1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: What are we calling you? Good question. Circus correspondents like that, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: that's awesome from the Australian. This is the front. I'm 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Claire Harvey. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Every so often a crazy assignment pops up in our newsroom. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: In this case, it was to join circ de Sela 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: for the day and pull off some crazy acrobatics without 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: breaking any bones. There was only one journo for the job, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Bianca far Marcus, who's one of those truly multi talented 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: twenty somethings who can do just about anything. Bi Anchor's 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: a filmmaker and a video editor. She's a beautiful writer 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: and a sharply analytical, thoughtful creative. Oh and she's also 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: an ultra fit recreational ballerina. Today we're running away to 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the circus with b Anchor. 14 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: How did you end up at sirk disilay? 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So this is a very very good question because 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: it all centers around the fact that our arts editor 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Tim Douglas, good friend. 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Of the show, end of the Circus and of the Circus, 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: his own dark history at the circus. 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: Yes, his own green haired past. He just emailed me, 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: He's like, would you like to do this? And I 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: said yes, of course, and he's like, good, I think 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: you have a strong core and you actually could, which 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: is an enormous compliment because I don't think I've done 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: a sit up in the past five years. So I 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: waltzed in and it coincides with the Sydney run of 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: circ Disilay's Lucier, which is part magical realism, part fantastical retelling, 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: and this gorgeous, sort of illusory love letter to Mexico 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: and the history of the country, all of its cultural 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: elements woven in, from animals to artistry. You know, it's 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: not just two hours of these incredible stunts. It is 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: two hours of these incredible stunts, but they all feel 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: into this gorgeous narrative, and you watch the peaks and 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: troughs of like these incredible emotional moments. There's these beautiful 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: numbers I believe they call them in a dodge or 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: in adage Yo, where it's more of like a slower 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: group acrobatic performance. And that's when I was watching this 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: girl be swung around like a robe and then thrown 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: into the arms of someone in ping ponged across the 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: other side of the performance hall. Then it comes into 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: this accelerating moment where it's energetic again, and it's meant 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: to kind of manifest this gorgeous history of a country 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: that it has, like this kaleidoscopic culture, but they just 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: bring it to this other worldly level and they think 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: it truly sets apart their comprehension of circus artistry. 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad to see you all in one piece. 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: You posted a video on your Instagram of yourself leaping 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: through a hoop into a forward role on a mat 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: and then managing to come out of it without a 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: fractured vertebrae. 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: How did you know you could pull it off? 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: I had no comptvidence. And that is what I would 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: like to stress to everyone is that there is no athleticism, 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: no prior skills you can retain to prepare you for that. 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: They just said, look, you just need to stretch your 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: neck for thirty seconds, tuck it in and try to 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: avoid hitting your head on the way in. And I 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: was absolutely terrified. I did say, I haven't been off 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: the ground more than my height in probably the last 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: twenty years, so it was good fun. 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: That. 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Septs Alay is forty years old. 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: It's quite remarkable. It's a Canadian circus. But what's different 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: about it? Why is it a different kind of circus? 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: What said circus lay apart from I guess you know, 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: your more conventional circus, is that they have perpetually been 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: what we call now a modern circus, so devoid of 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: any animals. They are very anti that, and they make 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: up for it in this beautiful way and kind of 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: pay homage to this sort of complex history of animal 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: performers by having the most fantastical costumes. I was amazed 72 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: that in the middle of this rehearsal space they had 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: all these animal heads around, like there's some kind of 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: deities of the cirk Disilay just watching them, and they're like, no, 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: we actually perform acrobatics in them. They're quite heavy. I 76 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: was like, there's no way. I mean, I was scared 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: about breaking my neck being five centimeters off the ground. 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: These people are coming in with like ten kilo cheetah 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: print heads and horses and everything. That's what I love 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: about Cirq Disilay is that they have completely transcended that 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: galling stereotype and had the most impressive reimagination of what 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: circus can be. 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: An art form that you and I both love is 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: ballet absolutely. Ballerina said to me once that the test 85 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: of great ballet is that it should be art, not acrobatics. 86 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: Movements should be considered and should be part of the 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: kind of artistic story. And if dancers kind of or 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: choreographers try too hard to just be athletic and kind 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: of show off their prowess, they're losing the point, losing 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: the art. Circus is something where we expect some level 91 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: of acrobatics and insert Disilay. It's certainly exceptional acrobatics, but 92 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: they have added on the level of artistry or almost 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 2: a spiritual aspect to it that we don't really expect 94 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: from Circus, do we. 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: No, not at all. 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: I mean with Cirk Disilay, I think the artistry comes 97 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: from this amalgamation of different forms. They pay respect to 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: visual arts to music. You have a whole little den, 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 3: which probably gets to about one hundred and forty degrees, 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: is where all the musicians sit underneath the stage, and 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 3: they are the only live musicians in any art form 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: that actually respond to the performers, rather than the performers 103 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: responding to them. Another aspect of the show is that 104 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: the whole thing is drenched in over five thousand liters 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: of water the entire time, which, again I stress cannot 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: think of a more questionable combination. 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean I nearly slipped in. 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: The shower on my way over there. It was embarrassing enough, 109 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: but it's such a magical thing to see because it 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: has combined all these elements that are akin to the arts, 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: but also it's devoid of if I can say this 112 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: as a fan of many snobby art forms, it is 113 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: devoid of that snobbery where there is no elitism other 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: than the physical part, because it just has such an 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: embrace to every single other art form that they engage 116 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: with to bring the show together. 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: Did you learn much about their exercise and diet regime? 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 2: You know how they get these bodies that are able 119 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: to do these incredible things. 120 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I did so. 121 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: I spoke to the two Australian performers, and Nathan Smiles, 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: who is very adequately named because the man does not 123 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: stop grinning. He tells me that work on this philosophy 124 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: where they want the show to be the easiest part 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: of the day. They do six hours of strength and 126 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: conditioning at a minimum, broken into two exercise lots. Then 127 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: they do rehearsals in which they not only go through 128 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: elements of the routine that they'd like to refine for 129 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: that night's performance, but then they throw in a period 130 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: about an hour where they just practice tricks that they'd 131 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: love to work into a future show, things that they 132 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: typically work on for two years before they even make 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: it to the crowd. 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: Coming up the story of one audience member, a little 135 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Australian girl whose dream was to be on that big stage. 136 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: Circus has a dark history as well as being this 137 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: art form that's four children primarily, but is capable of 138 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: making everybody feel like a child on any level. Really, 139 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: there's I think an association for us in our culture 140 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: of circus as an energy place on the margins and 141 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: a history of animal mistreatment, a history or performers being mistreated. 142 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: And of these people as kind of fringe dwellers. 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: Septus Alay has turned that art form into this phenomenally successful, 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: very mainstream, financially lucrative production. What do you think is 145 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: the balance there between honoring I suppose, the heritage of 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: circus while being in what sounds like a very functional 147 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: and happy environment. 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: You know, when I first told people I was going 149 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: to the circus, they immediately said, well, you've always been 150 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: a clown when you don't wax, you're the bearded lady. 151 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: And oh that is hush. 152 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: It's finally good to see you joining the freak show. 153 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: So it was like that immediate connotation which does spring 154 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 3: to mind, and it's so fascinating because it doesn't translate whatsoever. 155 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: And I think what blows my mind with Curp Disilay 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: and how they kind of do walk that final between 157 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: the legacy and the heritage is that it is so 158 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,479 Speaker 3: auady and s driven and they have this unique capacity 159 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: to be able to translate their show. 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the show has been viewed by four million people. 161 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: I think they said something like forty different countries they've 162 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: traveled to in the forty year history, which is unbelievable. 163 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: But it is entirely rooted in this idea of like, 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: we are entertainers first, we are performers second, and we 165 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: fuse that into the legacy of how we want people 166 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: to perceive this act, and it still relies solely on 167 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: whether they know that people are going to be smiling 168 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: or they're going to be moved, or they're going to 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: feel emotional, they're going to feel connected, like it is 170 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: very much a fuel process that they cannot perform if 171 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: they do not feel like they're making people smile. And 172 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: it's it makes me emotional because I was speaking to 173 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: one in the performers and names Helena Murdon Incredible acrobatch 174 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: is a former diver, did every single sport associated with 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: heights you can imagine. And she was telling me she 176 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: saw her first sex dissolay show when she was seven 177 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: in her hometown of Brisbane, and she was so enamored 178 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: and she had this, you know, like this childlike innocence 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: to her. She was like, well, I can do a backflip, 180 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: so surely I can be part of this show. And 181 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: it actually fueled her to do that and she celebrated 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: this year twenty years on performing on the same stage 183 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: she first witnessed as a child and completed that circle 184 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: of magic. And to her, it was this idea that 185 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: I witnessed a spectacle in a dream come to life 186 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: before me, I didn't witness the show, and then. 187 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I made it happen. That's very movie I know. 188 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: Oh, oh my gosh. I was driven to tears mainly 189 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: because of that story, but also because my back was 190 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: killing me at that point. 191 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, now I want you to teach me how to 192 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: do a forward role. 193 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, you got to tuck your neck in and 194 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: then hope for the best. 195 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you. 196 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: To get tickets to serc to Sola, just search Lucia. 197 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: That's Luzia. You can read Bianchor's story and watch her 198 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: inaction right now in The Australian's Review section. 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