of

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Speaker 2: hate speech if you misgender this person in discussing this

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Speaker 2: case and the injustice of this case.

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Speaker 9: Look, it's hard to tell whether she's ignorant or engaging

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Speaker 9: in misinformation when it comes to this particular case. What

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Speaker 9: I think it shows, though, is that she hasn't actually

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Speaker 9: considered the impact on women and girls when she puts

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Speaker 9: in these particular directives. If she had, make their position

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Speaker 9: indefensible at the end of the day, women have the

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Speaker 9: right to know if these predators are male or female.

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Speaker 9: It also shows that certain male patterns of behavior don't

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Speaker 9: change to suddenly start labeling all of this content as misinformation,

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Speaker 9: as not just misinformation, but as online violence. Now violence

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Speaker 9: is a crime, it's very serious, and I think it

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Speaker 9: shows that the Australian Human Rights Commissioner has been overrun

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Speaker 9: by activists and is no longer fit for purpose.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Jillian Mangrant and the bureaucrats she had with her answering

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Speaker 2: questions made it clear that they form these policies after

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Speaker 2: consultation with transactivists. Do they also speak to any women's

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Speaker 2: rights campaigners? Do they consult groups like yours?

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Speaker 9: No, they did not, and we fight very hard to

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Speaker 9: try and have our voices heard to put this other side.

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Speaker 9: We've been running titians. We've got a petition at the

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Speaker 9: moment on our website Women's from Australia or slash prisons.

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Speaker 9: We have met with every state and federal department. You

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Speaker 9: would think that if they are putting these policies in place,

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Speaker 9: they would be consulting broadly with the Victorian Human Rights

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Speaker 9: Commission or the other commissions in each state. If they haven't,

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Speaker 9: then there's an issue with their processes. If they have,

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Speaker 9: they are clearly and deliberately ignoring the impacts of these

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Speaker 9: policies to women and girls.

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Speaker 2: And she also said that she would not censor any

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Speaker 2: political commentary about trans or anti trans material, said that

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Speaker 2: was not her role, but as children's rights active ASTs

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Speaker 2: Billboard Chris asked, why do I need to hire a

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Speaker 2: lawyer in Australia right now? If Julian mngrand isn't censoring

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Speaker 2: political commentary about trans, that's a good question, Stephanie.

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Speaker 9: Ah, Look, I think that statement would fall foul of

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Speaker 9: the government's misinformation bill I might remember Jasmine's had her

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Speaker 9: post removed over the fact that she reported a male

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Speaker 9: saying a man could not breastfeed We've had raddicks who

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Speaker 9: have posted about trans footballers injuring women like there are

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Speaker 9: so many cases where she's weighed in on this debate

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Speaker 9: and tried to censor information that is factual and it

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Speaker 9: is relevant to the community safety. So that's a poorky reader.

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Speaker 5: And it's always in the one direction.

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Speaker 2: If other tweets were getting similarly censored or banned removed

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Speaker 2: from Twitter, I would go, Okay, I'm not in favor

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Speaker 2: of this, but at least it's relatively even handed. But

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Speaker 2: we see the most vile, disgusting things sent to women

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Speaker 2: who are fighting for women's only spaces, and somehow that

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Speaker 2: never crosses the Ease Safety Commissioner's desk that they're not

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Speaker 2: removed or there's no sort of campaign to protect the

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Speaker 2: those women. The online community, though, I've got to say,

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Speaker 2: is getting fed up with the bulk of the mainstream

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Speaker 2: media is politically correct reporting. The BBC tweeted an article

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Speaker 2: claiming that a seventy year old woman will be in

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Speaker 2: court over her husband's death. For that headline, copped a

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Speaker 2: community note on x formerly Twitter. It's a community notes

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Speaker 2: provide context. It's sort of like a fact checked and

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Speaker 2: it added this important clarification. The accused is a male

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Speaker 2: who identifies as a woman. This is a fairly important

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Speaker 2: context I would have thought, Stephanie.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely. I'd love to know who's running the BBC

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Speaker 9: newsroom because they're really behind the rest of the country.

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Speaker 9: If you have a look that man will not be

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Speaker 9: housed in a female prison. It is in the public

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Speaker 9: interest to know whether these predators are male or female.

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Speaker 12: It just provides them cover.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, what the headline had woman in the headline. So

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Speaker 2: if you're going to identify agenda, make it the right one.

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Speaker 5: Stephanie Bastien.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciate your time. Thank you for joining me tonight.

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Speaker 5: And that's it for me.

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Speaker 2: Up next is Newsnight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Good night,