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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. What

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Speaker 1: you think the least attractive hobby for a man to

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Speaker 1: have is there's plenty out there stamp collecting. I think

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Speaker 1: that's not a job. I think that's interesting, especially when

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Speaker 1: I think I think my ex husband used to collect stamps,

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Speaker 1: or at least he had his NaN's collection.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys picked on me for a long time

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Speaker 2: about my butterfly collection. When I was a younger Chapel

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Speaker 2: I used to collect butterflies. Card had an avery at home.

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Speaker 3: Did you He had a selection of nets next to

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Speaker 3: the avery, and Dad, I think, I think this net

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Speaker 3: would be perfect today to catch the butterfly.

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Speaker 2: And I would hop, skip and jump through the backyard

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Speaker 2: catching butterflies. Monarch was my favorite's.

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Speaker 1: Because you're a child.

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Speaker 2: Then we went to Winston Churchill's war bunker in London,

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Speaker 2: and what did he do collect butterflies? Two world leaders

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Speaker 2: separated by a couple of generations, That is.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, it was. We always thought it was a

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Speaker 3: bit weird with the very outfit that you wore. Catching

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Speaker 3: the back grew out of it.

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Speaker 2: That was the only issue. Was a bit tight around

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Speaker 2: the fast.

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Speaker 1: What do you think your least attractive hobby is now

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Speaker 1: as a grown man fitsie, Well.

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Speaker 3: I look, I still have a collection of calculator watches,

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Speaker 3: which I think is quite new. Yeah, I've got some

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Speaker 3: really good ones actually that I've forgotten about that now

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Speaker 3: I find that my bedside drawer Lenny opens regularly and

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Speaker 3: goes through them, so I think he's actually pushing for

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Speaker 3: a calculator watching.

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Speaker 1: Such kind of will come to yours in a minute,

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Speaker 1: because you might just hog the whole break if we

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Speaker 1: get to your unattractive hobbies.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about gaming, because this is the bitter games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, if you're a grown man and you're into gaming,

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Speaker 1: it is the least or the most unattractive hobby a

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Speaker 1: man can have. This is this woman who's spoken out.

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Speaker 1: Her name's Liz Wheeler. She's caused controversy online after claiming

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Speaker 1: that men playing video games is not only a red flag,

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Speaker 1: but the most unattractive hobby a man can have. She

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Speaker 1: took two x to share her thoughts on gamers, saying

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Speaker 1: that it's here we go, saying it's beyond red flag,

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Speaker 1: like deal breaker zone. It's weird that so many dudes don't.

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Speaker 2: Get this twenty four ten. If you've broken up with

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Speaker 2: someone because they're a gamer.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what when you go to Harvey Norman

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Speaker 3: and you walk past the gaming chair section, I think

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Speaker 3: to myself, if you do have one of these at home,

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Speaker 3: it is a red flag. What do you mean gaming

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Speaker 3: chair kate that they are like it is, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I could see it in the car, like they're better

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Speaker 3: than any office chair. Like it's full on, because I

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Speaker 3: mean there's hours and hours being spent in these chairs,

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Speaker 3: but they look like racing chairs. Have you seen them?

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Speaker 1: Having a look at one man?

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Speaker 2: See what I'm skinny? Are you using in fight? Because I've

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Speaker 2: got the Travis Scott og it's really skippity our slighing

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Speaker 2: on the weekend headshot.

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Speaker 3: I can't get into it. I just and I know,

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Speaker 3: and Maggie Dent has told us this. Maggie den is,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to video games with your kids, you

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Speaker 3: do have to maybe sit down with them every now

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Speaker 3: and then and understand the game and talk their language

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Speaker 3: to make them feel comfortable. And you're okay with it,

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Speaker 3: But I'm really struggling.

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Speaker 2: With it as I am as a family. We will,

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Speaker 2: Mario cut, We're not afraid to Mario o'cart it's a

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Speaker 2: bit of fuzzy family. Yeah, Ash was kind of giggling

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Speaker 2: a little bit behind the scenes here, Ash, does your

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Speaker 2: man like a bit of video game?

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Speaker 5: You No, my fiance does not play video games.

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Speaker 1: But would it be a heel breaker?

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Speaker 5: Well, I had an ex who it wasn't until he

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Speaker 5: moved in that all of a sudden, big gaming element of.

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Speaker 1: His life came out. So it was kind of a hidden.

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Speaker 5: Hobby until he moved into my apartment and then he

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Speaker 5: was gaming every and it was around the time he

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Speaker 5: so lost his job, so he was gaming twenty four seven.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I was interested in the Xbox?

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Speaker 3: What was his go to game? Do you know?

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Speaker 5: Ash, I don't really know a lot about video games,

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Speaker 5: but he was talking to people on his headphones and

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Speaker 5: like tactically, you know, trying to find the location of

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Speaker 5: certain things are in battle or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you.

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Speaker 1: Dumped him.

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Speaker 3: Confronting two When you come home from work and you

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Speaker 3: hear your partner in the other room guard, yeah, got him?

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Speaker 6: All, Yeah, you want that.

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Speaker 3: I gotcha this because you don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 3: and I mean we hear conversations like that coming from

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Speaker 3: Tom's office and he's never played a video game in

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Speaker 3: his life.

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Speaker 1: You want that? Oh yeah, you want that cheap? Such

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Speaker 1: a cheap juck. Okay, would it be a deal breaker

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Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, I don't mind it, Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: think any I even and I'm just going to put

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Speaker 1: it out there, even some body that sits on the

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Speaker 1: couch and watches a little bit too much TV lobtown

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Speaker 1: is like, but then.

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Speaker 2: They turn around to you and go, hang on a minute,

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Speaker 2: you collect teatawels.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't take up anyone else's time but mine.

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Speaker 2: That's something that they might consider boring, watching TV that

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Speaker 2: eats into time spent living.

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Speaker 3: See my wife is addicted to op shops along with

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Speaker 3: my mum. But do you know what I'm feeling? Your

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Speaker 3: own really down at the moment that you get a

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Speaker 3: fashion parade every day, Like I have a look at

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Speaker 3: this made in Italy, amazing? Who cares? You got it

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Speaker 3: for like six bucks?

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Speaker 2: May no one wants it, No one cares.

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Speaker 1: Just show a little bit of it. She's had to

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Speaker 1: watch you and your boys play football.

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Speaker 7: I wear y d stop trying to sell this. I'm

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Speaker 7: a tarot cash guy.

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Speaker 1: Get about.

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing a vest from from Connor.

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Speaker 1: Wade's been brave enough to call in for enough to do.

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Speaker 7: Sorry Wade.

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Speaker 6: So look, I enjoy a good video game. Look, I

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Speaker 6: don't care.

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Speaker 4: I'm thirty five. It gives me a break. But as

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm also a personal trainer, so I still

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Speaker 4: keep myself healthy every other day of the week. It

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Speaker 4: gives me a chance to train to bonds with my

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Speaker 4: daughter as well, because she loves video gaming, So me

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Speaker 4: and I would like to play games together. And my

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Speaker 4: wife actually likes it because she knows that I'm at home,

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying myself and I'm not out getting blind, drunk

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Speaker 4: or gambling, so she doesn't care.

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Speaker 3: Do you have limits on yourself?

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Speaker 7: Wide?

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Speaker 3: Do you have Like do you say to your wife,

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Speaker 3: can I have an hour here? Or how do you

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Speaker 3: do it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So, like we usually obviously spend a day with the

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Speaker 6: kids at night where the kids have their bedtime routine.

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Speaker 6: Then we obviously allocate time together and then I'm like,

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Speaker 6: you know, maybe an hour or two here or there

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Speaker 6: on the weekend where I go, Honey, I just want

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Speaker 6: to have some space and just to play some games.

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Speaker 6: She goes, Yeah, go for it. She spends her time. No,

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Speaker 6: no fortnight. I'm not into that stuff.

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Speaker 3: What what are you doing? What's the game of choice

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Speaker 3: for me?

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Speaker 6: I like playing first person shooters or sports games more competitive,

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Speaker 6: love that, I understand.

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Speaker 3: Do you talk to other people as well?

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Speaker 4: Wade?

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Speaker 3: Do you get on the headphones?

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Speaker 6: I used to? Not any more than most of those are?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: Is actually when you kill people, they do a term

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Speaker 6: called tea bagging, where you the top of them and

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Speaker 6: bounce up and down. So it's like a way to

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Speaker 6: say to someone stuff, I kill job.

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Speaker 2: So you just don't, don't before you're dunking.

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Speaker 7: If you can't virtually tea bag these days, then what

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Speaker 7: can you do? You know what I mean? It's better

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Speaker 7: than getting.

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Speaker 1: Doing it a time when he's about gambling.

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Speaker 7: I think your wife would prefer you to be drunk gambling. Okay,

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Speaker 7: as just completely lost the plot.

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