Speaker 1: High Scrollers is produced on gaddigul Land.
Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this
Speaker 2: country and Elder's past and present.
Speaker 1: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. I'm Brittney Saunders.
Speaker 2: And I'm all right hey, and this is High Scrollers,
Speaker 2: the podcast version of your favorite group chat.
Speaker 1: We've been sharing our lives online for over ten years,
Speaker 1: so who better to catch you up on everything that's
Speaker 1: going viral.
Speaker 2: Oh, plus we talk a lot about ourselves as well.
Speaker 1: Coming up on this episode, Matt has some haters.
Speaker 2: I've been canceled. Finally, everyone, the day, the day has
Speaker 2: finally arrived that I've been canceled. And you know, I've
Speaker 2: been waiting for this. I've been whitened with baited breath
Speaker 2: to the day I get canceled. And it's happening thanks
Speaker 2: to of all things, La Boo boos, deal me and Doll.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Good morning Matthew.
Speaker 2: Now, baby oh, I can't stop.
Speaker 1: We've been in Hebrew bit like, just trying to set
Speaker 1: up for the day and I haven't even heard that song,
Speaker 1: but I just been gone.
Speaker 2: It's going to get stuck in all of your heads
Speaker 2: as well. Hello, good morning, how are we.
Speaker 1: I'm great. Actually, I'm really excited today, Matt. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: my book publication day.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Well by the time you're listening to this, it was yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Gorgina Ballerina Cappuccina. So stoked you're finally actually officially
Speaker 2: a published author. Yeah, it's stunning.
Speaker 1: You're next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully fingers crossed. If I can be bothered? Do
Speaker 2: I have the time to write a book.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about it that I honestly want to
Speaker 1: start writing my second one and then just have it
Speaker 1: done and then say, hey, here's my next book, Like
Speaker 1: no one's asked me, but I think I just want
Speaker 1: to do it anyway because I actually really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: That's my vibe. Get it done so that if someone says,
Speaker 2: write a book, I can go dunning. Oh that's so exciting. No, congrats.
Speaker 2: And where can everyone get the book if they haven't already?
Speaker 1: It's available exclusively via book Topia. But also I have
Speaker 1: gotten my hands on some extra copies myself, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to be putting it in our Fate stores, just
Speaker 1: in the Fate stores, not on the Fate website. And
Speaker 1: I'm doing my book tour which is literally starting this Friday.
Speaker 1: If you're in Fate Society on Facebook you already know.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be touring around our five Fate stores.
Speaker 1: Everyone that's coming is getting a book, but I've also
Speaker 1: got extras. So if you are near a Fate store,
Speaker 1: or if you shop with us at Fate, you'll keep
Speaker 1: up to date with me, and I'll let you know
Speaker 1: when the books are in store if you want to
Speaker 1: run in and get one.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: That's about it. That's my very exciting Monday. Who would
Speaker 1: have thought, after all the shit that we've done on
Speaker 1: the internet for the last ten plus years, I've written
Speaker 1: a bloody book, you'd go back.
Speaker 2: To non digital format in the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after all that it's on paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess the most exciting part of my week
Speaker 2: was that I tried a Mango Lassie.
Speaker 1: I have been dying to know what you think. Matt
Speaker 1: messaged me over the weekend and said, I've just ordered
Speaker 1: a Mango Lassie and I said, oh my god, tell
Speaker 1: me exactly what you think straight away, send me a video.
Speaker 1: And then I thought, no, wait, record it and let
Speaker 1: me react to your reaction on the pod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course I did have a version of
Speaker 2: a mango lassie, but not really. When we were in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas there was the buffet we went to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was more of like a pudding version though
Speaker 1: like it wasn't It's.
Speaker 2: Like a dessert. I'm almost like a cheese ango cheesecake,
Speaker 2: your mossy sort of situation.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited and I hopefully I think I have
Speaker 1: high hopes. But knowing you, you probably we go. Hey,
Speaker 1: here we go. I've got Matt's video. Oh it looks different,
Speaker 1: looks a bit thicker than the ones I get. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's see.
Speaker 2: Here we go train the mango lassie for the first time.
Speaker 2: It's like the shittest straw ever. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 2: mango smoothie but running. And I feel like I need
Speaker 2: it to be a little bit colder than this. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't love it, but I don't hate it. I
Speaker 2: won't be running out to get another one.
Speaker 1: I love that you said yum, but your face was
Speaker 1: like this was saying, yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought you were okay. Do you want to know
Speaker 2: why that rerection? Because there was a fucking bug smushed
Speaker 2: in the top. See how there's no lid on there
Speaker 2: in the top. There was a fucking bug under the lid.
Speaker 2: So there was a bug under the lid.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks a lot thicker than the ones that
Speaker 1: I get. So next time, if you ever come to Newcastle,
Speaker 1: because I know so far away, I'm taking you to
Speaker 1: Raja's Corner. I had Raj's Corner in the It's iconic
Speaker 1: and I'm letting you try one of those.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're on. I'm happy to continue trying other
Speaker 2: ones to see if I can, you know, uh, find
Speaker 2: one that I like.
Speaker 1: But that one didn't look quite right.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't and didn't feel right either. I think
Speaker 2: the bug in the top smashed into the lid.
Speaker 1: Set me on any of you in nwie And I've also,
Speaker 1: i'd like to say I said this in our broadcast
Speaker 1: chat on Instagram last night. I've moved on from the
Speaker 1: mango lassie and I'm now all about the rose lassie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which just nothing seems worse in life than anything
Speaker 2: rose flavored.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had like a rose water cocktail?
Speaker 2: Hate it? Oh? Yeah? Did you try more of an
Speaker 2: elder flower girl?
Speaker 1: It's a similar sort of vibe.
Speaker 2: Rose just rose just is so potent to me and
Speaker 2: like soft and subtle, no, but rose in you know,
Speaker 2: you get your Turkish delight and it's like rose flavor.
Speaker 1: I love a Turkish delight.
Speaker 2: It feels like I'm chomping on a soap. You know.
Speaker 2: There's soaps that our nancy used to have when we
Speaker 2: were younger, and the little naked babies were on.
Speaker 1: The soaps pairs That's right.
Speaker 2: That's what rose.
Speaker 1: In a shed in because we had like a big
Speaker 1: shed when we were kids, and it had a little
Speaker 1: bathroom in the back corner and it had we had
Speaker 1: a an artwork in a frame in there, and it
Speaker 1: was like a pairs ad. Do you remember those? And
Speaker 1: it was like a baby and the bar of soap
Speaker 1: and it was a piece of dcoll and.
Speaker 2: They were in like a little fairy garden or something,
Speaker 2: and they were all, yeah, I know, it was like
Speaker 2: a piece of art in people's homes, and yeah, we
Speaker 2: had we had one as well. God to go back
Speaker 2: in time and see what made people decide to want
Speaker 2: to put pairs ads in their house.
Speaker 1: It's like putting parm olive ad in your house.
Speaker 2: It was a thing so strange. Anyway, I've done the
Speaker 2: mango lassie.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that didn't look right.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So.
Speaker 1: You're going to have to come to Newcastle whenever you
Speaker 1: can be bothered. I know it's a really really far drive,
Speaker 1: but whenever you can be bothered to make the track,
Speaker 1: please come. And we're going to Raja's corner and we're
Speaker 1: doing a video taste test of rose and mango at
Speaker 1: Raj's Corner.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll make a video out of it too,
Speaker 2: down the high scroll as account on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Absolutely please be upstanding for the Royal flush. Well onto
Speaker 1: our royal flush of the week. I'm gonna do mine
Speaker 1: first because it's only really little, but it's the fact
Speaker 1: that Handmaid's Tale new season is out and I think
Speaker 1: this week, oh my stomach just made a weird noise.
Speaker 1: Sorry if anyone heard that. Need a mango lassie.
Speaker 2: Lassie as if it's a Gav Scott or Mitlanter.
Speaker 1: It is curing me at the moment. Not gonna lie anyway.
Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale, I think it's season six, is the newest
Speaker 1: one and it's the final season of the whole series.
Speaker 1: It's out. I've binge watched every episode so far, but
Speaker 1: I've got two remaining. One has just come out and
Speaker 1: then the final one, I believe is coming out this
Speaker 1: week and it's the final episode of the whole thing
Speaker 1: and matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll never do another season.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think that's like the
Speaker 1: end of it and the end of the books. And
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. Number One, you haven't seen Handmaid's Tale.
Speaker 1: Every time I talk to someone and I asked them
Speaker 1: if they've seen it, and they're like no, I'm like,
Speaker 1: how it is my favorite show I've ever watched, my
Speaker 1: favorite series?
Speaker 2: What's it on?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's all over the place. Like when I first
Speaker 1: started watching it, like a few seasons were on Netflix
Speaker 1: and then others were on SBS and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I think it like moves around.
Speaker 2: How many seasons are there in general? And ficks? Do
Speaker 2: I have the time for that?
Speaker 1: It's the kind of show And to all of you listening,
Speaker 1: if you have not watched it, watch it because it's
Speaker 1: the one show. Like my attention span is really bad
Speaker 1: these days. I want to say thanks to TikTok. I
Speaker 1: can't really watch stuff these stays without also watching TikTok
Speaker 1: at the same time, which is terrible. I will say
Speaker 1: but Handmaids is the one show where when it's on,
Speaker 1: I'm like locked I'm locked in and I'm not like
Speaker 1: going to sleep until I've finished. That's like season like
Speaker 1: stay up till three am vibes, because you just need
Speaker 1: to keep watching. It is phenomenal, like the acting, the storyline,
Speaker 1: like the crew, the cast. It makes you believe that
Speaker 1: it's real, Like you know when you finish a show
Speaker 1: and you shut it and then you think that those
Speaker 1: characters are out there in the world and that it's
Speaker 1: actually happening to them. It makes me feel like for
Speaker 1: those of you that have seen it, like I think
Speaker 1: Yearlyad is real. So that my royal flush is that
Speaker 1: the show has released its final season and I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to see what's going to happen in the last episode.
Speaker 1: I won't do any spoilers, and not that I've seen
Speaker 1: the last episode yet, but it's just my favorite bloody show.
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten would recommend. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of favorite shows, but that one probably is my favorite
Speaker 1: show ever see.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Handmaid's Tale is a cultural phenomenon,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I have never heard anyone but
Speaker 2: you talk about it. I feel like, but apart from that,
Speaker 2: I feel you never see clips online. Why don't we see.
Speaker 1: Because it's not the kind of show that would be
Speaker 1: clips online, Like, it's not like viral in that way.
Speaker 2: But think about that Game of Thrones. I've never watched
Speaker 2: an episode of Game of Thrones, but I could probably
Speaker 2: tell you everything that happens in that show, true, because
Speaker 2: I've seen it online clips.
Speaker 1: Like, I can't explain.
Speaker 2: When Game of Thrones last season came out, everyone was
Speaker 2: talking about it, like, like Handmaid's Tale, you are the
Speaker 2: one and only person I've ever heard talk about.
Speaker 1: Its tail has a fan. It's me, no, but I'm
Speaker 1: in like the Handmaid's Tale Facebook group, Like, oh god,
Speaker 1: what there's like two members. No, there's hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 1: It's so popular. I just think you've probably just never
Speaker 1: been on that side of the internet. So your four
Speaker 1: you page has never served it to you. But if
Speaker 1: you started typing in Handmaid's Tale, it would definitely show
Speaker 1: up for you. And also the books, like, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: I bought the book.
Speaker 2: You told me to buy the book on the podcast
Speaker 2: a while ago, and have you read it? No? I
Speaker 2: bought it, though, have you saved my library I have.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of books to get through. But the
Speaker 1: people like, I've never read the books, but everyone raves
Speaker 1: about those two.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh so there's more than one. I only got
Speaker 2: the first one. So is the book that I bought,
Speaker 2: which is just called The Handmaid's Tale? Is that just
Speaker 2: season one?
Speaker 1: It must be. I don't know, Like, don't quote me
Speaker 1: on this, let me just quickly google it.
Speaker 2: God, I'm in for a big ride here. I've got
Speaker 2: books to read, shows to what You're going.
Speaker 1: To be so busy now they're multiple Handmaids Tale books.
Speaker 2: I've got to take four weeks off work just to
Speaker 2: catch up on all the shows that I've been.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah here, so sorry. Yes, there are two main
Speaker 1: books in the Handmaid's Tale series, The Handmaid's Tale, and
Speaker 1: it's sequeled The Testaments. The Testaments is set fifteen years
Speaker 1: after the events of the first book. So there's two.
Speaker 1: That's easy. You'll smash them out in a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then what about the show? What's the show
Speaker 2: based on? Because if there's six season, I think there's both.
Speaker 1: I think it's both. But again, I haven't read the books.
Speaker 2: Like maybe season one is on the book and then
Speaker 2: the other five seasons. They've just made them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, fantastic show. Ten out of ten would recommend,
Speaker 1: and I can't even explain it.
Speaker 2: I'll put it on my list. They're not the non
Speaker 2: existing list. Isn't that funny that we are going, I'll
Speaker 2: put it on my list list? What list? None of
Speaker 2: us are any of us actually writing it in our
Speaker 2: notes on our iPhone going. I'll put it on my
Speaker 2: list and write it down and I'll forget about it.
Speaker 2: I've got that many shows to catch up on. Poker
Speaker 2: Face season two just dropped. I love season one. I
Speaker 2: think it's on stan I haven't heard of it. It's
Speaker 2: got Natasha Leone in it. Is that how you say
Speaker 2: her name? She's from Oranges to New Black?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh. Season one was so good. She has this ability
Speaker 2: to just know when people are lying. And it's a
Speaker 2: really fun show. And I really like to see someone
Speaker 2: a season two's out, I will say, though, why does
Speaker 2: it take so long for shows to come around these days?
Speaker 2: Do you remember, like twenty five years ago, shows would
Speaker 2: pump out twenty five episodes a season, and we'd be
Speaker 2: getting sometimes two seasons a year, like Pretty Little Liars
Speaker 2: we'd have, however, many episodes in Pretty Little Liars, and
Speaker 2: we'd get one every year, remember, because we'd have the
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving break, we'd have the Halloween episode. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: We're such an event each year. And now I feel
Speaker 2: like if they wanted to do Pretty Little Liars, it
Speaker 2: had taken three years to shoot and we get eight
Speaker 2: episodes in the end.
Speaker 1: Another show that you maybe just think of, but I
Speaker 1: don't know the stats is South Park. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: were They don't obviously come out with new episodes now,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but I think they were like extremely
Speaker 1: fast at pumping out a new episodes, like in real
Speaker 1: time with the world. Obviously, that's different because it's an animation.
Speaker 1: It's probably I'm not going to say it's easy, but
Speaker 1: easier than having like actual people acting in the show.
Speaker 1: But I think, I don't know, they do it slow
Speaker 1: to build heype.
Speaker 2: I would say I think it does build build height
Speaker 2: because for me with Poker Face, let's say, I think
Speaker 2: it's probably been two or more years since that first
Speaker 2: season came out. Don't quote me on that, but I've
Speaker 2: gotta tell you a thing that happened back then. H
Speaker 2: you know, now, I'm like, do I need to watch
Speaker 2: it again for a refresh? And maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's they want more people to go back and
Speaker 1: watch the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially, But my thing is can't be bothered. So
Speaker 2: now I might not watch season two. I will. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, for example, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you feel that way, Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: you feel broken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't have enough to I am to
Speaker 2: watch all the things that I need to watch, and
Speaker 2: it's because I like reading so much. Although lately I
Speaker 2: have been in a TikTok doom scroll quite often.
Speaker 1: Every ing bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, anyway, I need to get over that. I need
Speaker 2: to stop that and get my shit together. Anyway, my
Speaker 2: royal flush of the week. Oh my gosh. Actually this
Speaker 2: is so exciting. Everyone strap yourselves in. This is so exciting.
Speaker 2: I am loving myself sick this week because I have
Speaker 2: made it to the dark side of the Internet and
Speaker 2: I was given my own thread on Ossie TikTok snark, which,
Speaker 2: if you don't know, let me give you a little
Speaker 2: bit of a background. It's a reddit. It's a Reddit thread, yes,
Speaker 2: called Aussie TikTok snark, and basically, people just get on
Speaker 2: there and they just beach and moan about all the
Speaker 2: TikTokers in Australia. For Dana is on there a lot
Speaker 2: for Dana is one of the hot topics on that platform.
Speaker 1: It shows up for me every now and then when
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling on like the reddit, like news page or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see it sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well, I made a video for those who don't know,
Speaker 2: a video about la boo boos, right, which have you
Speaker 2: seen la booboos everywhere my whole for you page? Well,
Speaker 2: I do love them like I do look at them
Speaker 2: and go, ye want one? Yeah? Well, good news is
Speaker 2: I think Alie Smith, friend of the pod, friend of
Speaker 2: the pod, yeah, is coming down for your book thing.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure. And so she opened three toffee flavored ones
Speaker 2: or whatever you call them, toffee la booboos, and she
Speaker 2: made a joke in the video saying if anyone wants one,
Speaker 2: let me know. So I've domed and said, well, when
Speaker 2: you come down, bring one because I want one. But
Speaker 2: then that's a good way of doing it that I
Speaker 2: don't need to go and spend money.
Speaker 1: On dont like eighty dollars I think.
Speaker 2: Once you and stuff. Yeah, they really have jacked up
Speaker 2: the price recently eighty dollars.
Speaker 1: For a stuffed toy yeah that you could just get
Speaker 1: from Kmar yeah, or from like a vending machine.
Speaker 2: And I think it's all about the opening and the
Speaker 2: wanting and the vance, which I could just couldn't give
Speaker 2: a shit about. But I do want one, just to
Speaker 2: clip on my bag, just to say I've got one.
Speaker 2: So Alice Smith, hopefully she remembers to bring me down one,
Speaker 2: we'll send her a message and if not, if anyone
Speaker 2: has any doubles, feel free to send them and I
Speaker 2: will accept them, because if you've got doubles and you
Speaker 2: don't want them, just send them my way. Then they
Speaker 2: won't go to waste.
Speaker 1: It is giving. Like I saw you did a TikTok
Speaker 1: and then I did a TikTok. It reminds me a
Speaker 1: little bit just of this buying behavior of when Frank
Speaker 1: Green the drink bottle company was doing their mystery boxes,
Speaker 1: and remember everyone was jumping on and buying the mystery
Speaker 1: box just to do the unboxing on TikTok and reveal
Speaker 1: what colors they got. And then someone commented something on
Speaker 1: that video that I made on TikTok, saying, girl, it's
Speaker 1: just like the lucky dips that we would get when
Speaker 1: we're kids, and I was like, wait a second, in
Speaker 1: the brown paper bag in like a bin at the
Speaker 1: shops or the markets, and you know, it would be
Speaker 1: like boy mystery Lucky dip and girl lucky dip, and
Speaker 1: do you remember that it was like two dollars and
Speaker 1: then you just opened the brown paper bag. It was
Speaker 1: just a bag of crap, maybe like a pencil and rubber.
Speaker 2: Stickers, one of those sticky hands that you against the wall.
Speaker 1: La boo boos are giving lucky dip bag. We've been
Speaker 1: doing this shit since we were kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right. I made a TikTok about it,
Speaker 2: which was basically if you didn't see it. I didn't
Speaker 2: put it on Instagram because, as I've said before, different
Speaker 2: vibes on different platforms. I felt TikTok could handle the joke.
Speaker 2: Instagram would not Facebook. I'd probably have people protesting out
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to play the audio out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, get the TikTok up. But basically, I was
Speaker 2: just trying to make like a joke about the fact
Speaker 2: that you know, read a cost a living crisis and
Speaker 2: everyone's complaining about that and all the rest of that,
Speaker 2: and everything's so expensive. Oh but all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: everyone's got all this money to waste on laboob and.
Speaker 1: Eighty bus Apel told me she got one. I said,
Speaker 1: how much? Eighty dollars?
Speaker 2: But I won't so have a listen to the TikTok.
Speaker 2: This is what I said. I thought no one had
Speaker 2: any money. I thought we're in a cost of living crisis,
Speaker 2: could afford their groceries. Where are all getting the money
Speaker 2: for these fucking laboo boos? The same prine, no wonder,
Speaker 2: You're never gonna have a fucking house.
Speaker 1: And I love that people, if they don't know you. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this has got four million views, yeah, four point three million,
Speaker 1: and you've got nearly five hundred thousand lines.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought it was still at like
Speaker 2: one point.
Speaker 1: Eight, No four point three.
Speaker 2: Oh jesus, no wonder I'm getting canceled.
Speaker 1: Obviously, this is landed on a massive, wide la booboo
Speaker 1: loving audience on TikTok. But I love when you post
Speaker 1: shit like this because as for me or anyone any
Speaker 1: scrollers like, we know you. We know that you've just
Speaker 1: made this to just have a bit of fun. Say
Speaker 1: no wonder you can't afford a bloody hair if I'm
Speaker 1: La Boo Boos. But I can just picture people getting
Speaker 1: so pissed off at this and no, wonder someone's gone
Speaker 1: and made a hate thread for you. Is it a
Speaker 1: hate thread?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get there. But basically, I think one of
Speaker 2: the the factors is due to just being in America.
Speaker 2: I have had such a huge influx of followers since
Speaker 2: we did all the things at Coachella and all of
Speaker 2: the taste tests and everything. You know, there's been so
Speaker 2: many new eyes on makes Dream.
Speaker 1: By the way, can I just say, maybe I feel
Speaker 1: like we need to reminisce close friends, close friends. I
Speaker 1: want to remini Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: And so I feel like I've gotten you know, let's say,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty thousand new people to my page on TikTok
Speaker 2: in the last month who aren't used to that kind
Speaker 2: of side of me that, you know, because it's just satire,
Speaker 2: it's just making a joke. It's like, I really don't
Speaker 2: care if people what people spend their money on. At
Speaker 2: the end of the day, at my core, you can
Speaker 2: spend your money on whatever you'd like, and I don't care.
Speaker 2: But it just is funny, Like, it's funny to note
Speaker 2: that we're all cost of living cost of living, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, everyone's spending all their money. Now,
Speaker 2: it's a good point to say, because people There are
Speaker 2: a few different responses to the video. The first response
Speaker 2: was that there's actually this thing called the lipstick theory.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of that? No, that in times of
Speaker 2: financial crisis and in times of recession, people actually spend
Speaker 2: money on small, little treats because they can't afford the
Speaker 2: big things like holidays and whatnot. So I think the
Speaker 2: trend came from either the it was either the Great
Speaker 2: Depression or like the global financial crisis. Don't quote me,
Speaker 2: you know, I just make shit up on this podcast.
Speaker 2: But all the lipstick sales went through the roof, and
Speaker 2: everyone was buying lipsticks because they couldn't afford to treat
Speaker 2: themselves any other way. So they were buying little lipsticks
Speaker 2: to treat themselves and have a little bit of joy.
Speaker 2: And the booboos are the new modern day lipstick, is
Speaker 2: someject was saying, because if you can't afford to spend
Speaker 2: a lot of money on yourself, you may as well
Speaker 2: waste your money on something small under one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: and totally get that. So true. And then and the
Speaker 2: other response was people being like, says the person who
Speaker 2: just spent money going to America, and says the person
Speaker 2: who just spent sixty five dollars on drinks on Coachella,
Speaker 2: And didn't you just go on a trip to America.
Speaker 2: I was replying as people saying, don't bring me into this.
Speaker 2: I'm a billionaire. The costa living Crissis doesn't mother me.
Speaker 2: I was being real cheeky. I was going, this doesn't
Speaker 2: affect me. I got forty five investment properties. Love, I'm rich.
Speaker 2: I'm rich. I'm not complaining about the cost of living Crissis.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here with too many groceries. Actually, I'm getting
Speaker 2: refunds on my groceries. I was just in such a menace,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But you're in a mood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in a silly, goofy mood. But see
Speaker 2: people who don't know that meeh, then they take that
Speaker 2: and go in the reddit thread. You should have seen them,
Speaker 2: so the reddit thread pops up. They're just the reddit
Speaker 2: thread was just called alright, hey, and I think what's funny?
Speaker 2: What funny is on Reddit. If you are like not
Speaker 2: spoken enough about, if you're not spoken about enough, it
Speaker 2: actually tells everyone that. What. So I got this thread
Speaker 2: It said all right, hey, you nussy TikTok snark, and
Speaker 2: then underneath it said not relevant enough for their own flair. Oh,
Speaker 2: because I've never spoken about which, by the way, I
Speaker 2: just want to put it out there and make it clear.
Speaker 2: Seeing my name in Aussi TikTok snark, someone someone DMed
Speaker 2: it to me on Instagram and said, just want to
Speaker 2: let you know, Yeah, there's this thread about your on
Speaker 2: Aussie TikTok snark and I went here, we fucking go girls,
Speaker 2: We're on here. I was so excited. I was actually
Speaker 2: out to dinner with my friends and I said, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. I've got to stop because I've just made
Speaker 2: it onto Aussi TikTok snark. They had no idea what
Speaker 2: was going on. Anyway, I'm reading through. So the first
Speaker 2: person said, you know, how disgusting it was that I
Speaker 2: had said that, and how out of touch and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway, then there were like
Speaker 2: thirty replies to it, and not one person agreed with them.
Speaker 1: Oh no, so your fans are in there.
Speaker 2: The fans are in there, going it's just satire, like
Speaker 2: if you know, all right, hey, you know it's a joke,
Speaker 2: like blah blah blah blah, all like, and literally no
Speaker 2: one agreed with that person. And then this has actually
Speaker 2: happened a couple other times when I feel a couple
Speaker 2: other of these gossip sites or even in the Facebook groups,
Speaker 2: whenever I am mentioned, people will jump in so quickly
Speaker 2: and shut that person down.
Speaker 1: Bless everyone I know, love.
Speaker 2: You for that, Love you so much. And so anyway,
Speaker 2: in the end, I was at dinner. Remember, so I've
Speaker 2: seen it. I've scrolled through, I've read everything, and I've
Speaker 2: seen the one person say something, you know, have a
Speaker 2: problem with me, and then every single other person and
Speaker 2: every other person's reply as well then had like I
Speaker 2: don't really know how red it.
Speaker 1: Works, but it's red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the comments, but then they all had votes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people like liking it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like they all all the replies then had
Speaker 2: thirty six up votes and things as well, So people
Speaker 2: are clearly.
Speaker 1: I think that's just like like okay, like I.
Speaker 2: Agree, okay, So then we've got people defend, but then
Speaker 2: also a lot of people liking the posts as well,
Speaker 2: and so anyway, then I'm at dinner, so I thought
Speaker 2: I put my phone away, come back to this later.
Speaker 2: But this is so exciting. I'm so excited about this
Speaker 2: finally relevant enough to be in a reddit fair. I
Speaker 2: mean really, at the end of the day. This is
Speaker 2: what I think is so funny about these people. Is
Speaker 2: you talking like, if you really don't like someone like
Speaker 2: the Fidhan thread, you're actually keeping her so relevant?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I know hates like anyone the ones that
Speaker 1: And I've said this forever, and I feel like I've
Speaker 1: spoken about this on my social media for ages. But
Speaker 1: the first time that I remember reading something nasty about
Speaker 1: myself online was back when I was nineteen and twenty.
Speaker 1: That's when my YouTube started to kick off and I
Speaker 1: had my thirty thousand subscribers, And there was a website
Speaker 1: that existed back then, which I don't think exists anymore.
Speaker 1: I think it's like it was like Reddit, but maybe
Speaker 1: Reddit wasn't a thing back then, but it was called
Speaker 1: Guru Gossip, and it was it was just about all
Speaker 1: the beauty gurus, and I guess back then, like I
Speaker 1: was trying to be a beady guru or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I had my own thing on there. And so I'm
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty at the time, I don't have anywhere
Speaker 1: near the amount of confidence that I have now. Like
Speaker 1: I'm young. I just I was still working full time.
Speaker 1: I was making my YouTube videos like on the side
Speaker 1: for fun, and I remember stumbling across I had my
Speaker 1: own threat on there, and so I went on this
Speaker 1: website and I started to read the most horrible things
Speaker 1: about myself, mainly about my appearance and about my body,
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of comments about like me
Speaker 1: being a bogan and everything. Because I think for me,
Speaker 1: back then, this is over ten years ago, I was
Speaker 1: the one like beauty guru in Australia that was just
Speaker 1: me like and I'd go, how the fuck I is?
Speaker 1: And back then people didn't think that that was like
Speaker 1: funny or cool or down to earth. I remember people
Speaker 1: would shame me in my comments for like swearing or
Speaker 1: like being a bit bogan because back then it was Hi, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome back to my YouTube channel and my tutori. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take this where I was the one that was
Speaker 1: just being myself, whereas now it's so funny. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, people love if you're down to earth and authentic.
Speaker 1: But back then I got absolutely slammed for it. She's
Speaker 1: Bogan from Newcastle, blah blah blah, comments about my appearents,
Speaker 1: comments about my body, and I remember seeing that for
Speaker 1: the first time, feeling terrible about myself. My insecurities went
Speaker 1: through the roof and reading all these people talking about me,
Speaker 1: and I vowed to myself back then. I remember it's
Speaker 1: so vividly. I'm never looking myself up on the Internet
Speaker 1: ever again, because I can only imagine the damage if
Speaker 1: I kept going back to that thread. And I know
Speaker 1: that it would have kept going because my channel then
Speaker 1: went from thirty thousand subscribes to a million. I know
Speaker 1: that it would have only gotten bigger and bigger and
Speaker 1: bigger that thread the more popularity that I gained. But
Speaker 1: I never went back to it because, like, those words
Speaker 1: would have been so damaging to me. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are a lot of creators out there who do
Speaker 1: read this negative shit about like themselves and they can't
Speaker 1: laugh it off like you. Not that yours was overly negative,
Speaker 1: but I can imagine that shit would eat you alive
Speaker 1: because just me scrolling through it that one time when
Speaker 1: I was like nineteen, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't read this, like this is gonna make me cry.
Speaker 1: So ever since then, I've never googled myself. I've had
Speaker 1: people like you. I've had people link me to things
Speaker 1: and just say, oh, I just want to say, You've
Speaker 1: just been mentioned in the Outspoken podcast group. You've been
Speaker 1: mentioned here and there, because you know, people look out
Speaker 1: for us and they want to send us a screenshot
Speaker 1: and like if it's like a Facebook group post, I'll
Speaker 1: go see it or whatever because I'm in the Outspoken group.
Speaker 1: But if anyone ever sends me anything else, I don't
Speaker 1: fucking I can't look. And I've done that to protect
Speaker 1: like my own confidence and my own mental health, because
Speaker 1: if you read stuff about yourself enough, you'll start to
Speaker 1: fucking believe it. I reckon, and like I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of people that spend their time doing that,
Speaker 1: like you know, posting in threads and being horrible about
Speaker 1: people because like you said, like you're a fan if
Speaker 1: you're in that thread, like for for DN, like I've
Speaker 1: never read her thing, like I actually love read it,
Speaker 1: but more for like funny shit, I don't dare to
Speaker 1: go on any of the gossip things because it's just toxic,
Speaker 1: and like anyone that's spending their time actively participating in
Speaker 1: like hating on someone, but you're still following them, You're
Speaker 1: watching their every fucking move actually, and there might be
Speaker 1: people that do that. To me, you're the biggest fan of.
Speaker 2: All and I think that, like I've made a TikTok
Speaker 2: about this before, but if you and I think I've
Speaker 2: said it on the podcast now that I'm about to
Speaker 2: say it out again, but I think if it's if
Speaker 2: you truly don't like an influencer or you don't think
Speaker 2: an influencer or a content creator, if you are listening
Speaker 2: to us right now and you don't even like us
Speaker 2: and you are hate listening, which is totally fair for
Speaker 2: us because all you're doing is helping us out. And
Speaker 2: I've never understood it. So let's take, for dun, for example,
Speaker 2: the people in the reddit thread. Because obviously then I
Speaker 2: looked around because I, as you know, never go on Reddit.
Speaker 2: But now I've seen all these different people who are
Speaker 2: on this Aussie TikTok's now and I'm reading through all
Speaker 2: the people talking about for Dan. So what they're doing
Speaker 2: is they're all talking about, Oh did you see her
Speaker 2: latest video? This? This, this happened, This happened, This happened
Speaker 2: to me. What you're talking me, You've watched the entire
Speaker 2: six minute flog, which has one benefited her because her
Speaker 2: watch time is now through the roof. You've now posted
Speaker 2: about it in a group, so those people who haven't
Speaker 2: seen the vlog probably want to go and hate on
Speaker 2: her and see what's happened. So you've drawn more attention
Speaker 2: to her page. And I know, for dan's not a
Speaker 2: very good example because she's not too much of an influence,
Speaker 2: so she's got a full time job as a lawyer
Speaker 2: and whatnot, So maybe she's not the best person to
Speaker 2: you know, for this example. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: if you are putting, if you are putting your time
Speaker 2: and energy into watching the full video and then running
Speaker 2: to Redden and talking about it, and then people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: what's happened here, so we'll go and talk about we'll
Speaker 2: go and watch and we'll see as well. All that's
Speaker 2: doing is showing the algorithm that you are enjoying her
Speaker 2: content even though you're hate watching it's telling the algorithm
Speaker 2: that you're enjoying it. That then pushes it to more
Speaker 2: people who have probably never seen for Daran before, so
Speaker 2: they're not they don't have this biased you know, hate
Speaker 2: towards her, so then they might really enjoy her, and
Speaker 2: then they follow her, and that tells the algorithm that
Speaker 2: people are now following her and enjoying the content, which
Speaker 2: pushes her out to more people, which people don't get it,
Speaker 2: which for other influencers, not so much for Darn, but
Speaker 2: for other influencers who you know, work with brands a lot.
Speaker 2: I've only seen for Daran do that once or twice.
Speaker 2: You know. Now they've got more eyes on their page,
Speaker 2: they can charge more money, they can work with more brands,
Speaker 2: they can get more opportunities. They might have enough money
Speaker 2: to then start a business. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Like those girls who were speaking about you on Guru
Speaker 2: Gossip all those years ago.
Speaker 1: I owe them, You owe them a little.
Speaker 2: Bit to just not being funny like to some extent,
Speaker 2: because they it's a train reaction. It's a trickle down effect,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, because the people are almost more interested
Speaker 2: in people when they get to hate on them, especially
Speaker 2: in Australia. So what I'm saying is if you are
Speaker 2: if you really truly hate an influencer or a content creator,
Speaker 2: or you think that they don't deserve a platform, the
Speaker 2: best thing you can do for that is silence, Just unfollow,
Speaker 2: block all the rest of it, and never mention their
Speaker 2: name again. That is actually the most damaging thing you
Speaker 2: can ever do to someone. If you truly hate Brittany
Speaker 2: and hate Fate, will you just shut your mouth, like,
Speaker 2: don't ever speak Fate's name again, because the next time
Speaker 2: you tell someone, ah, I hate this Brittany chick, well,
Speaker 2: they're going to go I've never heard of Brittany. I
Speaker 2: better look her up. And then that tells the algorithm
Speaker 2: that you're, you know, new and noteworthy and someone's out
Speaker 2: of the blue looking you up. You know. So anyway,
Speaker 2: that's a lesson for all of you, because I get it.
Speaker 2: And another thing I want to say is I totally
Speaker 2: get it. I get that sometimes you need to let
Speaker 2: some things out.
Speaker 1: I think the thing dear friends like as well, with
Speaker 1: these anonymous they don't have any I don't be true,
Speaker 1: But even like with like you're spending time on an
Speaker 1: app with an anonymous profile talking to other anonymous people.
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone anything. For a sense of community,
Speaker 2: what I will say is fair enough go off and
Speaker 2: talk about you know, because I do understand if influencers
Speaker 2: have said or done the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, no, feel.
Speaker 2: Free to talk about it. But one one thing that
Speaker 2: I don't like because I do frequent a lot of
Speaker 2: the pages for this podcast, especially when something like you know,
Speaker 2: the an Apple situation. I want to see what people
Speaker 2: are saying and it helps me, you know, widen my
Speaker 2: thought process as well, So I have no shame in
Speaker 2: saying I do often pop onto the pages just to
Speaker 2: collect some recent search for the podcast, for example. But
Speaker 2: I think the thing that I can't stand is the
Speaker 2: amount of body shaming that is on there. I can
Speaker 2: understand talking about someone's actions, yeah, something wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: if they've tried to get a free product here or
Speaker 2: there and you've noticed it or whatever. Totally understand that,
Speaker 2: But just calling people fat bitches and stuff like, I
Speaker 2: just go, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: But also show me what.
Speaker 2: You look at?
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that put yourself out there?
Speaker 2: All four? Like?
Speaker 1: If people want to call me out for anything that
Speaker 1: I'm doing wrong, Like that's fine, but come and do
Speaker 1: it to my face.
Speaker 2: That h collection. That's like, what do you think about
Speaker 2: the haters? And she's like, if you're a hater, I
Speaker 2: want to see your front profile, side profile, full body,
Speaker 2: show the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, post a video to the internet, have it go viral,
Speaker 1: let everyone see you. Then say what you want to say,
Speaker 1: do a three sixty because you're just an anonymous profile,
Speaker 1: Like I just I think anyone, Okay, I'm all for people, influencers,
Speaker 1: creators being called out when they've done something genuinely wrong.
Speaker 1: Like we're all for that obviously, and that applies in
Speaker 1: real life too, not just online. But if someone is
Speaker 1: hating for no reason other than to just simply hate
Speaker 1: to just like I don't get it. But for me
Speaker 1: for example, like if someone was to hate on me
Speaker 1: and just say I hate Brittany and I hate Fate
Speaker 1: but like with no real valid reason or anyone if
Speaker 1: someone hates you, I hate Mattney's videos or whatever. You
Speaker 1: just wish that you could do what we're doing. You reckon, Yep,
Speaker 1: you wish you had the guts to put yourself out
Speaker 1: there and do what we're doing. Because why A you're
Speaker 1: hating from your lounge.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's a good lesson for everyone, because I
Speaker 2: know that the majority of people who listened to this
Speaker 2: podcast wouldn't be able to relate to your name being
Speaker 2: brought up in gossip forums and read it through and
Speaker 2: being spoken about by anonymous people. I feel it that's
Speaker 2: not a very relatable situation for a lot of our listeners.
Speaker 2: But I think that the sentiment can be said across
Speaker 2: the board that like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: anyone who is talking bad about you is not doing
Speaker 2: any better than you are.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, you know, I know for a fact I
Speaker 1: don't spend my time doing that. I would never spend
Speaker 1: my time talking badly about someone else and dragging them
Speaker 1: for the things that they're trying to do. I know
Speaker 1: that the people I associate with my friends people in
Speaker 1: real life that in my life they would never do
Speaker 1: that either. So like, what kind of person is it
Speaker 1: that's doing that exact not someone that I that's the
Speaker 1: other thing too hate on us or you want I
Speaker 1: would never be your fucking friend anyway. I would never
Speaker 1: be your friend, like I like, way to just show
Speaker 1: that I would never even talk to you anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Also, I'd love to just get someone, maybe not
Speaker 1: on this podcast, but maybe on my other podcast. If
Speaker 1: someone hates me that much, I'd love to just interview them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like why do you hate me? And I'll take what
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten? I reckon if someone genuinely
Speaker 1: hated me, maybe someone from the Guru Gossip days. I reckon,
Speaker 1: if they met me or they saw me at the
Speaker 1: pub and we had a conversation, they'd probably like me.
Speaker 2: But I don't think you'd get there.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd say yes to your podcast interview.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't put their face to the name to the anonymous.
Speaker 1: Well, that just proves everything it needs to prove exactly.
Speaker 2: Case closed, Case closed. Anyway, the funniest part about all
Speaker 2: of this big punchline in the end is that I
Speaker 2: said I was out to dinner and saw the thread,
Speaker 2: And after dinner I got home and I went, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we go. I can't wait, I can't wait. I opened
Speaker 2: up reader. Thread disappeared, Oh gone, Why maybe deleted?
Speaker 1: Maybe you had too many supporters?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming the person who first posted it. When
Speaker 2: too many people are Ronnie's side and they ended up them,
Speaker 2: they ended up deleting that. Well, I can only assume
Speaker 2: they deleted the thread, so I really didn't get a
Speaker 2: good look at it. I really don't remember any I
Speaker 2: didn't even get any screenshots. I screenshot the name because
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny that said, alright, hey, not
Speaker 2: relevant enough for their own flair?
Speaker 1: What is flair?
Speaker 2: Like it's it's like a Reddit thing.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, like it was like.
Speaker 2: A highlighted orange thing underneath or something, right, And I
Speaker 2: think it just means like I haven't been spoken enough
Speaker 2: about that I don't get my own threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, well, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if we're being spoken about on Reddit or any platform
Speaker 1: or Facebook group, we're doing something right because we are
Speaker 1: relevant enough to be spoken.
Speaker 2: Of, and please keep talking because it's making me more
Speaker 2: money and I fucking love that because I need to
Speaker 2: buy one hundred La Boo booths.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's another episode done in Dusted Matt,
Speaker 1: and you know what I will. I do have to say,
Speaker 1: I feel like we had a similar conversation sort of
Speaker 1: to this, but like ages ago on the pod about
Speaker 1: online forums and shit. So sorry, not sorry if it
Speaker 1: feels like a bit of a repeat, but we added
Speaker 1: in the Laboo Boo chat. So it's different.
Speaker 2: Now I've actually been thrown into the mix. You know,
Speaker 2: I think I wasn't able to speak from experience.
Speaker 1: Now you can. Now you can anyway. I'm all about
Speaker 1: the positive vibes and if people want to hate on us,
Speaker 1: so be it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, yeah, it does come from experience, though, I
Speaker 2: think the ten plus years we've been doing this, because
Speaker 2: you're so right me ten years ago in fact, I
Speaker 2: remember there used to be a tumbler of where you
Speaker 2: could bitch about Australian influencers and someone once said that
Speaker 2: my highlighter was ugly, and I remember that affecting me
Speaker 2: from all this.
Speaker 1: It's not that I think any of our scrollers would
Speaker 1: ever participate in anything like that, but if you just
Speaker 1: so happen to just be careful with the words that
Speaker 1: you use online, even though it's anonymous, like, words obviously
Speaker 1: have power and they can affect people. So while you
Speaker 1: might think it's all fun and games to be ripping
Speaker 1: someone to shreds in an anonymous thread, like that person
Speaker 1: on the other end could be reading that and it
Speaker 1: could make them feel a certain way. So be careful.
Speaker 1: Not that I think Scrollers would ever do something like that. Anyway.
Speaker 2: My other thing is, well, sorry to harp on about this,
Speaker 2: but people who get in my comments but talk in
Speaker 2: third person like talk.
Speaker 1: Why is he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why is he? Like? They'll get in the comments
Speaker 2: and be like does anyone think he? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right here.
Speaker 1: Rite back to those and I'm like, why are you
Speaker 1: talking as if though I'm not, this isn't my video.
Speaker 2: They're like addressing the crowd. I'm like, okay, talk to me.
Speaker 2: I find that funny too. Anyway, thanks for listening to
Speaker 2: this episode, Scrollers were bloody love you. We'll see you
Speaker 2: on Friday. For our close friends. Make sure your rate comments, subscribe,
Speaker 2: send us an email all the rest don't.
Speaker 1: Right hateful anonymous things online. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Jel, I'll better let you go. I've got to
Speaker 2: go submit a thread on Guru Gossip about you.