Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live. Can I make The Night
Speaker 2: before the Budget is my favorite night of the year,
Speaker 2: not because it's about the budget, but because perhaps the
Speaker 2: most cringey thing that any politician goes through and puts
Speaker 2: the media through and puts the public through, is when
Speaker 2: the politicians sit there and read their own budget and
Speaker 2: mark their own homework. Now, they don't expect the audio
Speaker 2: to be shown anywhere because it's normally just pictures that
Speaker 2: end up on the six PM news. Tonight the most
Speaker 2: awkward I've ever seen, and he's just the dayste.
Speaker 3: I think we should be really proud of it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time.
Speaker 1: Great work.
Speaker 2: The full cringe in a month or two is time.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about some other things, including
Speaker 2: some updates to big stories that you may well not
Speaker 2: have heard about to this point in time. We'll get
Speaker 2: to some of the other stuff a bit later. Great
Speaker 2: show tonight as well, looking forward to a big debate
Speaker 2: with Senator Matt Can with Matt Cunningham from the Northern
Speaker 2: Territory to talk about this live export issue. I know
Speaker 2: it's massive for people watching us in Regional Australia. We
Speaker 2: get to that in the moment or two's time. But
Speaker 2: as we know, the Labor Party wants to censor the Internet,
Speaker 2: and they say that the video of the stabbing that
Speaker 2: happened a few weeks ago in Western Sydney must be banned.
Speaker 2: You cannot see it. It's too naughty, it's too evil,
Speaker 2: it will inspire too many other crazies. And the e
Speaker 2: safety Karen has told us that, in our own.
Speaker 4: Words, it is vital that we don't use social media
Speaker 4: as a tool for division and fear, but instead as
Speaker 4: an instrument of solidarity and social cohesion. Online spaces should
Speaker 4: be safe for everyone, no matter a person's culture, faith,
Speaker 4: or background.
Speaker 2: Yes, Karen, Yes Karen, Please don't cancel me off the Internet, Karen,
Speaker 2: Please don't tell me that what I say is misinformation,
Speaker 2: even though we show you the data each and every night. So,
Speaker 2: of course, rather than talking about radicalization and teen radicalization,
Speaker 2: and there's been like almost ten kids in the space
Speaker 2: of a couple of weeks that we now know are
Speaker 2: accused of horrible things, including a couple who are alleged
Speaker 2: to have actually gone on to do those horrible things.
Speaker 2: On no, no, no, everyone was talking about the real villain here,
Speaker 2: not radical Islam, not a hate preacher, but a billionaire
Speaker 2: from Texas.
Speaker 5: We're seeing megomaniacs like Elon Musk going to court to
Speaker 5: fight for the right to show terrorist content, alleged terrorist
Speaker 5: content on his platform.
Speaker 1: It just shows his arrogance.
Speaker 6: This is an egotist, totally out of touch.
Speaker 7: He clearly sees this as a vanity project for himself.
Speaker 8: El Must has no social conscience or conscience whatsoever. Quite frankly,
Speaker 8: the bloker should be jailed. The power that that man
Speaker 8: has because of that platform that he's on. It's got
Speaker 8: to stop. That bloke has no conscience. He's an absolute
Speaker 8: freaking disgrace. And there's nothing else to say about Alel Musk.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Karen's by the way, poor David Pocock, I
Speaker 2: say poor David Pocock, because I know he'll just do
Speaker 2: it the government wants in the end, and he'll vote
Speaker 2: for this. But even when Jackie Lamby's just going off
Speaker 2: like the Catherine Will, I'm just writing notes. Maybe no
Speaker 2: one will see that I'm here and agreeing with every
Speaker 2: word she says. Well, of course they went off to
Speaker 2: court and the e Safety Karen was able to get
Speaker 2: about sixty five videos taken down because if you saw them,
Speaker 2: somehow everything would go wrong. Well, today a court has
Speaker 2: now overturned the ban that the E Safety Karen wants
Speaker 2: on those videos. Now the thing is still playing out
Speaker 2: in court, so who knows what will happen at the
Speaker 2: end of the week. But today a federal court judge
Speaker 2: has rejected the E Safety Commissioner and her application to
Speaker 2: extend the injunction which would have forced X to continue
Speaker 2: blocking the content. Now, whether it's all been freed up
Speaker 2: tonight or not, we'll all wait and watch and see,
Speaker 2: but definitely, even for a day, the Karen's lost, and
Speaker 2: no doubt, Rather than talking about the realization that leads
Speaker 2: to the stabbings, we'll go back to talking about Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: but only after, of course, the greatest budget of all
Speaker 2: time has fixed everyone's financial problems. I'll get to it
Speaker 2: in a second. But also another little update today, another
Speaker 2: little change in what the official story is. This one
Speaker 2: in relation to the Bondai stabbing of a few weeks ago, when,
Speaker 2: as you know, six people, including the security guard died
Speaker 2: along the members of the public, murdered by a piece
Speaker 2: of work, who was then taken down by the police.
Speaker 2: Good to see, But in the days that followed we
Speaker 2: kept hearing over and over again that obviously this was
Speaker 2: a crime that was targeted against women, so much so
Speaker 2: that the police commissioner even said as.
Speaker 9: Such, it's obvious to me, it's obvious to detectives that
Speaker 9: seems to be an area of interest that the offender
Speaker 9: had focused on women and avoided the men.
Speaker 2: Now for obvious reasons. Five of the six people who
Speaker 2: died were women, so that's how the conclusion was made.
Speaker 2: But of course he stabbed more people who he ended
Speaker 2: up injuring, as well as those the lives of which
Speaker 2: he took well. Today, the Daily Telegraph has done an
Speaker 2: interesting follow up where they've spoken to an awful lot
Speaker 2: of people who still are reeling from the tragedy, the
Speaker 2: people who were there on the day, who were treating
Speaker 2: in the hospitals, the police that have been doing the
Speaker 2: best to investigate here. And I want to read something
Speaker 2: because it's a little change from what the official line is.
Speaker 2: The Telegraph can reveal that Isabel's police are no longer
Speaker 2: convinced that the killer, remember we don't use his name,
Speaker 2: who was a schizophrenic from Queensland was targeting women in
Speaker 2: his knife attack on April thirteenth, twenty twenty four. Quote.
Speaker 2: Do I think that he was targeting women?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: I don't. He stabbed three men and a baby. He
Speaker 2: was just running around stabbing people, say as a senior
Speaker 2: police officer who wasn't willing to put their name to it.
Speaker 2: But isn't it interesting because under the rules of misinformation,
Speaker 2: if you had questioned the narrative about what had happened
Speaker 2: in Bondai, well the official line from the police was
Speaker 2: that it was the targeting of women. But if at
Speaker 2: the time you simple hang on, he also killed a
Speaker 2: male security guard, and he stabbed a baby, and what
Speaker 2: about other people that he stabbed? Maybe this was just
Speaker 2: the act of an absolute lunatic who I am glad
Speaker 2: is no longer on the planet. Let's be very clear
Speaker 2: about it. And sometimes things are just random. They don't
Speaker 2: have the connections that other horrible events give us. Well,
Speaker 2: that of course would have been misinformation, which meant if
Speaker 2: you had posted that such a comment from a person
Speaker 2: like me on social media, this government wants to find
Speaker 2: social media companies for you posting what the government believes
Speaker 2: to not be the official line. Well, listen, an interesting
Speaker 2: now that the official line is starting to wobble, just
Speaker 2: as it did on COVID, just as it has multiple
Speaker 2: times before. One of the many reasons why we cannot
Speaker 2: let this government or any government in the future, censor
Speaker 2: the Internet. All right, let's get to the budget now.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night. We'll have a special edition in the program
Speaker 2: ninety minutes. It'll start at nine p thirty Eastern time.
Speaker 2: If you would like to join us, please do so.
Speaker 2: Because my practice and I've been lucky enough to be
Speaker 2: doing this for a long time in this dream job
Speaker 2: of mine, that you get the spin and the interviews,
Speaker 2: and all the journalists that have been stuck together are
Speaker 2: all sort of copying each other's homework. But at nine
Speaker 2: point thirty tomorrow night, at the process of people who
Speaker 2: are not sitting around and learning what's happening in camber. Instead,
Speaker 2: we look at it with our own eyes, without the
Speaker 2: people pouring sugar. And so we'll tell you the five
Speaker 2: things you need to know about the budget, plus a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of people that will debate it from all sides.
Speaker 2: So the great coverage tomorrow night, nine thirty. No offense
Speaker 2: to all the other the coverage, but after the main game,
Speaker 2: we are here to bring home the dessert. And it's
Speaker 2: going to be great tomorrow and night because we are
Speaker 2: across the tricks and I'll show you all the different
Speaker 2: tricks about how they've pulled off a surplus, what they're
Speaker 2: going to do with taxation, and whether or not they're
Speaker 2: actually going to do anything of cost of living. But
Speaker 2: it's all sales pitch, sales pitch, sales pitch from the
Speaker 2: government right now, and we showed you just moments ago.
Speaker 2: One of the excruciating little things the politicians put the
Speaker 2: media through because the media demand little footage to go
Speaker 2: with their pre budget speculation stories that run largely in
Speaker 2: the six pm news. That means that the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: and the Treasurer of the day, Liberal Labor whatever, they
Speaker 2: sit there and they flick around through the book. So
Speaker 2: this is a wonderful budget, isn't it. Because they have
Speaker 2: to talk because if they just sat there and didn't
Speaker 2: talk and it looked weird, and if they just sat
Speaker 2: there in mouthed fake words, it'd be weird. So they
Speaker 2: just say stuff on the assumption that no one will
Speaker 2: hear it. It's cringey. It's awkward, it's weird, and this
Speaker 2: year it's the weirdest it's ever been. Bahold the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister and the Treasurer patting themselves on the back.
Speaker 6: That's a that's a great paject provide cost of living
Speaker 6: support whilst also having that eye on the economy of the.
Speaker 5: Future and a great budget for women. All those decisions
Speaker 5: will talk on women's safety, thousing, the care economy are
Speaker 5: the really important ones around driving economic equality for women.
Speaker 3: I hope we should be really proud of it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time. It's
Speaker 3: got a lot of help for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: but also some investment in the future, and so I
Speaker 3: think the whole team can be really proud of it.
Speaker 6: Decisions we make today can set us up the next
Speaker 6: decade and beyond.
Speaker 2: I could play it over and over and over again
Speaker 2: as the ultimate metaphor of the bubble within the bubble
Speaker 2: within the bubble that of course exists in camera. But
Speaker 2: as you know, the treasurer of things that we're going
Speaker 2: to be able to as a country cut inflation faster
Speaker 2: than the Reserve Bank. And this essentially matters, not just
Speaker 2: because it's a number. But because it's the Reserve Bank
Speaker 2: who makes the decision about whether or not they do
Speaker 2: or don't leave interest rates, put them up or hopefully
Speaker 2: if you gets crossed, to pull them down. Jim Chalmers says,
Speaker 2: we can fix it all by Christmas.
Speaker 11: So the main difference is not necessarily a difference of opinion,
Speaker 11: but a difference of timing. And so because Governor Bullock
Speaker 11: released hers before the budget and because ours will be
Speaker 11: released with the budget, it means it can take into
Speaker 11: consideration the spending restraint that we're showing, the way that
Speaker 11: we're designing our cost of living help.
Speaker 2: But for the person who's actually making the decisions about
Speaker 2: interest rates, remember they say if we can get to
Speaker 2: between two and three percent inflation, then they won't do
Speaker 2: anything more when it comes to interest rates in terms
Speaker 2: of increasing and then slowly but surely will hold and
Speaker 2: then start to go down. But remember she doesn't think
Speaker 2: we get there by Christmas. In July, she doesn't think
Speaker 2: we'll get there by Christmas. She doesn't think that we'll
Speaker 2: get there by the summer cricket season. She doesn't think
Speaker 2: it'll be there until even state of origin time next year.
Speaker 12: Inflation at the moment is still declining, but it's declining
Speaker 12: less quickly than we thought, So at the moment we
Speaker 12: still think that we can make our target of coming
Speaker 12: back into target range by twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: So who do you believe, the politician who's just going
Speaker 2: to tell you they're doing something about cost of living
Speaker 2: but won't actually change anything in your life, or the
Speaker 2: person who's going to have to deal with the consequences
Speaker 2: of a budget that will find ways to pump even
Speaker 2: more money into the economy, thus becoming stimulatory and potentially
Speaker 2: increasing inflation at the same time petrol prices where they
Speaker 2: continue to go up, but the taxation and it won't
Speaker 2: change at all, because of course the government is absolutely
Speaker 2: interested in cost of living. For his point, Barnaby Joyce
Speaker 2: didn't miss haven't we.
Speaker 10: Heard this yarn before on basically everything. Well, you've got
Speaker 10: to make a choice. Do you think the RBA got
Speaker 10: it wrong with their PhDs and all their stuff and
Speaker 10: the Treasure you got it right, and the Treasure got
Speaker 10: it right.
Speaker 2: The Labor Party got it right.
Speaker 10: I mean the guy the promises are falling to the grid.
Speaker 13: There's a few PhDs, the parameters are falling to the
Speaker 13: great politics you PhD in politics, not in economics. The
Speaker 13: promises are falling to the ground like the leaves in autumn.
Speaker 2: The question everybody's going.
Speaker 10: To ask themselves is this it's their third budget? Is
Speaker 10: your life better now than it was when the Labor
Speaker 10: Party came into power?
Speaker 2: And who could possibly say that? It is? An elbow does?
Speaker 2: And twelve interest rate rises, not to mention all of
Speaker 2: the other issues we talk about uphill and down dal
Speaker 2: This is where the rubber hits the road, where the
Speaker 2: BS stops. Now. The BS will continue, of course tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and they'll pretend that they've come up with something. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you by nine point thirty tomorrow night, whether they've
Speaker 2: delivered it or not. Through gritted teeth, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: that they've done the right thing, if they have done
Speaker 2: the right thing. But I think we both know they're
Speaker 2: just going to say they've done the right thing. So
Speaker 2: where do the economists sit on this? There's a blow
Speaker 2: called Chris Richardson. He's as much of a feature around
Speaker 2: budget time as any politician. He's been around for decades, constantly,
Speaker 2: always in and around the media. So which way does
Speaker 2: he thinks things are going to go?
Speaker 14: When governments give you a subsidy, they make your electricity
Speaker 14: or your rent or your chunk cheaper. That does lower
Speaker 14: measured inflation. There's a direct impact. The Bureau Stats tells
Speaker 14: us about that. But it also gives families more money
Speaker 14: to spend. That's why governments are doing it. That extra spending,
Speaker 14: that indirect channel can actually make inflation worse rather than better.
Speaker 14: So great that governments are rearranging the pain. It's less
Speaker 14: clear that they are reducing the pain of inflation.
Speaker 2: So that's the polite way of saying the Reserve Bank,
Speaker 2: of course, the puffery and telling us how amazing formerly Grimjim,
Speaker 2: Now Jim from Queensland, who's here to help you. We
Speaker 2: talked about this in some detail last night. All the
Speaker 2: puffy suck up pieces. Oh here he us buying flowers
Speaker 2: on Mother's Day? Oh are the cameras here? How did
Speaker 2: that happen? Well, interestingly, the flowers are actually a little
Speaker 2: bit of a metaphor because, just like everything else, flowers
Speaker 2: have gone up since this blow became the treasurer. Somebody
Speaker 2: went and actually had a chat to a bunch of
Speaker 2: lass who came back and said, among other things, everything
Speaker 2: has increased in price, the cost of growing the flowers
Speaker 2: and Australia has gone up, wages have gone up, souper's
Speaker 2: gone up, casual rates have gone up, especially after COVID,
Speaker 2: which is why the cost of the flowers that the
Speaker 2: Treasurer is going to give himself along with the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister and the mean girl for how amazing their budget is.
Speaker 2: But the reality is of you with somebody who bought
Speaker 2: flowers yesterday. You may notice they're a little higher than
Speaker 2: they were a couple of years ago. Of course, nothing
Speaker 2: to do with the government at all, nothing at all.
Speaker 2: And then there were the puff piece. There was this
Speaker 2: particularly unique puff piece in the Cydny Morning Herald where
Speaker 2: they did coverage on the coverage of the puff pieces.
Speaker 2: So think about how sort of you know, Chris Nolan
Speaker 2: inception this is starting, you know, the dreams within a dream. Well,
Speaker 2: this is the coverage within the coverage of the Treasurer. Now,
Speaker 2: this of course was an interview who did with SBS
Speaker 2: that we showed you last time when he was shown
Speaker 2: people who were dealing with the cost of living. But
Speaker 2: let's get to the puff Jim Charmer's Sunday Run beguns.
Speaker 2: It begins at three forty six am, and it's a
Speaker 2: warm up for the budget now in it. Jim Charmers
Speaker 2: has four affirmations scrawled across the top of his talking
Speaker 2: points forty one, sh hh, and wh and these are
Speaker 2: the guiding principles of the greatest treasurer of all time.
Speaker 2: Sh means steady hands, and that's because they need to
Speaker 2: keep inflation in check. HH stands for hard head, a
Speaker 2: prompt about the need to find value for money, while
Speaker 2: wh is warm heart. He needs to be reminded about
Speaker 2: warm heart, a reminder that a government plans to do
Speaker 2: and must deliver cost of living in the budget. So
Speaker 2: because he writes notes on top of the notes about
Speaker 2: the lies they're going to sell you on the budget.
Speaker 2: Oh he's so well prepared. Thank goodness. Doctor Charmers with
Speaker 2: his scalpel is here to help for coverage tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: nine to thirty here on Sky News. Believe me be here.
Speaker 2: If you only watch one pul Marie Live a year,
Speaker 2: that's the one to watch nine point thirty tomorrow night
Speaker 2: and be there for the whole ninety minutes because I'll
Speaker 2: have plenty to say. Now we all know that Stephen
Speaker 2: Miles is fingers crossed headed for the political wood chipper
Speaker 2: towards the end of the year. But let's be honest,
Speaker 2: queens and Labour Party is good at changing the subject.
Speaker 2: They've won elections they definitely shouldn't have. But certainly when
Speaker 2: you look at the west Ips switch by election and
Speaker 2: plenty of others, there are people, no matter how desperate
Speaker 2: he looks with his Queensland Maroon's add on, they just
Speaker 2: walk past him. No, I'm not voting Labor, I'm not
Speaker 2: a bugger off, but not interested. So he's doing everything
Speaker 2: he possibly can to somehow pull this one out of
Speaker 2: the fire. And he thinks that he's going to be
Speaker 2: able to do what they weren't able to do in Canberra,
Speaker 2: and that's called the Supermarkets of Australia toward that he
Speaker 2: will be able to single handedly prove, in a hand
Speaker 2: selected committee dominated by the Labor Party in the Queensland
Speaker 2: Parliament what they weren't able to do in Canberra. Now,
Speaker 2: remember when it was in Canberra, the CEOs of Woolies
Speaker 2: and coals. They got a tongue lashing from the Greens
Speaker 2: swearing in everything. Reality, of course, nothing changes, nothing will changed,
Speaker 2: But they all had their little moment in the sun
Speaker 2: and so it was the inquiry was there in Brisbane today.
Speaker 2: Now Stephen Miles was all fine up and ready to
Speaker 2: go because they were going to finally put the sword
Speaker 2: to these evil, evil supermarkets.
Speaker 15: Queens Landers would like to hear, is a supermarket boss
Speaker 15: say we could have done better?
Speaker 2: And that's the weirdest part. He's on the committee. Now.
Speaker 2: Normally parliamentary committees are backbenches when it comes to the
Speaker 2: opposition shadow ministers, but essentially the Premier or the Minister
Speaker 2: doesn't sit on the panel. But because he wants the
Speaker 2: whole background on the six PM news, him sitting there
Speaker 2: in the Parliament waving his fingers at the CEOs that
Speaker 2: somehow magically the people of Queensland will work out, Oh oh,
Speaker 2: he's on our side, because you know he wears the
Speaker 2: maron's cap. Seriously. Now, as for the actual bosses of
Speaker 2: the supermarkets, they've told him to go jump. None of
Speaker 2: the CEOs are willing to sit there and go through
Speaker 2: the tongue lashing that happened at the Federal so they've
Speaker 2: actually sent a whole bunch of underlings. But of course,
Speaker 2: the fact that the CEO of Coles and woollis, wasn't
Speaker 2: there to be fingerwave that by giggles. Oh, he's very annoyed.
Speaker 15: What we've seen from the supermarkets is they just don't
Speaker 15: seem to get it. They just don't seem to get
Speaker 15: how the impact of their prices and their practices are
Speaker 15: hurting Queensland households and hurting Queensland farmers. In particular Coals
Speaker 15: is thumbing their nose at Queenslander's thumbing their nose at
Speaker 15: the Queensland Parliament.
Speaker 2: Just a quick mental note, think about he is comments
Speaker 2: there about Coles that particularly Coals is causing trouble for people.
Speaker 2: Just put a pinion as for who's actually representing the supermarkets.
Speaker 2: They've got high ranking people who are based in Queensland
Speaker 2: that are turning up in front of it. The supermarket
Speaker 2: giants have elected to cends and your staff with government
Speaker 2: and industry relations people, the head of Public Affairs that
Speaker 2: were there on the behalf of Coles, the Chief Commercial
Speaker 2: Officer and the Queensland direction Director of Woolies were the
Speaker 2: ones that were sitting down. So there were people that
Speaker 2: were willing to cop the tongue lashing, but it's not
Speaker 2: as sexy as yelling at the CEOs. But interestingly, another
Speaker 2: person who was on the inquiry today is the shadow
Speaker 2: Agriculture minister. The shadow Agriculture Minister is Tony Perodi. Had
Speaker 2: to double check his name and he was there asking question,
Speaker 2: but he was booted out of the inquiry that Stephen
Speaker 2: Miles is sitting on as well. That's dominated by the
Speaker 2: Labor Party in the Lower House. And it is again
Speaker 2: a show trial because he tried to introduce a photo today.
Speaker 2: Before I show you the photo, he was told he
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to do it. That was therefore ruled disorderly.
Speaker 2: Therefore he was booted out of the room. You cannot
Speaker 2: ask any more questions for at least sixty minutes. Why
Speaker 2: because the photo was this photo, the photo of the
Speaker 2: bloke who said what about Coles. This photo is not
Speaker 2: from five years ago and from five weeks ago. It's
Speaker 2: barely from five days ago. This was when he was
Speaker 2: at Beef Week last week in Rockhampton and he's cooking
Speaker 2: up a storm with a bunch of school kids. Had
Speaker 2: an event sponsored by carls Now for food safety. Maybe
Speaker 2: he had that wear the hat. Perhaps he could have
Speaker 2: turned it around though, So can you believe that the
Speaker 2: show trial is so thin in its political objections at
Speaker 2: objectives that someone trying to introduce a photo that kind
Speaker 2: of contradicts the I Hate Coles of Stephen Miles is
Speaker 2: booted out of the committee for a full hour. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they're committed to the big issues, aren't they, the Miles government. Now,
Speaker 2: whether you go to Cole's, Woolli's aldi IgA or whatever
Speaker 2: corner store, can you do me a favor? And I
Speaker 2: did say this four years ago, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: say it again now, even though the cost of that
Speaker 2: item probably is more than it was four years ago.
Speaker 2: Can you get some disinfectant because we're going to need
Speaker 2: it after we get rid of this mob towards the
Speaker 2: end of the year. In Queensland, it's up to you, Queensland.
Speaker 2: I made the case before, it didn't work, but I
Speaker 2: reckon the case is going to land, and land hard
Speaker 2: in the form of Queenslanders with a size nine into
Speaker 2: the backside of this bloke and all of the other
Speaker 2: fools that are with him. Youth crime in Queensland and
Speaker 2: everywhere else in the country is quite a substantial issue,
Speaker 2: one that, of course politicians aren't particularly interested in dealing
Speaker 2: with because we have despite the fact that there's so
Speaker 2: many teenagers involved in all sorts of things right literally
Speaker 2: from terrorism stuff in New South Wales and of course
Speaker 2: in Western Australia, all the way through to the car
Speaker 2: thefts in regional Australia. But of course there is a
Speaker 2: big move on not to get rid of youth crime.
Speaker 2: But the idea is that we shouldn't call it a
Speaker 2: crime anymore if a person is of a certain age. Now,
Speaker 2: for years in Australia, the age of criminal responsibility has
Speaker 2: been ten. Anything under you can't go before anything, you
Speaker 2: will not be punished. But a magical way of making
Speaker 2: the number of young people who get locked up for
Speaker 2: the crimes they commit, not falsely accused they commit, means
Speaker 2: that we should move the number from ten to twelve,
Speaker 2: and in some states move it up to fourteen. So
Speaker 2: the crime still happen, we just won't hold anyone responsible
Speaker 2: for it. And well meaning organizations have websites and campaigns
Speaker 2: to raise the a and in Victoria they are starting
Speaker 2: to make these changes where right now the age of
Speaker 2: criminal responsibility is in is twelve. It'll move up to
Speaker 2: fourteen by twenty twenty seven. And as you can see
Speaker 2: the same will happen next year in the Act. Now
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure on every other state government,
Speaker 2: but they're not bending at this moment in time. But
Speaker 2: I want to talk an event that took place in
Speaker 2: the beautiful city of Dubbo over the weekend. I love Dubbo,
Speaker 2: been there plenty of times we did in ourtown there.
Speaker 2: We were there for royal tours. This is a beautiful
Speaker 2: part of Australia. Shout out to everyone who's watching us
Speaker 2: right now. In Dubbo. And on the weekend they had
Speaker 2: their big show, the Big Agricultural Show, one of the
Speaker 2: big moments in town. All the usual things from animal
Speaker 2: events to craft events, you know, like the Easter show
Speaker 2: where the Echo or the Melbourne Show. But of course
Speaker 2: this one is for the local area in and around Dubbo. Well,
Speaker 2: a horrible crime is alleged to a taken place there
Speaker 2: with a sixteen year old had a knife held to
Speaker 2: his throat. Apparently this was all in part of a robbery.
Speaker 2: Now that matter again we'll be dealt with by the courts.
Speaker 2: But something that was found out within two hours of
Speaker 2: that particular incident was that there was a stabbing list
Speaker 2: that had been put together by an eleven year old
Speaker 2: and a twelve year old of people that they were
Speaker 2: apparently thinking about going after. The boys aged eleven and twelve,
Speaker 2: handed themselves into police on Saturday, and they admitted to
Speaker 2: committing the hoax list they now call of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four stab Now, I wanted to put this in context.
Speaker 2: If they had putten that stab list together in Victoria
Speaker 2: or the Act, the eleven year old would have no responsibility.
Speaker 2: By next year. In the Act, both of them would
Speaker 2: not be punished for even committing the stabbing, let alone
Speaker 2: the hoax list of the people to potentially be stabbed.
Speaker 2: That is the consequences when people say we must change
Speaker 2: the age of responsibility because too many people, and particularly
Speaker 2: Indigenous kids, end up in court. Now, while that may
Speaker 2: well be the case that there are too many Indigenous
Speaker 2: kids that end up in court, and I don't know
Speaker 2: what the cultural heritage is of anyone involved in what
Speaker 2: happened at the Double Show over the weekend, the reality
Speaker 2: is that we would like to live in a society
Speaker 2: where if you draw up a list of people you're
Speaker 2: going to stab, let alone, if they went on to
Speaker 2: stab that, the person would be held criminally responsible. But
Speaker 2: right now, if it happened in or Sorry, in the
Speaker 2: next couple of years, if it happened in Victoria, happened
Speaker 2: in the Act, nothing would happen. Does anyone honestly think
Speaker 2: that that is a reasonable system? I don't big news
Speaker 2: today when it comes to breast cancer. There was a
Speaker 2: very interestingnnouncement which came out and was put up in
Speaker 2: the Financial Review who focused on this today, that there
Speaker 2: may well be a system that would be able to
Speaker 2: reduce the risk of breast cancer by fifty percent. Now
Speaker 2: this is huge news because breast cancer kills thousands of women,
Speaker 2: a few blokes as well, but mainly of course women,
Speaker 2: each and every year. It may well be the reason
Speaker 2: why this Mother's Day Mum was no longer around. So
Speaker 2: I were very interested in this story and it says
Speaker 2: that while the scientists sound, it's not widely known that
Speaker 2: anti hormone drugs can apparently reduce the risk of breast cancer.
Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, a Professor Phillips began working on a
Speaker 2: new system at the Peter McCallum Cancer Center in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: It is now functioning and open to women across Australia.
Speaker 2: Now there is a website that I would like to
Speaker 2: give you, and I would like the women of Australia
Speaker 2: to go and fill out the survey. Now again, I
Speaker 2: know only what I've read here on the in the articles,
Speaker 2: but the website and I'll find the exact website detail
Speaker 2: for you in a moment or two. Is time. I
Speaker 2: thought we're going to show that, but that is in
Speaker 2: fact the front page of it. Well, this is an
Speaker 2: opportunity for the women of Australia to reach out and
Speaker 2: potentially be able to reduce their risk of breast cancer.
Speaker 2: If that can happen by fifty percent, then we are
Speaker 2: going to be living in a much better country with
Speaker 2: much healthier people, and all of us would be united
Speaker 2: in how important that particularly would be going into the future.
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Speaker 2: I make sure that the details are up on our socials.
Speaker 2: But I apologize. I wanted to tell it, not just
Speaker 2: show it, but that is what is in fact in front.
Speaker 2: In the next hour or so, Donald Trumpell headed back
Speaker 2: to court for yet another week in the WHO knew
Speaker 2: what and when about the document's case in and around
Speaker 2: the hush money payments that made its way to Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 2: This week's the biggest week yet because Michael Cohen, the
Speaker 2: former lawyer of the bloke who was being paid in
Speaker 2: the installments, well, he will be testifying about whether those
Speaker 2: installments were knowingly a way of falsifying documents or the
Speaker 2: defense will be able to poke many holes in a
Speaker 2: bloke who has gone to jail for lying in the past,
Speaker 2: that being Michael Cohen. But as I told you last night,
Speaker 2: there was a rally with almost one hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: in New Jersey. Now, this is a state that is
Speaker 2: a hard blue state that Republicans are not going to win.
Speaker 2: But if people were willing to turn up or travel,
Speaker 2: that's a good thing for Donald Trump. But even those
Speaker 2: of us that support Trump would love him to beat
Speaker 2: Biden are a little confused why he said this when
Speaker 2: he was talking about how the world is emptying their
Speaker 2: mental asylums and sending those people to become supposed refugees
Speaker 2: in America. Sailance of the lamb?
Speaker 16: Has anyone ever said a silence of the lamp? The
Speaker 16: late Great Hannibal letter. He is a wonderful man. He
Speaker 16: oftentimes would have a friend for dinner. Remember the last
Speaker 16: excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner?
Speaker 2: Is this, poor doctor, I'm.
Speaker 16: About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations,
Speaker 16: the late Great Hannibal Elector. We have people that are
Speaker 16: being released into our country that we don't runt in
Speaker 16: our country.
Speaker 2: The late Great Hannibal Lector, who clearly doesn't exist, never existed,
Speaker 2: but apparently as an example of the mental asylums that
Speaker 2: have been I don't want Biden to win. I support
Speaker 2: the idea of Trump returning to the presidency, but he
Speaker 2: might have to do slightly better than that. But I
Speaker 2: get it there's a lot in his mind right now,
Speaker 2: especially this week. You'll get all the details tomorrow morning
Speaker 2: with Peter stephanovickin first edition Quick Break Back, with more
Speaker 2: lots of talk about including for Regional Australia and everyone
Speaker 2: else who remembers when the Gillard government watched four Corners
Speaker 2: one night and then just stopped the live export industry. Well,
Speaker 2: this mob in Canberra, still living in the same bubble,
Speaker 2: still trying to double down, and the bad decisions of
Speaker 2: the past day are going to get rid of live export.
Speaker 2: What's it going to mean? We'll talk about it next
Speaker 2: here on Paul Morray Life. I'm excited. We've got Sam
Speaker 2: Crosby with us in the man Cave and he is
Speaker 2: going to defend everything his government's ever done, ever will
Speaker 2: do absolutely speakable. Well, you might have fun here because
Speaker 2: Senator mac Canavan of course is here as well, joining
Speaker 2: us from Camber and the lead up to the budget
Speaker 2: and the great Matt Cunningham stand up one of our favorites,
Speaker 2: the best in the business in the territory, and I
Speaker 2: think i'd put him in top five in the country
Speaker 2: for journos. Mate, I'm sorry to put that weight in
Speaker 2: your saddle bag, but I love you and I think
Speaker 2: you're one of the best in the business, not just
Speaker 2: here at Sky All right, pleasantry is over. So last
Speaker 2: week we had the Prime Minister with the sort of
Speaker 2: Seemi new hat walking around Beef week in Rockhampton. I'm
Speaker 2: a friend of the farmer. Tyde loves beef. I'll eventually
Speaker 2: get to a good impersonation, but you get the point.
Speaker 2: Did you know that you grew up in a housing
Speaker 2: commut was a terrible story, terrible story. Anyway, he's running
Speaker 2: around with the farmers right pretending I'm a friend of
Speaker 2: the farmer, and he waits until a few days later
Speaker 2: and assuming that the farmers are so stupid that they
Speaker 2: don't have access to the internets or television or radio,
Speaker 2: and they will completely be okay that the same bloke
Speaker 2: who pretends is the friend of the farmer at Beefweak
Speaker 2: is now going to ban live exports. Now. He was
Speaker 2: around the cabinet table when it made its overnight decision
Speaker 2: after watching Four Corners back in twenty ten. And as
Speaker 2: we know labor, it always goes back to the same
Speaker 2: bad idea. They've just come up with a different way
Speaker 2: of doing it now, Senator. The claim is that this
Speaker 2: is going to be okay because we're not just turn
Speaker 2: it off tomorrow. We're doing it over a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of years, which means that currently the cattle farmers of
Speaker 2: Northern Australia will be able to just slowly but surely
Speaker 2: turning themselves into wind farms and that'll be okay.
Speaker 17: Well, while Paul, this's decision just at this stage affects
Speaker 17: those sheep farmers that are exposed to the live sheep industry.
Speaker 17: The concern is of course that the animal activists, animal
Speaker 17: welfare activists won't stop as sheep, they'll move on to cattle.
Speaker 17: But it is a cowardly move by this governor. As
Speaker 17: you said, the promise was there in Rockhampton last week
Speaker 17: at Beef Week, at a collection of farms and grazies
Speaker 17: who were very interested in this decision. A lot of
Speaker 17: people talking about it because as I say, they are
Speaker 17: very concerned about the flow and effects of the cattle industry.
Speaker 17: And I'm sure we'll find out perhaps true estimates and
Speaker 17: estimates when this decision was made, and I'm sure it
Speaker 17: probably was made before the promist was there, so he
Speaker 17: knew he had it in his back pocket, but he
Speaker 17: was just cowardy.
Speaker 1: Is gutless, there's no other word for it.
Speaker 17: It's gutless not to tell them upfront while he was
Speaker 17: with them, as you say, wearing the big hat.
Speaker 1: And then he scurried away and they.
Speaker 17: Dropped this announcement out over the weekend just ahead of
Speaker 17: the budget, hoping the budget swamps it all. But thousands
Speaker 17: of jobs now in West Australia on the line. The
Speaker 17: w Premier, the labor WA Premier, objects to Labour's policy.
Speaker 1: This is going to cruel a whole industry.
Speaker 17: And why do we need to shut down a whole
Speaker 17: industry when if we want to tackle inflation we have
Speaker 17: to become more productive.
Speaker 1: We have to invest in parts.
Speaker 17: Of our economy that are making things that are making
Speaker 17: money for our country, that are producing jobs and as
Speaker 17: enormous demand for our high quality live sheep. They've got
Speaker 17: an excellent animal welfare record where you know, there's been
Speaker 17: a few contraventions, but they've been fixed excellent in the
Speaker 17: last few years.
Speaker 1: There's no reason to do this.
Speaker 17: The only reason Labor Party's doing this is because they
Speaker 17: need the preferences of the animal welfare parties. So this
Speaker 17: is about protecting the jobs of Labor Party and they're
Speaker 17: going to sacrifice thousands of jobs in Western Australia to
Speaker 17: do it.
Speaker 2: Sam, I'll get you in a second. But Matt, you remember,
Speaker 2: you lived it. You reported it right when it was
Speaker 2: about cattle and it was the Northern Territory. About what
Speaker 2: those consequences were. I'm completely aware that it's about sheep,
Speaker 2: and it's more so specifically in and around Western Australia
Speaker 2: where there's going to be particular issues. But you've seen
Speaker 2: this play out before. But if they say it's just
Speaker 2: a little more notice and a little more time, then
Speaker 2: it will all end up being Okay, what's your sense of.
Speaker 17: It, it's already having a massive end.
Speaker 2: I think there, I'm going to call you, Senator and Matt, Matt, Matt,
Speaker 2: you're turning down.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a sader.
Speaker 7: I don't think there was a more I don't think
Speaker 7: there was a more devastating decision that a government made
Speaker 7: that impacted the Northern Territory than this one. And people
Speaker 7: are still talking about it today, some thirteen years on.
Speaker 7: Pool In fact, a lot of the people who were
Speaker 7: affected by the Gillard government's band on live exports are
Speaker 7: still waiting for this government to agree to the settlement
Speaker 7: of the class action that has been running now for
Speaker 7: more than a decade. But I think the bigger concern
Speaker 7: here is that now that live cheap exports the government's
Speaker 7: committed to banning them, that live cattle is next. And
Speaker 7: you get an indication of what's coming from a tweet
Speaker 7: today from the TLMP Kylieh Tink, who congratulates the government
Speaker 7: for doing this, says it's something that people of North
Speaker 7: Sydney have been calling for since before the election, and
Speaker 7: then goes on to say it's disappointing though that we
Speaker 7: have to wait four years and there's still no plan
Speaker 7: to end live beef cattle exports. That tweet will send
Speaker 7: a shiver down the spine of every live catle ex
Speaker 7: order in the Northern Territory, and the prospect of the
Speaker 7: Albanese government going into minority government at the next election
Speaker 7: will absolutely scare the living daylights out of them, because
Speaker 7: it was in twenty eleven when the Gillard government was
Speaker 7: relying on the Greens and Independence to stay in power
Speaker 7: that they made that original decision. And God only knows.
Speaker 7: People will be thinking here, what happens if there is
Speaker 7: a minority government supported by the Greens and the Tills
Speaker 7: come twenty twenty five, what will happen to live Experts
Speaker 7: from the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2: Agree animal welfare and the politics of it again, many
Speaker 2: people elected two parliaments exclusively on animal welfare. But by
Speaker 2: doing it over a long period of time it may
Speaker 2: well taper, but it doesn't change the financial pain for
Speaker 2: the people whose life is completely linked.
Speaker 18: No, if you do it well, it won't have much pain.
Speaker 18: At all, because you're going to process the meat in Australia.
Speaker 18: That's the whole idea. Right, you give them four years
Speaker 18: and I'm sure that four years then becomes full or.
Speaker 1: Vice already suffering.
Speaker 18: But the idea is that you process the meat here
Speaker 18: in Australia, and I'm all in favor of it.
Speaker 2: Indonesia they will kill the cattle live. The halal killing
Speaker 2: means they don't want it boxed here.
Speaker 18: Sure, but you can do halal here. You can do
Speaker 18: halal here. Hallal is pretty easy, right. You use a
Speaker 18: knife for whatever you've done the thing. You use a knife,
Speaker 18: you say a prayer, you face at East Order. It's
Speaker 18: pretty easy to do to get halal certification wherever.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 18: But the point is you can do it here in Australia,
Speaker 18: and that means jobs. If you go to Konne banner Brandt,
Speaker 18: which is a little town out in Yep, they had
Speaker 18: they had an abati get closed down there, I don't know,
Speaker 18: twenty ten, twenty twelve, something like that, and it decimated
Speaker 18: the town, decimated of the town. And these are the
Speaker 18: little sort of towns that we're talking about. If you
Speaker 18: can build an abati there that employs forty fifty people.
Speaker 18: They're good jobs, they're permanent jobs. Why wouldn't we be
Speaker 18: in favor of that, And yeah, okay, the animal right issues, it's.
Speaker 1: Just demonstrate so why not.
Speaker 17: This just demonstrates, This demonstrates why the Labor Party are
Speaker 17: so hopeless of business. The customer wants the live sheet,
Speaker 17: that's what they want. In the Middle East, they want
Speaker 17: them for religious reasons. They want them because they don't
Speaker 17: have as much refrigeration as we do. So the box
Speaker 17: beef is not going to do the box sheep, I
Speaker 17: should say, it's not going to do them any good
Speaker 17: she box sheep meat. And so already sam these countries
Speaker 17: in the Middle East are going to South America. They
Speaker 17: can get the sheep elsewhere, they can go elsewhere, they
Speaker 17: don't need us, and they're already doing that. And so
Speaker 17: if you knew anything about the sheep industry right now,
Speaker 17: you know it's on his knees because BEF well before
Speaker 17: the government shut the date in twenty twenty eight, the
Speaker 17: market's already shifting and sheep price is now at record lows.
Speaker 17: Grazes are having to shoot their flocks. It's terrible, it's
Speaker 17: very sad. It's having a flow on effect. I spoke
Speaker 17: to grazes at Beef Weeak last week. Some of them
Speaker 17: are in beef and sheep and it's already having a
Speaker 17: flow on effect to sheep prices in Eastern markets, just
Speaker 17: as the live cattle band did. This is a complete
Speaker 17: and after disas so there won't be those jobs there
Speaker 17: in the avatars because the customer doesn't want them. And
Speaker 17: if you're in business, Sam, if you're successful in business,
Speaker 17: you've got to meet the customer demand. And there's no
Speaker 17: reason we can't do that with strong animal welfare standards
Speaker 17: as we've been doing in a live sheep band. This
Speaker 17: is a political ban, not one on any kind of science.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to again Matt in Darwin. So
Speaker 2: we're being very clear with everyone here, Senators, future senators, whatever,
Speaker 2: we're all here, No, no appreciate it. So, Matt, you've
Speaker 2: obviously seen federal politics through the lens of the Northern
Speaker 2: Territory for a long period of time and you know
Speaker 2: that budget night is this big carry on and then
Speaker 2: you've got to find you know what's in it for
Speaker 2: the Northern Territory often not much? But what do you
Speaker 2: think about the pregame here where the pregame is all,
Speaker 2: they're going to do something about costly. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: The rabbit that he's going to have to pull out
Speaker 2: of the hat is going to be taller than Sam.
Speaker 2: And tall is Sam. He's a very statuesque gentleman, Okay,
Speaker 2: but there is no rabbit the size of Sam that
Speaker 2: a treasure is going to be able to pull out
Speaker 2: of a hat. So has this government already kind of
Speaker 2: spun itself into a corner of expectations?
Speaker 7: Well, he's talking of a big game, is he, And
Speaker 7: I think it's pretty brave. Bab's admirable. I don't know,
Speaker 7: we'll see whether I guess time will tell, but he's
Speaker 7: pretty brave saying that, you know, we're going to have
Speaker 7: an inflation back between two and three percent by Christmas,
Speaker 7: because I'm not sure how many levers the government can
Speaker 7: actually pull to make this happen, And the only ones
Speaker 7: that I think they're able to pull and they're going
Speaker 7: to pull in the budget would perhaps, you know, cause
Speaker 7: inflation to rise rather than come down. So you know,
Speaker 7: i'd be backing Michelle Bullock over Jim Charmers when it
Speaker 7: comes to where inflation is going to be come December.
Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen you go through the pomp and
Speaker 7: ceremony that surrounds the budget and to be fair at
Speaker 7: some level to the Treasurer and the Prime Minister, it
Speaker 7: is the media that insists that the politicians show.
Speaker 1: Up for these.
Speaker 2: Most of them would rather not be.
Speaker 7: But it never looks good for anyone really.
Speaker 2: Okay, bring back the awkward grab team. All right, come on, James,
Speaker 2: go find it. We're going to play it again, because
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like, you know, what's the babaduk
Speaker 2: or something. As soon as you mention it, it must appear.
Speaker 2: So if I say it three times, was that I
Speaker 2: never forget. But still what we're talking about here, the
Speaker 2: super awkward wonderful moment when they're sort of posing for
Speaker 2: the cameras. They don't just go so they have to
Speaker 2: sort of say things to each other and it's so awkward.
Speaker 2: It's so bad, and I love playing it. I love
Speaker 2: playing it. Play it against that's.
Speaker 6: A that's a great project. It's cost of living support
Speaker 6: whilst also having that eye on the economy of.
Speaker 2: The future.
Speaker 5: And a great budget for women. All those decisions we
Speaker 5: talk on women's safety, hoousing, the care economy and all
Speaker 5: these really important ones around driving economic equality for women.
Speaker 3: I hope we should be really proud of it now.
Speaker 3: It's ambitious that it's responsible at the same time. Now
Speaker 3: it's got a lot of help for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: but also some investment in the future, and so I
Speaker 3: think the whole team can be really proud of it.
Speaker 6: Decisions we make today can set us up for the
Speaker 6: next decade and beyond.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it, Senator.
Speaker 2: As you said, you've had to go through that ritual.
Speaker 2: I know it's awkward, but who cares if they feel
Speaker 2: a little bit of pain as opposed to the people
Speaker 2: who actually pay for the budget? Fine by me, baby, Well.
Speaker 1: I normally just talk about other things.
Speaker 17: I mean, that was so awkward because they're not going
Speaker 17: to play those grabs anyway, So you start talking about
Speaker 17: the footy.
Speaker 1: Or yeah that what do you do on the weekend?
Speaker 1: You have for dinner last night? Yeah, it's something a
Speaker 1: bit more natural. I was painful. That was very fake.
Speaker 2: I love it. And you know what I particularly love
Speaker 2: is there'll be someone somewhere inside the POULLANX who's job
Speaker 2: it is to hate watch this program. You know is
Speaker 2: opposition research. Enjoy your pain because I will do it
Speaker 2: every year every time. It's awful. Anyway, about the actual
Speaker 2: budget stamp, they are setting expectations. Yeah, they set expectations
Speaker 2: so they have to come up with something. And I
Speaker 2: think that it's impossible for any government to come up
Speaker 2: with the solution to all the world's problems. But that's
Speaker 2: how they're marketing it.
Speaker 18: Look, maybe there's a problem with their spin.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 18: Let's talk about the actual substance and to your point
Speaker 18: of cost of living inflation is the single biggest problem
Speaker 18: because that leads to interest rates. And I saw your
Speaker 18: primo beforehand, and yep, there's a disagreement between the Treasury
Speaker 18: and it's called an editorial. The editorial between the Treasury
Speaker 18: and the the RBA. Can we all cast our minds
Speaker 18: back to but they're both wrong all the time. But
Speaker 18: this is the point. This is the point. The previous
Speaker 18: governor was on there saying, oh, we're going to have
Speaker 18: historic lows until twenty twenty four, and then three months later,
Speaker 18: three months lady was jacking him up a point.
Speaker 2: At the time this treasurers sacked that person reports them.
Speaker 2: It shows us the hand tick one, and so just
Speaker 2: say we're all clear.
Speaker 18: It's not actually Jim Charmers sitting down there on his
Speaker 18: little typewriter writing the budget and doing his advocates calculations.
Speaker 18: He's got a guy called doctor Stephen Kenny, who's the
Speaker 18: head of Treasury. By the way, as much as the
Speaker 18: Prime innis sure that is twice, this guy's got PhDs
Speaker 18: in economics and all sorts of things like they get
Speaker 18: it wrong every sure, But these are teams as these
Speaker 18: are teams of boffins going at it, with the spokesperson
Speaker 18: of the Treasurer and the Reserve Bank governor being the
Speaker 18: two heads of these things. So it's not as though
Speaker 18: doctor Jim's up there saying, oh, well, I reckon it's
Speaker 18: going to be and I reckon.
Speaker 2: These are a bunch of assumptions. So he's just the
Speaker 2: front hand of the band singing somebody else's song.
Speaker 18: No, No, the assumptions are based on mountains of economic data.
Speaker 18: And it's absolutely reasonable to question an institution that gets
Speaker 18: the numbers up, numbers, your made up numbers. It's reasonable
Speaker 18: to have a discussion about him numbers right, who's numbers wrong?
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a break here, so maybe you're
Speaker 2: pick it up after but Senator, you've got fifteen seconds
Speaker 2: if you want to bang back on it.
Speaker 1: Okay, what does he get quickly? I like him.
Speaker 17: It's the government, it's the government's it's the government's figures.
Speaker 17: They are informed by Treasury, but ultimately they're signed off
Speaker 17: by the government by the treasure.
Speaker 2: I like him, I love you all, but he gets
Speaker 2: the final say host does as well. Quick break back
Speaker 2: when more including this photo of Steven Miles. Okay, jump
Speaker 2: onto the socials and I would love you to be
Speaker 2: able to put a caption underneath this idiot, the bloke
Speaker 2: who hates Carle's this week, but he was wearing their
Speaker 2: merch last week. More on a set. Good news if
Speaker 2: you live in Parks or anywhere near it, because our
Speaker 2: town is coming to your part of Australia at the
Speaker 2: end of this month. I cannot wait to turn up
Speaker 2: to play with the dish. I've got the Prime Minister's approval.
Speaker 2: No anyway, we'll be there looking forward to it. If
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Speaker 2: to Ourtown at skynews dot com dot Au. We're here
Speaker 2: with Matt Cunningham who is in Darwin, Senator Matt Canavan
Speaker 2: who is in Canberra, and Senator not Matt, Sam Crosby,
Speaker 2: who was here of course in the man Cave. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's the Ponds Institute or it's
Speaker 2: something a little bit more serious, but the Population Research
Speaker 2: Institute put out at the end of last week about
Speaker 2: whether people have a sense of belonging in Australia. There's
Speaker 2: been a couple of thousand people. Part of the surveys
Speaker 2: are not insignificant. What was shocking to read though, was
Speaker 2: this the people who were between the age of eight
Speaker 2: seen in twenty nine in Sydney, only fifteen percent of
Speaker 2: them have a sense of belonging. Twenty two percent have
Speaker 2: a sense of belonging in Melbourne, twenty two percent having
Speaker 2: a sense of belonging in Brisbane. Matt, we always talk
Speaker 2: on some level about problems with kids all the rest
Speaker 2: of it here, but what the hell is going on
Speaker 2: when we are talking about people who don't have a
Speaker 2: sense of belonging, who are in the absolute prime of
Speaker 2: their life in this country. What does that tell you? Well?
Speaker 1: I think it might be a few things. I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I said that I mucked it up, Senator, Senator,
Speaker 2: I'll get this right to show for fifteen years.
Speaker 17: But the thing is over the years, if we mixed
Speaker 17: up hand, Yeah, we should never do this. It's like
Speaker 17: you get me mixed up all the time. Now I
Speaker 17: get myself.
Speaker 1: Mixed up that I've been that. That took me three years,
Speaker 1: but which is not a bad thing.
Speaker 17: He's a great bloke, break this fantastics say, a fantastic journalist,
Speaker 17: great company anyway, So I think it's my turn. But
Speaker 17: I think you know that the education system has to
Speaker 17: be a culprit here. I just don't think our schools
Speaker 17: are instilling pride in our country as perhaps they once were,
Speaker 17: and you're gettingto obvious result.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 17: I would also say, though, that our broader society and
Speaker 17: economy is failing young people as well, and so that's
Speaker 17: got to be playing a part too. The most important
Speaker 17: thing I think we could do to help people have
Speaker 17: more pride in their own country is to help them
Speaker 17: own a piece of it. If you own some of
Speaker 17: the land and the real estate of a nation, you're
Speaker 17: more likely to want to protect it and defend it
Speaker 17: and have a stake in it, literally have a staken it.
Speaker 17: And that's obviously becoming harder and harder for people because
Speaker 17: it's just they're just priced out.
Speaker 1: And that's why I come back to it. I think
Speaker 1: we've got to build new cities.
Speaker 17: We've got to build new areas of our country like
Speaker 17: Darwin and others where people can get a start. Just
Speaker 17: can't stack people continually stack people up in Ceey in Melbourne.
Speaker 17: Expect young people again to have the same opportunities as
Speaker 17: their grandfathers.
Speaker 2: All right, So, as I mentioned before, Donald Trump, he's,
Speaker 2: you know, got to stretch the wing. One hundred thousand
Speaker 2: people turning up in New Jersey, if you're pro Biden,
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a worry because it's a massive
Speaker 2: sign of something going on, or they were turning up
Speaker 2: for the fun, or they were willing to travel to
Speaker 2: back the great man in And for some reason he
Speaker 2: used as an example of somebody being dumped from mental
Speaker 2: institutions into America, a person that doesn't exist.
Speaker 16: Silence of the lamb. Has anyone ever seen the silence
Speaker 16: of the lynch? The late Great Hannibal Elector, he's a
Speaker 16: wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner.
Speaker 2: Remember the last scene. Excuse me, I'm about to have
Speaker 2: a friend for dinner. Is this, poor doctor, I'm.
Speaker 16: About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations,
Speaker 16: the late Great Hannibal Elector.
Speaker 2: We have people, matt In Darwin, the late Great Hannibal Elector.
Speaker 2: Like I love I love me some Trump and I
Speaker 2: love me some wild Trump. But you can't you can't
Speaker 2: pretend Hannibal Lector is crossing the border.
Speaker 7: Well and are late great?
Speaker 18: I mean, I don't know like this.
Speaker 7: Trump just baffles me a lot of the time. And
Speaker 7: you know this case in point as well. I don't
Speaker 7: know what the hell he is talking about.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why.
Speaker 7: He is praising Hannibal lect there as late and great.
Speaker 7: But I don't understand a lot of things that come
Speaker 7: out of his mouth. And yet I still think there's
Speaker 7: going to be a hell of a lot of people
Speaker 7: who are going to vote for him.
Speaker 1: Lady this year.
Speaker 2: So that's the thing I tirk it out.
Speaker 7: I think it just shows you the state that US
Speaker 7: politics is in.
Speaker 2: At the moment. Really, give me the bumper sticker version
Speaker 2: his Sam that's the guy who's currently beating your guy.
Speaker 18: Sure, and look everyone, everyone gets that Joe Biden is
Speaker 18: well and truly past his prime, and he is old
Speaker 18: as hell. Right, this blokes a couple of years behind him.
Speaker 18: Clearly there is cognitive decline there. You'll remember the you know,
Speaker 18: the cognitive decline test that he did the man woman
Speaker 18: TV window And I said that, right, man woman TV window.
Speaker 18: You know he's clearly losing his marbles.
Speaker 1: Can't Sam. He's the funniest guy around.
Speaker 17: He wasn't joking, Buddy is so funny?
Speaker 2: All right, gang me.
Speaker 17: Comedy is comedy is dead, but Donald Trump is saving
Speaker 17: stand up comedy single hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, l I think Tony Chliff is as well. All right,
Speaker 2: thanks guys. We'll talk to you again very soon, but
Speaker 2: different mats on different nights. But you can all come
Speaker 2: back any time you want, right, quick break back with
Speaker 2: more what you say about Stephen Miles Nick, I've talked
Speaker 2: too long tonight, so I signed for the late debate.
Speaker 2: But I will tell you there's an awful lot of
Speaker 2: very funny people. The best caption that I think so
Speaker 2: far explains the Stephen Miles thing comes from Andrew says,
Speaker 2: he's going down down, just like the prices used to
Speaker 2: here's the late debate