WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 21 November 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.800 Live on Sky News Australia. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.400 This is to Nika de Georgio. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:09.600 Hello and welcome to the show. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.080 Coming up tonight, Kelly Sloane elected new South Wales Liberal leader. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.280 So much for the calls for quotas and the party's 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.640 woman problem. Chris Bowen is about to become the country's 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.279 first part time minister, splitting his time between overseeing the 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.320 Renewables only experiment at home while serving as president for 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.080 Turkey's COP thirty one summit. And why it's time for 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.839 a serious debate about immigration in Australia. It's a debate 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:39.280 that takes courage and conviction. But first tonight, who says 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.040 the Liberal Party has a woman problem? Almost everywhere across 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:48.680 the country women are now leading the party's respected state branches. Today, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.320 former journalist Kelly Sloane was appointed new South Wales opposition 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.000 leader in an uncontested ballot after Mark Speakman resigned yesterday. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:02.360 I don't underestimate the challenge ahead of us, but I 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.560 am ready for the fight and as a team, we 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:05.560 are ready for the fight. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.800 Her deputy, also a woman, Natalie Ward. In Victoria. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.839 This week, Jess Wilson was appointed opposition leader nationally of course, 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.720 Susan Lee leads the party and in the Northern territory 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.440 Leofanocchiaro is Chief Minister. Now Labor can bang on all 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.920 they like about quotas, but this all happened without who 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.679 would have thought. And for the record, and I've said 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.800 this before, I could not care less about the gender 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.000 of those appointed to these roles as long as it 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.319 was earned and that they are the right person for 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.399 the job. Now I find quotas offensive personally, but the 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.800 point is the Liberal Party was considering quotas after this 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.680 year's election loss and they still filled roles with women 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:53.040 across the country. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:54.880 What does that say? 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.800 Well, I think if this is not a warning to 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.320 stick to conservative roots, thing. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.080 Will ever stick now. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.200 As for New South Wales, the branch is in a 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.120 total mess. A poll last month found the coalition is 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.360 facing a blood bath at the next state election. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.120 Its primary vote. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.040 Has slumped by five point four percent since twenty twenty three, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.880 with Labour now ahead fifty nine forty one to two 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.160 party preferred. That's a swing of four point seven percent 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.520 to Labor since the last election and there is no 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.280 doubt about it. Mark Speakman had to go, but the 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.600 branch is riddled by factions and it's toxic, and now 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.079 Kelly Sloane provides a new look party. It's been a 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.720 quick rise to the top. She was elected as an 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.960 MP at the last state election. She's a very solid 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.160 communicator and will likely have a lot more cut through 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.200 than her predecessor. In fact, I think the party needs 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.720 someone like her to be competitive against the popular Premier 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:51.600 Chris Mins. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.880 But already an energy fight is brewing. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.400 Kelly Sloan is a moderate and the member for Vourclous, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.559 the state equivalent of a llegal spender's seat of Wentworth, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.720 and already she's at odds with her federal counterpart. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.920 Zero is okay, no change, no change. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.239 We had a party room meeting this week and there 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.320 was strong support to maintain our existing physition. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.600 So how will this play out when the parties are 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.680 at odds. I'll get analysis on the new South Wales 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.480 Liberals changing of the Guard with former Police Minister David 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:29.200 Elliott and Independent MP Tanyama Hayleik later in the show. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.880 Chris Bowen has broken many records and has had many firsts. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.240 As Australia's Climate Change and Energy Minister, He's overseen record 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.600 power price increases of up to forty percent twenty four 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.920 percent this year alone. He's the first minister to promise 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.720 your power bills would go down by two hundred and 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.680 seventy five dollars. And now he can add a new 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:58.200 achievement to his growing repertoire. Chris Bowen is going part time. Yes, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.040 in an Australian first, Chris Owen is about to become 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.200 the country's first part time minister, operating on a fly in, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.040 flyout basis and incredibly seeking to serve not just one 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.280 country but two. You see, the Minister for Climate Change 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.640 and Energy is going to split his time between overseeing 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.960 the renewables only experiment at home while at the same 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.280 time serving as president for Turkey's COP thirty one summit 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.040 to be held in that country next year. Yes, he's 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.760 going to dispense his vast climate and energy expertise and 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.920 talents on the world stage as part of a package deal. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.159 After Australia seated the summit to Turkey, he officially becomes 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.000 the international man of mystery, just like Austin Powers. And 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.560 it's quite an amazing feat when you think about it, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.800 for someone who is utterly ordinary and quite frankly subpar. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.680 I mean, he can't keep the lights on in this country. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.280 Yet has been appointed COP thirty one President for Turkey 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.039 to lea international climate negotiations for the next twelve months. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.600 And by the way, it's a role which will take 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.479 him away from his day job, a role which will 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.320 see him spend a lot of time overseas. Had a 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.360 lot of time on his jet engine. That's a lot 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.760 of miles to come racking up carbon emissions. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:20.760 Also, he can be the Minister for. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.840 Turkey or whatever the hecky's title is now and number 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.680 one not to toot his own horn in the process. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.599 As comp President of Negotiations, Iwood has all the powers 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.480 of COP presidency to manage to handle the negotiations, to 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.920 appoint co facilitators, to prepare draft text, how to issue 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:43.520 the cover decision. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.360 All of the powers. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.880 He says, what a supreme leader this man has become. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.880 Yes, look, this really is extraordinary. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.520 Given his portrait track record at home, I think that 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.560 Turkey can have him. Our power bills never came down 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.560 by two hundred and seventy five dollars. We've been worn 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.000 time and time again by experts that we will not 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.200 reach our emissions reduction targets as they are via this 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:19.320 experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, green hydrogen, solar 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:20.279 farms and batteries. 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.160 Yet Bowen still. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.560 Unveiled a twenty thirty five emissions reduction target of sixty 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.919 two to seventy percent below two thousand and five levels, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.919 with no clue what it means for your power bills. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:34.839 Now, if he can't. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.560 Even fulfill his very basic duties as it is, and 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.000 now he's going part time, then surely it's time for 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:47.040 Anthony Albanezi to sack this minister. He was backed in 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.159 by his constituents. He was appointed a minister here in 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.760 this country. So if he wants to go off on 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.280 this vanity project, we'll go. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.680 But he does not deserve to keep his portfolio on or. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.159 When it suits him based and those calls were echoed 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:02.919 by the opposition. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:07.640 Today, Australians don't need a part time energy minister, a 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.680 minister for global UN summit, someone who's clearly excited about 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.040 the prospect of globe trotting to a variety of countries 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.600 and his real job is here at home. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.280 We've got a part time energy minister in the middle 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.760 of an energy crisis. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.880 We've got power bills going through the roof. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:32.000 He can actually understand that globally, the renewables only process 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.000 is leading to some of the highest industrial energy prices 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:35.600 in the world. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.840 Now, I think Johanna Sleek summed it up in The 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.040 Australian Today with his cartoon saying Australia, my work. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:43.880 Here is done. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.880 The planet needs me now as Bowen jets off, leaving 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.480 a burning inferno of wind turbines and transmission towers in Australia. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.920 So who exactly is Chris Bowen now? The part time 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.000 Minister for Climate Change and Energy, the Minister for US 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:04.000 when summit's the international manner mystery, the Minister for Turkey, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.000 perhaps the president of Cop thirty one, the Minister for 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.040 fly and fly out, who really knows? Or perhaps just 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:20.040 a jack of all trades, master of none. Now it's 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.120 probably going to get uncomfortable and some hard truths will 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.880 be revealed, But it's time for a serious debate about 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.320 immigration in Australia. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.360 What sort of a country do we want to live in? 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.600 This is a debate that takes courage and conviction because 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.920 the left love to label the very topic is racist. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.280 I mean, you dare have a debate and suddenly as 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.920 some sort of right wing nutjob load of nonsense. It's 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.560 not racist to have a conversation about the number of 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.120 people being brought into this country. It's not racist to 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.800 have a conversation about the types of people we are 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.000 bringing into this country. It's not only about quantity, it's 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:02.520 also about quality. Immigration is an acute vote driving issue 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.160 and you know that because the standard of living has 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.520 diminished and social cohesion is collapsing. In fact, Australians are 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:14.440 now more worried about immigration than climate change. But god forbid, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.600 don't tell the part time Energy Minister Chris Bowen who's 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.640 over in Brazil that whatever you do now. That's according 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.719 to a Spector Strategy poll. Its director Morgan James said quote. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.280 The results were predictable as both the Liberals and Labor 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.320 were perceived as failing to engage the issue head on, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.839 despite concerns that recent high migrant intakes have put huge 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.960 pressure on housing markets, infrastructure. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.520 And social cohesion. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.360 This is a debate that has to happen and I 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.360 think this is why we need a population plebi site 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.920 where you get to have a say on how big 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.560 you want this country to be and what sort of 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:54.960 a country you want to live in. 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.200 That's what democracy is about, right. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.280 Pauline Hanson has pushed for a national vote on this 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.040 for years and has been overwhelmingly shut down by the 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.480 Senate every time. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.319 Here she was in twenty nineteen on a Plever site. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.959 It just makes common sense to understand that more people 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.440 means more demand for services. If those services are not 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.120 established at a pace that keeps up with the growth, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:23.080 then lifestyles will go backwards. And with the stagnant lifestyles 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.920 or Australians have been experiencing in the past decade, we 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.439 certainly don't want things to get any worse. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.640 And the reality is it has got worse since then. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:37.800 Population growth is outpacing infrastructure. There's less housing, it's more expensive. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.920 Labour has presided over a migration disaster. One point two 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.560 million migrants have come into this country since Labour was elected. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.680 Australia's population will likely reach twenty eight million by twenty 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.000 twenty seven alone, and at the same time, Labour has 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.840 failed to deliver on any of its housing targets. The 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.720 supply of new homes is likely to fall twenty percent 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.320 short of Labours one point two million target by twenty 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.920 twenty nine. Only one hundred and eighty thousand homes were 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.320 built this financial year. That's well short of the two 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.000 hundred and forty thousand. So where are we going to 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.439 put all these people? We can't even get every day 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:16.560 Aussie's into houses. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.680 Now, Look, if the Liberals. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.000 Are serious, they would come up with a policy that 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.559 puts a figure on. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.120 The number of people coming in. And that's a hard figure. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.800 According to The Australian this week, Susan Lee will release 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.880 immigration policy principles and directions rather than a fixed net 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.760 migration number before Christmas. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:36.880 Now I fear the. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.959 Liberal Party seems destined to do the migration hokey pokey, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.439 half in, half out. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:42.440 How can you have. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.199 An immigration policy without a serious fixed target? 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.480 How can you sell it between now and an election? 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.280 It needs a figure, put a number on it, have 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.760 the courage to do so. Otherwise why have a policy 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.920 at all? 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.520 And it's not just a targeted migration program. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.320 We deserve to protect our values and that means we 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.199 must look at the types of people we're bringing in. Now, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.080 we've already seen our social cohesion break, especially after October 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.800 seven twenty twenty three, and that's not be racist. I 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.720 mean we need to do everything we can to protect 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.880 this country, or do we risk falling the way of 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.840 the United Kingdom, a country that does not know itself 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.319 anymore and has been completely overrun by foreigners and not 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:25.800 necessarily ones. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.480 Who share British values at heart. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.680 Now, the Liberals in the short term are saying that 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.720 they won't put a number on the table. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.600 But we've seen this play out before. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.280 In the weeks leading up to this year's election, Peter 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.760 Dutton did put out a migration plan pledging to cut 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.960 the annual net migrant intake by at least one hundred thousand, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.000 but it seemed to disappear into the never never, just 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.600 like the coalition's nuclear policy, where it was barely mentioned 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:54.319 and barely prosecuted. Now, Macro Business chief economists Leith Vannsulin, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.160 who I will speak too shortly, has written about how 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.280 Canada has had a sensible discussion on immigration by linking 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.920 it directly to the rental crisis, infrastructure and living standards. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.120 He says it implemented a three year population freeze in 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.720 mid twenty twenty four and as a result, its net 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:17.440 overseas migration has pomitted. Now it takes courage, but right 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.920 now we can't seem to have that discussion here and 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.600 no wonder voters are looking elsewhere. There's surging support for 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.640 One Nation from voters who increasingly don't feel heard by 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.199 major parties over population issues. That's according to a poll 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.000 taken between November four to seventeen, which also showed support 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.120 for one Nation has increased by eleven percent to seventeen 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.920 point five percent since the May election. The reality is 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.480 nobody ever voted for a big Australia, yet here we 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.559 are living in a big Australia. Multiculturalism and mass migration 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.040 have been thrust upon us with no room for debate 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.320 about the sort of country we want to become. And 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.920 this is why the left don't want you to have 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.880 this debate, because migration suits labor politically, it props up 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.640 the Ponzi scheme economy, and as I said earlier, why 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.600 not put it to a vote? 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.200 What do you want? 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.960 How many people do you want coming into this country? 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.000 How big should Australia get? And in the meantime, unless 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.520 someone can actually convince me about the merits of a 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:20.160 big Australia. It's time to put some serious policy in place. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:24.400 Now. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.600 The Prime Minister has spent the past week ducking and 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.560 weaving over the Britney Higgins saga and seem to struggle 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.120 with the difference between the rape claim and the now 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.280 discredited claim of a political cover up by the Liberal 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.080 Party and former Defense Minister Linda Reynolds. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.640 Should your senators, who led. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.680 The charge of a Liberal Party coverer over the Higgins 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.560 case apologize to the traders? 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.720 Well, that's not right. I don't accept that characterization. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.880 Look, the public deserves to know the truth here. Firstly, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.000 why did miss Higgins receive a two point four million. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.240 Dollar taxpayer payout? 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.480 And secondly did the Prime Minister and mean go Katie 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.880 Gallaher and Penny Wong exploit this saga for political gain? 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.840 Joddy manow Is, the Shadow Attorney General, Andrew Wallace Andrew 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:12.040 good to catch up. As always, two judicial findings rejected 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.000 claims of a political cover up. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.080 So what's there to hide here from the Prime Minister? 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.280 Do you think, Well, there's a lot to hide. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.200 I think I think the Prime Minister is an absolute 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.960 world of hurt on this issue because he knows how 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.040 much the Labor Party and he himself weaponized this issue 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.680 in the lead up to the twenty twenty two election. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.320 I was the Speaker at the time. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.320 I sat there and listened to the Prime Minister absolutely 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:49.920 categorically weaponize the rape allegation at that stage that Britney 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.680 Higgins was making against Scott Morrison as the Liberal Prime 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.040 Minister and against the Liberal Party directly. You know, they 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.680 weaponized this as being part of what they held out 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.680 to be a woman problem. And we all know now 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.080 that there was no cover up. But it goes deeper 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.800 than that. Janet Orbrickson has done a tremendous job unveiling 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.400 a lot of this just in the last. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:16.880 Couple of weeks. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.440 Let's look at it. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:24.960 We know that the Commonwealth, when Mark Dreyfus was the 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:31.000 Attorney General, sidelined Linda Reynolds from her own mediation. So 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:35.000 she was a party to the proceedings, and Mark Dreyfus said, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.320 you can't take part in the proceedings. If you do, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:44.040 we'll stop funding your defense. So Linda Reynolds couldn't go 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.840 to the mediation. She was banned from going to that mediation. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.960 She was banned from being able to defend her own 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:57.160 good name. We now know that the government extended the 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:02.520 limitation period for which Britney Higgins was able to sue 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.200 both the Commonwealth. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:04.880 And Linda Reynolds. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.280 Now they made that decision without any reference to Linda 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.720 Reynolds whatsoever. We now know that there are also other 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.000 letters that have been coming out that have called into 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:23.359 question the ratio percentage of blame that Britney Higgins said 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.320 that she was entitled to from a psychologist. There are 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.159 so many things that are absolutely stinked to high heaven. Then, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.920 of course, with just a half day mediation, a half 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:40.280 day mediation, unprecedentedly the Commonwealth awarded two point four million 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:45.320 dollars to Britney Higgins. This stinks to high heaven and 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.960 there's a lot of questions to answer for here. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.240 Look, I agree, we still don't know why Britney Higgins 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.639 Higgins was given that two point four million dollars. There 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.440 are so many unanswered questions, but the Prime Minister was 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.560 very clearly ducking and weaving on this issue. This week, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.680 let's talk about Chris Bowen Andrew in an Australian first. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.520 Apparently he's going to be the first meed do we 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.879 really need to talk about it. I know, I know. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.520 Look it's not my favorite topic either. But he's apparently 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.080 going part time. This is an Australian first. Would you 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.520 believe part time energy minister is going to take up 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.479 this role as president of COP thirty one after Turkey 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:23.600 successfully won the bid, but then also try and continue 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.639 to control the energy grid here at home. The problem 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.240 is Andrew, he can't control the grid here, but now 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.000 he's going fly in, fly out. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.720 I mean you, you just can't make this sort of 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.560 stuff up to Nika. The only thing I can say 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.960 is our game is the world's loss. But I mean, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.359 this is a guy that promised us, along with the 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.640 Prime Minister, promised the Australian's two hundred and seventy five 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.720 dollars power cuts in the lead up to the twenty 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.120 two election, and we're all paying more than a thousand 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:56.679 dollars extra for our energy. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:58.320 And that's just mums and dad. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:18:59.040 It's what about. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.040 Businesses that are going to wall. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.840 Because they can't afford to keep their doors open anymore. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.479 More businesses are going to the wall in Australia today 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.760 than in any other period in our modern history, and 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:17.159 it's because of this bloke's energy policies, and according to 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.399 the Prime Minister, he's going to be over there solving 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.280 the world's problems police. 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.959 Well, yeah, he's his expertise. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.800 He's going to show that off to Turkey on the 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.560 world stage, all of his great knowledge about energy. Andrew, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.720 before we let you go, Olbow's overseas again, this time 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.639 in South Africa for the G twenty. Another week, another 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.080 summit for the Prime Minister. What is he going to 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.040 achieve this time? 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.639 Well, it is important that the Prime Minister goes to 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.720 these meetings. But I'll tell you what. He will be 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.720 very very pleased to be out of the national spotlight 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.800 in relation to the Britney Higgins issue. But he'll obviously 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.520 be traveling with an Australian press pack and I would 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.159 encourage them to keep the pressure on because there's a 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:05.520 lot more to come out of this story. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:06.000 Just yet. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.800 I completely agree with you. Let's see how the week unfolds. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.119 Andrew Wallace, nice to chat as always, as we do 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:11.600 every week. 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.000 Thank you very much for joining me. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.200 Well, as I mentioned earlier, Australians are now more worried 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.440 about immigration than climate change. According to a new poll 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:20.520 in the Daily Telegraph. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:21.600 The Coalition is. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.119 Reportedly looking at reducing the annual net migrant intake by 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.679 at least one hundred thousand below current levels. Joining me 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.119 now is Macro Business Chief Economists Leith van Nonsulin, Leif 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.439 thanks for joining me. One hundred thousand that's the figure 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:36.359 being floated? 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:37.520 Is that enough? 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.479 Look, it's obviously an improvement on labor, but a reduction 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.480 of one hundred thousand would merely return immigration back to 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.639 its pre pandemic level, which was still far too high 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.120 and that resulted in chronic housing infrastructure shortages. So NETO 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.679 overseas migration average about two hundred and twenty thousand in 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.879 the fifteen years lead up to the pandemicdemic, and that 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.840 was labeled Big Australia. So it seems like the Coalition 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.280 wants a big Australia as opposed to Labour's Huge Australia. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.760 But it'd still see a population grew to about forty 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.000 million people by twenty sixty, Ceddey and Melbourne about eight 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.800 and nine million each, So what the Coalition's proposed is 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:11.800 still far too high. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:13.879 So what does the figure need to be? 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.239 I mean, the Coalition at this point said that they 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.399 might be reluctant to put a hard figure on it 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.600 between now and Christmas. If you had to put a 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.240 figure on the table to make a tangible impact, what 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:23.880 would it be. 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.600 Yeah, Look, I'd like to see that overseas migration cut 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.359 to below one hundred and fifty thousand, just kind of 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.520 what Peter Dutton was proposing. But it needs to be 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.600 focused on genuine skills the nation actually needs. So we 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.200