WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 13 May

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live. Can I make The Night

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<v Speaker 2>before the Budget is my favorite night of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>not because it's about the budget, but because perhaps the

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<v Speaker 2>most cringey thing that any politician goes through and puts

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<v Speaker 2>the media through and puts the public through, is when

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<v Speaker 2>the politicians sit there and read their own budget and

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<v Speaker 2>mark their own homework. Now, they don't expect the audio

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<v Speaker 2>to be shown anywhere because it's normally just pictures that

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<v Speaker 2>end up on the six PM news. Tonight the most

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<v Speaker 2>awkward I've ever seen, and he's just the dayste.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should be really proud of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Great work.

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<v Speaker 2>The full cringe in a month or two is time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to talk about some other things, including

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<v Speaker 2>some updates to big stories that you may well not

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<v Speaker 2>have heard about to this point in time. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the other stuff a bit later. Great

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<v Speaker 2>show tonight as well, looking forward to a big debate

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<v Speaker 2>with Senator Matt Can with Matt Cunningham from the Northern

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<v Speaker 2>Territory to talk about this live export issue. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's massive for people watching us in Regional Australia. We

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<v Speaker 2>get to that in the moment or two's time. But

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<v Speaker 2>as we know, the Labor Party wants to censor the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say that the video of the stabbing that

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<v Speaker 2>happened a few weeks ago in Western Sydney must be banned.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot see it. It's too naughty, it's too evil,

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<v Speaker 2>it will inspire too many other crazies. And the e

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<v Speaker 2>safety Karen has told us that, in our own.

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<v Speaker 4>Words, it is vital that we don't use social media

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<v Speaker 4>as a tool for division and fear, but instead as

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<v Speaker 4>an instrument of solidarity and social cohesion. Online spaces should

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<v Speaker 4>be safe for everyone, no matter a person's culture, faith,

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<v Speaker 4>or background.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Karen, Yes Karen, Please don't cancel me off the Internet, Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't tell me that what I say is misinformation,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we show you the data each and every night. So,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, rather than talking about radicalization and teen radicalization,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's been like almost ten kids in the space

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of weeks that we now know are

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<v Speaker 2>accused of horrible things, including a couple who are alleged

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<v Speaker 2>to have actually gone on to do those horrible things.

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<v Speaker 2>On no, no, no, everyone was talking about the real villain here,

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<v Speaker 2>not radical Islam, not a hate preacher, but a billionaire

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<v Speaker 2>from Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>We're seeing megomaniacs like Elon Musk going to court to

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<v Speaker 5>fight for the right to show terrorist content, alleged terrorist

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<v Speaker 5>content on his platform.

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<v Speaker 1>It just shows his arrogance.

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<v Speaker 6>This is an egotist, totally out of touch.

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<v Speaker 7>He clearly sees this as a vanity project for himself.

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<v Speaker 8>El Must has no social conscience or conscience whatsoever. Quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 8>the bloker should be jailed. The power that that man

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<v Speaker 8>has because of that platform that he's on. It's got

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<v Speaker 8>to stop. That bloke has no conscience. He's an absolute

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<v Speaker 8>freaking disgrace. And there's nothing else to say about Alel Musk.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Karen's by the way, poor David Pocock, I

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<v Speaker 2>say poor David Pocock, because I know he'll just do

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<v Speaker 2>it the government wants in the end, and he'll vote

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<v Speaker 2>for this. But even when Jackie Lamby's just going off

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<v Speaker 2>like the Catherine Will, I'm just writing notes. Maybe no

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<v Speaker 2>one will see that I'm here and agreeing with every

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<v Speaker 2>word she says. Well, of course they went off to

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<v Speaker 2>court and the e Safety Karen was able to get

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty five videos taken down because if you saw them,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow everything would go wrong. Well, today a court has

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<v Speaker 2>now overturned the ban that the E Safety Karen wants

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<v Speaker 2>on those videos. Now the thing is still playing out

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<v Speaker 2>in court, so who knows what will happen at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the week. But today a federal court judge

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<v Speaker 2>has rejected the E Safety Commissioner and her application to

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<v Speaker 2>extend the injunction which would have forced X to continue

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<v Speaker 2>blocking the content. Now, whether it's all been freed up

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<v Speaker 2>tonight or not, we'll all wait and watch and see,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely, even for a day, the Karen's lost, and

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, Rather than talking about the realization that leads

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<v Speaker 2>to the stabbings, we'll go back to talking about Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>but only after, of course, the greatest budget of all

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<v Speaker 2>time has fixed everyone's financial problems. I'll get to it

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<v Speaker 2>in a second. But also another little update today, another

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<v Speaker 2>little change in what the official story is. This one

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<v Speaker 2>in relation to the Bondai stabbing of a few weeks ago, when,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, six people, including the security guard died

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<v Speaker 2>along the members of the public, murdered by a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of work, who was then taken down by the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see, But in the days that followed we

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<v Speaker 2>kept hearing over and over again that obviously this was

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<v Speaker 2>a crime that was targeted against women, so much so

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<v Speaker 2>that the police commissioner even said as.

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<v Speaker 9>Such, it's obvious to me, it's obvious to detectives that

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<v Speaker 9>seems to be an area of interest that the offender

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<v Speaker 9>had focused on women and avoided the men.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for obvious reasons. Five of the six people who

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<v Speaker 2>died were women, so that's how the conclusion was made.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course he stabbed more people who he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up injuring, as well as those the lives of which

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<v Speaker 2>he took well. Today, the Daily Telegraph has done an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting follow up where they've spoken to an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who still are reeling from the tragedy, the

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<v Speaker 2>people who were there on the day, who were treating

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<v Speaker 2>in the hospitals, the police that have been doing the

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<v Speaker 2>best to investigate here. And I want to read something

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a little change from what the official line is.

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<v Speaker 2>The Telegraph can reveal that Isabel's police are no longer

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<v Speaker 2>convinced that the killer, remember we don't use his name,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a schizophrenic from Queensland was targeting women in

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<v Speaker 2>his knife attack on April thirteenth, twenty twenty four. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think that he was targeting women?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. He stabbed three men and a baby. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just running around stabbing people, say as a senior

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<v Speaker 2>police officer who wasn't willing to put their name to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But isn't it interesting because under the rules of misinformation,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had questioned the narrative about what had happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Bondai, well the official line from the police was

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<v Speaker 2>that it was the targeting of women. But if at

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<v Speaker 2>the time you simple hang on, he also killed a

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<v Speaker 2>male security guard, and he stabbed a baby, and what

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<v Speaker 2>about other people that he stabbed? Maybe this was just

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<v Speaker 2>the act of an absolute lunatic who I am glad

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<v Speaker 2>is no longer on the planet. Let's be very clear

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And sometimes things are just random. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the connections that other horrible events give us. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that of course would have been misinformation, which meant if

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<v Speaker 2>you had posted that such a comment from a person

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<v Speaker 2>like me on social media, this government wants to find

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<v Speaker 2>social media companies for you posting what the government believes

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<v Speaker 2>to not be the official line. Well, listen, an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>now that the official line is starting to wobble, just

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<v Speaker 2>as it did on COVID, just as it has multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times before. One of the many reasons why we cannot

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<v Speaker 2>let this government or any government in the future, censor

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. All right, let's get to the budget now.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow night. We'll have a special edition in the program

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<v Speaker 2>ninety minutes. It'll start at nine p thirty Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would like to join us, please do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Because my practice and I've been lucky enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for a long time in this dream job

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<v Speaker 2>of mine, that you get the spin and the interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the journalists that have been stuck together are

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<v Speaker 2>all sort of copying each other's homework. But at nine

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty tomorrow night, at the process of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are not sitting around and learning what's happening in camber. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>we look at it with our own eyes, without the

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<v Speaker 2>people pouring sugar. And so we'll tell you the five

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<v Speaker 2>things you need to know about the budget, plus a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of people that will debate it from all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>So the great coverage tomorrow night, nine thirty. No offense

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<v Speaker 2>to all the other the coverage, but after the main game,

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<v Speaker 2>we are here to bring home the dessert. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be great tomorrow and night because we are

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<v Speaker 2>across the tricks and I'll show you all the different

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<v Speaker 2>tricks about how they've pulled off a surplus, what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do with taxation, and whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to do anything of cost of living. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's all sales pitch, sales pitch, sales pitch from the

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<v Speaker 2>government right now, and we showed you just moments ago.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the excruciating little things the politicians put the

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<v Speaker 2>media through because the media demand little footage to go

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<v Speaker 2>with their pre budget speculation stories that run largely in

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<v Speaker 2>the six pm news. That means that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>and the Treasurer of the day, Liberal Labor whatever, they

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<v Speaker 2>sit there and they flick around through the book. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a wonderful budget, isn't it. Because they have

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<v Speaker 2>to talk because if they just sat there and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>talk and it looked weird, and if they just sat

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<v Speaker 2>there in mouthed fake words, it'd be weird. So they

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<v Speaker 2>just say stuff on the assumption that no one will

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. It's cringey. It's awkward, it's weird, and this

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<v Speaker 2>year it's the weirdest it's ever been. Bahold the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister and the Treasurer patting themselves on the back.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a that's a great paject provide cost of living

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<v Speaker 6>support whilst also having that eye on the economy of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Future and a great budget for women. All those decisions

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<v Speaker 5>will talk on women's safety, thousing, the care economy are

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<v Speaker 5>the really important ones around driving economic equality for women.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope we should be really proud of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of help for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>but also some investment in the future, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>think the whole team can be really proud of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Decisions we make today can set us up the next

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<v Speaker 6>decade and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>I could play it over and over and over again

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<v Speaker 2>as the ultimate metaphor of the bubble within the bubble

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<v Speaker 2>within the bubble that of course exists in camera. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, the treasurer of things that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to as a country cut inflation faster

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<v Speaker 2>than the Reserve Bank. And this essentially matters, not just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a number. But because it's the Reserve Bank

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<v Speaker 2>who makes the decision about whether or not they do

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<v Speaker 2>or don't leave interest rates, put them up or hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>if you gets crossed, to pull them down. Jim Chalmers says,

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<v Speaker 2>we can fix it all by Christmas.

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<v Speaker 11>So the main difference is not necessarily a difference of opinion,

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<v Speaker 11>but a difference of timing. And so because Governor Bullock

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<v Speaker 11>released hers before the budget and because ours will be

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<v Speaker 11>released with the budget, it means it can take into

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<v Speaker 11>consideration the spending restraint that we're showing, the way that

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<v Speaker 11>we're designing our cost of living help.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the person who's actually making the decisions about

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<v Speaker 2>interest rates, remember they say if we can get to

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<v Speaker 2>between two and three percent inflation, then they won't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything more when it comes to interest rates in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of increasing and then slowly but surely will hold and

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<v Speaker 2>then start to go down. But remember she doesn't think

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<v Speaker 2>we get there by Christmas. In July, she doesn't think

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get there by Christmas. She doesn't think that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get there by the summer cricket season. She doesn't think

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be there until even state of origin time next year.

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<v Speaker 12>Inflation at the moment is still declining, but it's declining

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<v Speaker 12>less quickly than we thought, So at the moment we

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<v Speaker 12>still think that we can make our target of coming

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<v Speaker 12>back into target range by twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So who do you believe, the politician who's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you they're doing something about cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>but won't actually change anything in your life, or the

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<v Speaker 2>person who's going to have to deal with the consequences

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<v Speaker 2>of a budget that will find ways to pump even

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<v Speaker 2>more money into the economy, thus becoming stimulatory and potentially

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<v Speaker 2>increasing inflation at the same time petrol prices where they

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<v Speaker 2>continue to go up, but the taxation and it won't

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<v Speaker 2>change at all, because of course the government is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>interested in cost of living. For his point, Barnaby Joyce

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<v Speaker 2>didn't miss haven't we.

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<v Speaker 10>Heard this yarn before on basically everything. Well, you've got

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<v Speaker 10>to make a choice. Do you think the RBA got

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<v Speaker 10>it wrong with their PhDs and all their stuff and

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<v Speaker 10>the Treasure you got it right, and the Treasure got

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<v Speaker 10>it right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Labor Party got it right.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean the guy the promises are falling to the grid.

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<v Speaker 13>There's a few PhDs, the parameters are falling to the

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<v Speaker 13>great politics you PhD in politics, not in economics. The

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<v Speaker 13>promises are falling to the ground like the leaves in autumn.

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<v Speaker 2>The question everybody's going.

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<v Speaker 10>To ask themselves is this it's their third budget? Is

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<v Speaker 10>your life better now than it was when the Labor

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<v Speaker 10>Party came into power?

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<v Speaker 2>And who could possibly say that? It is? An elbow does?

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<v Speaker 2>And twelve interest rate rises, not to mention all of

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<v Speaker 2>the other issues we talk about uphill and down dal

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<v Speaker 2>This is where the rubber hits the road, where the

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<v Speaker 2>BS stops. Now. The BS will continue, of course tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll pretend that they've come up with something. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you by nine point thirty tomorrow night, whether they've

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<v Speaker 2>delivered it or not. Through gritted teeth, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that they've done the right thing, if they have done

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing. But I think we both know they're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to say they've done the right thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>where do the economists sit on this? There's a blow

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<v Speaker 2>called Chris Richardson. He's as much of a feature around

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<v Speaker 2>budget time as any politician. He's been around for decades, constantly,

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<v Speaker 2>always in and around the media. So which way does

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks things are going to go?

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<v Speaker 14>When governments give you a subsidy, they make your electricity

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<v Speaker 14>or your rent or your chunk cheaper. That does lower

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<v Speaker 14>measured inflation. There's a direct impact. The Bureau Stats tells

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<v Speaker 14>us about that. But it also gives families more money

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<v Speaker 14>to spend. That's why governments are doing it. That extra spending,

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<v Speaker 14>that indirect channel can actually make inflation worse rather than better.

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<v Speaker 14>So great that governments are rearranging the pain. It's less

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<v Speaker 14>clear that they are reducing the pain of inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the polite way of saying the Reserve Bank,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the puffery and telling us how amazing formerly Grimjim,

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<v Speaker 2>Now Jim from Queensland, who's here to help you. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this in some detail last night. All the

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<v Speaker 2>puffy suck up pieces. Oh here he us buying flowers

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<v Speaker 2>on Mother's Day? Oh are the cameras here? How did

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<v Speaker 2>that happen? Well, interestingly, the flowers are actually a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a metaphor because, just like everything else, flowers

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<v Speaker 2>have gone up since this blow became the treasurer. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>went and actually had a chat to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>lass who came back and said, among other things, everything

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<v Speaker 2>has increased in price, the cost of growing the flowers

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<v Speaker 2>and Australia has gone up, wages have gone up, souper's

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<v Speaker 2>gone up, casual rates have gone up, especially after COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why the cost of the flowers that the

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<v Speaker 2>Treasurer is going to give himself along with the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister and the mean girl for how amazing their budget is.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is of you with somebody who bought

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<v Speaker 2>flowers yesterday. You may notice they're a little higher than

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<v Speaker 2>they were a couple of years ago. Of course, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the government at all, nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there were the puff piece. There was this

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<v Speaker 2>particularly unique puff piece in the Cydny Morning Herald where

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<v Speaker 2>they did coverage on the coverage of the puff pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>So think about how sort of you know, Chris Nolan

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<v Speaker 2>inception this is starting, you know, the dreams within a dream. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the coverage within the coverage of the Treasurer. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this of course was an interview who did with SBS

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<v Speaker 2>that we showed you last time when he was shown

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<v Speaker 2>people who were dealing with the cost of living. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to the puff Jim Charmer's Sunday Run beguns.

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<v Speaker 2>It begins at three forty six am, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>warm up for the budget now in it. Jim Charmers

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<v Speaker 2>has four affirmations scrawled across the top of his talking

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<v Speaker 2>points forty one, sh hh, and wh and these are

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<v Speaker 2>the guiding principles of the greatest treasurer of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Sh means steady hands, and that's because they need to

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<v Speaker 2>keep inflation in check. HH stands for hard head, a

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<v Speaker 2>prompt about the need to find value for money, while

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<v Speaker 2>wh is warm heart. He needs to be reminded about

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<v Speaker 2>warm heart, a reminder that a government plans to do

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<v Speaker 2>and must deliver cost of living in the budget. So

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<v Speaker 2>because he writes notes on top of the notes about

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<v Speaker 2>the lies they're going to sell you on the budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's so well prepared. Thank goodness. Doctor Charmers with

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<v Speaker 2>his scalpel is here to help for coverage tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>nine to thirty here on Sky News. Believe me be here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you only watch one pul Marie Live a year,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one to watch nine point thirty tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 2>and be there for the whole ninety minutes because I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have plenty to say. Now we all know that Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Miles is fingers crossed headed for the political wood chipper

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end of the year. But let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>queens and Labour Party is good at changing the subject.

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<v Speaker 2>They've won elections they definitely shouldn't have. But certainly when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the west Ips switch by election and

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of others, there are people, no matter how desperate

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<v Speaker 2>he looks with his Queensland Maroon's add on, they just

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<v Speaker 2>walk past him. No, I'm not voting Labor, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a bugger off, but not interested. So he's doing everything

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<v Speaker 2>he possibly can to somehow pull this one out of

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<v Speaker 2>the fire. And he thinks that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do what they weren't able to do in Canberra,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's called the Supermarkets of Australia toward that he

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<v Speaker 2>will be able to single handedly prove, in a hand

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<v Speaker 2>selected committee dominated by the Labor Party in the Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>Parliament what they weren't able to do in Canberra. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember when it was in Canberra, the CEOs of Woolies

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<v Speaker 2>and coals. They got a tongue lashing from the Greens

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<v Speaker 2>swearing in everything. Reality, of course, nothing changes, nothing will changed,

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<v Speaker 2>But they all had their little moment in the sun

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was the inquiry was there in Brisbane today.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Stephen Miles was all fine up and ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go because they were going to finally put the sword

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<v Speaker 2>to these evil, evil supermarkets.

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<v Speaker 15>Queens Landers would like to hear, is a supermarket boss

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<v Speaker 15>say we could have done better?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the weirdest part. He's on the committee. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally parliamentary committees are backbenches when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition shadow ministers, but essentially the Premier or the Minister

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't sit on the panel. But because he wants the

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<v Speaker 2>whole background on the six PM news, him sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>in the Parliament waving his fingers at the CEOs that

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<v Speaker 2>somehow magically the people of Queensland will work out, Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's on our side, because you know he wears the

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<v Speaker 2>maron's cap. Seriously. Now, as for the actual bosses of

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<v Speaker 2>the supermarkets, they've told him to go jump. None of

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<v Speaker 2>the CEOs are willing to sit there and go through

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<v Speaker 2>the tongue lashing that happened at the Federal so they've

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<v Speaker 2>actually sent a whole bunch of underlings. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the CEO of Coles and woollis, wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>there to be fingerwave that by giggles. Oh, he's very annoyed.

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<v Speaker 15>What we've seen from the supermarkets is they just don't

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<v Speaker 15>seem to get it. They just don't seem to get

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<v Speaker 15>how the impact of their prices and their practices are

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<v Speaker 15>hurting Queensland households and hurting Queensland farmers. In particular Coals

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<v Speaker 15>is thumbing their nose at Queenslander's thumbing their nose at

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<v Speaker 15>the Queensland Parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a quick mental note, think about he is comments

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<v Speaker 2>there about Coles that particularly Coals is causing trouble for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put a pinion as for who's actually representing the supermarkets.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got high ranking people who are based in Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>that are turning up in front of it. The supermarket

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<v Speaker 2>giants have elected to cends and your staff with government

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<v Speaker 2>and industry relations people, the head of Public Affairs that

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<v Speaker 2>were there on the behalf of Coles, the Chief Commercial

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<v Speaker 2>Officer and the Queensland direction Director of Woolies were the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that were sitting down. So there were people that

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<v Speaker 2>were willing to cop the tongue lashing, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>as sexy as yelling at the CEOs. But interestingly, another

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<v Speaker 2>person who was on the inquiry today is the shadow

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<v Speaker 2>Agriculture minister. The shadow Agriculture Minister is Tony Perodi. Had

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<v Speaker 2>to double check his name and he was there asking question,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was booted out of the inquiry that Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Miles is sitting on as well. That's dominated by the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party in the Lower House. And it is again

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<v Speaker 2>a show trial because he tried to introduce a photo today.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I show you the photo, he was told he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed to do it. That was therefore ruled disorderly.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore he was booted out of the room. You cannot

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<v Speaker 2>ask any more questions for at least sixty minutes. Why

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<v Speaker 2>because the photo was this photo, the photo of the

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<v Speaker 2>bloke who said what about Coles. This photo is not

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<v Speaker 2>from five years ago and from five weeks ago. It's

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<v Speaker 2>barely from five days ago. This was when he was

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<v Speaker 2>at Beef Week last week in Rockhampton and he's cooking

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<v Speaker 2>up a storm with a bunch of school kids. Had

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<v Speaker 2>an event sponsored by carls Now for food safety. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he had that wear the hat. Perhaps he could have

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<v Speaker 2>turned it around though, So can you believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>show trial is so thin in its political objections at

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<v Speaker 2>objectives that someone trying to introduce a photo that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of contradicts the I Hate Coles of Stephen Miles is

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<v Speaker 2>booted out of the committee for a full hour. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're committed to the big issues, aren't they, the Miles government. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you go to Cole's, Woolli's aldi IgA or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>corner store, can you do me a favor? And I

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<v Speaker 2>did say this four years ago, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say it again now, even though the cost of that

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<v Speaker 2>item probably is more than it was four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you get some disinfectant because we're going to need

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<v Speaker 2>it after we get rid of this mob towards the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year. In Queensland, it's up to you, Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>I made the case before, it didn't work, but I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon the case is going to land, and land hard

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<v Speaker 2>in the form of Queenslanders with a size nine into

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<v Speaker 2>the backside of this bloke and all of the other

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<v Speaker 2>fools that are with him. Youth crime in Queensland and

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere else in the country is quite a substantial issue,

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<v Speaker 2>one that, of course politicians aren't particularly interested in dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with because we have despite the fact that there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many teenagers involved in all sorts of things right literally

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<v Speaker 2>from terrorism stuff in New South Wales and of course

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.120
<v Speaker 2>in Western Australia, all the way through to the car

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 2>thefts in regional Australia. But of course there is a

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<v Speaker 2>big move on not to get rid of youth crime.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea is that we shouldn't call it a

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<v Speaker 2>crime anymore if a person is of a certain age. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for years in Australia, the age of criminal responsibility has

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<v Speaker 2>been ten. Anything under you can't go before anything, you

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<v Speaker 2>will not be punished. But a magical way of making

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<v Speaker 2>the number of young people who get locked up for

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<v Speaker 2>the crimes they commit, not falsely accused they commit, means

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<v Speaker 2>that we should move the number from ten to twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some states move it up to fourteen. So

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<v Speaker 2>the crime still happen, we just won't hold anyone responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for it. And well meaning organizations have websites and campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>to raise the a and in Victoria they are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to make these changes where right now the age of

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<v Speaker 2>criminal responsibility is in is twelve. It'll move up to

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen by twenty twenty seven. And as you can see

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<v Speaker 2>the same will happen next year in the Act. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of pressure on every other state government,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not bending at this moment in time. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk an event that took place in

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful city of Dubbo over the weekend. I love Dubbo,

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<v Speaker 2>been there plenty of times we did in ourtown there.

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<v Speaker 2>We were there for royal tours. This is a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>part of Australia. Shout out to everyone who's watching us

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<v Speaker 2>right now. In Dubbo. And on the weekend they had

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<v Speaker 2>their big show, the Big Agricultural Show, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big moments in town. All the usual things from animal

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<v Speaker 2>events to craft events, you know, like the Easter show

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 2>where the Echo or the Melbourne Show. But of course

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<v Speaker 2>this one is for the local area in and around Dubbo. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible crime is alleged to a taken place there

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<v Speaker 2>with a sixteen year old had a knife held to

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<v Speaker 2>his throat. Apparently this was all in part of a robbery.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that matter again we'll be dealt with by the courts.

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<v Speaker 2>But something that was found out within two hours of

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<v Speaker 2>that particular incident was that there was a stabbing list

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<v Speaker 2>that had been put together by an eleven year old

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<v Speaker 2>and a twelve year old of people that they were

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<v Speaker 2>apparently thinking about going after. The boys aged eleven and twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>handed themselves into police on Saturday, and they admitted to

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<v Speaker 2>committing the hoax list they now call of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four stab Now, I wanted to put this in context.

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<v Speaker 2>If they had putten that stab list together in Victoria

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<v Speaker 2>or the Act, the eleven year old would have no responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>By next year. In the Act, both of them would

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<v Speaker 2>not be punished for even committing the stabbing, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>the hoax list of the people to potentially be stabbed.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the consequences when people say we must change

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<v Speaker 2>the age of responsibility because too many people, and particularly

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<v Speaker 2>Indigenous kids, end up in court. Now, while that may

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<v Speaker 2>well be the case that there are too many Indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>kids that end up in court, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the cultural heritage is of anyone involved in what

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<v Speaker 2>happened at the Double Show over the weekend, the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is that we would like to live in a society

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<v Speaker 2>where if you draw up a list of people you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to stab, let alone, if they went on to

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<v Speaker 2>stab that, the person would be held criminally responsible. But

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<v Speaker 2>right now, if it happened in or Sorry, in the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of years, if it happened in Victoria, happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the Act, nothing would happen. Does anyone honestly think

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<v Speaker 2>that that is a reasonable system? I don't big news

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<v Speaker 2>today when it comes to breast cancer. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>very interestingnnouncement which came out and was put up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Financial Review who focused on this today, that there

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<v Speaker 2>may well be a system that would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the risk of breast cancer by fifty percent. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is huge news because breast cancer kills thousands of women,

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<v Speaker 2>a few blokes as well, but mainly of course women,

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<v Speaker 2>each and every year. It may well be the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why this Mother's Day Mum was no longer around. So

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<v Speaker 2>I were very interested in this story and it says

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<v Speaker 2>that while the scientists sound, it's not widely known that

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<v Speaker 2>anti hormone drugs can apparently reduce the risk of breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty thirteen, a Professor Phillips began working on a

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<v Speaker 2>new system at the Peter McCallum Cancer Center in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>It is now functioning and open to women across Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there is a website that I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>give you, and I would like the women of Australia

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<v Speaker 2>to go and fill out the survey. Now again, I

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<v Speaker 2>know only what I've read here on the in the articles,

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<v Speaker 2>but the website and I'll find the exact website detail

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<v Speaker 2>for you in a moment or two. Is time. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought we're going to show that, but that is in

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<v Speaker 2>fact the front page of it. Well, this is an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for the women of Australia to reach out and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially be able to reduce their risk of breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>If that can happen by fifty percent, then we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be living in a much better country with

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<v Speaker 2>much healthier people, and all of us would be united

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<v Speaker 2>in how important that particularly would be going into the future.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Petermack or one word, Petermack dot org Ford

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<v Speaker 2>slash I prevent Petermack dot org Ford slash I prevent.

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<v Speaker 2>I make sure that the details are up on our socials.

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<v Speaker 2>But I apologize. I wanted to tell it, not just

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<v Speaker 2>show it, but that is what is in fact in front.

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<v Speaker 2>In the next hour or so, Donald Trumpell headed back

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<v Speaker 2>to court for yet another week in the WHO knew

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>what and when about the document's case in and around

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<v Speaker 2>the hush money payments that made its way to Stormy Daniels.

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<v Speaker 2>This week's the biggest week yet because Michael Cohen, the

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<v Speaker 2>former lawyer of the bloke who was being paid in

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<v Speaker 2>the installments, well, he will be testifying about whether those

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<v Speaker 2>installments were knowingly a way of falsifying documents or the

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>defense will be able to poke many holes in a

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>bloke who has gone to jail for lying in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>that being Michael Cohen. But as I told you last night,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a rally with almost one hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>in New Jersey. Now, this is a state that is

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<v Speaker 2>a hard blue state that Republicans are not going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>But if people were willing to turn up or travel,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing for Donald Trump. But even those

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of us that support Trump would love him to beat

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<v Speaker 2>Biden are a little confused why he said this when

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about how the world is emptying their

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<v Speaker 2>mental asylums and sending those people to become supposed refugees

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<v Speaker 2>in America. Sailance of the lamb?

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<v Speaker 16>Has anyone ever said a silence of the lamp? The

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 16>late Great Hannibal letter. He is a wonderful man. He

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 16>oftentimes would have a friend for dinner. Remember the last

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<v Speaker 16>excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this, poor doctor, I'm.

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<v Speaker 16>About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 16>the late Great Hannibal Elector. We have people that are

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<v Speaker 16>being released into our country that we don't runt in

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<v Speaker 16>our country.

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<v Speaker 2>The late Great Hannibal Lector, who clearly doesn't exist, never existed,

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently as an example of the mental asylums that

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>have been I don't want Biden to win. I support

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of Trump returning to the presidency, but he

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<v Speaker 2>might have to do slightly better than that. But I

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>get it there's a lot in his mind right now,

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<v Speaker 2>especially this week. You'll get all the details tomorrow morning

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<v Speaker 2>with Peter stephanovickin first edition Quick Break Back, with more

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>lots of talk about including for Regional Australia and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else who remembers when the Gillard government watched four Corners

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<v Speaker 2>one night and then just stopped the live export industry. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this mob in Canberra, still living in the same bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to double down, and the bad decisions of

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<v Speaker 2>the past day are going to get rid of live export.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it going to mean? We'll talk about it next

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<v Speaker 2>here on Paul Morray Life. I'm excited. We've got Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Crosby with us in the man Cave and he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to defend everything his government's ever done, ever will

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<v Speaker 2>do absolutely speakable. Well, you might have fun here because

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<v Speaker 2>Senator mac Canavan of course is here as well, joining

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<v Speaker 2>us from Camber and the lead up to the budget

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<v Speaker 2>and the great Matt Cunningham stand up one of our favorites,

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<v Speaker 2>the best in the business in the territory, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think i'd put him in top five in the country

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<v Speaker 2>for journos. Mate, I'm sorry to put that weight in

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<v Speaker 2>your saddle bag, but I love you and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're one of the best in the business, not just

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<v Speaker 2>here at Sky All right, pleasantry is over. So last

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<v Speaker 2>week we had the Prime Minister with the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>Seemi new hat walking around Beef week in Rockhampton. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of the farmer. Tyde loves beef. I'll eventually

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<v Speaker 2>get to a good impersonation, but you get the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that you grew up in a housing

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<v Speaker 2>commut was a terrible story, terrible story. Anyway, he's running

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<v Speaker 2>around with the farmers right pretending I'm a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>the farmer, and he waits until a few days later

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<v Speaker 2>and assuming that the farmers are so stupid that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have access to the internets or television or radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will completely be okay that the same bloke

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<v Speaker 2>who pretends is the friend of the farmer at Beefweak

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<v Speaker 2>is now going to ban live exports. Now. He was

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<v Speaker 2>around the cabinet table when it made its overnight decision

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<v Speaker 2>after watching Four Corners back in twenty ten. And as

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<v Speaker 2>we know labor, it always goes back to the same

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<v Speaker 2>bad idea. They've just come up with a different way

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<v Speaker 2>of doing it now, Senator. The claim is that this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be okay because we're not just turn

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<v Speaker 2>it off tomorrow. We're doing it over a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of years, which means that currently the cattle farmers of

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Australia will be able to just slowly but surely

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<v Speaker 2>turning themselves into wind farms and that'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, while Paul, this's decision just at this stage affects

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<v Speaker 17>those sheep farmers that are exposed to the live sheep industry.

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<v Speaker 17>The concern is of course that the animal activists, animal

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<v Speaker 17>welfare activists won't stop as sheep, they'll move on to cattle.

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<v Speaker 17>But it is a cowardly move by this governor. As

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<v Speaker 17>you said, the promise was there in Rockhampton last week

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<v Speaker 17>at Beef Week, at a collection of farms and grazies

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<v Speaker 17>who were very interested in this decision. A lot of

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<v Speaker 17>people talking about it because as I say, they are

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<v Speaker 17>very concerned about the flow and effects of the cattle industry.

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<v Speaker 17>And I'm sure we'll find out perhaps true estimates and

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<v Speaker 17>estimates when this decision was made, and I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 17>probably was made before the promist was there, so he

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<v Speaker 17>knew he had it in his back pocket, but he

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<v Speaker 17>was just cowardy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is gutless, there's no other word for it.

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<v Speaker 17>It's gutless not to tell them upfront while he was

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<v Speaker 17>with them, as you say, wearing the big hat.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he scurried away and they.

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<v Speaker 17>Dropped this announcement out over the weekend just ahead of

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<v Speaker 17>the budget, hoping the budget swamps it all. But thousands

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<v Speaker 17>of jobs now in West Australia on the line. The

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<v Speaker 17>w Premier, the labor WA Premier, objects to Labour's policy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to cruel a whole industry.

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<v Speaker 17>And why do we need to shut down a whole

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<v Speaker 17>industry when if we want to tackle inflation we have

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<v Speaker 17>to become more productive.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to invest in parts.

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<v Speaker 17>Of our economy that are making things that are making

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<v Speaker 17>money for our country, that are producing jobs and as

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<v Speaker 17>enormous demand for our high quality live sheep. They've got

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<v Speaker 17>an excellent animal welfare record where you know, there's been

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<v Speaker 17>a few contraventions, but they've been fixed excellent in the

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<v Speaker 17>last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no reason to do this.

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<v Speaker 17>The only reason Labor Party's doing this is because they

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<v Speaker 17>need the preferences of the animal welfare parties. So this

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<v Speaker 17>is about protecting the jobs of Labor Party and they're

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<v Speaker 17>going to sacrifice thousands of jobs in Western Australia to

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<v Speaker 17>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam, I'll get you in a second. But Matt, you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you lived it. You reported it right when it was

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<v Speaker 2>about cattle and it was the Northern Territory. About what

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<v Speaker 2>those consequences were. I'm completely aware that it's about sheep,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's more so specifically in and around Western Australia

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<v Speaker 2>where there's going to be particular issues. But you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this play out before. But if they say it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little more notice and a little more time, then

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<v Speaker 2>it will all end up being Okay, what's your sense of.

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<v Speaker 17>It, it's already having a massive end.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there, I'm going to call you, Senator and Matt, Matt, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>you're turning down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be a sader.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think there was a more I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>there was a more devastating decision that a government made

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<v Speaker 7>that impacted the Northern Territory than this one. And people

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 7>are still talking about it today, some thirteen years on.

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<v Speaker 7>Pool In fact, a lot of the people who were

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<v Speaker 7>affected by the Gillard government's band on live exports are

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<v Speaker 7>still waiting for this government to agree to the settlement

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 7>of the class action that has been running now for

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<v Speaker 7>more than a decade. But I think the bigger concern

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 7>here is that now that live cheap exports the government's

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 7>committed to banning them, that live cattle is next. And

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 7>you get an indication of what's coming from a tweet

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<v Speaker 7>today from the TLMP Kylieh Tink, who congratulates the government

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 7>for doing this, says it's something that people of North

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 7>Sydney have been calling for since before the election, and

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<v Speaker 7>then goes on to say it's disappointing though that we

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<v Speaker 7>have to wait four years and there's still no plan

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 7>to end live beef cattle exports. That tweet will send

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 7>a shiver down the spine of every live catle ex

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<v Speaker 7>order in the Northern Territory, and the prospect of the

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<v Speaker 7>Albanese government going into minority government at the next election

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 7>will absolutely scare the living daylights out of them, because

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 7>it was in twenty eleven when the Gillard government was

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<v Speaker 7>relying on the Greens and Independence to stay in power

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 7>that they made that original decision. And God only knows.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 7>People will be thinking here, what happens if there is

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<v Speaker 7>a minority government supported by the Greens and the Tills

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<v Speaker 7>come twenty twenty five, what will happen to live Experts

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<v Speaker 7>from the Northern Territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree animal welfare and the politics of it again, many

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>people elected two parliaments exclusively on animal welfare. But by

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>doing it over a long period of time it may

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<v Speaker 2>well taper, but it doesn't change the financial pain for

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the people whose life is completely linked.

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<v Speaker 18>No, if you do it well, it won't have much pain.

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<v Speaker 18>At all, because you're going to process the meat in Australia.

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<v Speaker 18>That's the whole idea. Right, you give them four years

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<v Speaker 18>and I'm sure that four years then becomes full or.

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<v Speaker 1>Vice already suffering.

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<v Speaker 18>But the idea is that you process the meat here

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<v Speaker 18>in Australia, and I'm all in favor of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Indonesia they will kill the cattle live. The halal killing

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<v Speaker 2>means they don't want it boxed here.

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<v Speaker 18>Sure, but you can do halal here. You can do

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<v Speaker 18>halal here. Hallal is pretty easy, right. You use a

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 18>knife for whatever you've done the thing. You use a knife,

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 18>you say a prayer, you face at East Order. It's

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 18>pretty easy to do to get halal certification wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 18>But the point is you can do it here in Australia,

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 18>and that means jobs. If you go to Konne banner Brandt,

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 18>which is a little town out in Yep, they had

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<v Speaker 18>they had an abati get closed down there, I don't know,

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 18>twenty ten, twenty twelve, something like that, and it decimated

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 18>the town, decimated of the town. And these are the

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 18>little sort of towns that we're talking about. If you

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<v Speaker 18>can build an abati there that employs forty fifty people.

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<v Speaker 18>They're good jobs, they're permanent jobs. Why wouldn't we be

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<v Speaker 18>in favor of that, And yeah, okay, the animal right issues, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just demonstrate so why not.

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<v Speaker 17>This just demonstrates, This demonstrates why the Labor Party are

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<v Speaker 17>so hopeless of business. The customer wants the live sheet,

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<v Speaker 17>that's what they want. In the Middle East, they want

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 17>them for religious reasons. They want them because they don't

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 17>have as much refrigeration as we do. So the box

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<v Speaker 17>beef is not going to do the box sheep, I

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<v Speaker 17>should say, it's not going to do them any good

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 17>she box sheep meat. And so already sam these countries

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 17>in the Middle East are going to South America. They

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 17>can get the sheep elsewhere, they can go elsewhere, they

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 17>don't need us, and they're already doing that. And so

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<v Speaker 17>if you knew anything about the sheep industry right now,

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 17>you know it's on his knees because BEF well before

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 17>the government shut the date in twenty twenty eight, the

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 17>market's already shifting and sheep price is now at record lows.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 17>Grazes are having to shoot their flocks. It's terrible, it's

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<v Speaker 17>very sad. It's having a flow on effect. I spoke

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 17>to grazes at Beef Weeak last week. Some of them

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 17>are in beef and sheep and it's already having a

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 17>flow on effect to sheep prices in Eastern markets, just

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 17>as the live cattle band did. This is a complete

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 17>and after disas so there won't be those jobs there

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 17>in the avatars because the customer doesn't want them. And

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 17>if you're in business, Sam, if you're successful in business,

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 17>you've got to meet the customer demand. And there's no

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<v Speaker 17>reason we can't do that with strong animal welfare standards

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 17>as we've been doing in a live sheep band. This

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<v Speaker 17>is a political ban, not one on any kind of science.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get to again Matt in Darwin. So

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>we're being very clear with everyone here, Senators, future senators, whatever,

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>we're all here, No, no appreciate it. So, Matt, you've

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously seen federal politics through the lens of the Northern

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Territory for a long period of time and you know

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 2>that budget night is this big carry on and then

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>you've got to find you know what's in it for

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the Northern Territory often not much? But what do you

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>think about the pregame here where the pregame is all,

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do something about costly. I'll tell you what.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>The rabbit that he's going to have to pull out

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>of the hat is going to be taller than Sam.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And tall is Sam. He's a very statuesque gentleman, Okay,

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>but there is no rabbit the size of Sam that

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 2>a treasure is going to be able to pull out

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>of a hat. So has this government already kind of

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>spun itself into a corner of expectations?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he's talking of a big game, is he, And

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 7>I think it's pretty brave. Bab's admirable. I don't know,

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 7>we'll see whether I guess time will tell, but he's

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 7>pretty brave saying that, you know, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>an inflation back between two and three percent by Christmas,

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 7>because I'm not sure how many levers the government can

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<v Speaker 7>actually pull to make this happen, And the only ones

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 7>that I think they're able to pull and they're going

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 7>to pull in the budget would perhaps, you know, cause

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 7>inflation to rise rather than come down. So you know,

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 7>i'd be backing Michelle Bullock over Jim Charmers when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to where inflation is going to be come December.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I've seen you go through the pomp and

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 7>ceremony that surrounds the budget and to be fair at

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 7>some level to the Treasurer and the Prime Minister, it

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 7>is the media that insists that the politicians show.

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Up for these.

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Most of them would rather not be.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 7>But it never looks good for anyone really.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, bring back the awkward grab team. All right, come on, James,

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 2>go find it. We're going to play it again, because

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit like, you know, what's the babaduk

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 2>or something. As soon as you mention it, it must appear.

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 2>So if I say it three times, was that I

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>never forget. But still what we're talking about here, the

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>super awkward wonderful moment when they're sort of posing for

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the cameras. They don't just go so they have to

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>sort of say things to each other and it's so awkward.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 2>It's so bad, and I love playing it. I love

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>playing it. Play it against that's.

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<v Speaker 6>A that's a great project. It's cost of living support

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 6>whilst also having that eye on the economy of.

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<v Speaker 2>The future.

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<v Speaker 5>And a great budget for women. All those decisions we

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 5>talk on women's safety, hoousing, the care economy and all

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 5>these really important ones around driving economic equality for women.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope we should be really proud of it now.

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>It's ambitious that it's responsible at the same time. Now

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 3>it's got a lot of help for a lot of people,

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>but also some investment in the future, and so I

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>think the whole team can be really proud of it.

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 6>Decisions we make today can set us up for the

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<v Speaker 6>next decade and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it. I love it, Senator.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, you've had to go through that ritual.

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I know it's awkward, but who cares if they feel

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of pain as opposed to the people

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 2>who actually pay for the budget? Fine by me, baby, Well.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I normally just talk about other things.

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 17>I mean, that was so awkward because they're not going

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 17>to play those grabs anyway, So you start talking about

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 17>the footy.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Or yeah that what do you do on the weekend?

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You have for dinner last night? Yeah, it's something a

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>bit more natural. I was painful. That was very fake.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I love it. And you know what I particularly love

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is there'll be someone somewhere inside the POULLANX who's job

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it is to hate watch this program. You know is

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>opposition research. Enjoy your pain because I will do it

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>every year every time. It's awful. Anyway, about the actual

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>budget stamp, they are setting expectations. Yeah, they set expectations

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>so they have to come up with something. And I

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 2>think that it's impossible for any government to come up

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>with the solution to all the world's problems. But that's

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>how they're marketing it.

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 18>Look, maybe there's a problem with their spin.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 18>Let's talk about the actual substance and to your point

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 18>of cost of living inflation is the single biggest problem

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 18>because that leads to interest rates. And I saw your

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 18>primo beforehand, and yep, there's a disagreement between the Treasury

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 18>and it's called an editorial. The editorial between the Treasury

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 18>and the the RBA. Can we all cast our minds

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 18>back to but they're both wrong all the time. But

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 18>this is the point. This is the point. The previous

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 18>governor was on there saying, oh, we're going to have

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 18>historic lows until twenty twenty four, and then three months later,

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 18>three months lady was jacking him up a point.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 2>At the time this treasurers sacked that person reports them.

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>It shows us the hand tick one, and so just

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 2>say we're all clear.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 18>It's not actually Jim Charmers sitting down there on his

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 18>little typewriter writing the budget and doing his advocates calculations.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 18>He's got a guy called doctor Stephen Kenny, who's the

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 18>head of Treasury. By the way, as much as the

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 18>Prime innis sure that is twice, this guy's got PhDs

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 18>in economics and all sorts of things like they get

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 18>it wrong every sure, But these are teams as these

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 18>are teams of boffins going at it, with the spokesperson

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 18>of the Treasurer and the Reserve Bank governor being the

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 18>two heads of these things. So it's not as though

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 18>doctor Jim's up there saying, oh, well, I reckon it's

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 18>going to be and I reckon.

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>These are a bunch of assumptions. So he's just the

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>front hand of the band singing somebody else's song.

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<v Speaker 18>No, No, the assumptions are based on mountains of economic data.

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 18>And it's absolutely reasonable to question an institution that gets

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 18>the numbers up, numbers, your made up numbers. It's reasonable

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 18>to have a discussion about him numbers right, who's numbers wrong?

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take a break here, so maybe you're

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>pick it up after but Senator, you've got fifteen seconds

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>if you want to bang back on it.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what does he get quickly? I like him.

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 17>It's the government, it's the government's it's the government's figures.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 17>They are informed by Treasury, but ultimately they're signed off

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 17>by the government by the treasure.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I like him, I love you all, but he gets

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 2>the final say host does as well. Quick break back

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 2>when more including this photo of Steven Miles. Okay, jump

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>onto the socials and I would love you to be

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 2>able to put a caption underneath this idiot, the bloke

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>who hates Carle's this week, but he was wearing their

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>merch last week. More on a set. Good news if

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you live in Parks or anywhere near it, because our

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>town is coming to your part of Australia at the

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 2>end of this month. I cannot wait to turn up

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>to play with the dish. I've got the Prime Minister's approval.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 2>No anyway, we'll be there looking forward to it. If

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>you want to join us Parks for our town on Sunday,

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the twenty sixth of May, please send me an email

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>to Ourtown at skynews dot com dot Au. We're here

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 2>with Matt Cunningham who is in Darwin, Senator Matt Canavan

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>who is in Canberra, and Senator not Matt, Sam Crosby,

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 2>who was here of course in the man Cave. Now.

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether it's the Ponds Institute or it's

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>something a little bit more serious, but the Population Research

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Institute put out at the end of last week about

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>whether people have a sense of belonging in Australia. There's

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 2>been a couple of thousand people. Part of the surveys

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>are not insignificant. What was shocking to read though, was

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this the people who were between the age of eight

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 2>seen in twenty nine in Sydney, only fifteen percent of

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>them have a sense of belonging. Twenty two percent have

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 2>a sense of belonging in Melbourne, twenty two percent having

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 2>a sense of belonging in Brisbane. Matt, we always talk

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>on some level about problems with kids all the rest

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 2>of it here, but what the hell is going on

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>when we are talking about people who don't have a

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>sense of belonging, who are in the absolute prime of

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>their life in this country. What does that tell you? Well?

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it might be a few things. I mean, I.

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I said that I mucked it up, Senator, Senator,

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll get this right to show for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 17>But the thing is over the years, if we mixed

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 17>up hand, Yeah, we should never do this. It's like

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 17>you get me mixed up all the time. Now I

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 17>get myself.

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Mixed up that I've been that. That took me three years,

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but which is not a bad thing.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 17>He's a great bloke, break this fantastics say, a fantastic journalist,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 17>great company anyway, So I think it's my turn. But

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 17>I think you know that the education system has to

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 17>be a culprit here. I just don't think our schools

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 17>are instilling pride in our country as perhaps they once were,

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 17>and you're gettingto obvious result.

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<v Speaker 2>Look.

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<v Speaker 17>I would also say, though, that our broader society and

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<v Speaker 17>economy is failing young people as well, and so that's

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<v Speaker 17>got to be playing a part too. The most important

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<v Speaker 17>thing I think we could do to help people have

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<v Speaker 17>more pride in their own country is to help them

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<v Speaker 17>own a piece of it. If you own some of

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<v Speaker 17>the land and the real estate of a nation, you're

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<v Speaker 17>more likely to want to protect it and defend it

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<v Speaker 17>and have a stake in it, literally have a staken it.

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<v Speaker 17>And that's obviously becoming harder and harder for people because

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<v Speaker 17>it's just they're just priced out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I come back to it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to build new cities.

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<v Speaker 17>We've got to build new areas of our country like

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<v Speaker 17>Darwin and others where people can get a start. Just

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<v Speaker 17>can't stack people continually stack people up in Ceey in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 17>Expect young people again to have the same opportunities as

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<v Speaker 17>their grandfathers.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So, as I mentioned before, Donald Trump, he's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, got to stretch the wing. One hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people turning up in New Jersey, if you're pro Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit of a worry because it's a massive

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<v Speaker 2>sign of something going on, or they were turning up

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<v Speaker 2>for the fun, or they were willing to travel to

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<v Speaker 2>back the great man in And for some reason he

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<v Speaker 2>used as an example of somebody being dumped from mental

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<v Speaker 2>institutions into America, a person that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 16>Silence of the lamb. Has anyone ever seen the silence

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<v Speaker 16>of the lynch? The late Great Hannibal Elector, he's a

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<v Speaker 16>wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the last scene. Excuse me, I'm about to have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend for dinner. Is this, poor doctor, I'm.

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<v Speaker 16>About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 16>the late Great Hannibal Elector.

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<v Speaker 2>We have people, matt In Darwin, the late Great Hannibal Elector.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love I love me some Trump and I

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<v Speaker 2>love me some wild Trump. But you can't you can't

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<v Speaker 2>pretend Hannibal Lector is crossing the border.

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<v Speaker 7>Well and are late great?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, I don't know like this.

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<v Speaker 7>Trump just baffles me a lot of the time. And

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<v Speaker 7>you know this case in point as well. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know what the hell he is talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 7>He is praising Hannibal lect there as late and great.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't understand a lot of things that come

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<v Speaker 7>out of his mouth. And yet I still think there's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be a hell of a lot of people

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<v Speaker 7>who are going to vote for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the thing I tirk it out.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it just shows you the state that US

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<v Speaker 7>politics is in.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment. Really, give me the bumper sticker version

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<v Speaker 2>his Sam that's the guy who's currently beating your guy.

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<v Speaker 18>Sure, and look everyone, everyone gets that Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 18>well and truly past his prime, and he is old

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<v Speaker 18>as hell. Right, this blokes a couple of years behind him.

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<v Speaker 18>Clearly there is cognitive decline there. You'll remember the you know,

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<v Speaker 18>the cognitive decline test that he did the man woman

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<v Speaker 18>TV window And I said that, right, man woman TV window.

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<v Speaker 18>You know he's clearly losing his marbles.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't Sam. He's the funniest guy around.

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<v Speaker 17>He wasn't joking, Buddy is so funny?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, gang me.

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<v Speaker 17>Comedy is comedy is dead, but Donald Trump is saving

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<v Speaker 17>stand up comedy single hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, l I think Tony Chliff is as well. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks guys. We'll talk to you again very soon, but

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<v Speaker 2>different mats on different nights. But you can all come

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<v Speaker 2>back any time you want, right, quick break back with

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<v Speaker 2>more what you say about Stephen Miles Nick, I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>too long tonight, so I signed for the late debate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will tell you there's an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 2>very funny people. The best caption that I think so

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<v Speaker 2>far explains the Stephen Miles thing comes from Andrew says,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going down down, just like the prices used to

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<v Speaker 2>here's the late debate