Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika de Georgio.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, Kelly Sloane elected new South Wales Liberal leader.
Speaker 4: So much for the calls for quotas and the party's
Speaker 4: woman problem. Chris Bowen is about to become the country's
Speaker 4: first part time minister, splitting his time between overseeing the
Speaker 4: Renewables only experiment at home while serving as president for
Speaker 4: Turkey's COP thirty one summit. And why it's time for
Speaker 4: a serious debate about immigration in Australia. It's a debate
Speaker 4: that takes courage and conviction. But first tonight, who says
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party has a woman problem? Almost everywhere across
Speaker 4: the country women are now leading the party's respected state branches. Today,
Speaker 4: former journalist Kelly Sloane was appointed new South Wales opposition
Speaker 4: leader in an uncontested ballot after Mark Speakman resigned yesterday.
Speaker 5: I don't underestimate the challenge ahead of us, but I
Speaker 5: am ready for the fight and as a team, we
Speaker 5: are ready for the fight.
Speaker 3: Her deputy, also a woman, Natalie Ward. In Victoria.
Speaker 4: This week, Jess Wilson was appointed opposition leader nationally of course,
Speaker 4: Susan Lee leads the party and in the Northern territory
Speaker 4: Leofanocchiaro is Chief Minister. Now Labor can bang on all
Speaker 4: they like about quotas, but this all happened without who
Speaker 4: would have thought. And for the record, and I've said
Speaker 4: this before, I could not care less about the gender
Speaker 4: of those appointed to these roles as long as it
Speaker 4: was earned and that they are the right person for
Speaker 4: the job. Now I find quotas offensive personally, but the
Speaker 4: point is the Liberal Party was considering quotas after this
Speaker 4: year's election loss and they still filled roles with women
Speaker 4: across the country.
Speaker 3: What does that say?
Speaker 4: Well, I think if this is not a warning to
Speaker 4: stick to conservative roots, thing.
Speaker 3: Will ever stick now.
Speaker 4: As for New South Wales, the branch is in a
Speaker 4: total mess. A poll last month found the coalition is
Speaker 4: facing a blood bath at the next state election.
Speaker 3: Its primary vote.
Speaker 4: Has slumped by five point four percent since twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: with Labour now ahead fifty nine forty one to two
Speaker 4: party preferred. That's a swing of four point seven percent
Speaker 4: to Labor since the last election and there is no
Speaker 4: doubt about it. Mark Speakman had to go, but the
Speaker 4: branch is riddled by factions and it's toxic, and now
Speaker 4: Kelly Sloane provides a new look party. It's been a
Speaker 4: quick rise to the top. She was elected as an
Speaker 4: MP at the last state election. She's a very solid
Speaker 4: communicator and will likely have a lot more cut through
Speaker 4: than her predecessor. In fact, I think the party needs
Speaker 4: someone like her to be competitive against the popular Premier
Speaker 4: Chris Mins.
Speaker 3: But already an energy fight is brewing.
Speaker 4: Kelly Sloan is a moderate and the member for Vourclous,
Speaker 4: the state equivalent of a llegal spender's seat of Wentworth,
Speaker 4: and already she's at odds with her federal counterpart.
Speaker 6: Zero is okay, no change, no change.
Speaker 5: We had a party room meeting this week and there
Speaker 5: was strong support to maintain our existing physition.
Speaker 4: So how will this play out when the parties are
Speaker 4: at odds. I'll get analysis on the new South Wales
Speaker 4: Liberals changing of the Guard with former Police Minister David
Speaker 4: Elliott and Independent MP Tanyama Hayleik later in the show.
Speaker 4: Chris Bowen has broken many records and has had many firsts.
Speaker 4: As Australia's Climate Change and Energy Minister, He's overseen record
Speaker 4: power price increases of up to forty percent twenty four
Speaker 4: percent this year alone. He's the first minister to promise
Speaker 4: your power bills would go down by two hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy five dollars. And now he can add a new
Speaker 4: achievement to his growing repertoire. Chris Bowen is going part time. Yes,
Speaker 4: in an Australian first, Chris Owen is about to become
Speaker 4: the country's first part time minister, operating on a fly in,
Speaker 4: flyout basis and incredibly seeking to serve not just one
Speaker 4: country but two. You see, the Minister for Climate Change
Speaker 4: and Energy is going to split his time between overseeing
Speaker 4: the renewables only experiment at home while at the same
Speaker 4: time serving as president for Turkey's COP thirty one summit
Speaker 4: to be held in that country next year. Yes, he's
Speaker 4: going to dispense his vast climate and energy expertise and
Speaker 4: talents on the world stage as part of a package deal.
Speaker 4: After Australia seated the summit to Turkey, he officially becomes
Speaker 4: the international man of mystery, just like Austin Powers. And
Speaker 4: it's quite an amazing feat when you think about it,
Speaker 4: for someone who is utterly ordinary and quite frankly subpar.
Speaker 4: I mean, he can't keep the lights on in this country.
Speaker 4: Yet has been appointed COP thirty one President for Turkey
Speaker 4: to lea international climate negotiations for the next twelve months.
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's a role which will take
Speaker 4: him away from his day job, a role which will
Speaker 4: see him spend a lot of time overseas. Had a
Speaker 4: lot of time on his jet engine. That's a lot
Speaker 4: of miles to come racking up carbon emissions.
Speaker 3: Also, he can be the Minister for.
Speaker 4: Turkey or whatever the hecky's title is now and number
Speaker 4: one not to toot his own horn in the process.
Speaker 7: As comp President of Negotiations, Iwood has all the powers
Speaker 7: of COP presidency to manage to handle the negotiations, to
Speaker 7: appoint co facilitators, to prepare draft text, how to issue
Speaker 7: the cover decision.
Speaker 3: All of the powers.
Speaker 4: He says, what a supreme leader this man has become.
Speaker 3: Yes, look, this really is extraordinary.
Speaker 4: Given his portrait track record at home, I think that
Speaker 4: Turkey can have him. Our power bills never came down
Speaker 4: by two hundred and seventy five dollars. We've been worn
Speaker 4: time and time again by experts that we will not
Speaker 4: reach our emissions reduction targets as they are via this
Speaker 4: experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, green hydrogen, solar
Speaker 4: farms and batteries.
Speaker 3: Yet Bowen still.
Speaker 4: Unveiled a twenty thirty five emissions reduction target of sixty
Speaker 4: two to seventy percent below two thousand and five levels,
Speaker 4: with no clue what it means for your power bills.
Speaker 3: Now, if he can't.
Speaker 4: Even fulfill his very basic duties as it is, and
Speaker 4: now he's going part time, then surely it's time for
Speaker 4: Anthony Albanezi to sack this minister. He was backed in
Speaker 4: by his constituents. He was appointed a minister here in
Speaker 4: this country. So if he wants to go off on
Speaker 4: this vanity project, we'll go.
Speaker 3: But he does not deserve to keep his portfolio on or.
Speaker 4: When it suits him based and those calls were echoed
Speaker 4: by the opposition.
Speaker 8: Today, Australians don't need a part time energy minister, a
Speaker 8: minister for global UN summit, someone who's clearly excited about
Speaker 8: the prospect of globe trotting to a variety of countries
Speaker 8: and his real job is here at home.
Speaker 9: We've got a part time energy minister in the middle
Speaker 9: of an energy crisis.
Speaker 3: We've got power bills going through the roof.
Speaker 9: He can actually understand that globally, the renewables only process
Speaker 9: is leading to some of the highest industrial energy prices
Speaker 9: in the world.
Speaker 4: Now, I think Johanna Sleek summed it up in The
Speaker 4: Australian Today with his cartoon saying Australia, my work.
Speaker 3: Here is done.
Speaker 4: The planet needs me now as Bowen jets off, leaving
Speaker 4: a burning inferno of wind turbines and transmission towers in Australia.
Speaker 4: So who exactly is Chris Bowen now? The part time
Speaker 4: Minister for Climate Change and Energy, the Minister for US
Speaker 4: when summit's the international manner mystery, the Minister for Turkey,
Speaker 4: perhaps the president of Cop thirty one, the Minister for
Speaker 4: fly and fly out, who really knows? Or perhaps just
Speaker 4: a jack of all trades, master of none. Now it's
Speaker 4: probably going to get uncomfortable and some hard truths will
Speaker 4: be revealed, But it's time for a serious debate about
Speaker 4: immigration in Australia.
Speaker 3: What sort of a country do we want to live in?
Speaker 4: This is a debate that takes courage and conviction because
Speaker 4: the left love to label the very topic is racist.
Speaker 4: I mean, you dare have a debate and suddenly as
Speaker 4: some sort of right wing nutjob load of nonsense. It's
Speaker 4: not racist to have a conversation about the number of
Speaker 4: people being brought into this country. It's not racist to
Speaker 4: have a conversation about the types of people we are
Speaker 4: bringing into this country. It's not only about quantity, it's
Speaker 4: also about quality. Immigration is an acute vote driving issue
Speaker 4: and you know that because the standard of living has
Speaker 4: diminished and social cohesion is collapsing. In fact, Australians are
Speaker 4: now more worried about immigration than climate change. But god forbid,
Speaker 4: don't tell the part time Energy Minister Chris Bowen who's
Speaker 4: over in Brazil that whatever you do now. That's according
Speaker 4: to a Spector Strategy poll. Its director Morgan James said quote.
Speaker 4: The results were predictable as both the Liberals and Labor
Speaker 4: were perceived as failing to engage the issue head on,
Speaker 4: despite concerns that recent high migrant intakes have put huge
Speaker 4: pressure on housing markets, infrastructure.
Speaker 3: And social cohesion.
Speaker 4: This is a debate that has to happen and I
Speaker 4: think this is why we need a population plebi site
Speaker 4: where you get to have a say on how big
Speaker 4: you want this country to be and what sort of
Speaker 4: a country you want to live in.
Speaker 3: That's what democracy is about, right.
Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson has pushed for a national vote on this
Speaker 4: for years and has been overwhelmingly shut down by the
Speaker 4: Senate every time.
Speaker 3: Here she was in twenty nineteen on a Plever site.
Speaker 10: It just makes common sense to understand that more people
Speaker 10: means more demand for services. If those services are not
Speaker 10: established at a pace that keeps up with the growth,
Speaker 10: then lifestyles will go backwards. And with the stagnant lifestyles
Speaker 10: or Australians have been experiencing in the past decade, we
Speaker 10: certainly don't want things to get any worse.
Speaker 4: And the reality is it has got worse since then.
Speaker 4: Population growth is outpacing infrastructure. There's less housing, it's more expensive.
Speaker 4: Labour has presided over a migration disaster. One point two
Speaker 4: million migrants have come into this country since Labour was elected.
Speaker 4: Australia's population will likely reach twenty eight million by twenty
Speaker 4: twenty seven alone, and at the same time, Labour has
Speaker 4: failed to deliver on any of its housing targets. The
Speaker 4: supply of new homes is likely to fall twenty percent
Speaker 4: short of Labours one point two million target by twenty
Speaker 4: twenty nine. Only one hundred and eighty thousand homes were
Speaker 4: built this financial year. That's well short of the two
Speaker 4: hundred and forty thousand. So where are we going to
Speaker 4: put all these people? We can't even get every day
Speaker 4: Aussie's into houses.
Speaker 3: Now, Look, if the Liberals.
Speaker 4: Are serious, they would come up with a policy that
Speaker 4: puts a figure on.
Speaker 3: The number of people coming in. And that's a hard figure.
Speaker 4: According to The Australian this week, Susan Lee will release
Speaker 4: immigration policy principles and directions rather than a fixed net
Speaker 4: migration number before Christmas.
Speaker 3: Now I fear the.
Speaker 4: Liberal Party seems destined to do the migration hokey pokey,
Speaker 4: half in, half out.
Speaker 3: How can you have.
Speaker 4: An immigration policy without a serious fixed target?
Speaker 3: How can you sell it between now and an election?
Speaker 4: It needs a figure, put a number on it, have
Speaker 4: the courage to do so. Otherwise why have a policy
Speaker 4: at all?
Speaker 3: And it's not just a targeted migration program.
Speaker 4: We deserve to protect our values and that means we
Speaker 4: must look at the types of people we're bringing in. Now,
Speaker 4: we've already seen our social cohesion break, especially after October
Speaker 4: seven twenty twenty three, and that's not be racist. I
Speaker 4: mean we need to do everything we can to protect
Speaker 4: this country, or do we risk falling the way of
Speaker 4: the United Kingdom, a country that does not know itself
Speaker 4: anymore and has been completely overrun by foreigners and not
Speaker 4: necessarily ones.
Speaker 3: Who share British values at heart.
Speaker 4: Now, the Liberals in the short term are saying that
Speaker 4: they won't put a number on the table.
Speaker 3: But we've seen this play out before.
Speaker 4: In the weeks leading up to this year's election, Peter
Speaker 4: Dutton did put out a migration plan pledging to cut
Speaker 4: the annual net migrant intake by at least one hundred thousand,
Speaker 4: but it seemed to disappear into the never never, just
Speaker 4: like the coalition's nuclear policy, where it was barely mentioned
Speaker 4: and barely prosecuted. Now, Macro Business chief economists Leith Vannsulin,
Speaker 4: who I will speak too shortly, has written about how
Speaker 4: Canada has had a sensible discussion on immigration by linking
Speaker 4: it directly to the rental crisis, infrastructure and living standards.
Speaker 4: He says it implemented a three year population freeze in
Speaker 4: mid twenty twenty four and as a result, its net
Speaker 4: overseas migration has pomitted. Now it takes courage, but right
Speaker 4: now we can't seem to have that discussion here and
Speaker 4: no wonder voters are looking elsewhere. There's surging support for
Speaker 4: One Nation from voters who increasingly don't feel heard by
Speaker 4: major parties over population issues. That's according to a poll
Speaker 4: taken between November four to seventeen, which also showed support
Speaker 4: for one Nation has increased by eleven percent to seventeen
Speaker 4: point five percent since the May election. The reality is
Speaker 4: nobody ever voted for a big Australia, yet here we
Speaker 4: are living in a big Australia. Multiculturalism and mass migration
Speaker 4: have been thrust upon us with no room for debate
Speaker 4: about the sort of country we want to become. And
Speaker 4: this is why the left don't want you to have
Speaker 4: this debate, because migration suits labor politically, it props up
Speaker 4: the Ponzi scheme economy, and as I said earlier, why
Speaker 4: not put it to a vote?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 4: How many people do you want coming into this country?
Speaker 4: How big should Australia get? And in the meantime, unless
Speaker 4: someone can actually convince me about the merits of a
Speaker 4: big Australia. It's time to put some serious policy in place.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: The Prime Minister has spent the past week ducking and
Speaker 4: weaving over the Britney Higgins saga and seem to struggle
Speaker 4: with the difference between the rape claim and the now
Speaker 4: discredited claim of a political cover up by the Liberal
Speaker 4: Party and former Defense Minister Linda Reynolds.
Speaker 11: Should your senators, who led.
Speaker 12: The charge of a Liberal Party coverer over the Higgins
Speaker 12: case apologize to the traders?
Speaker 7: Well, that's not right. I don't accept that characterization.
Speaker 4: Look, the public deserves to know the truth here. Firstly,
Speaker 4: why did miss Higgins receive a two point four million.
Speaker 3: Dollar taxpayer payout?
Speaker 4: And secondly did the Prime Minister and mean go Katie
Speaker 4: Gallaher and Penny Wong exploit this saga for political gain?
Speaker 4: Joddy manow Is, the Shadow Attorney General, Andrew Wallace Andrew
Speaker 4: good to catch up. As always, two judicial findings rejected
Speaker 4: claims of a political cover up.
Speaker 3: So what's there to hide here from the Prime Minister?
Speaker 3: Do you think, Well, there's a lot to hide.
Speaker 13: I think I think the Prime Minister is an absolute
Speaker 13: world of hurt on this issue because he knows how
Speaker 13: much the Labor Party and he himself weaponized this issue
Speaker 13: in the lead up to the twenty twenty two election.
Speaker 3: I was the Speaker at the time.
Speaker 13: I sat there and listened to the Prime Minister absolutely
Speaker 13: categorically weaponize the rape allegation at that stage that Britney
Speaker 13: Higgins was making against Scott Morrison as the Liberal Prime
Speaker 13: Minister and against the Liberal Party directly. You know, they
Speaker 13: weaponized this as being part of what they held out
Speaker 13: to be a woman problem. And we all know now
Speaker 13: that there was no cover up. But it goes deeper
Speaker 13: than that. Janet Orbrickson has done a tremendous job unveiling
Speaker 13: a lot of this just in the last.
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 11: Let's look at it.
Speaker 13: We know that the Commonwealth, when Mark Dreyfus was the
Speaker 13: Attorney General, sidelined Linda Reynolds from her own mediation. So
Speaker 13: she was a party to the proceedings, and Mark Dreyfus said,
Speaker 13: you can't take part in the proceedings. If you do,
Speaker 13: we'll stop funding your defense. So Linda Reynolds couldn't go
Speaker 13: to the mediation. She was banned from going to that mediation.
Speaker 13: She was banned from being able to defend her own
Speaker 13: good name. We now know that the government extended the
Speaker 13: limitation period for which Britney Higgins was able to sue
Speaker 13: both the Commonwealth.
Speaker 3: And Linda Reynolds.
Speaker 13: Now they made that decision without any reference to Linda
Speaker 13: Reynolds whatsoever. We now know that there are also other
Speaker 13: letters that have been coming out that have called into
Speaker 13: question the ratio percentage of blame that Britney Higgins said
Speaker 13: that she was entitled to from a psychologist. There are
Speaker 13: so many things that are absolutely stinked to high heaven. Then,
Speaker 13: of course, with just a half day mediation, a half
Speaker 13: day mediation, unprecedentedly the Commonwealth awarded two point four million
Speaker 13: dollars to Britney Higgins. This stinks to high heaven and
Speaker 13: there's a lot of questions to answer for here.
Speaker 4: Look, I agree, we still don't know why Britney Higgins
Speaker 4: Higgins was given that two point four million dollars. There
Speaker 4: are so many unanswered questions, but the Prime Minister was
Speaker 4: very clearly ducking and weaving on this issue. This week,
Speaker 4: let's talk about Chris Bowen Andrew in an Australian first.
Speaker 3: Apparently he's going to be the first meed do we
Speaker 3: really need to talk about it. I know, I know.
Speaker 4: Look it's not my favorite topic either. But he's apparently
Speaker 4: going part time. This is an Australian first. Would you
Speaker 4: believe part time energy minister is going to take up
Speaker 4: this role as president of COP thirty one after Turkey
Speaker 4: successfully won the bid, but then also try and continue
Speaker 4: to control the energy grid here at home. The problem
Speaker 4: is Andrew, he can't control the grid here, but now
Speaker 4: he's going fly in, fly out.
Speaker 13: I mean you, you just can't make this sort of
Speaker 13: stuff up to Nika. The only thing I can say
Speaker 13: is our game is the world's loss. But I mean,
Speaker 13: this is a guy that promised us, along with the
Speaker 13: Prime Minister, promised the Australian's two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 13: dollars power cuts in the lead up to the twenty
Speaker 13: two election, and we're all paying more than a thousand
Speaker 13: dollars extra for our energy.
Speaker 3: And that's just mums and dad.
Speaker 14: It's what about.
Speaker 3: Businesses that are going to wall.
Speaker 13: Because they can't afford to keep their doors open anymore.
Speaker 13: More businesses are going to the wall in Australia today
Speaker 13: than in any other period in our modern history, and
Speaker 13: it's because of this bloke's energy policies, and according to
Speaker 13: the Prime Minister, he's going to be over there solving
Speaker 13: the world's problems police.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's his expertise.
Speaker 4: He's going to show that off to Turkey on the
Speaker 4: world stage, all of his great knowledge about energy. Andrew,
Speaker 4: before we let you go, Olbow's overseas again, this time
Speaker 4: in South Africa for the G twenty. Another week, another
Speaker 4: summit for the Prime Minister. What is he going to
Speaker 4: achieve this time?
Speaker 13: Well, it is important that the Prime Minister goes to
Speaker 13: these meetings. But I'll tell you what. He will be
Speaker 13: very very pleased to be out of the national spotlight
Speaker 13: in relation to the Britney Higgins issue. But he'll obviously
Speaker 13: be traveling with an Australian press pack and I would
Speaker 13: encourage them to keep the pressure on because there's a
Speaker 13: lot more to come out of this story.
Speaker 11: Just yet.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. Let's see how the week unfolds.
Speaker 4: Andrew Wallace, nice to chat as always, as we do
Speaker 4: every week.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining me.
Speaker 4: Well, as I mentioned earlier, Australians are now more worried
Speaker 4: about immigration than climate change. According to a new poll
Speaker 4: in the Daily Telegraph.
Speaker 3: The Coalition is.
Speaker 4: Reportedly looking at reducing the annual net migrant intake by
Speaker 4: at least one hundred thousand below current levels. Joining me
Speaker 4: now is Macro Business Chief Economists Leith van Nonsulin, Leif
Speaker 4: thanks for joining me. One hundred thousand that's the figure
Speaker 4: being floated?
Speaker 3: Is that enough?
Speaker 1: Look, it's obviously an improvement on labor, but a reduction
Speaker 1: of one hundred thousand would merely return immigration back to
Speaker 1: its pre pandemic level, which was still far too high
Speaker 1: and that resulted in chronic housing infrastructure shortages. So NETO
Speaker 1: overseas migration average about two hundred and twenty thousand in
Speaker 1: the fifteen years lead up to the pandemicdemic, and that
Speaker 1: was labeled Big Australia. So it seems like the Coalition
Speaker 1: wants a big Australia as opposed to Labour's Huge Australia.
Speaker 1: But it'd still see a population grew to about forty
Speaker 1: million people by twenty sixty, Ceddey and Melbourne about eight
Speaker 1: and nine million each, So what the Coalition's proposed is
Speaker 1: still far too high.
Speaker 3: So what does the figure need to be?
Speaker 4: I mean, the Coalition at this point said that they
Speaker 4: might be reluctant to put a hard figure on it
Speaker 4: between now and Christmas. If you had to put a
Speaker 4: figure on the table to make a tangible impact, what
Speaker 4: would it be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I'd like to see that overseas migration cut
Speaker 1: to below one hundred and fifty thousand, just kind of
Speaker 1: what Peter Dutton was proposing. But it needs to be
Speaker 1: focused on genuine skills the nation actually needs. So we
Speaker 1: need tradings rather than uber drivers that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So you know, the fact of the matter is the numbers
Speaker 1: are far too high. We've got the wrong type of
Speaker 1: workers coming in. That's why we've got chronic housing shortages,
Speaker 1: chronic infrastructure shortages. But we've also got perpetual skills shortages
Speaker 1: despite running a high immigration program. So it's just not working.
Speaker 3: I mentioned this before.
Speaker 4: You have said in the past that Canada is an
Speaker 4: example about a success story when it comes to lowering migration.
Speaker 4: What can the Liberals learn from that experience, do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like Australia, Canada massively ramped up immigration after
Speaker 1: the pandemic and it resulted in the worst ever renal crisis,
Speaker 1: amongst a whole bunch of other issues. But unlike Canada, sorry,
Speaker 1: unlike Australia, Canada's left leaning government implemented a three year
Speaker 1: immigration freeze population freeze, and that's resulted in a massive
Speaker 1: reduction in immigration, thirteen months of falling rents, and it's
Speaker 1: also contributed to lower house prices, and in fact, Canada's
Speaker 1: bank TD Bank, they released a report last month noting
Speaker 1: that Canad's immigration program has cut rents, reduced pressures on
Speaker 1: house prices, reduced pressures on infrastructure, economic and social, and
Speaker 1: it's also stemmed the run up in unemployment after Trump's tariffs,
Speaker 1: and it's also improved per capita growth, So it's been
Speaker 1: a tick in every box. It's also been very popular
Speaker 1: amongst Canadian voters, so I think the collig can learn
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 4: And the left leaning government over there did this with
Speaker 4: courage and conviction. And this is a debate that takes
Speaker 4: courage and conviction because you know, the R word always
Speaker 4: gets thrown up, racism. It's not racis to have discussion
Speaker 4: about this topic. And I mentioned this earlier as well.
Speaker 4: If our leaders are too scared, do you think it's
Speaker 4: time for maybe a population plever site It's been something
Speaker 4: that's been pushed by one nation for years.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, look at Australian voters categorically want low immigration.
Speaker 1: Virtually every opinion poll held since the pandemic and before
Speaker 1: the pandemic showed they want lower immigration. So we should
Speaker 1: let us train the vote on the future population size
Speaker 1: via plever site and these results can then inform the
Speaker 1: government on the size of the immigration program to meet
Speaker 1: that target. But of course the chances that's happening that
Speaker 1: each is pretty minimal because our governing elite wants high
Speaker 1: immigration even though the Australian voter has shown through multiple
Speaker 1: opinion polls that they don't support it.
Speaker 4: And just based on the current trajectory with labor, I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously migration suits labor politically, it's propping up this Ponzi
Speaker 4: scheme economy.
Speaker 3: Where are we heading to? What is the trajectory we're
Speaker 3: on right now under labor, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, it's going to be going to be very high.
Speaker 1: So according to former Deputy Secretary of the Department Immigration
Speaker 1: ab L Rinsby, he reckons that under current immigration set
Speaker 1: ins because they've made a whole bunch of changes to
Speaker 1: student visas which have liberalized it a lot he thinks
Speaker 1: of the new annual normal is going to be three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. Now it was two hundred and twenty thousand
Speaker 1: in the fifteen years leading up to the pandemic. Since
Speaker 1: the pandemic, since the end of twenty nineteen, it's averaged
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy thousand. He thinks the new normals
Speaker 1: about three hundred thousand, which means we're going to have
Speaker 1: huge Australia and it just means a perpetual rental crisis.
Speaker 4: And nobody ever voted for a huge Australia or a
Speaker 4: big Australia. Yet yep, here we are with that sort
Speaker 4: of trajectory. It's frightening. Leith van Onslin, good to see
Speaker 4: you as always, Thanks very much for joining me on
Speaker 4: the show. Coming up after the break, A university vice
Speaker 4: chancellor has resigned weeks after she claimed those who worked
Speaker 4: from home on Monday and Friday we're getting four day
Speaker 4: weekends that are more with my panel.
Speaker 3: Next welcome back.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is New South Wales Independent MP Tanium
Speaker 4: Mahlic informed your South Wales police bit as to David Elliott.
Speaker 4: Happy Friday to both of you. Big week in New
Speaker 4: South Wales.
Speaker 3: David.
Speaker 4: Kelly Sloan's been appointed the New South Wales opposition leader.
Speaker 3: You're still a member of the Liberals.
Speaker 4: What do you make of how the week's unfolded and
Speaker 4: will she make a good leader?
Speaker 15: Well, I think it had to happen. Unfortunately for Market,
Speaker 15: he was just not getting the level of support he had.
Speaker 15: Agitators they're sniping out, and agitators that then cowardly didn't
Speaker 15: turn up to the ballot when it was time to
Speaker 15: actually vote for a new leader. But I think we'll
Speaker 15: see with Kelly a fresh start. She'll need to surround
Speaker 15: herself with the right people and a good team, and
Speaker 15: I think she knows that. And she's going to need
Speaker 15: to review her relationships outside of the Parliament with the
Speaker 15: business community when it comes to workers' compensation, with the
Speaker 15: Conservative voters when it comes to net zero, and of
Speaker 15: course somehow come up with a strategy that will win
Speaker 15: those two seats back.
Speaker 3: Well, she's already said no to net zeros.
Speaker 15: And that's going to be all about the branding and
Speaker 15: she's with the Liberal Party in New South Wales and
Speaker 15: Victoria for that matter. Between rock and a hard place,
Speaker 15: they go with net zero and lose Conservative voters to
Speaker 15: one nation or they dump next net zero and lose
Speaker 15: moderate votes to the Teels. This is a defining moment
Speaker 15: for the Liberal Party. Never before have we seen a
Speaker 15: policy like this which has the potential to break that
Speaker 15: broad Church into two and in many respects, I think
Speaker 15: this is our DLP moment.
Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be interesting to see how it
Speaker 4: plays out. When you're just so at odds Tallia a
Speaker 4: huge week on Macquarie Street. What does Kellie Sloan have
Speaker 4: to do in your view to cut through now to
Speaker 4: voters and also obviously go up against a very popular
Speaker 4: premier in Chris Mints.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Look, I think that what she does need to do,
Speaker 16: and she did say this in her press conference that
Speaker 16: she needs to connect with people in Southwest Sydney, Western
Speaker 16: Sydney and out in regional New South Wales. I think
Speaker 16: the first thing she needs to do is tours many
Speaker 16: clubs and pubs and communities as she can across this
Speaker 16: state in the next two months, before the next before
Speaker 16: the February sittings of Parliament. It's so important that she
Speaker 16: gets to meet people and she can argue that she's
Speaker 16: been to every electorate in their state and get to
Speaker 16: know as many people she possibly can.
Speaker 3: I think she's got a really nice.
Speaker 16: Character about her. I have to say I find look,
Speaker 16: Chrismians can be often Look he's formidable, but he's often
Speaker 16: aloof She's the sort of person that can be very
Speaker 16: friendly when you see her around the corridor, She's always
Speaker 16: cordial friendly. I think a lot of people do like her.
Speaker 16: And and when you think back, she's had a terrific
Speaker 16: media career in the past. A lot of people know
Speaker 16: who she is and she can relate to people. Look,
Speaker 16: the challenges for her, of course, being from Vaucluse, being
Speaker 16: the electorate of eastern suburbs will be a challenge for her.
Speaker 3: But that's why I've said.
Speaker 16: If she can go out to the electorates in Southwest
Speaker 16: and Western Sydney connect with those families. She is a
Speaker 16: family woman a self a mother and wife that does
Speaker 16: connect with people.
Speaker 3: And Look, it's going to be hard.
Speaker 16: She's going to have to differentiate and David's right from
Speaker 16: the from Mark speakman, she's going to have to find
Speaker 16: issues of a difference. Someone should be workers com for sure.
Speaker 16: She's got to support small business operators in that regard,
Speaker 16: not what the so fatherly was have been working with
Speaker 16: the Greens shockingly in this South Wales Parliament not wanting
Speaker 16: to reduce premiums. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: And what does it say to this perceived women woman
Speaker 4: problem in the Liberal Party. You've now got Kelly Sloan,
Speaker 4: her deputy is also a woman.
Speaker 3: Over in Victoria.
Speaker 4: This week a female opposition leader was elected in the
Speaker 4: Northern territory. There's a female Susan Lee across the board.
Speaker 4: How can you say there's a woman women everywhere?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 15: Well, and you look at you know, one of our
Speaker 15: two most successful premiers in the last ten years has
Speaker 15: been Gladys has been a woman, you know. So I
Speaker 15: think I think the people that accuse the Liberal Party
Speaker 15: of having a woman problem are the ones either trying
Speaker 15: to big note themselves or trying to create some sort
Speaker 15: of non existence division. Now, yes, we have had we
Speaker 15: have had problems with male politicians who have said things
Speaker 15: and have acted in policies that haven't had women as
Speaker 15: forefront of their considerations. But if you can't collectively say
Speaker 15: everybody in the Liberal Party has a problem with women,
Speaker 15: I had women chiefs of staff, you know, I served
Speaker 15: with under Gladys. I've served under the a female colonel
Speaker 15: in the army. I mean, this suggestion that we're all
Speaker 15: in the same box is just ludicals.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, the Liberals were considering gender quotas.
Speaker 16: They haven't gone. I agree because Kelly got their own merit.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's what it always should be. Now, this
Speaker 4: story baffled me. The Adelaide University Deputy vice chancellor has
Speaker 4: resigned weeks after she claimed those who worked from home
Speaker 4: on Friday and Monday were getting four day weekends. Paula
Speaker 4: Ward had called for stricter work from home rules to
Speaker 4: be introduced to prevent staff getting four day weekends by
Speaker 4: working remotely on those days. Workers were outraged, describing the
Speaker 4: remarks as disgraceful.
Speaker 3: And now Tanya, she's suddenly resigned.
Speaker 16: She's gone, yeah, look, it just tells you how fragile
Speaker 16: the woke culture really is, particularly in the university climate, where.
Speaker 3: You can't you know. I feel sorry for this woman.
Speaker 16: She actually apologized for a comment, and she still appears
Speaker 16: to has been forced to resign. It just tells you
Speaker 16: what university cultures like. It's horrendous. They're just a bunch
Speaker 16: of socialists. I think she actually made a great point.
Speaker 16: Why are people taking Monday and Fridays off regularly, particularly university.
Speaker 16: They're getting paid there overseas students. You know, no one
Speaker 16: cares about domestic students. You oversee, students are paying for
Speaker 16: their bills and at the same time our taxes. She
Speaker 16: made a terrific point that and right to say that point. Nevertheless,
Speaker 16: she apologized, but it's not good enough for the woke
Speaker 16: warriors at university.
Speaker 3: It never is.
Speaker 4: And I think she made a good point as well,
Speaker 4: what are you doing taking those two days off?
Speaker 15: All the time, every other major employer in the country
Speaker 15: is drawing back on work from home. Every other major
Speaker 15: employer in the country is saying, listen, we have to
Speaker 15: justify the work from home culture.
Speaker 3: We have to review it.
Speaker 15: We want to make sure that it's balanced with productivity.
Speaker 15: And yet it scares me that a CEO at that
Speaker 15: level loses their job for making what is essentially a
Speaker 15: flip and remark about whether or not productivity is there.
Speaker 15: Of Course, everybody should be justifying why they should work
Speaker 15: from home. Of Course, everybody should be justifying why they're
Speaker 15: having Mondays and Fridays off. I mean, I know major
Speaker 15: employees in this town that are all saying, Okay, you
Speaker 15: can work from home one day, but it can't be
Speaker 15: Monday and a camp Friday.
Speaker 3: No, exactly.
Speaker 4: Plus also, the employers are at their discretion to decide
Speaker 4: what's best for them for a company, exactly, David, Let's
Speaker 4: talk about your callus are my favorite segment now every
Speaker 4: week your column in the Daily Telegraph. This week, who
Speaker 4: would you invite to a dinner party heaven or Hell?
Speaker 4: Who's your top pick for a dinner party?
Speaker 15: Well, I've had obviously Winston Churchill there. He's certainly the
Speaker 15: god other of conservative politics. I did forget to put
Speaker 15: in Napoleon Bonaparte. I'd like to hear the dirt on
Speaker 15: him and Josephine and maybe throwing a boarde of hope.
Speaker 15: But I think I think, I think Clei Patriory, you know,
Speaker 15: I'd like to think.
Speaker 3: That patre would be great.
Speaker 15: Well, I'd like to think that she looks like Elizabeth
Speaker 15: Taylor in the ninety six.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 4: That's the only reason why reason why not just Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 16: I think he needed a little bit, a bit of fun.
Speaker 3: I would have had Elvis.
Speaker 16: Oh, yes, yes, Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3: A bit of spice.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Maybe I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I agree, Yeah, I would go with John Lennon.
Speaker 4: I'd throw John Lennon in there. I think John Lennon
Speaker 4: would be fascinating, like l do you.
Speaker 3: I don't mind, but I just think he would be.
Speaker 3: He would be a fascinating man, his guitar everybody. So
Speaker 3: that's what we can ask for.
Speaker 4: David Elliott Toyle, lovely as always to have you.
Speaker 3: Both, Bott, thank you so much for joining me. Covering up.
Speaker 4: After the break, we'll head to the UK and discuss
Speaker 4: the government's plan to pay asylum seekers even more taxpayer
Speaker 4: dollars to persuade them to leave voluntarily.
Speaker 3: That's next. Well.
Speaker 4: The ABC has failed in its duty on many occasions
Speaker 4: to cover stories that matter, opting selectively to choose bias
Speaker 4: over journalistic integrity. One such example is the Giggle Versus
Speaker 4: Tickle appeal, where biological man roxand Tickle argued he had
Speaker 4: injured feelings after being booted out of a female only
Speaker 4: app by founder Sal Grover. The ABC did not even
Speaker 4: bother to cover it. This week, a concession of sorts.
Speaker 4: ABC's Media Watch has criticized the broadcaster for biased reporting
Speaker 4: on the case.
Speaker 14: There are I am sure several reasons for these gaps
Speaker 14: in the ABC's coverage, and I suspect one of them
Speaker 14: is how clamorous the blowback can be reporting this very
Speaker 14: difficult story about a very vulnerable community. But the ABC
Speaker 14: and its journalists have a duty to the public to
Speaker 14: find the courage to do so with just as much
Speaker 14: dispassion as compassion.
Speaker 4: And Johnny me now is Giggle founder Sal Grover, so
Speaker 4: good to catch up. Has the ABC contacted you since
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: Of course they haven't, No, but they did. Unfortunately I
Speaker 6: missed them. We'd had a bit of an email and
Speaker 6: phone tag situation before the Media Watch piece came out,
Speaker 6: so but they wouldn't have published what I was going
Speaker 6: to say anyway, And what I would have said to
Speaker 6: them is that, like many other media organizations around the world,
Speaker 6: such as the BBC, the ABC made a bet that
Speaker 6: women would not fight back against the absolute nonsense that
Speaker 6: is gender ideology and men claiming to be women, and
Speaker 6: the ABC went all in on this ideology. You just
Speaker 6: have to go to their website, to their Instagram. You
Speaker 6: can even look up something called ABC Queer and find
Speaker 6: out how much the ABC is all in on gender ideology.
Speaker 6: But because they didn't anticipate women fighting back like we have,
Speaker 6: they're now finding themselves in a very very uncomfortable situation
Speaker 6: of it being very very clear they have not reported
Speaker 6: on this issue accurately, not only with gigglev Tickle, but
Speaker 6: also with Lesbian Action Group. Lesbian Action Group wants to
Speaker 6: be able to have lesbian only events, which would be
Speaker 6: female only events, and the Australian Rights Commission has said no,
Speaker 6: you have to allow men and claim to be women
Speaker 6: in there, so heterosexual men. ABC's never mentioned it. They're
Speaker 6: not mentioning, honestly, anything to do with kier Lee Smith,
Speaker 6: who is being dragged through courts of ulification for calling
Speaker 6: men men. I mean, these are all things that are
Speaker 6: happening and the ABC has just decided to ignore it.
Speaker 6: And I think we all know why. It's because they
Speaker 6: know that their viewers, they knew the truth, wouldn't support
Speaker 6: gender ideology. To support it, you're only can only hear
Speaker 6: the light, you can't hear the truth of the pushback.
Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, it's in their charter to be impartial
Speaker 4: on all stories. And we're constantly week in week out
Speaker 4: seeing the opposite, and especially when it comes to a
Speaker 4: topic like this. So this week New Zealand band puberty
Speaker 4: blocker scripts. It's prompted the federal Health Minister here, Mark Butler,
Speaker 4: to describe the science underpinning it as contested and evolving.
Speaker 3: But this is a thing that baffled me. Sally, he claimed.
Speaker 4: He's spent quite a lot of time reading and thinking
Speaker 4: about Australia's response. My question would be how much more
Speaker 4: time does he need New Zealand's done it. The judge
Speaker 4: who led Australia's family caught when it gave the green
Speaker 4: light to puberty blockers to children back in twenty thirteen
Speaker 4: says she now has doubts about that ruling. And that's
Speaker 4: only just two examples. And the minister apparently needs time
Speaker 4: to read and think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it should be pretty instinctual that you
Speaker 6: don't give children life altering medication based on an ideology.
Speaker 6: And Australia is just looking increasingly stupid on this issue.
Speaker 6: I mean, we don't like to be humiliated by New Zealand,
Speaker 6: whether it's in rugby or sterilizing children. But here we
Speaker 6: are the UK, s donate, the US, many states in
Speaker 6: the US are doing it. Australia is just hanging on
Speaker 6: for dear life with this ideology, but I think it
Speaker 6: really is catching up. I mean, I would anticipate that
Speaker 6: sometime next year puberty blockers will actually be banned in Australia.
Speaker 6: They just can't get around it now. The evidence is
Speaker 6: out there. It's so compelling, it's undeniable. These do not
Speaker 6: do what their claims do. Like these are children who
Speaker 6: think you can change sex and you can't, and they're
Speaker 6: medicalizing them. And it's evil what has happened, and anybody
Speaker 6: who's been complicit in it actually should be held responsible
Speaker 6: in my opinion, No.
Speaker 3: I completely I agree with you.
Speaker 4: Look, I hope that Australia does follow suit, but anything's
Speaker 4: possible under this labor government. Sard Grover, nice to see
Speaker 4: you as always, Thanks very much for joining me on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. Well. Can you believe this?
Speaker 4: The UK Home Secretary Shabanamah Wood wants to pay asylum
Speaker 4: seekers even more taxpayer dollars to persuade them to leave
Speaker 4: fallen terrily have a listen to this.
Speaker 11: For each asylum seeker in the country, it's thirty thousand
Speaker 11: pounds per individual per year. So there's a big sum
Speaker 11: of money. And if we can persuade people to return
Speaker 11: to their home country with a cash payment, that is
Speaker 11: often better value for the taxpayer. I know it sticks
Speaker 11: in the craw of many people and they don't like it,
Speaker 11: but it is value for money.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is reform UK Counselor Darren Grimes, Darren,
Speaker 4: thanks as always for joining me. Is that seriously Labour's
Speaker 4: solution to immigration?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: It absolutely is Zanika. Look, they won't leave the clutches
Speaker 2: of the European Court, the ECHR, Human Rights quangos and
Speaker 2: all the rest of it. So they're keeping us locked
Speaker 2: in and this is their solution to say to a
Speaker 2: so called asylum seekers, well we'll.
Speaker 3: Pay you to leave.
Speaker 2: Well, actually no, we should just be saying to people
Speaker 2: if you are here illegally, frankly, you ought to go.
Speaker 2: You should never have been allowed to stay in. You
Speaker 2: clog up the so called asylum system, you cost the
Speaker 2: taxpayer an absolute fortune, and then we bribe you to leave.
Speaker 2: Only in Britain, could you a failure to actually police
Speaker 2: your own border be turned into a state sponsored gift voucher?
Speaker 2: And my mood says it's value for money. Who exactly
Speaker 2: is a value for it ain't the British public who
Speaker 2: are increasingly unsafe. It ain't the British taxpayer who are
Speaker 2: funding this madness, and it certainly isn't down to the
Speaker 2: voters who consistently say they want the Australian style of
Speaker 2: border control where actually people are sent back and the
Speaker 2: asylum seeker actually gets a bigger payout than some of
Speaker 2: our pensioners are actually getting. Right now, it's not border policy,
Speaker 2: it's a clearance sale. Right, it's saying everything must go
Speaker 2: and we're going to throw absolutely everything we've got at
Speaker 2: this and we'll pay you to take the exit. We
Speaker 2: are a weak country under this lot. We keep asking
Speaker 2: for control, Danika, but labor are dolen out coupons instead.
Speaker 2: It's absurd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good way to put it. It
Speaker 3: is absurd.
Speaker 4: It is absolutely ridiculous that once again it's all been
Speaker 4: put onto the British taxpayer for Labour's absolute failure to
Speaker 4: control the borders.
Speaker 3: Now Darren an inquiry has found the.
Speaker 4: UK response to COVID was too little, too late and
Speaker 4: led to thousands more deaths in the first way. But
Speaker 4: Darren I mean, there would be many that would actually
Speaker 4: think the opposite here, that the response was too heavy handed.
Speaker 3: So what on earth has this inquiry actually achieved.
Speaker 2: Oh, Danika, this inquiry is a two hundred million pounds
Speaker 2: disgrace in my opinion. You know, it's basically the conclusion.
Speaker 2: I knew if you'd ask me a year ago what
Speaker 2: the conclusion of this inquiry would be, I would have
Speaker 2: told you exactly this, that actually it would be like
Speaker 2: a line for a really dodgy film, a promotion for
Speaker 2: a really dodgy film, in which they say, we ought
Speaker 2: to have gone faster, harder, longer. Right, that's exactly what
Speaker 2: they've concluded two hundred million pounds to tell us that
Speaker 2: we should have locked down even faster, that we should
Speaker 2: have done it even longer, that actually the hurt and
Speaker 2: the pain that was caused by those series of lockdowns
Speaker 2: wasn't enough, and that actually the government should have done
Speaker 2: it even more draconian fashion and natured. To me, it's
Speaker 2: an absurdity. You cannot, I think, in those in that time,
Speaker 2: at that time, you could not have gone any further
Speaker 2: with the response than we did. The likes of Sweden
Speaker 2: didn't do what we did and actually they came out
Speaker 2: of it a lot better. I think the inquiry was
Speaker 2: always going to conclude this. It was always going to
Speaker 2: be a grotesque waste of money and I'm quite frankly
Speaker 2: sickened and appalled by it. The solution was never to
Speaker 2: do what we did. I think I've always thought after
Speaker 2: the first lockdown, I said it was cruel. I said,
Speaker 2: I don't think we should be doing this, and I
Speaker 2: think actually many of us have been vindicated since, with
Speaker 2: even the likes of Piers Morgan, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: was the sort of broadcasting lockdown in chief, you know, broadcaster.
Speaker 2: He actually concluded that maybe he was wrong on some things,
Speaker 2: and I think he was ultimately wrong on many things.
Speaker 2: So Denika, I'm not a fan of this inquiry. I
Speaker 2: think actually it's a complete disservice to the British people,
Speaker 2: but also to any pandemic preparedness for the future, because
Speaker 2: I've got no confidence that they wouldn't do this again.
Speaker 3: And same in Australia.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past them either, exactly the same issue. Now,
Speaker 4: before we let you go, we've got to talk about
Speaker 4: our favorite Megan Markel. She's done this splash with Harper's
Speaker 4: Bazaarre Darren, and it's been revealed that her staff announce
Speaker 4: her before she enters a room, even if there are
Speaker 4: only two guests Darren. So it's like the Duchess has arrived,
Speaker 4: is what said as she enters a room.
Speaker 3: I mean, the vanity knows no bounds.
Speaker 2: Well, Danika, I'd be delighted if they did that. If
Speaker 2: I was sat there and they announced that Megan Markle
Speaker 2: was entering the room, because I'd very quickly leave it. Look, ultimately,
Speaker 2: you know, she thinks that she's the second coming, doesn't
Speaker 2: she of Queen Elizabeth the iid Yet she delivers all
Speaker 2: the gravitas of a rejected sort of Hallmark film, one
Speaker 2: of those really dodgy flicks. But we've got a Christmas
Speaker 2: special where Harry's been wheeled out right like the world's
Speaker 2: most ginger prop. He used to fly those Apashi helicopters.
Speaker 2: Now he's basically an emotional support for Netflix content. It's
Speaker 2: a really depressing state of a decline for two people
Speaker 2: that were once much loved by the British public. In
Speaker 2: the Royal Family's it's very sad. It's theater, it's expensive,
Speaker 2: it's California, it's self help theater, Danika.
Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't pay me to watch that Netflix series.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you that I will not be watching it, Darren.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you will not be watching it either, exactly,
Speaker 4: Darren Grimes, lovely to see you as always. Thanks so
Speaker 4: much for joining me on the show. Good to catch up.
Speaker 4: Coming up after the break. The winners and losers of
Speaker 4: the week, including the Liberals and newest female leader, plus
Speaker 4: claims Miss Universe is rimmed. It's that time of the
Speaker 4: week where we sought the winners from the losers and
Speaker 4: helping me to do that is skinniest contribute on Louise Roberts.
Speaker 3: Great toe. See you again, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 12: Your winner is Kelly Sloan, absolutely hands down the newly
Speaker 12: appointed leader of the New South Wales Liberals. She has
Speaker 12: not put a foot wrong this week at all. She
Speaker 12: got the top job without knifing anyone. I mean, how
Speaker 12: refreshing is that in politics. But also she's focused immediately
Speaker 12: in her press conferences today on the issues that people
Speaker 12: want to know about cost of living, housing, energy and
Speaker 12: as a mum of three teenage boys, she knows the juggle.
Speaker 12: So it's all authentic, and she's not a career politician,
Speaker 12: which I think is really important, and that makes her
Speaker 12: the very person of course labor do not want in
Speaker 12: the seat opposite them.
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with you. She was very on
Speaker 3: point today and very on brand, which I think they need.
Speaker 4: And I think she was a former journalist I think
Speaker 4: should be a very good cut through communicator.
Speaker 3: So it was an orderly leadership ballad. You say that
Speaker 3: happens that way. I agree. No kind of blood letting.
Speaker 3: All blood letting, Yeah, very very continues. I agree.
Speaker 4: Now, my winner this week is Anthony Alberneezi, but not
Speaker 4: for the reasons you might think, for actually showing us
Speaker 4: which dance moves to avoid.
Speaker 3: Have a look. Look, it's it's all too cringe. It's
Speaker 3: all too cringe.
Speaker 4: And don't forget this performance from Bill Shorten a decade ago.
Speaker 4: You remember when he was overseas trying to give dancing
Speaker 4: a crack.
Speaker 3: There. This is what not to do. That's why I'm
Speaker 3: giving him my.
Speaker 12: Winner this week, because you know, don't don't do that,
Speaker 12: just don't do that. It is very cringey to watch.
Speaker 12: There's no kind of fluidity in the moves, you know,
Speaker 12: considering he's such a music fan. You think you've got
Speaker 12: that brute and a bit more slick, but well.
Speaker 3: Is Taylor Swift. He loves Taylor to go the concerts.
Speaker 3: So yeah, don't do that. That would be my Now
Speaker 3: you're a loser.
Speaker 4: This week at two Miss Universe judges who have quit,
Speaker 4: a scandal hit pageant drama.
Speaker 3: What's happened? Would you believe?
Speaker 12: Miss Universe is under a cloud apparently for being a rigged,
Speaker 12: slash corrupted competition. Wow, I know, shocking news. That is
Speaker 12: one or two judges have quit. One in particular has
Speaker 12: made the allegation that the before they get to the
Speaker 12: thirty finalists on stage, they walk out and announce what
Speaker 12: country they're from, et cetera. This is all pre arranged
Speaker 12: and all decided before they even put on the swimsuit
Speaker 12: in the hills.
Speaker 3: So Miss Universe was.
Speaker 12: Never a career path open to me, but to many
Speaker 12: women in certain economies or countries, it is a massive
Speaker 12: global platform and one that they spend a lot of
Speaker 12: money on, working their way up through all the competitions
Speaker 12: to get to the point where they're actually a contestant
Speaker 12: in Miss Universe, and then hoping it will lead to
Speaker 12: a Hollywood career or international modeling career. So if that
Speaker 12: is the case, if it is all fixed and rigged
Speaker 12: before they get on stage, it's very unfair to these
Speaker 12: women who that's their job, is actually working towards getting
Speaker 12: this title.
Speaker 3: So I mean they've worked their whole lives to get there. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: I actually think.
Speaker 4: It would take a lot of effort, like physically, you've
Speaker 4: got to get there. No, So I mean drama, get
Speaker 4: the porn out Miss Universe rigged.
Speaker 3: I had to mention it.
Speaker 11: I was shot.
Speaker 3: I like it too.
Speaker 4: Now, look I had to give my loser this week
Speaker 4: to this insufferable Wicked to Press tour featuring Ariana Grande
Speaker 4: and Cynthia Erevo.
Speaker 17: Have a look at this that continues to grow and
Speaker 17: grow even through this pressed or something's bothering her.
Speaker 3: She's going to be something. I know.
Speaker 17: She's getting the fixing edge. That's the Oh thank you?
Speaker 4: Why there was nothing wrong with the necklace? And look
Speaker 4: this parody sums it up.
Speaker 9: Where are you from Deaton?
Speaker 3: Ohio?
Speaker 10: Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you do.
Speaker 3: I say something wrong? I thought that was perfect.
Speaker 12: They're insufferable, very performative, and it's not really real, and
Speaker 12: that if we think about the age demographic they're aiming
Speaker 12: at for that film and that talent, that they're just
Speaker 12: going to turn off in droves and think it's just
Speaker 12: this fake you know.
Speaker 4: But they're just dramatic, and that they're all over each
Speaker 4: other and they're holding hands and they're crying at the
Speaker 4: drop of the hat. It's all very uh, it's too
Speaker 4: much for I'm not going to go see it.
Speaker 3: Alwis Roberts, have a great weekend. Very much for joining
Speaker 3: me on to see you, but nice to see you.
Speaker 3: That's it for me. I'll be back Sunday at seven
Speaker 3: pm for denekro and James. Steve Price is next for
Speaker 3: Night