WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 21 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Make gift to you tonight for the whole hour, No sooks,

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<v Speaker 2>no leftons, The jewel in the crown. Megan Kelly. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we took the Megan each and every week in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and it is always a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>our week. She is fun, she's feisty, she fires up. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you what tonight I think we have

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<v Speaker 2>our best conversation ever, including her trying to wrap her

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<v Speaker 2>head around a term that maybe only Bogan Nassies used

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<v Speaker 2>but we've used for a while. Hexeth is on his

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<v Speaker 2>third marriage and clearly was a pants man in between

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<v Speaker 2>each of those times.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say he was a pants man?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pants man? What do I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a pants man who means often he enjoys

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<v Speaker 2>not wearing them. The only place that his pants look

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<v Speaker 2>better on the floor. Mad ruder is what we say

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. So ironically, even though you don't need pants

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<v Speaker 2>for the activity, you are referred to as a pantsman.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a person who has been with many

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<v Speaker 2>dare I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say this is thrilling.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned something new about your beautiful culture every time

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<v Speaker 4>I come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you can look forward to this moment, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course looks even better in h day and I have

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<v Speaker 2>you got the biggest house at biggest tilly in your house.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a reason why this takes place. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>she's in.

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<v Speaker 1>A great mood.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a great mood, and this is a fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>conversation we're among other things, she absolutely rips in to

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<v Speaker 2>some of the people in the media. She can't stand.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't just Hitler and fascist, it was also

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<v Speaker 4>eight years of racist, sexist, rapist. That's what he was

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<v Speaker 4>being called all over their show and MSNBC, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all just forgotten. It's nothing. He's not a rapist,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not Hitler. And Trump allowed it, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump likes attention, he wants them talking about him, he

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<v Speaker 4>wants them saying nice things about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't need them.

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<v Speaker 2>Megan Kelly will be the highlight of your week in

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<v Speaker 2>a Nosok's no lefty Thursday. Looking forward to it. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into what we need to talk about tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, we start with the immediate, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>some concerns right now around Queensland, where there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>huge amount of rain that's fallen in parts of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>There's worry in the next couple of days that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to start to move its way even further north.

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<v Speaker 2>About two hundred mills has fallen in the past twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours. Police telling everyone to take it easy.

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<v Speaker 5>What we're seeing already at this time of year is

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot of the ground is sodden already. This

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<v Speaker 5>time last year we were still dealing with a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of fires. We've very quickly moved into flood conditions this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, what we see every year.

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<v Speaker 5>Is deaths on our roads as a consequence of people

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<v Speaker 5>driving into flood waters.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I always strength and love to everyone who's

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with this. We are very confident that we can

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<v Speaker 2>handle the volume of water that is coming down Bradley's

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<v Speaker 2>Gully as we speak, and everyone to stay calm.

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<v Speaker 1>We need everyone to look after each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on you guys, stay in touch with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to the messages that you're hearing from local

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<v Speaker 2>emergency services, and yeah, all the best for what might

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<v Speaker 2>be another wild weekend here in the greatest country of

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<v Speaker 2>them or. But first, let's talk about again what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in canber right now now, still waiting for a final

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<v Speaker 2>vote on the censoring of the Internet. This is about

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<v Speaker 2>the government to shutting down your capacity to post what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to on your social media feeds. Oh, they

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<v Speaker 2>say it's all about myths and disinformation, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of what they're trying to shut off here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the Center will vote on that to no plan today.

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<v Speaker 2>They come back next week. Presumably this thing will get

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<v Speaker 2>killed off next week, or if they're stupid enough, they

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<v Speaker 2>will keep the door open. And an active part of

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign leading into the next federal election will be

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<v Speaker 2>that the Labor Party and the Greens want to sense

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<v Speaker 2>of the Internet and everyone else doesn't. That'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>major issue. It's up to Labor whether they kill it

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<v Speaker 2>off or whether they bring it to the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>our election, which will be a very bad news story

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<v Speaker 2>for them. But today the Prime Minister trying to distract

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<v Speaker 2>from what is going to be this inevitable defeat of

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<v Speaker 2>his attempt to censor adults on the Internet, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>turning towards trying to keep kids away from social media. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I've said for years that social media is poison. It

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<v Speaker 2>is poisoned for way too many adults and that poison

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<v Speaker 2>should not be extended to children. Apart from what they see,

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity for bullies to message you in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, for people to gang up on you

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<v Speaker 2>in a digital way means that the problems that you

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt when we went to school will they

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<v Speaker 2>extend home and it means there's a twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>seven cycle of among other things, that is bullying. Now

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<v Speaker 2>today the federal government introduced its laws to ban people

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<v Speaker 2>under the age of sixteen being able to have accounts

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<v Speaker 2>on all of the obvious social media sites. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister saying why it's good. As a government, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a responsibility to keep our young Australian safe. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that social media is causing social harm. There was

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<v Speaker 2>also some confusion about whether people under the age of

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen will be able to access YouTube. They will because

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube is not going to be included in this. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just about access to YouTube, it was about

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<v Speaker 2>whether your kid can have a YouTube account. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea why anyone under the age of

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen their parents would allow them to have it, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is not going to be affected by the ban

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk taking time out from slashing things in the

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<v Speaker 2>American budget, launching rockets, creating electric cars that lefties are

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<v Speaker 2>now oh so happy that they drive around the cities.

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<v Speaker 2>He responded to the Prime Minister today that it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a back way, a backdoor way to control access

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<v Speaker 2>to the Internet by all Australians. So obviously he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want this thing to take place now. Regardless of when

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<v Speaker 2>you think this is a great idea, maybe idea or

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<v Speaker 2>a bad idea, process matters when we are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>something as big and as serious, with all of its

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<v Speaker 2>potential intent and unintended consequences. The way that generally the

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<v Speaker 2>process works is because the government doesn't have a majority

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate. Now they generally do once they get

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens and the Lefties on the crossbench, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the outright numbers, which means that any piece

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation as controversial as this is normally sent off

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<v Speaker 2>to a committee. Now, I want you to have a

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<v Speaker 2>listen to Channel nine and how they're going to explain

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<v Speaker 2>how the next part of this process works. Put simply,

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<v Speaker 2>the government would like sooner rather than later to pass

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<v Speaker 2>this legislation before Parliament ends next week, because there's every

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<v Speaker 2>chance Parliament won't come back at all. A perfect example,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bromba Bishop mentioned this last night about why the

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<v Speaker 2>government might tell us they want to have a budget

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<v Speaker 2>and tell us they want to have an election in May,

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<v Speaker 2>is that politicians who aren't going to be coming back

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<v Speaker 2>after the next election, people like Bill Shorten, are giving

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<v Speaker 2>their farewell speeches now. Now he's supposed to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>that in February. Parliament could be back in February, unless,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, as a plan for no Parliament to come

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<v Speaker 2>back in February, which is why he gave his farewell

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<v Speaker 2>address today even though next week parliament still continues. But

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<v Speaker 2>have a listen to the review process. Now, think about

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<v Speaker 2>how big this is. This is about limiting kids' access

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<v Speaker 2>to social media and as Elon Musk suggests, the potential

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<v Speaker 2>complicating factors around all of it. Does this sound like

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<v Speaker 2>a government who cares at all what anyone else thinks

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<v Speaker 2>about these laws.

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<v Speaker 6>In an attempt to pass the laws before the end

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<v Speaker 6>of next week, the bill has been referred to a

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<v Speaker 6>quick five day committee for scrutiny, but with only twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four hours given for submissions. Tech companies are concerned the

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<v Speaker 6>laws are being rushed without proper consultation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pretty well right. So what you're seeing there

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<v Speaker 2>is that tomorrow is the twenty four hour period that

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone wants to respond from Elon Musk to you

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<v Speaker 2>or me to have our say on this space of legislation,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to do it by tomorrow. Now, anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to act with government or put a submission

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<v Speaker 2>for government. It's not just like bagging out an email.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly more complicated the idea that they've issued a very

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<v Speaker 2>narrow window and then just five days to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the legislation. Again big tell that the government

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<v Speaker 2>wants this done by the end of next week, because

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<v Speaker 2>most likely you can start to be big that Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>is not coming back no budget, which means we may

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<v Speaker 2>well be looking at a prime minister. And obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>could well be proven wrong, but he could come as

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<v Speaker 2>early as Australia Day and fire a starter's gune on

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<v Speaker 2>an election into February or maybe into March. Any later

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<v Speaker 2>than that then obviously Parliament would have to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>But all the little signs are showing us that it's

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<v Speaker 2>an election sooner rather than later. But there's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say about kids and their access to

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. Now I've shown you before that there are

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<v Speaker 2>great documentaries that you should be watching with your tween

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<v Speaker 2>and teen kids about the reality of social media, about

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<v Speaker 2>how all of these companies actually work, about how it's

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of digital version of a casino with artificial light,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of stimulus, and the search for the stimulus is

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<v Speaker 2>what makes you keep coming back, right. But as parents

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<v Speaker 2>and grandparents, we play a role here. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>twelve year old in Australia who can buy a phone

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't have any money. They don't have a job,

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<v Speaker 2>which means they can't have the money to sign up

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<v Speaker 2>and get a mobile phone. It is us, the parents,

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<v Speaker 2>the family members, or the grandparents who are in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of when they get access to their devices. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>am not going to pretend that I'm a person who

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<v Speaker 2>has only had my kids play with wooden toys and

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<v Speaker 2>read intellectually approved books. My kids love mucking around on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube and they will often sit with me and will

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<v Speaker 2>giggle at some of the other stuff that's on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do not have access to these devices without

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<v Speaker 2>our knowledge. Please, if the parents of Australia could start

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<v Speaker 2>to unite and in all of those Facebook and WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 2>groups that exist from kindergarten all the way through the

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<v Speaker 2>year twelve. Before the kid can afford to buy a phone,

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<v Speaker 2>let's decide the types of phones they can buy now. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>smartphones are things like your Samsung Galaxies or your iPhone

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen or whatever it is right now. The other

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<v Speaker 2>option is to think god a dumb phone, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a telephone, which is a telephone only it does not

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<v Speaker 2>have access to the Internet, It may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully not have a camera, and you cannot access apps.

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<v Speaker 1>If for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's time for your kid or grandkid, niece,

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<v Speaker 2>nephew or friend have a phone for goodness sake, make

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<v Speaker 2>it a dumb one, because ultimately they can text you,

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<v Speaker 2>You can text them, they can text their friends. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night the apps are not

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<v Speaker 2>going ding ding ding and monitoring them and trapping them

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<v Speaker 2>into a world that in part is creating a scenario that,

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<v Speaker 2>as I told you last night, kids as young as

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<v Speaker 2>eight now are showing serious signs of mental illness that

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<v Speaker 2>in part is being filled by the garbage that they

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<v Speaker 2>are being fed on the internet, and part of how

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<v Speaker 2>they're being fed on it is by what their parents

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<v Speaker 2>are letting them do. Now, I get it. There are

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<v Speaker 2>certain age groups that will go off and find their

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<v Speaker 2>own ways and smarter with technology than their parents and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially their grandparents. But the device they have is up

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<v Speaker 2>to you. In the same way you decide what you

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<v Speaker 2>feed your kid for dinner, you can decide what devices

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<v Speaker 2>they have in their pocket or you have in your home.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't expect the government to do everything on this now.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Australia's economy, there are two songs

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<v Speaker 2>that give the best indication to the attitude of this

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<v Speaker 2>federal government. The first everything and the other one is

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<v Speaker 2>a country music song that I can't get out of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. I love that song. Oh, such a good song.

0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting deep into the country music now. Love Love, Love,

0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Love Love because Stapleton. Anyway, I'm distracting. But in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the reality of the Australian economy, anyone who's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pay off a house right now is in a

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<v Speaker 2>world of pain. Anyone who's trying to pay off an

0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.480
<v Speaker 2>investment property right now is in a world of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>That's two thirds of the people in the Australian housing market.

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<v Speaker 2>We learn today one point six million Australian households are

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<v Speaker 2>currently facing mortgage stress. This is different than the number

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<v Speaker 2>I also gave you this week of three medium people

0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.520
<v Speaker 2>who are at the risk of homelessness, mainly because they're

0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.560
<v Speaker 2>starting to get squeezed out of the rental market. But

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<v Speaker 2>of course, when it comes to interest rates, the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that matters is not you or I or anyone

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<v Speaker 2>else who's trying to make it by no. Of course,

0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.680
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the Canberra bubble, they only care about

0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.079
<v Speaker 2>the future of the Prime Minister, and they're already putting

0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of pressure on the Reserve Bank, not so

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<v Speaker 2>they can make things easier for those of us trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pay something off. But no, Alban Eazy needs interest

0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.240
<v Speaker 2>rates to fall. If they don't, his reelection chances certainly

0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.800
<v Speaker 2>will oh heaven forlfend interest rates in the Prime Minister's

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<v Speaker 2>chances and an election please. The early expectation was that

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<v Speaker 2>if we weren't going to get anything this year, we

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<v Speaker 2>would get it early next year. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, many of the banks were starting to say

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<v Speaker 2>as early as February and again with an election now

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<v Speaker 2>certainly before May. May of the latest Prime Minister says May,

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<v Speaker 2>but if no one's coming back into Parliament it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>earlier than May. Then February would be okay. However, those

0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.520
<v Speaker 2>expectations now need to change. Today Westpac joined in with

0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.120
<v Speaker 2>other financial institutions to say you can forget about February,

0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you can forget about March, and and forget about April.

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<v Speaker 2>May is when there may be a reduction in interest rates.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the finn Westpac's become the second big bank

0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to push its forecast for the Reserve banks Australia's first

0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.360
<v Speaker 2>cash rate to May from February. As more economists and

0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:23.160
<v Speaker 2>investors investors dump expectations for pre election mortgage relief, inflation lingering,

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<v Speaker 2>and remember inflation is quite artificial at the moment because

0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.680
<v Speaker 2>power prices are part of inflation. But this government is

0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.280
<v Speaker 2>falsely trying to make it seem like those things are

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<v Speaker 2>lower than they actually are. And issues when it comes

0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to the job market, you can see that May twenty

0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:43.280
<v Speaker 2>is what the NAB City, UBS, Capital Economics, RBC Capital

0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Markets and now Westpac think is when this relief is

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. Now, I have long argued that it

0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter when an interest rate cut happens. The true

0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.000
<v Speaker 2>pain of twelve interest rate rises under the leadership of

0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Obernezi and Jim Chalmers is pressure that does not

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<v Speaker 2>feel awfully relieved. If we go from position number twelve

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<v Speaker 2>to position number eleven, or even position number ten, you

0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:11.560
<v Speaker 2>are still ten movements higher than you were when this

0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.800
<v Speaker 2>mob came to power. Now, remember the total amount of

0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.000
<v Speaker 2>money that is currently being paid back on homes that

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<v Speaker 2>have a mortgage, either the ones that people are living

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<v Speaker 2>in or the ones that they have as an investment property. Well,

0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the total amount of money that people have had defined

0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.040
<v Speaker 2>since this government came to power and twelve interest rate

0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.720
<v Speaker 2>rises is billions of dollars. A little different than the

0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.640
<v Speaker 2>promise that's still on the Prime Minister's Twitter feed that

0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a labor government would lower the cost of living. That

0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.440
<v Speaker 2>was his promises opposition leader. But every single thing has

0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.200
<v Speaker 2>become more expensive while he's been in there, and in

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<v Speaker 2>my view as a result of him being there. To

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<v Speaker 2>give you an idea of just how much we've had

0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to find cancer analysis of the Reserve Bank data shows

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<v Speaker 2>that borrowers were charged fourteen and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on mortgage repayments in June of this year. Rates have

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<v Speaker 2>stayed the same since, compared to nine billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>March of twenty twenty one. Put simply, anyone paying off

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<v Speaker 2>a mortgage has had to find collectively five point five

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:13.200
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, or sixty one percent more than they were

0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.680
<v Speaker 2>paying when this bloke became the Prime minister. The Candra

0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.160
<v Speaker 2>press gallery may think that everything is awesome, everything is fine,

0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and it ain't my fault if we go from twelve

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<v Speaker 2>interra straight rises back to the eleven position or the

0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:30.160
<v Speaker 2>ten position. I say people's financial pressure is right being

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<v Speaker 2>a purple right now, and that's why I don't think

0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.600
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be the political relief. Another bit of

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.040
<v Speaker 2>evidence to putting on the table as well. Remember the

0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.920
<v Speaker 2>bricks of our argument each and every night, data facts,

0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what we put before you. The mortar is the opinion.

0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.440
<v Speaker 2>There's lots of it, and that's what builds our wall

0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 2>against this nonsense each and every night. In the Australian

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.200
<v Speaker 2>newspaper today, one of their opinion people was writing that

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<v Speaker 2>the latest JWS True Issues survey has found that Australians

0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.920
<v Speaker 2>feel as if they are falling behind. Every three percent

0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of people say they are worse off than they were

0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.840
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. Repeat, forty three percent say they are

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.160
<v Speaker 2>worse off than they were two years ago. Nineteen percent

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.320
<v Speaker 2>say that they work better off. What was that Prime

0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.680
<v Speaker 2>minister's promise that a labor government would make things better

0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.880
<v Speaker 2>when it came to cost of living reality, Forty three

0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.160
<v Speaker 2>percent of people say it's worse since they took over.

0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:21.919
<v Speaker 2>And that's not just the people that are trying to

0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.119
<v Speaker 2>pay off a house, which is why Peter Dutton laserlike

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 2>is not distracted, but the hate campaign which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to come and the fear campaign that's going to come

0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 2>from the government in question time today he hit them

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<v Speaker 2>right between the eyes and good on him for doing.

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<v Speaker 7>The Future Fund was set up by the Howard government

0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:42.320
<v Speaker 7>in two thousand and six to strengthen Australia's long term

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<v Speaker 7>financial position. For nearly twenty years, governments of both sides

0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.360
<v Speaker 7>have respected the independence of the Fund by not meddling

0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.639
<v Speaker 7>with its investment mandate. Having blown the bank and fueled

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.440
<v Speaker 7>inflation with its reckless spending, Labor is now raiding the

0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.240
<v Speaker 7>nation's nest egg to cover its economic failures. As to

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<v Speaker 7>WHI are Australians paying for the Albanesi government's economic incompetence?

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<v Speaker 2>Now what's he talking about there? When it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the Future Fund. Others may have explained it certainly better

0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 2>than I can, but let me give it a crack.

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.959
<v Speaker 2>In Canberra, there's obviously the politicians, and then there's all

0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of the public servants that exist in and around the

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 2>federal government. Yes, from the front line of the army

0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.480
<v Speaker 2>all the way through to the back rooms of the

0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.480
<v Speaker 2>tax department. In fact, has this one in five people

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.920
<v Speaker 2>employed in Australia work for a government. Now obviously that's state,

0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.920
<v Speaker 2>federal and local. But when we are talking here about

0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.280
<v Speaker 2>federal government people, they all of course have superannuation. They

0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.480
<v Speaker 2>have superannuation that is at a higher rate than many

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.240
<v Speaker 2>of us in the private sector, and obviously their moneys

0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.480
<v Speaker 2>are also on top of their salary. So there's a

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 2>very significant amount of money that the federal government at

0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 2>any one time has to have access to for the

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:59.959
<v Speaker 2>superannuation of the public servants. Now remember that the Future

0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Fund is in part for that reason, but also they're

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.200
<v Speaker 2>able to have their own union superannuation and the rest

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.159
<v Speaker 2>of it here, but that basically is one of the

0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.159
<v Speaker 2>purposes of the Future Fund. Its point is to invest

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 2>in whatever it wants in order to produce the best

0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 2>possible return, to have the biggest amount of money that

0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:21.439
<v Speaker 2>the government has to cover its liabilities with a public

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:26.400
<v Speaker 2>service that is exponentially growing. One in five Australians work

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.920
<v Speaker 2>for the government. This is not a good number for Australia.

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 2>It is not a good number for our future. And

0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 2>it speaks to a political theory of the case that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had for some time. We saw this with a

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Andrews or a Palichet and Miles, which is that

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 2>they believe that permanent power comes for them. If you

0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>work for the government, if you're dependent on the government,

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 2>or if you're a business your biggest client is the government.

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 2>That would patch up sixty maybe sixty five even seventy

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.159
<v Speaker 2>percent of people, meaning that everyone who is outside of

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 2>those groups, even if they all voted in the opposite direction,

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.439
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't matter because the public servants. Hence why the

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.199
<v Speaker 2>political conversation about cut cut, cut, cut cut, it's all

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>aimed at those people, and those people are not in

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 2>certain areas. They're found out all the way across the

0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>country is that the business is connected to the government

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 2>that no one wants to rock the boat. Hence why

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 2>you get Victoria which doesn't move at all, or you

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 2>need sticks and sticks and sticks of jellig nite over

0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.439
<v Speaker 2>four years to be able to dislodge labor like Crucifooley

0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was able to successfully do with Miles and Palachet in Queensland.

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 2>But today we learn that the Treasurer is going to

0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 2>tell the people who run this fund what they should

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 2>start to invest in. Not because it provides the best

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 2>possible financial return for the reasons the fund exists. No,

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 2>it's to help him prop up. I want to increase

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the amount of things like renewable energy construction. Now, remember,

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.719
<v Speaker 2>if the purpose of the fund is essentially just a

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.159
<v Speaker 2>giant extra bit of money for the federal government to

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 2>yank ad that would be okay. But it's not. It's

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 2>meant to be something completely separate that is not going

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 2>to be involved in investing in things that the federal

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 2>government then gets to turn around and cut ribbons on

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to make themselves look better as politicians. Petti Costello, who

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:24.479
<v Speaker 2>established the Future Fund, he said this in part today

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that this is a particularly bad decision, and he says

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that it is not so small modernization. He said in

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a statement, In fact, there's nothing modern about all of

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 2>this at all. This belongs to a very old tradition

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.679
<v Speaker 2>in politics, interfering with market investment for political purposes. The

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Shadow Treasurer also says this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 8>The government is coming after this money, which is Australian's money,

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 8>because of their economic failures. It's not clear where they

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.159
<v Speaker 8>want to go next after this, by the way, and

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.640
<v Speaker 8>the fact of the matter is if they are prepared

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 8>to run the Future Fund, they'll be more than prepared

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 8>to raid Australian's superannuation money, which they've always seen as

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 8>their money.

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<v Speaker 2>As for Jim Chalmers, this is his defense.

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<v Speaker 9>This is not an especially controversial change that we are proposing.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's not unusual for governments to indicate what

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.119
<v Speaker 9>are they considered to be their national economic priorities. We

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 9>haven't interfered with the independence of the Future Fund. We

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 9>haven't interfered with expectations around rate of return or risk.

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<v Speaker 2>This bloke is really trying to fiddle with the books.

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to fiddle with the books to use the

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.400
<v Speaker 2>money that is not for this purpose, for the purpose

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 2>of investing in the things that as a politician he

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>would be able to open and cut the ribbons going

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>into an election, which seemingly is earlier than what the

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister was saying earlier this week, which is in

0:22:49.320 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and around May. What was that song again? There's no

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>need to play that song, but I did because I

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 2>like it's all much. Now, let's talk about something way

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>more serious than that, and there's no dancing of music

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>involved in this. The TRIPLEO system in Victoria is a disgrace. Now.

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 2>As I've told you before, thirty three people have died

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and the lead up to the last election because the

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 2>TRIPLEO system wasn't working. It meant that they couldn't dispatch ambulances.

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It meant that people ended up dying as a result

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 2>of the TRIPLEO system not working. Now, we were told

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that all of this was going to be fixed, this

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>was all going to be put in place, it was

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>all going to be made okay. A government spokesperson has

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 2>turned around and has said, in relation to all of

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>this that our budget keeps investing in emergency services. Victorians

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 2>rely on the funding allocated for this procedure in a

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 2>new computer aided dispatch system and two million dollars to

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 2>support the tripos. They said this was going to be fixed. Well,

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>guess what we learn tonight that the triplo system for

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hours yesterday in Melbourne was so out

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 2>of kilter that they had to write things down and

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 2>they were posting and passing notes to each other. This

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>is exactly the same situation that we had before the

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>last state election. Well, the story now has repeated itself.

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>It is truly unbelievable now that Deputy Secretary of Emergency

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Management of the Department of Justice and Community Safety had

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to explain what happened here. A parliamentary committee was told

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that there was an unplanned outage of this system at

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>five point thirty and the computer aided and dispatched system

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 2>was able to come back two hours later. In the meantime,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>staff were forced to use pen and paper. A quarter

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<v Speaker 2>of the way into the twenty first century. This is

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 2>how the system is currently being held together by pen

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 2>and paper. The opposition we couldn't find them in front

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of a camera today. Why I don't know, but this

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 2>in part is what they had to say, which was

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Labour's managed to give the tripo a triple zero, Victoria

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a new logo, but it hasn't made a start on

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 2>a modern and reliable dispatch system. Good to see a statement,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>why the hell aren't you in front of a camera?

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>This is outrageous. Thirty three people died before the last election,

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>but because Labor got re elected, because they think it

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. They somehow think you can still have a

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 2>system this far after the state election that has not

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>been fixed. Computers break down, but the computers cannot break

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>down when we are talking about people who are calling

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>TRIPLEO and we are trying to work out where to

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 2>send the people the ambulance to the police or the

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 2>fieries when they call TRIPLEO. But do you expect anything

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:58.719
<v Speaker 2>different The premier who fiddles while Victoria burns perfect example

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of her priorities, where literally she's just playing games on

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the internet, not even doing her job. She's literally giving

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 2>herself a pat on the back while approving houses that

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 2>are little pictures on printed out pieces of paper.

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<v Speaker 10>We are going to need to get a much big

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 10>out stamp.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh seriously, now, let's get to our beloved members of

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the Australian Defense Force. To anyone who's part of the

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Defense Force or has served our country, thank you for

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>your service, Thank you for what you do for the

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>families who are either left behind or worry because their

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>loved one is involved in defending our country. God love

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>you well. Today we learn that again we've got major

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 2>culture problems inside. But this is all about the brass,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>not about the men and women who are on the

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 2>front lines. A twenty twenty four workplace Experience Paul has

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>revealed that despite years of efforts to improve defense culture,

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven percent of personnel so they have experienced unacceptable

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 2>behavior in the past twelve months. How many times have

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>they promised to fix this, but thirty seven percent of

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>people say they have experienced things like sexual misconduct and bullying.

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 2>The survey found just twenty nine percent of the Army

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty two percent of the Navy felt that their senior

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>leaders were effective. Seriously, that's less than a third who

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 2>believe that their bosses are up to it thirty four percent.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Forty two percent was what the number was a couple

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>of years ago, so it is getting worse, not better.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Air Force personnels slightly more satisfied. Thirty seven percent of

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>them approve and have a positive opinion of their commanders. That,

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is down from twenty twenty one. Why

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>is this particularly shocking tonight because remember the Royal Commission

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 2>into Veterans' Suicide that was around for you ye, that

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>earlier this year had released its final reports, big thick

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>documents into the problems in and around our Defense Force

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>that in part are leading to members of the Australian

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Defense Force taking their own life. One of the recommendations

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 2>was recommendation twelve to consider the emotional intelligence and performance

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 2>of people who move up into leadership ranks. Remember at

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the time when this was released, the Prime Minister said

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>that they respected the report and that they would get

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>on and act on its recommendations. Just as our veterans

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>and defense personnel step up for our country, we have

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>an obligation to step up for them. So September towards

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the end of October, what's best part of six weeks?

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Seven weeks ago total number of recommendations that the government

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>has said that they are going to implement from the Veterans'

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Suicide Royal Commission duck, egg, bugger or none, tumblewheed, It's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not understand how a document of this seriousness

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>does not have great urgency. I do not understand why

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the opposition does not ask a question about this, about

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>how many of the recommendations are you going to put

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>in place? In my opinion, it should be all of them, definitely.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>If we've got less than a third of the men

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>and women of our defense force who do not have

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>faith in the people who lead them, and there are

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>recommendations to change how that system works seven weeks after

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>they have been published, and they were as plain as

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the nose on your face, this government simply thinks that

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>they could tick and flick do the usual thing. Oh

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>we respect our troops, Well, what about a report into

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>the difficulties and the fart is that are leading to

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 2>them taking their own lives? Nothing, no urgency whatsoever. But

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>because they want to get a win in and around

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>social media and trying to ban it for kids, that's

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a twenty four hour process into a five day inquiry

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>into a law being passed, all of that within a week.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>If they want to do something, they can do something.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>But the they won't do something, So can I appeal

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to a lady who I'm sure does not think well

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of me, but is in a powerful position, Jackie Lamby.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Without her vote, it is harder for the government to

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>pass a single piece of legislation. Jackie, could you pick

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 2>up the phone. Could you tell the Prime Minister how

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>many of these recommendations are you putting in place? Can

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you make it public? Make it now? Or you're not

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>voting for anything that they want to do between now

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>and the next election. Now, it's a threat that will

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>probably be empty because there won't be many days of

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the Senate between now and the next election. But you

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>are in a position to do something. And I know

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to veterans affairs that she is one

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of the best politicians in the country. You wants to

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>do something now. I have a crack at an uphill

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Downdale all day every day. But a broken clock can

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>be right twice a day. It is right on this Senator.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Please use your power to get this public. Use your

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>power to tell us how many of these recommendations are

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>they going to put in place? Can you put the

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>pressure on the government and the Prime Minister the next

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>time you see him. What the hell is going on?

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Why have they not done anything with this report? They

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>are just yet again, letting the men and women of

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>our defense force swing in the breeze metaphorically, I say.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Now in the US, as you know, Trump on his

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>way back to power. But there is a ridiculous suggestion

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>from lefties who cannot get past their hate of all

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>things to do with Orange Man Bad, and they have

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>got a new plan, which is to dangle a potential

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>jail sentence over Donald Trump all the way through the

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>next four years of his presidency. This all comes back

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to the bloke who ran on the get Trump bandwagon,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 2>who helped fill the dolls and push things. So he

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>was found guilty on thirty four counts of bookkeeping charges

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>in a trial that didn't even ask as a witness

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>the bookkeeper to give evidence, because the assumption was that

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the bookkeeper would end up speaking on Trump's behalf. But surprise, surprise,

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a place that votes very dramatic New York City Democrat

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that the majority of all of the jury conduct with

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>those thirty four guilty verdicts. Now, the president was supposed

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>to be sentenced before the Republican Convention, it was delayed

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>until after the election, and now Alvin Bragg is trying

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to put in place a delay on sentencing for another

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>four years. We'll let our difriend Annalise explain this nonsense.

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 11>In a previous filing, the district attorney argued against dismissing

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 11>the conviction, saying, no current law establishes that a president's

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 11>temporary immunity from prosecution requires dismissal of a post trial

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 11>criminal proceeding that was initiated at a time when the

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 11>defendant was not immune from criminal prosecution, and that is

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 11>based on official conduct for which the defendant is also

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 11>not immune. In response to the delay, Donald Trump's communication

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 11>director Stephen Chung said in a statement, this is a

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 11>total and definitive victory for President Trump and the American

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 11>people who elected him in a landslide. The Manhattan DA

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 11>has conceded that this witch hunt cannot continue.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>No Sooks, no Lefties, and the best chat we've ever

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>had with Meghan Kelly. What was that song again? I

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>love it? Write them cowboy morn A Secer and put

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Marie Lard. No sooks, no lefties, and thanks for watching.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 2>No Sooks, no Lefties, Meghan Kelly in a moment or

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>two's time and speaking your powerful, independent, wonderful women to

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>join us now Christie McSweeney of course, the Principal Council

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>of the pr Council, Christy Abram, who is a libertarian

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>to her heart.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Both of these ladies are about freedom.

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 12>How I a.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Great It's great to be here, Good to have you.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Blackpool, good stuff. I love thee I love her when

0:33:59.560 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Still lovely ladies, all right, So let's talk about what's

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 2>happening in Victoria right now. So there's a treaty negotiation

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>happening between the Victorian government and Indigenous peoples. We've spoken

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 2>about some of what were the apparent demands, which, among

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>other things, have been your indigenous people don't have to

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>pay counsel rates, Indigenous people can have access to a

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 2>whole collection of financial issues. But at the very heart

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 2>of this is, of course, what is the government willing

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to negotiate on. And Christy they have said previously, look,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>anything's up for grabs, everything's on the table, but we

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's on the table, and we don't know

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>what is being negotiated. In fact, here is just seem

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to alan talking about it today.

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<v Speaker 10>Today is an historic day, an historic day for our state,

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 10>for our strong Victorian community, and it's historic because we're

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 10>about to embark on treaty negotiations will make our strong

0:34:54.120 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 10>state even stronger, even fairer, even more equal for all Victorians.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Stated by the way, as we know, the TRIPLEO system

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>is currently down to paper and pen But Christy, surely

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 2>we have to know what is being negotiated here, don't we.

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 12>I think the Federal Labor Party demonstrated that they don't

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 12>want Australians to know, or Australians don't need to know

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 12>any details in terms of major decisions that the government

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 12>seeks to enact on their behalf or get them to

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 12>vote for. So that's been run already and at lost.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 12>And of course the next election in Victoria is not

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 12>coming forward to twenty twenty six November twenty twenty six.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 12>We've got a long way to run in terms of

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 12>these big ideas that don't necessarily have.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 3>Any details behind them.

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 12>I think that is what politics is these days, with

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 12>some quarters, of course, I will say this. I read

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 12>that press release, I've read the Victorian Treaty Authority website,

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 12>I've listened to the Premier and I've read that transcript.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 12>I can't understand anything that she is saying. It is

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 12>not communicated, let alone not having any details.

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>And I will say.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 12>This, Paul, One in ten Indigenous children in Victoria are

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 12>likely to be removed from their home, and Indigenous reports

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 12>tell us that in Victoria and actually around Australia, only

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 12>six percent of child protection budgets go towards supporting out

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 12>of home care for kinship and cultural residents for Indigenous children.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Fix that.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 12>Fix your budgets before you announce great esoteric ideas that

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 12>don't make sense and don't help one Indigenous Victorian Kristen.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Again, I'm trying to go best case scenario on this. Okay,

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>if they wanted to tell us upfront that a percentage

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>of all tax revenue will go for this reason, and

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you know they're okay, that's the starting point, and we

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>at least understand right what we can argue in and around.

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>But if there's no dayline on this process, what did

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 2>we do.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 13>Well?

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 14>I'm not surprised that there's no daylight on this process

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 14>or any other process that the government gets up.

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 13>To these days.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 14>But I feel as though we need to take a

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 14>step back.

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 13>From all of this that's going on.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 14>You know, we've had the voice and now we have

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 14>the Victorian government talking.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 13>About a treaty.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 14>I was in year six when Kevin Rudd said sorry

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 14>and he acknowledged the past of Australia and Australia's history.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 14>And I remember when the you know, teacher wheeled in

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 14>the television for us to watch that historic moment. And

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 14>I remember in year six thinking, how good, you know,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 14>for us to acknowledge the past and move forward together

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 14>as one. That's what it was meant to do. It

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 14>was meant to bring us all together. Now, that same

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 14>year six, Kristen used to get really upset when people

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 14>used to say where are you from? And I would

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 14>always turn around and say Australia. I'm Australian because I

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 14>was proud and I I'm proud to be an Australian.

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 14>But you know why I got to upset, Paul, It

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 14>was because people were saying you're different. Every time they

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 14>said where are you're from? They would be saying to me,

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 14>you look different. You don't look like an Australian to me,

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 14>and what are we doing to society and our Aboriginal

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 14>you know comrades by saying they're constantly different from us,

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 14>By going okay, well we need a treaty.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 13>We need the voice.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 14>We are all equal together, and you can't unrate history,

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 14>you can only forge a better future.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely correct. Why I love the freedom of a libertarian

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>talking this stuff. All right, let's talk about kids and

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 2>social media and the laws that are going to be

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>raced through before the end of the year. Kristin, what's

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on it.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 14>It's a dangerous question, Paul asking a libertarian what I

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 14>think about a social media bands.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 13>There's the potential that I'm going to go off on

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 13>a tangent on this one.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 14>But again, let's take it back. So the oban Easy

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 14>government and the Coalition are saying, let's protect the kids. Okay,

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 14>So is potentially harmful content on social media. When I

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 14>was in high school and social media had just started

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 14>to boom, the people that were as sat as it,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 14>the most oppressed weren't actually getting bullied on social media.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 14>It was because largely they didn't have friends. Now, obviously

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 14>mental health manifests in different ways and for different.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 13>Causes, but let's talk about graphic.

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 14>Content that they're trying to protect children from as well.

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 14>Before social media, you would go, you know, to your parents'

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 14>draws or whatever, and find a magazine, or you'd go

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 14>into the news agency and try and find a magazine.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 13>You were still kids were still.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 14>Trying to find that content anyway. So having a social

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:42.240
<v Speaker 14>media ban on under sixteens takes the choices away from parents.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 13>And I don't think that the government should be our parent.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 15>If you, as a parent.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.720
<v Speaker 14>Want to stop your childs from going on social media,

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 14>you do that, but don't take away other parents' choices

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 14>because you're too weak.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 13>To parent your children.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 14>I think that's absolutely ridiculous and I don't think that's

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 14>the Australian way.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Me and Kelly in a second, So let's

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>get the winners and losers week, Christy McSweeney. Who stands

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>out for you? What do you want to give a

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 2>cuddle to or a kick up the backside?

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 12>Oh look, I'm going to say Jim Chalmers, probably the

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 12>Luther of the wake. I don't think he's Treasury's speech

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 12>and he's big vision for Australia. This is the second

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 12>time he's done this. I don't think it landed.

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Paul. Yeah, the remaking of capitalism, of course, is what

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Tea was promising the first time around. Kristin Abram, for you.

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 14>The loser of the week from me would be the

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 14>Sydney commuters which are being held hostage by the unions

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 14>and the labor forcing them into this situation as always.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 14>And the winner, I would say is probably Ellen DeGeneres

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 14>because she's being able to use Trump as an excuse

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 14>to flee the US.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Only because she was canceled.

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 12>She's run out and got no more exactly using as

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 12>an excuse.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about that is a story. She's going to

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 2>pull a pin on the United States. Oh, she hates

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the country that made her so anyway, you get the point.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 2>She'll take her Emmy's with her. Of course, thank you,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>ladies to appreciate it. Speaking of nosooks, no lefties. The

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>ultimate Meghan Kelly. Next, this is the best chat we've

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>ever had. You're going to love it as much as we.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 2>The highlight of our week is when we talk to

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 2>our favorite person in the world, none of them, the

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>wonderful Meghan Kelly, who's still radiant, still amazing because she's

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>living a brand new world in Trump's America.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Rockstar. Loving to see you.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 3>It's great to be here. I'm still riding high.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah me too.

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Now we sore over the past couple of days that

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>a major decision was made to escalate things in Ukraine,

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>where US missiles can now be used.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>They have been used to fire into Russia.

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Russia turns around and says, well, we now reserve the

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>right to drop a nuke in response. But Joe's missing

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in the jungle. Kamalas buge it off to Hawaii. The

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>White House has got a gone fishing sign on it,

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 2>and no one seems to care.

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 4>It's really terrifying, and it's really irresponsible, and I really

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 4>don't think, you know, like we didn't even want to

0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 4>confirm a Supreme Court justice nominated by an hour going president.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Why shouldn't outgoing president be allowed to start World War

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 4>three and then pass the baton to the incoming You know,

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 4>they give security.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Briefings to the incoming president.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 4>At this point, he should be involved at a minimum

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 4>in the decision making here, because he's the one who's

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 4>going to have to deal with this.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Trump, not Biden.

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Biden can't be reached by anybody, not even Jill,

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure at this point. So it's really scary, and

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 4>of all times to escalate, and for what point?

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, they're arguing over.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Like one last piece of territory that maybe won't be

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Putin's and that Zelensky can with At this point, it's.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Not worth it. Given the stakes that we are looking.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 4>At here, people seem to forget that they are in

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 4>nuclear power.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Putin can be angered.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 4>He does not want a nuclear war with the United States,

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 4>but we continue to.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Proceed as though it's not at least a risk.

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to spend months talking about whether or

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>not the people that Trump is peaking for his cabinet

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>will get confirmed or not. And I love getting into

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the detail, but there is something I wanted to get

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 2>to about this whole process before we get into the names. Right,

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>there are two people, in particular, the person that he

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 2>wants to become the Attorney General, Matt Gates, and the

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>person he wants to become Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth.

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Now they're hardcore mag of people, and that's why the

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Left hate them. But the way they're trying to come

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 2>at these two guys to say they couldn't possibly serve

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>is because of their personal lives. Hexeth is on his

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 2>third marriage and clearly was a pants man in between

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>each of those times. The same when it comes to

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates, but also when we go back to say,

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>the dug Emov stuff that was playing out during the election.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think America cares about sex the way that

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>it used to, and I don't think that sex in

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>your personal life is anywhere near as disqualifying as it

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>was ten years ago. What do you reckon?

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Did you say he was a pants man?

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>He's a pants man.

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean a man who means often he enjoys not

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>wearing them.

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>The only place that his pants look better out on

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the floor.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that make him like a boxer's man. I don't

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 3>understand not following it.

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>It means that he may lay with company. How do

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I say it?

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Adds?

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>A mad ruder is what we say in Astralia. So ironically,

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 2>even though you don't need pants for the activity, you

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>are referred to as a pants man. If you are

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 2>a person who has has been with many dare I.

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Say this is thrilling?

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I learned something new about your beautiful culture every time

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I come on.

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 3>All right, so indeed a pants man? I agree? That

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>is how it looks.

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 4>That won't that won't ruin Hegseth's nomination for his confirmation.

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 4>The fact that he's on marriage number three, and I

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 4>think he's on family number three. He started kids with

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 4>all of them. And it's not it's not ideal. I'm

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 4>not gonna I like Pete. I'm not going to pretend

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 4>it's ideal. However, it's not that. It's the fact that

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 4>now they're saying there's a woman accusing him of raping her.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 4>And this was not vetted with the Trump campaign, that

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Pete did not disclose it to them and they did

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 4>not know about it because it was just between Pete

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 4>and this woman. But to be honest, Paul, it smells.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 4>This whole story smells to high heaven. The police investigated

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 4>her claim, they did not bring charges. He was at

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 4>some event. She was like his handler because he was

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 4>a speaker. She's seen on videotape, according to Pete's lawyer,

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 4>bringing him back to his hotel room as his handler.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 4>He's obviously visibly intoxicated, according to the tapes, and she's

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 4>smiling and not drunk. They go inside, she comes out

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 4>eight or nine hours later, and she claims the whole

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 4>night got very hazy, as though she'd been given a

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 4>date rape drug. That's the obviously the obvious implication. My

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 4>biggest question on it is she says she went for.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 3>A rape kit the next day.

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Where is the positive drug test for the date rape drug?

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Where is a drug test that says she was given

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 4>her a hypnol Because that's the key of her whole story.

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 3>She remembers nothing except.

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Vaguely a rape and the other nine hours are a blur,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 4>and she went to rape crisis the next day. Where's

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 4>the drug test? I think if there were one, she

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 4>would have mentioned it. It would have been in the police report,

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 4>which it wasn't. The police declined to bring charges. And

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 4>this man's career should not be ruined over this unsubstantiated allegation.

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Now, we put it off for long enough. And this

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that I'm most excited to talk to

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you about.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I hate when people in the media couldn't give a

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff about the people who watched their shows listen to

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>their shows.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Instead they do it for the rest of the media.

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Perfect example of that of these two who host Morning Joe,

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and they of course came out and said after calling

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Trump Hitler and just every single day, three hours a day,

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the most boring, boring HEIGHTE on Trump oh well, now

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>pace it out. Time they went and saw Trump in

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Mari Lago. I hate the Trump met them.

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do too. I can't stand it. And it

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 4>wasn't just Hitler and fascist. It was also eight years

0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 4>of racist, sexist, rapist. That's what he was being called

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 4>all over their show and MSNBC, and.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 3>It's all just forgotten. It's nothing.

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 4>He's not a rapist, he's not Hitler. And Trump allowed it, right.

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Trump likes attention. He wants them talking about him, he

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.240
<v Speaker 4>wants them saying nice things about him. He doesn't need them.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 4>And of course I think Trump too is happy to

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 4>see somebody bend the knee, which was fun to see

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 4>bend it, get down nice and low huck her up.

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is just I mean, he is so up himself.

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 2>And she's just lost the plot a very long time ago.

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 3>But do you remember, she's an idiot. That's the other thing.

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 3>She's a dope.

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, she's constantly she's caused it, lecturing

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 4>us about women's rights like she's so okay, she's progressive.

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I forgot to tell you today, I do not have

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 4>my black stretchy pants on. I have the full sweatpant

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 4>on today, Paul Maray, I'm just going to be honest,

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 4>and I need to disclose this because it's a visual.

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 4>So this miss like a champion, Miss feminist. They were

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.359
<v Speaker 4>on the cover of was It New York magazine ten

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 4>years ago and you have a picture of the two

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 4>of them where Joe Scarborough is like this.

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I think he might have his feet up on the table.

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 4>It's like a power pose for him and she she.

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Is up there. This isn't I'm not dressed for this,

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 3>but I'm going to show you.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, give me, give me, thank you.

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 15>Oh yes, oh my god. That should not be doing this.

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 15>That's what she did.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's sitting there in the power position like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do it, baby, pose you show him your brain.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am so over her.

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<v Speaker 4>She's about women's rights and empowerment and rapist.

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<v Speaker 3>This you're full of and we all know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Megan, I love you, and to show to show equal vulnerability, Rod,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to stand up and show everyone that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing shorts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to say I love you. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you, Darlin, and we look forward to seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's fun.

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<v Speaker 15>Paul