1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Better than the Lego, better. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Than Leo coops. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: If Nathan clearly they're they're expecting him back first week 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: of the finals. If he doesn't return, will Penrith win 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: the competition? 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: He has to think, so, yeah, yeah, I think. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I think. I think they'll relish the challenge. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: They're much better having Nathan in it. I think, I 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: like you. I think their whole game style and we've 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 2: seen when he's been out for long periods of time 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years they don't fall back 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: too far. So I still think they can win enough games. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: They were finish in the top four. My thing is 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: like they've said that he's going to be back for 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Week one of the finals. I think Ivan obviously knows 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: his son better than anyone else, just needs to play 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: the Nathan card at the right time. They can get 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: to a Grand Final, they can get to a prelim 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: without him. I believe that, and I think Ivan does too. 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: But when you roll Nathan out at sixty seventy eighty percent, 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: that's when you need him on the field for presence, leadership, 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: big plays, helping other people feel comfortable. Now, if you 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: bring him back in three weeks time, week one of 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: the finals, and he's underdone because that shoulder apparently has 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: been out a couple of times. I think that's just 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: a bit of a decoy. I think they're just going 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: to see if they how far they can get through 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: this comp and then play him at some stage. 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Because whenever he does take the field, it's going to 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: be a roll of the dice. Roll the dice when 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: you really have to. 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, because if you go week one, bring 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: him out and it pops again, deflation in Paris, belief 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: to do it just being gone. But if you get 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: through another week, they win week one, get another week off, 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: there's another two weeks on top of time to improve it. 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: You just know how if they lost them for the year, 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: you just know that they get together that Soonior blokes 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and as I said, they just realised the challenge. I 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a side who can absorb 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the loss of a marquee player like Penrith. I'll tell 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: you why they need just to adjust. 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why they can because defensively great, you 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: don't need to be the best player in the competition 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: to make tackles. Their system is proven. They don't give 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: the opposition lots of chances. They don't turn the ball 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: over cheaply, they don't give penalties, and when you can 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: defend your line for long periods of time, the opposition 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: get frustrated and think I'm going to go to option two, 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: three four here. Then all of a sudden they drop 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: the ball and a little I might scoop it up 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: and run distance edwards might do something great. So that's 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the reason why they keep games always close, because they 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: double down on the hard parts of it and then 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: one of their players just come up with an opportunity. 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny, because you know, just talking about their 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Penrith don't win on the back of brilliance. 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: They've got some brilland in they have brilliant players. 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: They bring at players, but they win by just bit 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: by bit wearing a team down. 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: And if I'm Jerome Lewie and I'm Fisher Harris and 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: this is my last ride with the Penrith dynasty, I'll 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: tell you what. I'm giving it everything I got. And 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Louis has been terrific with no Nathan this year is 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: Loui has been a terrific player for a long period 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: time that I'm happy to say it has been his 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: best year easily. 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Coops last year Stephen Crichton, whatever happened that we lost 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: the Origin Series, but Stephen Crichton was outstanding in the 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Origin Series last year and he's just kept going with that, 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: went to a new club and he's just continues gone 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: to another level. It's been the same with Jerome this year. 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Out of the Origin Series, he has just gone way 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: up and off to the Tigers. Next year they'll be 75 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: hoping he can do the same thing. 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: Here's one. Did you put Louis in the seven jersey 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: or do you have him staying six and bring someone else? 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: I throw him the seven? 79 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because he was very good. 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: I think he owns own that. 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: And I think he'd you know, with no Nathan there 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: in this next month. It's a big one for Isaiah. 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Ye like the little adjustment Isaiah oh made in his football, 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: because I watch in slippery conditions very often, often penrith 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: On those sweep shapes just end up playing a little 87 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: bit too sideways, so their football just goes towards the 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: touch on a little bit too much. You watch Isaiah 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: here what he does. He stands wider, he stands wider. 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't sweep as such. You'll see it better here. 91 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: It's a wider it's a difficult pass for Nathan, but 92 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: it just squeeze. It's so much better, more effective. 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: Really like a good variation to what Pentereth normally do. 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: And the best part I like it is Munster here 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: sees a big body Isaiah oh and thinks, oh, I've 96 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: got to have to turn in. I can't sort of 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: put my eyes on two defenders. And then how Eth 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: he had dealing Edwards out the back. So he's worried 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: about the speed of Edwards's big body going in little 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: short pass because it's normally the other way around. It's 101 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: normally Yo Cleary Lewis or something. This time they've gone 102 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: on the fringes, which made Monster feel like he had 103 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: to hold longer and then lent in. 104 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Your old Melbourne they almost did a Penrith on Penrith 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: by wearing them down through the spine. Penrith do it 106 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: by inside balls, inside balls, inside balls, make the opposition meals, 107 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: just burn them out. Melbourne did it the other night 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: by just taking on the big blokes relentlessly with their speedmen, 109 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: and they. 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: Took their opportunities. In the first st half there was 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: that scrum try. There was two kicks, I believe. But 112 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: whenever Melbourne Storm are up for a bare occasion. You 113 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: can tell that through the running game of Munster and 114 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: Hughes start to both halves, they become run first mentality. 115 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Halves run on the ball months and made a line break. 116 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: So did Jerome Hughes. The threat of those guys to 117 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: run early, it says to everyone else is the direction 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: we're going. And then the playmaking comes off the back. 119 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: They got Pappenhouse and floating around in the middle as well. 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: It's a handful. And the other bloke coming off the 121 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: bench who has been I think if you're given a 122 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Dalian medal for the most improved player in the copts, 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Tyrant wish out, Tyron wish out came on. What I 124 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: like about this? Right? Your sea sides, the top sides 125 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: like to defend as a collective. But when you play 126 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: like that, like he's just done, then a direct run 127 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: taking a guy on one on one, he doesn't allow 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: a team to defend as a collective. 129 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: This play here is amazing because if you go back, 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: Nelson's off the field, so's Munster right the threat, so 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: they're down to twelve players, the threat of Hues and 132 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: everyone else out the other side of the field. All 133 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: the eyes of Penrith went to the other side. He 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: just showed and go and went straight through. But it's 135 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: a bit different point of difference for Melbourne because they 136 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: don't normally have a ballplaying middle. He can come on 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: and do that once the game has been broken up 138 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: a little bit. That's a very classy player. Look edwards 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: des eyes are guy on defensively and went straight through. 140 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Okay, we're just talking there about sweep shapes, right when 141 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: you sweep across, Now, the very nature of block formations 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: and sweeping around is that you're skimming almost across the 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: defense and in a lot of ways you are allowing 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: the opposition to defend as a unit, you know. But 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: when you just turn and you just run gun barrel straight, 146 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: there's twelve blocks in the defense line, right, But defense 147 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: line is one man thick, ye know, and that enables 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: you just for a one on one miss in you through. 149 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: I Like the other thing, he over exaggerated the cell 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 2: to the right hand side, like he looked outside planning 151 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: his feet. Did the big exaggerated dummy and they all 152 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: fell for it. And that's he knew that from where 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: go he was always going to do that good play monster. 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: The other part too, that I thought about the Melbourne 155 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 2: Storm was Brian thought was one of the smallest singers 156 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: in the competition right, and I liked that they went 157 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: off through him and isolated with William Warbrick. There was 158 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: a kick there that Munster set across the field here 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: it is here and Warbrick goes up, competes and Cartel 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: gets it. And it's one area. There's not too many 161 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: chinks in that Penrith defense, but the height of Brian 162 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: tot on the wing up against someone like William Warbrick 163 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: is an area that if you are coming up against 164 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Penrith you need to isolate. So any half that plays Penrith, 165 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: when you get to the fifth tackle and attacking possess area, 166 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: your kicking game has to be spot on. And I 167 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: thought months to do a good job there. 168 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Bulldogs Cooper, who'd you say that you think that they 169 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: would benefit more from finishing fifth as opposed to getting 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: into that top four. 171 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, they are fighting for full spot and with that 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: momentum and potentially results go their way, they could get there. 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: But this is a team that hasn't played finals for 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: a long time. The support at Belmore and the Dogs 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: through this run is getting bigger and bigger. They're coming 176 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: out of the woodworks. The momentums building and I think 177 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: for a team that hasn't played finals, gets that emotional 178 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: hit of a home game, finishing fifth or sixth at 179 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: a course stadium and they get close to selling the mate, 180 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: they would go close to selling that out. And for 181 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: a young team that hasn't got a lot of experience 182 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: playing finals, that big occasion being a team that's below 183 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: them on the ladder, get that adrenaline going. I think 184 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: they're a better chance of doing that and progressing the 185 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: next week. 186 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Then that could that winning moment. There's every chance week 187 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: one of the finals could be it could be Bulldogs 188 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: versus Dragons. Wouldn't that be something? 189 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: It would be Yeah, and that would be solid. That 190 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: is ninety thousand people at the course stadium and I 191 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: just feel for the Dogs. There's if they finished top 192 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: four and play Melbourne at Amy Park, it's going to 193 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: be a tough deal bounce back and then win the 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: next week. 195 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I think sura when you said that. I thought, I 196 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: don't know that when you explained like that. There there's 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of merit in it, and. 198 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: If they get the adrenaline rush of winning in front 199 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: of their home crowd, then they can go and beat 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: the team that lost in Week one of them. I 201 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: was coming down hopefully there's something in their favor, But 202 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't think Cameron Sorodo will do this. But if 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: I'd be playing for fifth, yeah, right, It's tricky. 204 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: It's truey, they have risen dramatically coops, and there's one 205 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: thing synonymous with sides who really shoot the lights out 206 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Let's go a couple of examples. Penrith 207 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: too thousand and three. A lot of people haven't tip 208 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: for the wooden spoon. They win the competition. Tigers really 209 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere in two thousand and five, very young, 210 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: bit by bit on the rise, but early in that 211 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: year they are on the end of some pretty big hidings. 212 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: They win a competition. What is synonymous with those teams 213 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: is that they developed their own unique style football, and 214 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: the Dogs have done the same. Basically, why he's playing 215 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: with out front rowers, light fast moving pack, incredibly fit, 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: skool based game, lots of chain passing. There's elements of 217 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: the game that actually remind me quite a bit of 218 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: the two thousand and five titles. But they're not trying 219 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: to play Diet Melbourne. They're not trying to play Diet Panthers. 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: They're playing a bulldog style of football. 221 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And the thing about that is it is risk verse 222 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: reward because if the game gets in their favor, the 223 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: ball is live. They have smaller bodies moving around more agile, absolutely, 224 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: but if it stops start and the opposition has a 225 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: big forward pack, the bigger body is will win the 226 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: collision majority. But one thing I love for the Dogs 227 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: is there sort of work ethic. They're scrambled defense. They 228 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: save more tries than score. That's enough for me footy team. 229 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: That's that's where those middle forwards come into play, because 230 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: they're scrambled defenses is the best to go. 231 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: They've got such a fast moving defense line to defend 232 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: like they are, it's a little bit of outside in 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: and really rushing up. You've got to be fit. It's 234 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: very hard for one hundred and twenty klo bloke to 235 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: be going up and back where of course they've got 236 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the light pack that enables them to do that, and. 237 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: They've evolved too from round one because I think we 238 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: said you're talking about they could potentially have the best 239 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: left side attack in the comp with Burton kick at 240 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Okar and at that stage Crichton was there. Now Krichten's 241 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: moved to the right, they can still go left through 242 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Burton and kickout when they go right. They've now got Sexton, 243 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: they've got kind of Tracy and what Crichton's doing one 244 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: on one with any other center at the moment, it's dangerous. 245 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the buyers of the season. Stephen christ 246 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: to standout. There's not even a second, but I tell 247 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: the other bloke to who, of course, of Crichton's impact, 248 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't so much put him in the shadows, but 249 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: he's not quite getting I don't think the poorest he 250 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: deserves is Bronson Cherry. Now he's getting. People have given 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: plenty of he's getting plenty of raps. He has been 252 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: he has been outstanding, Bronston Cherry. 253 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: I think it's Stephen Crichton is almost by the year 254 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: captain of the Year. He has had an incredible season 255 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: and Serrealdo made that call before the preseason. Everyone's like, oh, 256 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: that's a big call. It's gonna be capping in your club. Well, 257 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: now we're all sitting back on that is that is 258 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: the greatest decision that he's almost made at that club 259 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: for a long period time and a good guy in 260 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: terms of come finals time. What he's done at Penrith, 261 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: what he's experienced is going to be tenfold of advice 262 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: to that younger crew. 263 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: It's it's just exciting when you see a club, well 264 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: a group of players. A lot of those guys have 265 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: had opposition foot on their head now for a number 266 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: of years. All of a sudden when they start to 267 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: win and win and win, how everything just goes through that. 268 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: And I think a little bit sometimes when you win, 269 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: you've got to get a little bit of luck. And 270 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: if they do finish fifth and win that first week, 271 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: maybe they get a team that's been beaten up in 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: week one of the finals in that top four that 273 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: might have an injury, might have something that comes out 274 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: of it, because those top four teams are fighting for 275 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: the week off, so it might be just that they 276 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: get the rails run and get an opportunity. 277 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: Another bloke who's contender for Buy the Year is Luke 278 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Brooks thought they did something. 279 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: Really was it the start? The here he was he 280 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: was flying of ladies. 281 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: Been good, He's come back out of it again. He 282 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: really clever thing he did. He and Tom Travoyevitch have 283 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: developed this great combination. It's a double drop off. It's 284 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: a different than just double drop off to the next 285 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: Johnny play, which has spoken about before, very very clever play. 286 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: And he and Tom have developed this great combination together 287 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: through that play. And there's one early in the game 288 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: against the Warriors. Now have a look what's about to come. 289 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go next Johnny. He comes 290 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Tom nut missing bang, So you have just threw him out. 291 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: What it did to that defender. 292 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: And from a coaching perspective, Webster goes all week. When 293 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: Tom Travoyevitch comes inside off Luke Brooks near Coorey, I 294 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: want you to go and get him. So what do 295 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: the manly seagulls do? Send the bait near Corey takes it, 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: goes to Tom and then they just flick him straight 297 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: through that next sole there. So that is that's the 298 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: kind of stuff that this back end of the year, 299 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: and in September you start adding layers to your performance, 300 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: and that's a good insight to some of the players 301 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: we might see because using up your gun player Tom 302 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Travoyvitch is the deco everyone says, give them all the time. 303 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: I get it, give him a lot of ball, But 304 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: the other side of it, you just might use them 305 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: up a deco at some sex that is brilliant, brilliant 306 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: ball playing from Ltbrooks. 307 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Toddy Payton, big call dropping chat Townsend brought in Jake Clifford. 308 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: My honest opinion, what did you think of it before 309 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: it happened. 310 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I applaud him for it. I'll tell you why, because 311 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: something had to change in that football side, whatever it was. 312 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: They're very hard from side to follow. They've been really inconsistent. 313 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Something had to change. 314 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I liked it for a couple of 315 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: reasons because it was such a poor performance that second 316 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: half the week earlier at home. You can't go and 317 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: drop six guys for not doing their bit right. And 318 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: defensively Townsend hasn't been up to scratch. And the fact is, 319 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: if you want to influence five or six people to improve, 320 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: just go to the big half back and drop him, 321 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: particularly when you've got a younger half back with younger legs, 322 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: better kicking game, more of a running threat, and apparently 323 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: has been carving it up in reserve grades. So I 324 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: liked it before it and I liked it for his 325 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: performance on the weekend too, because he looked very comfortable. 326 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: I was so happy for him. He's a terrific young bloke. 327 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Shake Clifford and his story as he came through, for 328 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: people that don't know at the Cowboys sort of emarked. 329 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: He comes this young guy coming through, almost the guy 330 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: who's going to replace Thirst and whatever reason, it just 331 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: didn't turn out that way. He looks like a bloke. 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: He's a very nice young bloke and a lot of 333 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: times you blokes like Jake can be rather sensitive fellows 334 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: went to Newcastle, played some good football here and there. Newcastle, 335 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he was treated particularly 336 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: well there. I think I think there was a few 337 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: things going on. Anyway, he left there and he went 338 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: the whole How many times we said on this there 339 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: is a history of people who go to the North 340 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: of England and come back. 341 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: Particularly Half like strangely enough has. 342 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah playmakers that Gavin Miller was saying, they go there's 343 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: a different style of football they're just out of the 344 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: spotlight a little bit, a little less pressure and they 345 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: come back. And for him to come into the side, 346 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: like as you said, he's been carving up, he just 347 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: looks a different blake. He's come back a more mature player. 348 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: My thing with Jake is, if I had to give 349 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: him some advice is Jake, don't get in the way 350 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: of yourself. I have the discipline to have no more 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: self doubt because mate, he can play. He showed that 352 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: in the weekend. Mate. The blueprint is there for him. 353 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: That's how you play football. 354 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: I think the other bit of advice is don't get 355 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: caught up in all the cools try scoring line breaks 356 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: that kind of flick past his stuff. The reason why 357 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: he was brought in instead of Townsend is the basics 358 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: Towns of defense wasn't at the scratch yep. Jake Cliffor's 359 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: a good, strong defender, no issues on the weekend. His 360 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: kicking game is a younger leg, it's bigger and more effective. 361 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: But then he also ran the footing, so that's the thing. 362 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: It's a building blocks of halves. Don't go straight to 363 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: how many tries can I score or set up? Go 364 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: straight to the hardest part of the game, defense, kicking 365 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: and run, the footing. 366 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing in that coops. If you if 367 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: you've got playing, if you're playing in the halves, you're 368 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: a playmaker and you've got size and you're a really 369 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: good runner to the football. Jeez, what an event ise 370 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: that is simply because it enables you to get the ball, 371 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: have a look up the defense, don't really like what 372 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: I see. I'm just going to take him on. So 373 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like you can play as simple as 374 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: you want and you're still going to be a threat. 375 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: Since I can't explain this, but since nineteen o eight, 376 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: at the beginning of rugby league, if you concentrate on 377 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: the hard parts of the game, like your defense, some 378 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: reason why your attack helps, right, But if you concentrate 379 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: on attack, it does not help your defense because I 380 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: think it is being in an aggressive mindset, particularly if 381 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: you're half an aggressive mindset to tackle or run the ball, 382 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: you're in a better mind frame of mind to step, move, 383 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: take the line on, see things a little bit more clear, 384 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: and then a flick pass comes out? 385 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: Is it? Defense is anything? When aside is in the 386 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: mood to defend, it just says everything about their attitude. 387 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: It's a good bounce back from the Cows. It was 388 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: like it was it was an impressive We've seen this 389 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: a thousand times where they deliver you a really good 390 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: performance and then they drop off the blood. 391 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Titans just really disappointing the last couple of 392 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: weeks after they had a good run. It is he's 393 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: having some problems with the spine, finding the right spots 394 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: for working out the puzzle. AJ Brimson on the weekend 395 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: stayed on the bench till ten minutes ago. What happened there, 396 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: But we're not coaches. 397 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 2: So we don't live in the brains of coaches. But 398 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: they were poor and I think what counter Kinney, what 399 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Campbell and feign have delivered. I think they've found their 400 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: answer what their spine is in my opinion, and Aj 401 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: Brimson is an origin player. He cannot be sitting on 402 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: the bench with a roster that's not as good as others. 403 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: And there for sixty minutes, it was a strange thing 404 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: that they were chasing points and the Dragons I think 405 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 2: went down a player and they didn't bring Aj on. 406 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: I thought that would be the perfect time to bring 407 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: him on. Maybe he's an in change for that comes 408 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: on and plays a utility role like Tyrone Wishart does, 409 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: but he plays sixty minutes. He plays long minutes. It's 410 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: either that or is in the centers. 411 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: I'd love to see him at thirteen. Yeah, I'd love 412 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: to see him pinballing through the middle. I don't like 413 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: him the centers because it takes him away the area 414 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: of the field is most dangerous against the big blows. 415 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Just pinging around a little bit you do great, agree, and. 416 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: It might help you know, the Titans ball players to 417 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: get him on a first receiver where he can use 418 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: his footwork and bounce across and then open up for 419 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: cure and four and sometimes. So you know, I think 420 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: he's probably. 421 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: Should be Dragons who got themselves into the eighth. 422 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: It's like that eighth spot. No one wants that the 423 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: Dolphins have an opportunity they drop it than the Dragons. 424 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: What a monster game on Sunday. You've got the Dragons 425 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: up against the Sharks the local derby down in Woolengong. 426 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: After that, they've got I've got the heels after that, 427 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: and they've got it. They've got a decent run hate 428 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: if they can just if they can find a way 429 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: to win on Sunday, they lock them into the top eight. 430 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, the only problem with that they have to win 431 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: because they're four and against his poor So the Dolphins 432 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: have a positive one and they've got a tougher run. 433 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: The Dolphins, they play the Broncos and night Storm Storm stage. Yeah, 434 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: so they have got a tougher run. So it is 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: absolutely pole position for the Dragons right now. Who would 436 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: have thought that a while ago, but I thought, you know, 437 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: it's almost like you can't trust that eight spot at 438 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: the moment, but they have got the avenger of the moment. 439 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: It's like the Dogs. It's a great story, done a 440 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: great job. Flanner. I heard him interviewed when he sort 441 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: of right at the back end of their preseason and 442 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: he just spoke about how he's just got them fit. 443 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: He said, there's a number of forwards in there. He said, 444 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: he just took a lot of Kolas off them. 445 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: We love a storyline and Dragons by Flanagan potentially going 446 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: to be in the eight and his first year at 447 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: the Dragons. Or you got Wayne on the other side, 448 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: who went to the new club, hasn't played finals. You 449 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: don't think he wants that on his resume before, so 450 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: it's there for the taking. It is there for the taking. 451 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be an interesting final series, just 452 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a question for it. Where are the Roosters at at 453 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: the moment? 454 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: I think their challenge is the eighty minutes. He played 455 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: the Eels and did what they had to for fifty 456 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: minutes obviously tough conditions. But then they are also let 457 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: it slip and then put the foot down against Manly 458 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, same situation. So they've got the ability, 459 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: but you cannot do that against Melbourne or Penrith, even 460 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: without Nathan. You can't play for fifty sixty minutes expect 461 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: to get the job done. So I think for them 462 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: the challenge is it doesn't matter who they play the 463 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Titans this week. It is literally playing like as if 464 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: you're playing finals. Play the opposition without the jersey on 465 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: and do the things that you need to do to 466 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: lock it down. Because they've got three weeks to get 467 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: all their game together. 468 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Cha, let's help look at them to finish off the 469 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: moment of the weekend. The hammer he's chase on Josh 470 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: had Ocar the Fox incredible, Like his head just doesn't move. 471 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: He's not even as wat kids, He's just gone. That's 472 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: for I've got to get him. Isn't that amazing? 473 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. I'm so jealous it. He doesn't even 474 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: look like he's trying to watch her car. Is given 475 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: it everything he's got. And look at look at Hammer. 476 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: He's just in cruise control, eyes on his target. 477 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Herbie squeezing and the Hammer is just gliding. 478 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: The other thing too. That was a hell of a moment. 479 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: And then even after the game, the camera's got josh 480 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Adakar and the Hammer together to talk about it. Both 481 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: of them compete on every play, but obviously got a 482 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: connection there. It was a hell of a moment. I'd 483 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: love to see him I thought was there, I thought 484 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: he was home. 485 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as I think, I think Fox thought he's. 486 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: Probably blaming the Hamstring take you out on there. 487 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: Would I'd just love to see the Hammer really open 488 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: up a one hundred meters sprint. He looks like a 489 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: two hundred meter run like just that that cruise As 490 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I said before, the great Edwin is four hundred meter heard. Honestly, 491 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: the way they move is almost identical. Let's have look 492 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: some other great chases over the years. This one Rod 493 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Wishart or Tyran's dad is he's never he never lived 494 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: this one down. This is an origin. We're Marty Lang 495 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: look of this and no wish ah man man wish. 496 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: He used to wear he was the only used to 497 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: this funny story. He used to wear the like the 498 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: ankle high boots. 499 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: You remember those, Yeah, when you guys are playing in 500 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: the sixties. 501 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys, I don't know why people would 502 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: do it. They said they used to protect the ankles 503 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. Honestly, you're wearing pit boots. Basically, they 504 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: played a game on the ninety four Kangaroo Tour. Anyway, 505 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: you two. He's on the field and he's got the 506 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: molded studs on. I think they're in France, and he's 507 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: slipping and sliding all over the place. And he came 508 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: off and said, mate, look at the boots. Your footwear. 509 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: It's rule one. I wanted to expect it. Better make 510 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: get yourself, get yourself a pair of boots. Say we're 511 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: out to Wishy and said can get some bo So yeah, 512 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: give him the ankle high ones. Goes, Oh, that's embarrassing. 513 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: Get them off. 514 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: The old twenty mils studs too on him. 515 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the hiking the hiking shoes made Darren Albert, 516 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: my old teammate on Maddie Sears and I reckon he's 517 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: probably the closest to the hammer and how he moves. 518 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Darren Albert, mate, honestly was just. 519 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: The greatest try sea over in history. This one. Oh, 520 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: let's see, it's good. 521 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean and Sears was Quicksilver and just picked him up. Well, 522 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: we just showed Sears he getting run down there. We 523 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: bet it. We'll square up with Seas in this one. 524 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: This is just the most remarkable one ever on Brett Mullins. Mullins, 525 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: who was close to quicks goes around him. Oh Sears, 526 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: he picks up, chases what's this? 527 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow, gets him? Oh wow, that is that's worth 528 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: another look. 529 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Let's have another look at that one. 530 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: But he gives it a five meters head start and 531 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: at that. 532 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: Point, mate Mullow's he was just carving everyone up in 533 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: the competition, like that is that's a good one. That's 534 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: that's the best. On that note, Coops, let's it's cool 535 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: all the day. We can't get better than that stuff. 536 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: Pretty good. H